gtfo-chat

[spring silo]

True true

[vernal nebula]

Exactly, this is where knife really shines

[visual escarp]

follow-up question, would the bat me AS efficient in said scenario? @vernal nebula

since the charge up is rather quick too

[vernal nebula]

Knife would be a bit more efficient

[junior latch]

no

[high orchid]

if you control aggros not really

[visual escarp]

@junior latch cause you'd need to stagger at least once-twice before getting the full group killed right?

amiwrong?

[vestal geyser]

in most practical cases bat is as quick as knife imo

[junior latch]

it rly depends

[high orchid]

unless they are like kissing, you should be able to kill em 1 at a time

[visual escarp]

^ thats what i thought

[vestal geyser]

not really justifiable to bring a knife just for the extremely small difference in ttk

also bat has high environmental (?) damage when uncharged

like it 1 taps locks

[junior latch]

knife has a higher peak than bat at it by a goood margin

but most players dont rly play like that (see what mit said)

[vestal geyser]

and breaks doors pretty quickly with uncharged taps

[high orchid]

compared to the 2 tap from hammer

[lusty river]

You bring knife because it’s quick, I bring knife because it has a stupid hit box. We are not the same 😏

[vestal geyser]

its satisfying :)

[junior latch]

the 1 tap vs 2 tap of bat vs hammer is a pretty noteable time diff

[visual escarp]

bat also has delayed hit on light-attacks which is very use'able once used to it i suppose just as knife does

i noticed

not on charged attacks sadly

at the end of the day its a preference & situational thing i suppose

thanks anyway for all the information guys ❤️

[wispy bluff]

Happy to force feed people with trivia

[visual escarp]

i'm looking forward to get spoonfed information by a more experienced player while doing some runs in the near future

[spring silo]

You're going to learn about the minutia of GTFO melee weapons whether you like it or not

[junior latch]

insert shameless plug here

[hybrid cloak]

make sure you're yelling at him too

[rare stone]

insert shameful plug here 😎

[junior latch]

the shameless plug isnt me playing

im sadly still busy

fuck bachelor thesis work

[rare stone]

'cuz you're bad? 🤓

[junior latch]

its a plug

for informative content

[rare stone]

not informative if you're wrong 🤓

[spring silo]

time for level guides designed to get the most people killed as possible

[rare stone]

based

"take 4 Burst Pistols, Short Rifles, Auto Sentries and Spears for this mission"

[spring silo]

God tier loadout

[rare stone]

the meta loadout

good alternative would be AR instead of the BP

[abstract goblet]

im playing r2d2 with 2 bots

[stray raft]

Why is assault rifle catching strays

It's a perfectly good weapon

[rare stone]

give them all Sawed Offs, Scatterguns and C-Foam Launchers

[abstract goblet]

what are their preferred loadouts?

bruh are you serious

[rare stone]

perfectly good weapon if you like sucking 🤓

[hybrid cloak]

3 sniper sentries bio or 2 burst 1 sniper bio (tools)

[abstract goblet]

weapon loadouts?

[stray raft]

Nothin wrong with a little sucking every now and again

[hybrid cloak]

machine guns, hel weaponry

[abstract goblet]

bots and players

[rare stone]

nah for real tho, Burst Rifle, Carbine and Double Tap are all good on bots

and for secondary just the Veruta Machinegun

[hybrid cloak]

bots burst rifle veruta mg

[abstract goblet]

veruta okay

double tap for bots?

[junior latch]

@burnt flume you seeing this?

[abstract goblet]

is it more efficient than burst for r2d2?

for bots

[hybrid cloak]

there are better options
AR has been abandoned by the devs

[hybrid cloak]

idk bout double tap but burst rifle is what u want

[rare stone]

Burst Rifle is probably the most efficient weapon you can give bots currently

[junior latch]

just give them burst rifle and veruta honestly

[wispy bluff]

It kinda got overshadow by far superior weapons if used right.
Heavy SMG is pretty much a superior pick with bigger bullets, higher fire rate and even bigger magazine too.

[rare stone]

lots of ammo, good range, good damage

[spring silo]

sawed off is god tier with it's magic bullet

[hybrid cloak]

burst cancel too

[junior latch]

double tap doesnt feel... good unless they somehow 1 burst everyone

[hybrid cloak]

yum

[spring silo]

GTFO's magical weapons

[junior latch]

by perfectly average weapons*

[wispy bluff]

Its not like you're throwing for picking it or anything, its just... Eh.

[rare stone]

but you are 🤓

[abstract goblet]

heavy smg good for bots?

[junior latch]

just give them burst rifle

r2d2 has super long sight lines aswell

[wispy bluff]

Anything that isn't a shotgun is good on bots

[rare stone]

yeah so Sniper

[wispy bluff]

I just give them Double Tap + LMG / BC depending on my mood

[junior latch]

sniper, hel pp, slugshotgun

[rare stone]

Burst Cannon?

44 dmg to you if any of their bullets happen to hit you

[abstract goblet]

how about secondaries? veruta good enough?

[wispy bluff]

Never happened so far, which is amazing.

[junior latch]

veruta yes

[wispy bluff]

I guess i backpedal more than your average vet.

[junior latch]

you wanna take smth to be able to deal with giants on 1 of your 2 players anyway

hel rifle goes hard tbh

[abstract goblet]

aite thanks

[burnt flume]

I'm seeing a perfectly slappable face next to me

[rare stone]

mods, can we doxx this guy?

[modern verge]

mods, send the prisoners into the complex to gather their personal identification

[stray raft]

No need, i already know his details

In fact I'm in the same room as him rn

[rare stone]

mods can we skin this guy

[earnest forge]

I am afraid this would not constitute a valid argument to endorse skinning.

Also, what is AR ? Is there still a single player using this weapon in GTFO ?

[serene jewel]

I hope not

[hybrid cloak]

probably 2 or 3 excluding new players

[rare stone]

okay, what about flaying?

would that be acceptable?

[wispy bluff]

I do, occasionally.

I like the way it sits in my hands.

[earnest forge]

I find using this weapon in a challenging video game punishment enough.

[high orchid]

why use AR when autopistol exist

[rare stone]

but autopistol is actually good

[earnest forge]

Sad, but might be true

[rare stone]

y'all trippin' if you think autopistol is bad

[high orchid]

yeah I know

been using it for a while

[junior latch]

yes so many

[rare stone]

I've only seen 2 people in the past few months use it ironically

[junior latch]

thats a weird comparision

heavy smg is just better AR
but even heavy smg is mid

[hidden path]

I only use AR when I get a damage booster

[rare stone]

just use DMR instead

[high orchid]

yeah but autopistol is funny

[hidden path]

DMR my beloved

[visual escarp]

i can confirm after being one-shotted by dauda holding a scattergun ~ FOR SCIENCE

[quasi pine]

I wish there was a way to tell the bots to pick up two handed items

[rose nova]

well uh on non alarms u can

[lusty river]

Making our way to overload @latent palm

[latent palm]

nice

no ?

azert

[hybrid cloak]

there is
press Q
the objective
and choose a bot

[latent palm]

ur about to see something

thats gonna blow ur mind

[hybrid cloak]

a gift for meeeee?

