#gtfo-chat

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true pilot
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its worse than the others as it doesnt really hit a lot of shots

normal lake
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this is a very common true solo strat, most of the time having enemies build up in true solo without a mine is a big no no and its easier for some rooms with multiple entrances if you funnel all enemies through one door

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its nowhere near as necessary in a full lobby tho

true pilot
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the only time id use it in a full squad run is if we had 3 sentries

blissful dome
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Simply bring 4 mines for every level

bitter sleet
normal lake
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if you want a sentry run burst sentry

blissful dome
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Yes

normal lake
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its by far the best sentry in the game right now

merry sluice
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Burst Sentry is the only Sentry

normal lake
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occasionally sniper sentry is worth considering but for the majority of the time just do burst

true pilot
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btw how viable is sniper sentry rn? I havent tried it for a while

blissful dome
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Why bring any other tool than bio

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4 bio?

true pilot
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4 bios forever

blissful dome
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All set

bitter sleet
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Well I gotta go for now. I’m going home finally where I can play lol. I’ll post a game soon hopefully someone joins😅🤣

true pilot
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cant lose a run with 4 bios

blissful dome
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Ong

normal lake
normal lake
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on most alarms its wind up time makes it really annoying to use

normal lake
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i dont ever use it other than for situations like that and even then i usually just run burst anyways

true pilot
true pilot
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Ah yes aim better with 15 fucking fps in destination

blissful dome
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Pretty sure theyll still mag dump it if it's not charging so....

normal lake
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another issue i have with sniper sentry is it fucking tks me a lot

blissful dome
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Lmao

true pilot
blissful dome
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Walk in front of sniper sentry

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Die

normal lake
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i like my shotguns i dont like getting blasted in the ass by a sniper sentry while using shotguns

blissful dome
true pilot
true pilot
normal lake
blissful dome
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Am I tripping?

true pilot
normal lake
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gonna be real tho i just cant consider sniper sentrys ability to kill big flyers a bonus

blissful dome
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Wdym penetrate big flyer armor

normal lake
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the enemy is in so few levels

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i also dont know if that bonus is real

blissful dome
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Tbh never encountered it so

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No clue

normal lake
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i cant name a single level its in off the top of my head

blissful dome
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R6cx

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R7c2

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Uhm

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There's five afaik

normal lake
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yeah

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ik ive fought some

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i dont remember them being a real threat tho

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kinda just big ol electric meatballs

blissful dome
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Real

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I remember one just constantly hitting the metal rebar in r6cx

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Oh right

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R7b3

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R7e1

normal lake
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oh yeah r7b3 has the teleport sections for the secondary

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thats right

blissful dome
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Forgot about that

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Lmao

normal lake
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yeah i forgot aswell gawd damn

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still these enemies are not a real threat imo

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honestly fliers in general are not really that big of a deal unless you are me with double shotgun

blissful dome
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Me with hel shotty scatr

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How kill

normal lake
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did a level with one of those teleport sequences where you are harassed by fliers for a minute or two and your objective is survive

blissful dome
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Lmao

normal lake
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i just went basically afk told my team "i got 2 shotguns i cant even hit them"

blissful dome
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I mean

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Might as well pull their aggro for as long as you can

normal lake
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my other friend spent the whole time trying to knife one

blissful dome
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Real

normal lake
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bot was being a bot

blissful dome
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Bring spear for flyers

normal lake
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last friend was the only one being productive

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literally dont think i got hit a single time despite not moving more than 5 steps the whole sequence

blissful dome
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Lmao

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Oh yea

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The r7c2 alpha is funny

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Esp secondary

normal lake
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yeah its fun

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overload in that level is fucking brutal tho

blissful dome
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Strafing simulator

blissful dome
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Honestly we just pulled the first two charger scouts

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Then avoided the last three

normal lake
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for a c tier i find that levels overload to be really fuckin rough

blissful dome
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So...

normal lake
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r7c3 main and secondary aint really a challenge if you are decent at melee

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with a team of decent melee players

blissful dome
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Overload

normal lake
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altho r7c3 overload is def difficult

blissful dome
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Tbf I did do it second try so

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4 man ez

normal lake
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i find it so dumb that there is a checkpoint right before r7c2 secondary

blissful dome
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Tbf

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R7a1 has 2 checkpoints

normal lake
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if you fail the checkpoint you can just go extract and finish the level

blissful dome
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A lot of secondaries/overloads have checkpoints for some reason

normal lake
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no reason to not at the very least try secondary

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its just strange to place the checkpoint directly behind it when the only time you can do secondary is the very end of the level

blissful dome
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I mean sex isn't that hard anyways

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Just a strafing sim

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Can you move left and right

normal lake
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it has a mom blood door in r7c2 secondary right

blissful dome
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Eh

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It's 1 mom

normal lake
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i mean if your blind it can be quite a suprise

blissful dome
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On a c level

blissful dome
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But also checkpoint so

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You can just do it again

normal lake
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yeah

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its one of the weirdest checkpoints in the game since its only purpose is the secondary

blissful dome
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Wait what levels have pmom

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R3d1?

normal lake
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r3d1 is the only one i remember

blissful dome
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R4e1

normal lake
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havent done r4 or r5 e tiers yet

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one of these days tho

lusty river
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R5E1 is my fav E level

blissful dome
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Nahhh

wraith marsh
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r3d1, r4e1, r7d2, r7e1

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tryna think if theres anything else

blissful dome
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Wait d2 has it

