gtfo-chat

[worthy flicker]

It took us till R1C2 to actually see the value in the bio tbh

[junior latch]

yep

[sharp owl]

didnt know that

[worthy flicker]

The first 3 or so missions we just blitzed through, knives out.

[junior latch]

bio is legit always a take (exception is challenge runs sometimes)

[sharp owl]

then it makes sense that i see burst a lot

[worthy flicker]

Yeah, I've come to learn that lmao

[junior latch]

even if hel auto would aim for head it would just be worse

[lusty river]

Common burst sentry W

[junior latch]

the sentry isnt made to kill

[pine root]

only issue with hel auto sentry

is that is misses

tbh

[junior latch]

ye

its accuracy is such a meme

[sharp owl]

if u place hel like shotgun sentry it still gonna miss?

[junior latch]

kinda

either way

Both it and shotgun miss a lot

[worthy flicker]

I will say that it was working for me in a niche circumstance and I don't think I'd use it outside of said circumstance.

Which was putting inside chokepoints during R1C1

[junior latch]

the only thing it would do on a reactor is peel for the team

but if you take a real killing sentry that also makes it easier while being more efficient

[worthy flicker]

I imagine it'll matter more on later reactor levels

[junior latch]

what would matter more?

[worthy flicker]

Taking burst over hel

[lusty river]

Don’t ever take hel auto sentry lol

[junior latch]

eh you can in niche scenarios

[lusty river]

I’d rather just avoid it entirely

[worthy flicker]

Doesn't that mean there's basically 1 sentry worth taking?

[junior latch]

sniper is worth too

[lusty river]

Sniper sentry is worth taking

[junior latch]

just more map (placement)/enemy dependent

[worthy flicker]

In what situations, out of curiosity?

[junior latch]

and you can clear most maps easily even with suboptimal sentries

[junior latch]

high range
bigger enemies of any kind

Sniper sentry wrecks chargers and giants

burst sentry suffers

[worthy flicker]

Tbh chargers are easy in my experience

High Cal Pistol go brrrt

[lusty river]

Does he know?

[pine root]

What levels have you played?

[lusty river]

😏

[wraith marsh]

chargers are a-

[worthy flicker]

We've been going through R1 rn, we're all still newer

[pine root]

R1 chargers are scary but they get used in better situations

Chargers are a c tier enemy

[worthy flicker]

R1C2 has been the first experience where stealth feels more mandatory, simply due to mission length and resource starvation

[sharp owl]

i still feel like burst is kinda useless isnt it? it has very low damage (6 with 1 burst) low damage from 1 refill/full refill and even has worse dps then sniper sentry without bio

or i just dont understand smth, i only played r1 for now

[wraith marsh]

dont look into stats too much

[lusty river]

My honest reaction: 💀

[wraith marsh]

you will get mislead by a lot of things

[worthy flicker]

I don't think I'll ever stop using the high cal tho, thing feels like a resident evil magnum

[wraith marsh]

burst sentry is good because it will always do something

[junior latch]

i think its more not understanding stats

[lusty river]

It’s cool, I prefer hel rifle tho

[sharp owl]

as i said maybe i just didnt understand smth

[wraith marsh]

(its mainly good on strikers and shooters and 1 more enemy you havent seen yet)

[worthy flicker]

Tbf the stats are kinda vague as they're just things like "high damage"

[junior latch]

oh we mean actualy stats

[wraith marsh]

^

[junior latch]

theres spreadsheets

[worthy flicker]

The actual numbers that I could go find if I really wanted to

[worthy flicker]

Hel Rifle is good, doesn't have the same feeling tho

[junior latch]

just glancing at it (like kusee probably did) can be very missleading tho

[worthy flicker]

High Cal feels good to shoot

[junior latch]

high cal is a good all roundish weapon

[lusty river]

I like the long range and pierce

[worthy flicker]

Even if it wasn't, it's the single most satisfying weapon to shoot so far for me

[wraith marsh]

high cal do feel p good

[sharp owl]

i didnt just glance at it, but maybe i dont understand how this stats gonna transfer to real game

[lusty river]

I’ve killed 3-5 chargers several times with one bullet with a hel rifle. It can be efficient

[sharp owl]

this is why im asking here

[worthy flicker]

The only Hel weapon I've used extensively is the shotgun, which feels like it mulches everything infront of you or you have to shoot 1 striker 3 times to kill it

[wraith marsh]

ok this guys pretty based

[junior latch]

Gotta think of it like this

Sniper overkills smalls enemies more than 100% over (nearly 50 dmg on 20 hp enemies) so thats dmg gone

If it shoots smth you shot or another sentry shot (or worse smth that dies before it hits) then that dmg is gone entirely

burst doesnt have those issues

[wraith marsh]

sniper also doesnt do shit to nonpinged enemies or small rooms

shotgun uses tool lightning fast and misses a lot

[junior latch]

Just fuse the 2 of them and you get the based hel shotgun + hel rifle user

[wraith marsh]

auto misses and stagger is generally kinda meh

[gusty burrow]

It's effective dps when factoring headshots is much better, and since hel auto and shotgun both have terrible accuracy it ends up having the highest dps of those 3.

Sniper has better "dps", but important to note that it shoots in 48 damage increments, which is massively overkilling most enemies.

[worthy flicker]

How do you guys feel about the mines? I normally run those while one member runs C foam, do the funny c foam door into mine trick

[gusty burrow]

Plus, sniper can have difficulty acquiring targets if it doesn't have long enough sightlines.

[junior latch]

sniper sentries dmg rly only matters once you get into non small enemy territory

[wraith marsh]

mines is kinda like bio, you can pretty much always take it

a bit less generally useful but its a very good pick

[junior latch]

but those alarms are more rare and arent always perfect for sniper sentry

[worthy flicker]

I've seen 1 mine devastate an entire wave before, sold me on it ngl

[sharp owl]

i didnt think about overkill damage 💀

[junior latch]

Mines are medium risk super high reward on blind picks

[wraith marsh]

theres very few levels where you cant get usage out of mines, and worst case you get more tool to funnel to your sentries

[worthy flicker]

So, you all recommend Mine+Bio+Sniper+Burst normally?

[junior latch]

eh

either bio + mine + 2 burst

[worthy flicker]

At worst I've been able to panic throw em down at bigs when I'm out of high cal

[junior latch]

or cfoam instead of the 2nd burst

[wraith marsh]

same ^^

foam is really strong but its kinda boring

[junior latch]

you swap burst for sniper if you expect giants or chargers and think its value is higher

[worthy flicker]

But you'd always have Mine+Bio+1 Burst?

