gtfo-chat

[analog flicker]

AR?

[modern coral]

AR drum mag, but w/ 30 capacity and pitiful damage.

[balmy scarab]

I'd say it brings the "scrappy" or "mass produced" feeling to them.

[analog flicker]

reloads 29 instead of 30

[normal lake]

yeah ar is a little goofy nobody would ever want a fucking drum mag in a high intensity situation

[analog flicker]

While AR dmg is comparable to PDW. Pdw dps / reload is just way faster

[normal lake]

they jam easily, they are bulky and hard to carry

[analog flicker]

A bitch to reload

[normal lake]

and in this case dont really provide a bigger amount of ammo

[modern coral]

I think even HAR doesn't have a drum

Yet same capacity + more damage.

Like ????

[normal lake]

just having a extended mag would work fine

yeah har doesnt lmfao

no drum mag, assumedly bigger bullets since it hits harder and still a mag size of 30

[analog flicker]

I really liked when Dak made AR have 40 mag capacity

In occlusion

[balmy moat]

Make it 50

[analog flicker]

But he changed it back and gave it 2.9 dmg/slower RoF instead

[analog flicker]

45

[balmy moat]

Realistically speaking a mag in real life holds 30 bullets max

Compare that to something in GTFO, if we eagle-eye the mag sizes they are bigger than irl

Technically speaking they should be holding more ammo

[normal lake]

yeah i mean hel revolver literally has 6 chambers and you fire 8 bullets

[balmy moat]

But what am I to say this isn’t a tactical shooter or some shit

[normal lake]

devs didnt put much thought in the whole maximum ammo thing

[analog flicker]

I despise that. Some people still describe GTFO as a tactical shooter.

[balmy moat]

Lol all they have to do is make the cylinder from a hexagon to an octagon

It doesn’t seem that hard

Just add an extra face and two lines

[analog flicker]

Game dev hard

[balmy moat]

Yea

[modern coral]

Add a speed loader

Nerf prisoner telekenesis.

[normal lake]

I still think sawed off is one of the best designed guns in the game, it looks handcrafted but easily strong enough to put up with the buckshot rounds, 3 chambers, 3 bullets, and generally just a cool looking gun

[analog flicker]

Hsmg magneto reloads

[normal lake]

that and no unecessary bullshit on the gun if anything id complain about the weird stock / pistol grip thing they have going on

[balmy moat]

At least the pistol grips are more realistic than the other stocks

We got some insane stocks in GTFO

The amount of weight it adds…

Jeez

[analog flicker]

I can tell you Arbalist/veruta/combatshotgun/carbine/hsmg all run the same frame

[balmy moat]

Might as well bring out the nerf gun stocks XD

[normal lake]

the only reason i let it slide is because there are high caliber pistols irl they just take a lot of control to use

but yeah gtfo guns are alright, not to immersion breaking

they may hit like nerf guns but at least they dont look like nerf guns

[balmy moat]

Deagle

[silk blade]

My assumption is the bullets are large

[balmy moat]

I’d say the high cal is less than a .50 caliber

[silk blade]

Cause shooting a sleeper with small size bullets seems like it'd be ineffective

[balmy moat]

Burst cannon’s bullet caliber is massive

[silk blade]

So my guess is all guns shoot p large bullets

Which takes up more space

[silk blade]

Literally

Burst cannon with the .95s

[balmy moat]

You could probably get away with 5.56 NATO with sleepers

But we can safely assume they are .308s

At least

[normal lake]

My guess would be that high cal pistol uses a 44 round since there is def no way in hell you are getting a rifle round in that small ass mag

[silk blade]

It'd be cool if a dev just popped in to confirm

But there's no way

Right...?

[normal lake]

you can see bullets be ejected from the chamber on some guns

[balmy moat]

Tbh I doubt devs took this into consideration

[silk blade]

This is true

[balmy moat]

.95s realistically speaking you aren’t gonna carry 60+ of

[normal lake]

If guns where realistic its not the gun that does the damage its the bullet

[balmy moat]

It’s almost the size of the gernade launcher shells

[normal lake]

its pretty much all down to bullet size if your gun doesnt have major problems

[balmy moat]

The higher the bullet caliber the heavier it is

You don’t see a prisoner carrying a m203 with like a hundred projectiles

[normal lake]

but balancing damage according to bullets is not good at balancing a game like gtfo

[sharp siren]

According to friend whos a physician he told me that the prisioners are quite healthy

[balmy moat]

We got superhuman strength here

[sharp siren]

like really healthy

[normal lake]

i mean you got these mfs carrying 100+ pounds of equipment while hauling ass and swinging a massive sledgehammer

id struggle to walk under the conditions these bastards sprint in

[balmy moat]

Let’s assume the auto sentry fires a .22 round

And let’s say a prisoner is carrying a sentry + 550 rounds

[rose nova]

the auto sentry shoots mini ping pong balls for stagger

[balmy moat]

Each .22 round weighs roughly 2.6 grams

[sharp owl]

The auto sentry shoots tungsten

[balmy moat]

That’s 1430 grams

[sharp owl]

That somehow penetrates and staggers at the same time

[normal lake]

good news it doesnt actually penetrate in its current state so we dont have to consider that

[sharp owl]

Not like those are opposite concepts

[balmy moat]

So in addition to the sentry weight, which we’ll say 30 lbs, that’s already 33 lbs you’re carrying on your back

[sharp owl]

pounds

Do not

You are insulting the mass

[balmy moat]

Now factor in your other things you bring

A 20 lbs sledge is nowhere close to the size of what’s in game

In game is much larger

Probably like 40 lbs

[sharp siren]

theyre navy seals

[balmy moat]

That’s already 73 lbs

[normal lake]

assuming you brought 2 assault rifles your looking at 20ibs

[sharp owl]

They're 50 year old dudes

Also

[normal lake]

including what is likely 7.76 rounds

[sharp owl]

Pistol/pistol biotracker knife

[balmy moat]

If you bring burst cannon you’re already adding at least 10 lbs

.95s probably weigh a fuck ton

You have around 60 .95s

[sharp owl]

Are we calculating the maximum amount of weight you can bring

[normal lake]

its the best metric if you are calculating strength since weight of weapons dont harm stamina usage

[sharp owl]

So we're calculating the max weight so we can calculate our strength in the best case scenario

[balmy moat]

I’d say navy seals can carry 100 lbs no problem

But if they’re 50 years old that’s an issue

[sharp owl]

Roids

[balmy moat]

No military personnel who’s in a unit is over the age of 40 really

And that’s probably being very lenient

[normal lake]

us navy seal rucksacks support up to 100 Pounds according to a quick google search

[modern coral]

It's those boosters.

