#gtfo-chat
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this is a very common true solo strat, most of the time having enemies build up in true solo without a mine is a big no no and its easier for some rooms with multiple entrances if you funnel all enemies through one door
its nowhere near as necessary in a full lobby tho
the only time id use it in a full squad run is if we had 3 sentries
Simply bring 4 mines for every level
Oh wow then imma start with the burst sentry. That was my second option to keep
if you want a sentry run burst sentry
Yes
its by far the best sentry in the game right now
Burst Sentry is the only Sentry
Ok cool
occasionally sniper sentry is worth considering but for the majority of the time just do burst
btw how viable is sniper sentry rn? I havent tried it for a while
4 bios forever
All set
Well I gotta go for now. I’m going home finally where I can play lol. I’ll post a game soon hopefully someone joins😅🤣
cant lose a run with 4 bios
Ong
i only use it on levels where i know there is gonna be a forced long path sleepers have to follow like the bridge in r1c1 as a quick example
I'll join and do nothing np
on most alarms its wind up time makes it really annoying to use
Holding bridge r1c1
i dont ever use it other than for situations like that and even then i usually just run burst anyways
yeah thought so, i was considering using it for missions with ||big flyers|| so they arent as annoying
Just aim better ong
Ah yes aim better with 15 fucking fps in destination
Pretty sure theyll still mag dump it if it's not charging so....
Yes
another issue i have with sniper sentry is it fucking tks me a lot
Lmao
sniper sentries penetrate ||big flyer|| armor tho no?
i like my shotguns i dont like getting blasted in the ass by a sniper sentry while using shotguns
Wait what
use your shotgun as a sniper, youll kill an enemy eventually
pretty sure they do that
its called chokemod
Am I tripping?
that too
gonna be real tho i just cant consider sniper sentrys ability to kill big flyers a bonus
Wdym penetrate big flyer armor
i cant name a single level its in off the top of my head
yeah
ik ive fought some
i dont remember them being a real threat tho
kinda just big ol electric meatballs
Real
I remember one just constantly hitting the metal rebar in r6cx
Oh right
R7b3
R7e1
yeah i forgot aswell gawd damn
still these enemies are not a real threat imo
honestly fliers in general are not really that big of a deal unless you are me with double shotgun
did a level with one of those teleport sequences where you are harassed by fliers for a minute or two and your objective is survive
Lmao
i just went basically afk told my team "i got 2 shotguns i cant even hit them"
my other friend spent the whole time trying to knife one
Real
bot was being a bot
Bring spear for flyers
last friend was the only one being productive
literally dont think i got hit a single time despite not moving more than 5 steps the whole sequence
Strafing simulator
It was fine
Honestly we just pulled the first two charger scouts
Then avoided the last three
for a c tier i find that levels overload to be really fuckin rough
I mean it's next to r7c3 pe
So...
r7c3 main and secondary aint really a challenge if you are decent at melee
with a team of decent melee players
Overload
altho r7c3 overload is def difficult
i find it so dumb that there is a checkpoint right before r7c2 secondary
if you fail the checkpoint you can just go extract and finish the level
A lot of secondaries/overloads have checkpoints for some reason
no reason to not at the very least try secondary
its just strange to place the checkpoint directly behind it when the only time you can do secondary is the very end of the level
I mean sex isn't that hard anyways
Just a strafing sim
Can you move left and right
it has a mom blood door in r7c2 secondary right
i mean if your blind it can be quite a suprise
On a c level
Fair
But also checkpoint so
You can just do it again
yeah
its one of the weirdest checkpoints in the game since its only purpose is the secondary
r3d1 is the only one i remember
R4e1
R5E1 is my fav E level
Nahhh
its sleepin in mom zone
moms side
Thought it was a mom
i always got the tank side so kek
we only full clear at this point
my team was to incompetant at the time of doing that level
Real
Doesn’t R5D1 have a pmom
but that was when r7 was only available rundown so most of our experience was in r7 levels
But pablo
Does it?