Alright, I gotcha

[junior latch]

Mines are actually pretty mid vs bigs

[worthy flicker]

Better then nothing tho

[junior latch]

You swap out mines sometimes

if you dont do challenge runs then you always have bio

[wraith marsh]

you swap out mines on some reactors and a few very specific levels

(like r1d1)

[junior latch]

burst is basically omnipresent but theres super rare cases where you would wanna skip (like r8a2 sec)

[wraith marsh]

its a very specific set of circumstances

[worthy flicker]

The only challenge I've attempted is actually soloing R1C2 no bots

[junior latch]

mines are more commonly skipped (see chilldudes examples)

[worthy flicker]

Wanted to see how far I could get

Answer, to a security 3 door when all the chargers came lol

[wraith marsh]

the main thing is, 3 sentries will almost always not be able to be used, or use too much tool if you do use all 3 at once

its just overkill

[junior latch]

^

a good example for that is r6c1

[worthy flicker]

It felt extremely ammo hungry when we did that

[junior latch]

Bio + 3 burst being optimal there

but you only use 3 burst sentries on the last alarm in the level

[gusty burrow]

95% of levels you'll be bringing pretty much optimal tools with bio + mines + burst + burst/c-foam.

[worthy flicker]

And how often do you guys use different guns?

[wraith marsh]

not very

[worthy flicker]

Or do you have a defacto preferred loadout?

[junior latch]

theres prefered loadouts and level based loadouts (adapting)

[balmy moat]

It’s more of a “pool” of guns that we usually use and pick from

[gusty burrow]

Chill Dude McHelweapon is an outlier and should not be counted.

[wraith marsh]

true

[worthy flicker]

Tbf I've heard the hel weapons are pretty great, shotgun/revolver/rifle anyway

[balmy moat]

Some guns we outright ignore

[junior latch]

as long as you dont run slug shotgun/sniper for wave clear or assault rifle/short rifle for bigs you fine honestly

[worthy flicker]

I was told to avoid the short rifle explicitly

[junior latch]

all hel weapons are very good

[balmy moat]

Yes

[wraith marsh]

slug shotgun har was pretty fun on r7d2

[junior latch]

poor teammates

:^ )

[wraith marsh]

me and ray were holding, he had dtr short rifle

it was an interesting time

[junior latch]

honestly the 1 thing i kinda had fun with on slug (like fun as in felt good to kill) was flyers

[worthy flicker]

I appreciate all the advice btw, thanks for your time guys

[sharp owl]

same here

what do u guys think about scattergun btw? when can it be usefull?

[wraith marsh]

unfortunately, always

it is in a very op state rn

[gusty burrow]

It is giga broken against any large enemy. Once you start seeing larger enemies, you can pretty much bring it every level.

[worthy flicker]

Thing murdered the bigs I shot with it

[wraith marsh]

if you can get 2 strikers per shot with it, you can take it on any level

(you only need 1 on the team tho)

[worthy flicker]

I love a good shotgun

[sharp owl]

so scattergun makes sniper pretty useless?

[wraith marsh]

snipers got a lot of range but isnt very versatile anymore

also needs headshot

[gusty burrow]

yah, except on exceedingly few levels where you're strongly incentivised to not go close enough to the enemies for scattergun

[junior latch]

Sniper makes sniper pretty useless

jokes aside

Sniper has like 1 real niche and 2 pseudo

Its the best option for hybrids/chickens (unless you can get close reliably)
Its good vs kraken (rare af and prec rifle does a very good job aswell)
Its good vs giant strikers. But man just take scatter/hel rifle or BC

[wraith marsh]

so basically just hybrids

cuz chickens are as rare as kraken honestly

how many alarms do you actually fight them in, cuz I can only think of 1

[little ridge]

Mostly because hybrids have silly shit stagger animations tbh

Or they'd be easier to just hs over and over

[junior latch]

yep

and if you bring smth for 1 enemy and theres other options thats not a real niche thats good

[worthy flicker]

i feel like ive gained forbidden knowledge rn

[junior latch]

unless you know what it is you wouldnt rly

[wraith marsh]

youve probably seen a chicken by now

maybe

[sharp owl]

ok guys thx for answers. 1 last question, what do u think is better and in what circumstances - shotgun or combat shotgun?

[worthy flicker]

ive been up to R1C2

ill let you judge

[restive cape]

(Giant shooters are called chickens for some reason)

[little ridge]

Can have chickens

[worthy flicker]

oh, then yeah, i have seen a chicken

[little ridge]

Same for R1B1's giant side

Emphasys on the "CAN"

[worthy flicker]

it spawned in a wave and i gunned it down with the high cal, as the lord intended

[wraith marsh]

the fabled wave chicken

[gusty burrow]

amen

[wraith marsh]

insane

[little ridge]

I think CS waveclears better and you get like 22 shells per refill

[worthy flicker]

is that rare?

[little ridge]

I still love Shotgun for some reason I cant really put my finger on

[flat perch]

somehow i find chicks the "funnest" enemies of gtfo.. so satisfying jump-bonking that head over and over again and dodging the slow projectiles in between

[wraith marsh]

imo, you never take shotgun over combat shotty

[worthy flicker]

did i kill a unicorn?

[little ridge]

Cant spawn IIRC?

Wave enemies are reddish

Pretty sure chickens dont have that model

[worthy flicker]

i swear i saw it in a wave, i might be mistaken but i know ive seen a big shooter

[little ridge]

No what happened maybe is that you triggered it

Due to shooting

[gusty burrow]

Possibly it was sleeping in a room nearby, and woke up when the wave spawned.

[worthy flicker]

yall know more then i would

[junior latch]

shotgun has a niche by being more reliable in its kills and blowing through bosses pretty well

vs combat shotty

[little ridge]

yes

man-modeing tank with 2 shotties

[wraith marsh]

I would argue they are equivelant in both of those

due to just firing twice

and stagger on tank being very useful

[junior latch]

Eeeh

[wraith marsh]

mom shotgun is better for

[little ridge]

I think that for general case use people are going to be fine with either tbh

[wraith marsh]

but solo kill mom kinda meh

[junior latch]

combat shotty wave clear obviously peaks far far higher

but shotgun kills 1 shot out to like 8 meters easily

Combat shotty doesnt reliably 2 tap there

[little ridge]

I'd guess CS is more forgiving so there's that as far as newbies go

[gusty burrow]

CS has way better ammo, and is still very effective vs most enemies. Shotgun does have a lot of burst kill potential, and is also good vs bosses.

Basically means you bring CS for good close-range wave clear, with utility into big enemies and bosses.

And you bring shotgun for pressure relief (in tandem with other players who have good waveclear), and to help vs big enemies and bosses.

