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The difference is negligible
Did you get the key already? If yes and you open 98 youll just get enemies from 3 dir instead of 2
try solo both levels (no bots) and come back later I guess
then tell me what's harder
You can quite litteraly walk to extract solo through the error in r7a1 . No bots or other players
have fun walking to extract in r1a1 without shooting
havent opened the z90 yet
because there is something you are very clearly missing
but still missing 2
So do you in R7A1
u should open 90, if u already did zone 99
aight then
its right on the way tho, and udont need to do two alarms in the same zone unlike r1a1
Diminished aswell iirc ?
yeah
Yeah 90 better that opening both 98 99
all alarms in r7a1 are diminshed i think, r1a1 has straight ones
which are harder to hold
Now the only thing R7A1 is harder on is carrying the objective item but thanks to gigantic large rooms it doesn't really matter
even if 99 is already opened ? 😛
R7A1 is noticeably easier than R1A1 (in the scope of a main A tier)
Also super slow error
Legit only threat is the random giant on extract spawns
R1A1 is like 105 easy and R7A1 is like 110 or 115 easy
The difference is small, but its there
Yes, it's easier to do the last door with enemies only coming from 2 dir than 3
brotherman you're the one who's smoked the entire dispensary here
idk we all agree ur the one not seeing it
brotherman
i mean people here got dozens of hours on both maps
put the levodopa back on the shelf it's not safe to smoke
Can you tell me what punched you in there?
And the last door is only problem of the level
ohhh cuz the extraction has an alarm -_- i see
TY !! 🙂
I was licked too hard or something idk
that was the suprise i didnt know
@halcyon obsidian have you seen solo runs of people sleep walking to extract on r7a1 ?
even like r1a1 i think has more big enemies asleep
Extraction is fine, the problem is the alarm the door has
Had this convo some time ago and was grilled just as much welcome home prisoner
Whole game is ez idk what you're even on about. Ive beaten the whole thing with my feet on the KB/M while using my bound hands to get out of the funny drowning tank.
plus all the alarms being easier
I don't know what to to tell you, man. It genuinely is easier. Its scary, but easier. Gigantic open rooms help a lot.
plus the zones being easier to stealth
You did get the key for last door right?
its 3 zones each with enemies
No, I haven't watched any GTFO related youtube
r7a1 has so much less enemy density cause it has less enemies per zone and they are way bigger rooms
yeah, i have the key for the last door, but still missing 2 decoder.
but r1a1 has one with scout
Generally higher density
and worse lighting
two scouts
I'm sure if you watch a solo speedrun of both levels you'll see that there's more to contend with in r1a1
You all also forget the HSU room trap
Yeah this is 90

:O
like enemies getting stuck and taking 3 minutes to path to you while you're trying to ping key...
The gigantic room with random divider that people sometimes pull by accident and get harassed by giant shooters
pretty sure i'd need both objectif
oh the stairs
don't think you get enemies like that in r7a1
You say two scouts like that's any harder
i mean it kinda objectively is
its more enemies
It is harder, maybe it doesn't pose any difficulty to you, but it is harder
2 enemies vs 2 enemies and two scouts its objectively harder
techman10 is too good for you noobs
just by pure numbers
You don't need to open 1 zone in that level to mee t needed amount, usually this means open every zone other that 98 99 and then go to the zone that has key for door + get decoders from there
werent you the person claiming that r1a1 is harder than r7a1?
but now you are arguing that 2 scouts arent harder than 0
I'm not even a pro by any means, I only have like 90 hours 😔
100 hour syndrome moment
well why are u having trouble
u could literally get carried by bots on r7a1, but on r1a1 the enemies on the alarms are so close u cant
I got a diagnosis
r1a1 you can literally be carried by 3 bots and 1 sentry
dont know why, but main progression is 10 decoder, and did every door except 98 and 90
No trouble, I just did it with bots
then??? ksmdkms
Just in general I feel like R1A1 is easier
Yeah go 90,you said there's 2 in that one
You can for both
They're both easy by other level standards
It just isnt 
not really, r1a1 has the door so in ur face during the class IV u do need to shott at least a lil bit
unless u permafoam i guess
Can you break down what makes r1a1 easier than r7a1, because until you do then uh, well I'm not sure what you're trying to prove
both are easy
They are main A tiers
Agree to disagree
Brother this is a lost cause 
No man
This isnt agree to disagree
We have actual points. You dont
bait
.