It does I think
I have the memory of a fish
its in secondary
Pablo is not scary anymore 😭
Ah right
But funny
Yes yes
Honestly r5e1 with neg bio scan aggressive boosters was funny
one of my friends was falling behind because ive duoed many levels without him so we recently spent like 6 hours catching his ass up in r4 and r6
Rip
only a few levels left in r4 and r6 left then its on to rundown 5
insisting on doing levels blind really slows this game down
What is this rundown order
already done with r1-3, was basically done with r7 when alts started releasing
r6 is kinda a meme in terms of difficulty so just doing it to get it done
then its just r4 and r5
R4 and 5 e are the hardest :D
saving e tiers for last for the most part
played around in em but havent actually cleared any of them mostly due to lack of a 4th player but at this point we are commited to the trio grind
Tbh I haven't unlocked any e level besides r7 but I've done some of them
Which...
I'm doing the game normally
I swear
I can join and be the mute
i mean whats your region
Us
i wouldnt mind for the e tiers
:D
but it might be awhile before it happens kek
im capped to playing at the speed of my friends
cant make progress without doing it as a group for the most part
nah saving the experiences for the group ive been playing with since day one
Fair
I duo with someone but their framerate isn't nearly good enough to play literally half the levels
You get used to it
Not counting e tiers which i plan on doing last i have 4 levels left in r4, 8 levels left in r5, 4 levels left in r6,
thats all i got left of gtfo
fuckin getting there
You will get there one day 🔥
Honestly the only funny thing is they hosted r7d1 once and we got the infinite scout scream
isnt that the bug that basically just instantly fails your run
Well
enemies stop moving, stop spawning, and you cant extract
We were trying to get it for the memes
There is a fix
Which is why they hosted
2 fixes, actually
Checkpoint
I haven't been able to get clips, unfortunately
It was funny
we got that in r2d2 unintentionally and it killed our run at i think 8 or 9/10 codes
I have like one/two clips
was so fucking tilted
In r2d2????
How
5 scout room
Me in r2d2 entering a side zone and the security door closes behind me 
Gtfo once again being fine
Lmaooooooo
we didnt go back to the level for 6 months after that
literally got my first clear on r2d2 a few weeks ago
ended up beating the map twice in one night
Lmao
first run was r2d2 as a duo for shits and giggles and we actually beat the map
Reactr
then other friend joined in and was like damn i still aint got the clear
R1-2 are overrated, haven’t seen much posts for R3 or R7 😭 am starting to forget what’s on those lvls
r3 other than d1 is boring af
Snooze festtttt
Also infection becaus
r3c1 is prob my least favorite level in the entire game for a variety of reasons unless we count r7d1 fuck that level
R3A1 speedrun when
Real
Also tf is the time between r5b3 charger waves
R4C2 when you have to walk back and forth 💀
a while
I swear I waited for the waves longer than the rest of the level
Ngl Idk what the B tiers for R5 are since I never really played those missions
i dont remember r4c2 but i apparently have a clear on it without side objectives
R5C1 is my 13th reason
Especially with randoms when they attempt secondary

im gonna beat every level in gtfo but if you ask me anything about 90% of the levels i wont know a fucking thing about it
Ik there’s speedruns of it I’ve just never attempted it myself
😆
What’s in R1A1 Sub
Is there like bosses in that one
levels ive done true solo are a exception

literally only remember d tier in r2
Ong
Surely you remember R2B2
Nah shooter hell was R1B2
Yus
Spitr
yeah i dont remember the level
I still remember R5C2 and one of the randoms would use their hel revo instead of their sniper against the snatcher
Giants
i also dont remember anything in r3 excluding r3c1 which i remember for being cringe and bad and r3d1 for pmom
Ok I’m back home and ready to play lol
R3A1 just resuscitate your neonate
Yus
I forgot which R3 mission had that class 7 apex door but it could be a different rundown
i did r4 a tier literally less than a week ago and dont remember the levels
i think i have dementia
