#gtfo-chat

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upper tinsel
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it says error

sharp owl
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if the door says error alarm

upper tinsel
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unless its something carriable / hsu / terminal commands

sharp owl
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you can also check the wiki

upper tinsel
rare stone
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@upper tinsel for some reason it didn't post the image properly

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:/

upper tinsel
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šŸ˜”

rare stone
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R6B1 solo clear tho :)

ripe void
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dude

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is it a p mom

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if its got tumors on tis back

sharp owl
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Mayb

upper tinsel
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pmom has tumors on stomach tho šŸ˜”

ripe void
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dong r4b3 overload rn

upper tinsel
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no pmom in that one, just regular

ripe void
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cant believe i missed scout's head with spear

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i will stick to hammer

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we lost our mission because of that

rare stone
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okay so my Discord in general does not seem to wanna post files

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for some reason

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I'll just post it later, w/e

upper tinsel
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hmm let me check

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thats true

hybrid cloak
half jungle
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so i play R1B1 because i like the mission, but i played it solo without bots and pistols only with burst sentry and boosters, i completed the level sub 1 hour (59:22) collected 12 ids and got the controlled response achievement, yay!

rare stone
rare stone
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which felt like a mistake

spring silo
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That sounds terrible, lmao

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Certainly an achievement though

rare stone
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I couldn't do it with bots 'cuz they have their lights on

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so I just felt like doing both of them

pastel rain
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Im guessing the begginer lfg is for newer players

lost lynx
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not just the game overall

rose nova
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the descriptions says 'For beginners to play with the same, or experienced players to teach others. Any carrying is not allowed.'

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so like it is for newies

sharp owl
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did r8a1 too

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man a levels are so much more chill

lost lynx
sharp owl
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yej

rose nova
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people who post E levels there are just people who, want to get there at all

lost lynx
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when tutorial blindfolded

sharp owl
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probably never

true pilot
sharp owl
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without the commands it MIGHT be possible

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because sentry gun is there

lost lynx
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without commands obviously

sharp owl
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still

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gtfo is a game where u need to aim a gun

true pilot
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i mean

sharp owl
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and we don't have a sledgehammer too

true pilot
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you could prolly melee the error

sharp owl
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eeh

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i mean maybe yes but giants can spawn too

true pilot
true pilot
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well you pray they dont

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easy

sharp owl
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this is the strategy i used for my run yeah

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the funny is that you can just use the bat on the giant but it takes too long

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because of the fog

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you'll lose too much hp and another wave will also spawn

true pilot
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but well you could prolly do lights + error

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without fog

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fog + lights would prolly not be hard too

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or atleast not exceptionally hard

sharp owl
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yeah

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if you have fog then lights dont matter anyway

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because you can't see anything either way

fringe marsh
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any tips when playing frog level? i get fuck so hard with the infection thing when doing bio scan

upper tinsel
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which one?

rose nova
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there several fog levels so

sullen socket
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The frog level obviously

sharp owl
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GUYS

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honestlty

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what the fuck else can i do for my performance

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everything is either off or minimum

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and it's stuttery

latent palm
upper tinsel
sharp owl
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what's that do

upper tinsel
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dx11

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instaed of directx12 it will use 11

sharp owl
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what's it running on as default

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isnt' 12 just better

upper tinsel
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the faster and more stable version, instant fps boost

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nah 12 is way worse and causes lots of performance issues in lots of games

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I got around 30fps boost when switching to 11

sharp owl
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ok

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i am not having fun for the record

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this looks like a ps1 game

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and it doesn't help at all

lost lynx
upper tinsel
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what did you do to make it look like ps1??

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You looking at the sand dunes in sand planet???

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Because those things actually have ps1 graphics (at least used to be in og r6)

lost lynx
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im curious too

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i want to play PS1 GTFO

upper tinsel
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average LowSpecGaming enjoyer

burnt flume
sharp owl
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yeah it was funneh

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high cal doesn't care

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okay uh

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max render frames to 0

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that made the game feel substantially more responsive

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less stuttery

upper tinsel
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well yes less that is = faster response time

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but less frames

sharp owl
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like i care

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a smooth 80 is better than a stuttery 130

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that shouldn't even be a setting

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like

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in r8e2

rose nova
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i mean why not

sharp owl
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i tried hacking a locker

rose nova
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its kinda ur own fault for not checking settings

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thats the first thing u do in all games

sharp owl
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and my game was so stuttery

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i failed and woke up tank

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i've never seen that setting before

lost lynx
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huh

sharp owl
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now im at 90fps and it feels genuinely fine

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before at 120 suffering

untold ravine
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pretty sure that's a pretty common setting a lot of games have

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and setting to 0 isn't always best for everyone, hence an option to adjust based on individual needs

rose nova
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i had it at like 3 if i played vanilla cause i was used to geforces like
delay

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and it also helped me with frames

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... or mayb it was 4 i dont remember

wispy bluff
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The idea seems to be that the game attempts to pre-render frames before it puts it on your screen. Basically you're giving it extra time to render, which gives it some leeway and allows it to have more frames ready, creating a smoother picture.

sharp owl
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but like who would want a less responsible experience

wispy bluff
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And lets be honest here: 1-2 frames of delay is nothing. That's probably 0.01 of a second if not even less.

sharp owl
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this is an action game

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idk

thick temple
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the thing is, elbow, it would generally make the game smoother for others
it's more weird that it was making it more stuttery for you i think

wispy bluff
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I'm playing on 2 pre-renders and i got very used to it. Not experiencing any issues.