[normal lake]

so yeah its pretty easy to assume the prisoners are military levels

[sharp owl]

They have military training

[balmy moat]

It doesn’t matter if you have training

If you’re older you grow weaker

That’s just have biology works

[sharp owl]

Physical conditioning is a part of training

[balmy moat]

You also have to take account that they got the virus in them

That probably weakens them further

[sharp owl]

Doesn't matter

No

The virus progress resets everytime they get in a hsu

[balmy moat]

Resets?

[normal lake]

honestly not really sure if the prisoners are even wearing armor either

[balmy moat]

That doesn’t seem right

[sharp owl]

Starts from 0

[balmy moat]

Then why tf just not put everyone in an HSU pod

Then when they reach 99 just put them in and take ‘em out

[sharp owl]

We didn't know

[balmy moat]

Solves the world’s issues tbh

[sharp owl]

Not enough pods

Reinfection

[balmy moat]

R5E1 pod room

[wraith stratus]

Memory loss galore

[balmy moat]

[sharp owl]

I think i had this problem with frosty discussed

[modern coral]

I think memory problems + the tech is not widespread used that way + that's kind of what's happening already, just not voluntarily.

[sharp owl]

We didn't come to a solution and settled on plot hole

[modern coral]

Everyone still alive is participating in hydrostasis.

[sharp owl]

Stateoftrutham

[normal lake]

idk gtfo lore enough for this convo so ima go play 7 days

[sharp owl]

Idk when his last broadcast was actually

[modern coral]

Well, I guess not literally everyone

[balmy moat]

Ray R3D1 today?

[modern coral]

WHO expedition was alive for a long time.

[sharp owl]

I want to know how

[modern coral]

After Uni 🙏

[wispy bluff]

The one where he breaks down, probably... Lets see if there's dates on it

[sharp owl]

How did WHO do anything

After 3 years

He breaks down?

Aw poor lad

Did he have to put down his wife or something

[modern coral]

Yes, although the log makes it sound more like he was the one losing it.

[wispy bluff]

meta3.date_stamp(570613.174223)

this tells me nothing

[sharp owl]

Welp.

Being the sole survivor of an apocalypse will probably do that to your mental health

Thankfully us KSOs don't need to deal with that because we go into a premium coma when we're not needed

This is one of the funnies of prepping

Your bunker can support life for 8 years but you'll go insane after 2

[balmy scarab]

So, after two years the bunker matures into a Fallout POI?

[sharp owl]

Whats a poi

[wispy bluff]

Point Of Interest

[grim leaf]

i missread that as joi, god damn it

[sharp owl]

Sound like paranoia got mr state of truth

He shot his wife

Lets go

Conspiracies will do that to you
Especially if you're proven right

As he was

They replaced his wife with an identical copy of her! How could he not

So rude of them. I hope mrs truth is doing ok with the government

[silk blade]

thats why you need a hobby

reading is a good one

you should always download a library's worth of pdfs to a small reading tablet

and have a hand crank charger for it in case of power issues

though in GTFO's scenario, solar power would probably be fine

[sharp owl]

That's a smart way to do stuff

Nice

[silk blade]

i mean lets be real

GTFO scenario is like

absolute worst

cause it doesnt really end + you are stuck after the protagonists "resolve" the issue

[sharp owl]

GTFO is not survivable

It is if you have plot armour like the who patient zero team

Take off your suit to poo, you're infected now

Now that i think of it the ISS is like.. bing chilling up there

Maybe some saturation divers as well are kinda chilling and starving at the bottom of the ocean

Greenland should be fine

[silk blade]

if you fully isolated yourself in a hermetically sealed bunker before a certain point

you would live

space would work but not too well cause the ISS needs pretty constant resupplies from what i remember

they are already dead when the game story starts

saturation divers could be alive, but it depends on if the virus can live on the fish/seaweed/plants you would be eating

greenland is only fine if the disease cant travel by bird or similar

[silk blade]

this is probably the best situation

large sealed bunker that is self sustaining

[rare jacinth]

The disease is an extreme bioaerosol.

[silk blade]

i did not take high level biology

is it just like

it infects through all vectors or w/e

[rare jacinth]

Ah in that case, if you enjoy breathing then be thankful the disease isn't real

[sharp siren]

theres probably like normal people somehwere in gtfo

i higjly doubt there isnt ANYONE

on earth roaming around

earth its big, reeeeaalllly big

pockets of people somehwere

[rare jacinth]

I will not post spoilers

[sharp siren]

post it

[rare jacinth]

But you should look for logs

[sharp siren]

hell naw

i stopped following after r6

shit story

[rare jacinth]

I like the story

To each their own

[sharp siren]

looking for emails or parts opf it got really old after EA

[quartz cape]

Bro missed the Eric Chapman log…

[sharp siren]

the highly of this shitty story

was shaceffer

having wild sex

with specimen 22

on cx

[true pilot]

id say Maddox asmr was better

poor madox

[quartz cape]

“ARE YOU A KOCK OR A BALLS PERSON”

[sharp owl]

"YES"

[random chasm]

Please Help... Join My Session and changed the loadouts to Bio tracker (Apperently theres a troll)

[true pilot]

bot loadouts?

[random chasm]

Yes

Join, changed, and out

[true pilot]

if so you cant change them without a diff person

so if you are solo thats a rip

[random chasm]

Welll... shits

[true pilot]

F

[sharp owl]

109775243025719483

just gotta-

aight

[rigid girder]

Hey guys, any tips for R4D2?
We only go through the main task. We can't pass to the Zone101. Too many charges. :(

[wispy bluff]

Uh, is that an alarm? Which class, how does the room look like?

[burnt flume]

mines + cfoam is great for the alarms, take your time to find the resources, there's 0 time pressure
there is a side zone you can go into for resources
don't choose stupid guns

other than that I'm not sure what to suggest other than shooting better

[rigid girder]

VII class. bridge in the middle, and three doors on each side

[burnt flume]

the apex door mixed alarm, I think that one is

[rigid girder]

We examined all available areas, except for additional ones. We had three turrets at 20-30% each. Today we will try a combination with mines and foam, thank you.

[rigid girder]

Will there be something more complicated next, or is that all?

[burnt flume]

eh

that's all I'll tell you about what comes next, eh

[junior latch]

oh yeah @rigid girder you can shoot a lot of the alarms early on to preserve some tool

[wispy bluff]

If that's the room with 3 bridges / trenches - that's pretty much the final alarm-alarm, you're very close to the end of the level.
Cfoam + mines is an overpowered combo on that level. Just have the CFOAM guy triviliase all alarms prior to this, then go batshit crazy on all the doors in that room and put sentry in a spot where its most likely to shoot someone (or have the sentry carrier do some bold deployments).

[junior latch]

technically the one before the one you are struggling on is great to shoot with hel revo and hel rifle

[rigid girder]

Yeah, exactly this one.

[wispy bluff]

And yeah, gear up your guns for chargers.