It’s okay I forget things too
that's r2b1 iirc
Oh bet
Carry me r7a1
good luck
I’m hard stuck on that lvl, sorry 😭
Failed training too
I posted. I believe i did it right. Lol
you did
whats wrong with that
might take awhile to get a lobby of 4 just a warning tho
Cool. Hopefully I’ll get someone on here soon ish😁
It’s ok lol. If I get 3 we can play a couple Rundowns
if you find someone you like playing with you could also add em as friend and potentially play more in future
Yeah we’ll see. I’m not super picky but who know maybe I’ll find my squad here😜🤣
incredibly based
They didn’t play well 😭 I’m pretty sure he even had crazy mods on like heroic heart
not a gun issue then
needing mods to beat levels is a skill issue, its qol or nothin
Yeah true it was just a him issue
skip intro best mod tho
Not saying it’s bad to use the hel revo but if you had a sniper, why not take advantage of that yk
Intro volume soothes my ears tho
yeah not many opportunites to use sniper in a way that isnt just wasting ammo
better than hel revo which might not stagger at all
I guess so 😔
you can stagger it with hel revo fine
ima stick with my safety stagger
Backshot it with scatter
I would probably shoot it once with sniper and then mag dump hel revo
Problem was he didn’t stagger it so I was like 
its just not inherently incorrect
stagger imo is top priority to save hp but yeah after that its all about killin the bitch
Stagger it with hell auto pp
stagger multi doesnt work on snatcher
also used a scattergun on a snatcher for the first time recently, had bots with me and i dont think ive ever seen a fuckin snatcher get one cycled
ive devolved into literally only using shotguns
Real
shotguns are the only true gtfo playstyle
True play is to somehow miss with scatter
i feel attacked
Npnp
alright well i got a ungodly amount of school work to do
Hf
college is pain
Oh fun
so you guys were right
the scattergun is braindead easy to use
just the "I want you to die" two tap
probably not a good idea to run hel shotgun with it tho lol
a certain person would say otherwise
"person"
If your teammates cover for it any combo is fine technically
someone told me it was shit and made me swap off it
but I changed back to it before they started
Real
The steel will of not engaging enemies until they are within your effective range and letting your teammates to have the fun
It's fun to sit there and watch someone miss a sleeper with a choke mod
you mean run at them charging your melee so they are in effective range
two tap
💀
by which I mean I can do it twice
it was worth it alone just for all the "how the fuck did you one shot that" reactions
It does have large damage.
it feels like shit to use outside of that situation though
two giants side by side in a empty room well cave man with a scattergun sees two free giant kills
0 effort
yup
It's good on a huge crowd of guys during an alarm
But yeah scattergun is not that versatile
are there many bigs in R2D1
A decent few in some of the stealth zones. Occasional hybrid during the alarms.
But if you're planning on meleeing in the stealth zones then the hybrids alone probably aren't worth bringing a dedicated big-killer
wake up everything there will be enough bigs then
two voices inside of every gtfo player. give in to the jish voice
R5E1 wake every scout?

What level actually has the most giants?
THE most?
I should say the most potential giants given. R5E1 scout spawns can be avoided
There are giant alarms, surely? That makes them potentially infinite.
I suppose.
its r5e1
Hmm
easily
What if sleeping ones only
Probably still r5e1
Having done it the normal way like 3-4 times the past week
I just never cared to see if there was any other level with potential for more giants
r7c3 might win? but I doubt it
I wanna say R6C2 ext for Hybrids specifically
But I could be wrong (next to depends how quick and effectively your team can push/defend to extract
r5e1 regular path just has so many
EVERY level has an infinite amount of giants
anyone down to show a noob the ropes?...asking for a frend 🫠
hello! u can check the LFG channels to share n join lobbies! the instructions are in https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/653623062964731920
just some advice!
