gtfo-chat

[junior latch]

my only issue with scatter is

Why not take current burst cannon

[analog flicker]

Shot gun

[junior latch]

remove burst cannon and its definetly S

[pine root]

beacuse burst cannon requires me to have two hand on my computer

[normal lake]

because i dislike burst cannon not really cus recoil its just not really that fun to use

[pine root]

scatter requires one

[wraith marsh]

ngl

[junior latch]

just due to absolutely no competition in boss clear

[wraith marsh]

burst cannon requires a lot more skill to use

[sharp siren]

tell me you suck with pr without telling me you suck with pr

[junior latch]

ah jish is making 0 skill tierlist then kk

[wraith marsh]

for a result that is pretty much just "further away"

[normal lake]

could care less about true efficiency when you got a gun compareable in strength thats just way more fun

[pine root]

play one

[junior latch]

Dragon you do suffer vs shooters still

Projectiles be ass on it

[pine root]

of the cursed jish down levels with us

PLS

PLS

[analog flicker]

[wraith marsh]

3 kills per burst, no stagger on bosses, recoil control

[sharp siren]

If you have pr and your not killing the shooters

[junior latch]

jisks asks at 1 am

[sharp siren]

i wwill kill that person

[junior latch]

on a weekday

[pine root]

it is my weekend

[sharp siren]

jish will tell me the tongue its infinite

at 1am in the morning

[junior latch]

killing, easily

Getting chipped, still (if in range before you get to shoot)

[pine root]

my tongue is infinite for you

[sharp siren]

DAMN

[wraith stratus]

I wanna see what kind of levels of unholy hide in there

Also I forgot I had this nickname lmfao

[normal lake]

hel shotty combat shotty kit is literally just ask your team mates to focus on shooters while you solo hold majority of strikers

[junior latch]

Its effectively a completely different loadout lol

[pine root]

that is why you take scatter

you can kill the shooters

[junior latch]

Hel gun bad, burst cannon bad then

High cal SS tier. Easy af gun?

[pine root]

you have to much scatter ammo anyways

99% of the time

[wraith marsh]

did you even read the rest of it eva

[normal lake]

then you cant kill strikers as efficiently

[pine root]

high cal cant one shot a mom

[sharp siren]

CAN WE PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD JUST PUT HSMG ON SPECIAL

[wraith stratus]

lol

[junior latch]

Neither can scatter

lol

[pine root]

idk

no one hears my first shot

[normal lake]

scatter can one shot a bot

[sharp siren]

pr can one shot mom

[pine root]

so it kills in mom

[junior latch]

it doesnt even 2 shot

jish

[wraith stratus]

Noise cancelling smh

[wraith marsh]

hammer intro stays winning

[pine root]

???????????

[junior latch]

obviously killing moms with it is easy af

just melee

[wraith marsh]

it doesnt jish

ive told you this

its like 940 damage

[pine root]

how do i do it

do i just hammer

[wraith marsh]

you hammer her first

[pine root]

every timeÉ

[junior latch]

yes

[pine root]

oh mb

it is ingrained

sorry

[junior latch]

its legit that easy

anyway, silent shot is an exploit i dont count (obviously funny af tho)

[normal lake]

i dont even know how to silent shot lmfao

[sharp siren]

good

[normal lake]

im a pure soul ig

[wraith stratus]

I still haven't managed to silent shoot

[sharp siren]

you gotta be based and purposely forget all the cheese

[normal lake]

i cfoamed a latter once to see what the fuck everyone was on about and havent since because what the fuck

[sharp siren]

i mean you will most likely do that shit by accident too

[wraith stratus]

Oh definitely

[sharp siren]

like i did some silent shots by accident

[pine root]

if you quick swap

you just do it constantly

[sharp siren]

Burst canon should have a 8m falloff range

[normal lake]

is reload canceling considered cheesing

[pine root]

yeah

[mystic moss]

yes game breaking exploit

[normal lake]

its become a unintentional habit with fuckin hel revo at this point

[sharp siren]

yes

[wraith marsh]

considering they include it in balance changes at this point

[sharp siren]

i do hope you know everybody here its fucking with you

it isnt

[normal lake]

hel revo reload canceling is so goofy

[sharp siren]

its part of the game

just wish they did stick to reloading

[wraith marsh]

skill expression good for the game

[sharp siren]

because reloading a gun fully truly affects how it plays

[normal lake]

honestly i really can only see it making a major difference in very rare situations

[normal lake]

i mean knowing when to reload is part of skill expression imo

[sharp siren]

you can give me a 10 second reload but if i can cancel it in 1.2 it really doesnt matter

so at the end its stupid

to balance a gun with a long reload only to have it cancelable

[normal lake]

how fast is the reload cancel for hel revo compared to the actual reload time

[sharp siren]

remove collision

[normal lake]

its like a second faster right

[sharp siren]

full reload its like 2.3

[normal lake]

feels like a second or so faster

[sharp siren]

enemy collision destroy "sklill expresion"

i dotn even count reload canceling as a skill

its so simple

[wraith marsh]

I think enemy collision is better for the game tbh

[sharp siren]

i mean player to enemy colision

[wraith marsh]

yea

[sharp siren]

i forgto that a different thing

[normal lake]

yeah reload counting is honestly not even a skill anyone can do it pretty effortlessly

[sharp siren]

🐒

[normal lake]

after doing it 10-15 times you dont even need to really time it to get it

[sharp siren]

reload see number go up, switch switch

dang skill

thats why you do crack like me and just use bp and pr and enjoy the reloads

[normal lake]

i dont do it on any gun but hel revo which i basically never use

[sharp siren]

its good for sure

[normal lake]

but at this point its like a fucking fidget i do unintentionally like sliding while running

[sharp siren]

but man you could actually do some cool shit back then

with melee

and getting back damages

etc

sadly 80% use the freedom to just run around

[mystic moss]

brb kiting surge

[sharp siren]

brb circle kitting for 30 min

[wraith marsh]

I feel like you definitely still can but I dont really know to what extent you are talkin about ig

occi tap is the main thing that I feel is missing

[normal lake]

i actually quite like the current state of kiting

feels difficult to do so and its not infinite but its still doable

[modern coral]

^

[normal lake]

infinite kiting where all you gotta do is run in circles not fun imo

current state gotta hug corners fuckin bob and weeve and even then unless we are talkin shadows they gonna catch you

[modern coral]

Some R4 players want to think that kiting was balanced because they were terrible at kiting.

[normal lake]

all i gotta do to know i am shit at kiting and its skill issue is watch a fuckin hinoki video

[modern coral]

But you could get away with some insane shit in R4 and R5, especially if your entire team was actually competent.

Like, first error of R5E1 was piss easy in the OG because strikers and hybrids are simply not threats with infinite stam.