HEL Rifle shreds them, shotguns shred them. Mains... Carbine, i suppose? Something with raw damage, not prec damage.

[rigid girder]

Thank you very much guys. I appreciate it.

[junior latch]

hel rifle > all

on chargers

[rigid girder]

Precision Rifle?

[junior latch]

sucks ass vs chargers

its a heavily precision based weapon with "comparably" low base dmg

hel rifle cleanly 1 shots them anywhere and has penetration

precision rifle needs 3 hits per chargers

[burnt flume]

yeah precision rifle is definitely not a choice pick vs chargers

[rigid girder]

Oh, I did not know it.

This is simply my favorite weapon that I rarely change.

I thought it was quite versatile.

[junior latch]

mmh

[burnt flume]

it serves pretty well when you're dealing with regular enemies and does ok against some other enemies, but there's definitely more versatile picks

[junior latch]

its good vs smalls (but has lots of competition that usually better) and great vs shadows
its also pretty neat vs bosses

sucks vs chargers. rly doesnt wanna face giants

[rigid girder]

Thanks guys. You are best.

[wispy bluff]

Fuck this

Tried to solo R3A3 for shits and giggles again

[burnt flume]

with bots?

[wispy bluff]

Just closed the expedition when 4/6 scout got awakened with 40 seconds on the clock

[burnt flume]

oh no you got the rng scout as well

[wispy bluff]

The wave before that was very rough as well

Once 3 giants + 2 hybrids spawned and waddled happily towards a single burst sentry... Yeah.

A whole minute wasted just trying to clear out the reactor hole so that i could query the fucking terminal at least

[vestal crystal]

😦

[wispy bluff]

On a side note: i discovered burst sentry makes an amazing battle buddy for PR users.

I take a shot.
If its a head - it dies.
If its a body - sentry takes a burst and finishes it.

Including shooters too.

[burnt flume]

dmr with extra steps...

well, I guess it one shot kills on a headshot but still

[wispy bluff]

Hm. Some HEL weapon in one form or another could be exceptionally useful here...

Also 431 zone and its 50 stories can suck my A

Just casually leaving 2 ammopacks behind because i have no time to search for them

[junior latch]

zone 431?

also why did you have only one 1 burst sentry down

[wispy bluff]

Well, because sniper sentry was permanently assigned to overwatch our flanks (which were opened by this point, its just no one decided to spawn there).
And i brought a mine deployer to do bold mining in a pinch, because i was honestly ready to redo some waves and would attempt to at least give myself a shot with a couple mined doors. Probably a bad idea either way - those damn rooms are too tight, doors are too few, and value of a mine is greatly reduced without a cfoam to assist.

But once i fucked up a headshot on scout and it went into inv-state, i just gave up. Redoing a 4/6 wave AND doing a scout wave? With bots?
I'd say that i would rather shoot myself, but effectively that is what i did when i smashed "EXIT EXPEDITION".

[junior latch]

if you hold on "bridge" it will only spawn behind once youve opened 3 zones

[rose nova]

enemies don't spawn behind until the room with the scout it's opened, so after that wave

there the sniper sentry can help tons for its range

[junior latch]

aka after you did the 2nd zone in the west

they can actually spawn behind earlier

if you hold in reactor

[rose nova]

also hel guns on that level yeh they nice, i used hel gun for my clear

quick reload and stagger for hybrids

[normal lake]

Without spoiling the levels is there anything my team should be running for r6bx and cx or are both of the levels pretty chill, got two bots today

[silk blade]

i usually run a mine deployer + bio + 2 burst if im going in blind

guns are pretty up to you

just use what you like

[wispy bluff]

Biobot, as always.

[silk blade]

yes bot bio is efficient

give the other a sentry

cause mines are a pain to use with bots

[normal lake]

yeah thing is im not wanting to do these levels fully blind not feeling like dealing with major suprises, just wanna know if mines are a good choice on the level or maybe if a scattergun is also a good choice

[wispy bluff]

BX... Mines will come in useful, so is cfoam. Just the default loadout really. Although multiple turrets could work as well if you're quick about their placements and picks ups.

[normal lake]

Gotcha

[silk blade]

guns are truly up to you

if u want

give a bot the burst cannon

if you dont stand in front of it

[wispy bluff]

CX though... 80% of that level is just a normal level, but final 20% will roll the dice on bots wether or not they will ruin it for you.

[silk blade]

it will use it to great efficiency

(bots can burst cancel which is a removed mechanic)

((also burst cannon bots are very precise))

[normal lake]

bots are bots they always run the same weapons

im not gonna bother fucking with there loadouts

[silk blade]

ok

then just use whatever guns you are good with

[normal lake]

im not giving bots a gun that does so much damage

i like having hp

[silk blade]

taking a gun that is good for the level even if you are bad with it is worse than taking a gun that is ok for a level but you are good with it

[normal lake]

Noted

is it a case of them not standing in circles or just being shitheads

[normal lake]

im good with basically all the guns in the game mostly just checking to see if scatter is good because potential high quantity of giants / hybrids and possible tanks or mothers without actually being told why the weapons a good choice

keep the levels as blind as possible without going in and getting fucked over by just choosing the wrong loadout

[wispy bluff]

Latter. The final part of the level has a lot of verticality going for it with a lot of movement involved. There's a decent chance a bot will get confused, lost and stuck on some ladder somewhere.

But, if you're quick - you can just kick him from the lobby and read him when his presence is no longer required.

[normal lake]

This is so normal for my team that it wont be a issue lmfao

anyways onto bx thanks boys

ax had some suprises as in it was not a tier diff at all so just gotta verify

[wispy bluff]

All X level of R6 got pushed down in alt. AX used to BX and so on.

[balmy moat]

I wonder why they pushed it down

[wispy bluff]

One theory is for aeshetics as it evens out the visual distribution of levels - OG R6 was a little... Bottom heavy, with 5(!) Ds.

[normal lake]

prob something stupid is to make it look cleaner

[balmy moat]

Eh I prefer old R6, it looks a lot better than now imo

[wispy bluff]

Another theory is for lore reasons as events take a different chronological order now.

OG DX was chronologically after D1. Now - a CX - it happens before D1.

Could be a combination of both. I can only speculate which idea came first and which followed.

[analog flicker]

Weren't they mislabeled back then or whatever as A/B/C anyhow despite the BX/CX/DX

Now Alt R6. It's just corrected

Just sounds like weird theories and speculation

[wispy bluff]

I remember people complaining that DX is not a D tier mission (for what its worth neither was D1 in their eyes).

Otherwise...

But lore did got chronologically changed, that's a fact.