Players thinking the higher the rundown number, the harder it is 😱
That won't stop me, I can't read
r8a1 > r4e1 obviously
they are generally quite easy levels
i mean, a tiers they go aaa
either way
Everyone knows both are sleepwalk levels in difficulty
Everyone who gives/gave a damn knows r7a1 is the easiest level in the game
I said this, Yes, they are both VERY EASY levels. I just think r1a1 is easier than r7a1
running solo (actual solo, no bots allowed) will show you the difference when you reach the first alarms because of getting gapped by experience
you „could“ argue r1b1 i guess if you wanna argue semantics since you can afk stealth after 1 zone of enemies and 1 class 2 but lol
@halcyon obsidian
that was another thing was a response to someone else dw
with 3 bots to help you along neither level is above the threshold that you can consider them difficult, and you are conflating size/speed with difficulty
.
yeah but two of those arent true
r7 is pretty interesting i just think it was mostly lore related and hence why they didnt go too hard into the difficulty as of yet
woah woah woah
isnt r7A1 extraction way easier than r1a1
Wdym
more straightforward only meaning that key always spawns in the same zone?
what do you mean less alarms
lol the responses to seeing that again
less alarms??
r7a1 extraction was scary but there arent that many enemies
- key vs key. Hsu vs neonate. R7a1 is legit straight lineish no exploring
- only matters on extract
- not even true
- less enemies spawning but carry a heavy obj for a bit vs lots spawning but shorter
This is so funny
My memory don't fail me now...
Class 2... Class 4...
Class 2... Class... 4?...
Error alarm for going back...
Extraction alarm?...
As far as alarms go its literally same
class 2 diminished, class 3 diminished
iirc
Diminished's yeah.
I just want you to load into the mission without any bots and try to clear it solo and get skill gapped by the class 2 in r1a1
so you can change your opinion
Yep, objectively easier.
FAX
Ah so you just a troll. Or someone who acts like one because they dont know how to discuss
understood
the class 2 is sorta chill tbf
I am not a troll, jeez
I started with a statement
And y'all went crazy with it
Yep
You can have like 2 waves spawn and thats pretty much it
Your statement is veryifyingly wrong, too bad.
because it's just such a confusing opinion
you can have objectively wrong opinions
it can still be your opinion
because you may hold an opinion, and your opinion is nothing more than an objectively wrong idea
opinions are ideas, you have the wrong idea
the opinion argument its a nothing thing, i could tell u that all food its bad and we should starve, and u could say thats just my opinion
and u would be right
...
welp
this argument is mid
oh r8e1 bruh
Boutta start the R4 grind
yeah this argument is boring
Ok ok, I'm sorry for making an observation that I thought made sense. Apparently it didn't and for that I should be shamed
:[
can we talk about r8a1 difficuty now
Let's end this discussion please
Objectively quantifiable differences:
- no scouts
- class 2 and 3 DIMINISNED (very important), VS 2 and 4(!) proper
what an angri chat today
ur not being shamed or insulted we just sayin arguments :D
i squeezed through that level JUST BARELY at the end
oh there's no need to be ashamed, it's just odd
slendi definitely has a marketing course
its fine but i expected more
luckily we now have commands for that
whatr
throw buzzwords and good vibes around and you will find your mark
ill throw busses
theres 1 whole point where r7a1 is harder
Extract is longer and has a heavy object
But even that doesnt matter since enemies barely spawn in and take long to get to you
R1A1 is at best as complex
Has harder stealth (enemy density, variety and lighting)
Has harder alarms (higher class, not diminished, worse layouts(closer spawns)
wouldn't that be a humanities course
Get that spicy error blackout a1
Now I'll go do R8A1 and tell everyone here that it's easier than R7A1
wuhhhhhhhhhhhhh-
nah its not
... i think
no its not
It is not.