[quasi pine]

Tried before, they don’t even react to the command

[hybrid cloak]

oh they havent fixed that yet? LMAO

well then u are out of luck

[quasi pine]

😔😔😔😔😔

[rose nova]

when its on a combat state yeah u cant

[hybrid cloak]

u can use a mod but idk if u wanna do that

[visual escarp]

hell revo still one of the top main weaps ?

[hybrid cloak]

yes

[quasi pine]

yea I don’t want to mod the game

[sharp owl]

Which auto pistol the stagger one or the one that looks like an uzi

[hybrid cloak]

bots will only keep fog turbine during combat, but if they drop it they wont pick it up again until the combat is over

[quasi pine]

Oh

[hybrid cloak]

cant imagine its still a thing

[visual escarp]

like i'm pretty settled on the Hell revo since i'm able to hit my shots , but i'm very unsure bout my secondary choice

[quasi pine]

well that’s annoying lol

[hybrid cloak]

revolver works

[rose nova]

the one that says autopistol
machinepistol its mostly dmg, hel autopistol its the stagger one

[visual escarp]

now i just run regu shotty for most runs if one of my tm8's have a revolver

[quasi pine]

I always use the burst rifle as my main weapon

[sharp owl]

I use carbine and precision rifle

[hybrid cloak]

u also can do dmr for main its a nice main

[lusty river]

Yet

[hybrid cloak]

hel rifle/ choke for special works too

[visual escarp]

i'll experiment more with the DMR

[sharp owl]

With dmr at 80% you have like 3 rounds

[visual escarp]

any secondaries to accompany the DMR/Hell Revo? @hybrid cloak

[hybrid cloak]

make do with what u got

[visual escarp]

Wait what now 😮

[hybrid cloak]

hel gun

it has a start up delay but u can get used to it

[visual escarp]

like Hell gun is settled in stone ? :p that reply came in quick

[hybrid cloak]

yeah

you'll enjoy

[visual escarp]

also Dead, doesn't the DMR struggle with ammo?

hence the lim. ammo cap

[hybrid cloak]

nope even if you do 1 hs 1 bs its still a good main

you also can use a main dmg booster which makes it 1 shot all smalls

[tall hawk]

same shots to kill as Hel revolver + the shooter 1 shot head

[visual escarp]

o.O i have to try this

[tall hawk]

also I think the ammo for Dmr and Hel evo are pretty close

[hybrid cloak]

just use it a lil more to develop a feel to it

[signal plaza]

me when hel revolver burst cannon

[hybrid cloak]

15 for dmr 18 for hel rev

[latent palm]

tuho on GTFO chat?

aiint no way

[signal plaza]

OG R4 loadout

[hybrid cloak]

kaiser when is the thing u gon show me

[visual escarp]

does the helgun need to be aimed-in to be working properly?

[tall hawk]

according to wiki Hel revo has 100 max and dmr has 89 max (including mag for both)

[visual escarp]

so if there's at least 10 shooters on the map, its worth taking over the hell revo then?

quick maths

[hybrid cloak]

for precision yes but its hip fire is good

[tall hawk]

but hel revo has 1 pierce so you can hit 2 enemies at once

just take whichever feels better to use

[visual escarp]

mhmh thanks, i'll experiment

[hybrid cloak]

yeah dmr n hel rev are similar u can try both and see what u like the most

hel rev also has insane reload cancel allowing for a permanent uptime

[visual escarp]

the Hel revo feels awesome when quick-scope shooting cause its so fast, i'll have to get used to the scope on DMR

thanks for the info

[hybrid cloak]

[serene jewel]

how much do you need on hel gun to one shot bodyshot again

[hybrid cloak]

2 for smalls

and chargers

[serene jewel]

nah like

damage boost

[hybrid cloak]

ah

[serene jewel]

iirc 30%

or 28

w/e

[hybrid cloak]

yes 30 is a safe spot

[visual escarp]

hel gun feels so weird to use first time on

no one shot and so much time in between

getting rushed is quite something while holding this

[vernal nebula]

It’s quite unorthodox, at least to what I’m used to in FPS games haha

[wispy bluff]

You just funnel waves into tight corridors and spam them

[vernal nebula]

You’ll get the hang of it and start seeing why most value it so highly

[hybrid cloak]

yeah it needs some practice but you'll get there

[quasi pine]

how difficult is R2E1 crib

[vernal nebula]

Hardest level in the game if you’re playing the rundowns in order

[quasi pine]

oh christ

[vernal nebula]

Up to that point of course

[quasi pine]

that is exactly what I’m doing 😭

[vernal nebula]

Same but I’m long past that level now haha, wish you the best there

[quasi pine]

😎

[visual escarp]

is it allowed to share youtube video's here on loadouts?

[wispy bluff]

Probably, just don't spam them

[visual escarp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLG-jxy87_I

^ is this still a thing?

cause the way he uses it kinda looks amazing to be fair

a mobile playstyle, clearing a wave in a matter of seconds

[vernal nebula]

You can still one-hit kill with a headshot

Not familiar at all with the nerfs though

[unreal crystal]

Fire rate got nerfed, that’s abt it

[tranquil crow]

yes, the gun effectively plays the same now. Fire rate down a little, but wouldn't change that situation.

[unreal crystal]

I didn’t watch the clip so idk if it’s nerfed in that

but that’s like the only nerf the gun ever got lmao

[wispy bluff]

They increased the charge time boefre shot

from like 0.1s to 0.2s?

[unreal crystal]

ye

[wispy bluff]

Technically a 50% fire rate nerf but eh

[rare stone]

the stagger one

that also has piercing

it's also great for assisting your teammates (especially if they have precision weapons)

it can hold its own too though

[wispy bluff]

The UZI is the Machine Pistol

Its not a stagger, but damage gun. Insane fire rate and pushes a lot of pain out. Unfortunately horrific damage fall off, spray and recoil make it somewhat problematic to actually use. Great to unload into giants though...

The Stagger one is the HEL Auto Pistol. Looks like a fucked up MP-9 with bright blue sights.

