gtfo-chat

[junior latch]

and 2nd alarm you just shoot

[trim heath]

then just blast giants with sth

ye

I forget how many mines r7a1 starts you with

but I think you get at least 3 so that also helps with extraction

since theres a door there

[junior latch]

it is always the same (r7c3 exception)

[trim heath]

interesting, never paid attention to starting resources

I'm gonna give it a go, think it will be interesting to see

got through the first alarm, played bad tho lost 60% hp

[sharp owl]

that's not too bad

with bad sentry placement i sometimes dont even get through the first alarm

[trim heath]

didn't use any ammo so far

[sharp owl]

hang on which mission are you doing

[trim heath]

r7a1

[sharp owl]

oh ok

[trim heath]

true solo no consumables no resources

[sharp owl]

alright

i hope you don't get any giants on alarms

[trim heath]

I have 6 shots of sniper

I hope I dont miss

[rose nova]

i dont think u can get bigs on alarm no matter what until the ending

but i am unsure if even the ending spawns em

[trim heath]

think ending can

[rose nova]

ive seen some but idk if its just bigs from the level that woke up

[trim heath]

nope died to second alarm

I played like crap tho

this is 100% doable

[sharp owl]

may i recommend not taking sniper

take something with more utility

[trim heath]

eh that isnt what killed me

[sharp owl]

cant hurt

[trim heath]

I missed (amazingly) one of my shots in the 2 giant room because this is the first time in 3 months I've used a sniper

and got licked

so I had 20% going into second alarm when I honestly should still be over 50

cant really think of a special weapon that can help me with those giants that I can realistically use against the smalls tho

[burnt flume]

Burst cannon :)

[rose nova]

shotgun

[burnt flume]

Or idk, what'd be the best

[trim heath]

I cant cope with the recoil lol

[burnt flume]

Sawed off revolver or smth

[rose nova]

maybs like, yeah sawed off and machinegun

[trim heath]

hmm

not a bad idea

gonna try that

[sharp owl]

sawed off would be near perfect since it gives you the most damage to dump into stuff like giants

[trim heath]

ye, then either HAR or a machinegun maybe

hel gun?

[sharp owl]

eh

personally i dont like hel gun

most people say it's great

[trim heath]

not really dense enemies either, so cant exploit the piercing

[wispy bluff]

*on spreadsheet

[rose nova]

alarms are pretty close n personal i think a more, close ish range gun its better

[wispy bluff]

It used to be amazing before the charge up nerfs

They were so quick it basically didn't matter

[sharp owl]

what

[wispy bluff]

Now its ass to use for average players, but the waveclear is still there

[rose nova]

i still think is not super bad its just funky to work with

u need to get used to it

[rose nova]

on the numbers

[sharp owl]

just take veruta

leave hel gun to the cracked

[burnt flume]

Hel gun still very good for efficiency and clearing smalls

It lost most of its burst though

[sharp owl]

if

you can use pen

[wispy bluff]

You don't use pen

You just aim and shoot

Pen is a random bonus you get if lucky (which you will be if wave is tight enough)

[wraith marsh]

that is incorrect

but sure

[burnt flume]

Some situations you get insane value from pen, but even if you get no pen and hit only headshots you're still plenty efficient

[pine root]

Pen is to hard

[sharp owl]

if you dont pen use pr or revo

more ammo no chargeup

[burnt flume]

Yeah those guns have higher ease of use, can't remember each guns ammo cap though

[wraith marsh]

how do I teach ppl the pen shuffle

[burnt flume]

But they function fairly closely

[pine root]

You don’t

[trim heath]

rip, mine wasnt as good this time and had to deal with half a wave while on scan

[wraith marsh]

we need a good recording of watching someone do the pen shuffle

because it looks so funny

[wispy bluff]

I imagine its something like pacing left and right so that enemies form a nice train?