No
can you tell me when you WR solo speedrun r8a1? got a mailing list?
nah
R7a1 is just too fkn easy
the funny end its funny
i forgot r8a1
This is making me want to go do R7A1 rq ngl
R7A1 should have a tank
uh go for matter wave, ||error alarm at the end||
funny schaeffer
I can't forget it because I spent 8 hours doing solo speedruns on it in one day
oh right
yes I did take breaks
I've yet to start r8, nobody ever wants to join my lobby when I do earlier expeditions.
I get people all the time and I've been doing R1-3
people were confused by your takes as they made no or little sense
(Basing it on time, then some wrong statements)
Then you said what we were smoking for thinking that

I had a lobby for R2D1 open for like 45 minutes before getting a full team
Other levels I see fill instantly
cos that level sucks balls
That hurts
r2d1 is a bit iffy
Many people dont like it. But it also depends on when
It's not that bad! We took it slowly but steadily and made it out first try in about 50 minutes
Just make someone the fog diver
R2D1 was so much of a 1 and done for me I can't even remember the level tbh
Gene cluster to lower fog
collect 5 cells, fall asleep after climbing ladders for 15 minutes
Now it's clicking
Ok, It's a pain in the ass if you open the wrong doors first
I remember a funny ladder to a platform with another ladder that lead to absolutely nothing
I'm sure something can spawn up there
I know that another R2 level has a shit ton of ladders, idk which one now
someone go email 10 chambers to do an april fools where they make every level have a tank error alarm
Regarding r8a1 @burnt flume
Its 4 stealth zones, 2 alarms and extract error
I think its clearly harder than say r7a1
Stealth is honestly basically the same
1st alarm is „harder“ but it doesnt rly matter. Biggest difference is a mine wont kill 99% of the wave in r8a1
2nd is definetly harder (fuckin foliage and doors are worse. Also class 4 vs 3 diminished)
Extract is a lot harder (waaay longer and spawns decenrly quickly)
We all know R4E1 is the easiest level, basically a cake walk
(i'm not serious please don't hurt me)
i wanted to make a joke about training
but then i realized they name changed it again
from eval to training to tutorial
fml
At least eval lives on with r8a2
“Tutorial” Yeah right 💀
instead of initation i read that every time
Eval hardest level mfs when they
none of that trainint tosh they trynna give us
Should’ve just stuck to training
actual quote from Bishop
lol fair
wouldve been even funnier with the credits man 
fr, the cluster of three sleepers on eval had me shaking
Scary stuff right there
i can tell you
I took exception when the game said they'd be too hard to kill and beat them to death with my funny bat
those 4 sleepers (and the door handle on the small door soon after) are a good chunks of all wipes
Melee them smh

also i still find it so funny how training had a below 50% completion rate
of which a good chunk was speedrunning communities fault
Ah
Tightly grip melee weapon to deal a heavy blow sees pmom
I got this game on sale from a friends reccomendation. I don't play the tutorial or anything, Just join his lobby and drop right into R1C2. Crazy stuff right there
I haven't played a level yet that had me that freaked the fuck out
Itl work trust
With 4 of us
tutorial is actually an achievement
Praise god
gotta beat it in under 4 minutes and 6 seconds tho
C missions on their way to drop 4 empty rooms before introducing a new mechanic:

R7c1 uwu
My personal best is 4m12s 😔
Anyone has an open lobby for a newbie to get ruined
We failed the mission obv, only three of us and a bot. But man were those chargers scary when I first saw them
I think I got a 4 11 once
.t lfg
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make a lobby, I'll join you
Bro got .t lfged
You are a pro, teach me your ways
I second this 😔
I like playing with noobs, fun to watch them stumble around
Im new so ill join u
So real
how many of those hrs were r5d1
First clear prob took 2-3 hours
That was long ago tho
I did that lvl 2 more times 🥲
How many of those hours were eval smh
Too many to count 🙁
Been stuck on eval since
R5D2 was more painful for my first clear, that took longer
Rip

WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
Good job
nice :D
Gjgj
Pure solo?