[analog flicker]

It was only a D tier mission when Flyers were doing double damage imo

[earnest forge]

Well, there was the distinct "yellow" color, hinting at story levels, which arguably were meant to be easier so that most players could beat them and enjoy the story

[analog flicker]

But without the double damage flyers. It's easily manageable

[earnest forge]

R6D1 is like a mid C-tier expedition

[analog flicker]

R6 Ds are like ramping difficulty

[junior latch]

and even that is like eh

and depends on what you compare them to

[earnest forge]

Agreed, but I get the idea of "story levels", as long as there is decent alternatives / other levels in the tier to enjoy the expected difficulty

And adding a couple hidden challenges along the way helped as well (speaking of the Reactor Skip here for R6D1)

[junior latch]

R1D1, R2D1 (alt obviously), R2D2, R3D1, R4D1, R4D2, R5D1, R5D2
other R6Ds, R7D1 and D2

[analog flicker]

R6D1 when no sniper

And well I meant r6 alone.

[junior latch]

R1D1 is easier
R2D1 is similar at least
R2D2 and R3D1 feel slightly more challenging
R4D1 and D2 are step ups
R5 are just fucked compared to the others honestly
R6Ds are all harder after D1
R7 are similar to R4-6 later ones imo

people also said R6B1 was an A tier

its rly not

its so comparable to a lot of B tier missions

[analog flicker]

I can ironically agree with that.

R6B1 is like introduction to scouts

[trim heath]

R6B1 is the one where you have the spaghetti room right?

[analog flicker]

Considering og r6 was 1.0 launch. I get it.

[junior latch]

[earnest forge]

Introduction to flyers as well, yes

[junior latch]

spaghetti room, when theres multiple of those over rundowns

and no you are probably thinking of r6c1

[trim heath]

yeah I must be

[junior latch]

people also said R1 was harder than R6

[analog flicker]

Bishop getting tp'd and lost contact

[junior latch]

it was a lot of spite

plus it being after R4 and R5

[earnest forge]

Telemetry ?

"God Dammit !"

[analog flicker]

Sadly

That log is in a different level now

[earnest forge]

I like that they kept my favorite version of it though

Where Stokes voice breaks a bit

Funny that the audio would play 3? different versions in OG

I do not remember exactly, but you could hear different takes

Of course, people who do not care about audio log will just say "wtf are you talking about"
But it was nice to hear different takes on the same lines of dialogue from the same voice actress

[analog flicker]

But where the Log from OG R6CX

Everyone's voices

[earnest forge]

Oh, the one we contributed for, the Conduit / Unit data to make it learn how "humans speak"

Good question

Maybe it was just a fun way to get the community involved

Nevertheless I liked the idea

[analog flicker]

On another thought. The wiki has a Page on reload/reload canceling

[earnest forge]

With the bot interaction and all. They probably got quite a few "funni" samples to sort through

[analog flicker]

[earnest forge]

I will leave the wiki experts answer that

[analog flicker]

I just don't like how

It's listing Bullpup as

Ammo load time: 2.22s
Reload time: 2.1s

But goddamn

Hel shotgun being 2.63 seconds on a cancel

3 seconds without

Revolver got me loving super fast reloads man

0.77 seconds

[junior latch]

the wiki reload times are the 1 thing i dont take as accurate

[burnt flume]

there is funny stuff with regards to how the order of events for reloading can change values

[analog flicker]

Probably right but doesn't change the fact I'm so used to having fast reloading weapons

[normal lake]

i list res for zone 184, single medipack, i go to that zone and ping it, the ping is in zone 186

this game is so fucking trash

[analog flicker]

I would ask for specifics

But

I'm a little too lazy to think that hard

[normal lake]

i have no clue i thought i was losing my fucking mind but i was pinging something out of the zone

[balmy moat]

Did someone move it?

[normal lake]

was in a closed box so i dont think so

[analog flicker]

Did you join mid game / joined back mid game?

[normal lake]

no i didnt

im just gonna chop it up to gtfo having a moment

[wispy bluff]

Even i havent encountered something like that, but it truly is a GTFO moment

[rose nova]

even i lol

but yeah i dont remember that happenin to me ever but

gtfo is um just feelin silly

[frozen kite]

@normal lake did you LIST RES 184?

because 184 would show items with 184 in the tag too

and not the zone

whereas E_184 is the zone specifically

[shut vapor]

This is fax

[normal lake]

even if i listed the wrong zone i was still pinging a item in a completely different zone

even then i know i didnt list wrong zone because i double checked

[frozen kite]

it was actually pinging?

[normal lake]

yeah 2 zones over

[frozen kite]

from 184 into 186?

weird

yeah never seen that behaviour

[normal lake]

first time in my 400 hours playing this game

thought i was losing my mind cus i couldnt find it

was like tf

[balmy moat]

Only time I've seen this behavior is when someone moved the item from that zone to another and dropped it

[analog flicker]

[gusty burrow]

See the Bugs section of that page for why

[gusty burrow]

That page is accurate, reload times are taken direct, reload cancel times have been meticulously timed by heart-felt

[analog flicker]

I can imagine why ngl but it's just hilarious seeing it

While you're here tru

We ever figure out the multi snatcher bug in r7d1?

All I know is ppl saying it was related to desync

[pine root]

just dont have 4 poeple in the lobby

if you dont want 4 snatchers

[gusty burrow]

It is related to number of players in lobby

[normal lake]

Bro for secondary of r6bx we couldnt find zone 252 so we kited invis around for 15 minutes thinking it was connected to zone 250 when it was in 249

literally none of us had ammo left so it was just us sprinting around

Blind no checkpoint runs are the only way to play this game

[sharp owl]

When the door closes and got speed c-foamed before you could slide in

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108

[vague vortex]

I really hope that the devs adds all of the voice lines in the game

[sly vale]

R6BX(secondary) timestamp:
10:00 wave of smalls
8:00 3 of giants
7:00 wave of shadows(about 21)
3:50 3 of shadow giants
2:30 wave of shadows(about 30)
after 30s of countdown end:trigger endless shadows alarm
In the second half of the countdown, if there is any thermal scope and bio tracker, the difficulty is small tbh. U should advance the mission goal in time.

[normal lake]

already finished the level just had our own difficulties because the location of zone 252 wasnt exactly clear

the part meant to be done in 10 minutes took us 25 minutes

much like how r6c3pe took us 55 minutes instead of 30 minutes, honestly dont know how we keep getting away with this

no checkpoints used tho

[void urchin]

So what is the progression in this game

[true pilot]

unlocking more levels and getting cosmetics

and perhaps the greatest of them all

gettting skill

[void urchin]

skill?

oh

overall

[true pilot]

yeah

you get good

[somber vine]

any beginners

looking to match up

[simple arrow]

me

[somber vine]

I send an invite in the IFG beginner

[simple arrow]

welcome any experienced peeps that wanna show us some ropes

[somber vine]

or any beginners

looking for two more gamers

[thick epoch]

does anyone knows yoki hanajaab? its a discord user.