Alternatively it kinda looks like the gun Alyx uses in Half-Life

[sharp owl]

what secondary do you reccomend with it

i like its stagger but its damage is just veyr lacking

[rare stone]

Scattergun

or any weapon that deals beeg damage

[sharp owl]

is it good for maps with error alarms at the very beginning

[wispy bluff]

Anything goes with that thing, depending on your role in a squad

HEL-AP makes you an utility unit who staggers waves for comrades.

[rare stone]

I like taking either Hel Gun or Scattergun with it

[sharp owl]

Hel gun not rifle correct?

[wispy bluff]

Your special choice at this point is just the question of "which type of enemy i want to kill fast and at what range"

[rare stone]

yeah

[sharp owl]

Havent used the Hel gun yet

[wispy bluff]

Can never go wrong with High Cal, Choke Mod, Burst Cannon. Pretty much exceptionally versatile all-rounders.

[sharp owl]

Only the rifle

Ill probably use the burst cannon

[wispy bluff]

YOu can also pick machine gun and become the ultimate crowd controller

Someone else will respec into giant killer

[rare stone]

nah just take Combat Shotgun

if you wanna deal with crowds

[sharp owl]

But I like Hel auto shotty for crowd

[rare stone]

also good weapon

you can take both and decimate hordes lol

[visual escarp]

dont you have to be like in their face with the hell shotty (main) to be affective?

[sharp owl]

Its spread cone allows you to be fairly far

you dont have to be breathing

on them

[serene jewel]

it's annoying when you can't stagger with one shot with hel shotty on nightmares

[rare stone]

Hel Shotty and Combat Shotty is genuinely great against hordes

[sharp owl]

you see the hel auto shotgun isnt meant for single target shooting

so as long as the buckshot is hitting multiple targets

its doing its job right

[visual escarp]

i'd prefer regular shotty over combat shotgun anyday, or scattergun but i'm new at the game so no clue

or choke mod

either tbf

[rare stone]

I would take Combat Shotty over Shotty or Choke

except if I'm solo'ing

[sharp owl]

if its a charger heavy map

hel auto shotty

and any mg

[pine root]

New player doesn’t understand scattergun bingo card

I am 2 more away from bingo

[rare stone]

Scattergun is good against hordes too lol

[visual escarp]

.<

[sharp owl]

Who wants to run no stealth R7E1 with me?

We'll all have a jolly fun time

[quasi pine]

unscatters your gun

[rare stone]

finally

Gun

[sharp owl]

Un chokes your choke mod shotgun

[quasi pine]

👽

[visual escarp]

any secondaries to acompany DMR/Hell revo ? besides Hel gun

[sharp owl]

Hel rifle

[true pilot]

ah yes the „mod shotgun” my favorite

[visual escarp]

.<

[rare stone]

erm... modded shotgun?? mods? 🤓

[quasi pine]

what does artifact heat mean

[sharp owl]

Or Precision rifle

[true pilot]

Machineguns are always a decent choice, especially if you need more wave clear capabilities

[sharp owl]

How well your artifact will buff you

[serene jewel]

(just pick veruta)

[visual escarp]

@quasi pine i might be wrong but i think its the amount of Artifacts aable to find on the map

[true pilot]

that was my joke

[visual escarp]

the more you run a map, the less artifacto's

[rare stone]

oh sorry I didn't get your joke 🤓

flew right over my ginormous head 🤓

[true pilot]

(arbalest is fine too, goddamn arbalest haters)

[quasi pine]

that seems like an odd mechanic considering that newbies like me will be stuck on the same level usually for a while lol

[sharp owl]

Whats the difference

[serene jewel]

no, it's the amount of progress that one artifact generates towards your next booster

[sharp owl]

All i see is one has a drum mag one doesnt

[true pilot]

no i meant that i always used that joke

[serene jewel]

arbalest is worse

especially since the last patch

[true pilot]

=(

[rare stone]

erm... how am I supposed to know?? hello??? 🤓

[sharp owl]

Seriously tho

Any difference besides firerate?

[true pilot]

arbalest is more precise, veruta is more brrrrrrr

[serene jewel]

fire rate, smaller mag, higher damage

longer reload

[quasi pine]

why does the warden not just drop a nuke down the big ass hole in the complex

[serene jewel]

in other words just pick veruta

[sharp owl]

humanity is already wiped out might aswell test how metal these dudes are

[quasi pine]

LOL

[true pilot]

Cause that would do nothing and also it kinda doesnt have any reason to

[true pilot]

lmao

[quasi pine]

I hate rooms that have multiple scouts

[pine root]

The idea is to stop artifact grinding

[true pilot]

both are viable, both will do decent work, so really - preference

[sharp owl]

C Foam launcher

[rare stone]

only meta weapons are viable 🤓

[sharp owl]

Solves all your problems

[pine root]

Correct

[true pilot]

cause im prettty sure i used it on you, you dumbass… cat

[quasi pine]

yeah but I go crazy when I see c foam

[rare stone]

you never used anything on me 🤓

[true pilot]

skill issue

[pine root]

Okay dumbass cat if I see a player have mg locked in slot when they join my e2 normally I just have a bad time

[rare stone]

crowd controllers when they can't control the crowd

[true pilot]

You just yell „stop resisting” and most of them will go away

[rare stone]

do you also yell about them being armed?

[true pilot]

Ofc, they pulled a gun on me!

[quasi pine]

Hackett is my favorite prisoner

[true pilot]

Yes

hackett best boy

[rare stone]

and you're just using your second amendment rights

amen brother

[true pilot]

=)

[lost lynx]

hey Polebix

hows the Pole land?

[true pilot]

Oh god its you

im leaving

[quasi pine]

hi

[lost lynx]

🫃

dont leave cubix

[rare stone]

Cubix nuts

[true pilot]

Our president has a skill issue, so nothing has changed

[lost lynx]

eat the president

[true pilot]

cant stop me

[true pilot]

…good idea ngl

[rare stone]

polish? but my weapon is squeaky clean

[lost lynx]

oh yeah i can

[lost lynx]

define "weapon"

[rare stone]

;)

[lost lynx]

what weapon are we talking about

[visual escarp]

all of em

.<

[rare stone]

obviously the weapon I keep on me at all times

for emergencies

[lost lynx]

i also keep a weapon on me all the time

want to see?

[rare stone]

are you threatening me?

[visual escarp]

prefered ingame FOV?

[pine root]

120!

[lost lynx]

200

[pine root]

179 vertical fov ain’t the worst

[visual escarp]

jokes aside tho

[lost lynx]

idk

i play normal fov

[pine root]

I play on max but you should at least go to 90

but higher fov in this game is just an advantage enables insane shoot rez angles

Besides losing hip firing information

[wispy bluff]

Trust me: they're not joking.

