gtfo-chat

[sour crystal]

I'm not one for living on the edge

[visual lily]

Hey

[normal lake]

give it 100 or so hours of play time

[trim heath]

I usually want 40% for pretty much any alarm

[visual lily]

Whats the name of the user of that deaf guy

[trim heath]

surges I will use all the med

[visual lily]

That solos missions

[normal lake]

absolutely

[blissful dome]

Surges fun

[normal lake]

for surges its fucking all or nothing

[sour crystal]

Ok but like

[blissful dome]

Imagine mother surge

Real

[normal lake]

surges feel like what alarms felt like when i first started

[sour crystal]

What's the mod and how do I get

[trim heath]

I hate when people give me hp when dealing with error wave too

like

[normal lake]

i use r2modman its Zombified_Initiative

[trim heath]

I'm just gonna be at 20% anyway

[blissful dome]

Lmao

[sour crystal]

Thx

[normal lake]

just a warning if you do multiplayer i believe all players need the mod

[sharp owl]

you get used to it

[sour crystal]

Shouldn't be a problem

[normal lake]

This

[trim heath]

like

[sour crystal]

I imagine you're lighting a cigarette while saying this

[trim heath]

I will HOLD a med if I am dealing with error wave

[normal lake]

usually i can handle waves of 3-4 strikers in a error endlessly if im on 20% using melee

[trim heath]

but I wont use it

[normal lake]

no sense in wasting ammo or health

[trim heath]

yea

[blissful dome]

Charger giant error on 20

[sharp owl]

a cigar 👴

[trim heath]

100% just use gun for that

[blissful dome]

Real

[trim heath]

and I would almost argue it doesnt really matter what your hp is

[normal lake]

lets be real if your gonna be in melee range of a woke giant charger your dead regardless of your hp

[trim heath]

you die super fast anyway

[normal lake]

not to mention melee range for chargers is the whole fucking map if your not host

[blissful dome]

Ok fair

[sour crystal]

How do you dodge the shooty projectiles

[trim heath]

I'll use gun for any error that isnt smalls

[blissful dome]

Snatcher error on 20

[normal lake]

strafe left or right of the projectiles

faster is better

[sour crystal]

Fake

They literally curve

[blissful dome]

Even jumping works sometimes

[normal lake]

most of the time you will get hit if your crouched

[normal lake]

like dont just hid A or D

literally look left or right and sprint in that direction for a fraction of a second

[sour crystal]

How far must I move

-_-

[normal lake]

its not far its just about getting out of its way quickly

[blissful dome]

You can literally a d dodge too

[normal lake]

yeah but it takes some better timing

[blissful dome]

Fair

[normal lake]

literally happens to me all the time

forget im crouched

strafe to dodge while holding a firing line

get hit because im crouched

[blissful dome]

Real

[sour crystal]

My father is texting and driving >_<

[normal lake]

not good but also not really a gtfo chat kinda topic

[blissful dome]

Real

Go to general

[sour crystal]

Lol

[blissful dome]

Ez

[sour crystal]

Not rly a topic just a statement

Speaking of gtfo

I should invite my friend here

Information is very useful

[normal lake]

most can be found on the wiki

or learned from just playing the game

[sour crystal]

Nah

How am I supposed to know

Hit back of head

Do more damage

[normal lake]

wiki explains it

[sour crystal]

Without a video

[normal lake]

idk if its explained in game

even better tho, if you have hammer and hit back of head on striker with like a quarter-half charge it still kills

occi tapping is quite goofy

[sour crystal]

And also it would've taken me so long to release how to work the terminal

If I didn't watch videos

[blissful dome]

Spear head tap is funner

[sour crystal]

I've started using knife now

It seems like the better tool for the job

[normal lake]

whats the point if you cant sprint while doing it tho

[normal lake]

its terrible for giants

but for strikers and shooters it is undoubtedly the best

[sour crystal]

Tbf if I see a giant I'm not gonna melee it prob

[normal lake]

the game will force you eventually

better to learn while the stakes are low

[sour crystal]

I've done it

You just do a coordinated attack

[blissful dome]

You... Can*

[normal lake]

if you call that sprinting

mf speed walkin

[sour crystal]

I also would not figure out that your heartbeat is like a stamina thingy

They really need a better tutorial

Or like a second one that's more advanced

[normal lake]

thats something you wouldnt realize until your bar turns yellow and your character becomes so slow that you cannot, not notice

then you see the bpm cus it draws your eyes

atleast thats how i learned

[sour crystal]

Ehhh I might not put two and two together

[blissful dome]

Walking twice at the same time

[sour crystal]

Idk if I would or not

[normal lake]

gtfo is genuinely the hardest fucking game for me to play at this point because all the levels i have left are basically hard locked to 3 or 4 players and i can only ever get a duo together

bots are to damn inconsistent for duoing some of these levels

[sour crystal]

Lfg channel until you find someone good enough?

[wraith marsh]

Download better bots and get carried

[normal lake]

i havent used lfg since r6 original released

not gonna start now

[sour crystal]

Rainbow six siege

[sharp owl]

I wanna try a hard as fuck level

[sour crystal]

Stubborn

[sharp owl]

Im newb

[normal lake]

r7c3 is a good one

[rose nova]

lol

[sour crystal]

Gl with that

[sharp owl]

Oof

Wait a sec can i just choose any level or do i have to unlock the previous ones?

[merry sluice]

Any level

But you gotta beat the A1's ,B1 so on

[sharp owl]

Oh ok cool

[normal lake]

have to unlock the levels to host them but if you join off someone elses you can play any level

[merry sluice]

^

[normal lake]

dont like better bots it makes them to good

literally only changes bots need is not taking packs, and not being assholes and friendly firing / not standing in a team scan like bozos

i dont need them to be gods who never miss heads

[merry sluice]

@normal lake With 0.0.7 they are like that

He changed the boolean value to not be 100% accuracy

[normal lake]

its still to much, they shoot fine imo

[merry sluice]

They still are strong as fuck but not aimbots at least

[normal lake]

would also be nice if they didnt shoot tanks or moms at all

rather than wasting ammo

but for levels like r7e1 playing with bots might aswell just not be doable

bots on there way to not stand in the team scan the whole game but then choosing to stand in it when its completely over run

[sour crystal]

I don't get it

Why shouldn't they stand in the scan

[merry sluice]

They bug sometimes

[normal lake]

ive run into the bug quite a lot and its prob the most frustrating bug in the entire game that doesnt just softlock a run

[sour crystal]

What IS the bug

[normal lake]

they just sometimes choose to not sit in a scan for no reason

[merry sluice]

They dont stand in scans , that's the bug. The AI freaks out and they wont enter the scan.