[junior latch]

but im arguing semantics

[serene jewel]

Is there a mod that unnerfs sniper lmao

[wraith marsh]

fire 3 times

we argue uptime at that point, please take this as a joke

[gusty burrow]

CS:

• Waveclear: 7/10
• Big enemies: 6/10
• Bosses: 5/10

Shotgun:

• Waveclear: 5/10
• Big enemies: 6/10
• Bosses: 8/10

[serene jewel]

I need to find a decent team to finally beat r2e1

[wraith marsh]

gl with that lol

[little ridge]

I want the rating in 🇺🇸

[junior latch]

Im german. Jokes are illegal

[serene jewel]

scatter supreme

[wraith marsh]

r2e1 pubs are always pretty bad

afaik

[serene jewel]

I've attempted it like thrice now

[junior latch]

Thats some very low wave clear for combat shotty

[sharp owl]

Shotgun can 1 shot shooter only from 4 meters, but for strikers i think ur right

[gusty burrow]

Waveclear: 7 eagles / 10 assault rifles

[serene jewel]

Fuck all the shadow giants

[sharp owl]

Cs can easy 2 shot striker tho

[junior latch]

for shooters its just hitting some headshot pellets

[wraith marsh]

that will be the least of your problems

[junior latch]

Good combat shotty players 1 tap them reliably

[gusty burrow]

Mainly because of low range, it's still good

[worthy flicker]

As a final question before more R1C2 attempts, how do yall feel about the DTR?

[wraith marsh]

hel revos better

DTR is very good but not worth the effort

[gusty burrow]

If you're killing 5-7 strikers per mag, never swap buddy

[worthy flicker]

Gotcha gotcha

[wraith marsh]

ok but tru, with that firing competency, hel revo is STILL better

[sharp owl]

What about cms?

[worthy flicker]

Headshots are easy peasy when they got fat heads

[wraith marsh]

just need to learn to play pen

[serene jewel]

Is hel revo good against chargers? I use the carbine for them instead

[junior latch]

yes

[gusty burrow]

There is a shortage of good DTR players, and an overpopulation of good HEL Revo players, I'm just trying to do what is good for the ecosystem as a whole

[junior latch]

hel revo is good vs all pretty much

[serene jewel]

Cause I miss my one tap headshots

[wraith marsh]

fair

DTR players are pretty based

[serene jewel]

I gave the dtr a try but

[junior latch]

1 tap headshots? What

[serene jewel]

Idk either I'm using it wrong or

[serene jewel]

booster gang

[worthy flicker]

It's just headshots

That's it

[serene jewel]

Do you have to drag it down every burst

[worthy flicker]

A little

[gusty burrow]

I have an interesting question for you chill, to you, what weapon player am I?

[serene jewel]

Or do I just have to space every burst

[worthy flicker]

It's no Burst special

[junior latch]

Boosters cringe

[worthy flicker]

I was dragging down on enemies at a real distance

[serene jewel]

I LIKE MY ONE TAPS

[worthy flicker]

But most things in common engagement range I let it go, or maybe moved by mms

[wraith marsh]

off the top of my head I would say hel revo machinegun but I am not confident in that

[gusty burrow]

LMAO

[wraith marsh]

you change weapons a lot

[gusty burrow]

Yeah, I definitely try to flex based on level and team. But even then I would not call myself any kind of waveclear weapon like MG

[serene jewel]

Ooh I want to give hel autopistol a try

But it doesn't seem like it fits my playstyle

[wraith marsh]

honestly I dont really note what other ppl use consistently

[gusty burrow]

das fair

[wraith marsh]

I think the only other person I could say is jish playing hel shotty scatter and I dont think they take hel shotty every run (also only past few updates)

[serene jewel]

Double shotgun is really good in cqc but you feel useless in large rooms

Or against hybrids and flyers

[wraith marsh]

you said it yourself, im an outlier

[jade iron]

+13% hel revo is classified by geneva as a war crime

[serene jewel]

GENEVA SUGGESTION

[junior latch]

Yea jish is a dirty late joiner for hel shotty

[serene jewel]

Hmmm could hel shotgun scatter work in r2e1

[junior latch]

Idk why you would take scatter on r2e1 tbh

[serene jewel]

Because one shot giants is fun

When someone fucks up stealth

[junior latch]

theres barely any

[little ridge]

But rooms big and the giants are hybrids

[jade iron]

we obey the laws of war here in the complex

[serene jewel]

Oh

What would be better then

[wraith marsh]

you havent seen enough of the level yet from what im guessing

[serene jewel]

Yeah I don't remember much

[little ridge]

Like, 99% of the groups that have issues with r2e1 have issues with the hybrids+surge or the last part

[serene jewel]

Nah I can make it through the surge

It's the part after that that everyone gives up

[jade iron]

I think dtr is like a high A if you learn to use it

you need to get the 1-burst on strikers fairly often

but I don't think it needs to be anything crazy

I put some time into the gun recently, I don't think it's as hard to learn as people say it is

it also has surprisingly high dps into bigs

[serene jewel]

Here, one of my R2e1 experiences

[trim sail]

^

[junior latch]

„The“

[serene jewel]

#gtfo-media message

[serene jewel]

The first surge ok

[trim sail]

a hybrid firing into us, but none give a shit about it and blame other teammates

[serene jewel]

Hel shotgun carry

[trim sail]

seems familiar ?

[jade iron]

wdym they just need to get through the one true surge and they'll be fine

rest of the level is a cakewalk

[junior latch]

Thats what they meant

the first surge isnt the issue here. The other 4 are

[serene jewel]

How about hel shotgun burst cannon

[little ridge]

🇺🇸

[serene jewel]

I don't know if that's good or bad

[wraith marsh]

if you take burst cannon to r2e1

you would be based as fuck

but I wouldnt do that lol

[trim sail]

scatter gun number 1

[serene jewel]

I take it to r1a1 too

[trim sail]

screw you guys

[little ridge]

I'd say it'd be fine tbh

Enough range to deal damage to the hybrids

[gusty burrow]

I think it is kinda good there. Probably best ranged option for hybrids, still spammable into wave.

[serene jewel]

I use hel rifle for charger heavy levels usually

[wraith marsh]

yeah its probably pretty good, especially rn

[trim sail]

i'd rather go with hel gun or hel rifle to stagger it instantly

[serene jewel]

Idk again I've never made it far

Woo there it is

[gusty burrow]

I prefer my enemies dead rather than staggered, sincerely, a HEL autopistol enjoyer

[little ridge]

I mean it ain't like you're trying to do that map alone

[serene jewel]

Cognitive dissonance

[wraith marsh]

I would rather have more control of the surge than burst cannon provides you, especially in pubs

but if you trust your teammates its pretty good prolly

[little ridge]

So whatever you choose needs to live into the environment of the other team member's choices

[serene jewel]

I just use hel shotgun for the surges

[little ridge]

Which needs to be varied enough to handle both the surges and the hybrids

[worthy flicker]

That's the easy part

[little ridge]

So taking something that is good only at one of those might hinder your chances

[serene jewel]

Yeah I like allrounder loadouts

[little ridge]

But considering how decent I think BC is in nearly all situations, I'd say BC is fine

[jade iron]

there's a harder part?