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You can't even tell that you're delayed.

untold ravine
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The Max Pre-rendered Frames setting controls the size of the flip queue.

For each frame rendered, the CPU has to create a command buffer - which is then fed to the GPU. The Flip Queue is a queue of such command buffers.

Why a queue? Because sometimes the CPU might not be able to create a command buffer on time (maybe it got interrupted by some OS task ... etc.) the queue would give a buffer of sorts and the GPU can continue to knock out frames - the CPU can then try to "catch back up" to keep the Flip Queue full.

A large queue would buffer against frame rate inconsistencies due to the CPU not being on time but would add latency since the command buffers sent to the GPU process are "old" vs what is being simulated by the game.

A small queue would have low latency but if the CPU fails to keep up, the GPU won't have anything to process and will idle until the command buffer arrives (late) resulting in stutter.

You can use a lower queue if your CPU is good and the game isn't too demanding on the CPU

rose nova
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this is a thing that happen

sharp owl
rose nova
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it is just like the middle part so it looks good but runs well

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there u go

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and then the pro master race pc people just put everything to super HD

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and u shoulve kmdkm

sharp owl
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I'm butthurt because i can't run this game at big graphics and big fps with a new pc

untold ravine
sharp owl
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inconsistencies in frametime are very

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noticable even if the times themselves are small

untold ravine
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no no not discounting that at all

sharp owl
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:I

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before this game planetside 2 was my main

serene jewel
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can someone remind me what R8E2 was like

sharp owl
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which is also just a completely unoptimized mess

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and it feels like i cant' escape it

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not trying to trash talk the game btw

lost lynx
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you are about to get hanged

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be careful

serene jewel
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oh shit I remember

untold ravine
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The rendering engine for GTFO is actually really well optimized for what it is. Like when you consider all the tasks that need to happen to render a single frame, which only has 16 MS to do that, and the rendering engine has its own overhead that you can't get rid of just for it being there to manage the rendering tasks, then you have all the tasks that need to run.

But of course there's a lot more that can be done to make it even more optimized. If you are interested, here's a nice article about the City Skylines 2 performance issues breaking things down: https://blog.paavo.me/cities-skylines-2-performance/

serene jewel
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were there performance issues related to snatchers

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sometimes my game freezes momentarily when it grabs someone

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it doesn't seem consistent

sharp owl
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it needs to be better

ripe void
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slendi once said

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fuck you!!!

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and fucked all sleepers around the world

blissful dome
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Yo slendi tf

lost lynx
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thats something Slendi would say for sure

ripe void
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i know

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||hes the most innocent being ever||

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@rose nova :3 šŸ˜»

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how can i kill him

rose nova
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i mean dont kill me pls

rare stone
latent palm
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League of legends

lethal viper
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have anyone tried solo all R1 before?

blissful dome
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Yes

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The entire game

lethal viper
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is that possible?

blissful dome
blissful dome
latent palm
blissful dome
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:3

latent palm
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Minor spelling mistake

blissful dome
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What?

thick temple
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no spelling mistake

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the levels are cheeks

blissful dome
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Yea

lethal viper
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okay got guts now

lost lynx
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the entire game

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unless you cheese

blissful dome
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R1

lethal viper
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I just need to get some clothes from R1

lost lynx
# blissful dome R1

you said "the entire game"
then he said "is that possible?"
implying he was asking if soloing the entire game was possible

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šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

blissful dome
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Eh

lethal viper
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yea ur right

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I thought me meant solo the entire game

blissful dome
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Well

lost lynx
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you can solo R1
but dont do it if you are new

blissful dome
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It's possibleā„¢ļø

lost lynx
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at least play with bots

rare stone
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idk if solo'ing ||R8E2|| is possible

wicked solstice
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Tnenpi is trying it i think

lost lynx
wicked solstice
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Heā€™s soloed every other level

rare stone
wicked solstice
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Heā€™ll probably find a way

wicked solstice
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OG R6C3/D3, some other levels, he did duo before solo

junior latch
wicked solstice
lethal viper
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at least I knew it is possible

junior latch
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oh obviously

lethal viper
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I just want to grind the hell out of my mind

wicked solstice
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He avoided cheese as much as he could

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The exploity ones were R7E1, R4E1, and what else?

junior latch
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i think the hardest ive solod are like r6d2 (main only) and r3d1?

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r6cx (dx)

lethal viper
wicked solstice
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Ah ok

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He capped for those, no?

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Oh also technically R7D1 i guess

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Because he did that before they fixed it

hybrid cloak
wicked solstice
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itā€™s like 19 but yeah

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Iirc

lethal viper
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aight, thank you for all the information

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luv yall

wicked solstice
hybrid cloak
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13

junior latch
hybrid cloak
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With 4 min interval

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Total of 53 mins

junior latch
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r7d1 is just a big waiting simulator with long kiting

wicked solstice
lethal viper
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I remembered the first time Ive been drafted to somewhere R7 R8, where 2 hardass players sneak the way out bunch of giants, do the silence bioscan blabla and dead

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at that time I realized, the game is no joke Sweating

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but It's fun for my mental

blissful dome
shut vapor
rare stone
blissful dome
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Ah

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Lmaoooo

rare stone
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they lose their A.I. after a while

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and just stare at you

blissful dome
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Massive

sharp owl
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this continues to be strange

wispy bluff
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Is it me or R8A1 has 0 artifacts