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I didn't even notice

wraith marsh
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its sleepin in mom zone

normal lake
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moms side

blissful dome
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Thought it was a mom

normal lake
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i always got the tank side so kek

blissful dome
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Real

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Just pull both

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Ong

wraith marsh
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we only full clear at this point

normal lake
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my team was to incompetant at the time of doing that level

blissful dome
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Real

lusty river
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Doesn’t R5D1 have a pmom

normal lake
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but that was when r7 was only available rundown so most of our experience was in r7 levels

blissful dome
wraith marsh
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oh yeah

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r5d1

blissful dome
lusty river
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It does I think

blissful dome
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I have the memory of a fish

wraith marsh
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its in secondary

lusty river
blissful dome
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Ah right

blissful dome
lusty river
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Yes yes

blissful dome
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Honestly r5e1 with neg bio scan aggressive boosters was funny

normal lake
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one of my friends was falling behind because ive duoed many levels without him so we recently spent like 6 hours catching his ass up in r4 and r6

blissful dome
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Rip

normal lake
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only a few levels left in r4 and r6 left then its on to rundown 5

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insisting on doing levels blind really slows this game down

blissful dome
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What is this rundown order

normal lake
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already done with r1-3, was basically done with r7 when alts started releasing

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r6 is kinda a meme in terms of difficulty so just doing it to get it done

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then its just r4 and r5

blissful dome
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R4 and 5 e are the hardest :D

normal lake
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saving e tiers for last for the most part

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played around in em but havent actually cleared any of them mostly due to lack of a 4th player but at this point we are commited to the trio grind

blissful dome
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Tbh I haven't unlocked any e level besides r7 but I've done some of them

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Which...

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I'm doing the game normally

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I swear

normal lake
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i mean whats your region

blissful dome
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Us

normal lake
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i wouldnt mind for the e tiers

blissful dome
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:D

normal lake
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but it might be awhile before it happens kek

blissful dome
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Rip

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My fav r5e1 memory is someone getting snatchered during an s class

normal lake
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im capped to playing at the speed of my friends

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cant make progress without doing it as a group for the most part

blissful dome
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Just lfg

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:D

normal lake
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nah saving the experiences for the group ive been playing with since day one

blissful dome
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Fair

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I duo with someone but their framerate isn't nearly good enough to play literally half the levels

normal lake
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i get it

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been there done that

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gtfo with a bad pc is rough

crude bay
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You get used to it

normal lake
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Not counting e tiers which i plan on doing last i have 4 levels left in r4, 8 levels left in r5, 4 levels left in r6,

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thats all i got left of gtfo

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fuckin getting there

crude bay
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You will get there one day 🔥

normal lake
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oh yeah and r7c2 ovl lmao

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havent attempted it in a long time

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prob should

blissful dome
normal lake
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isnt that the bug that basically just instantly fails your run

blissful dome
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Well

normal lake
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enemies stop moving, stop spawning, and you cant extract

blissful dome
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We were trying to get it for the memes

balmy moat
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There is a fix

blissful dome
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Which is why they hosted

balmy moat
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2 fixes, actually

blissful dome
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Checkpoint

balmy moat
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I haven't been able to get clips, unfortunately

blissful dome
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It was funny

normal lake
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we got that in r2d2 unintentionally and it killed our run at i think 8 or 9/10 codes

blissful dome
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I have like one/two clips

normal lake
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was so fucking tilted

balmy moat
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5 scout room

blissful dome
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Ah

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I can see that

normal lake
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we woke up i think 2 of the scouts

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we would have been fine wasnt really a big deal

lusty river
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Me in r2d2 entering a side zone and the security door closes behind me yellcat

blissful dome
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Gtfo once again being fine

normal lake
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we didnt go back to the level for 6 months after that

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literally got my first clear on r2d2 a few weeks ago

blissful dome
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Real

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I swear I saw chargers on one of my r2d2 runs but

normal lake
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ended up beating the map twice in one night

blissful dome
normal lake
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first run was r2d2 as a duo for shits and giggles and we actually beat the map

blissful dome
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Reactr

normal lake
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then other friend joined in and was like damn i still aint got the clear

lusty river
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R1-2 are overrated, haven’t seen much posts for R3 or R7 😭 am starting to forget what’s on those lvls

normal lake
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r3 other than d1 is boring af

blissful dome
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R3 is borin

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Just wow

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In fact

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Mother

lusty river
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Snooze festtttt

blissful dome
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Also infection becaus

wraith marsh
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till d1

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c1 is also somewhat spicy

normal lake
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r3c1 is prob my least favorite level in the entire game for a variety of reasons unless we count r7d1 fuck that level

lusty river
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R3A1 speedrun when

blissful dome
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Real

wraith marsh
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r4c2 and r5d1 are the

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universal worst levels in this game

blissful dome
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Also tf is the time between r5b3 charger waves

lusty river
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R4C2 when you have to walk back and forth 💀

wraith marsh
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a while

blissful dome
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I swear I waited for the waves longer than the rest of the level

lusty river
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Ngl Idk what the B tiers for R5 are since I never really played those missions

normal lake
lusty river
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R5C1 is my 13th reason

blissful dome
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B4 is fine

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Real

lusty river
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Especially with randoms when they attempt secondary

junior latch
normal lake
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im gonna beat every level in gtfo but if you ask me anything about 90% of the levels i wont know a fucking thing about it

lusty river
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😆

lusty river
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Is there like bosses in that one

normal lake
lusty river
normal lake
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literally only remember d tier in r2

lusty river
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Surely you remember R2B2

normal lake
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nothing

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i remember nothing

blissful dome
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Shooter hell?