Just watch their clips in #gtfo-media , i don't think anyone around here plays below 90 except me

[pine root]

Higher fov is actually just an advantage in this game

Shoot rez to valuable

[wispy bluff]

Literally don't care

[pine root]

Ok

[wispy bluff]

Either shoot or rez, as founding devs intented

[lost lynx]

just dont do any of them

smh

[pine root]

Just play the game exactly how the devs wanted

In discord lfg

[lost lynx]

Artek on his way to LFG for the pmom achivement

[sharp owl]

any tips for r2c2

and good loadouts for it

[hybrid cloak]

all presidents are the same

[lost lynx]

3 burst sentries or 2 burst sentries and one sniper sentry

machineguns are decent too

[thick temple]

i'm on 70

[kindred mural]

You're trading more peripheral vision for less depth perception

[pine root]

???? Just get good

[quartz cape]

How do I turn my monitor on

[pine root]

Take scissors and cut the wires on the back

[quartz cape]

Ty for the advice

[lost lynx]

eat it

[quartz cape]

Companies need to learn how to make consumer friendly products

[pine root]

^ like the gtfo shit

gtfo cooler is consumer friendly

[quartz cape]

Helps me consume

[kindred mural]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4ZCV1enfVc

[hybrid cloak]

this reminds me of some roblox poop consuming cult

[pine root]

wtf are you doing in your free time

[quartz cape]

Some thoughts are supposed to stay in your head

[kindred mural]

I can tell when my teammates are playing with their FOV way too high up

[hybrid cloak]

telling myself to stop but my resistance is low

[kindred mural]

Dudes missing all their melee swings on giants

[pine root]

???????????? They just don’t know about hit scan melee

the circle becomes smaller when you are gonna hit

[vernal nebula]

Mine deployer can be nice too, there are at least 2 blood doors on that level

[quartz cape]

🤯

[kindred mural]

What circle? I play without crosshairs

[pine root]

🤯

[tall hawk]

Tjoma balls

[pine root]

I can tell my teammates don’t have a crosshair because they miss all their shots

[quartz cape]

Do bots play with the crosshair?

[vernal nebula]

Reminds me of killing floor lmao

[kindred mural]

That's actually the game that got me to stop using crosshairs for good lol

[wraith marsh]

Everyone too pussy to hipfire anyways

[hybrid cloak]

the short frame of the circle becoming small to the message being transmitted to the brain and the brain deciphering the message into ordering the muscle to click then actually clicking

[kindred mural]

Center of the screen is second nature to me now

[pine root]

Just don’t have boomer reactions

[kindred mural]

Now I just get annoyed whenever a game forces crosshairs on me, like get this shit out of my vision, it's in the way!

[quartz cape]

blackwake player spotted

[pine root]

Holy shit if you can feel your nerves moving

[hybrid cloak]

dont think being 48 is gon help me with that

ah well guess its past my prime

[pine root]

Mb

[kindred mural]

Only downside to not having the circle is charging your attacks

I just wait for the click sound that indicates that it's fully charged

[pine root]

And you can’t stealth when you screen is fully black and fogged just with the circle

[hybrid cloak]

btw a mod was updated recently to have an option of crosshair follow recoil anyone tried that yet?

[sharp owl]

guys how to i beat r8d2: slaughter

[pine root]

Secondary?

[burnt flume]

Uh actually your muscle isn't clicking, it's relaxing which lets go of the mouse button

[sharp owl]

just main

[hybrid cloak]

dont pub

[pine root]

Just play it

[wraith marsh]

Shoot nightmares good

[pine root]

What is hard

[kindred mural]

I completed everything with pubs

[sharp owl]

what is hard

extraction

mom sometimes

[tall hawk]

shoot harder

[quartz cape]

Use gooder guns

[pine root]

Extraction just stand in a 4 man daisy chain

They don’t make it to you

[wispy bluff]

Oh look at that, LFG ain't producing results. Heh.

[pine root]

stack mines for snatcher

[hybrid cloak]

i was too caught up in the long response for the long time to react

[wispy bluff]

By any chance you can't like mine-insta-kill mom, right?

[hybrid cloak]

0% chance

[burnt flume]

You can but it's tricky

[pine root]

You can but to hard

[kindred mural]

I play on 59 (90 FOV)

[quartz cape]

devs please fix achievements I don’t want to be here anymore

[kindred mural]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FgJendeyHQ

Average GTFO player

[sharp owl]

what does the command “LIST U E_123” do

[hybrid cloak]

nice channel bruh

[hybrid cloak]

shows important items in a zone

[sharp siren]

Balls

[visual escarp]

U stands for Useable?

[sharp owl]

So I do List U E_"insert zone number"

[hybrid cloak]

yes

[visual escarp]

figured

[sharp owl]

Alright thanks

[hybrid cloak]

umportant

[visual escarp]

Umportant xDDD

[wispy bluff]

Its the ultimate, possibly cut-down form of command to scan for resources

[visual escarp]

i never figured what E_ stands for instead of doing Zone_

[wispy bluff]

the full commands looks like
LIST RESOURCES ZONE_123

[hybrid cloak]

also keys and other stuff that u may need

[visual escarp]

what does E_ stand for in commands then

[nimble abyss]

https://www.twitch.tv/tankillerxbo21army?sr=a

[hybrid cloak]

for zone but what it means idk

[wispy bluff]

But typing hard so they just cut it down to
LIST (commands itself)
U (from RESO[U]RCES)
E (from ZON[E])
_123 (zone number)

personally i just type LIST RES ZONE_123
Its easy to type, and looks cooler

[visual escarp]

aaaaah

[quartz cape]

resoUrces secUrity zonE_

[visual escarp]

i always type List res E_123

just to make it abit faster

[hybrid cloak]

just do u E

its easier n better

[sharp owl]

What are the zones in R2C2 where Ids reside

[visual escarp]

makes sense

List ID

and query them

[sharp owl]

That would take forever

[visual escarp]

should have 3 ID's in some zones

doesnt take to long tbf

[hybrid cloak]

114 116 118 119

[sharp owl]

Thanks

Ill crank out those zones and go to the ones with the most Ids

[hybrid cloak]

they all have 3 each iirc

but you need 7

[sharp owl]

They all have 3 guarnteed?

[hybrid cloak]

yes

[sharp owl]

Oh

Then I dont need to query

[hybrid cloak]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2549656173 use this it has maps of og and ALT

og has all the info
alt only updated layout of the map no info

[sharp owl]

What does ALT mean in front a map

Like remade?

[hybrid cloak]

where stuff are are still the same

[visual escarp]

Alternative

they redid portions of the map

bcuz of outdated stuff

[hybrid cloak]

game originally released 1 rundown at a time and a new one replaced the previous one
ALT is just bringing them back but with a small lore twist

[wispy bluff]

Welp, LFG has failed me, so it appears i'll ahve to do this myself... SOmeone tipped me off to some weird advice here... I'll see if its real.