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I've beaten it like 4 times in a row and i haven't seen ONE

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Big brain move by devs knowing that people will spam it for the achievement, so might as well?

wicked solstice
sharp owl
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drop height>?

wispy bluff
sharp owl
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how deep do it be

wispy bluff
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100.000m

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R8A1 is like 1200

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Ironically one of the deepest levels in the game

sharp owl
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oh wow

wispy bluff
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Only ~83 clears for the achievement

sharp owl
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an a tier level which is almost as deep as r7e1 in a game where depth correlates with danger

untold ravine
wicked solstice
wicked solstice
oblique cliff
wicked solstice
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Tbf 984 meters is the most dangerous area

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Thatā€™s like around KDS deep

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Depth loosely correlates to danger

sharp owl
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depending on area

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because like

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ive wondered this too

hybrid cloak
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Isn't r4e1 1.4km deep

wispy bluff
wicked solstice
sharp owl
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yeah

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its 1371 or something

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oh r4

wicked solstice
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Itā€™s like, right over 1k

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I think itā€™s 1,004

sharp owl
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do we drop from the same place in every expedition

hybrid cloak
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Is there a wiki command to pull up lvl stats

wispy bluff
wicked solstice
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No idea

untold ravine
wispy bluff
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Ironically my heat is still 100% despite 5 clears in a row because NO CANDY

wicked solstice
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Ah ok

thick temple
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can that achievement thing be confirmed or denied

untold ravine
thick temple
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also that'd be another thing that would be nice to have as an int progress achievement, or whatever you'd call it
with a progress bar

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but it's a hidden one so i guess it doesn't matter

sharp owl
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is every rundown the same hole

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at different depths

wicked solstice
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yeah it is

wispy bluff
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Yes.

sharp owl
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how did we even like get the

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contraption

wispy bluff
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Have you not paid attention to main menu?

sharp owl
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no

modern coral
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I don't think we know.

wispy bluff
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All rundown are holes

wicked solstice
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I believe it is

sharp owl
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but maybe they are different holes

wicked solstice
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Or maybe not, idk

sharp owl
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there are several death beams

wicked solstice
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true

modern coral
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We know there are at minimum two holes, but there may be any number total.

wispy bluff
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They are, they are different size and all

modern coral
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Two holes with infrastructure*

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We know there's a lot of holes.

sharp owl
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thing is

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it was clearly built after the death laser

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and how

wicked solstice
sharp owl
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exactly

modern coral
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The death laser is very old compared to some of the logs we have.

wicked solstice
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i love the death laser

sharp owl
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but how do you

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construct

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after the death laser

wicked solstice
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hard labor

sharp owl
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after the sleepers

wicked solstice
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gun

sharp owl
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utiliting who

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they all died

wicked solstice
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idk man, probably the prisoners lmao

sharp owl
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speaking of which where did all the protein come from

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we do not have enough people for allat

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island sized biomass blobs

quaint mesa
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what are the other new commands besides the light testing one?

wicked solstice
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Considering we have at least 10 different Woodā€™s and Hacketā€™s, Iā€™d say thereā€™s enough

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Alternate dimensional kraken says hello

sharp owl
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threat_level_m - error
ventillation_override - Lung cancer

wicked solstice
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What is the error btw?

sharp owl
wicked solstice
sharp owl
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i have played r8

wicked solstice
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Yeah

sharp owl
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not c2 to e2

wicked solstice
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There are prisoner corpses scattered all over A1-E1

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You mightā€™ve missed most of them

sharp owl
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i have

wicked solstice
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Definitely saw the ones in D1

sharp owl
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but counterpoint

hybrid cloak
sharp owl
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you know how the multiverses are doing the griddy and converging

wicked solstice
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We had at least 10 dimensions collide, thereā€™s a lot of biomass in those dimensions

sharp owl
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all those protein bars came around at r8

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how do you explain the continents of flesh before r8

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like someone needs to count how many sleepers we kill throughout the game

wicked solstice
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i mean it is a massive facility

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There is no shot we kill more sleepers than the total population of Garganta

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Not by a LONG shot

sharp owl
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if you put every human ontop of each other we fill like 1% of the grand canyon

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and there's like entire massive ceilings full of flesh

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like how many employees, 10.000?

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that's still not enough for all the ceilings and stuff

wicked solstice
wicked solstice
sharp owl
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i think that's too much

sharp owl
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you need protein to grow it out of

wispy bluff
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Inner

sharp owl
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inner?

wicked solstice
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The inner yeah

sharp owl
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no?

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why would the inner have

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just a mountain of flesh

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it was a spaceship

wicked solstice
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Because itā€™s a massive alien meteorite

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KSO count is 32k

sharp owl
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excusem

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WE HAVE 32 THOUSAND KSOS?!

wicked solstice
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According to frosty

sharp owl
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that is so many

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ksos are security

junior latch
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question is if thats the global amoun

sharp owl
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so you have like 10x the employees vs the security

hybrid cloak
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Also engineers and what not

junior latch
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or just in the complex area

sharp owl
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it better be like wtf

shut vapor
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The complex is massive

sharp owl
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garganta is currently housing the entire continental united states

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like wtf

junior latch
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what?

shut vapor
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80k employees would be a reasonable size work force if I had to estimate

sharp owl
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i'm saying it has way too many people apparently given the amount of security

wicked solstice
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It is massive