[serene jewel]

No doubt

Maybe I should try hosting for it so I can finally get it done

[trim sail]

r2e1 can be splitted into 2 main sections: the first one is super easy, the second part is where hell begins (for pubs).

[worthy flicker]

Timing my reloads better lmao

[jade iron]

dtr has a pretty good clip

and a good reload

[worthy flicker]

Agreed, doesn't mean I'm good at timing em tho

[jade iron]

oh I guess maybe you have to cancel to get the good reload

[serene jewel]

Torn between hel sg + bc or hel rifle

[jade iron]

but timing reloads is a thing with every gun ever

and it isn't like dtr is bullpup or something

[trim sail]

reload cancel is not that bad

just take time to practice

btw

[serene jewel]

I play killing floor 2 so reload cancel was almost natural to me

[trim sail]

gimme back the old hel revolver reload cancel...

[jade iron]

hel revo cancel nerf gets me exactly during large wavecleer efforts

most of the time I was cancelling late anyway

I don't mind it as a nerf, as long as they go no further with it

[serene jewel]

does anyone want to help me clear R2E1

[trim sail]

no

☕

[ripe void]

smg or heavy smg

both short and medium range

[true pilot]

Heavy has more damage, SMG has more stagger (i think, i usually run Heavy SMG)

[ripe void]

🙏

[serene jewel]

just use carbine

[jade iron]

heavy smg's extra range and light make it a bit more versatile imo

people call it better assault rifle

smg seems to have the better output up close but I value the range

both mediocre guns though

[bleak brook]

Me and my pals are new to this game, and we're a little stuck on the reactor level, it's like the 4th level or something. Can I ask for some assistance in strategy? There's only 3 of us currently

[jade iron]

we had the same question a few hours ago: #gtfo-chat message

[bleak brook]

Oh bet, thanks bro

[jade iron]

r1c1 gets asked about all the time

common new player hardstuck level

impossible according to reddit

[bleak brook]

Facts lol, it's pretty hard when we have not read any guides are anything, we just usually use what we think works

[jade iron]

if it's too much of a wall, feel free to play other rundowns btw

14 A tiers and 22 B tiers is a blessing for new crews

and there isn't much reason to experience the game in any particular order

outside of doing r7 before r8

[bleak brook]

Hm, ok, this is good to know. Didn't realize how common this question was 💀

[restive cape]

I also wouldn't recommend going into R5 without some experience. B1's a great example of why.

[jade iron]

the tiring part is when new crews take the advice and still die

and they're still doing something silly

but it's hard to get to the bottom of what they're doing wrong in a level like r1c1 without seeing them play

[bleak brook]

I'll be honest, that will probably happen LOL, plus we only have 3 of us

I'm also thinking we don't have the best aim

[jade iron]

alternatively you can learn to play better in levels in other rundowns that are actually fun

and then stomp r1c1 later on

[gusty burrow]

You don't need the craziest aim to succeed in GTFO. A lot of what gives you 'good aim' in this game is actually just learning enemy animations so that their movements become predictable

[bleak brook]

That's true, the sudden change in movement gets me a lot

especially when I'm trying to use sniper to one tap big guys

[jade iron]

sniper is in a pretty sad place right now

big r8 nerfs

[bleak brook]

fr?

Aw

[jade iron]

clip size 3 -> 2
shot delay 0.5s -> 1.3s
more recoil
longer reload

compensated I guess with rounds per refill 4 -> 5, but most vets would say definitely not worth

[bleak brook]

Yeah, doesn't seem super worth

the 3 shots sounds so nice

[jade iron]

in r1c1 in particular I'd just take a hel rifle or burst cannon in its place I guess

can chip in a lot more on waves

and still put good work in on bigs/hybrids

mostly you wave ranged waveclear, with some kill threat into bigs

[bleak brook]

I really enjoy the burst cannon, since it murders big guys. Does it do area damage or just big single target?

[jade iron]

hel gun, hel rifle, MG's, HAR if that's your thing even

[junior latch]

it shoots 3 bullets in a burst

[serene jewel]

I mean it fires bursts

you used to be able to one burst giants

[junior latch]

you can spread these out on smalls (somehwta reliably getting 2 kills per burst)

[serene jewel]

big sad

[junior latch]

„No“

[bleak brook]

Sorry, i know it is burst firing, I meant to ask if each individual round explodes

[junior latch]

only on client for giant strikers
And on hybrids i guess ye since 22dmg needed like 4 headshots and 1 bs

[bleak brook]

albeit in a small radius

[serene jewel]

ye

[junior latch]

Theres no aoe aside from explosive tripmines no

[serene jewel]

no

[bleak brook]

Ah ok, sorry. It looked like they did

[serene jewel]

It really is a shame we have no aoe weapons

flamethrower or explosive weapons would've been 😩

[bleak brook]

Even weak ones would be neat

[serene jewel]

but probably op

[analog flicker]

I request a sliding trip mine placement under the mother as a plan of attack

[bleak brook]

Just so it doesn't sweep everything super easily

[analog flicker]

[bleak brook]

Also, should we spread out a lot during the waves? Or stay together?

[jade iron]

it's in the motto

work together or die together

[bleak brook]

Big facts actually

[serene jewel]

one of the biggest tips I can give you

find a chokepoint to defend

my personal favorite spot is the hallway with the security door in it

near the hole in the wall next to the bridge

though I think most people defend on the bridge itself

[bleak brook]

The chokepoint we tried 3 times was the double set of stairs at the end of the bridge

[serene jewel]

yeah that is not a good chokepoint

[lusty ibex]

the bridge which have a big vehicle lean backward to the small hole that is best choke point

[bleak brook]

we put turrets on the bottom of the stairs and sat on top

Ok, so find a better chokepoint at a hole in the wall

[serene jewel]

two entrances, elevation makes it more difficult to get headshots and makes them move more erratically, just a bad time

[junior latch]

You dont rly need a „chokepoint“

its moreso a line

[restive cape]

Turrets are best placed either facing that hole in a wall from a distance or in that long hallway behind it iirc

[lusty ibex]

use HEL gun it penetrate many enemies at same times

[junior latch]

the actual hole can be very pressuring on new players

[serene jewel]

yeah just find a place enemies will funnel

[jade iron]

why would you want an enemy running forward to move relative to your reticle?

[serene jewel]

the hole is a bad chokepoint imo, it's not a straight path for the sleepers and again the elevation isn't flat

I'm saying the hallway next to it is good

because it's a clear line of sight

and only one entrance

[bleak brook]

Ah I think I understand now how it should be set up.