[hybrid cloak]

r3d1 and sniper if u want it to go smooth

also cfoam is good

[wispy bluff]

There is a cheese.

I shall try that and confirm if its real or not.

[sharp owl]

Wait hold up r2c2 is light work

[hybrid cloak]

ah if u know how it works then go ahead

[sharp owl]

Off spawn loot 3 cards in zone 119

Then loot 3 cards off zone 113

And then go wherever

[visual escarp]

should get first card early in the map

[hybrid cloak]

the zone near where u dropped requires a key

[visual escarp]

to get to 7 before going to last zone

thats how i do it mostly

[kindred mural]

What map you doing?

[sharp owl]

Oh and I was using the none alternate map

[wispy bluff]

flawless pmom kill

[quartz cape]

119 needs a key

[sharp owl]

Nevermind then

[hybrid cloak]

if you melee the error enemies you'll have an easier time

also when u get all 7 IDs a wave of giants spawn

[sharp owl]

yeah tell that to the 2 bots im running with

those dumbasses

[hybrid cloak]

scattergun is good for that

[visual escarp]

,,First Person Innertia'' OFF? or max? in settings

[sharp owl]

sure me and my friend have the brain power to melee

[hybrid cloak]

i have it off

[sharp owl]

so scattergun and pistol sound good then?

[hybrid cloak]

that works

u also can do burst cannon

2 bursts to a giant from the front

[sharp owl]

I tried burst cannon damage is good ammo terrible

[kindred mural]

Haha I remember learning that the hard way when I first started

[rose nova]

id said not off but very low or low

i like the animation but i like, being able to see

with my light

[visual escarp]

yeh i like being able to see more then the animation, especially cause of high FOV

flashlight radius gets so smol

[hybrid cloak]

just turn it off u dont need it

[visual escarp]

^ +1

[hybrid cloak]

this aint escape from tarkov

[sharp owl]

One issue with scattergun its blast cone how can i use it most effeciently

wait for a big old horde and shoot?

[hybrid cloak]

use your primary until u can blast few enemies

short range and the spread is big

[visual escarp]

or close door, gather and open door & go to town if you ask me

cause i do feeel you gotta be very close

[kindred mural]

Put it up a giant's ass and pull the trigger

[visual escarp]

^ +1

[sharp owl]

Yeah but what about their hugeeeeee tongue and tendacy to bitch slap you

[hybrid cloak]

strafe left or right

and for the melee range u get better at judging the more you use it

[sharp owl]

So to recap melee the natural error alarm spawns

use gun on alarms and shit doors

and just find ids

[hybrid cloak]

yes

[serene jewel]

bait out the tongue attack then move in close

[hybrid cloak]

ur priority of looting should be ammo> IDs> meds> tool

[sharp owl]

Yeah too bad the ammo great depression of this map

Played this map twice today failed twice didnt get any ammo bags

[hybrid cloak]

there is more than enough needed tbh

[sharp owl]

biggest issue is prob the fog

[serene jewel]

which map

[sharp owl]

r2c2

[serene jewel]

oh

yeah fuck that map

never have to do it again thankfully

[hybrid cloak]

you basically wanna go in loot asap do alarm and move into the upper zone there is a disinfect station in there

also memorizing the tile layout of that zone will save u lot of trouble

[sharp owl]

should i even bother with the turbine

[serene jewel]

yes

[hybrid cloak]

also where lockers can be so

[kindred mural]

Yes

[hybrid cloak]

yes its important

[serene jewel]

unless you want to do an alarm in fog

[hybrid cloak]

unless u running 3 bots then just ignore

[sharp owl]

I wish that damn thing would work if you just put it down

[serene jewel]

oh you're doing it without a full human team

god help you

[hybrid cloak]

there are fog repellers too in the zone

[sharp owl]

yeah but like what they said above alarm in fog

[sharp owl]

2 humans 2 bots am i cooked?

[high orchid]

what level?

[sharp owl]

r2c2

[serene jewel]

yeah you're fucked

unless you're really good

[quasi pine]

me and my buddy did it with that setup

[hybrid cloak]

you're fine just memorize the zone, loot what you need and do alarm asap thats all

[quasi pine]

it wasn’t too bad but it did take a few attempts

[hybrid cloak]

alternatively rush the alarm and get out of that zone

[kindred mural]

I can help you out

[hybrid cloak]

return later for ids

[sharp owl]

we would of had 3 humans but one of them is a impatient cant take anything seriously moron that refuses to play for the rest of the night if we lose a mission once

[vernal nebula]

That level benefits greatly from your team splitting up to grab resources and IDs

[wispy bluff]

pump action is so shit on R8A2 jesus christ

[vernal nebula]

Typically one on terminal, one defending terminal guy, and two responding to the terminal pings if there’s no fog impeding you

[sharp owl]

How much of GTFO is doable with 2 guys 2 bots

[hybrid cloak]

why would u do that to yourself

[kindred mural]

All of it

[hybrid cloak]

all of it

[sharp owl]

Besides R7e1 from what ive heard 👀

[quasi pine]

give the bot the bio

they ping off of cooldown constantly

[hybrid cloak]

it is doable

[quasi pine]

it’s really nice

[kindred mural]

Nah you can do that one too

[hybrid cloak]

dont worry bout it

[quasi pine]

what is r7e1’s gimmick?

[hybrid cloak]

it also makes people lazy n become bad bio players when 4 stack

[sharp owl]

yeah your right probbaly will never make it to r7e1 lol 🥲

[quasi pine]

I never use the bio anyway I always use mines or a turret

[sharp owl]

immortal tanks

[hybrid cloak]

you get there when u get there now r2c2 awaits 🙏

[sharp owl]

yeah and r2e1

and r2d2

[quasi pine]

wtf

[sharp owl]

which i heard are pains in the ass with bots

[sharp owl]

The map is called CHAOS for a reason after all

[hybrid cloak]

r2e1 will def be a hard one but its doable

[quasi pine]

that sounds miserable

[hybrid cloak]

badly implemented*

[sharp owl]

how is it badly implemented its only 2 killable tanks and a ungodable amount of immortals!

sounds so fun

[quasi pine]

wait there’s several?

[hybrid cloak]

a rushed product in a terrible tileset

[quasi pine]

does that shit not just wake up everything and make stealth impossible??