[normal lake]

it would be cool if some of that shit was possible just difficult like lower the skill floor for kiting but keep the skill ceiling high idk how you would do it tho

[sharp siren]

Kiting was never suppose to be a thing in this game

[modern coral]

It's fine as is, imo.

[sharp siren]

I dont know why you talking like its part of this game

[modern coral]

Rn if you're bad at kiting you take bat or knife.

[normal lake]

pretty much my current opinion, its not something they can remove

i do have some annoyances with stamina but generally i think its tolerable

[serene jewel]

what's the difference between scatter and burst

[wraith marsh]

range

[serene jewel]

I think I used burst before and didn't really like it

[normal lake]

burst has painful fucking recoil

[serene jewel]

if I wanted to go large hunter I'd pick sniper

[normal lake]

but it has better range and better potential

[pine root]

worst of the 3 options

hands down

[wraith marsh]

it does not have better potential funnily enough

its just range

[serene jewel]

it's easy to use though

[pine root]

i dont know how to say this

[normal lake]

id honestly agree with jish for all situations except the fuckin kraken fight

[pine root]

MY BAD

R6D1

very important level

[normal lake]

literally only level where sniper is a good pick

[pine root]

scatter gun

is the most brain dead gun in the game

[normal lake]

well its still decent just better options

[pine root]

along with hel shotty

[serene jewel]

what best complements the hel shotgun

[pine root]

another hel shot gun

[sharp siren]

another hel shotgun

DAMN

[normal lake]

generally a gun with range

[pine root]

XD

[sharp siren]

Great minds think alike

[normal lake]

you two on the same wave length

[sharp siren]

thats what crack does to you

[serene jewel]

I use hel gun/rifle or machinegun with it but

eh

[wraith marsh]

based

[serene jewel]

I wish I could just settle on one loadout

[normal lake]

carbine is the boring main meta pick, gotta choose hel shotgun

[rose nova]

just pick pistol

is the true og

[sharp siren]

but hel shotgun its meta

like legit

[serene jewel]

not outside point blank range lol

[normal lake]

yeah of the meta picks tho carbine is the boring one

[serene jewel]

at least with carbine I can shoot stuff I can see

[normal lake]

hel shotgun is the fun and cool meta pick

[pine root]

why are you killing sleepers

outside of point blank range

it is the best idea

[wraith marsh]

its almost like

[pine root]

delays wave the longest

[wraith marsh]

80% of the enemies in this game try to get closer to you

[silk blade]

Wtf sniper gets 3.9

[pine root]

correct

[modern coral]

Sniper is p good on R6D3 and R4E1.

[serene jewel]

is scatter better than burst

[normal lake]

being close to a enemy with hel shotgun is not the same situation as being close to a enemy with carbine

[pine root]

depends how good you are with burst

if you can sweep 5 sleepers always

and you dont need the fast boss kill

burst is better

if you are brain dead

take scatter

[serene jewel]

braindead it is

[normal lake]

poorly worded, i meant optimal pick as in better over both burst cannon or scattergun

its still a good gun

[pine root]

sniper is fine

burst cannon and scatter are crimes

[serene jewel]

I've never used scattergun before tho what is it like

a shotgun?

[pine root]

against the game

[normal lake]

all the secondaries except pr are very usable

[pine root]

yeah just a point at it and kill it

[wraith marsh]

prs fine at this point

[pine root]

pr is fine as well just

feels bad to play

[wraith marsh]

we can no longer shit on it honestly

[pine root]

yeah

[wraith marsh]

we can just shit on the ppl who use it

😎

[serene jewel]

doesn't pr have thermal

[normal lake]

if you are within 5 meters of a giant and shoot at it 9/10 times that giant is dead

basically like running the super shotgun in doom

[serene jewel]

I'm not sure I want to be within 5m of a giant

[pine root]

dont worry

the gaint will come close to you

[serene jewel]

can the burst obliterate giants from the front

[wraith marsh]

if it doesnt die it gets hard staggered

[normal lake]

i mean if its dead in one shot you will be fine

[serene jewel]

I just need to try all these weapons lol

I used hel shotgun for a long time trying to make it work and I think I got it down

but I used burst once and scatter not at all

[normal lake]

honestly i didnt figure out hel shotgun until i tried it with no bots and no other players

very quickly learn where that gun fucking thrives

[junior latch]

R6C2

[serene jewel]

I probably actually don't know if I'm using it right

you just shoot to stagger right

then hold fire

[normal lake]

#gtfo-chat message

[junior latch]

3.91 tbf

[pine root]

i have an insane idea for you

just stand on the top of stairs

with scatter

[modern coral]

It is the best in R6C2, though.

Not just viable

best in slot

[normal lake]

gotcha

[pine root]

i think scatter is best in slot but we have determind

[normal lake]

i barely fuckin remember the level

[pine root]

i might be bais

[junior latch]

It is honestly better there

[pine root]

if we are only considering

the hybrid error

maybe

[junior latch]

hybrid error is the only challenging part at all honestly

and sniper invalidates it

[wraith marsh]

sniper wins when its exactly 3 large enemies and you hit all your shots

[pine root]

this does seem like the situation

[junior latch]

scattergun would honestly still be a somewhat worse choice when its 2 hybrids

[normal lake]

generally i prefer scatter or burst almost always because they are also not just wasting ammo on smalls when you have nearly full ammo

[wraith marsh]

sadly I would even give it a win vs hel rifle on 3 lined up giants

[pine root]

it would be but the tiles

[junior latch]

but i agree with chill

[pine root]

reward it

no long slight lines

close conners

[junior latch]

conners

[pine root]

i am desliyic

stop

[junior latch]

no

[pine root]

bully disable kid

[junior latch]

you are jish

[pine root]

i am calling the mods

[junior latch]

and im eva

[pine root]

you will be banned

[junior latch]

i already told you

i am eva

no name change

[pine root]

content creator more like banned creator

got em

[junior latch]

[wraith marsh]

content creator mod bias, you lose jish...