[normal lake]

with team scans in a alarm its a death sentence

[sour crystal]

Goober behavior

It's probably

Daudas or whatever

[merry sluice]

It often occurs if there is a team scan with an error already going. Or infectious fog covering the team scan ive notived.

[sour crystal]

He's the type to not stand in the scan

Dauda not daudas

I was close

[normal lake]

ive had the bug occur on doors without any alarm or danger just regular team scans to open a security door

r2d2 it happened almost every single time we got to the first team scan before the reactor

[merry sluice]

Damn for real ive never had it happen on a base alram . Only error alarms

[normal lake]

sometimes one bot sometimes two

[merry sluice]

Then whatever R5 or R7 I forget level with the 3 cells and the fog that comes back. The 1st scan with the rising fog they never scan in

[normal lake]

r6d1 we where doing without checkpoints up until the class 6 right before the end and we failed twice to the bug then just removed the bots and did the class 6 as a duo without bots

literally easier without the bots sometimes

Scratch that i think we where a trio on that level

[merry sluice]

That class 6 is super easy though. Its only hard if you reactor skip for R6D1

[true pilot]

i was about to say - wtf, but then i realised you mean the intended way and not fog skip as bots decimate fog skip

[normal lake]

yeah as long as your not host getting raped by strikers while tryna kick the bot mid alarm

[merry sluice]

LOLOL True

[sour crystal]

What is an error >_<

[normal lake]

its an extended alarm that either never turns off or takes a long ass time to turn off

usually the waves are pretty small though

[merry sluice]

The 1st one you will see is in R2C2

[normal lake]

honestly need more levels like r6d1 where its possible to beat a level early but really fucking hard compared to the normal way

[sour crystal]

[merry sluice]

R5E1 cell skip bout the only other 1

And people trying Desert Skip for R7E1 atm

[normal lake]

extraction alarms are basically errors but instead of actually doing something your just fuckin gunning for the exit

[merry sluice]

That desert skip is fuckin insane

[true pilot]

we pray for their souls to one day find peace

[normal lake]

most errors are honestly pretty reasonably easy to manage esspecially if you have played levels in order but a few are fuckin wild

[merry sluice]

Ya only a few are annoying really

[sour crystal]

Good to know

[timid minnow]

just played a couple matches!

teammate killed 2 of us at the extract but was fun anyways!

last match we all died right before we got to the extract xD

[rose nova]

:D
well teamkills dont do anythin u still get completion

[normal lake]

r3c1 is still in my opinion one of the single worst balanced errors in the game

[timid minnow]

that'

that's good to know

[true pilot]

unless your team is uncordinated then you get to see it all fall alart very quickly

[true pilot]

fuck R3C1

not just the error

the whole level

[wispy bluff]

C1 had an error?

[normal lake]

that whole level is boring as shit then it throws the error alarm at you and ramps the level difficulty up exponentially higher

[merry sluice]

R3C1 is not that bad.

[wispy bluff]

Oh wait. Different rundown.

Never mind.

[true pilot]

yeah

i dislike it a lot

Might be the worst R3 level for me

[normal lake]

imo it is the worst r3 level

[merry sluice]

Wow the C1 hate wtf. 😢

[true pilot]

Its a bad level

like you dont so shit

then you die to a dumb error

And repeat

[normal lake]

imo its prob one of the worst levels in the game

its 30 minutes of a tier difficulty followed by a 5 minute section of d tier difficulty

[blissful dome]

You volunteering?

[wispy bluff]

Can someone remind me R3C1 objective

[true pilot]

find hsu i think it was

[merry sluice]

The error is not hard though you just bring hel shotgun + hel gun/rifle/high cal pistol.

[normal lake]

grab an hsu

[rose nova]

bots love me sadly they wont shoot me

[blissful dome]

Rip

[normal lake]

its the fact that the error is so unbalanced with the rest of the level that makes it suck

[blissful dome]

Just gib them scattr

[normal lake]

that and its complete rng

[wispy bluff]

That tells me nothing. Theres like 20 of those.

[normal lake]

one zone is 10x harder than the other

[merry sluice]

Ya i guess but IMO its not that hard. Even when I was new we beat it on our 2nd try.

[wispy bluff]

You're making me hyped to attempt replaying that.

[normal lake]

wouldnt get your hopes up

[true pilot]

you go through a bunch of easy zones then reach a door with an error that spawns chargers every once in a while and you gotta find an hsu in a very annoying zone them get out

[normal lake]

you will fall asleep getting to the error

[true pilot]

and get out

[wispy bluff]

Is the HSU zone in question full of giants?

[normal lake]

the error if the level was reasonably balanced wouldnt be that bad altho i do dislike the rng of it

[true pilot]

full of chargers

[merry sluice]

No Chargers + A scout usually

[true pilot]

wot

[normal lake]

bunch of chargers, a scout, all during a charger error

[wispy bluff]

Nope, doesn't ring a bell.

[true pilot]

there was a scoot too? I frogot about it i guess

[merry sluice]

THe scout spawn is RNG. Ive had it spawn outside the HSU room @true pilot

Even on zone 20

[true pilot]

oh i see

[normal lake]

its been awhile i just remember hating the level because literally sleep walking through the first few zones

first few zones literally felt like an A tier level

[true pilot]

funnily enough C1 was my last R3 level, i did D1 in lfg before it

[merry sluice]

D1 is one my more favorite speed levels.

[blissful dome]

Haven't done c1 did everything else lmao

[true pilot]

D1 is a great level

[normal lake]

D1 is a great level

[blissful dome]

Yes

[normal lake]

absolute banger level

[true pilot]

The error section is well made

the charger funky zones are good enough

Pmom is pretty nice

and the final bdoor is cool

[merry sluice]

Ya

All b doors need to be that loaded IMO lol . Love how fat that one is

[little ridge]

Is it?

[true pilot]

i like it

[normal lake]

dude me and my friends where dry as fuck on resources before that blood door and we had no clue

[little ridge]

It feels underwhelming after pmom tbh

[true pilot]

…

[normal lake]

i insisted that we should get some resources and tbh if we didnt we would have died

[merry sluice]

P mom is underwhelming in general

[true pilot]

did it get nerfed or smth

[merry sluice]

P mom and Mom are the easiest enemies in the game

[little ridge]

Not saying it ain't fun but I'd put it before pmom

[true pilot]

i remember the bdoor being very cool

[ivory radish]

can i command bots to take an item? like big flashlight?