[crude bay]

Im free later😅

[thick epoch]

im free for everyday.

[crude bay]

Thats interesting 😏

[dry plaza]

beginner here

LFG

just finished Game tutorials

[crude bay]

Try #lfg-beginners and best of luck 🍺

[rose nova]

hello! u can check the LFG channels to share n join lobbies! the instructions are in https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/653623062964731920

just some advice!
always ask to not be carried, make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel
and if you are new be sure to do the tutorial first [Training] and start on rundown 1 since its the simplest one

[vagrant cloud]

I'm honestly wondering why this game isn't getting more attention (looking at the subreddit) when it's truly an entirely unique and amazing experience

[silk blade]

It's hard I guess

[rose nova]

ksmdksm

[silk blade]

And you need 4 people

[vagrant cloud]

Like unless you're the most casual gamer in existence or a league player idk how ANYONE can dislike this game

the difficulty is the biggest appeal imo

[silk blade]

You also can't use in game match making and have to join the discord

[rose nova]

eh its niche, i love it i adore it its probs one of my fav games

[vagrant cloud]

if it was easy it would just be another objective shooter

[restive marsh]

payday but spooky

[rose nova]

but it is a bit funky to get into, cause like sneak and shootin and slow fps gaming, for me its a perfect combo but depends on who u ask it to

[vagrant cloud]

Made by payday devs

[restive marsh]

i know lol

[rose nova]

by some payday devs >:3

[vagrant cloud]

Yeah, look at the disaster PD3 is

Also honestly this is the most immersive coop game i've ever played

[rose nova]

thought that was cause of server issues not the game

[restive marsh]

its cause they were making their own engine and then switched to unreal 5

[sharp siren]

the reddit was pretty active

until the reddit shutdown

then it went to shit

because the mods went private afaik

then it died

[rose nova]

reddit went change change and then everythin went to a fuck

[sharp siren]

ty for coming to my GTFO history lesson

[rose nova]

thank u

[claps]

[restive marsh]

frick no gifs

lol

[rose nova]

:D

[vagrant cloud]

Nope, there are tons of problems with the game other than servers, one of my friends wrote a review for it and it was along the lines of "Imagine you're running through the woods, you trip, fall, break your legs, your phone's shattered, and you have a 50K hospital bill, that's what it feels like to play this game"

[rose nova]

if it was my country u wouldnt have to pay smh

[sharp siren]

pd3 its lit

[rose nova]

u would just die in the woods

[silk blade]

Maybe he should stop playing payday 3 while running in the woods ig

[rose nova]

but yeah i guess its like, two sides of fans

cause ive heard good things

[silk blade]

He prob can't see where he's going if he's holding up a laptop while he's running

[sharp siren]

The combat its so good

i coooommmm

cloakers a fucking awesome

[rose nova]

but i guess its like two sides the ones that think its ok and just were mad of the servers, and the ones that just go 'so anyways payday2'

but the servers r fixed now so

a

[vagrant cloud]

Is it any better than PD2 cause i loved that game

[silk blade]

I thought an issue was

You can't do single player

Like you have to queue for single player

[sharp siren]

if you campare them at launch

both of them

[silk blade]

And apparently can't do offline??

[sharp siren]

payday 2 suck mayor dick

[vagrant cloud]

This is what he wrote:

Campared to Payday 2:

• The UI changes are best compared to stepping on a lego.
• The gameplay is like reading Terms and Conditions.
• The matchmaking experience is like taking a walk in the woods, only for a tree to fall and pin your crushed legs underneath. Also, due to the impact, you dropped your cell phone inches out of reach from your outstretched hand.
• The skill selection/progression system is like spending 120,000 dollars and slaving away for 4-years on a collegiate education, only to be punched in the throat en route to your first interview by a raving lunatic who steals your clothes and leaves your corpse in a dark alley to be eaten by rats.

• The stealth gameplay is pretty good

[sharp siren]

ive played it in the playstation 3

it was funny

[sharp siren]

so does gtfo

but we dont cry about it

[vagrant cloud]

Isn't there a mod for that anyways ?

[rose nova]

i did once when i was on a rancho

[sharp siren]

its all about the community and the game

[sharp siren]

even if there was why would you

[rose nova]

why not

[sharp siren]

the game its shit for solo

[rose nova]

bot run

:D

[sharp siren]

for the average player a solo run its just a waste of time

[vagrant cloud]

I wouldn't just if people are complaiging about it :/

[rose nova]

D:

[vagrant cloud]

It's funny cause this game is genuinely the only ever game where my levels of enjoyment from watching gameplay and actually playing it are the exact same

Any other game i either love watching gameplay and hate playing it or vice versa

[rose nova]

i love watchin vis of this game, when i started they were scary, but now they r just super fun :]

[vagrant cloud]

same

plus it helps making you better

[rose nova]

ksmdkm or u ujst laugh at the bonkers strats they come up with :3

[vagrant cloud]

Truue

[rose nova]

i wanna play this game more frequently now that i fixed my internet issues

i just rnjoy everythin about it a ton

the animations the sound the gameplay it all just seems so nice n awesome

[stark tapir]

looking for 2 vietnamese, dm me for personal server

[humble oar]

can anyone tell me the top tier guns as of current patch? feel like the youtube ones are outdated

[junior latch]

I think the youngest youtube tierlist is from mid 2021

lol

[true pilot]

Hel revo and carbine and hel shotgun are S tier rn, for specials... burst cannon is still very good, veruta is also good, scatergun is still nice

and im out of ideas

im sure there are more good specials that i dont remember

[humble oar]

thanks appreciate it

[wicked solstice]

hel rifle

[humble oar]

what about heavy ar i always liked it

[wicked solstice]

But really anything works

Yeah

[rose nova]

pretty much every, special its good in its own way, some just are better for some missions

[junior latch]

there is currently no special that is weak

but specials are specialised so smth wont always work well

[humble oar]

i always dont know how to use hel revo

[true pilot]

you shoot

reload cancel

[humble oar]

just same as a regular revo? cuz i rarely get value out of the penetration

[junior latch]

heavy ar is definetly on the lower end tho as its basically only for small enemy wave clear which multiple other guns do better

[true pilot]

shoot more

[humble oar]

damn

[wicked solstice]

“Specials are specialized” - Eva 2023

[humble oar]

also hel rifle should be used for the overpen or is it good overall

[junior latch]

without pen its not that good but not bad

[little ridge]

with pencil?