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Idr

lusty river
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Nah shooter hell was R1B2

blissful dome
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Ah fuck

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Giant hell?

lusty river
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Yus

blissful dome
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Spitr

normal lake
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yeah i dont remember the level

lusty river
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I still remember R5C2 and one of the randoms would use their hel revo instead of their sniper against the snatcher

blissful dome
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Giants

normal lake
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i also dont remember anything in r3 excluding r3c1 which i remember for being cringe and bad and r3d1 for pmom

bitter sleet
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Ok I’m back home and ready to play lol

lusty river
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R3A1 just resuscitate your neonate

blissful dome
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Spitter

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Scan

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Extract

lusty river
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I forgot which R3 mission had that class 7 apex door but it could be a different rundown

normal lake
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i did r4 a tier literally less than a week ago and dont remember the levels

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i think i have dementia

lusty river
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It’s okay I forget things too

lusty river
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Oh bet

blissful dome
normal lake
lusty river
blissful dome
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Carry trainings

lusty river
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Failed training too

bitter sleet
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I posted. I believe i did it right. Lol

normal lake
normal lake
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might take awhile to get a lobby of 4 just a warning tho

bitter sleet
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Cool. Hopefully I’ll get someone on here soon ish😁

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It’s ok lol. If I get 3 we can play a couple Rundowns

normal lake
bitter sleet
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Yeah we’ll see. I’m not super picky but who know maybe I’ll find my squad here😜🤣

lusty river
wraith marsh
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not a gun issue then

normal lake
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needing mods to beat levels is a skill issue, its qol or nothin

lusty river
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Yeah true it was just a him issue

normal lake
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skip intro best mod tho

lusty river
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Not saying it’s bad to use the hel revo but if you had a sniper, why not take advantage of that yk

lusty river
normal lake
wraith marsh
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cuz its a huge ammo dump

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sniper gets no benefit beyond 1 shot staggering it

normal lake
lusty river
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I guess so 😔

wraith marsh
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you can stagger it with hel revo fine

normal lake
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ima stick with my safety stagger

blissful dome
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Backshot it with scatter

wraith marsh
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I would probably shoot it once with sniper and then mag dump hel revo

lusty river
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Problem was he didn’t stagger it so I was like SCscrem

wraith marsh
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its just not inherently incorrect

normal lake
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stagger imo is top priority to save hp but yeah after that its all about killin the bitch

blissful dome
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Stagger it with hell auto pp

wraith marsh
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stagger multi doesnt work on snatcher

blissful dome
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Fuck

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Second option

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Die

normal lake
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also used a scattergun on a snatcher for the first time recently, had bots with me and i dont think ive ever seen a fuckin snatcher get one cycled

blissful dome
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Lmao

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Use scatter more

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It's funny

normal lake
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ive devolved into literally only using shotguns

blissful dome
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Real

normal lake
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shotguns are the only true gtfo playstyle

blissful dome
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True play is to somehow miss with scatter

normal lake
blissful dome
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Npnp

normal lake
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alright well i got a ungodly amount of school work to do

blissful dome
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Hf

normal lake
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college is pain

blissful dome
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Oh fun

serene jewel
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so you guys were right

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the scattergun is braindead easy to use

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just the "I want you to die" two tap

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probably not a good idea to run hel shotgun with it tho lol

mystic moss
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a certain person would say otherwise

wraith marsh
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"person"

silk blade
serene jewel
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someone told me it was shit and made me swap off it

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but I changed back to it before they started

blissful dome
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Real

wispy bluff
blissful dome
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It's fun to sit there and watch someone miss a sleeper with a choke mod

serene jewel
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you mean run at them charging your melee so they are in effective range

blissful dome
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YES

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THATS SCATRGUN GAMIN

modern coral
serene jewel
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by which I mean I can do it twice

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it was worth it alone just for all the "how the fuck did you one shot that" reactions

modern coral
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It does have large damage.

pine root
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Haha

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lets go

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conveting one gtfo player at a time

serene jewel
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it feels like shit to use outside of that situation though

pine root
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what do you mean?

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what situation are you in that it feels bad

normal lake
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0 effort

pine root
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yup

silk blade
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But yeah scattergun is not that versatile

serene jewel
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are there many bigs in R2D1

gusty burrow
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But if you're planning on meleeing in the stealth zones then the hybrids alone probably aren't worth bringing a dedicated big-killer

pine root
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wake up everything there will be enough bigs then

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two voices inside of every gtfo player. give in to the jish voice

analog flicker
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What level actually has the most giants?

wispy bluff
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THE most?

analog flicker
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I should say the most potential giants given. R5E1 scout spawns can be avoided

wispy bluff
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There are giant alarms, surely? That makes them potentially infinite.

analog flicker
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I suppose.

wraith marsh
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its r5e1

analog flicker
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Hmm

wraith marsh
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easily

wispy bluff
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What if sleeping ones only

analog flicker
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Probably still r5e1

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Having done it the normal way like 3-4 times the past week

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I just never cared to see if there was any other level with potential for more giants

wraith marsh
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r7c3 might win? but I doubt it

analog flicker
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I wanna say R6C2 ext for Hybrids specifically

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But I could be wrong (next to depends how quick and effectively your team can push/defend to extract

wraith marsh
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r5e1 regular path just has so many

pine root
hot tendon
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anyone down to show a noob the ropes?...asking for a frend 🫠

rose nova
gusty burrow
bitter sleet
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Wow that was fun. Did most of Rundown 1 today😁😁😁