[true pilot]

nope

just objective items

like power cells

[normal lake]

wasnt burst cannon op af when alt r3 released

[true pilot]

yes

a lot

ahh the good old days

[merry sluice]

Its OP AF now after the buff

[true pilot]

I recently went back to bc

i love it

[normal lake]

i ran that for the level and pmom literally was underwhelming because it fucking was evaporated

[true pilot]

it might not be able to kill 5 strikers in one burst

[normal lake]

did that level blind and no regrets

[true pilot]

but i still love it

[normal lake]

such a fun level

[true pilot]

i gotta do R3D1 with a bunch of my friends who dont know about it

[merry sluice]

My favorite level blind so far was R7D2

[normal lake]

r6c3pe is still my favorite error in the game

[true pilot]

R6C3 overall is a great level

[normal lake]

r7d2 was also very fun

[blissful dome]

Oh yes my first d1 run i did random load outs with lfg lmao

[merry sluice]

Ah true R6C3 does slap.

[blissful dome]

I got hel shotty combat shotty

[merry sluice]

R6D4 is fun. D3 is decent too love the tank respawn room. Its fun to pull for shit n giggles

[normal lake]

r6c3 first completion for me was blind pe no checkpoints, we literally took over 50 minutes to finish the level

[blissful dome]

How hard is r7c3

Compared to other levels

Overload ofc

[normal lake]

depends can you melee well?

[merry sluice]

Annoying as fuck you get no ammo for the start @blissful dome

[blissful dome]

Well if you can't you die so

[blissful dome]

Eh

[true pilot]

R6D3/D4 might be my fav levels i did blind

[blissful dome]

It's not that bad

[merry sluice]

I hate R7C3 personally I think its a zzzzzzzzzz level

[blissful dome]

Wait also did I play with you yesterday?

[true pilot]

Is R7C3 the only level you get no ammo to start with?

[blissful dome]

Uhm

afaik

[little ridge]

so far yes IIRC

[blissful dome]

I think

[little ridge]

SOME levels give you little ammo like r5c3

which gives more tool than ammo

[normal lake]

if you manage cfoam well its pretty easy to get through secondary and main but the overload can be pretty rough with the wrong equipment

[blissful dome]

Fun level

[blissful dome]

Well over has ammo so

[ivory radish]

do bots collect ammo/medikits/tool charge and use em?

[blissful dome]

Yes

[wispy bluff]

Yes.

[rose nova]

yeah, they use em when whatev they are refilling doesnt overfill

[blissful dome]

Most of the time

[rose nova]

like a sentry under 80%, health under 80%...

[normal lake]

i still think r7c2 overload is the hardest side objective in r7

[wispy bluff]

They will pick them up if you walk away like 5 meters.

[rose nova]

when they do its cause, two bots ganged up on u at the same time usually lol

[ivory radish]

@wispy bluffthats so awesome. im playing with the 3 bots and it feels way more easy than when i played with real people

[blissful dome]

Yea

[normal lake]

still havent done r7c2 overload but ig its been a long time since i attempted it

[merry sluice]

@ivory radish They will fall off very hard on the later levels. But they definitely are viable for a lot of the starting levels.

[blissful dome]

Tf clowns you play withw

[wispy bluff]

New players probably

Or veterans with no respect for other people's experience.

[merry sluice]

^ Could be both sadly

[normal lake]

the worst kinda players honestly

[ivory radish]

these bots stick together and dont run around like a chicken everywhere, they even use meele when i do!

[sharp owl]

Have fun

[blissful dome]

:D

[normal lake]

they fall off a cliff in harder levels

[true pilot]

important thing to note if you havent already - bots cant wake up enemies

even if they shoot

[normal lake]

gets to the point where having a brain is part of actually finishing a level

[true pilot]

walk into them

[wispy bluff]

Running around like chickens is the feature of actual players.

They explore by themselves, they kill by themselves, they loot by themselves...

Cuts down scavenging routine time by at least half

[blissful dome]

Well if they don't know what they're doing

It increases time

[ivory radish]

I pinged an key but its realy far away and the ping only stays a second...is there a way to mark its location?

[blissful dome]

No

[merry sluice]

Nah sadly.

[blissful dome]

Wait thug did I play with you yesterday

[merry sluice]

Just read the terminal see what Zone it pinged and remember the General area. Ya we did

[blissful dome]

I seem to remember a drug addled run

[sharp owl]

The terminal also tells you what room it is in
Use doors to navigate to the right room

[ivory radish]

@sharp owlyep, found it by now, its kinda cool with the terminal

[sharp owl]

Rooms are labeled in an alphabetical order
So room D can be found through room C

[sour crystal]

Guys

[merry sluice]

@ivory radish There are a lot of Terminal shortcuts.

[blissful dome]

If you have two people the ping command has a continuous modifier

[sour crystal]

What do glowsticks do

[sour crystal]

IT DOES?

[sharp owl]

Exactly what the name suggests

[blissful dome]

Glow

[sharp owl]

Glows

[blissful dome]

Real

[sour crystal]

So its useless

[sharp owl]

It's useful in dark areas

[sour crystal]

Useless

[sharp owl]

And there will be some really dark dark areas

[sour crystal]

I've had pitch black encounters

Just be careful

[sharp owl]

Doesn't alert sleepers so free scouting

[wispy bluff]

Glowsticks are agents of Satan

[sour crystal]

Usually you're able to hear the guys anyways

[blissful dome]

Also kaiser rep?

[wispy bluff]

They occupy every locker when you need literally anything else.
Then they refuse to show up the one time you actually need them.

[merry sluice]

You drink the glow sticks @sour crystal That's their only use

[blissful dome]

Wish you could

[sour crystal]

Also are the lock melters just for stealthily opening doors

[blissful dome]

Wish you could shoot yourself in game

[trim heath]

or removing locks on containers

[wispy bluff]

And to skip hacking mini game

[blissful dome]

Doors lockers whatever

[wispy bluff]

You'll get tired of it eventually

[ivory radish]

umm, do sentrys do friendly fire?

[trim heath]

yes

[blissful dome]

Yes

[trim heath]

do not stand in front of an automated gun

[blissful dome]

Everything besides melees ffs

[ivory radish]

lol...just died in like 2 seconds cos i ran infront a shotgun sentry

[trim heath]

or next to mines

[sour crystal]

I tried to use it on the hack locks it not work :?

[blissful dome]

Sniper sentry

[sour crystal]

Maybe I was just stupid or smthn

[wispy bluff]

It should.