[junior latch]

its pen enables it to have better efficiency and good burst wave clear

Its goated vs chargers

[true pilot]

yeah pretty much, you want to aim for heads but you can allow yourself for body shots, the penetration will be useful at times, but for hel revo learning to reload cancel it makes it very efficient

[humble oar]

alright thanks a lot

carbine was still said to be the best a long time ago and i thought they nerfed it or smth lol

[normal lake]

hel revo is just good in general even without reload canceling

[junior latch]

without reload cancel its a lot worse tbf

[normal lake]

carbine is still def top tier but if you want something pretty good but different hel revo and hel shotgun are both very good

[junior latch]

You half the downtime

i send my tierlists to them

[true pilot]

they nerfed it so little it doesnt matter

[junior latch]

thats basically the easiest way to show what we walk bout

[wicked solstice]

hel shotgun takes some skill/getting used to

[normal lake]

this def

[wicked solstice]

But once you get it, it’s nutty

[normal lake]

i still enjoy it and find it to be pretty damn good without reload canceling

[little ridge]

Wait

That's basically perfect reload cancel vs no reload cancel at all, right?

Cause I dont do perfect timing stuff and I still notice the difference by a decent margin

[wicked solstice]

Iirc the reload cancel is less than half of the normal reload time, and add a bit of time for the actual swap

Averages out to like 2x faster reload

[junior latch]

Yes, even with casual cancelling you safe a second easily

[wicked solstice]

It’s a nutty cancel

I wish you could reload cancel sawed off

[junior latch]

eh

[normal lake]

sawed off is already fast as fuck tbf

[junior latch]

the reload is quick at this point

[wicked solstice]

It is?

[junior latch]

you just jaded by your 1.2 sec reload sawed off dak

[wicked solstice]

true true

It’s actually 1.5

But yeah

[junior latch]

now
You said 1.2 before

[wicked solstice]

Yeah lmao

It was an accident

[junior latch]

Sawed off is quite good rn

[wicked solstice]

I gave it 1.2s reload, 40 dmg, and like 80 shots

Idk what I was smoking

[junior latch]

people just dont pick it because

1. it was ass for a long time
2. its a weird main as a low ammo shotgun
3. its not a common weapon type

[wicked solstice]

Changed that super fast

I like to pair it with the Veruta or HAR

[normal lake]

for me its just the low ammo part

[wicked solstice]

Because I like a full auto gun

[sharp siren]

saw off its good

[normal lake]

if it wasnt that id run it over hel shotgun since i find it way more fun

[junior latch]

it isnt rly low ammo tho

[normal lake]

but generally id rather have hel shotgun

[wicked solstice]

Now my sawed off has like 32 damage, 45-50 ammo, and 1.5s reload

[junior latch]

its as efficient as the special shotgun

Its at the generic 8-9 efficiency

[normal lake]

refering to the mag size of 3

[junior latch]

but compared to the other mains you can easily get the 7-8

at 4 it would be even more insane at this point

[wicked solstice]

Yeah what if I gave it 4 :3

[normal lake]

wouldnt change the mag size since then its no longer a triple barrel shotgun

but yeah its prob my only annoyance with an otherwise awesome gun

[silk blade]

What guns are the worst

[wicked solstice]

I mean just change the model to the front of Choke Mod

[silk blade]

Absolutely not good over any other

[normal lake]

i just prefer hel shotgun cus i can unload a full mag into a crowd

[wicked solstice]

Ar….

[silk blade]

We know auto sentry is S tier on worst guns list

[silk blade]

I cannot really disagree

Doomed weapon

[wicked solstice]

Vanilla AR is just not as good

[normal lake]

all the full auto mains competeing to be the best of the worst

[wicked solstice]

Sadly

[silk blade]

Bullpup isn't bad

[wicked solstice]

But it isn’t good

[silk blade]

Idk I find it to fare well

Machine and auto pistols are also decent if you need to kill lots of dudes that get close

[junior latch]

Worst:
Melee: spear
Tool: auto sentry
Mains: AR
Specials: heavy ar i guess?

[silk blade]

Sure others are better but like

They aren't truly horrible

[wicked solstice]

Exactly

[junior latch]

Bullpup at best is like 4th worst. At worst you can argue for worst still

[little ridge]

auto pistol kills? it just staggers

[wicked solstice]

No gun is BAD now, but there are clearly good choices

[normal lake]

i just dont take full auto mains, the pistols are a fucking meme, and the rest are still mid af

[wicked solstice]

I love full auto mains tbh

[little ridge]

Auto pistol's problem is that it requires you to use it as such that you maximize the stagger time on enemies without unloading it like a madman, and it implies someone else doing the actual killing

[wicked solstice]

BP/SMG/AR

mmm

And also Burst Rifle

[junior latch]

buff AR. Buff machine pp/auto pp and bullpup slightly

Buff HAR, revo and choke mod slightly

Buff spear

Buff all not burst sentries

[wicked solstice]

Sniper sentry should shoot dead bodies again

[junior latch]

no

[wicked solstice]

Shotgun sentry and Auto do

[junior latch]

afaik it only did in its fastest version

[wicked solstice]

Why doesn’t burst sentry do that btw?

[normal lake]

And completely remove auto sentry because that thing is beyond unsalvagable

[wicked solstice]

Merge with shotgun tbh

[junior latch]

There was a broken version inbetween the current and R7 sniper sentry that had high but not too high firerate

[silk blade]

It has good damage to ammo if you are consistently making use of pierce

[junior latch]

[wicked solstice]

or make it a burst stagger sentry

Which was my idea

[junior latch]

fire rate between bursts probably too big

[wicked solstice]

I can change that tho

Also once it ACTUALLY PENETRATES

it’ll be better

[junior latch]

give it 1000 bullets at least

[wicked solstice]

Yes

[junior latch]

but id much rather merge shotgun and auto sentry

more interesting

and you get rid of 2 issues

[wicked solstice]

Burst autoshotgun sentry

[little ridge]

True, but it'll give even less of an option

To be fair now it's the illusion of choice

[wicked solstice]

Fires out 10 round bursts of staggering damaging pellets

I still think shotgun sentry needs to have a slower firerate when biotagged

[little ridge]

why?