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Thanks to everyone who helped and played with me😁😁😁

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It was very very very fun😁😁😁

pine root
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But no giants

analog flicker
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R5B2 has the bbc errors iirc

mystic moss
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how can you blatantly lie

analog flicker
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I don't remember which level it is

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I did all of R5 out of order ngl

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same with R4

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Ok

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Nvm It was R5B1

pine root
analog flicker
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iirc. I did a run where we did both bbc error doors

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and realized afterwards what we did

visual remnant
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hi, is this the right place to ask noob questions? If so then I wanna ask what is the purpose of the Knife and Bat in this game? Because my group has been completing some rundowns so far with either the Hammer or Spear and found no issues with them

rose nova
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knifes very much a melee combat, its super fast, requires headshots and uses no stamina so if u wake up one two rooms u can kill em no dmg and fast; problem with it is giants, basically only useful for the first hit since itll be the only one that staggers

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bats a small hammer, fast, staggers a lot, and kills with medium dmg, so can kill from the back strikers and kill a giant a bit more reliable
its basically kinda a coop weapon, to run in to stagger if a room wakes up, stagger abig if someone didnt... its not a lot of dmg to an enemy but it is a bit faster

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basically havin, 3 hammer and one of htese two its ok, if u go 4 hammers like thats perfectly fine too

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2 or 3 of these melees tho need more coop for giants, scouts [both only kill it from the back of the head] and all that

visual remnant
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we've been always having 2 hammers 2 spears every rundown and yeah it's very easy with giants/big shooters but rather hard to deal with hordes

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so I guess knife and bat should be preferably used for stealth and require more precision with non-stealthy combat right? And it seems the knife also makes less noise when breaking locks

analog flicker
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all melee weapons can be used for stealth

rose nova
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spears ok for stealth, since it has very long range, and knife for its reduced chance aggro [meaning killin enemies with others glowin less probable to wake up]
but really hammers kinda the best, cause of its big dmg that allows u more zones to like hit without worryin, the rest r kinda limited for headshots

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but they all can be used

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yeah

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knife does make less noise for locks too

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but its mosstly for combat

analog flicker
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spear is great. but it pales in speed compared to everything else

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primarily movement speed when charging

rose nova
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if u want like more movements for hordes, maybs 3 hammers one knife/bat or just 4 hammers

visual remnant
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oh sorry for misleading grammar, but yeah I know all melee weapons are for stealth but what I meant is the knife and bat are specifically better for stealth while being worse at non-stealth combat

rose nova
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nah knifes really made for combat

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and bat its as good as hammer kinda, just needin more heashots and with a faster charge

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spears the only one not made for combat

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since u cant sprint with it

visual remnant
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i see

analog flicker
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Knife doesn't consume stamina and can dispatch striker/shooters pretty well if you move well and hit heads

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Spear gets shit on a lot because of it's slower sprint speed while charging

visual remnant
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i always carry a hammer and my group never uses anything other than the hammer and spear because of the damage so I'm just wondering why knife and bat exist and maybe I'll try bringing them next time

wraith marsh
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variety

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there is no practical reason to use anything but hammer in the game rn

analog flicker
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Hammer can just do everything

rose nova
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hammers just too powerful but theres a niche said for knife

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cause of its stamina and fast charge

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the other two...

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as much as i like bat its just, a faster less dmg hammer

analog flicker
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Knife is ok until you face chargers/giants

rose nova
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but on combats very good, so 3 hammers one knife its a powerful combo

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plus u can do chargers

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u just need, luck skdmksmd

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i guess

visual remnant
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haha

rose nova
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needs two in the back or three in the front, full chargers

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at least bat staggers it

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on the second hit

visual remnant
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well it seems to me there's a big gap between weapons in this game. Not really balanced I guess. Even the guns have big gaps in their stats

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I found a gun tier list the other day, saw the DMR as the worst gun and tried using it. It was really garbage compared to things like HEL revolver or Carbine. Idk if I'd ever have any reason to use it

rose nova
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bruh

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dmrs up there with some of the best tbh

wraith marsh
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thats just confirmation bias

rose nova
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like yeah headshots on striker its not a oneshot but with any dmg oost it is

wraith marsh
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dmr is very good

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most of the stat related gun gaps in this game are gone at this point

rose nova
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plus with a team u headshots, and thats it someone else with an auto kills it

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all the guns r pretty balanced

wraith marsh
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the gun gaps in this game are mostly role related and just pen being busted

rose nova
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its perfectly usable

wraith marsh
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ars not even that far behind

blissful dome
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fair

rose nova
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its not the smg on past rundowns or somethin

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its perfetly fine, if not a bit below anythin else

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just cause everything grew

analog flicker
visual remnant
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I should experiment more i guess, after all I'm a newbie haha

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but some guns really don't work for me

wraith marsh
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I am genuinely surprised to hear dmr at the bottom