[pine root]

i am the mods speical little boy

idk

[junior latch]

im paying all the mods in chicken wings or smth (no cope)

Dont tell the mods tho

then theyll want wings

[serene jewel]

I've started to like Hel rifle too tho

[pine root]

@vestal kernel cash in now

[serene jewel]

the one shot anywhere is appealing

[vestal kernel]

[normal lake]

i fucking hate discord automod censoring the strangest most random words

[vestal kernel]

It do be like that

[pine root]

i wasling allowed to talking about ending ones self in game

when it was required

[junior latch]

Jish im actually working on a funny idea for the brazil skip video

[pine root]

to fix a bug once

[junior latch]

i already know i will fuck it up

[pine root]

XD

[junior latch]

since its gonna take me like 10 hours of editing

and ive edited ONCE before

and that was

eh

[pine root]

i am sure

you got this

[junior latch]

[wraith marsh]

I love posting unedited content

[pine root]

just dont upload grabage

works everytime

[normal lake]

just yar har adobe premiere

[junior latch]

the clips are fun tbh

but i wanna go out of my way for fun

[pine root]

you should join us for clip farming one of these days

[junior latch]

the video is gonna be pretty long tho

[pine root]

we want to get tank on a box

and mom on box

[junior latch]

ive got like 15 min worth of clips

[pine root]

na farm more

you should have 5 hours

by now

[junior latch]

ive seen mom on box

its funny

[junior latch]

Brazil skip only

[pine root]

ah

[normal lake]

i dont even upload videos but i record all my fucking gaming sessions for funny clips i needa clean the folder it has 630gb of fucking video recorded 💀

[wraith marsh]

I could laugh at the giant charger on a box all day ngl

[pine root]

the clip of you falling through floor

on training is good

[junior latch]

classic

[pine root]

Very good

[wraith marsh]

just get a clipping software subtonix

[junior latch]

that was with me speedrunning training on that day for a 4:08 aswell

[wraith marsh]

game bar works fine which you probably already have by default

if you use obs to record it has one

etc

[pine root]

XD

[normal lake]

i have a 2tb drive thats mostly unused

[pine root]

please

[normal lake]

ill just stick with my current method

[pine root]

trim that down

[wraith marsh]

it makes it easier to clip later

[pine root]

what are you

doing for your pc

[wraith marsh]

dont need to look through the giant file

[normal lake]

generally it is for moreso situations after the gaming session where i just wanna jump through it

[wraith marsh]

ah

most of the time when I Clip my stuff its cuz im laughing really hard immediately when it happens

so clip software works well for me

[normal lake]

usually i record low bitrate but ive been play 7dtd lately and that game fucking looks terrible in lower bitrate so my file sizes are atrocious

[junior latch]

I tend to clip unclipped stuff post stream if i think i might wanna use it for a stupid thing

[normal lake]

yeah 500gb of recordings for 7dtd but its a permadeath run so i like to go back through my videos to see where i fucked up and ways to do things better

[normal lake]

i dont stream i just fuckin record everything using obs because im a lazy bitch

[junior latch]

i stream

its the only reason i have red name

[normal lake]

ik that much

[junior latch]

big L
I wouldve loved purple

[normal lake]

im stupid aint that stupid

[junior latch]

[normal lake]

red matches asuna a bit better imo

that and mods are purple

just become a mod

[junior latch]

ill have it all

just missing the dev then

[normal lake]

dev is gonna be a hard one to get

well regardless this is where i hop off, ive been using discord to much today

[serene jewel]

@sharp owl yo are you joining? just making sure if you're loading or something

[serene jewel]

I crashed

the code isn't working @sly gulch

[icy rover]

Hey there, a group of friend of mine started trying the game and got miserably destroyed repeatedly this past evening.
Is there any resource on the basic mechanics of the game I can read/watch that this community recommend? I'm talking things a bit more in depth than the tutorial tells you to better understand things like "what does type of enemies do", "what weapon is good for what", "how is better to approach this or that situation" etc etc

[junior latch]

Professor scaler

But beware spoilers

theres a beginners guide he made (well 2, but obviozsly watch the newer one)

[ionic pollen]

Getting miserably destroyed repeatedly is kinda what this game is all about

[olive inlet]

hello

[thick temple]

while i do not disagree (failure is 100% a big part of getting better at this game, just trying to learn something new or formulate a better strategy for next time), getting something to help you get a kickstart is also pretty important imo (if you want it at least)

[frozen kite]

Most of this gameplay loop is map knowledge

we all fail in order to do better

through naturally that can be demoralizing to anyone, yes. Just balance it out playing other games and other levels without spamming the same run.

[spiral seal]

I just bought the game and matchmaking is taking to long does anybody mind joining or inviting?

[junior latch]

ingame matchmaking is basically unused by the community

[spiral seal]

That's what I figured

[junior latch]

there is however discord matchmaking (also called lfg)

check the „how to matchmake“ channels

and then hop into lfg beginners

[spiral seal]

Ohhh appreciate it

[junior latch]

it might be empty rn tho

as eu is at work and na is asleep

[spiral seal]

Thanks for the info though

[distant trout]

im new and ive been waiting in matchingmaking for what feels like an eternity is there a faster way to join a game ?

[flat perch]

don't matchmake, use "looking for group" lfg here on discord, #how-to-matchmake #lfg-beginners

[junior latch]

litteraly the same message above and they dont see that

[ionic pollen]

Yeah I'd say it comes down to personal preference mostly. I had a lot of fun starting fully blind with some friends and getting wiped a lot while figuring out how stuff works, my friends not so much 😂

[silk blade]

My group struggled when we hit r1c1

We would still be there had I not gone here to get advice on various things

[little ridge]

My first game was here with some people on og r4a1 that queried every single hdd

1h just for main

[ionic pollen]

I started at og r6, around c tier levels i started to play LFGs and learnt a lot from other players

[analog flicker]

I remember everyone being scared and panicked back in og r1

[earnest forge]

Ahhh, the memories

4 years ago

[crystal yacht]

guys I have a question. I have two enemies in the same room, they are glowing not synchronized. I meleed the first one while the second one is glowing. How far must it be to not be triggered?

[earnest forge]

If there are just two, you can just place yourself between them, and kill one

Effectively blocking line of sight with your own body (as long as they are not literally 2 meters away)

[crystal yacht]

Ok so if they are glowing, but I block their cone of view with my body, the second one wouldn't be triggered.

[earnest forge]

Also, if the one you are about to kill is glowing, it does not really matter. It is the other ones around that do.

[crystal yacht]

So at least 2 meters of distance to safely kill every mob even if all the others in the room are glowing?

[little ridge]

you cant block vision of targets afaik

very old thing some people say but I'm pretty sure it's false

[burnt flume]

That's an ancient myth

[analog flicker]

I thought that was fakenews

[little ridge]

it's 3 people blasting cho now

Another contendent!

[earnest forge]

I just wanted to see them try 😅

[burnt flume]

But what if I'm not a person

[analog flicker]

I'm pretty sure it was just people getting the sleeping timings conveniently correct at the time

[burnt flume]

Rng too

[analog flicker]

Rng?

[burnt flume]

Iirc there's a 25% for long range aggro if the conditions are suitable for it to happen

[analog flicker]

From what I recall part of it is due to sleep states not always being 100% accurate as client

But iirc Zander told me

Sleeper propagation or something exists

But never got deeper into the topic

But given conditions meeting and causing long range aggro. That's crazy.

[earnest forge]

As a Host "blocking line of sight" never works, as far as I know. It is indeed a myth.