[wicked solstice]

Because it’s honestly more of a CC sentry in my experience

[little ridge]

just lower the firerate always and instead buff the ammo retaining thing

[wicked solstice]

And it also shoots the hell out of dead bodies

Wait

I forgot I can buff that

[little ridge]

Yeah, it shouldn't do that

[wicked solstice]

👀

[little ridge]

biotag or no biotag

[wicked solstice]

That’s why I wanted to make it burst

[little ridge]

The "I'm gonna shoot enemies that are already dead" thing should just be fixed, not turned into a mechanic imho

[sharp siren]

can we just remove symbiosis

[wicked solstice]

Because I’m pretty sure the burst property is what makes burst sentry not do that

[sharp siren]

and balance the sentries like before

[wicked solstice]

This tbh

[sharp siren]

have a good balance

[wicked solstice]

sleeper symbiosis

[sharp siren]

waaaayy more simple

[wicked solstice]

The sleepers attack you more when tagged

When mine symbiosis

[normal lake]

only symbiosis sentries need is the ability to see shadows when pinged

[wicked solstice]

Honestly I should totally merge shotgun and auto sentries in occlusion so that I can make a scatter sentry in the 4th sentry slot

[normal lake]

so i +1 the idea

[wicked solstice]

I just wish there was a way to make sentries ONLY target the body

Current targeting system is either only head or head then body once head is destroyed

Which is kinda hot garbage for auto/shotgun sentry

[sharp siren]

yeah its should be more like occlusion

[wicked solstice]

i mean I can’t do that either lmao

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[normal lake]

yeah esspecially for a sentry like hel auto sentry which is supposed to pierce

[wicked solstice]

“Supposed to”

[normal lake]

if it did pierce it would be quite annoying having it aim for head

[wicked solstice]

ohhhh that’s why my shotgun sentry doesn’t pen

Lol

[normal lake]

Hel auto sentry on its way to not pierce and to miss 50% of its shots on basically stationary targets

Balanced

[wicked solstice]

Can we give auto sentry the better bots targeting system

So that it doesn’t just nail everything but the sleepers

Oh yeah I wanted to make an LRF that if you shined it on an enemy for at least 1 second, it’d tag it

[normal lake]

make auto sentry backpack mounted and it fires at enemies in front of you when toggled on

[wicked solstice]

That’d be cool as fuck tbh

[normal lake]

would be a bit interesting

[wicked solstice]

Make it handheld

[normal lake]

big brain third gun slot

[wicked solstice]

Wait nvm that’s just autopistol

[normal lake]

it would be to good handheld since it wouldnt be missing the majority of its shots

[wicked solstice]

Eh, I mean autopistol isn’t good either

[normal lake]

valid

i like giving it to bots tho

atleast then when they shoot me it doesnt hurt that bad

[sharp siren]

L take

[wicked solstice]

I like it

[sharp siren]

you should mix autopistol and machinepistol

[wicked solstice]

But man it feels bleh

[normal lake]

Autopistol competes with other mains where as auto sentry competes with other tools

this isnt balanced of a comparison

[silk blade]

Auto sentry doesn't compete with other tools

It has bad aim

Also it uses a lot of ammo for doing no damage

Auto pistol is more accurate even in the hands of the worst player, does more damage too I think, and has more ammo

Also auto pistol has really good ammo to damage ratio if you make use of pierce well

[sharp siren]

its a niche

[normal lake]

precisely my point

auto sentry is fucking dogshit no matter how you look at it

and its even worse when you actually compare it to the other available tools it competes with for the same slot

auto pistol doesnt have competition to the degree of fuckin burst sentry or bio tracker which makes it completely worthless

its not throwing the game to choose auto pistol

[silk blade]

We should destroy auto

Would be more useful as a blunt weapon you melee with or throw at enemies

[analog flicker]

Make it so auto sentry can controlled

[winged nebula]

wow

what happen

its there new missions?

[analog flicker]

[lusty river]

Indeed new missions, but only in thy dreams (for now)

[wispy bluff]

Depends on your time lapse

[silk blade]

dual shelling pistols vs dual revolvers

make your cases

[true pilot]

dual revos for the sound

and even more recoil

[wicked solstice]

Someone made a mod for that

I think cheese was working on akimbo stuff

[glossy bloom]

hey guys, does it matter who takes the artifact? I mean, does it share between the group or no?

[wicked solstice]

Shares

[burnt flume]

When an artefact is picked up everyone in the lobby gets the progress

[wispy bluff]

Specify, because technically you can already do that (you just can't akimbo them).
Personally - i prefer pistols. You become a swiss knife of close-to-mid range combat.

[silk blade]

i meant dual as in main and special shellings

[wispy bluff]

Right. In that case i think pistols win. Minimal skill requirements, adaptable.
Revolver + Revolver basically makes you into a small enemy fighter, exclusively. You will have some troubles with giants, as you will have to just magdump both guns into them for a kill (and you're not even allowed to headshot, because Spec Revo doesn't even have that great of a precision multi, as it turns out).

[sharp siren]

nobody knows

the left booty cheek technicque

only true veterans know that

[glossy bloom]

thanks

[shut vapor]

@winged bison naw man, training is the only level you should be lfging for ;)

[winged bison]

🤣

[winged bison]

if only more people joined R7C3 banging level

sat here for an hour

for someone not to join

not even 1 person

[shut vapor]

welcome to the world of 7 available rundowns

in a smol community

[winged bison]

true but at least I did R7 when it came out I just really like C3

[shut vapor]

real

[winged bison]

gotta love that secondary which has (SPOILER): || Shadow Scout ||

[shut vapor]

i don't remember shit about r6 or r7 ngl. I haven't touched them in ages

[vagrant cloud]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[winged bison]

wdym nooooooooo

lol

[vagrant cloud]

those guys are horrible

unless you have thermal

[winged bison]

who needs thermals

[vagrant cloud]

me

i use the PDW

[rose nova]

who needs pdws

[winged bison]

i prefer not using thermals

[winged bison]

exactly

[proven herald]

русские есть? кто новичка возьмет?

[timber tinsel]

Enlisting combatants to raid my nearest Mcdonalds. They forgot my Deluxe!!

[rose nova]

D:

[shut vapor]

what is a deluxe

[silver knot]

109775243268342589

[balmy moat]

Pretty sure they just add lettuce and tomato to the burger

Don’t quote me on that I don’t order deluxes

[lusty river]

How long has the r5e1 bug been in this game 😭

[balmy moat]

Which bug?

[lusty river]

When you do a new mission after r5e1, you and your teammates have 100 infection and you can't regen to 20

[balmy moat]

…

I’ve never seen that tbh

[wraith marsh]

thats purely a visual bug

[modern coral]

Checkpoint makes it real.

[wraith marsh]

besides the weird

checkpoint relation

yea

[lusty river]

Might be visual bug but so strange 😭

[hasty prawn]

anyone here have finished r2d1

i wanna compare something

[rose nova]

whut happened whatcha wanna compares

[hasty prawn]

how many hours did it take for ya?

have you cried blood while doing it?