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wonder who made that one

rose nova
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thats why i dont like tier lists, every weapon in this game its usable and has a niche, it sjust hard to rank em based on how flexible they are

rose nova
wraith marsh
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dmr hasnt been changed in ages

rose nova
blissful dome
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uhuh

rose nova
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u can try negatin me i wont change my views lol

blissful dome
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uhuh

wraith marsh
#

it has a not useful niche

visual remnant
wraith marsh
#

its good at its job

rose nova
#

lol

thick temple
rose nova
#

someone wasnt hittin headshots

wraith marsh
#

its the exact same

rose nova
#

just with more dmg less total ammo and more mag lol

analog flicker
#

The only gun that's got good ammo efficiency but pretty insane skill requirement is dtr imo

rose nova
#

but yeah if u dont like a gun, specially in the secondaries aka the special weapons, it just had a niche or a use that wasnt met

analog flicker
wraith marsh
#

ngl I dont think dmr even feels that bad to body

#

3 shot, staggers every hit

#

4 kills a mag

#

you blow through ammo but

#

most ppl do that anyways

rose nova
#

if u use it like that u just yeah run out super fast of ammo

#

i miss a lot of headshots i am bad an i use a lot of weapon

#

but on the last run i had with dmr

#

i had like 33% on a wave, when usually i am left with 60 50% with other guns

#

but thats my skill issue

lusty river
#

Did they buff rifle at all? It doesn’t feel good rn imo

analog flicker
#

what

wraith marsh
#

nerfed

blissful dome
#

rip

wraith marsh
#

the changes werent much tho

analog flicker
#

Rifle's nerf did hardly anything to affect it's performance

rose nova
#

just like from 16 to 14 on mag

#

but its still super solid

analog flicker
#

-3m range and lost some mag size

rose nova
#

basically a pistol but with more range and dmg i think

lusty river
#

I see

rose nova
#

it just needs a bitof headshots, not as much as dmr

#

but it helps a lot

#

and it staggers a fuck

#

ton

analog flicker
#

4.64 vs 5.08

#

pistol dmg vs rifle dmg

visual remnant
lusty river
#

What about prec bonus

rose nova
#

that too some guns value heashots a ton more than others

analog flicker
rose nova
#

like a sniper vs a shotgun

wraith marsh
#

but generally speaking, most guns have the same precision

analog flicker
#

Front body 1x
Back angle 2x

#

back angle 2x also applies on top of headshot multi

wraith marsh
#

(back not affected by precision unless its back of head)

#

back damage kinda complicated as well but you dont really need to learn about that

rose nova
#

u odnt really use guns differently between enemies tho unless its A chargers B giants or D some other spoiler enemy that plays way differently

#

i guess shadows too cause aiming at the head its hard

rose nova
#

that too

lusty river
#

Like I used the rifle on r6cx but I feel like I used it on the wrong mission HZ_Think_Rimiko

visual remnant
# rose nova like a sniper vs a shotgun

yeah it was cool when my group found out that the sniper could oneshot kill a giant. Since then the one bringing sniper in my group has always yelled "don't you dare popping its head! Keep it for me" lol

rose nova
#

so real

#

i am the guy who just doesnt care and shoots it

#

i like the sniper but i dont nab it a lot

#

i prefer other guns cause i cant aim so

#

scattergun, burst cannon...

wraith marsh
#

huh

visual remnant
#

he always yells when he sees a giant walking without its head through his scope ICANT

sharp siren
#

Sniper gives so much relieve to a struggling team

wraith marsh
#

intentionally aiming for the harder to hit part of the giant when it has no benefit

blissful dome
#

run at it

#

dont die

rose nova
lusty river
blissful dome
#

:D

rose nova
#

smh

analog flicker
#

sniper is one of the few weapons with a over 1x precision. (basically double damage on weakpoints)

blissful dome
#

wow

#

bat user

visual remnant
#

yeah I know it works but snipers love oneshotting enemies

rose nova
gusty burrow
blissful dome
gusty burrow
#

idk tho just something I heard

sharp siren
#

Slendin sayinf he cant aim

blissful dome
#

false

sharp siren
#

Meanwhile aims at the giants head on purpose

blissful dome
#

hel rifle?

#

aim at head

#

wdym

wraith marsh
#

making invisible head for my pr player 😄

sharp siren
wraith marsh
#

wait

#

does it actually show up

rose nova
sharp siren
wraith marsh
#

thats fucking awesome

rose nova
#

so it jusst blows up

thick temple
#

no

wraith marsh
#

idk ive used pr once and hated it

gusty burrow
#

I believe it does not Chill, unfortunately

wraith marsh
#

sadge

sharp siren
#

I use obscure game bugs thst give me barely any advantage to feel superior

rose nova
#

:[

visual remnant
rose nova
#

so real

wraith marsh
#

I LOVE obscure mechanics

rose nova
#

i love not spoiling myself dont do that

#

it stinky

blissful dome
#

ong

gusty burrow
sharp siren
#

I shoot the neck of a giant to blow his upper half then use sniper to shoot the invisible head

blissful dome
#

real

wraith marsh
#

unironically useful callout when meleeing and missing head

visual remnant
blissful dome
#

'

#

?

rose nova
#

i read em every blue moon and just, die forgettin how to deal with em

visual remnant
#

still a lot more to go

rose nova
#

nice nice

#

r2c tiers get funny

sharp siren
#

Hes a neonate still

blissful dome
#

nice

visual remnant
#

but we're doing everything in order, no skipping

rose nova
#

so goodluck !