Where’s your solo run at
with bots
WAS SO STRESSED, ty for the door90 instead of the other one
i put everything on the right side for the last door, and the horde spawned on the left side XD FML
ah qwq
happens ksmdkm but at least u got it
yess !!!! after 4 try
Using bots is not solo
:P
Toxic vet elitism (joking)
I am not nearly a vet
Aren't you the toxic vet
toxic gatekeeper (replied to the wrong person)
Also its the truth
I'll report you
When am I ever toxic
always
Real
😭😭
Ong
My name is John Schaeffer 🪣
Yuki is the most toxic
Yuki is the end of r8e1
Meet us there. Bring the data cubes.
Solo list :
eVERY R1, EXCEPT D
R2A1
R3A1
R4A1
R5A1, R5A2
R6A1
R7A1
R8A1
pro
Where’s my carry at
Fr
Yuki where's my r1a1 carry at
need a start game carry
It’s too hard, I can only do R1B1
Wah
Tbf someone's literally asked me if a levels are the hardest and e levels easiest
🙏
Say that it's opposite day
I'm just wainting for a space in R2D2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvbyWUiDtyM
Dude I miss the hell out of the old gtfo combat music, really made you feel intensified
idk i like the music nowadays bit more
tbh i wish we had both
When the female announcer still repeated “Warning Threat Level Extreme” 😔 and now it gone
:P
Yeah
You and me both
after playing r6 and 7, going back to the old rundowns and hearing that was very cool
is this game early access? or fully out?
fully out
fully out since about 3 years
an hour forty of fuckin attempts of r8e1
and its a ||ten fuckin minute mission|| kmdkm
oh my god with bots its so much rng to see if uget good spawns
but then its also so much of where to go for sentries and not
... did u like
not read
oh i didnt said it
my bad
Lol
are you doing sec?
really like that one !
main alone its stupid hard
with bots, everything is hard
lol oh i didnt liked to die
no its not
the first few doors are easy
but man theres so many fuckin giants
i wish i had good aim and the sniper wasnt nerfed
i would take em all from a distance
the moment i get one chicken im absolutely doomed
choke mod is pretty damn good for that level
are the sniper sentry good now ?
snipers sentrys pretty good with bio pings
i mean eats through ammo a bit and it really need giants to be useful
which is why in here its kinda, welp there
but even being situational its pretty good
launching d1 rn and i'll switch some to sniper sentry then + bio
maybs but, idk i want corners but taking bigs but on the last rooms theres not a fuckin corner ever
r1d1* sorry
its like 5 hallways and an awful circular room lol
yeah i mean give bio to bot, and then u can go 3 sentries
mayb 2 burst one snippy
or just 3 burts
i'll try 2 burst + 1 snipi + bio
think i've graduated stealth academy by now
They gave me white socks written, dont die on it
i think they wish me well
i'll do a +22% melee damage as well, must not hurt my run
Hey, Im pretty new to the game, is there any people that would be willing to help me complete the 1st rundown? Like all the missions in the R1?
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it is I, Solum
I tried, no ones responding
Probably bc im new and no one probably wants to run through the beginning of the game. So im screwed then?
Alright, thats a start
I tried the very first mission with bots and they're okay but they fuck stealth up
they cant wake up anything
even if they shoot they wont wake up enemies
and they are perfect at stealth
its 100% you
Cuz some times they just start blasting and im like NOOOOOO
if they shoot theres 2 possibilities:
something else woke up
they are doing "stealth" (by shooting)
u gotta formulate ur message better
u didnt posted ur vc link and u separated ur messages when it shouldve been all compacted into one
remember to read #how-to-matchmake
anyone know someone that goes by "thebudbender"?
was just playing with him and we got disconnected
sometimes when you melee a giant and dont kill him the bots will decide to blast his ass
Yeah, im alright at the stealth. Just seems like some times when im attacking and the bots start blasting i cant tell if it was me or them, but now that i know it cant be them, i know its me now so ill have to git gud i guess lmao
@rose nova Separated all what messages? I typed 1 message short and simple. "LFG". It wasnt multiple spaced out messages.