[sharp owl]

precisely

[hybrid cloak]

it goes away then comes back at the end of the level

[sharp owl]

i cant wait to get to rundown 4

[quasi pine]

oh

[sharp owl]

ive heard you meet a new guy in rundown 4

[quasi pine]

I for one embrace my ai overlord

[hybrid cloak]

r3 too

[sharp owl]

whats so special about r3 if you could say without spoilers

[quasi pine]

it’s the third one

👽

[hybrid cloak]

gameplay wise more objectives n 1 enemy + variant

[sharp owl]

oooo new enemy

[quasi pine]

new enemy? :o

[sharp owl]

so far ive only fought

[hybrid cloak]

assuming you havent seen much of gtfo and you are playing the game in order

[tall hawk]

new enemy got hands

[quasi pine]

is each rundown deeper than the last?

[sharp owl]

scouts sleepers trikers shooters hybrids giants and shadows and chargers

[tall hawk]

not really

[hybrid cloak]

fantastic dont spoil r3 for youurself then

[quasi pine]

it’s different facilities then?

[hybrid cloak]

different holes

[quasi pine]

o

why is all the rebar pointed up anyway

[hybrid cloak]

wym pointed up

[quasi pine]

like something shot up through the facility

[hybrid cloak]

the elevator?

[quasi pine]

the hole

[hybrid cloak]

oh that u can ask in #gtfo-lore

[quasi pine]

o

[high orchid]

eh

[sharp owl]

im fairly certain once i get r2c2 done it should be fairly smooth

every other level in r2 so far me and my friend did in one try

[quasi pine]

it’s not that bad once you get past the heavy fog area

[sharp owl]

besides r2e1

[high orchid]

that won't stay the same

[quasi pine]

what won’t

[hybrid cloak]

how friendly it is

[high orchid]

beating levels first try

[quasi pine]

beating levels first try is mostly the A and B levels

I think

[high orchid]

depends on the level and objectives

some are easier to clear blind than others

[quasi pine]

on a side note I HATE the wall tumors

fuck those things

[high orchid]

yeah those wall scrotums are annoying

[sharp owl]

use your flashlight and make them go away for a minute then come back and forget about them and get infected

[quasi pine]

yes

or if one’s near a terminal you forget about it and then get splooged on while you’re using the terminal

[high orchid]

it's worse when it's within the fog and you have max infect

[quasi pine]

how so

[high orchid]

wall scrotums deal damage

[quasi pine]

I did not realize they did damage

[high orchid]

if you have max infect you are on 1-4 health

[quasi pine]

😭

[wispy bluff]

Cheese didn't work

[high orchid]

and the kit kills you

[quasi pine]

raaaaah

[wispy bluff]

Riiight, you probably need the full proper squad for that kill... Just like the tank.

[high orchid]

what kill?

[sharp owl]

the disinfection kit kills you on full infection?

[high orchid]

infection can't kill you

[sharp owl]

no the bag of disinfectant

you said the kit

[high orchid]

my laptop be shitting itself rn

[wispy bluff]

You can cfoam the spitters

[high orchid]

why would you ever do that

[wispy bluff]

A single blob disables them for like... 3 minutes at least

[sharp owl]

waste of cfoam

[high orchid]

literally

[sharp owl]

you can shoot em tho

[shut vapor]

It's 1 blob

[high orchid]

you never need to deactivate a spitter for that long

[shut vapor]

Alarms

[high orchid]

flashlight

[shut vapor]

If there's one in a particulay annoying spot that you can't afford to look at mid wave

[wispy bluff]

You might need to if its right next to a terminal and you need to ping crap ton of resources

[hybrid cloak]

Get to fastest tank and sniper n take ur time

[wispy bluff]

Rare occasion, but is to consider

[high orchid]

you have 3 teammates yes you can

[wispy bluff]

I already have the tank, did it by accident with some lads.

[hybrid cloak]

Ah nice

[wispy bluff]

That achievement spams logs with messages that it doesn't count if there are bots present

You need proper 4 people

[high orchid]

only ever situation I can think of is if an uplink is in infect fog and the spitter is right next to the terminal

[wispy bluff]

Mother is probably the same

[high orchid]

and when does that happen

[wispy bluff]

Which is horsesh*t, but alright

[shut vapor]

R5b2 sec

[high orchid]

they removed a majority of spitters from that level

[wispy bluff]

Spam R3D1 with pubs and try to cheese through the door or something...

[high orchid]

and never had spitters near a terminal

[wispy bluff]

If only sniper rifle wasn't in a state its in right now....

[shut vapor]

They
Nerfed r5b2 my beloved

[high orchid]

there are no spitters in main iirc

[shut vapor]

Not true

[high orchid]

and the count is reduced

[shut vapor]

Last zone of main has some

Unless they removed from there too

[high orchid]

where?

[shut vapor]

Behind a class 4

Idk zNumbers

[hybrid cloak]

Pretty sure it works with bots 🤔

[wispy bluff]

Did you do it with bots?

[hybrid cloak]

Yeah

[wispy bluff]

Weird

[hybrid cloak]

Also I don't recall a pub where we killed a mom n a tank without taking DMG cuz pubs

[wispy bluff]

I guess the cheese didn't work

[sharp owl]

Errr what is a mom and when should I start worrying about it

[shut vapor]

R3

[sharp owl]

Oh great

[hybrid cloak]

Spoiler alerts

[sharp owl]

It’s fine

But don’t tlel@me what it does

I can infer tho

I’m fine with knowing the names but I don’t want to know what it looks like

[hybrid cloak]

As long as you experience it first hand

[shut vapor]

Looks like a nonstandard sleeper

[high orchid]

ok yeah there are spitters in the literal last zone you enter for main

[sharp owl]

I was imagining a amalgamation of flesh that spits out babies

[hybrid cloak]

Well dont spoil it for yourself

[sharp owl]

Anything Called mom in games is the same thing

Be real

It shoots out baby versions of enemies every damn game

Maybe they should of gave it a more unique name

Like spawn

A lot of things could be called a spasm

Spawn

But mom is too easy

[waxen hazel]

Any update on when the update will release to solve some issues with the game?

[wispy bluff]

month

[hollow quarry]

Not tomorrow

[wispy bluff]

This is kinda unrelated but: what colour are the flies usually?

[sharp owl]

Will new guns every be added

Or do we have our complete arsenal

[wispy bluff]

Its over for big updates

[waxen hazel]

gonna be dissapointed if I dont see a update tomorrow ;w;

[wispy bluff]

Best you get is balance patches that make the guns we already have actually useful

We have like 6 guns that are completely worthless right now

[sharp owl]

Can you tell me them because I don’t want to try out a new weapon and just throw my chances of success down the gutter

[charred ember]

i wonder when they fix the all consuming void glitch

[waxen hazel]

?