[lusty ibex]

can I send u friend request, im looking for asia hosts

[bleak brook]

Sorry, we're not he best at the whole strategy side haha

[serene jewel]

ok

[ripe void]

Man I'm starting to hate randoms

[serene jewel]

randoms deserve to be hated

[serene jewel]

you're bringing three sentries too right

[bleak brook]

yeah

[serene jewel]

uhhh

I hope you're not using the hel auto or shotgun

[bleak brook]

0_0

[junior latch]

its usually held because enemies spawn super close and you just spawnkill asap

[serene jewel]

yeah but I wouldn't recommend it to new players cause of all the things I mentioned

[bleak brook]

umm, those... might be the only ones that we used xD

[ripe void]

Man I carried the whole thing

[junior latch]

That mightve made it a lot harder

[bleak brook]

fr?

[ripe void]

It was r5b1 it was supposed to be pretty easy

[junior latch]

burst sentry is way way way better

at dealing with smalls

[ripe void]

I did the whole thing just to die in the fog

[bleak brook]

So burst and sniper are the best turrest

[junior latch]

(As in actually killing)

[bleak brook]

bet

[ripe void]

They alerted thr giants in the fuck and killed themselves

[serene jewel]

[junior latch]

3 burst sentries and a bio tracker is the general loadout for r1c1

Dont place all 3 sentries immediatly tho

[bleak brook]

That's what I thought is waiting to use sentries would be better

[serene jewel]

I use a sniper with cpu speed but it's probably not better than burst

[bleak brook]

We also only have 3 people

[serene jewel]

why not place all three when they shoot sequentially

[junior latch]

Tool usage

[junior latch]

shouldnt matter too much
A single bot does fine and even cheats with bio tracker

[bleak brook]

bet

[jade iron]

I like a sniper sentry on r1c1

[edgy plover]

Balance between relying on three sentries and shooting yourself. If you rely on sentries too much early on, you'll run out of tool and will get overwhelmed later with bunch of ammo to spare

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[serene jewel]

idk I just plop down all 3 sentries and let them do the heavy lifting

and just remember to take a tool in the beginning

they don't waste ammo too much because again they apparently fire sequentially

they never overkill or aim at the same target if one of them can kill

correct me if i'm wrong

[junior latch]

Also relying on sentries too much makes it so you dont improve your shooting for when you need it

[ripe void]

Let the sleepers live bro

[junior latch]

they dont

[ripe void]

That's where they belong

Deep in the facility

Why do you even bother

[junior latch]

burst sentries cheat by being able to retarget mid burst if something gets killed by first bullet

thats it

[lusty ibex]

but they keep wanting to lick me

[serene jewel]

🤔

[ripe void]

Dogs do that too

[bleak brook]

Also, how do you time having someone run back to the computer to start the next phase?

[serene jewel]

I guess next time I'll place one sentry forward and have the two other ones with us

[ripe void]

You have lots of time

Dw

[junior latch]

if you hold on the bridge
Just have someone run off once the code is given. You have enough time

[serene jewel]

the hallway I mentioned, you can reach the reactor and type the code with ~40s time

[ripe void]

Try putting the code inside the machine in the last seconds

So you are going to buy more time for your friends

To get ready

[serene jewel]

you can press the up arrow when you're on a terminal to re-enter the last command you used, so you can easily just replace the code

[bleak brook]

We started doing this at the end thankfully

[ripe void]

Life saving

Didn't know this works too

[serene jewel]

[lusty ibex]

one run back to terminal, other 3 go get the resources as soon as possible, especially tool refill for sentry

[ripe void]

That one 12 phase terminal uplink secondary

How much time I wasted

[serene jewel]

well

I hope you know that tab auto-completes words too

[ripe void]

I know that one

I've seen both of those mechanics in mc

[junior latch]

You dont especially need tool if you shoot more

dont let yourself be carried too hard by sentry

[serene jewel]

meanwhile me

haha sniper sentry cpu speed go brr

[junior latch]

boosters -> oof

[ripe void]

Meanwhile me
Do mission for 2 hours
Die

[lusty ibex]

its basic coding in high school

[serene jewel]

yeah boosters are cringe, but they're fun

[junior latch]

cpu sentry on busted sniper sentry back in og r7 was funny af tho

[ripe void]

What if you uplink to your own ip

[serene jewel]

it's just satisfying hearing that powerful shot and seeing something die with each shot

[lusty ibex]

then you will see chargers break into your window

[serene jewel]

though I can't crank up the speed too much or it just shoots at bodies and ends up with 0 ammo before a wave ends

[lusty ibex]

like "FBI OPEN UP!"

[ripe void]

I was trying to solo this one giant

And the random alerted the whole room

[serene jewel]

[ripe void]

My health was 20 and I got killed there

So stupid bro

[lusty ibex]

he help the giant escape from raping

[ripe void]

True

[lusty ibex]

from demon like you

[ripe void]

High caliber is so ammo efficient

[lusty ibex]

for big ones only

[ripe void]

2 to the back

[serene jewel]

scatter one to the front

[junior latch]

which isnt rly factored into efficiency

[serene jewel]

waiting to join random lfgs but they're all full

[ripe void]

I onow

I know

The high caliber looks good

And that's it

[analog flicker]

[lusty ibex]

one round can kill the scout

but HEL revolver brings more sastified shot on horde

who agree Arbalist > Verusta in term of machineguns

[analog flicker]

[serene jewel]

eh not anymore because of the weird shadow nerf

[junior latch]

not rly ever lol

[spring pasture]

To complete the achievement for prisoner efficiency, which rundown sector is the best for completing all main, sec, and overload in one run>>?

[edgy plover]

R5A2 probably

Or some early R4 expedition

[spring pasture]

gonna start the r5 then thx :)

[ripe void]

I prefer arbalist

[wispy bluff]

Can't stand veruta's shaking, and the holographic spyglass is messing with me

Arbalist is basically what HAR should've been, just with a spin up

[analog flicker]

[rare stone]

I much prefer Veruta

Arbalist feels too slow and sluggish for me

the extra stagger is also nice

[analog flicker]

HAR is fine.
Arbalist was better prior to reload animation change

[wispy bluff]

I like the new reload

[analog flicker]

It's slower

[rare stone]

haven't played with Arbalist since the change

[wispy bluff]

Old one was lame... I don't even remember what was happening prior. They swapped mag of screen

[analog flicker]

More rather I believe it removed a reload cancel it had

[wispy bluff]

Now for a split second the beauty of the gun is on screen

[analog flicker]

The mag was swapped a long time ago Artek

[wispy bluff]

I get to enjoy that massive barrel

[analog flicker]

The gun shot faster at less dmg back then as well.