Pull out the lock melter, approach lock, hold E while looking at it.

Lock... Melted.

[blissful dome]

It's more of burned but

[ivory radish]

do locks get harder than the ones in R1A1? the minigame

[blissful dome]

No

Well

Unless you want them to

[wispy bluff]

No, hacking mini game is always the same.

[sour crystal]

It's only actual use it for the locks you gotta break but don't wanna alert

[blissful dome]

Oh yea artek

[sour crystal]

what do the -hacking debuffs do

[wispy bluff]

Unless you bring boosters that modify it.

[blissful dome]

103 hacking for 22 melee

Best booster

[trim heath]

melee penalty is an insta throwaway

[wispy bluff]

Plus minus respectively?

[blissful dome]

Yes

Best booster

Trust

[wispy bluff]

They make blue bits smaller.

[sour crystal]

I see

[blissful dome]

Don't need lock melter

[sour crystal]

That's what I would thunk

[trim heath]

having 3 blue bits on the first part of the hacking minigame is pain

[wispy bluff]

Final phase becomes literally a single bar.

[blissful dome]

No like

Minus 22 melee

[sour crystal]

Thats rough

[blissful dome]

Plus 103 hacking

:D

[merry sluice]

You can get enough -hacking that the hacking becomes 2/1/1 for the bars

[blissful dome]

I do like pain

[merry sluice]

Makes it super fun to hack

[ivory radish]

is 1 player +2 bots viable for all rundowns?

[blissful dome]

Well

[trim heath]

uhh...no

[sour crystal]

Full bar is blue

Lmao

[blissful dome]

Possible yes

[trim heath]

realistic? no

[blissful dome]

Full bar is blue

[sour crystal]

It's possible

[blissful dome]

Full charge isn't even half health

[sour crystal]

It prob would be hell on harder levels

Idk tho

[trim heath]

trying to do R7E1 with bots sounds impossible tbh

[blissful dome]

CX with bots is hell

They just won't do the obj

Gl getting them into the termi scan

They also don't die sometimes

And just continue running around

Mb just had a stroke at the end of that

[wispy bluff]

Which CX

[merry sluice]

R6 I assume

[blissful dome]

What other cx

[sharp siren]

2+2 you can beat everything

Except r7e1

[sour crystal]

Kiriko pfp

[sharp siren]

And i mean without abusing disconnect and reconnect cheese

Its corn

Why its the p word banned

[wispy bluff]

Which one of the many

[sour crystal]

I thought it was

[sharp siren]

Ok ill say "adult entretainment" from.now on

[timid minnow]

can you double dip with same gun?

[sharp siren]

Ty discord

[timid minnow]

haven't tried

[wispy bluff]

Do what now?

[sharp siren]

Double dip?

[sour crystal]

What?

[timid minnow]

like are any ammo pools shared?

[sharp siren]

No

[wispy bluff]

Uhhhh

I have no idea what you're asking

[sour crystal]

Ammo bags restore main and special ammo

[sharp siren]

17% primary and 30% ammopacks on ammopack use

[wispy bluff]

Like you want main and special ammos to be connected?

[sharp siren]

No combining nor anything

[timid minnow]

gotcha

thanks

[sour crystal]

Specifically 17??

It's not 20?

[wispy bluff]

You might as well round it up, who cares

3% of main, bhah

[timid minnow]

are there any damage numbers anywhere for like

[wispy bluff]

Wiki

[thick temple]

the wiki

[timid minnow]

spreadsheet for guns

[wispy bluff]

Or we can tell you

[timid minnow]

ah ok thank

[thick temple]

and this https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Br_2A3n3YDO1v0Kld27KCLvwRYKJqjliyhntoT2NTp4

[wispy bluff]

And there are spreadsheets, yes. Somewhere. I don't use one.

[sharp siren]

Tru007 the hero

[thick temple]

i'm sure there are more

[sharp siren]

Actually making the wiki useful and not a missinformation cesspool

[wispy bluff]

I checked out vanilla revo stats recently and was surprised to find 0.74 prec

I thought it was a high prec gun?

No wonder people forbid shooting giants' heads with it

[sour crystal]

What's that

[thick temple]

there is hardly any gun that shooting a giant's head with it is actually remotely worth it

[wispy bluff]

Weakpoint multiplier

[sour crystal]

0.75x multiplier..?

[wispy bluff]

yes

[thick temple]

yeah, on headshots

[sour crystal]

That makes 0 sense

Never shoot heads in that case

[wispy bluff]

Enemy heads have their own multiplier in return

[thick temple]

most guns have <1 precision multi

[wispy bluff]

The lowest are giants with x1.5 head weakness

So its x1.5 and then x0.74

Its how devs balance "brute force guns" vs "sharpshooter guns"

[thick temple]

yeah they still do more in the end, it's just not as much more as it would be otherwise, which as artek said, is a balance mechanism

[wispy bluff]

High Cal Pistol is the same. Your 30 dmg turns 33 on a headshot.

[sour crystal]

So 0.75x1.5xdmg?

[thick temple]

yes

[wispy bluff]

Its like... You do deal bonus damage, but +3 dmg vs 120 HP? Might as well skip being the cool guy and just keep putting holes into stomach

[sour crystal]

That's

Special

[wispy bluff]

Wanna know somethign funny

its not even 0.75

[thick temple]

it is a balancing mechanism
and it makes sense

[sour crystal]

Ik

I rounded

[wispy bluff]

it is precisely 0.7413x

This game got a wicked sense of humour when it comes to numbers.

[sour crystal]

It's acoustic

[wispy bluff]

I very much agree

But it is what it is...

Just round simplify it to rules of thumbs.
x0.7 = no head.
x0.8 = maybe head?
x0.9 - x1.0 = nice head.
Any above that = MORE HEAD

[sour crystal]

So what it doesn't matter if I shoot heads with revolver

?

[thick temple]

giants heads

normal strikers have x3 head
so you can oneshot to the head

[sour crystal]

2.22x dmg

So it does matter just not on big man

[merry sluice]

You cant 1 shot head with out dmg Jarhead.

[thick temple]

??? revo???

[wispy bluff]

You still should, if you can help it. EXCEPT for giant strikers.

[merry sluice]

Nope

[thick temple]

wtf are you talking about

[wispy bluff]

Small biters have an x3 head weakness.
Shooters have x5.

Its only giants that are the weirdos with their x1.5.

[thick temple]

dmg booster??
cause revo definitely can???