always ask to not be carried, make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel
and if you are new be sure to do the tutorial first [Training] and start on rundown 1 since its the simplest one
carry r1a1
R2E1
Wow that was fun. Did most of Rundown 1 today😁😁😁
Thanks to everyone who helped and played with me😁😁😁
It was very very very fun😁😁😁
R5B2 has the bbc errors iirc
how can you blatantly lie
I don't remember which level it is
I did all of R5 out of order ngl
same with R4
Ok
Nvm It was R5B1
All sleepers are 1s or 2s
iirc. I did a run where we did both bbc error doors
and realized afterwards what we did
hi, is this the right place to ask noob questions? If so then I wanna ask what is the purpose of the Knife and Bat in this game? Because my group has been completing some rundowns so far with either the Hammer or Spear and found no issues with them
knifes very much a melee combat, its super fast, requires headshots and uses no stamina so if u wake up one two rooms u can kill em no dmg and fast; problem with it is giants, basically only useful for the first hit since itll be the only one that staggers
bats a small hammer, fast, staggers a lot, and kills with medium dmg, so can kill from the back strikers and kill a giant a bit more reliable
its basically kinda a coop weapon, to run in to stagger if a room wakes up, stagger abig if someone didnt... its not a lot of dmg to an enemy but it is a bit faster
basically havin, 3 hammer and one of htese two its ok, if u go 4 hammers like thats perfectly fine too
2 or 3 of these melees tho need more coop for giants, scouts [both only kill it from the back of the head] and all that
we've been always having 2 hammers 2 spears every rundown and yeah it's very easy with giants/big shooters but rather hard to deal with hordes
so I guess knife and bat should be preferably used for stealth and require more precision with non-stealthy combat right? And it seems the knife also makes less noise when breaking locks
all melee weapons can be used for stealth
spears ok for stealth, since it has very long range, and knife for its reduced chance aggro [meaning killin enemies with others glowin less probable to wake up]
but really hammers kinda the best, cause of its big dmg that allows u more zones to like hit without worryin, the rest r kinda limited for headshots
but they all can be used
yeah
knife does make less noise for locks too
but its mosstly for combat
spear is great. but it pales in speed compared to everything else
primarily movement speed when charging
if u want like more movements for hordes, maybs 3 hammers one knife/bat or just 4 hammers
oh sorry for misleading grammar, but yeah I know all melee weapons are for stealth but what I meant is the knife and bat are specifically better for stealth while being worse at non-stealth combat
nah knifes really made for combat
and bat its as good as hammer kinda, just needin more heashots and with a faster charge
spears the only one not made for combat
since u cant sprint with it
i see
Knife doesn't consume stamina and can dispatch striker/shooters pretty well if you move well and hit heads
Spear gets shit on a lot because of it's slower sprint speed while charging
i always carry a hammer and my group never uses anything other than the hammer and spear because of the damage so I'm just wondering why knife and bat exist and maybe I'll try bringing them next time
you can sprint. albeit reduced to slightly faster but still loud as sprinting normally
Hammer can just do everything
hammers just too powerful but theres a niche said for knife
cause of its stamina and fast charge
the other two...
as much as i like bat its just, a faster less dmg hammer
Knife is ok until you face chargers/giants
but on combats very good, so 3 hammers one knife its a powerful combo
plus u can do chargers
u just need, luck skdmksmd
i guess
haha
needs two in the back or three in the front, full chargers
at least bat staggers it
on the second hit
well it seems to me there's a big gap between weapons in this game. Not really balanced I guess. Even the guns have big gaps in their stats
I found a gun tier list the other day, saw the DMR as the worst gun and tried using it. It was really garbage compared to things like HEL revolver or Carbine. Idk if I'd ever have any reason to use it
thats just confirmation bias
like yeah headshots on striker its not a oneshot but with any dmg oost it is
dmr is very good
most of the stat related gun gaps in this game are gone at this point
plus with a team u headshots, and thats it someone else with an auto kills it
all the guns r pretty balanced
the gun gaps in this game are mostly role related and just pen being busted
ar 
its perfectly usable
ars not even that far behind
fair
its not the smg on past rundowns or somethin
its perfetly fine, if not a bit below anythin else
just cause everything grew
most weapon tier lists are debatable and likely susceptible to bias