[wispy bluff]

You don't understand what i'm saying

I'm rating exclusveiyl the aesthetic feel of the reload

Old one was lame and was happening off screen, nothing to look at

Now it uses same reload as burst cannon and HEL Gun, i believe?

[rare stone]

how do we feel about the Revolver reload change/holding animation change?

[wispy bluff]

The gun is on screen in all its glory to enjoy

[analog flicker]

No it doesn't artek

Similar but not the same reload

[wispy bluff]

A little bit over the top

[rare stone]

I thought it was over the top before lol

although I don't like the holding animation

[analog flicker]

Scuffed but revolver still functions the same nonetheless

[rare stone]

it's more akin to the Hel Revo reload now

which I like

[analog flicker]

As much as the reload looks nicer. It ruins the guns performance on reloads compared to before

[rare stone]

did they change the reload speed?

I thought they only changed the animation

[analog flicker]

Asking for a gun over gun is likely to get answers on performance rather than aesthetic

[analog flicker]

Reload cancel basically got removed with the new animation

[rare stone]

ohhh you're still talking about the Arbalist nvm

thought you were talking about Revolver

[analog flicker]

Revolvers new animation shaved off like

Some milliseconds or smth

But it's negligible

[ripe void]

I like the fact that arbalist is slower

It's like those funny cannons

[edgy plover]

NGL watching new players matchmake A and B tiers and getting dropped into a R8 lobby gives me life

[lost lynx]

newbies in R8B4
imagine

[edgy plover]

Yeee

They should have just disabled matchmaking at this point it's just fucked

[ripe void]

i learned it the hard way

[earnest forge]

I believe R8B4 is not in the "A/B tier" of the matchmakin

Since its target difficulty exceeds the B tier by far

[upper tinsel]

well then why it is called r8b4_

if it isnt in a b tier smh

[earnest forge]

R8 is unique by several aspects. Its difficulty is by design not linear.

[shut vapor]

The levels are meant to reflect the progression of the left hand side

That's why all of the rhs appear harder than their tier

[flat perch]

that right side r8 has some curveballs tier-wise for sure, imho in a very cool way

[shut vapor]

The only ones that really match up are a2 and b3

[flat perch]

in a2 i was about to go bonk a shooter behind a wall.. was just about to charge her as she backed off into a red glowing scan circle.. a2 waaaaat.. 😄

(main done once)

[shut vapor]

A2 is funny like that

[flat perch]

main was cool and secondary was awesome

[shut vapor]

Secondary is just a meme

[flat perch]

||emerging from that z69 door that in a1 was closed and locked.. in tears almost * snif *||

[shut vapor]

So true

That reminds me

||there's a locked door in b1? That never opens or is revisited||

[flat perch]

the terminal command room end?

[shut vapor]

Naw it's like right next to spawn

[flat perch]

hmm interesting

[shut vapor]

I'll DM it to you

[flat perch]

.. confirmed, not finding any corresponding use .. .. unless that is supposed to be the door in ||e2|| .. .. 🙂

[ripe void]

smg 46% scattergun 100% :/

[spark cliff]

hi any Asia regin player rn up ? this is my 1st online game anyone here to play with 😄

[kindred mural]

Just got called toxic for not "chilling"

Was the only one on the team communicating

[little ridge]

I got called a "quitter" for quitting a vc after 10 second I got in without ever having said a word

[kindred mural]

I guess I wasn't very "chill" but it's not easy being the only one trying to keep the team coordinated

Especially when they don't respond and rush, opening up every door they see while an error alarm wave is right around the corner that triggers all the sleeping giants and scouts

Communication is key to everything in this game and idk why some people just refuse to communicate

[grizzled bison]

once i was just trying to be nice and friendly but everyone in my lobby had no mics and anime profile pictures and they literally told me that i was a loser and to k*s

fair warning, if you ever get in a lobby with markiplier, do not play with him

[kindred mural]

[grizzled bison]

most toxic player i've played with

[little ridge]

did he markdivide yet?

[grizzled bison]

you're literally traumatising me right now.

[little ridge]

Is it the anime pfp or the bad humor?

[grizzled bison]

marketplayer

[little ridge]

My name has "beep" in it technically

[kindred mural]

Maybe I got a team like that because it was a B level, was doing R5B2

[grizzled bison]

other user names were BOB and WADE

avoid this trio at all costs

they will down you at the extraction scan

[kindred mural]

I usually get coordinated teams playing on C-D levels

[little ridge]

Bob backwards is still bob...

[kindred mural]

A-B levels have been hit and miss for me

[grizzled bison]

can you stop talking over me im trying to talk here

[little ridge]

🇺🇸 Go on

[kindred mural]

[grizzled bison]

people in this discord are so literally mean

[kindred mural]

Please continue

[grizzled bison]

they keep shouting RULE 7 RULE 7 GET OUT

i do not know what that is!!! let me play the e1.

[kindred mural]

[grizzled bison]

they forced me to do r4b3 1v1 with precision rifle i do not own that weapon i have not unlocked it yet they call me a NOOB player

many people call me PUB im not PUBLIC i live a very private life

i hope this toxicity will not be in the DEN OF WOLVES DOW i am very invested into this company i bought 4 coolers already

[vestal crystal]

Sleepo hold backspace right now, beep is trying to talk here

[grizzled bison]

it just seems so unfair to me as a good looking attractive man to not be able to get into the lobbies of real military veterans

sad!

[green flume]

man I don't even have assault rifle quick pull mag unlocked yet, how can you spoil me with another unlockable weapon

[little ridge]

no

[grizzled bison]

this is literally not about you you are ruining my life

[ripe void]

copy pasta when

[little ridge]

Cyberheist will fix it

[grizzled bison]

can you stop pinging me i'm trying to sleep

[vestal crystal]

tjoma balls

[kindred mural]

@grizzled bison

[grizzled bison]

tjoma balls

[kindred mural]

Your balls hand them over

[kindred mural]

@grizzled bison One more for good measure

[serene jewel]

I've been playing R8B4 the past 4 hours or so

what is this bullshit

[jaunty flame]

Welcome to the club!

[lost lynx]

@true pilot. couldnt be us

[ripe void]

What's the mission about

[true pilot]

its... fun

||defo doesnt have a surge error alarm||

[ripe void]

Can't you make them get stuck

[lost lynx]

haha

[true pilot]

i dont think so

[lost lynx]

stuck he says

haha

[true pilot]

the best you could do is perma foam something

[lost lynx]

funny man

[true pilot]

and even then, there aint enough tool

maybe if you literally had 4, 100% provisions and saved all tool refills

and were fast with getting the stuff

[green flume]

the alarm itself isn't bad, it just the "optimal" spot to defend the wave is not that good because room divider

[sharp owl]

i find it strange that tanks only do 14% damage per lick

their tounges are like 2x the size of giants

but barely stronger than a striker

[wispy bluff]

Devs took mercy on us.