[charred ember]

sometime, u randomly get a big void that cover ur screen and it slowly get bigger, it go away eventually so its fine if it stealth, but u can imagine how annoying it is during alarm

#gtfo-media message I screenshot the glitch here

[tranquil crow]

pretty much just short rifle and sniper. Everything else is viable to a degree that it's not detrimental to your success. There's a lot of discussion regarding other weaker guns but it won't make a difference on A-D levels for the most part.

[wispy bluff]

Assault Rifle (too weak)
Heavy Assault Rifle (lack ammo, lame to use - just upgrade to Arbalist)
Bullpup (reload time is a killer)
Slug Shotgun (whole variety of issues)
Short Rifle (the official worst Special Weapon at the moment with the only thing to celebrate being ammo that never runs out)
Sniper Rifle (got hit with a brutal nerf recently - just use the far superior Scattergun)

That's about it. Uh... Pump Action is in a bad spot right now too. Too hard to get value out of, runs out of ammo immediately.

[high orchid]

isn't short rifle good for economy?

[hidden path]

Short Rifle is a bad weapon concept imo, at least in this game

[wispy bluff]

Yeah, and? You have no actual weapon to deal damage with to... Anything really. Maybe on a level that consists EXCLUSIVELY of strikers, and even then...

[tranquil crow]

tbh idk, but it's never an issue. Every level has enough ammo. Economy is better increased by just not missing rather than weapon choice.

[high orchid]

sawed off

[wispy bluff]

Maybe if it had like 20 meters of damage fall off - it could be worth SOMETHING, but for some reason its a short range weapon with... no damage... no stagger... NOTHING... What the actual fuck...

The ONE thing to note about it is that technically has insane fire rate rivaled only by Machine Pistol.
Except its a semi, so prepare to turn your mouse into a combustion engine.

[rough robin]

macro gun

[high orchid]

autoclicker.exe

[wispy bluff]

I'm a firm believer it was supposed to be either a full auto or at least a burst weapon

It even has a stock that is commonly found on burst weapons

[high orchid]

if it was burst wouldn't it just become like another dtr?

[hybrid cloak]

Just add guns

[outer lantern]

dtr but green

[wispy bluff]

It would make a great pair with it, yes. DTR would hit harder but to a long range target, then you swich to short rifle and deliver lighting quick bursts to close range targets.

At that point you technically reinvented Burst Rifle...

A heavier one at that.

Based idea actually, but alas...

[analog flicker]

Sawed off / Scatter gun

Take it or leave it.

[charred ember]

fuck it, triple shotgun loadout

[high orchid]

why would I leave it?

[sharp owl]

Ethical reasons

[high orchid]

im here to turn these creatures into burger meat i dont give any fucks about ethics

[sharp owl]

well

do you like your burger meat with lead inside of it

[hybrid cloak]

What does one need to do for a dual sawed off

[sharp owl]

i can give you a sawed off with 6 shots and slugs

[high orchid]

slug shotgun is ass

[hybrid cloak]

Aight what do I need to suck

[sharp owl]

(high cal special)

[high orchid]

🤮 high cal

just use sawed off revo

[hybrid cloak]

It gets 1 more bullet from refills than it's counter part

[sharp owl]

me when i play a shotgun main and i get 7 bullets per refill

it might be on-par with other guns but god damn it feels so bad

oh cool ammo

oh. 7 kills

[high orchid]

that's where revo comes in

[hybrid cloak]

Making pump a slug instead with increased range is a far better alternative than the current slug

[sharp owl]

hel revo is unethical

[high orchid]

I said revo not hel revo

[quartz cape]

revo 🫵 😂

[sharp owl]

we're talking about main

dummy

[quartz cape]

i love main sectors

[sharp owl]

i am going to r2e1 you

[quartz cape]

ok do it coward

[sharp owl]

i think slug shotgun should get way more ammo per refill

just so it becomes extremely ammo efficient even though its so bad at killing things

so i can run it 24.7

because it's just so bad at killing thigns amirite

[high orchid]

the fact slug has less ammo than sawed off and does less damage is funny ngl

[sharp owl]

its just depressing

you refill your ammo and get 8 shots

like yay that's not even half an alarm wave

on other guns you can headshot or something idk

[high orchid]

can you even kill a giant in 1 clip?

[sharp owl]

yes

21x6

it takes the entire clip

but hey so does sawed off

[hybrid cloak]

Hilarious joke

[hybrid cloak]

Less than a second

[high orchid]

so it takes 50% more ammo than sawed off, has a slower fire rate, and also uses it's entire clip like sawed off

[hybrid cloak]

Slug still needs to pump

[sharp owl]

i know

[hybrid cloak]

Also delay

Funeh

[sharp owl]

can we get much higher

[high orchid]

just corrected

[sharp owl]

it would be such a sick clutch gun with the full 100rpm

pocket clutch gun like pump shotty but it's your main

[quartz cape]

thats sawed off

[sharp owl]

sawed off hipfire:

[quartz cape]

you're thinking of sawed off

[sharp owl]

sawed off reload:

sawed off pellet spread:

[quartz cape]

sawed off hipfire is the same as pump shotty

[sharp owl]

sawed off vs shooters:

[sharp owl]

shush

slander

[hybrid cloak]

He's envisioning

[high orchid]

it's pump as a primary

[sharp owl]

we issue propaganda in this discord server

buff slug shotgun it needs to be good so i can inject that shit in my veins

i love its idea

[vestal crystal]

the only redeeming factor about slug is 1 shotting shooters

[sharp owl]

that's all it has to do

[hybrid cloak]

Wouldn't it be easier for you to modify the shotgun yourself

[sharp owl]

that's its entire purpose

[vestal crystal]

the sight on it is kind of disorienting for me though

[analog flicker]

I unironically have had better pellet rng with sawed off over pump

[quartz cape]

sawed off has fewer, higher damage pellets

not very noticable tho

[analog flicker]

Ye

[high orchid]

doesnt it have a wider spread?

[analog flicker]

Sawed off has been very convenient for my revolver when I've got big threats approaching me closely

[high orchid]

sawed off revo is a perfect combo

[quartz cape]

nope both have cone size and shotgun spread of 2

[high orchid]

wild I always feel like I miss more 1 shots w sawed off than pump

[quartz cape]

missing a pellet or two on sawed off is more punishing than on pump

because it has fewer

[sharp siren]

tjoma balls

[wispy bluff]

i hate R2C2 so fucking much

Where in the fuck is zone 119

there isnt any

117 and 118 are dead ends

[hybrid cloak]

In the beginning

[wispy bluff]

WHAT

what arte you talking about?!

[hybrid cloak]

The key card zone

[wispy bluff]

?!