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And frosty said 24k are in HSUā€™s in KDS deep

shut vapor
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google has 200k employees, Amazon 1.5 mil

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300k would be more than reasonable for a huge ass complex

junior latch
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thats kind of a city

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but not too unrealistic

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like theres a science insitution that has like 5k people working at it and thats just 1 layer above ground and very very minor globally

shut vapor
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Garganta is basically a city. They have most of the basic expectations

rustic halo
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Oh, fantastic, they added a groundbreaking change: NOW YOU CAN TURN OFF THE LIGHTS! They definitely deserve an extra-long vacation for that amazing feat, right, my dearest devs? Meanwhile, we'll keep waiting for those much-needed improvements and fixes for crucial errors. šŸ˜’šŸŽ® #Priorities

rose nova
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... wno que cojones

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has puesto un hashtag sere gilipollas yo tambien lol

lost lynx
rose nova
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:3 yay

lost lynx
untold ravine
hybrid cloak
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How dare you not multi task and work overtime

lost lynx
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smh

untold ravine
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Trick question, I already work overtime

lost lynx
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šŸ˜±

sharp owl
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this is one of those things

rose nova
hybrid cloak
sharp owl
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if 1 problem exists you cannot do anything except work on the problem, or you're bad

lost lynx
rose nova
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rn :3

lost lynx
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spray spray spray

sharp owl
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so wait if you're working overtime, we're gonna get another update at some point

rose nova
untold ravine
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Creating the secret commands has actually given us some insight / learning being able to explore and try things and see if certain tech actually works or not or that there's limitations that lead to stuff breaking in ways we didn't intend

untold ravine
rose nova
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i wonder
if these commands work on every mission do the missions have to load slightly longer from having to prepare the fog or the light effects or is it somethin the game just renders as it happens?

sharp owl
untold ravine
sharp owl
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there is hope for assault rifle

hybrid cloak
rose nova
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oke oke

lost lynx
lost lynx
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spray spray

rose nova
rose nova
sharp owl
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it's been like this for so long that noone cares

rose nova
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and the snippy

sharp owl
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the snipe fire is still lit

untold ravine
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Gotta nerf the sniper even more..

sharp owl
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yes please

lost lynx
rose nova
lost lynx
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we need more nerf

sharp owl
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can you make it fracture my shoulder next

hybrid cloak
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Ar just doing its thing.... collecting dust

sharp owl
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i want a reverse compensator

rose nova
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the assault rifle was perfectly good and fine

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until it was not ksmdkm

sharp owl
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i want it to deal 10% damage to me per shot

lost lynx
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a bolt action sniper with auto sentry damage

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šŸ™

rose nova
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uh

sharp owl
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it's a bit sad we don't get to use a bolt action

untold ravine
sharp owl
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is this den of wolves

rose nova
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smh dev rights posting images

lost lynx
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šŸ™

untold ravine
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Dude I have like 4000 hours no joke

lost lynx
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bruh

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thats a lot

sharp owl
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i really wanna use assault rifle as a main

lost lynx
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im sure you are dead inside by now

sharp owl
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it's so comfy

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but smgs exist

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it even has the good flashlight

hybrid cloak
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AR will remain underused

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šŸ™

sharp owl
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make it comfier

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more mag size

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better reload

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turn brain off

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weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

hybrid cloak
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Main DMG boosters

burnt flume
lost lynx
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same

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i regret

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everything

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and i still keep playing

burnt flume
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I haven't played in ages because the game sucks and bungie couldn't give 2 shits if you're dedicated player

sharp owl
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my biggest regret is playing 2000 hours worth of planetside 2 and giving myself a pablobian response to anxiety

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and also paranoia

rose nova
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and uh

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sniper mah

rare stone
rose nova
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maybs like 7

rare stone
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at least 2

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I think

rose nova
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more than 30 mins for sure

lost lynx
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15 minutes

rare stone
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surely 4 seconds minimum

untold ravine
lost lynx
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titan mains

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ugh

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i have skill issue so i must be rude to all titans

gaunt lichen
untold ravine
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I was warlock main in d1, then titan in d2

burnt flume
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wait I can't post images in this chat

rare stone
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I'm a baller main

burnt flume
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my dignity is saved

rare stone
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what dignity?

burnt flume
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the dignity from not having to share my d2 hours

lost lynx
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man

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thank god i lost my old D2 account

rare stone
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I am thankful that I stopped playing StarCraft 2 a couple years ago

untold ravine
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Ahh here we go, my d1 account, not counting all the half a dozen characters I deleted for charity events

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lost lynx
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2827 hours damn

lusty river
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I think he likes Destiny Idk

sharp owl
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do i post my 4th video in media in one day or do i wait 1-2 days as to not appear mentally ill

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i had a pretty great clip with slug shotty

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i don't think it's actually bad to be honest

hidden surge
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Anyone know of a mod for more than 4 ppl to play the game?

rose nova
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think theres none since 4+ people breaks the game too much cause of limitations

hidden surge
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Ahh gotcha thanks.

lusty river
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5th player is Schaeffer šŸ˜±

sharp owl
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he is in like every level isn't he

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vent noises everywhere

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also

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i straight up think that the slug shotgun feels bad because it doesn't pump

rose nova
sharp owl
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pump shotgun shoots slow as well but because something is happening with the weapon you don't feel it

charred ember
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I feel like choke mod and hel rifle shred giants

rose nova
#

i mean pump shottie has a respectable rate of fire

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for a pump

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its like faster than highcal cause of the super low recoil

rose nova
sharp owl
#

ah no it is actually slower by a bunch

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100rpm vs 80rpm for slug shottie