They compensate by having insane range instead

And also there is reduced feedback on when they're gonna attack and who, especially as a client.

[sharp owl]

they should add a parry system

quick shove a tounge attack and you block it

we already have dashes

[rose nova]

if u hve more than 5 enemies the parry will do absolutely nothin cause another attacks, and if its one just shoot it thats ur parry

[sharp owl]

yup

still, it would be interesting

[ripe void]

R2d1 both motion triggered door activating simulator

[wispy bluff]

I mean, they are just expendable mouths that try and take a bite

[ripe void]

No

They wanna give you a smooch

[rose nova]

mwah

[sharp owl]

👨‍❤️‍💋‍👨

[wispy bluff]

If this was a movie there would 100% be a scene where someone blocks one with some object or it bites the weapon and pulls it away

[ripe void]

:V

[sharp owl]

it's a movie alright

[ripe void]

Or feeds him a grenade

[sharp owl]

we have plot armor

[rose nova]

i see it, grabbin an omneco tank and just runs

[sharp owl]

honestly

i wanna just rip a cabinet door off a locker and use that as a riot shield with a pistol

you know it would work

fuck yo projectiles

also

trip mine frisbees

activate them and toss them like a boomerang vertically into waves

[serene jewel]

man

all that time and we couldn't get through it

what a pain

[sharp owl]

what level

[serene jewel]

R8b4

[glacial anvil]

How feasible would it be for me to solo R8A1

[serene jewel]

solo solo or solo with bots

[hoary oxide]

I did mine solo with bots

Well

[burnt flume]

depends how strong/experienced of a player you are

[hoary oxide]

If you're talking about that level, idk

[burnt flume]

with enough experience it's an easy enough clear alone without bots

[serene jewel]

I mean it's an easy level

[burnt flume]

with bots it should still be easy regardless of skill, you just spam sentries

[hoary oxide]

I've started playing today

[serene jewel]

I think an average player can easily solo it

[hoary oxide]

ever since free weekend

I'm a new boi here

[rose nova]

:D

[hoary oxide]

Helo

Bat Enjoyer? Nice

[rose nova]

hell yehhh :3

[burnt flume]

the worst thing you can do is attach your personality solely to a melee or gun in this game

[hoary oxide]

Well yeah

[serene jewel]

except scattergun

[hoary oxide]

Then again, we all have our preferences

[ripe void]

i choose the melee weapon depending on what my team takes

[hoary oxide]

Safe option

[serene jewel]

hey can you actually lower the fog again in R8B4

[upper tinsel]

which part

[serene jewel]

after secondary

apparently you can go back to the start and use the terminal to lower the fog again

[ripe void]

@serene jewel wanna die with me in r2d1

[serene jewel]

I'm playing with another friend rn

[tranquil crow]

If you don't lower fog during first scan, you might be able to. Haven't tried it

[ripe void]

i think schaeffer loves me because he keeps talking to me 🥰

i think hes a voice in my head

does he even exist at this point

[serene jewel]

🍆

[ripe void]

EGGPLANT

[rose nova]

om nom

[lime marsh]

man i jsut got this shit, i finsihed the tutorial and still lost 💀

[spice nova]

How do you do bio scan?

[upper tinsel]

you stand in circles until the door unlocks

[rose nova]

its fineee, everyone does it :3

[void orchid]

What do people call the new charger type enemies in R8

[lusty river]

They are called Nightmares

[hidden path]

Pineapple Striker, Sapling Shooter, Sapling scout, Potato

[ripe void]

nightmare charger

[ripe void]

ive been trying to do r6b1* for one hour

no matches

[lusty river]

Just solo it 😏

[random dune]

sa

mac gelceek varmkı

[crimson cedar]

how to remove the isolation mode at the R8B2 level

[tawny pollen]

how many terminals scans on over r8c1?

7-8-9??

[wispy bluff]

The what?

[ripe void]

me waiting for game to give me turtleneck

[tawny pollen]

how many times terminal scan on overload r8c1>

[upper tinsel]

How many uplinks or?

[upper tinsel]

you need to do 3 total pairs and I believe its 5 codes each?

[tawny pollen]

5 for 1?'

[upper tinsel]

5 codes per 1 pair

[ripe void]

r3a3 isnt as bad as i thought

[upper tinsel]

the amount of codes might be wrong but im sure its 3 pairs

[upper tinsel]

its a fairly easy reactor yeah

[tawny pollen]

15 for full?

[ripe void]

is it normal that the dude spawned without weapons

hes literally walking normaly

that happened when the host left

[upper tinsel]

at least hes not sliding around

and it happens

[sharp owl]

THIS IS

MY FACE WHEN

OBJECT EXTRACTION

WE FORGET OBJECT

[ripe void]

so real bro that happened to us on an A class mission though

we laughed a lot

[sharp owl]

IT WAS

THE FOURTH

ATTEMPT

[upper tinsel]

should have realised

[sharp owl]

i am

[upper tinsel]

classic mistake

[sharp owl]

fucking rarted

oh my god

[pastel rain]

We just played r2b3

The terminal part was quite frantic

Loved it

[upper tinsel]

I believe the next level introduces an fun new thing

[proven garden]

what are overload objectives

[rose nova]

optional objectives but harder
it goes main objective, secondary objective and overload objective, from easiest to hardest

[hallow willow]

hi guys, the password for the secondary in R8A2 is in random terminals of all the rundown or is in specific missions?

[burnt garnet]

It’s in R8B2

I haven’t done it but there’s people here that know what to do to get both parts of the code

[proven garden]

i see

[hallow willow]

omg....we do it without knowing xDDDDDD

[hallow willow]

thanks

[burnt garnet]

Yeah you got to wait 5 minutes at a specific time in secondary which is why it’s missed

[ripe void]

How about prisoner efficiency

[balmy moat]

You can just assume it’s the hardest, since the definition of PE is doing all optional objectives in one run

[ripe void]

Funy

Thank you

[worthy flicker]

I found a lock melter just out on the ground last night

Dunno if that's notable to anyone, I thought stuff only spawned in lockers

[balmy moat]

Consumables can spawn outside of boxes and lockers

You can find other consumables like glowsticks, tripmines on the ground or on pallets

[worthy flicker]

Neat, ty. I'll look around more closely then.

Yeah it was out in the middle of the floor on R1D1, was almost ominous

[grizzled bison]

why 6 was afraid of seven. so real for this.

[unreal crystal]

the house always wins

[nimble crane]

Hello guys, I ran into a problem, I have a low FPS in the game, it doesn’t go above 40, I have an i5-10400f and a gtx 1650 16gb RAM SSD 1 TB, tell me how to fix it!?