#

oh

#

ohhh

blissful dome
#

ohno

#

ohno

rose nova
#

the d tiers oh no

blissful dome
#

r2e1

#

ohno

rose nova
#

ur gonna regret not skippin when u get stuck

sharp siren
#

No

rose nova
#

qwq

sharp siren
#

Let him actually see things and not skip

gusty burrow
#

They got past R1C1, don't worry about them we got some gamers on our hands

blissful dome
#

difficulty be like

visual remnant
#

don't worry, we got stuck at R1C1 for like... 10 tries but still managed to complete it with a very complicated strat lol

thick temple
blissful dome
#

yea

wraith marsh
#

still sad that the r7 enemy is ruined now for ppl going in order

visual remnant
blissful dome
#

just do r7 first

wraith marsh
#

im glad they added it elsewhere but

rose nova
#

r1c1 reconnect yeah

blissful dome
wraith marsh
#

its still sad

visual remnant
blissful dome
#

thats what they all say

visual remnant
#

that's the person who tried using the DMR, didn't shoot heads and said it was trash...

blissful dome
#

ahem sledi ahem

visual remnant
#

because he literally can't aim heads

blissful dome
#

fair

rose nova
visual remnant
#

imagine playing a shooter game with high sens and mouse acceleration

thick temple
#

just gotta embrace the lack of being able to hit heads and just use guns that it doesn't really matter

rose nova
#

me using 60% precision rifle and gettin 4 kills

blissful dome
#

lies

blissful dome
#

me choosing to defend charger error with scatter

#

real

#

best anti charger weapon

wraith marsh
#

mouse sens does not matter for shooting skill and accel is a crime

#

👍

thick temple
#

what dpi do you guys play with

sharp siren
#

Default

gusty burrow
blissful dome
#

whatever my mouse is on

wraith marsh
#

so true

sharp siren
#

Imagine microing how your mousr move

wraith marsh
#

I just know anyone who gets on my computer complains my sens is low as fuck

thick temple
#

imagine thinking this is microing and not just curiosity

blissful dome
gusty burrow
thick temple
#

i ask cause my friend plays with i think like 700 or something and i'm over here on 3500 and he was baffled by how little i need to move to 360 in game

wraith marsh
#

let me go check what mine is

#

I actually dont know

blissful dome
#

how tf do you even check dpi

sharp siren
#

What the fuck is a DPI 🗣️🗣️

gusty burrow
#

Before the sens conversation continues, please note that inches for 360 is the only good way to compare sens

thick temple
#

depends on your mouse brand i think
idk how you'd check if you don't have a specific software thing

blissful dome
#

real

thick temple
#

who tf out here measuring how far their mouse moves in inches

wraith marsh
#

im just googling the mouse default lol

lusty river
#

1 and a half mouse lifts for me to 360

blissful dome
#

somewhere between 0 and 2 mouse lifts for 360

thick temple
#

beautiful standardized units thank you guys

blissful dome
#

np

visual remnant
thick temple
#

what did you do with all your wave warmup time in the later waves

visual remnant
#

i've seen people solo doing it quite easily on youtube so I think what we did was a lot of effort but well it worked

thick temple
#

don't believe the youtube solo propaganda

#

or try their strat yourself

sharp siren
visual remnant
sharp siren
#

Coop settups are actually quite simple to pull off

lusty river
#

You can defend 2 rooms away from the reactor room. Gives you more time to collect stuff

blissful dome
#

defend at spawn

#

wdym

visual remnant
lusty river
#

🤣

blissful dome
#

ong

#

r2d2 spawn defence

thick temple
#

love setups that maximize backtracking

blissful dome
#

r5b1 sec spawn defend

sharp siren
visual remnant
wraith marsh
#

is there a lot of 4 man clear vids for early rundowns

blissful dome
#

probably

wraith marsh
#

thought there was mainly r4+ if even

sharp siren
thick temple
#

i'd imaging there are more for like r1a1 and stuff than later levels

wraith marsh
#

I could but they wouldnt be helpful to new ppl lmao

blissful dome
#

real

mystic moss
#

just watch captain alpha's guide videos

sharp siren
wraith marsh
#

show them the best way to play the game early

gusty burrow
unreal crystal
#

Watch him circle kite r4d2 shadow error

#

really informative

thick temple
#

Where did captain alpha go

sharp siren
#

Payday

#

Gtfo dead game

thick temple
#

Yeah
We still here though

lusty river
wraith marsh
#

r7d2 exists, this game will never die

#

😭

visual remnant
mystic moss
#

why is everyone allergic to the bridge hold

blissful dome
#

just hold the better choke

sharp siren
#

Its literally a gift

#

Big bridge infront of a literal hole in the wall where enemies funnel perfectlt for the team

#

99% go nah

lusty river
#

Me waiting for the 1%

blissful dome
#

but

#

also

#

why make it easier

lusty river
#

Lol

#

Gotta make it exciting

sharp siren
#

I mean its not even a 1% thing

#

You kinda just look at your surroundings

shut vapor
lusty river
blissful dome
#

hmmm

normal lake
pine root
shut vapor
normal lake
normal lake
shut vapor
#

800 is a good value smh

wraith marsh
#

im on 1600, 0.5 sens in game

normal lake
#

holy fuck i just set mine to 800 and this shit is sooo slow lmfao

shut vapor
#

The best way to play gtfo: 800 dpi, 1x sens, 55 fov, motion blur on

balmy moat
#

Some mouse sensors operate best in a specific DPI range, usually above 2400

#

The range is roughly 2k-4k

shut vapor
#

I would literally lose my cursor if it was above 1800

balmy moat
#

Higher-end mouse/gaming mice usually specify

normal lake
#

i have 3 dedicated dpi settings, 1600 for when im in bed, 3200 for games like gtfo, 6400 for daily driving

normal lake
#

i can tolerate the rest of that

#

but motion blur is for fuckin psychopaths

balmy moat
#

I play with motion blur LOL

#

I don't usually change settings at all except when turning that shit up

shut vapor
#

It looks too static if motion blur is off

wraith marsh
#

motion blur and bloom -> 0 immediately after booting any game

normal lake
#

i open a new game and instantly motion blur gets turned off

#

that shit makes me sick

#

and it just looks so bad

balmy moat
#

Motion sickness?