I should experiment more i guess, after all I'm a newbie haha
but some guns really don't work for me
thats why i dont like tier lists, every weapon in this game its usable and has a niche, it sjust hard to rank em based on how flexible they are
maybs an old one
dmr hasnt been changed in ages
hel autopistol
it has a niche just its too nichey
uhuh
u can try negatin me i wont change my views lol
uhuh
it has a not useful niche
my friend tried it jsut yesterday and right after he fired the first magazine he said "what a fcking garbage gun, dude restart the run right now i need change!" lmao
its good at its job
lol
don't worry too much about weapon stats for a while
they're kinda nice to know imo but don't use them as a gospel until you're like at r2 c tier or d tier
someone wasnt hittin headshots
if youre not using pen on hel revo
its the exact same
just with more dmg less total ammo and more mag lol
The only gun that's got good ammo efficiency but pretty insane skill requirement is dtr imo
but yeah if u dont like a gun, specially in the secondaries aka the special weapons, it just had a niche or a use that wasnt met
the only thing I can think of is just the magnification/reticle dterring people but otherwise yeah. they are esentially the same
ngl I dont think dmr even feels that bad to body
3 shot, staggers every hit
4 kills a mag
you blow through ammo but
most ppl do that anyways
if u use it like that u just yeah run out super fast of ammo
i miss a lot of headshots i am bad an i use a lot of weapon
but on the last run i had with dmr
i had like 33% on a wave, when usually i am left with 60 50% with other guns
but thats my skill issue
Did they buff rifle at all? It doesn’t feel good rn imo
what
nerfed
rip
the changes werent much tho
Rifle's nerf did hardly anything to affect it's performance
-3m range and lost some mag size
basically a pistol but with more range and dmg i think
I see
it just needs a bitof headshots, not as much as dmr
but it helps a lot
and it staggers a fuck
ton
i also forgot that this game has a variety of multipliers applied differently to different weapons/monsters, like for example damage is not always 1x front, 2x head, 6x occiput, 3x back for all monters but each type is different. So for guns I think each one should be used in a different way too
What about prec bonus
that too some guns value heashots a ton more than others
pretty good notion to have yea
headshot multi differs depending on enemy.
like a sniper vs a shotgun
but generally speaking, most guns have the same precision
(back not affected by precision unless its back of head)
back damage kinda complicated as well but you dont really need to learn about that
u odnt really use guns differently between enemies tho unless its A chargers B giants or D some other spoiler enemy that plays way differently
i guess shadows too cause aiming at the head its hard
E Teammates
that too
Like I used the rifle on r6cx but I feel like I used it on the wrong mission 
yeah it was cool when my group found out that the sniper could oneshot kill a giant. Since then the one bringing sniper in my group has always yelled "don't you dare popping its head! Keep it for me" lol
so real
i am the guy who just doesnt care and shoots it
i like the sniper but i dont nab it a lot
i prefer other guns cause i cant aim so
scattergun, burst cannon...
huh
he always yells when he sees a giant walking without its head through his scope 
Sniper gives so much relieve to a struggling team
just scatter
ong
intentionally aiming for the harder to hit part of the giant when it has no benefit
no u die when u do that
Scatter user detected!
:D
smh
sniper is one of the few weapons with a over 1x precision. (basically double damage on weakpoints)
spear
be like
yeah I know it works but snipers love oneshotting enemies
wow nitro user
I hear there's some pages on the wiki that explain all the multi's or something, if you go to the Weapons page it has em all linked near the top or something
wahhh
idk tho just something I heard
nahhh
wdym
Slendin sayinf he cant aim
false
making invisible head for my pr player 😄
I can see the head outline on my thermal
no i aim at the chest :3

thats fucking awesome
so it jusst blows up
no
idk ive used pr once and hated it
I believe it does not Chill, unfortunately
sadge
I use obscure game bugs thst give me barely any advantage to feel superior
:[
yep, I've been reading the wikis but at the same time avoiding clicking pages that would "spoil" stuffs because as a newbie in any game I play, I just want to "digest" it slowly to enjoy it
so real
I LOVE obscure mechanics
ong
Yah as long as you stay clear of the enemy pages you should be good, and I guess the level pages
I shoot the neck of a giant to blow his upper half then use sniper to shoot the invisible head
real
unironically useful callout when meleeing and missing head
I only start reading enemies' pages whenever I start encountering them 😄
what levels have you done so far
'
?