... no yeah i mean u just dont write "LFG", u gotta write how many players u need and the level the rundown the vc link the lobby code and ur specifications like only people with mics
Slendi
but still gotta, work on the rest
go to sleep
no
Can i post "LF3M R1D1"
Or do you gotta make a VC and post that? Im a little new to discord and dont know how to post my VC to LFG
Im trying to figure it out
join on the vcs that says group of to create a vc
then press the invite button on the vc and copy and paste that link
the link will be for someone to join the vc
then just say LF3 R1D1 (Here goes VC link) (and lobby id)
LMAO fuck
tried to hit enter to space down and it posted without the link
I am failing tonight boyyyy
dont forget to also post the lobby id
yes
when you host a lobby youll see a red button that says: copy lobby id
Okay, pretty sure thats the long string of numbers in the lobby
then you can just send it afterwards to someone
Thanks dude
R1D1 got my dead body again, ressources are LIMITED
C: yeh
luckily u got resource side zones !
tho they funky on alarms and theres always one with more stuff
Im trying to show my friends the reactor startup noise (the duck one) but I cant find it on youtube
imagine set this sound as alarm-clock and you get PTSD 3 months later
Anyone knows how to report a member of the server that joined my lobby just to spill racist slurs and insults yesterday ? Tried to send a message to @foggy plank but didn't work
god i hate E2
you would send a DM/private message to @foggy plank . if you can't message the bot, then you probably have your server privacy set to not allow DM's with server members (which needs to be enabled)
what do you love/hate the most about it?
Thank you 👍
I actually think is a good level and would be fun with a good team its just because the skill needed i guess to get through it which means if you have a team member who cant use cfoam properly or mines or a team who arent communicating it just feels impossible and somewhat tedious. But I know when I do get a good team itll be fun. Its just like E1 which isnt a super hard level but I had a good team who communicated and that made it really fun for me. Same with R2D2, which is one of my favourite levels. Just E2 is that hard that theres not a huge amount of room for waiting or explaining or errors stuff like that. But I did have one team and we got pretty far and that was really fun.

I envy the people who have a group to play with haha
you should try doing it with one of the secret commands 😄
💀
secret command????
do tell
3 gameplay ones 2 that make stuff interesting
what are the other commands?
error and thick infectious fog
3 gameplay
2 unrelated u could say
what are the unrelated ones lmao
maybe you could start our new game inside GTFO...
what are the commands
my good friend
e2 anyone?
sure
i'll join
Side objectives are fun, that is all
mm sometimes
sometimes nice, sometimes not
well i mean they are optional
But not always nice
On one point, that's true, on the other I very, very rarely meet a team that doesn't just want to do PE
And I get why, they just want to be done with the map
yeah true lmao
But some sectors really are just wasting time
true
What map would be ATMOSPHERIC with lights off?
R1C2 maybe
get yo goofy ahh outta here
discord drops 😱
FREE LOOTT!!!@!@!
<@&408548765599793173> (very probably on multiple channels)
mods, blow his house up
mods pinged in every channel good job team
interesting
not in every though
off with your technicalities
😄
@mellow hedge I always wondered: What people mean when they say "know what you're doing"?
I know how to point a gun and press LMB enthusiastically. Or you mean knowing the entire map step-by-step?
Its more having a good understanding of the game and how everything works, to the point where you can make quick and good decisions within seconds
Ah. Yeah, none of that here. My decision making is universally my weakest stat.
like deciding whether to pull a room, knowing when to take out scouts
and not waking stuff up all the time
at least for me
You wouldn't believe how many people just join in any lobby 100% clueless about the map and sometimes about the game
I've had people join r4e1 lobbies because "they were new at the game and wanted to see what the harder maps were like"
And they weren't vets in disguise I can tell you that
Had a guy join my R8D2 secondary run saying he played one game before and is good at fps games so it wouldnt be a problem lol
Ah yes
The "I'm good at APEX/Valorant/whatever"
which morphed into "I'm good at Dark Souls"
which morphed into the very recent "I'm good at Lethal Company"
which has very little, or nothing, to do with GTFO but whatever
guys im a ranked professional lethal company player
fr like i like to say im decent at valorant but when i started gtfo and even like 50 hours in i was still pretty dogshit
omg what team you play for?