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that's quite sad

rose nova
#

yeah slug shottie its slow but i dont think its pump shottie levels of slow
its slowe and the lower dmg and even range just

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welp

sharp owl
#

but like

rose nova
#

but yeah it having an animation

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would probs like

sharp owl
#

in a small room

rose nova
#

help

sharp owl
#

this thing is genuinely good

rose nova
#

and if they are shooters

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line up headshots

sharp owl
#

you headshot them

worthy flicker
#

My issue with slug shotty is that it feels like a worse HCP in the main slot

burnt flume
#

yeah my problem with slug shotgun, despite not having used it much, is that it doesn't do very well for staggering enemies

sharp owl
#

well yes because mains are worse

rose nova
burnt flume
#

and requiring a headshot to kill stuff doesn't help, sawed off has tremendous damage and pretty good range with good firerate to compensate

rose nova
#

also for giants slug shottie its basically worthless its 21 dmg so all ur mag very slowly

charred ember
#

i think i pissed off a room full of Giants

worthy flicker
#

I mean yeah, but the slug shotty just doesn't feel good to bring

rose nova
charred ember
#

like 8 of them or something

worthy flicker
rose nova
worthy flicker
#

Concurred

charred ember
#

i managed to kill all of em with choke mod burst sentry

worthy flicker
#

I tried to use it a lot when I first started out and it just doesn't feel great

charred ember
#

but no more ammo thou

worthy flicker
#

Love my slug shotguns

sharp owl
#

it needs like a bit more oomph and then it's gonna be fantastic

rose nova
sharp owl
#

check out media

rose nova
#

no, spoils

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link me whatev u want

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lol

worthy flicker
#

Prefer combat tho for the special slot

rose nova
#

i mean fair
been a while since i used combat cause all the levels are only bigs or lot of range

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lmao

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but maybs i find the way

worthy flicker
#

I've heard once you hit R7 stuff gets really, really open

sharp owl
#

it has great uptime

charred ember
#

usually if im on a level that i have no idea about, im using DMR and Hel Rifle

worthy flicker
#

I've been swapping back and forth between DMR and DTR a lot lately

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Combat Shotgun if someone else has HCP

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Maybe choke mod

charred ember
#

i tried double tap its uh...i dont like the crosshair

sharp owl
#

@sharp owl i am sorry

worthy flicker
#

I feel that way about the DMR scope lmao

sharp owl
rose nova
worthy flicker
#

Yeah, open as in rooms

charred ember
#

both run out of ammo pretty fast thou

worthy flicker
#

Disagree tbh

charred ember
#

usually fall back to my Hel Rifle

worthy flicker
#

I almost never run out of ammo for DTR or DMR

rose nova
#

depends on how much u shoot at enemies or use specials

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i dont feel like i run out of ammo

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but cause i take mg or somethin to balance the dmr precisions

sharp owl
#

that's another thing too

charred ember
#

oh yeah thats my big problem

sharp owl
#

slug shotgun gets 7.5 shots per refill

charred ember
#

DMR 0%
Hel Rifle 90%

sharp owl
#

which is like on-par but it feels so low

worthy flicker
#

I run DTR/DMR with HCP and I generally feel more then fine on ammo ngl

#

DTR/DMR for more range, HCP when more then 1 gets close

rose nova
#

and still useful for bigs

worthy flicker
#

Can generally keep em hovering around the same percentage of ammo

rose nova
#

weird hcp and dmr feels like it would eat the ammo on a class IV if ur the one mostly defending

charred ember
#

u mean like a normal pump shotgun?

rose nova
charred ember
#

I do use that from time to time but im not comfortable being close to Giant

worthy flicker
#

Just hit heads

rose nova
#

just feels like dmr and hel rifle would leave u no breathing room as soon as u get like a close enemy

rose nova
#

at all

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on anything

worthy flicker
#

You do with DTR and DMR tho, so I keep doing it with HCP to keep the practice up

charred ember
#

i can hit things close with DMR and hipfire with Hel Rifle

worthy flicker
#

It's easy and stylish

rose nova
rose nova
worthy flicker
#

It's not hard to hit HS in this unless it's a hybrid in its funny stagger animation

charred ember
#

thou yeah u right if im out in the open, it really hard to hit enemy with DMR if they start to surround

worthy flicker
#

DMR/DTR with Combat Shotty is mega consistent for me too

charred ember
#

its hard to hit thing that doesn't move in the straight line

worthy flicker
#

They're really predictable tbh

rose nova
worthy flicker
#

They're not like, zig zagging

worthy flicker
charred ember
#

i cant predict them especially in the dark and dense too

rose nova
worthy flicker
rose nova
#

strat its just lettin em run to u again

charred ember
#

oh i usually solo

rose nova
#

a

charred ember
#

and i bring burst or a cfoam

rose nova
#

well thats different strats

#

i would not go dmr hel rifle on anything but thats cause me skill issue mayb

worthy flicker
#

I wouldn't go DMR/Hel pure solo tbh

charred ember
rose nova
#

yeah i would go more combat shottie or mg just for normal waves, depends on the level