I have only seen it "working" as a Client, and as Pachi said it was very likely pure luck

[little ridge]

Well

It's a good way to gauge if they're in absolute range where they wake up istantly

So it ain't 100% useless

[analog flicker]

Are you saying I'm 3-4m thicc

[little ridge]

I faintly remember someone using funny stuff just to test that number and finding it out to be lower than that

[little ridge]

😄

[analog flicker]

[little ridge]

By the by the bug where a client who joins a game in progress in maps that have "wrong" generators still works to softlock

[silk blade]

I thought it was 50% base but 25% knife

[earnest forge]

Indeed, this bug has just celebrated its third birthday

[analog flicker]

50% rng long range aggro....

Rooms would be waking up a lot more if that is the case.

[junior latch]

iirc me and tru had a discussion about this

it might be that the 25% stacks

with something else

i might have to retest at some point

because from my testing the chances were around 50%

with 2 enemies

remember, long range aggro only happens if stuff is glowing

[analog flicker]

Would make more sense yeah

I vaguely recall someone telling me sleep state

Is 0

Hence I stated some instances is due to client desync

Unfortunate timings

[burnt flume]

please don't tell me that this is "enemies are either a 1 or a 2"
"oh that enemy was a 2, unlucky"

[analog flicker]

No

Sleepers just entering glowing state but that hasn't visually registered for clients

It's a very small desync from my experience.

But enough to ruin people who have only played as host

Mako struggles more with stealthing when he plays Client

[modern coral]

It is RNG

There is a dice roll whenever an enemy is killed for long range.

A sleeping enemy is killed* I should specify.

[little ridge]

As anyone?

Especially with the delay

I can reliably kill one striker then slide next to the shooter one to tap-occiput without waking anything else as host

As client I feel like the timing is much stricter

[little ridge]

regardless of glowing?

[modern coral]

The long range check going through doesn't necessarily wake anything if it can't find a target.

Unless you mean the killed sleeper gloing, in which case I don't think that matters at all.

[little ridge]

No, I meant "does it matter if enemy Y in long range is glowing while I kill enemy X"

[blissful dome]

Try the wiki

[icy rover]

Thanks, the videos suggested where pretty informative. I'll check in the wiki as well.

One thing I have not found confirmation anywhere, if the extraction trigger a wave, is there a way to understand if it's an infinite series of waves or just a certain amount?

[true pilot]

Extraction alarms will never end

ones on doors will end after all the scans are finished

(except one type of alarms but youll discover that eventually)

[icy rover]

thanks for confirming, this kind of things would have been good to know when we reached our first extraction 😄

[little ridge]

R2B1, but technically that ain't an extraction alarm but ||extra wave triggered by crossing half of the last room||

[little ridge]

ce la farete uaglio

[modern coral]

It does matter.

You can roll a long range aggro and get no wakes.

I.e. if you roll it when the sleeper you killed is the last enemy in a closed room.

[analog flicker]

As Mako always plays Host. They aren't used to the delay clients can have

Versus someone who has always played as client

[wraith marsh]

the impact is pretty much nothing but ok

[analog flicker]

During glowing phase? Or all times?

[modern coral]

I don't understand the question.

Long range aggro is working exactly the same as usual.

Just, whether it actually can happen is an RNG chance.

[analog flicker]

I mean is it still there during sleep vs glowing

I see

[modern coral]

On the back-end, it is still there.

But you would never see it in gameplay.

A long range aggro check that doesn't cause any wakes may as well not happen at all.

I just think of it in terms of that back-end interaction.

As opposed to thinking of it in terms of a sleeper being able to wake from long range, and it's RNG if it does or not.

[analog flicker]

It's minor impact but enough to mess with people who've only played host

[wraith marsh]

no thats just pushing the boundaries as host

and not getting punished

[analog flicker]

[lusty river]

[modern coral]

Glows can start as host while being unreactable ^

Both the decision to commit to a swing and the actual time it takes for that swing to land are delays in which glows can start, and the very start of the glow won't necessarily having any visual or audio to pick up on.

I guess it might feel different on client, but client delay isn't actually the primary reason for random glows being unreactable. They are just unreactable by design.

[wraith marsh]

ye

the difference is so minimal unless your ping is ridiculous

either type of stealth you are doing (fast or slow) it does not matter

youre either full syncing them or you are prepared for a wake anyways

[modern coral]

I think the actual difference for syncing is that you can (and might want to) hit early before all glows stop, because they're stopping later on your end than on host's end.

Random glows being kind of BS is why syncing exists, and it's why multi-kills are so safe.

[patent tide]

can i write link in youtube here?

[modern coral]

Yes.

It just won't imbed.

[little ridge]

For waking shit up? eh

For dodging or to get kills fast enough that enemy X doesn't lick me IMHO it can make a difference

Especially with stuff like killing enemies in front of me as I woke them up

I could reposition so that I can occiput one of the two and spare me the trouble

but as host I can charge fast enough to get the kill on the second one way easier

Perhaps I'm spoiled since I usually prefer to host

[normal lake]

meanwhile ive played so much as client that when i host i play worse 💀

ive prob spent 20 hours as host in the entirety of my playtime in this game

[lusty river]

I stopped hosting due to internet problems

[normal lake]

yeah ive been hosting more lately since i just recently got on ethernet

[silk blade]

same reason i avoid hosting

on ethernet but the ethernet do be spotty (somehow)

[normal lake]

on wifi i get spikes of 500 ping randomly

on ethernet it never even jumps above 100

not good when you are host

[wraith marsh]

that is indeed the only thing we were talking about

[lusty river]

I also hate when people host and not disclose their location when you can tell as a client that you have significant latency in their game. Like why post in NA and not say you’re from another continent 💀

[analog flicker]

Planet earth

Good enough rite?

[lusty river]

Lmao totally

[normal lake]

Pretty much this, in my group of three players, me and one of my buddies know eachother irl, and the other lives out about 200-300 miles so its always me or my irl buddy who host since it makes more sense that way

wouldnt even consider playing this game with someone on a different continent tho

[silk blade]

my region is within several thousand kilometers of yours i promise

i swear im not on mars

[lusty river]

[normal lake]

considering you use kilometers and im in central united states its atleast several hundred miles

more likely halfway across the globe

[silk blade]

i use kilometers because in p much every class they use that system

cant do physics if you're clinging to miles

also physics problems use meters over feet

[normal lake]

yeah but when every road sign uses miles its kinda a pain to use kilometers

[analog flicker]

[silk blade]

a product of the cruel world we live in

[normal lake]

indeed

[silk blade]

same energy as there being cars that drive on other sides of the road

ngl its all those tower of babel mfs fault

hate them for making all the languages different

[normal lake]

nah i personally blame the aztecs

[silk blade]

werent they after babel

[patent tide]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6TAUjlPHRM&ab_channel=ЕгорСергиенко

its my first video

[normal lake]

yes but the two continents didnt interact between the creation of them

[normal lake]

#gtfo-media my man

[patent tide]

ok

[silk blade]

The story of Babel is they made a huge ass tower but that angered god who cursed humanity to speak different languages, so they could not work together and make a cool tower again.