i read em every blue moon and just, die forgettin how to deal with em
all of R1 and R2Bs so far
still a lot more to go
Hes a neonate still
nice
but we're doing everything in order, no skipping
the d tiers oh no
Good
ur gonna regret not skippin when u get stuck
No
qwq
Let him actually see things and not skip
They got past R1C1, don't worry about them we got some gamers on our hands
difficulty be like
don't worry, we got stuck at R1C1 for like... 10 tries but still managed to complete it with a very complicated strat lol
m
that is not a good metric
yea
still sad that the r7 enemy is ruined now for ppl going in order
i don't remember the code name but the "tower defense" one
rip
just do r7 first
im glad they added it elsewhere but
r1c1 reconnect yeah

its still sad
one of my friends can't aim... so 🤡 haha
thats what they all say
that's the person who tried using the DMR, didn't shoot heads and said it was trash...
ahem sledi ahem
because he literally can't aim heads
fair
me
imagine playing a shooter game with high sens and mouse acceleration
just gotta embrace the lack of being able to hit heads and just use guns that it doesn't really matter
me using 60% precision rifle and gettin 4 kills
lies
i play with a mousepad
what dpi do you guys play with
Default
Going to your house and changing to max in game sens and 64000000 dpi
whatever my mouse is on
so true
Liyerally this
Imagine microing how your mousr move
I just know anyone who gets on my computer complains my sens is low as fuck
360000° headshot
imagine thinking this is microing and not just curiosity
real
I've got to ask, what was the 'complicated' strat?
i ask cause my friend plays with i think like 700 or something and i'm over here on 3500 and he was baffled by how little i need to move to 360 in game
its gonna be like 15 different chokepoints
how tf do you even check dpi
What the fuck is a DPI 🗣️🗣️
Before the sens conversation continues, please note that inches for 360 is the only good way to compare sens
depends on your mouse brand i think
idk how you'd check if you don't have a specific software thing
real
who tf out here measuring how far their mouse moves in inches
im just googling the mouse default lol
360 gradians?
1 and a half mouse lifts for me to 360
somewhere between 0 and 2 mouse lifts for 360
beautiful standardized units thank you guys
np
we brought 4 sentries and tried to move forward as far as possible in order to collect those loots spawned at the beginning of the level. I had to sprint most of the time back to the terminal for the command
what did you do with all your wave warmup time in the later waves
i've seen people solo doing it quite easily on youtube so I think what we did was a lot of effort but well it worked
Dont try to copy solo strats on coop
there wasn't enough time for us to run from the terminal room to collect loot because we also needed to heal up and shoot the remaining horde
Coop settups are actually quite simple to pull off
You can defend 2 rooms away from the reactor room. Gives you more time to collect stuff
we didn't try to copy strats. I only started searching for those videos to see how other people complete the rundown after we ourselves completed it
🤣
love setups that maximize backtracking
r5b1 sec spawn defend
Try to watch 4 man teams if you can, solo its just a different game altogether and more often then not will use some bugs here and there
we did defend like 3-4 rooms away from reactor
is there a lot of 4 man clear vids for early rundowns
probably
thought there was mainly r4+ if even
Wanna do some
i'd imaging there are more for like r1a1 and stuff than later levels
I could but they wouldnt be helpful to new ppl lmao
real
just watch captain alpha's guide videos
CAPTAIN ALPHA MENTION 🗣️
show them the best way to play the game early
That's honestly one of the better strats imo, only kinda falls off for a lot of teams because it gets confusing for the code guy to know when to run
Where did captain alpha go
Yeah
We still here though
R4D2 is surprisingly one of the more fun missions tbh
that's why I said "complicated" because I (the code guy) had to calculate seconds needed for each zone to reach back the reactor. I thought it wasn't necessary but in the end it worked for us so I don't really care haha
why is everyone allergic to the bridge hold
just hold the better choke
I dunno
Its literally a gift
Big bridge infront of a literal hole in the wall where enemies funnel perfectlt for the team
99% go nah
yea
but
also
why make it easier
Now THIS.... Is a top tier emoji

hmmm
i typically use 3600 for gtfo and have literally 0 issues aiming
but do you play at 180 fov
How is your screen not a helicopter?????