#

yeah its just so tile dependant

charred ember
#

dmr/hel is bad on some map

worthy flicker
#

They just fill the same niche in my mind

charred ember
#

but its pretty decent if u get long corridor, which seem like alot of map does has

rose nova
charred ember
#

or some catwalk

rose nova
#

its a small taker on long distances

worthy flicker
#

Especially against more then 1 dude

charred ember
#

i never use my dmr on giant it feel like wasting ammo

worthy flicker
#

It's aight if you hit limbs

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I wouldn't like, force it tho

charred ember
#

i save my hel rifle for that occasion

worthy flicker
#

So

#

Why not scattergun?

rose nova
#

yeah i mean dmr for bigs only for ammo balance

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nd thats it

charred ember
#

which some time eff me over cuz theres less giants on some map and i didnt use my hel rifle at all lol

#

thou still use Hel to snipe those annoying shooter

worthy flicker
#

If you're using the DMR for things that aren't huge targets, why not scattergun to wipe the huge targets off this plane of existence?

rose nova
#

i usually go auto on primary for the stagger and for bodyshots in case i get overwhelmed and on special depends on bigs or not but its usually either mg or just shotgun

rose nova
#

just in case

charred ember
#

saving ammo is good

#

also like i said, i dont use scatter much cuz i dont like to get close and personal with giants, unless i wanna stealth kill em

rose nova
#

i mean depending on alarm or stealth tbh its really not hard to just run in

#

its a oneshot

#

an it serves for smalls pretty ok too

worthy flicker
#

It'll kill multiple in a shot iirc

rose nova
#

on a wave probs

worthy flicker
#

Madres in one

#

Or two?

#

Either way it's so fast you won't notice em lmao

charred ember
#

yeah i pissed off like 7 giants or something on r5b2

#

i managed to kill em with Choke mod

rose nova
#

what is r5b2... oh yeah datacenter level i think glps

#

?

charred ember
#

yeah the canister mission

rose nova
#

i ember i ember

burnt flume
#

glps, spitters, uplinks with spitters, osips in infectious fog

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a pain

rose nova
#

yeh

charred ember
#

theres a room filled with giants that i assume u must stealth thru

#

but i accidentally piss em off

worthy flicker
#

Wonder how much more of R4 I can get done tn

rose nova
#

where are u?

burnt flume
#

r5a3 - go in infectious fog
r5b1 - go in infectious fog
r5b2 - go in infectious fog
r5b3 - go in infectious fog

why does r5 suck

worthy flicker
#

B1 iirc

burnt flume
#

oh you've still got a long ways to go then

charred ember
worthy flicker
#

Went back and helped someone get logs on A1 and A2 after we did secondary and PE on A1/A2/A3

#

So B1 rn

rose nova
rose nova
worthy flicker
#

I'm going for the PEs tho

charred ember
#

yeah infectious fog suck

worthy flicker
#

All my homie hate infectious fog

charred ember
#

i like r6

worthy flicker
#

Haven't done it yet

rose nova
#

i like rundowns
i like this game a lot

worthy flicker
#

I'm playing the game WrongTM and am going through In Order

charred ember
#

r6cx is very funny

burnt flume
#

r4b1 kinda cool mission, r4b2 rather cool mission, r4b3 kinda cool but quite boring, r4c1 is boring but it is what it is, r4c2 is the worlds greatest rpg, r4c3 is a cool one, r4d1 is cool, r4d2 is cool, r4e1 is my baby

rose nova
#

but maybs r4e1 sec will make u reflect

burnt flume
#

there's my unsolicited opinions on the r4 missions you've yet to complete

rose nova
#

since its like top 2 E tier

#

on difficulty

worthy flicker
#

I anticipate R4E1 tbh

rose nova
#

i mean r2e1 its top bottom 2 on difficulty

#

so fun fun

worthy flicker
#

"Top bottom 2"

rose nova
#

like me

modern coral
rose nova
#

bottom

rose nova
#

?

worthy flicker
#

Thanks for the info

rose nova
#

:D

junior latch
rose nova
#

oh

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oops

#

my bad

#

thats fair

charred ember
#

i watch T nenpi alot. I have no idea what he doing sometime

worthy flicker
rose nova
rose nova
#

but ok

#

u be real real person

worthy flicker
#

I was not going for outrage

rose nova
#

idk the first part sounds like u wnated to say a hottake lol

worthy flicker
#

I just know a lot of people seem to develop the opposite opinion

charred ember
#

he opening and closing door, and routing pretty weird during alarms

worthy flicker
#

Like I say "to be honest" a lot

burnt flume
#

r2e1 is a pretty quaint mission

#

it's not bad at all, it's the players that make the mission annoying

charred ember
#

he's manipulating the AI in some hidden way. Its pretty interesting to watch him

burnt flume
#

just like r5d1

worthy flicker
rose nova
#

i wish i had a like standart team to run shit with

#

but my standart people its the bots lol

#

and the rest a miracle if i play

worthy flicker
#

I technically have one, but my standard team doesn't like

#

How do I put this

rose nova
#

u :D

#

ksdmkm j

#

jk

worthy flicker
#

They don't play GTFO in a manner that is conducive to winning

#

And I'm not good enough to solo carry stuff, yet.

rose nova
#

they play for shit n giggles

#

?

worthy flicker
#

Yes and no?