How did the Aztecs cause this

[normal lake]

i was thinking of the mayans, the whole fuckin end of the world prediction in 2012 shit

clearly i know american continental history

[lusty river]

Aztecs when there’s not enough rain for the crops: yeets baby

[bitter sleet]

Ok so question. I’m new to both GTFO and the server. How can I get some help with beginner levels? I believe I’m in R1B2. I did the first two levels on my own with the bots and almost did B2 but I might need some help from actual players that I can talk to and coordinate better than having to control all bots.

[balmy moat]

#lfg-beginners

[bitter sleet]

Ok and how do I know which server I’m on? I live in PR so Central America I guess

[normal lake]

Puerto rico i believe fits best into north america lfgs but you might get away with latin america with a bit higher ping

if you are refering to puerto rico

[bitter sleet]

Yes I am.

Thanks for the help. So should I still type in #lfg-beginners or then in #lfg-north-america ?

[normal lake]

id recommend #lfg-beginners until you learn the game a bit better as otherwise you will likely end up getting carried

shouldnt be a big deal on the easier maps

[bitter sleet]

Ok. And when would you say I’m no longer a beginner? When I get 50 hours in game (example) or when I reach a certain rundown?

[merry sluice]

100+ hours give or take Id say. Depends

[normal lake]

honestly depends on who you ask

and depends on who you compare yourself to

[lusty river]

When you understand the basic mechanics of the game. It can be a loose term, doesn’t matter how many hours you’ve got in the game

[bitter sleet]

Ok. Cause imagine I would be like 100+ hours but I never pass the first level😅🤣

Then that’s pointless I guess yknow?🤣

[lusty river]

I have like 500+ hours in the game and I don’t even consider myself a professional in this game

[normal lake]

id generally say once you have full cleared r1 and gotten up to d tier in rundown 2 is about when i would say your no longer a beginner at gtfo

[merry sluice]

It took me 250-300 to complete every rundown.

[lusty river]

Pretty much what Sub is saying

[normal lake]

should no longer be struggling with most stealth and should have a firm grasp on most mechanics in the game

[bitter sleet]

Thankfully I’m a quick learner. I almost beat R1B2 with just bits. I had like 30% left on the extraction but one of the bots got in my way and I shot him and then downed him and all the others rushed to help him and I got downed and killed so failed the level by literal seconds🤣

[normal lake]

you are gonna want humans for r1c1 bots dont really cut it for that level when you are new

[merry sluice]

^

[bitter sleet]

Ok cool. I’ll keep that in mind. Also Ik every Rundown is different but are there still new things to learn each rundown?

[normal lake]

yes

[lusty river]

Yeah R1 is pretty straightforward. The rest gets more heated

[bitter sleet]

Ok cool

Oh ok cool

[normal lake]

you will have new enemies introduced as you play through rundowns

[bitter sleet]

Well I’m gonna try and ask for help later ish when I get home.

[bitter sleet]

Cool. I have only seen Markipliers play through of the game and that play through was still in early access so

[lusty river]

R1C2 is when you will encounter a new type of enemy…but I don’t want to spoil any more than that for you. You’ll have fun when you find out

[bitter sleet]

There are new things that I have been spoiled a bit because I looked up tips for GTFO beginners on YouTube lol

[normal lake]

the rundowns dont go up in difficulty is something to keep in mind, some rundowns are more difficult than others but if you are stuck on a level for example r2d1 you can go to r3 and do the a tier maps there

[bitter sleet]

I’m excited 😍😁

[lusty river]

[merry sluice]

Ya what Sub said R1-R3 are easiest rundowns with R7

R4-R5 are insane later.

[lusty river]

I would argue R6 is one of the easiest but that’s just me

[normal lake]

r1 is the easiest rundown, r3 is the second easiest, id put r6 and r2 on the same level, then r7, then r4 and r5

[merry sluice]

R6 id say if it wasnt for a few missions. R6C3 PE and R6D3 PE can be hard depending on what you know

[bitter sleet]

So the middle ones are harder? Huh. I would think last ones are hardest

[normal lake]

thats the order of difficulty for rundowns imo

[bitter sleet]

Oh cool thanks. I’ll keep that in mind.

[glass token]

Hey everyone i just need some advices about the weapons, wich one are the best ?

[normal lake]

just my opinion but i still recommend tryna do things in order

[lusty river]

I think it’s because R4-5 are the hardest for their number of side objs

[normal lake]

some of the later rundowns just kinda throw newer enemies into levels without consideration

[bitter sleet]

No yeah of course. And I’m guessing in the Rundown order it’s also story related a bit right? Even though it’s not explicitly said lol

[normal lake]

you get really good introductions to certain enemy types if you do things in order

[bitter sleet]

Ok nice

[normal lake]

generally atleast

[merry sluice]

@glass token Main - Carbine , Hel Revo , Hel Shotgun are the 3 "meta" main. For special anything works they are all good and have thier uses. The best IMO being Burst Cannon , Hel Gun

[unreal crystal]

ehhh sometimes they had some good introductions to enemies in later rundowns

[lusty river]

Use whatever is comfortable to you. Yes there are metas but it’s not always needed

[normal lake]

yeah im mostly refering to how the levels that the introduction was intended to be on generally are the best

like r7c1

[bitter sleet]

Well I’ll try and do the lobby for later. Preferably with like 3 others

[unreal crystal]

yea

r7c1 is a good one

[glass token]

Thanks i will try them

[normal lake]

mom intro in r3 is also really well done

[quartz cape]

wrong
r5 a2 overload did it better

[glass token]

I tried already a few ones but to be honest sometimes i feel confortable but it looks like i do 0 damage

[unreal crystal]

good level...

[normal lake]

hel shotgun takes some practice to use well

[quartz cape]

the introduction to fog in r2d1 is awesome

[bitter sleet]

I have been using many different weapons. I still haven’t used them all but I liked using the heavy smg

[normal lake]

if it feels like shit it is because when used wrong that weapon is dogwater

[bitter sleet]

Pretty nice

[merry sluice]

True R2D1 does do fog well.

[normal lake]

as long as you dont miss the first cell 💀

[quartz cape]

some might say the best

[unreal crystal]

guys wanna see something awesome

watch this

r2d1 sucks

works everytime

dam

[quartz cape]

what does

[bitter sleet]

lol. I have no idea what she’s talking about 😅🤣

[unreal crystal]

why r u still called bus

[normal lake]

+1

[quartz cape]

i got hit by a bus

[unreal crystal]

ok i know this

[lusty river]

Idk wym by 0 damage

[unreal crystal]

go back to a different name

[quartz cape]

alright, now im pissed

[quartz cape]

only if you do too

[unreal crystal]

my name never changes

[glass token]

Like i feel i need a lot of ammo to kill a mob

[quartz cape]

you have to be bus

[glass token]

but thank you all for your advices i will try some other weapons

[lusty river]

What weapons are you generally using

[normal lake]

calling r2d1 a bad level in gtfo server is the same equivalent of calling goku weak in a dragon ball server

[lusty river]

Ammo shouldn’t be an issue unless you’re missing most of your shots

[glass token]

Hanaway and Malatak

[thick temple]

there's a couple malataks

[unreal crystal]

dmr heavy assault rifle?