HEL revo sure it can't, but special can

[merry sluice]

Hel revo I though tyou menat

[sour crystal]

Sawed off & revolver 🗣️

[merry sluice]

No one uses the normal revo lol

[grim bloom]

Hello i just buy the game i stuck at the Trainnig drop more then 30 minute what can i do?

[thick temple]

if they meant hel revo that's defo on me
but i never saw hel lol

[sour crystal]

Me.

[wispy bluff]

Close game, restart, try again. Its a bug.

[grim bloom]

Ahhhhhh T_T

[wispy bluff]

Is your PC strong enough to run this game? have you reduced graphics? Just making sure.

[grim bloom]

GTX 1060 is it enough?

[ivory radish]

do sniper turrets focus on big badys first?

[wispy bluff]

Ah, fellow brother

[wispy bluff]

To play on like mediums to lows. Prefferably lows, and half textures.

[wispy bluff]

Much unfortunately they do not.

They shoot whatever comes into their reticle first.

[ivory radish]

aww ok, thanks

[wispy bluff]

48 damage well used

But hey, if you can kill all the small enemies first....

[grim bloom]

OK i try set lowwer Thank you

[sour crystal]

What is default graphics

[ivory radish]

turrets have like 45 degree tracking to left and right?

[wispy bluff]

I honestly have no idea

I just pray their little holographical projectors are accurate

[sour crystal]

😱

[wispy bluff]

But 45 degrees sounds accurate to me

wonder if wiki knows something...

[trim heath]

turrets also prioritize tagged enemies, this means absolutely nothing outside of R7E1

[sour crystal]

I saw one doing like a full 180

[trim heath]

even then because people cheese that segment you dont actually have to do anything there

[wispy bluff]

Wiki does not appear to know something

[grim bloom]

i already set all low i got around 100+ fps still stuck at dropping

already restart the game

do i need reinstall?

[wispy bluff]

Hmmmm

Just in case post a topic in #1049599987878723635 , i have no idea how to fix this bug usually.

[little ridge]

for 1080p medium is fine if you want 60fps

Of course some levels might go below that

r7d1 especially

[grim bloom]

i think it fine but my computer go real heat

its time for me to get a new pc and water cooler system

[steep elm]

bots are absolutely useless and you can't say otherwise

consumes resources then gets downed within three

[modern coral]

They can carry you through some levels just fine, and they're much better than true solo on almost everything else.

[timid minnow]

is there a way to display fps without other UI's

[gaunt lichen]

Think theres a youtube channel where someone beats every E mission with just bots. Although I have no doubt its fairly time consuming.

[modern coral]

Should be in display iirc, and there's a Steam setting for it.

[timid minnow]

Cool thanks

[sharp siren]

Gotta play around theyre strenghts

Theyre serve more for utility than nothinf

[silk blade]

Unable to wake people up, can hold objectives, very solid aim, they can cancel any burst weapon

[wispy bluff]

Can hold objectives... Until they see a single awake enemy, at which point they drop it and refuse to pick it up until there are no awake enemies

[mint light]

Not without cheating

Has never been done

[sharp siren]

Azert did it with vanilla i think

He the only one crazy to do that

[mint light]

It was with better bots

[mint light]

He would be the one to do it if anyone would do it. that crazy sand beggar

[silk blade]

Bot burst cannon is peak. 22 damage single shot weapon with 65 max ammo

[sharp siren]

Machineguj better

[silk blade]

Nah burst is better cause bots fire it like a semi automatic

And rarely miss shots

[balmy moat]

We finally getting out of the complex with this one: #gtfo-media message

[sharp owl]

kaiser

[blissful dome]

real

[charred ember]

Sometime during error alarm or mission that require u to keep running like R6CX. Lock melter is very clutch

im pretty sure ppl dont like protecting u hacking a locker that probably only have like a glowstick in it lol

[shut vapor]

Consider mother next to locked box

[analog flicker]

[steep elm]

thanks spritefall

[frigid charm]

Are the boosts one-time?

or they remain after expeditions

if i use them

[rose nova]

they are one use, or three use [so only there for three tries]
depends on what they say

but yeah u drop in with em, and if u fail or not it gets used

[sharp owl]

boosters have 1-2-3 uses depending on the tier

muted are always 1
bold 1-2
aggressive 1-3

[frigid charm]

ok thx guys

[sharp owl]

[steep elm]

man R1B2 is quite difficult even with bots

[sharp owl]

the big room makes it hard to defend when they can spawn in 2 directions 1 being completely open

but u can do it

with enough tries

[gaunt lichen]

Go auto weapons too (pdw, machine pistol, veruta) on the bots as well, they've got good body aim but no trigger discipline (medium/long range weapons better) and don't do headshots so no precision weapons either.

[sharp owl]

they aim for the head first

then body

[rose nova]

usually best flr bots its that yeah, but also long range cause they go like, 70 meters

[sharp owl]

but their accuracy ofc

[rose nova]

so assault rifle,, burst rifle, machinegun

[sharp owl]

just give em bullpup and veruta

ez fix

and by that i mean they will still suck big ding dong in combat cuz devs are super cool

[rose nova]

use better bots just get carried

[sharp owl]

yes get carried

[normal lake]

its a pretty big step up from b1 and a1

[ivory radish]

Do all alerts spawn in such way that you always have doors between you and the creatures?

[sharp owl]

no

enemies spawn 2 rooms away from you

unless its a tight spot they will spawn 1 room away or with you

[ivory radish]

Are spawn locations for enemy's always the same for each mission?

[blissful dome]

no

but they will

uh

i guess spawn in the same sector

[sharp siren]

no, 90% of the alarms follow the same logic of spawning 2 rooms away from you

in some levels some alarms might have custom spawn like 1 room away if the rooms are way to big

[ivory radish]

Yes but it's always same location? So when I restart mission I know from where they attack?

[sharp siren]

i mean it depends on the room setup my man

i cannot tell you otherwise

if you have 2 rooms away left and right then the game will decide where to spawn them

its rng

you setup accordingly

[night parcel]

🤔

HEL Revolver damage is 8.01 right?

if shoting weak point that damage scaling will be 5.937813?

[sharp owl]

Yes

If you multiply the damage with the enemys weak point

And then the guns multiplier

That's the damage

[night parcel]

k thank you

[frigid charm]

anybody want to play?

[regal mauve]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[frigid charm]

oh didnt know, thx

[regal mauve]

np

[ivory radish]

Isn't mine + foam a bit to strong? Just did r1a1 and finished both alerts without firing an shot

[wispy bluff]

There is a myth that devs officially mentioned that mine deployer was a mistake. That's one of the reasons why.
Yes, it is strong. Door + Mine + Foam = wave worth of enemies turned into dust with 0 effort. Many a scan are either bypassed by it completely, or made MUCH easier.
Bonus points if the door in question is close enough for cfoam guy to continuously reinforce.