#

They play "to experience the levels and do everything"

#

But they're also stuck on r2c2 rn

burnt flume
#

They are out of alignment with how the game actually plays?

rose nova
#

experience the levels

#

idk

#

tbh sounds like my style of playin

worthy flicker
#

They also all use effectively the same weapons

rose nova
#

oh so they just dont know like strats yet or basic weapon info n stuff
i mean i guess if they dont take ur advice i get it but u can also recommend same thing that they jump to r3 to practice

worthy flicker
#

I am sometimes abrasive so I get how my advice can be bad

junior latch
#

tbf theres a slight difference between using guns they like even if suboptimal

And intentionally using suboptimal stuff to jest

Sadly my friends in my static do both

worthy flicker
#

So, you know I'm a proponent of DTR/HCP, I don't shut up about the guns

rose nova
#

i need to change loadout more often ive noticed i gotten stuck on mg and normal shotgun and i dont take anything else

worthy flicker
#

One of em uses my exact loadout, which is fine ig, but I find doubling up on weapons is bad

burnt flume
worthy flicker
#

Especially when those weapons are DTR/HCP

charred ember
#

probably me, i only know like 5 guns in the game

rose nova
#

ik the rest of the guns but i just dont use em

junior latch
charred ember
#

dmr, pdw, default pistol, high cal and hel rifle is all the gun that im actually know how to use decently

worthy flicker
junior latch
rose nova
#

i mean if u see em using those weapons out of them thinkin they are good, change ur own, i had times where i join a lobby with 3 30 dmg guns so i go somethin else like machinegun

worthy flicker
#

I do

#

I just use whatever primary and CS mostly with them

#

I run bio now and make calls

junior latch
#

honestly 99% of all players shouldnt even touch DTR

#

me included

worthy flicker
#

Been teaching them stuff like C Foam on doors

junior latch
#

its a gun i skill issue on unless im 100% focused

rose nova
junior latch
#

but then just give me anothee gun and i solo hold

worthy flicker
#

So in every game I play I gravitate to HS weapons

#

And the DTR is definitely a HS weapon

#

It's very selfish tho imo

#

I'll definitely admit that

charred ember
rose nova
#

it saved my r8e1 with bots lol

worthy flicker
#

Idk, I want to help them but I also don't want to just go "do this, don't do that, you're doing this wrong do this instead"

charred ember
#

i tried hel shotgun with a team before but i feel like it run out of ammo too fast

#

or becuz its a pub match and no one is giving me ammo

rose nova
#

if u use it on individuals not being close to em mayb
weapons for spammin into waves, and not really takin straglers alone

worthy flicker
#

Which like again, I'm no GTFO God or anything

charred ember
#

ah i see

#

spamming into a wave

#

Like how Hel rifle pen right?

worthy flicker
#

All hel weapons do

rose nova
#

yeah

worthy flicker
#

The hel shotgun sucks against a lone enemy

#

But if 30 strikers are infront of you?

#

Lol, lmao

#

Hel Shotgun massacres

rose nova
#

i mean doesnt suck its a two shot most of the time but its a waste more than anything

worthy flicker
#

Idk, those 2 shots can also 2 shot 8 of em so it feels really weird

blissful dome
#

You can one shot as client

#

So

rose nova
blissful dome
#

That's harder

rose nova
#

at point blank at the head

blissful dome
#

A lot harder

rose nova
#

not really unless ur far away

#

or dont aim

blissful dome
#

Ehh

rose nova
#

but u can get the trick of it

charred ember
#

okay what other weapon that good at wave clearing? i think assault rifle is pretty good

mystic moss
#

assault rifle šŸ˜”

rose nova
#

here it comes

#

oh no

blissful dome
#

How is ar

#

What

wispy bluff
#

HEL PP, HEL Shotgun, HEL Rev.
Maybe DMR?

rose nova
junior latch
charred ember
#

do have ammo problem with AR thou

worthy flicker
wispy bluff
#

That's about all i can think of for main "wave clear", although that's an oxymoron

charred ember
#

ty artek

rose nova
mystic moss
#

dtr is wave clear

rose nova
#

all autos are to burst into the head of enemies as they run to u pretty much

junior latch
worthy flicker
#

Hel Shotgun just feels bad to shoot at anything less then 4 enemies imo

worthy flicker
rose nova
blissful dome
worthy flicker
#

Also, yeah^

#

I want to like slug but I can't find it's redeeming qualities

junior latch
#

hel shotty 2 tapping sits at 8.18 (so 8)

Thats just generally low average

#

also very achievable

charred ember
#

watabout heavy smg?

wispy bluff
#

Direct upgrade to AR

rose nova
#

i like it, pretty good dmg and very low recoil

#

PDW its similar but a bit more recoil and a thermal sight

rare stone
wispy bluff
#

the extra 0.3 dmg conpensate inferior range, it got bigger mag, it fires faster...

worthy flicker
#

Heavy SMG is my favorite SMG personally

junior latch
#

Carbine go brr

wispy bluff
#

Keep forgetting carbine exists

charred ember
#

burst rifle?

wispy bluff
#

Not sure about "wave clear" though

#

Burst Rifle is fine, yeah. ALSO an upgrade to AR.

junior latch
#

carbine rips through stuff

worthy flicker
rose nova
#

burst rifle its carbine but with more range and less rate of fire

rare stone
#

literally one of the best main weapons

rose nova
#

pretty much

rare stone
#

forgets it exists

#

lol

rose nova
#

we all forget but its good

rare stone
worthy flicker
#

I thought carbine was the go to "just works" primary tbh

rare stone
#

it literally is

charred ember
#

I see the bot is pretty good with the burst rifle, so im pretty sure it easy to use right?