[lusty river]

Idk their fancy names, only the general names

[quartz cape]

brother which malatak

[thick temple]

i think most malataks are mains?

[lusty river]

Hanaway as in dmr or dtr

[thick temple]

oh yeah i forgot dtr is also hanaway

[normal lake]

enemies in this game generally are just fucking ammo sponges and main weapons generally suck ass

but its still something useful

[quartz cape]

whos gonna tell him about sawed off

[glass token]

in normal the double tap weapon and in special the heavy assault riffle

[merry sluice]

Okay the DTR takes a shot load of skill to use right I def dont suggest beginners using that

[normal lake]

when you gonna read the word "generally"

[quartz cape]

im sorry i cannot read

[normal lake]

valid

[quartz cape]

i love calid

[unreal crystal]

caelid

[quartz cape]

sorry i cannot spell either

all i know is bus

[lusty river]

Interesting choice. The dtr does take some skill to use its full potential. If you miss a lot of shots, it does cost you heavily. Heavy ar is not bad but it can eat up ammo. I would try carbine and choke mod for starters

[quartz cape]

just found out that if i miss shots, it will cost me

devastated rn

[bitter sleet]

I like the semi automatic shotgun? I’m not sure the name. But it’s not the choke mod one.

[lusty river]

Well with the dtr yes, but on some other weapons it won’t impact you as much

[true pilot]

pump shotgun?

[normal lake]

most of the shotguns are semi auto

[bitter sleet]

The combat shotgun there we go

That’s the one I normally use🤷🏻‍♂️

[normal lake]

combat shotgun is one of the best specials so its a good choice

[glass token]

Ok ty i will try this two right now then

I love the R1C1 btw

[bitter sleet]

What about the melee weapons? What are your guys’ choice? I like the spear rn. I can kill two enemies right next to eachother myself sometimes 😁🤣

[quartz cape]

hamr

[blissful dome]

Hammer

[bitter sleet]

Plus I like the range it has

[blissful dome]

But also spear for pain go ahead

[lusty river]

Hammer because I like bonking

[blissful dome]

Unga bunga pointy stick

[normal lake]

just use hammer if you want the objectively best melee

[bitter sleet]

Oh ok cool

[normal lake]

also be careful mentioning melee here it tends to start wars

[blissful dome]

Bat users when?

[bitter sleet]

Really? 👀

Sorry lol😅🤣

[quartz cape]

no its ok we like wars

[blissful dome]

Real

[wraith marsh]

the wars are won before they start

[normal lake]

this server basically encourages flame wars in this channel

[glass token]

Spear team right here

[blissful dome]

All my homies wanna die in a war

[quartz cape]

you can't have a team with only 1 member

[blissful dome]

Is that not the purpose of this channel?

That and artek saying carbine is pistol

[wraith marsh]

every channel*

theres nothing new to talk about what else is there to do

[blissful dome]

Well: #general usually is fine

[wraith marsh]

we dont talk about general

[quartz cape]

do NOT go in #general

[blissful dome]

Fair

[quartz cape]

worst mistake of my life

[wraith marsh]

the cursed lands

[normal lake]

if i tried debating like a semi sensible human being in any other discord server like i do here i wouldnt last 10 minutes before getting banned yet somehow i have 11k messages here

[bitter sleet]

Also gotta admit the pistol is pretty good🤣. Like the regular pistol lol

[blissful dome]

Do not the #general

[bitter sleet]

Get to pick your shots and pretty powerful lol

[lusty river]

IFO bat user?

[blissful dome]

Yes

[lusty river]

Tbh I haven’t used spear in ages

[blissful dome]

No it's slendi

[lusty river]

[blissful dome]

I just use spear/hammer

[true pilot]

we will rise in R8, when hammer will be nerfed and bat will take the place of the best melee

[blissful dome]

Meming with spear

[blissful dome]

Real

[normal lake]

last time i touched spear i had 50 hours in the game, i vomited and cried myself to sleep that night because i couldnt sprint while charging actually so cringe

[lusty river]

Nice

[blissful dome]

You can speedwalk now

Tbh the range is enough so that you don't have to run

Unless you suck at timing

[lusty river]

I stopped using knife because I kept hitting scout necks (huge skill issue, L knife user)

[blissful dome]

Just jump

L

[true pilot]

L

ngl hitting scout heads with knife isnt that bad once you get the hang of it... unless the scout decides to turn around at the last second then you are fucked

[bitter sleet]

Oh that’s another thing. I have stealth killed like 5 scouts 😅. Probably not impressive anymore considering y’all have over 500 hours in game and can basically do that blindfolded 😅🤣

[blissful dome]

Tbf I've 360ed a hammer into a scout neck before

Mb

[normal lake]

my biggest problem with scout killing knife is i have to be patient

[true pilot]

i mean stealth killing any scouts as a beginner is impressive, a lot of beginners just shoot immiedieatly

[normal lake]

and being patient waiting for a scout to show its back to me is to boring

rather just bonk bonk

[true pilot]

yeah

true

[blissful dome]

Oh my god I swear

[true pilot]

its very annoying especially during the levels where you wanna go fast

[blissful dome]

I enter a room and try to melee a scout and bro shoots it

[lusty river]

That’s actually really good. I’ve seen more not so beginner players get so scared a scout is walking in a room

[quartz cape]

i lov shooting scot

[true pilot]

m y k i l l f o o l

[bitter sleet]

I mean I just gave it a shot. I stealth killed my first ever scout and my heart was racing. Then I tried another and failed but I’ve gotten a bit better

[blissful dome]

Then I scatter them so

Word

[normal lake]

new players typically see it as a very difficult challenge when in reality after 4-5 attempts you understand just how simple it is

[true pilot]

ngl one of reason i like hel rifle is so i can shoot scouts through teammates

[blissful dome]

Real

[burnt flume]

When there's 2 scouts in the same room I shoot both of them, I promise I'm not using an exploit

[blissful dome]

Oh tbf I've shot scouts in r2e1 cause they were lined up

[bitter sleet]

Since I was just basically starting I wanted to try. I’ve seen it being done so I had an idea. I just let it walk towards me. But you gotta time it right because if it walks towards you and immediately does the tentacle thing then it’s pretty much done

[blissful dome]

Hel rifle

Must shoot

[bitter sleet]