Hello people
ello
I am 100 hours in and I personally hate how helpless bots are 😄
ive never actually played with bots
hr count is often irrelevant since ive seen hopeless thousand hr players and absolute gigachad 200 hr players
they are as good as their leader
thats insane surely after 1000 hours you would be really good
I have 200h and im decent
i think lol
Bots are never gonna wake anything up, ignore infection, and give 0 shits if the map is in the dark or not
Me as a leader can go stabbity stab in a room full of zeds without waking up everything. Bots don't to anything except when something goes red cus it was too close
haha you'd think
that part is true cuz bots cant melee since all they do is silent
if I had 1000h i think id be a god
It really depends on HOW that playtime is spent
Never understood hours to skill correlation
There really ain't any
Imagine starting a game and sitting in one corner for 1000 hours, watching textures morph 😄
0 > 200 is a difference, yeah... But after that its a flatline for me.
I learned more in 1 hour watching speedruns than in 100 of pubs
yeah true
Thanks you so much @paper sail for helping a beginner like me with tips and tricks at my first game GTFO! 🧸
I watch a decent amount of vids and stuff like that mainly like eva and scaler
cause i actually learn shit
surely I would be good at the game right?
yeah ur like the best
thats what im sayin
I disagree
Interested in another mission?
if you believe it, it will be true
how to become overconfident and get yourself killed 101
no such thing
what was the effect of thinking you know everything and don't called again?
dickhead?
dunning-kruger?
LMAO
😛 I need to let my heart have a slight case of coma right now, but this game is pretty addictive, so I'll be back later on.
me when i fall through the map on r8b4
rip
i skipped secondary on that
not by choice
... R8B4? So you are saying that there are more missions than what the game shows?
but if you walk too far
i put a message out sayin i was doing secondary then my team just said na
just for r8
Still. Good to know 😄
na
what is spoiler tag again
2 week rule
okok
since people can queue for that in lfgs
either someone thinks we're all schizos or there's more maps
lmao i thought that at first
r8e1 isn't a real E
I said to a guy "look at this idiot with his typo"
is it a C
I can't pass R2C2, but knowing that there is more is good 😄
more like b tier
ay ay ay thats a bit too far
it's a weird map
so its just a b tier with stronger enemies?
the enemies are meh its the design choice
run forward for 10 mins
then 5 more for the ending
and open doors huh
It felt like a D to me
It's a gimmick-map
im calling it, its not an E tier
The main problem was enemy to supplies ratio (we missed a single ammopack)
it must be easy because my friend did it second try in 20 mins
@tall hawk ur finnish so even if u were the worst gtfo player ever you've automatically redeemed yourself
no
Its a fun little level though
im the worst gtfo player
match make
ohhh
in game match making
holy im stupid
you are not
yeah ingame mm || sucks ass ||
Tell that to the leage of legends players stuck anywhere below plat
good for you, it's 20% chances of a guy with endless ammo and 40% of someone from another continent
yeah true
i think also its people not wanting to get better
have you guys ever browsed the gtfo steam discussions its rly interesting
no I just remember one guy who kept saying that the game's supposed to be cheated
or some shit like that
i own that server
i know
oh damn i gotta join that
theres in a link in the highlighted communities section
actually top 1 people in the world
Also regarding r8e1
Realistically it sits at a C tier
its not harder than other C tiers with optionals at all
You know eva
i like the level
I agree with you
is it possible to clear waves with using only hammer
i think the ending shouldve been slower (not insta tanks)
or melee weapons
but sometimes you say things as if they're facts even thought it's opinable
well yes
spoil :(
yes but skill n awareness
True
Oh sry ;-;
Like, I think it's C-tier-ish too
Yes absolutely
Unless people do the thing where they cheese extreme I guess
No idea how that looks like, I assume it doesn't restart the alarm or it'd be pointless
i think it stems from how i tend to argue/discuss
Im sure of my opinion (if i have a base for it) but that doesnt mean i cant see other viewpoints or even change mine.