no i am tryna keep the contents of my stomach in my stomach
because 3600 isnt even that fast, honestly i could control higher if i really wanted to but it is hard on my wrist
800 is a good value smh
im on 1600, 0.5 sens in game
holy fuck i just set mine to 800 and this shit is sooo slow lmfao
The best way to play gtfo: 800 dpi, 1x sens, 55 fov, motion blur on
Some mouse sensors operate best in a specific DPI range, usually above 2400
The range is roughly 2k-4k
I would literally lose my cursor if it was above 1800
Higher-end mouse/gaming mice usually specify
i have 3 dedicated dpi settings, 1600 for when im in bed, 3200 for games like gtfo, 6400 for daily driving
motion blur on is actually trolling
i can tolerate the rest of that
but motion blur is for fuckin psychopaths
I play with motion blur LOL
I don't usually change settings at all except when turning that shit up
It looks too static if motion blur is off
motion blur and bloom -> 0 immediately after booting any game
i open a new game and instantly motion blur gets turned off
that shit makes me sick
and it just looks so bad
Motion sickness?
800 for gaming
1200 for daily stuff
5000 for Escape the Backrooms cheese
Were alike
It that but it just helps w9th visual clarity
i used to daily drive 12.8k dpi
Way better with motion blur off
like i said tho its hard on wrist so i lowered it
And it also depends on your setting of motion blur
You'd see better on lower fov
Some mild blur tes thats fine
:')
But if you have puke diahrrea
Where a little turn makes everything just like a toilet bowl then no
no it makes me sick in the sense that its just fucking gross looking
why make such nice crisp lines look blurred and shit when you turn you camera
I can't see shit irl by default so I'm just mimicking that in game
my vision is already mimicked because i still have to look at the monitor and squint to read 8s and 0s

I have all the hud scaling on max and I still can't read the text well, specially numbers
lmao
The font and it being small enough that the 8s and 0s look the almost same if you don't look closer is strange for sure
ironically if they just didnt put the line through the 0 it wouldnt be a issue
its not often you would confuse a 0 for an O in this game so there isnt much reason behind the line in the 0
I feel like there would definitely be more confusion than you're claiming
Maybe still less than 0/8 confusion but I do think it would be there
thank you
What kinda tierlist has dmr at the bottom 💀
Inches, you sure tru
?
this is the first time i saw someone acknowledge the DMR as the worst gun.
I forgot the link but yeah someone put DMR as D-tier 💀
hel revolver and carbine both excel at close - near medium range. DMR excel at medium - long range
long range sawed off
It has kind of a long range for a Sawed-off Shotgun
In its current state, the Sawed-off Shotgun has become quite reliable ; I enjoy it a lot
wdym „acknowledge“
Dmr is super far away from being the worst gun lol

legit more range than standard shotty (tho i gotta say the sound design makes that one have more of an omph feel wise)
what would you say is the worst gun
autopp?
AR
hel pp is niche as frick but it does its actual job well
Its just not a good job
So i have it slightly above
Same for bullpup (but bullpup output is actually fine, its just oof for reload and no prec hits)
someone convince me to use hel gun again when the hel rifle exists
hel rifle has a smaller mag, lower firerate, less overall ammo (this mostly matters when dealing with smalls) and a worse reload
Hel gun (as of rn) is a high skill requirement weapon to use effectively
Hel rifle is rather simple and better for chargers
Hel gun has a smaller mag ?
It's fun
I think this topic should always consider the rest of the team tbh
Noone would say that Sniper is a bad weapon but that's not a good reason to get 4 of them
Weapons dont exist in a void and the composition of the team's loadout matters
R6D1 
There's some weapons that are, IMHO, versatile enough to get 4-stacked in most circumstances
4 Carbine's fine for example
or 4 hel revs
but those are mains
4 hel rifiles in r5e1 maybe
Ah I'm sure someone will be bored enough to do r4e1 extreme with 4 auto pps just to "prove me wrong" :^)
can i ask what is auto pps ?
Hel Autopistol
it all boils down to the point that no gun is the worst, it's just the way you make use of it
there's still some exceptions, like some levels do require specific weapons...
there is a worst gun
and there is a „worst gun for a situation“
I mean we got some pretty good ways to differentiate it
2.9 would help
|| remove the AR so it won't be brought up in any guns comparison
||
I like the 2.9 route because it makes it 1+5 and 2+3
Does 2.3 break any threshold?