But I have actually gotten it too as soon as it started the tentacle thing so that’s nice

[lusty river]

Hammer swing double scouts tho 😮‍💨 I need to attempt at least once

[normal lake]

2 scouts where standing on top of eachother and i attempted to kill both with scattergun

[rose nova]

om nom nom shotgun

[blissful dome]

Nah if it starts extending after you move towards it it's fine

[normal lake]

didnt work sadly

killed only one

[quartz cape]

bro forgot to play as host

[blissful dome]

Bat user identitfied

[quartz cape]

classic mistake

[bitter sleet]

I mean considering what it does I can see why beginners like me consider that impressive 😅

[bitter sleet]

Ok cool

[blissful dome]

Well

[burnt flume]

No but like

I'd shoot the scouts with high cal

[blissful dome]

Real

[normal lake]

to many beginners consider failing a scout to be the end of the world

[burnt flume]

Do you not believe in the silent shot

[normal lake]

in reality its not that big of a deal

[bitter sleet]

Still it’s fun and I consider that a big ish deal killing a scout😅. At least for right now.

[blissful dome]

A3 scout triggered immediate reset

[bitter sleet]

Yeah. I can relate. Especially if the room is filled with big guys and big shooters 😅

And you only play with bots as well lol

[lusty river]

R5E1 and you trigger a scout and you’re out of sniper rounds:

[blissful dome]

Bring scatter do better

[bitter sleet]

I wish bots automatically deployed their sentry’s and stealth killed on their on too

[blissful dome]

Sniper users when ammo count

[lusty river]

[blissful dome]

Smh

[burnt flume]

I think you're playing with the wrong sniper users

[blissful dome]

Probably

[quartz cape]

just dont play with sniper users

[burnt flume]

But anyway, hel weapons do a fine job, burst cannon too

[bitter sleet]

At least with people we can actually coordinate better. Bots I have to control their every move lol

[lusty river]

Play with me IFO I promise I’ll whiff 90% sniper shots

[blissful dome]

Real

[lusty river]

True true

[blissful dome]

I'll just bring scatter dw

And somehow whiff but

[normal lake]

beginners dont play e tier levels

[lusty river]

Bring scatter and get knocked by a shadow lick

[blissful dome]

I've played an e teir sooo

[lusty river]

You’d be surprised who joins me for E levels 🤣

[blissful dome]

Real

[bitter sleet]

Idk if it’s true but I heard you can up the difficulty of the game? Is that true? lol

[merry sluice]

I had a dude join my R4E1 and it was his 1st map ever.

[burnt flume]

Nope

[blissful dome]

REAL

[normal lake]

you can mod the game

[bitter sleet]

Oh ok.

[blissful dome]

Literally me

[normal lake]

you can run guns like precision rifle

but there is not true difficulty setting

[burnt flume]

I had someone join r4d2 as a new player, maybe only 10 hours or something, I can't remember

[bitter sleet]

Oh ok cool.

[blissful dome]

Gaddam

[bitter sleet]

I’m not gonna lower the difficulty but I just heard that somewhere and I wanted to know 🤣

[burnt flume]

You can play the harder missions or play with less players/no bots but it mostly remains the same

[bitter sleet]

Eventually I’m gonna actually solo some levels lol. With no bots 🤣

[merry sluice]

Everyone says that @bitter sleet

Then they never beat R1A1

[burnt flume]

R1a1 is pretty tough

[blissful dome]

Eventually I'm gonna throw another r1a1 run

[normal lake]

it took me 300 hours before i could solo r1a1 without bots

r1b1 is easier

[bitter sleet]

I probably won’t beat R7 or whatever the last Rundown is but hey having fun trying to solo some levels would be nice lol

[balmy moat]

I mean as long as you can shoot well some people are able to micromanage others in harder levels. Also if the new player has at least some brain cells they could also infer what to do in certain points

[bitter sleet]

Just for fun I mean

Still playing with people is probably better and more fun anyway.

[blissful dome]

R7c3 pe

Solo

When video

[normal lake]

its always good to have leadership in the group esspecially when that leader knows how to use a terminal and read objectives

[blissful dome]

At the same time, if they're joining an e level as a noob... Do you expect them to be able to infer stuff

[bitter sleet]

Also I’m ok with the terminal. There’s probably more stuff to know about the terminal but generally I’m pretty good. Since bots can’t use the terminal lol🤣

[sharp siren]

binding bot actions would be nice

but stealth killing you just have to take the initiative to kill

theyll follow along

[balmy moat]

It depends on the skill set. When I first started out I was a noob, but able to true solo levels in R6 since I had no friends

[blissful dome]

Debatable

[bitter sleet]

Yeah I have killed enemies and then one goes to wake up and they all rush him immediately 🤣

[balmy moat]

So yea, if they are a good gamer, I do expect some level of inference

[normal lake]

if your lucky the bots will actually kill the sleeper they walk up to

[sharp siren]

i mean theyll follow....... its another debate if its gonna shoot or melee

[normal lake]

the other half of the time they just watch it scream

[bitter sleet]

Very rarely tbh.

[lusty river]

Bots when they start to melee mid alarm 😭

[sharp siren]

if a bot even comes in contact with a sleeper that sleeeper screams its cancel

[bitter sleet]

Also the tentacles don’t touch the bots

[blissful dome]

The bot lining up an entire ww1 mg spray on me for moving towards a glowing sleeper

[sharp siren]

dauda mag dumping all 60 veruta shots on my back because the giant woke up

[lusty river]

Give bot sniper trust

[blissful dome]

Real

[bitter sleet]

Like they touch it but they don’t trigger it and they run right next to sleepers and I’m here like dang it you’ll wake them up but nope. Nothing happens if they just run or even go through them 🤣

[blissful dome]

Scatter bot

[lusty river]

[normal lake]

okay so now we are lying

[normal lake]

half the time they just shoot the sleeper and by the sleeper i mean the player because generally they are behind you during stealth

[sharp siren]

?

[bitter sleet]

Also what tips do you guys have for me? Like what should I focus on more or stuff like that. Not necessarily spoilers I guess but y’know what should I work on?