[mint light]

It's very strong yes

better than sentries if you can keep the door foamed

[ivory radish]

Do all enemy's spawn at same location in alert or can they take different paths so you have to defend multiple directions?

[mint light]

You asked it already and it was already answered.

they spawn 2 rooms away

If there are multiple rooms that are 2 rooms away then it's rng which of those rooms

And within the same alarm it can also alternate between those rooms

[ivory radish]

That does not answer my question 😊

I asked if they can split up

[mint light]

No

[ivory radish]

Thanks

[mint light]

if you're set up is the same, they will always take the same path

If there is multiple spawns and they spawn on both then they ll come from different sides

If you lose a door somewhere before the alarm, it can alter the taken path by the enemy

But same set up = same result

[ivory radish]

That's good to know. So the maps get much more easy once you know the layout and doors

[mint light]

Yes

that is kinda in every game 😅 except procedurally generated ones

[sharp owl]

They also take the path of least resistance

[mint light]

But you'll still need to figure a correct strat and skill up yourself to get through maps. map knowledge will help only so far

So look it over with your team

[ivory radish]

Now the problem is remembering all of the 71 maps 😁

[wary robin]

new to this season anyone wanna help out?

[mint light]

Easier than you think

[mint light]

#lfg-beginners and there are no seasons anymore

[ivory radish]

This is right out crazy. I know not one game that has more than 30 maps. Let alone 71. Usually you need to pay several season passes to get even close if half the number

I finished one map so far r1a1 😆

[mint light]

there is A LOT of reused rooms

so don't worry

[mint light]

on you go then. lots to do. hit the lfg when you hit a wall

[ivory radish]

I played it in release for some hours all solo and thought it's just that hard and gave up.

[mint light]

It's still impossible solo

But you can go far

If you put the work in

[ivory radish]

Yep and it had no bots and no matchmaking. I thought it's just how the solo experience is

[mint light]

No there is not meant to be a solo experience 😅 only some crazy dudes do that shit. solo is more like for challenge runs

[ivory radish]

Now I can see why the game is really awesome. Even with bots it's way better than pure solo

[mint light]

You have seen one level. you got a lot to do

[unreal crystal]

pure solo is fun

Tests your skill a lot

Helped me get a lot better

but it’s hard

[ivory radish]

Yep! I tryd second level. Liked it was more to search for the 10 ID. It was not that linear than r1a1

But got crushed by some alert 😁

[mint light]

There are 18 ID's in the level and you only need 12. so choose wisely where you go and have fun

[unreal crystal]

Were you pure solo this entire time?

[ivory radish]

Found 6 of em before I had the security door

No. I had 3 bots

[unreal crystal]

I see I see

[ivory radish]

Foam. Mine. Sentry and bio

[unreal crystal]

I was gonna say for a new player it would be pretty rough

but bots make it pretty manageable, I think you can make it quite far with them

[ivory radish]

Security alert was in a very big room with just one access to it so I setup my defenses there. But the scans made me leave my position. They where a floor below me and that killed me in the end

[unreal crystal]

Yeye

I can understand the pain

I can offer advice if u want but I’d rather let you try figure stuff out yourself first

[ivory radish]

It was still very fun and gave me some nice horror cos I was like "I'm not going down there" but I had to! 🤣

[unreal crystal]

yup yup

[ivory radish]

I'm fine. Reading lots of wiki and got the weapon doc charts

[unreal crystal]

I wouldn’t worry about weapon stats too much, of course it matters but I think there’s more important things you could be focusing on

[ivory radish]

Weapons are my main problem. I just can't decide. I spent 5 hours restarting r1a1, chosing 2 weapons. Kill the first ones and restart + repeat 😎

I kinda like the heavy smg main due to its sight and it aims great

[sharp owl]

Stop doin that

Pick whatever looks coolest

You'll do great

[unreal crystal]

id say just use everything and decide what you like yeah

[ivory radish]

Thata the problem. So many cool weapons 😁

[unreal crystal]

Like every game there is a best choice and whatnot, but it’s probably better to just try what you want and use what you like

It’ll be a lot more fun

[ivory radish]

They're all usefully for specific conditions

[sharp owl]

Coolest weapons in my honest opinion
Main: Pistol, Heavy smg, Hel revoler, double tap rifle
Special: High cal, Hel rifle, revolver, precision rifle, veruta

[wispy bluff]

When in doubt - you can always bring the classic FPS MC loadout of Pistol + Heavy Rifle

Doesn't get more basic than that

[ivory radish]

But I think I go auto shoots as special. Lots of stagger and oneshoots weak stuff at close range and lots of ammo

[unreal crystal]

pistol shotgun feels more basic tbh

[unreal crystal]

If that’s what you like then pop off

[coarse grail]

smg shotgun like the tutorial intended us to use

[unreal crystal]

I have faith in u

[sharp owl]

I really don't appropriate har

Use a real gun and take the machineguns

[unreal crystal]

har is fun

I can’t diss the weapon

[sharp owl]

Absolutely not

[wispy bluff]

+10 bullets, +10 bullets

[sharp owl]

What is that sight

[wispy bluff]

Come on you cowards, FIX IT

[sharp owl]

What is that SIGHT

[ivory radish]

Arbalest is cool but the other one I really hate it 😛

[sharp owl]

My god

[unreal crystal]

I used it a fair bit in r6 and the combo of hel revo har was very satisfying

[wispy bluff]

HAR sight is literally okay, what are you talking about

[sharp owl]

You have been gaslit by har

It's manupulating you

[unreal crystal]

I lean more towards the other one personally, but arbalist is the better mg I believe

not a bad pick for now

[sharp owl]

I think veruta is better

But they both very good

Veruta has a nice reload cancel

Can hold your ground until you run out of ammo

Small downtime massive mag and it staggers with 1 hit

I think reload canceling is stupid

[ivory radish]

Yes but arabelest just kills. No stagger needed 😁

[unreal crystal]

he’s so based

[sharp owl]

Dangerously based

[unreal crystal]

just disregard people’s opinions of guns and have fun using what you like

[sharp owl]

Unless its har

[unreal crystal]

allllllright

[ivory radish]

What does har stand for?