[rose nova]

umm, well first times around, it took me 2 hours for a failed run

when i did it i came back after completin r3, more experience and was faster

i mustve took... an hour and 15 or 30 mins

its a very slow level if u do it slowly, and... yeah i i did cry blood

probs one of the levels that has taken me more time to complete i was really not up for it when i tried it

i only had r1 and up to it in r2

[hasty prawn]

it just took me 3 hours on a "successfull" run with the boys

oh my

i'm never doing that mission EVER again

[undone garden]

Oh we sure will be doing it in the future 🙂

OASJDASOIDOIASDJIOASOIJDAJSOID

[hasty prawn]

NO WE AIT

AINT*

[rose nova]

lol yeah i- usually i recommend that if u get stuck u jump to the next rundown to practice and get more experience and comeback to it more prepared :3

also yes ur probs gettin drag, someday to it again

ive said that of like 5 missions

i went back KMSKDM

[hasty prawn]

nah i hate myself

i just thug it out and do it again

[undone garden]

https://tenor.com/view/fog-supernatural-bye-leave-gif-10761056

[hasty prawn]

run the gauntlet

[rose nova]

:D

gtfo gif attempts

[undone garden]

EMBED FAIL

FUCK

[hasty prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/jesus-ballin-mars-bars-gif-19910027

[rose nova]

:3

[undone garden]

F

[hasty prawn]

OH

WE CAN'T

[rose nova]

no image perms

[undone garden]

NOOOOO

AISODOOAISJIDOIASIJDOIAS

[rose nova]

:]

[undone garden]

EPIC EMBED FAIL

[rose nova]

double trouble embed

[hasty prawn]

LTG

LTG FOR EVER

[neon fulcrum]

You will do R2D1 again

[hasty prawn]

why

[undone garden]

**NOW **

[hasty prawn]

AHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

[undone garden]

XDDDDDDD

[hasty prawn]

but man
r2d1 was an experience

sincerely

[neon fulcrum]

R2D2 is easy you should play it

[hasty prawn]

we did d2

[undone garden]

I don't trust this statement

[hasty prawn]

i think

[undone garden]

Not even a biit

KAODKAODKASDAKSOD

[rose nova]

kmdskm well come people have way more trouble on like sneak fog levels than shooty shoot evels so id believe u did d2 before d1

[undone garden]

Oh D2 is pow pow bang, nice >;3c

Are all D tiers this silly ? I loved it XD

[rose nova]

ksmdkm yeah some r more shooty some are harder...

d1 its very tiring and long but with enough time its not, as hard

its just VERYYYY long

[undone garden]

And I supose that E tiers ... are way worse ... rigth ? 😅

[hasty prawn]

i'm putting the game on a shelf and giving myself some time to cleanse my soul and repent for my sins
(i'm gonna crunch this game tomorrow)

[rose nova]

:D

[rose nova]

7 hours of r2c2 to shoot everything shootable and rinse all the sneaks u had to do

[torpid rose]

Don't touch the statues

[rose nova]

wuh

[torpid rose]

difficult enemy

[gaunt lichen]

E tier missions people could probably write a thesis on it

[neon fulcrum]

Looking back, you'll find it wasn't as hard as you thought it was

[hasty prawn]

it is not phyisically possible to be 7 hours on a single mission

[balmy moat]

Eh.
R2E1 has been completed under 30 minutes
R4E1 Main + Secondary is sub 50
R5E1 is also sub 30
R7E1 is also sub 30

[gaunt lichen]

Oh they don't know

[undone garden]

I don't know how to feel about this XDDDDD

[trim heath]

the E1's arent necessarily long just very hard

[hasty prawn]

[balmy moat]

But that’s not really a comparison

[gaunt lichen]

My point was just how creative players get with E missions

[trim heath]

you have to have the right loadout and know what you are doing

[undone garden]

Oh they are "open ended" then ? :0

[balmy moat]

Style is found more in R7D2

[gaunt lichen]

Tru

[hasty prawn]

free thinker method

[balmy moat]

@wraith marsh

Style guide 😩

[undone garden]

This makes me even more exited to play this game holy shit, and I only have around 100h

HELP APDJOAISJDOASDA

[modern coral]

A little over an hour usually.

If you know where to go and can get through things efficiently, it's not crazy long, but it is a longer level.

[balmy moat]

Just wait until R5D1

Allow me to introduce myself

[rose nova]

:D pain

yay

[modern coral]

I've thought about getting at least X number of clears on all levels, but every time I look at the objectives that need the most progress I have to contend with my [1,1,-,-] R5D1.

[balmy moat]

You cannot pub that level

I can attest to it

[modern coral]

It's like R4C3.

It is literally not possible to pub.

[trim heath]

I dont understand why

but its not even the main that gets us

its the damn secondary

[trim heath]

I mean, I did

[balmy moat]

Looking at my past livestream for when R5 dropped I should’ve never pubbed it

I spent close to probably 8 hours on that level alone

Should’ve just waited for Jish

[modern coral]

I think I remember glancing at that...

[wraith marsh]

we will never get around to making it

[modern coral]

Your pubs were not promising, to say the least.

[balmy moat]

Even then I had a half pub lobby Jish and I still had to carry

And we barely made it

Had a real unfortunate portion that we clutched hard

[modern coral]

So I'm walled at 1 clears by R5D1 and at 4 clears by R4C3...

What's the runner-up from there?

[balmy moat]

What was R4C3 again?

[mystic moss]

charger hell

[modern coral]

^

[balmy moat]

Chargers?

That just sounds like D2 tho

[modern coral]

Charger error, fog (that you can get rid of), very tight ammo.

[balmy moat]

Charger error

[rose nova]

buddies

[gaunt lichen]

Fog, 2 gens, a funny door

[balmy moat]

Fuck I don’t remember

[modern coral]

R4C3 is really not that bad with competent players.

But it is unpubbable.

People are dying to the single tank on the blood door.

[crimson oriole]

you guys must get bad pubs

[gaunt lichen]

Now the real question is what do you say to the pub player who brought a sniper into R4C3

[balmy moat]

Oh

I remember R4C3

I actually kinda like that mission

It was just the cell bug shit that happened

Made it dumb

[modern coral]

R5B1 might actually gate me, too. PE is only at 2.

[neon fulcrum]

I didn't understand why R4C3 was difficult but then again I went back to it after doing R5 before finishing R4...

[modern coral]

Most hardstuck levels depend a bit on what the pub scene is like at any given moment.

Hardstuck players will eventually give up, and more experienced players will gradually gain interest in revisiting some of that content.

[mystic moss]

i feel like that only applies to e-tier levels
no one wants to replay r5d1 or r4c3

[modern coral]

I guess.

In that case, there is a low number of experienced players participating in that content, and if things go on long enough for hardstuck players to filter out then those will eventually be the only people on those levels.

[neon fulcrum]

I think I have 3x R5D1 right now

[modern coral]

Sec?

[neon fulcrum]

yes of course

[modern coral]

How does he do it.

[neon fulcrum]

1st and 3rd time bio scan speed

[balmy moat]

I’m willing to do R7D1 over R5D1

[neon fulcrum]

made the scans all a joke

[balmy moat]

And I’ve already lost all sanity on R7D1

[neon fulcrum]

2nd run was me kiting in reactor room until the giant shadow showed up to kill me while other 3 sit at extract

[mystic moss]

pro

[neon fulcrum]

They should include a hidden # of failed attempts

I'm actually curious

[modern coral]

Is this the feeling you get when you want to complete the Warden's objective and GTFO?