shut vapor
sharp siren
normal lake
sharp siren
#

Way better with motion blur off

normal lake
#

like i said tho its hard on wrist so i lowered it

sharp siren
#

And it also depends on your setting of motion blur

shut vapor
#

You'd see better on lower fov

sharp siren
#

Some mild blur tes thats fine

shut vapor
#

:')

sharp siren
#

But if you have puke diahrrea

#

Where a little turn makes everything just like a toilet bowl then no

normal lake
#

why make such nice crisp lines look blurred and shit when you turn you camera

shut vapor
#

I can't see shit irl by default so I'm just mimicking that in game

normal lake
#

my vision is already mimicked because i still have to look at the monitor and squint to read 8s and 0s

shut vapor
serene jewel
#

I have all the hud scaling on max and I still can't read the text well, specially numbers

blissful dome
#

lmao

thick temple
#

The font and it being small enough that the 8s and 0s look the almost same if you don't look closer is strange for sure

normal lake
#

ironically if they just didnt put the line through the 0 it wouldnt be a issue

#

its not often you would confuse a 0 for an O in this game so there isnt much reason behind the line in the 0

thick temple
#

I feel like there would definitely be more confusion than you're claiming
Maybe still less than 0/8 confusion but I do think it would be there

rigid sky
#

i need two tyeammates

#

preferbaly newbies

balmy moat
rigid sky
#

thank you

junior latch
blissful dome
#

normal measurement wdym

#

better measurement is lifts per 360

trim sail
visual remnant
#

I forgot the link but yeah someone put DMR as D-tier 💀

trim sail
#

hel revolver and carbine both excel at close - near medium range. DMR excel at medium - long range

earnest forge
#

It has kind of a long range for a Sawed-off Shotgun

#

In its current state, the Sawed-off Shotgun has become quite reliable ; I enjoy it a lot

junior latch
junior latch
#

legit more range than standard shotty (tho i gotta say the sound design makes that one have more of an omph feel wise)

blissful dome
#

autopp?

junior latch
#

AR

#

hel pp is niche as frick but it does its actual job well
Its just not a good job

So i have it slightly above
Same for bullpup (but bullpup output is actually fine, its just oof for reload and no prec hits)

serene jewel
#

someone convince me to use hel gun again when the hel rifle exists

junior latch
#

Hel gun (as of rn) is a high skill requirement weapon to use effectively

Hel rifle is rather simple and better for chargers

trim sail
#

Hel gun has a smaller mag ?

junior latch
#

i edited the wrong word KEKW

#

thx

little ridge
#

Noone would say that Sniper is a bad weapon but that's not a good reason to get 4 of them

#

Weapons dont exist in a void and the composition of the team's loadout matters

trim sail
#

*me taking 4 snipers in r4e1 feeling shame...

little ridge
#

There's some weapons that are, IMHO, versatile enough to get 4-stacked in most circumstances

#

4 Carbine's fine for example

#

or 4 hel revs

#

but those are mains

trim sail
#

4 hel rifiles in r5e1 maybe

little ridge
#

Ah I'm sure someone will be bored enough to do r4e1 extreme with 4 auto pps just to "prove me wrong" :^)

trim sail
#

can i ask what is auto pps ?

balmy moat
trim sail
#

it all boils down to the point that no gun is the worst, it's just the way you make use of it

#

there's still some exceptions, like some levels do require specific weapons...

junior latch
#

and there is a „worst gun for a situation“

wicked solstice
#

the worst gun is my favorite gun

#

sigh

#

please buff AR tyvm

wispy bluff
#

One can hope, i'm curious how they will bring it up to level

#

(i hope its damage)

wicked solstice
#

2.9 would help

trim sail
#

|| remove the AR so it won't be brought up in any guns comparison PirateSimon ||

wicked solstice
#

NO

#

MY BABY

sharp siren
#

Just make it do burst rifle damage

#

It would be 2.3 i think?

wicked solstice
#

I like the 2.9 route because it makes it 1+5 and 2+3

#

Does 2.3 break any threshold?

wispy bluff
#

Honestly yeah, i always wondred why burst rifle is just a better gun, and not just the same thing in burst fire configuration

wicked solstice
#

Well burst rifle takes skill, but that shouldn’t be an excuse

junior latch
#

thats 2.71

Or you mean smth else?

wispy bluff
#

2.1875 x 0.8x
vs
2.71 x 0.8667x

wispy bluff
#

a whole 0.5 extra damage, my god

#

23% more damage per bullet

wicked solstice
#

i mean if we want AR to be more powerful, that’s the way to go to give it a niche

junior latch
wicked solstice
#

huh

#

still like 2.9 better

junior latch
#

yes

wispy bluff
#

Honestly yeah - just... Just copypaste burst stats onto it. Maybe you can skip out on precision, so that burst had SOME selling point to it before it become the new worst gun

wicked solstice
#

what why

junior latch
#

2.3 ar would still not be great rly

wicked solstice
#

Burst is still really good if you can aim

#

I cannot

#

I still like br but I’m shit with it

junior latch
#

burst rifle might not reach top 4 but imo its easily in the spots after

wispy bluff
#

Unless we nerf recoil while at it - AR might risk just replacing the burst rifle, because its just easier to use while doing same things

#

The only selling point of burst at that point would be...

wicked solstice
#

WHAT

wispy bluff
#

Well, burst, really. It spits them bullets very fast, so its kinda like a fire rate increase.

wicked solstice
#

oops caps

#

But like at that point it just comes down to personal preference honestly

wispy bluff
#

I don't know, would the increased (hypethetical) fire rate of Burst Rifle be enough of differentiator?