[unreal crystal]

keep this up and I’ll solo r1c1 with har to prove a point

Heavy assault rifle

[sharp owl]

Heavy assault rifle

It's not bad i just personally just hate the thing

[balmy moat]

Beth

[sharp owl]

I do not like anything about it

[ivory radish]

I hate har. Strays like a complete joke

[balmy moat]

Do you think dumb people will understand the 60 second guide

There's no way they don't right

[unreal crystal]

I didn’t watch it

it’s not very useful tbh good

Void*

[sharp owl]

The what

[unreal crystal]

it’s a shitpost

[balmy moat]

It wasn't supposed to be

It was supposed to be troll

[unreal crystal]

exactly

So I have no answer to your question

[balmy moat]

Fair enough

[sharp owl]

Link

What is this guide

does gtfo have a lot of content?

like how long is the game

[balmy moat]

#guides-and-reviews message

[sharp owl]

It has like 71 levels or something i think

or is it very replayable

[sharp owl]

wow

thats a lot

[wispy bluff]

Very long

[sharp owl]

im so hyped i just got the game

looks sick

[coarse grail]

I'd say depending on your teams you should get 200+ hours easily if you try to complete everything

[unreal crystal]

Replayability is pretty subjective too

[wispy bluff]

71 level, average completion time for an averagely skilled squad is like 45 minutes (and that's not counting wipes, which will happen)...

[coarse grail]

Replayability varies depending on if you want to challenge yourself further

[unreal crystal]

I can play a lot of levels over and over and enjoy it

but a lot of ppl just get their clears

Which is valid

[sharp owl]

Honestly:

By itself it's not that amazingly replayable, there is some variation if you choose to run the same mission twice

But there's so many missions that you'll probably forget what many of them are about, and you can replay those almost blind again

[ivory radish]

Auto. As a new player it took me 7 hours to finish first map and fail in the second one. Out of 71 maps. Now do the math 🤣

[sharp owl]

Dementia club

does it get updated a lot

Nop

[wispy bluff]

Yes and no

We are due to the final update

And then its over

The game might be dead for good in year

Minus veterans speedrunning their world records, of course

[sharp owl]

Optimization patch please

I beg

[balmy moat]

Once they're all run even then it'll just drop

You can only go so far

[sharp owl]

good thing i decided to get it now

cause its a unique game

[unreal crystal]

fun game

[little ridge]

Yeah that's a definite possibility

Probably even before that

[sharp owl]

No way

Why

People will still play it

[little ridge]

I give it perhaps 2-3 months after r8 release before the playerbase begins dropping rapidly

maybe even less than 2 months

[sharp owl]

Shit

[balmy moat]

I can see that, yea

Hopefully R8 got plenty of levels

[sharp owl]

Ok wait when is r8 coming then i need to get my clears in

[little ridge]

I mean look at it this way: There's people that, with alts, join in, finish the rundown, then leave

After r8 they might aswell quit the game and that's it

[burnt flume]

hey I know these guns

[unreal crystal]

Yeah that’s why they’re basic

🥰

[sharp owl]

Who wants to help me clear the entire r4 r5 r6 and r7 catalog real quick

[unreal crystal]

no

I sleep soon :D

[balmy moat]

Asking for a carry?

Ehhh

I would if I wasn't bored out of my mind

[little ridge]

Just play normally

[burnt flume]

🧡

[little ridge]

When r8 gets released and the playerbase kinda dies, eventually, just load up better bots or whatever

I know it's basically cheating

but if NOONE else plays

[unreal crystal]

what a sad state of affairs

[little ridge]

And you're stuck basically alone

might aswell load that

[balmy moat]

Lol bet that you can walk through all levels of R8 with better bots

No shooting required

[little ridge]

most probably you're going to

[coarse grail]

At this point you could just watch a video of someone else completing it

Then you can eat at the same time

[wispy bluff]

The final patch will be officially implementing better bots into the main game so that people could actually finish it

(Not R4E1 though, i'm sorry)

[little ridge]

🤷‍♂️

Again, if the alternative is to not play at all

Who cares

Not like there ain't people playing alone with whatever the fuck passes as a mod anyway

No harm done at that point

[balmy moat]

I mean

According to Ray R4E1 only needed a little bit of shooting

[coarse grail]

Not saying it does harm but I don't really see the point of doing that

[balmy moat]

Better bots can still complete it

[little ridge]

ray did it

[burnt flume]

I mean if betterbots shreds tanks then it shouldn't be too hard

[little ridge]

And better bots destroy everything that ain't a tank (even then they dont really suck at it from my limited experience with them)

[sharp owl]

Better bots or not if they get a clear los they will kill tanks

Elevation is king

[wispy bluff]

What do you do about mothers? Just shoot them? Bots slaughter everything else?

Talking reactor, of course

[sharp owl]

Bots can deal with babies

So u are on mom duty

[ivory radish]

How could the bots be better? So far they do theyr job in r1a1 kinda well

[sharp owl]

It's a mod

[raw igloo]

Hello!

[coarse grail]

Hi!

[sharp owl]

Yes because you have yet to see what the game has to offer and how bots are garbage in deeper tiers

[balmy moat]

Yea

Bots are fucking broken

Tank is the only "issue" for better bots

Wouldn't even call it an issue

They absolutely shred everything

Better bots being QoL is laughable at this point

[gaunt lichen]

I find vanilla bots start struggling in D or E tier missions, just the gimmicks and length of the missions onward are too much

[analog flicker]

People calling better bots QoL now?

You can literally adjust their accuracy setting iirc.

[wispy bluff]

If you exclude accuracy buffs (or tone them down) - then most of their changes are QoL indeed.

Just makes smarter and less suicidal.

People generally don't find issues with how bots shoot, they find issues with literally everything else.

[modern tendon]

bots going to the opposite side of a door as you close it

[night parcel]

🤔

the melee
what is "Stagger Multiplier"

how to work

[last parrot]

how much stagger damage is added per damage

[wispy bluff]

Enemies have stagger HP.
When stagger HP is destroyed - they get staggered / stunned.
Stagger damage is equal to weapon actual damage multiplied by that weapon's stagger multiplier.

[last parrot]

1x stagger is 1:1, 1.5x is 3:2, etc.

[night parcel]

ok got it

[little ridge]

Even vanilla bots kill babies kinda easily

[wispy bluff]

Didn't save me on R5A2, did it.

The screenshot is still out there, somewhere...

[little ridge]

No idea what to tell you, I did that with vanilla bots and people

The only thing inconsistent that I find with vanilla bots is just that sometimes they fuck up during chargers

[wispy bluff]

Chargers and giants.

[little ridge]

Better bots just destroy everything

[wispy bluff]

Just... Just tell them to stay away from those.