[hybrid cloak]

R2c2

[wispy bluff]

i have no idea what you mean

i have a guess but i dont like it

[hybrid cloak]

119 is to the left of extraction

[vernal nebula]

Yep, plenty of giants in there

[wispy bluff]

oh my god, i found it

[vernal nebula]

Go get that log 📁

[humble axle]

R1C1 "Recconect" 109775243351587012
https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/1202401248544956586

need 1 more person if possible

[junior latch]

No… pump is fine

the weapon performs pretty well as before. Its a fine B tier gun lol

[hybrid cloak]

You don't think it could use some range buff 🤔

[junior latch]

you do know that 8-9 kills per refill is average for the whole roster. Like even perfectly played DTR and machine pp only go barely above 11

realistically people kill like 6 enemies per refill or smth

[junior latch]

it could take it and not be busted

id prefer for it to get an actual econ buff as its for some reason the lowest non boss killer gun

[sharp owl]

my god r2c2 is such a pain in the ass with bots

[junior latch]

3/2/1 bots?

[sharp owl]

2 bots

its actually cancerous

[wispy bluff]

Just throwing some extra shells its' way could go a long way. As far as ammo going bye-bye it feels on par with HAR, which is... Hard to tolerate.

DPS into giants is not that great either, because you know... Pump action. Quite a limiter on damage output.

[junior latch]

honestly

if you want a chill time

check if 116 has (was it 2 or 3 i donr remember fuck)

anyway if zone 116 has like 1 or less IDs you can skip it which cuts the level time to like half and cuts out the most annoying part there

Shotgun deals with everything in the game decently to well

its a bursty gun

[hybrid cloak]

I feel like sawed off does a better job overall with a big ammo reserve and more range
Haven't seen a single pump in a while

[sharp owl]

its so stupid because the List u e_123 command doesnt pick up ids

[junior latch]

thats a main vs a special

[wispy bluff]

Doesn't help that the game in R8 was set on making sure it can do as little as possible.
And whenever it can do something... Scatter just replaces it completely.

[junior latch]

main competition is more open and usually less specialized. Missing on hel revo is less of a loss than missing say scattergun on bosses

shotguns advantage over sawed off (aside from mag and reload) is prec multi for bosses

[junior latch]

Just do list id e_ ??

Honestly

Artek have you rly played shotgun?

gun is completely viable

and not in the HAR kinda way

[wispy bluff]

They are classified as IDENTIFICATION items, so LIST ID ZONE_123 will pick them up

[junior latch]

like actually a decently good bring

[wispy bluff]

Tried it just today on R8A2

Hit 0 ammo before that first alarm ended

[junior latch]

main/sec

?

[wispy bluff]

All of it went into giants and i still had to kill last one or two with main

[junior latch]

same wouldve happened on like every other non pure wave clear gun (and even then) if you shoot like that ?

especially if you try to burn giants solo

[sharp siren]

mag dump all 380 bullets of smg on inmortal

why smg got so low ammo?

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-think-thinking-gif-4280214517394111861

[wispy bluff]

Ammo always felt limited on it. Always. Just like HAR. Just throw some other... I don't know, 2 extra shells per refill its way? Its either that or slightly increase its effective range, because as the game progressed that kill / effective damage output range is just not desireable anymore. Not with the likes of Scattergun and Burst Cannon around. Poor thing got completely outclassed and is overall just lame to use these days, even more so than it used to
...
I would also accept just buffing damage 35 or something. Blah-blah, don't care for breakpoints - its just to override range limitations with raw power. At least it feels good (and an extra "fuck you" to chargers - good job on dodging that one pellet, idiot)

[sharp owl]

how hard could it be

the gimmick is just 4 guys right

i can just melee them with a knife right

[wispy bluff]

||What's your plan for "surpise: 8 giants!"||

[sharp owl]

surprise burst cannon

idk

[quartz cape]

everything got outclassed by burst cannon and scatter, not just shotgun

[junior latch]

Why would we need to buff a , imo viable and pretty balanced weapon tho

It can definetly take buffs without becoming broken. But it doesnt need it

[sharp owl]

oh another har debate

[junior latch]

No

[sharp owl]

give it less recoil

[junior latch]

Its shotgun

[sharp owl]

give it more yes

it need more yes

[sharp siren]

theres a difference between ""it doesnt feel right to me" vs "the gun its unbalance"" just because you use it wrong does it mean you need to buff it

[high orchid]

that would be like if I said carbine needs a buff bc it feels like shit to me

[sharp owl]

this is exactly why we need to nerf spear

[edgy plover]

???

[sharp owl]

Why does r2d1 have no fog turbines

[hybrid cloak]

Putting cells inside the generator cluster lowers the fog

[sharp owl]

That’s good to know

But too bad there’s no cells in 605

And you have to do a class 4 followed by class 5

Alarm

Back to back

[sharp siren]

🗣️ HELL NAW

[wispy bluff]

I just feel like it fails to deliver any meaningful selling points these days.
I can just pick up High Cal instead, which effectively trades 25% mag size for way better killing ranges for smalls, and just overall better feedback and practicality of application.
Fire rate pretty much the same in my experience, the only meaningful downside here is the inferior hipfire and point blank range engagement. And i think precision?... But that pretty much only comes into play against bosses (the ecosystem of which is currently on fire) and hybrids when you ambush them around the corner.
It being a B-gun just doesn't sit right with me, at all. Gotta push it to A with some small cookie buffs and call it a day.

[wispy bluff]

Because you're supposed to use repellers instead.

[wispy bluff]

Also not true... Except doing one of them later adds another route of attack for sleepers, which is a problem. It is more strategically sound to just brute force them immediately, but not necessary.

[versed crater]

R2d1 felt really hard the first time I tried it and people wanted to stealth rooms in the deep fog. We did 3 attempts and died twice real close to finishing.

I did it again with a new group and we just pulled the deep fog rooms and it felt too easy lol… repellers are really useful though.

[junior latch]

Repellers are more fun and more interestig to use anyway

[wispy bluff]

They are pretty ASMR, yeah... Until you run out of them.

SW_MOAR.mp4

[junior latch]

thats kinda the point for me

you actually have to play around them

fog turbine just encourages slow tedious play patterns

[sharp owl]

Repellers are glow sticks

yeah

ive used repellers to light up dark rooms

[gusty burrow]

I made the guide in ALT R5, so no R6 to recommend, and then R6 came out as ALT and didn't expose players to the story anymore and it was kinda weird to recommend, so I mostly left the guide the same, and just mention R6 as another good option.

What I wouldn't give to have original R6 to recommend..

I only teach ladder foam while playing samdown

mrmountainman the goat for keeping me humble 🙏

[sharp siren]

tjoma ball

[quasi pine]

how long does it usually take to find people for #lfg-beginners