[wraith marsh]

its not direct but that is true

the sleeper is now targeting the bot

and therefore the scream will be canceled by bots being funny

[bitter sleet]

Yeah. They’re always right on top of me lol

[blissful dome]

The bots giving me that Normandy treatment for a kill .1 seconds after a sleeper wakes

[sharp siren]

A bot can literally just shove the sleeper

and it will cancel the scream

even if it fully plays the animation

[little ridge]

How to do a room without waking anything up, then do the same but faster

[wraith marsh]

pretty sure you can do some stupid shit with bot's sentries since enemies wont scream in a sleeping room if theyre shot by it

[little ridge]

How to bonk a scout

[normal lake]

focus more on speed when you are playing, losing a run 30 minutes in is a lot less annoying than at the same spot 2 hours in.

dont rush per say

but just learn to play stealth quickly without taking unecessary risk

[bitter sleet]

What about killing the giant sleeper guys? That’s a four player job

[little ridge]

Not if you're good at the timing

[bitter sleet]

Yeah that’s true lol

[merry sluice]

Learn to solo them its not hard with Hammer

[little ridge]

Get behind him, full charge bonk occiput (head from behind) then like half-charge (or less) to a limb to stagger

[normal lake]

its doable alone without bots but its hard to do without waking a room, if you have bots its a lot easier generally

[little ridge]

Enemies get more damage when you hit them from the back, so use that to your advantage

[bitter sleet]

Oh ok ok

I may try it today lol

Before I play with people🤣

[true pilot]

and ofc the biggest piece of advice ever: dont die

[little ridge]

It ain't easy but ehi, you asked for stuff to train on

[normal lake]

yeah generally head hits do more damage, back hits do more damage, and back of head does far more damage

its a good rule of thumb for most enemies

[bitter sleet]

No I know and thanks for all your advice/tips

[blissful dome]

Wait what... stealthing experience changed

Oh wow nice reply feature discord

[normal lake]

cant really give specifics without spoiling enemy types

[bitter sleet]

Playing with people is gonna be a lot better and I’m gonna probably learn better and do better

Also if I play with someone let’s say R1B2 does it pass it for all of us or do we have to do it 4 separate times in their lobbies for them to complete the level?

[little ridge]

pass for all

[bitter sleet]

Ok cool

[blissful dome]

Ask for carry :D

[bitter sleet]

Thanks again. Who know maybe I’ll help some people😁

[true pilot]

if this is how it worked it would be so much more annoying for some levels

[true pilot]

=(

[little ridge]

I'd have quitted at r5d1 extreme

[bitter sleet]

I’d love to but I heard it’s not allowed😜

[true pilot]

yeahhhhhh

[normal lake]

everyone gets the W even if you are down at the end of the match so team killing at extract is highly encouraged

[bitter sleet]

Yeah that’s why I was like oh no it’s gonna suck🤣

[merry sluice]

Ya R5D1 Extreme is the most snooze shit ever

[blissful dome]

RAHHHH

[blissful dome]

Carry me r1a1 ong ong

[little ridge]

IMHO it just has way too much fluff alarms in main

It's basically "the key is in another zone" ad nauseam

[analog flicker]

Rah

[merry sluice]

Its the slow ass stealth for extreme its so fuckin easy for how slow you need to go

[blissful dome]

:D

[normal lake]

nah the most boring level in the game gotta be r5a3pe

[merry sluice]

Its just dodge 10000 shadows giants .

[normal lake]

literally nearly fell asleep playing that level

[merry sluice]

Me too

[bitter sleet]

Getting carried would be fun but at the same time I do wanna learn the game and stuff

Like rn I wanna play with Subtonix🤣

[blissful dome]

Real

[normal lake]

i dont do lfgs like ever

[true pilot]

Gotta love wiping to ||Pmom|| at the very end

[blissful dome]

Need r7a1 carry rah

[bitter sleet]

Oh you don’t play with people?

[normal lake]

also why me im prob the worst option of the people here

[bitter sleet]

🥲💔

[blissful dome]

Nahhhh

[normal lake]

i have a dedicated group outside this server

[blissful dome]

Having friends

[burnt flume]

||R4e1 memories||

[blissful dome]

Lame

[true pilot]

I dont think getting carried is fun in this game, you just basically do what someone tells you to do

[bitter sleet]

Idk lol you’re just the first one that showed me you knew a ton at the game lol🤣

[true pilot]

Rip

[little ridge]

I know that feel

[burnt flume]

Happened to me twice, first as 4 and then as duo

[little ridge]

Noone of us had any strategy for that room and we decided to rush back

Someone opened the wrong door

[bitter sleet]

True but it’s also nice having someone that knows and is willing to teach you which is a soft carry imo. Meaning I’m getting carried but I’m also helping and learning

[normal lake]

im at the inbetween stages where i have not completely finished the game but have a lot of play time

[bitter sleet]

Oh ok cool

[blissful dome]

Ong ong

[normal lake]

if we where to play together i would likely just hang back and just follow your instructions while only awnsering questions if asked

[little ridge]

Tell you what: I started getting better at this game when I started watching some speedruns and getting an idea of how much I could get away with

[blissful dome]

Is that not how you're supposed to

[true pilot]

Yeah that would be nice, but some people just carry in such a way you dont know what you are doing, why are you doing it etc

[bitter sleet]

I don’t think the noob should tell anything to a player with 500+ hours😅🤣

[normal lake]

from my understanding some people when they carry just say nothing and speedrun the maps while leaving the new player in the dirt

[normal lake]

havent even hit 400 yet im not that much of a boomer

[true pilot]

Yup pretty much

[blissful dome]

Ong

[bitter sleet]

I have the gist of the game and I learn pretty fast but just having like 3 pro players that speed run and do literally everything themselves where I could literally just stay still at the beginning would probably suck 🤣

[normal lake]

your job would be standing in team scans and thats about it

[bitter sleet]

Oh I maybe have misread someone saying 500 hours lol

[blissful dome]

I mean you still have to do the scans

[bitter sleet]

Yup

[true pilot]

and maybe you get to fire a couple sho- oh they perma foamed the door

[bitter sleet]

Perma foamed?👀

There’s permanent c-foam ?

lol

[merry sluice]

No

[true pilot]

Refoam a door for the entire alarm

[bitter sleet]

Spoilers🤣

Oh ok makes more sense

[normal lake]

its just using cfoam to refoam doors as enemies break them down

[blissful dome]

Real

[merry sluice]

ITs jsut a strat called "perma foam"

[blissful dome]

Pull every room

[merry sluice]

Perma foam + 1 mine makes so many levels 100x easier once you learn it

[bitter sleet]

Makes more sense lol

[blissful dome]

Tank respawn room?

Pull

[merry sluice]

R6D3?

Pull it twitce

[normal lake]

yeah this is why i dont use this strategy

[merry sluice]

Pull it 3 times for more fun

[blissful dome]

Yesssss

[true pilot]

then theres some funny alarms with all full team scans =)

[bitter sleet]

It’s also a strat to open certain doors and leave some closed so they have a set path to get to you guys and maybe they take more time

[true pilot]

i feel like devs made them specifically to make perma foaming impossible

[normal lake]

cfoam is the worst tool not counting hel sentry and shotgun sentry

cannot change my mind

[blissful dome]

Door glitch then finally find the button to shoot yourself in gtfo

[bitter sleet]

What? Shotty sentry is bad? lol that’s the one I’m using 🤣

[blissful dome]

Its

[true pilot]

Dont need to, your teammates will shoot you first

[blissful dome]

Real