all team scans and enemies spawn way faster
is it bad that team scans spawn faster
kinda
nono, the enemies spawn faster
I'm sure it ain't like I'll describe now but: you kill 1 sleeper it respawns
The spawn cap fills and stuff spawn constantly until the cap is filled
Surges are commonly all team scans
and they have a different style of spawning enemies with basically no delay. A permanent spawn cap
So theres always the max amount of enemies after you lol
TL:DR - it spawns all the 25 enemies allowed at once and for every enemy you kill it immediately spawns a new one, no waves
So it creates a permanent pressure on the team and you barely scrap by to reload even once
I've spent all my 200+ hours avoiding r2e1 bc of them lol i dont wanna do it
its in waves of 3 iirc
mm might be reduced surge
Arbitrary, but alright
never really put the time into it at all
just lfg
it's surge+shadows+surge again with a chance of hybrids then an error where you need to carry shit with fog
like, that's the very big vague situation
dont worry i will too lol
see i would just rrather not do that
:d
Ironically, as along as someone knows vaguely where to go for error, it's a map where it's ok to do blind
Fuck I did it blind with 3 guys because 2 of them knew where to go
"What to do?" "Error now we need to get to sec door alarm while carrying cargo" "Nice."
so it's type of the mission where you die over and over until you know where you must go
ehhh
you CAN get lost on first zone of error
but after that it's super-straight-forward
ehhh
it says "ERROR"
errors are fun
look i hate errors so much because i get panicked and i dont know what im doing
just go fast, clear rooms, do objective
i use so much ammo but i kill so many enemies...
ezpz
i feel like you skipped a few parts there 
80% of the time i have less than half of my teammate's ammo
dont soil!!!
soiling is bad
soil = bed
2 phases: ||1 you need to open reactor room, S-scans and a lot of them in 1 alarm, cocoons and a mom, 2 reactor is nice but 1 code wants you to split and go back to cocoon zone to get the code but it's all BBCs and cscouts, also after reactor is done be fast or fight tanks||
during errors you commonly either push togethers or some people hold (moving behind) and others push
and there is error for the whole game?
how am i supposed to kill scouts stealth when there is an eror
it's not really an error
you go fast
speedy
it's like r4e1's last part
wacky wacky
it's a reactor wave but it has like 30seconds so you ARE going to fail the wave
havent done
i dont do missions in an order
:D
you can either have 2-2 split or all 4 go in but be careful not to reset cocoons again
what are cocoons
respawn cage?
i saw smth about them on the wiki
respawn thingies on the ceiling of zones
aight
you get 2 rooms AND 1 zone away and they respawn shit in the room/zone, the % and what it respawns is set per zone, level, whatever
move 2 rooms awat, poof, room magically re appears
i larned something yesterday
r5a1 respawns like half of the sleepers I think, r5c1 respawns all but scouts
when you get better you can 😉
sprinting while they are moving is better
sometimes its good to
if you need to go fast just kill scout then deal with sleepers
i did that and the sleeper below me alerted him
Better to wake up a sleeper, than a scout
if something wakes up and you cant get it you usain bolt to kill the scout
Why no throwing knives? :c
If a scout is VERY close to a sleeper (nearly touching) waking up said sleeper wakes up the scout istantly
Same goes for killing a sleeping enemy VERY close to a scout
is 5 meters okay
ya thats why you dont do it then
did that 2 days ago
Yup, learnt that the hard way
and found that out
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no cause hammer is life
if i have knife ill go for it 
yeah i love hammer .. i always use it
but i rarely play knife
I eyeball it but rule of thumb is, if you could get between them without touching them, they're far enough from each other
but i wanna learn knife
yeah but you are good af at the game
mb
meant for eva lol
lol watch some tnenpi
hes been in that mission for 1:24 hours
yeah some missions solo take up to 4 hours
can cfoam grenade freeze a p mom
no
nuh uh
no, foam tripmine can
Knife's dope. Can't reliably kill a scout tho (only to the back of the head it can)
I believe it is 3 foam nade or mine
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didnt gtfo used to have more than 4 players?