[tawny pollen]

gtx 1650)

[nimble crane]

?

[tawny pollen]

need switch

[nimble crane]

what switch?

[earnest forge]

Reduced to 20 seconds now

[balmy moat]

That’s pretty much how it is with this game

You won’t be getting much more than that

[nimble crane]

my friend has a weaker processor than mine, his fps is stable at 60

[proven garden]

is it possible to complete all 3 objectives in a mission?

[rose nova]

yeah always

[lusty river]

😱

[rose nova]

or well i guess the only exception is on r8 sometimes, but u still get the completion

even if u didnt touched some doors and stuff but

on r4 from r7, its always possible

to do all three

[proven garden]

like there's a secondary objective here that's an hsu and dont you need to extract for that

[rose nova]

no, it probs does somethin else

[lusty river]

Ahh the R4A2 level

[rose nova]

and by probs it absolutely does

[proven garden]

yes

[rose nova]

:D

funny funny

[rose nova]

i like the ov on that

[lusty river]

Make sure you have gotten the two cases near the extract before doing Sec and Ovl

[proven garden]

okay then

[frail arch]

Helol

[mystic moss]

what an insane gag

[upper tinsel]

Dont put them in extraction before end of level tho because that might do something else

[balmy moat]

What do you have your CPU culling set to?

[lusty river]

What if I want to do it 😏

[upper tinsel]

Well then something might happen 😔

You might win the lottery
Your pc might combust
or something else

you never know

[proven garden]

order of objectives should be main ovl and secondary then?

still dont know what ovl is

[lost lynx]

overload

[rose nova]

ovl its overload, so the third and hardest optional objective

[lusty river]

Funny overload

R4B2 has funny secondary

[upper tinsel]

nuh uh

Main --> Sec --> ovl

Or i guess you dont need to complete sec first, you just need to get the key from sec and go to ovl

[rose nova]

on r4a2? no, u need ov first

yeah

there it is

[upper tinsel]

No theres no key in ovl?

[rose nova]

yes there is

[upper tinsel]

oh I was thinking ab b2 💀

[balmy moat]

It’s in terminal room

[rose nova]

u go into secondary, theres another bulkhea hub for sec and ov, and u go ov

bruh

[balmy moat]

2 bulkhead keys

[lusty river]

Or

How about

Inserting 2 cells into the wrong zones and get softlocked

🙂

[upper tinsel]

sec was the one with no key in r4a2 right then?

[earnest forge]

Isn't there an additional cell in each side zones ?

[balmy moat]

Does it not return a cell?

Pretty sure it does

[hidden path]

It does

[lusty river]

Does it? I thought wiki said you could get softlocked 💀

[rose nova]

it does

u cant get soflocked pretty sure

[hidden path]

Yeah it does

Don't trust the wiki

[balmy moat]

There are very few levels where you can get softlocked

A2 is not one of them

[upper tinsel]

'Make sure to put the Cell into the correct Generator as there are not enough Cells on the map to power all 3 Generators, potentially softlocking yourself.'

[lusty river]

Wiki lied to my face 😔

[balmy moat]

You never trust a game’s wiki 100%

[upper tinsel]

According to wiki there are only 2 cells but 3 doors :(

[earnest forge]

I could swear there are additional Cells in there, but a quick "LIST CELL" command can easily check it

[hidden path]

You get a cell in first zones

[lusty river]

Someone needs to edit that shit 😭

[earnest forge]

There is one in Main that you do not ultimately need

[hidden path]

You use 1 to go into the cryo alarm

[balmy moat]

There’s also a cell in cryo room

[hidden path]

Each alarm zone has its own cell in case you mess up

Secondary you're given a cell, each zone in Secondary also has its own cell just in case afaik

[lusty river]

Yeah I posted in wiki chat that says that line

[hidden path]

Unless it's the funny bug where a cell doesn't spawn or something

[balmy moat]

No, the only level that has/had cell spawn bug was R4C3

4 vs 5 cells

[earnest forge]

That "cell inside a wall" bug was nasty :'(

[balmy moat]

Eh but at least it spawned

[hidden path]

One if my fav new R8 bugs is the duplicate item in terminals

[earnest forge]

And arguably bots could get it but even then...

[upper tinsel]

Went and checked, there are 5 cells

[earnest forge]

Good to go then

[lusty river]

Thanks

[earnest forge]

You do not need more

[hidden path]

The terminal shows an item in two different zones at once. Even though realistically it's only in one

[proven garden]

sec triggers alarms tho

until extraction

[earnest forge]

Overload does, in R4A2

[upper tinsel]

Yeah I was thinking ab other level

you indeed want to do main --> ovl --> sec

[balmy moat]

It’s cause of the zone names now iirc

[hidden path]

But that happened to me in R5A2

[balmy moat]

Dupe bulkhead key was weird af

[kindred mural]

Secondary and Overload don't trigger error alarms everytime

Depends on the map

[hidden path]

Double keycard

[balmy moat]

Ye the item number and name is the exact same

But that’s rarely happened

[kindred mural]

Some missions have you doing things in completely different orders

[proven garden]

on this one it does because its HSU

[balmy moat]

Pre-R8 bug

[kindred mural]

Like R5B2 has you doing secondary first, overload after and then main last

[hidden path]

The flickering lights bug is also a funny one

And my personal favorite

No music bug

[upper tinsel]

I know, for the 3rd time I was talking ab a different mission :)

[kindred mural]

Oh okay my bad

Been playing all day and fried my brain

[worthy flicker]

Did they recently add achievements?

[hidden path]

After you restart from a level that has an instant error alarm (R2C2, R4E1, R3D1, you name it) music will completely stop after you switch to another level lmao

So the next levels you play will be completely silent lmao

[upper tinsel]

Pretty sure at the launch of r8

[rose nova]

yeh :D

[worthy flicker]

Thanks, was wondering how less then 10 percent of the playerbase has finished a mission, pass or fail.

[upper tinsel]

Yeah it counts old players as well :D

But you only get achievements after they came out so...

[rose nova]

no it doesnt think only the rundown completions

[worthy flicker]

Figured the only way possible was if they got added recently

[rose nova]

cause i got theee complete a main sector

i got after completin a level

not failing it

or maybs im misremembering

[worthy flicker]

There's an achievement for winning and losing

And they're both at like, 7 ish percent of players which felt insanely low

[balmy moat]

Only certain achievements counted prior to R8/achievement release

[worthy flicker]

In other news, the group and I have officially completed R1

[wraith marsh]

nice, did ya like r1d1?

[worthy flicker]

Was easy tbh, after C2

[hidden path]

Now time for R2

[worthy flicker]

Concurred, hoping for new and exciting things

[hidden path]

Good luck when you reach the D tier and E tier