wispy bluff
#

I'm anti-meta man, once i claimed something to be meta - i refuse to use it to the point where i just ignore the thing in question as if it doesn't exist

junior latch
rose nova
rare stone
wispy bluff
#

My eyes glass over carbine's icon and i just immediately skip it, don't even give it a thought

rose nova
worthy flicker
rose nova
#

i mean u probs can

junior latch
charred ember
#

nice

#

okay so imma run burst rifle + hel rifle

rare stone
junior latch
#

it does

#

but thats just carbine

rose nova
#

when i say all weapons are very usable i am not jesting, even assault rifle its usable if not a bit below
only really bad guns rn are short rifle n slug shottie but short rifle its funny so it gets a pass

charred ember
#

last time i use the burst cannon. It was a disaster

worthy flicker
#

I love the Burst Cannon ngl

charred ember
#

it so hard to use, im a handicap to the team

thick temple
#

i find it fuckin tragic that AR isn't very good cause it just feels so cozy to me for some reason

worthy flicker
#

So, I really like the stock standard pistol ngl.

rose nova
#

its just overshadowed but its not bad on a team

junior latch
#

everything in this game is viable

#

but that doesnt mean thats a good balance standpoint

rose nova
#

assault rifle was the best gun for bots, just cause of the range and being an auto

junior latch
#

because you need to kill like 3 enemies tops

rare stone
rose nova
worthy flicker
#

It just feels good

rose nova
charred ember
#

also its kinda funny to use bot sometime

wispy bluff
#

I think i low-key like AR, but knowing that its so shit is not helping my self-confidence when presented with near-wipe scenarious.

rose nova
#

they go brr

worthy flicker
#

I'm a sucker for how weapons feel as opposed to how they actually work, personally

charred ember
#

they shoot each other when u leave them alone sometime

worthy flicker
#

I think it's why I find the Hel Shotgun so weird

junior latch
#

hel shotty feels very good once people get over the mental block

charred ember
#

i never forget the first time i give a bot a scatter gun and watch him eat thru my ammo supply

junior latch
#

Also people tend to generally underrate main shotguns

worthy flicker
#

It feels insanely good when you stand in a doorway and kill literally everything infront of you in 14 rounds or less

#

But when you aren't doing that, imo, it doesn't

thick temple
junior latch
#

sawed off was and is still rarely picked pre buff or now. Was already a good weapon

#

hel shotty early on wasnt seen as broken

Now nerfed and its a easy top 3 since always

worthy flicker
#

I've heard it's as good as hel revo, just weirder to use well

junior latch
#

Peaks higher on its usecases

#

but less generally insane

#

aka range, spread and reload speed

charred ember
#

yeah i dont know how to use Hel Revo tbh

junior latch
#

Hit shots

#

pen

#

reload cancel

charred ember
#

ig u spam at a crowd?

junior latch
#

BOOM

#

you do a mix of aiming and pen shooting by lining up 2 guys

worthy flicker
#

Isn't Hel Revo a HS weapon?

junior latch
#

2 shot to kill with hs bs
3 with only bs

#

but more easy to pen

rose nova
junior latch
#

weapon does it both

rose nova
#

but i mean same as other headshot ones

worthy flicker
#

Gotcha

sharp owl
#

how many enemies per regular alarm wave

charred ember
#

hel shotty + high cal is good solo loadout yes?

sharp owl
#

whatever weapons you find fun is a good loadout

#

if you want to be objective then it entirely depends on the mission

rose nova
rose nova
rare stone
#

'cuz I don't have other teammates to fire while I reload

rose nova
#

tbh with hig cal or heavy weapons i go for somethin fast like a carbine or an auto

worthy flicker
#

I like DTR/DMR with HCP but yk me

charred ember
#

so heavy smg + high cal

rare stone
#

Carbine's great for solo

junior latch
fervent elk
#

anyone want to help me with r3b2? I'm stuck with this level for 3 days now

rose nova
rose nova
junior latch
#

plus some player skill/comfort

junior latch
#

Also god

#

Wtf

#

why are there suddenly so many potatoes

rose nova
#

:>

#

u cant escape

worthy flicker
junior latch
#

but why ya stuck on r3b2?

junior latch
worthy flicker
#

Remind me what R3B2 was rq?

rose nova
#

funny fog

rose nova
fervent elk
#

fogs

junior latch
#

Alarm for cell, fog zone. Cell fr alarm, mom intro, alarm into blood door

worthy flicker
fervent elk
#

i hate fog

charred ember
#

my comfort weapon is Hel Rifle ngl.

junior latch
#

take fog repeller

#

Pull rooms

#

dont stealth them

burnt flume
#

do not feel compelled to do the class 5, you can do the class 3 instead and take things slower

junior latch
#

take 2 burst sentries

worthy flicker
charred ember
#

good idea

worthy flicker
#

Thanks, I have those sometimes

charred ember
#

i must tried out new weapon then

burnt flume
#

not another one

#

we don't need another one

rare stone
worthy flicker
fervent elk
#

i have ploblem with taking down mutiple giant striker and not wasting resource

charred ember
#

i do like the heavy smg more thou

blissful dome
worthy flicker
fervent elk
#

LOL

#

i use malatak ar and combat shotgun if i remmember it correctly

rose nova
blissful dome
#

Combat shotty vs giant is uh

#

Uh

#

Eh

junior latch
fervent elk
#

huh

junior latch
#

First room is advised to be killed but not necessary

blissful dome
#

Stealthin