no
i wonder why i thought that, bought the game a really long time ago. am still basically a rookie.
only 1 rundown completed so far.
are you playing with other people
play with 4
throw foggies on scans
sentry or 2 facing the waves
shoot
shrimple
also bio pings
we try to save throwable foggies for other room
and you handheld one
is that in corect ways?
use the repellers on the first scan cos i think u get a turbine soon after
meow
i love games that require solid team work, and communication.
uranium for lunch
lead in my nervous system
I mean you were doing "fine" from what I've seen
From the super-very-little I saw, I'd tell you just need to get more confident into doing things
i mean
it's literally an alarm of chargers then the map is over
If you were having trouble clearing rooms with bots then that's fine, bots don't do stealth kills, especially on giants, super well, so it takes def longer then "lel let's scatter the 2 giants"
Also we already knew where to go and what to do so that trims the timing down
i feel like that's just a skill issue
everything is technically a skill issue
but the more i play the more i improve,right
yes
Just experiment more on things, try to see how far you can "push your luck" then it stop being "pushing your luck" and starts being a winning bet 99% of the times
its really funny to me how you can stealth kill giants but not anything else solo
?
o.O
yeah my reaction too
I mean hybrid and chimckens
you can stealth kill those?
big bois
i mean..i looked as my guy got downed from bitchslap..with a bone
Chicken is double occiput hammer IIRC
how..?
by... killing them
and I think Hybrid's not too far off
be more specific
also,what are techs used in runs?
damn u vets and your experience
wdym techs
knowing the map
shooting really well
getting out of the tounge attacks range
no,like reload cancel and stuff
technical stuff that you can learn
there's no solo specific tech
there's just knowledge and tricks in general
and being good
eh there is solo specific tech
Do this
enlighten me eva
anyway, i go ahead and (try) to pub 
its gamin time
wait no
you know where to find me 
Go to R1A1, kill everything in the first zone save for one striker, wake him up, then see how long you last without getting hit by him
Strikers attack in a range that's similiar to a keyhole (circle and a rectangle in front of them) try to kite as much as you can
Do a bit to get the idea of how to kite shit
learn all the charge breakpoints for your melee weapon depending on enemy and location
For shooters, you either crouch at the right moment, or move sideways and use the camera a bit (pretend you're Neo in that first Matrix movie scene).
isn't it a cone?
nuhuh AFAIK
like,get closer to 'em and ironically their tongue can't do anythin'?
who tf is tank
ignore that part
yeah
but it's basically a keyhole
if you break your LoS ENOUGH, you override that shit from what I understood
Even though I get tongued from behind glass in Lab sometimes but whatever
But yeah also what Elbow said about breakpoints
Did you know you can just onetap occiput a shooter if your angle is right (hammer)?
and bat
I usually charge a bit anyway but that's just me
no?..
yeh
by one-tap you mean no charge at all
yeah
tap is 3 damage, occi is 10x weakpoint, they have 30 hp
really? man
yeah cubic damage rampup is wild
might be faster to just tap occi and tap him anywhere
but that's worse because if something aggros you have less time
it's very very handy knowing what your melee does at what charge levels because that way you can stealth much more effectively
double stealth kills become ez pz
and even 3 kills become possible
also know how aggro works
if something proxy aggros, nothing can long range aggro
so take out groups of 2 first in crowded rooms, since you're guaranteed to be safe
remember that you can always flash other enemy before killing something to try forcing it to wake up instead of some other enemy
sometimes useful
long range aggro also has niche uses yes
it takes a second or so longer for long range aggro to wake something
no need to be long range tho, if you have a group you can force specific enemy to wake up
so you can flash someone to have more time incase you're walk stealthing and can't be bothered to wait
very useful
not all overloads are error alarms right?
and because that enemy was woken up you can kill it for free since no other enemy wakes up when you kill it even if they are flashing
yes that's the otherthing
killing awake enemies will not wake any sleeping ones
the only thing you have to worry about is your movement
how do i know if an overload is an error?
if it's carrying a hisec crate or something simlar