#

It doesn't help that i don't remember the RoF of AR, but in my memory its kinda on the slowish side.

wicked solstice
#

Literally if AR is at 2.9, it takes 1 headshot plus 5 bodyshots to kill. Burst rifle kills in either 1 head burst or 2 body bursts iirc

#

Like BR will be more efficient but AR has more ammo

#

Literally a personal preference

#

Ar is just kinda worse SMG rn

junior latch
#

BR does not kill in 1 hs burst or 2 bs bursts

wicked solstice
#

Wait really

#

I stg

wispy bluff
#

Nope

wicked solstice
#

huh

wispy bluff
#

Its head + body for a reliable kill

wicked solstice
#

Wait there’s no way, what

wispy bluff
#

You're confusing it with Double Tap Rifle, probably

wicked solstice
#

welp i’m tripping ig

#

Nah

#

I never use DTR

#

And I know that’s a 1 burst

junior latch
#

2,71x6 isnt above 20 d4rkevBlank

#

for bs

wicked solstice
#

ohhhh i know what it is

junior latch
#

and for hs you cant do it in 1 burst unless client

wicked solstice
#

I was getting behind sleepers

wispy bluff
#

Anyway, i think i'm sold. Just copypaste BR stats onto AR (damage and prec, that is) and i think we'll be fine for a while, but i wouldn't mind seeing some other interesting ideas.

wicked solstice
#

what no don’t copypaste hello

sharp siren
wicked solstice
#

just give AR damage boost and maybe less ammo to compensate for higher dmg

junior latch
wicked solstice
#

Blank dragon (he forgor)

sharp siren
#

I literally did the gun steam guide like 2 days ago and i forgot

wispy bluff
sharp siren
#

I cant say the r word

wicked solstice
#

Recoil

junior latch
#

range

sharp siren
#

I have re-coil in my head

wicked solstice
#

Inb4 Hel Gun recoil nerf

junior latch
#

inb4 hel gun charge up nerf

sharp siren
#

0.3 > 0.7

junior latch
#

0.3 > 3

sharp siren
wicked solstice
#

bruh no

wispy bluff
#

Weasley will be so mad

sharp siren
wicked solstice
#

It’s already dead

#

Man I hate those charge nerfs

#

Like it’s still strong but it just feels shitty to use

#

Not that I could use it effectively

wispy bluff
#

Solution:

#

unnerf charge, nerf damage

#

oh, i don't know... 14?...

junior latch
#

nerd dmg has basically the same effect

#

its gonna be shit vs chargers

wicked solstice
#

that will also make the gun unfun

junior latch
#

worse vs giants

silk blade
#

I had a dream that r8 released without warning

wicked solstice
#

The 0.2 charge was fine

wispy bluff
#

Yeah...

junior latch
#

people cope hard when they say the breakpoint nerf wouldnt matter

wicked solstice
#

That felt fine

#

I got used to it

junior latch
#

0.2 was still rly fucking strong but people already didnt play it much because it takes skill to get used to (same for 0.1 tbh)

silk blade
#

And added some kind of 4 shot handgun that shot 4 bullets in a square shape at the same time

junior latch
wicked solstice
#

that’s called a pistol shotgun

#

And they’re very prevalent in Remnant

silk blade
#

Rupture Cannon

#

The one in my dream looked like Killy's GBE

little ridge
#

Context

junior latch
little ridge
#

Things do not exist in a void

wicked solstice
#

There is no context

#

The context was lost with Fred the R5E1 tank

little ridge
#

ah nvm you're talking about another game

wicked solstice
#

He ate it and dipped to R6C3

silk blade
#

Can't wait for the GTFO X BLAME! crossover

wicked solstice
#

I’m still wilding that they put a tank on C3 main

little ridge
wicked solstice
#

Shit’s wack

little ridge
#

IMHO the complex should look more like BLAME!'s... structure

wicked solstice
#

Idk what blame is

#

Crab just mentioned pistol shotguns so I mentioned Remnant 2

little ridge
wicked solstice
#

Ah ok

little ridge
#

a guy goes around a fuckgigantical structure in search for net terminal genes

wicked solstice
#

COPY_GENOME_INDEX_COMPLETE_DB

#

Sounds about right

little ridge
#

ROBOCOPY command when?

junior latch
#

i just realized its clipping time now d4rkevDespair

wicked solstice
#

Actually it’s magging time

#

:3

wicked solstice
#

Sorry that was terrible

silk blade
#

It's CGI but I like the style they did it in

little ridge
#

Like Arpeggio's CGI never made me puke

#

Nor Ajin's

silk blade
silk blade
bitter sleet
#

Wassup guys😁

wispy bluff
bitter sleet
#

Nice

#

I’m doing good too. Just doing some Rundowns

wispy bluff
wispy bluff
foggy plankBOT
bitter sleet
#

Oh i know. I've been using them

lusty river
#

Mfw I called a random out for having weapon customizer mod and he left immediately cat_standing_RS

wraith marsh
#

based

shut vapor
#

sure would be nice if every r2modman/thunderstore mod required modlist as a dependency