[little ridge]

I get around killing giants stealth with vanilla bots kinda easily ngl

You just need to wait for everything to be silent

[last parrot]

sometimes

[ivory radish]

does stacker just repeat?you stacker some enemy and then it resets its values to 0 and you can stacker it again?

[little ridge]

because they pretend they can wake shit up

[little ridge]

Stagger

[wispy bluff]

I had the whole squad get punched down by a single giantsl in R2B2

They just approached him.

[little ridge]

Of course shit like 2 giants hugging each other I just shoot if I must really kill them with vanilla bots

[wispy bluff]

Their AI is an enigma

[little ridge]

They PRETEND they can wake shit up

that's why the aren't gonna move if an enemy glows near them unless something's awake

[last parrot]

which is annoying when they're the guys left behind in a room

[little ridge]

Mix that with the bio bot doing his 360 no scope to tell you "we're up in the shit"

[ivory radish]

what exactly is bad on the bots? i was surprised how good they are doing R1A1. They do stealth when you do, even splitting up to kill different enemys in meele. They shoot accurate, they pick up ammo/medic etc alone and for specific stuff you can just command them?!

[little ridge]

And it looks like they fuck up more often than they do

[earnest forge]

"My motion scanners say you fellas are about to die"

[little ridge]

If there's an alarm going on they cant pick up items

And other things

[ivory radish]

oh ok

[little ridge]

They COULD do that back before alt r1 I think

That and them doing stupid shit sometimes

Like chasing to heal you during an alarm or whatever the fuck

[ivory radish]

hu? i thought bots are new with recent patch?

[last parrot]

• they're slow
• they cant carry in combat
• they can friendly fire
• they dont move while giving resources
• they melee enemies at close range, regardless of number

[little ridge]

Better bots "fixes" that but basically gives them Aimbot (and probably something to make them evade A LOT but whatever) which trivializes content so much it's basically like playing with 3 people who cheat

[wispy bluff]

They can't use no other guns besides full autos or bursts.
Their DPS is low, can't save you from a large horde - it's all on you.
They can't carry objectives during combat or infinite waves.
They do not understand the concept of staying away from enemies that will piledrive them into the floor.

[last parrot]

honestly their aim has never been a problem for me

[little ridge]

SUPPOSEDLY, latest better bots gives an option to turn the aimbot off, but who cares

[wispy bluff]

Also they don't explore and don't scavenge which wastes time in general and is lethal on certain levels.

[ivory radish]

@wispy bluffhu? i thought i already had kinda large hordes in R1A1 Alert lvl 4

[little ridge]

For me neither considering they can shoot through fog and dark and kill shadows

But believe me, better bots are just fucking cheating

[last parrot]

yeah

if BB only fixed the blaring issues it would be much better

[little ridge]

They wreck waves by guns alone

[balmy moat]

Just create an actual bot QoL fix called "ImprovedBots" and fix the blaring issues without making it busted

[ivory radish]

let me just tell you that my survival rate rised big time since i have the bot instead running solo! 😄

[wispy bluff]

Again: I have it on good authority that you can solo rundown 1 with vanilla bots.
And probably half of any other rundown.
And then you get hit with "real" missions. Like R2D2.

[little ridge]

I'd say that if better bots simply had the same aim as vanilla bots they'd be kinda fine?

[ivory radish]

is HEL rifle viable vs bigger targets? or do i need sniper for that?

do i see that right? HEL Rifle can instakill weak enemys with body shots and it even penetrates?

[wispy bluff]

HEL rifle is fine. At least 4 shots to kill a giant. Acceptable TTK.

[wispy bluff]

Yep. Smalls get deleted.

[ivory radish]

should i target giant heads or just go for body?

[wispy bluff]

Body for melee ones, head for the rest.

[ivory radish]

spiky head = ranged, right?

[wispy bluff]

Yep. I reffer to them as sporeheads.

[ivory radish]

the hell rifle charge up is so small its almost not noticeable. Compared to HEL gun its like instantous

[little ridge]

Just call them shooters

[wispy bluff]

all of them

[junior latch]

R2D2 with bots isnt that rough tho?

Also god man, „bots dont kill hordes, its all on you“
You want bots to carry everyones ass?

„They dont explore and loot“
If they did it would 1. be ridicolus to code and 2. super annoying lol

[wispy bluff]

Wasn't defending, just stating facts.

[ivory radish]

@junior latchso they dont open chests but take items if its open?

[junior latch]

If you arent close yes

[junior latch]

Ok another fact then

Bots dont insta win you the lobby on drop fix pls

[ivory radish]

@junior latchthats actualy a good solution, gives player most control and if you dont want it, the bots will take it

[little ridge]

Considering that bots already get shit like being 100% silent or built-in thermals, dont get infected, yeah, them looting would be too much

[lunar oriole]

Still havent beaten R1C1 true solo. Failed one too many times and decided for a few days break

[little ridge]

You can even cheese cells pickups in stuff like r2d1 with bots

They already have enough cheats as it is

[lunar oriole]

whoever proposed I try instead of skipping reactor levels, damn you

[junior latch]

just dont true solo as a newbie?

[lunar oriole]

i am so close tho

I did with R1A1 and R1B1

[junior latch]

wdym so close?

r1a1, while decently challenging for an a tier is still just that

And r1b1 is easier than it

c2/d1 are even harder than c1

[wispy bluff]

Also solution to no scavenging is very easy.

Like very

[junior latch]

?

[lunar oriole]

i can do it, i just need to git gud, if I take enough L's and diagnose them correctly i will do it in no time

last attempt I managed to get to wave 5 before being overrun

[wispy bluff]

When we break /hack / melt locks - lockers and boxes in question open automatically.
Bots, for whatever reason, are excluded from that behavior. They just destroy the lock, but box / locker remains closed and has to be manually opened by the player.

[junior latch]

i mean obviously, if you improve you will get it done (as long as its smth possible)

[junior latch]

Because they would fucking pick up stuff immediatly

artek

[wispy bluff]

Just change that and it will be a bot QoL

Bot found ammo, bot picked up ammo.

[junior latch]

people are annoyed by bots stealing stuff already

IT WILL NOT BE QOL

[balmy moat]

R1C1 with hardmode.dll

[junior latch]

it will be anti qol

[junior latch]

[junior latch]

Player annoyed because they wanted ammo, not bot

woooh fuuun

artek you need to think about what changes do

[wispy bluff]

I did, and I'm fine with it in the moment. Make it a setting that can be changed, I don't know.