Honestly yeah, i always wondred why burst rifle is just a better gun, and not just the same thing in burst fire configuration
Well burst rifle takes skill, but that shouldn’t be an excuse
Burst rifle dmg?
thats 2.71
Or you mean smth else?
2.1875 x 0.8x
vs
2.71 x 0.8667x
Same for smg + carbine
i mean if we want AR to be more powerful, that’s the way to go to give it a niche
Should be 1 less bullet
yes
Honestly yeah - just... Just copypaste burst stats onto it. Maybe you can skip out on precision, so that burst had SOME selling point to it before it become the new worst gun
what why
2.3 ar would still not be great rly
???
Burst is still really good if you can aim
I cannot
I still like br but I’m shit with it
burst rifle might not reach top 4 but imo its easily in the spots after
Unless we nerf recoil while at it - AR might risk just replacing the burst rifle, because its just easier to use while doing same things
The only selling point of burst at that point would be...
WHAT
Well, burst, really. It spits them bullets very fast, so its kinda like a fire rate increase.
oops caps
But like at that point it just comes down to personal preference honestly
I don't know, would the increased (hypethetical) fire rate of Burst Rifle be enough of differentiator?
It doesn't help that i don't remember the RoF of AR, but in my memory its kinda on the slowish side.
Literally if AR is at 2.9, it takes 1 headshot plus 5 bodyshots to kill. Burst rifle kills in either 1 head burst or 2 body bursts iirc
Like BR will be more efficient but AR has more ammo
Literally a personal preference
Ar is just kinda worse SMG rn
BR does not kill in 1 hs burst or 2 bs bursts
Nope
huh
Its head + body for a reliable kill
Wait there’s no way, what
You're confusing it with Double Tap Rifle, probably
ohhhh i know what it is
and for hs you cant do it in 1 burst unless client
I was getting behind sleepers
Anyway, i think i'm sold. Just copypaste BR stats onto AR (damage and prec, that is) and i think we'll be fine for a while, but i wouldn't mind seeing some other interesting ideas.
what no don’t copypaste hello
No me forgor
just give AR damage boost and maybe less ammo to compensate for higher dmg

Blank dragon (he forgor)
I literally did the gun steam guide like 2 days ago and i forgot
That will work for me too, although i'm worried we're risking murdering Bullpup again
you did 
show
I cant say the r word
Recoil
range
I have re-coil in my head
bullpup is still lower tier
Inb4 Hel Gun recoil nerf
inb4 hel gun charge up nerf
0.3 > 0.7
0.3 > 3

bruh no
Weasley will be so mad
Oh shit 💀
It’s already dead
Man I hate those charge nerfs
Like it’s still strong but it just feels shitty to use
Not that I could use it effectively
that will also make the gun unfun
worse vs giants
I had a dream that r8 released without warning
The 0.2 charge was fine
Yeah...
people cope hard when they say the breakpoint nerf wouldnt matter
0.2 was still rly fucking strong but people already didnt play it much because it takes skill to get used to (same for 0.1 tbh)
And added some kind of 4 shot handgun that shot 4 bullets in a square shape at the same time
not unlikely 
This is true
Rupture Cannon
The one in my dream looked like Killy's GBE
Context

Things do not exist in a void
ah nvm you're talking about another game
He ate it and dipped to R6C3
Can't wait for the GTFO X BLAME! crossover
I’m still wilding that they put a tank on C3 main
Tried to read that but really, I like the ambience more than the story
Shit’s wack
IMHO the complex should look more like BLAME!'s... structure
manga
Ah ok
a guy goes around a fuckgigantical structure in search for net terminal genes
ROBOCOPY command when?
i just realized its clipping time now 
Try the movie
Sorry that was terrible
It's CGI but I like the style they did it in
Some CGIs are fine when they're all in CGI and coherent
Like Arpeggio's CGI never made me puke
Nor Ajin's
Blame and GTFO have some cool parallels
Exactly how it is
Wassup guys😁
As usual
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Oh i know. I've been using them
Mfw I called a random out for having weapon customizer mod and he left immediately 
based
sure would be nice if every r2modman/thunderstore mod required modlist as a dependency