[trim heath]

probably

aight this has potential but I'm gonna need to sink time into it that I don't have tonight

gonna go suffer through R7E1 instead

[pine root]

How do you feel about scatter gun

[trim heath]

loathe it

[wraith marsh]

hel shotty scatter solo would go hard

[trim heath]

hel shotty is on my list

[pine root]

wdym your list

[trim heath]

seems like it has potential

for the challenge project

[pine root]

What about the loadout of hel shotty scatter gun

How do you feel about it

[wraith marsh]

im ngl

I dont think r1a1 would even be that bad with that loadout

[pine root]

XD

[trim heath]

I could be persuaded to try it but I have other loadouts I want to try first

[pine root]

I have played 90% of levels with that loadout since r6

And it is disgusting tbh

[burnt flume]

I started rage running r1a1 speeds with hel revo burst cannon and it was adequate, you can get away with a lot

[pine root]

You don’t need gun skill brain dead win button

[burnt flume]

Shooters would suck though

[pine root]

Just never interact with them

[burnt flume]

Yeah if I look at the floor they all go away...

[crystal oyster]

hey does someone know if there has been any winner announcement about the GTFO poster contest?

[pine root]

No

[sharp owl]

what i wanna know is when that trailer comes out with the nicknames

[pine root]

Insider info it comes out mid November

[sharp owl]

neat

[cursive bane]

I can't use snipers lol

I always run out of primary ammo so I can't kill shit

[sharp owl]

dude this is literally impossible

by the third wave my sentry runs out of ammo and i get swarmed

i dont know wtf else to do

i dont have enough time to go resupply it

[analog flicker]

[grizzled bison]

what is impossible elbow guard

i will help

[sharp owl]

allow me some time

to post on youtube my gameplay and then pub review

should only take 3 hours

im trying to true solo r1c1

i've seen a guy do it basically just with the hel revolver

i cannot get through the third wave

at all

[silk blade]

The secret is to never miss

[modern coral]

Unironically

Most combat-heavy levels solo are "oops, I missed one shot that I couldn't afford to miss, and the situation has deteriorated beyond recovery."

[silk blade]

Yea

[sharp owl]

alright how i play is in media

it's just the first 3 waves

[mystic moss]

eagerly awaiting for paragraphs of gameplay analysis

[cursive bane]

I can't use the sniper,someone has a tips ?Like

really

[sharp owl]

like aim?

[cursive bane]

No

I mean

Does the snipers one-shot giants in the head

[pine root]

Pdw quick swap

[sharp owl]

yes this is it's purpose

[cursive bane]

I can't see nothing during missions because of thé fog

[sharp owl]

it kills giants, hybrids, big shooters all in one headshot

[cursive bane]

So it's so hard to use

And I died in the end of the 2nd level, because well, 5 Giants xD

Good AI btw

[rose nova]

if u see like a lot of fog in one section, u can maybs wake it up, get out of there and then snipe em in a chokepoint
tho with bots i guess it would be a bit funkcause they would stagger the bigs

[cursive bane]

Really fucking me over

[sharp owl]

wait for the enemy to beging an attack animation, that will keep their head still

then, crack it open.

r1b1?

[cursive bane]

Yes

2 level of thé game

I'm a beginner

[sharp owl]

u wont need sniper for that level then

you do not need to kill any giants in r1b1

you can sneak past everything

or just not go there

[modern coral]

Learn their animations. If you are new to the weapon/game, wait for attack animations.

Attack animations are the most predictable.

[modern coral]

.

[sharp owl]

and if u do, carry lock melters in case some locker by a giant and u cant afford to wake up the room

i will say

r1b1 fucks you over a lot because it doesn't give you lock melters

[modern coral]

You get plenty on alarm path, but if you're doing alarm path you don't need giant path lmao.

[sharp owl]

if you get unlucky with a spawn and they spawn near a specific padlock in that area you need to stealth kill a giant or pull the room

[rose nova]

tbh i didnt see, almost any

[sharp owl]

exactly

[cursive bane]

Let's just Say I thougt I could sneak between a little sleeper and a box

[sharp owl]

Imo choose the alarm path

[cursive bane]

And I touched one of em

[sharp owl]

remember your ABC's of stealth

[cursive bane]

No Idea what you are saying

[sharp owl]

Always Be Charging (your melee)

charge to max, cancel, charge to max, cancel, yada yada

so if this happens youre ready to bonk

[cursive bane]

How to cancel

[sharp owl]

right click

or shove button

[rose nova]

right click as your charging

[cursive bane]

Wow.

So a good player IS Always charging ?

[sharp owl]

not really it's just something i like doing

but if you're about to do something risky might as well be ready for the consequences

[cursive bane]

I see

[sharp owl]

i try to keep my melee charged when i'm doing risky stuff

S tier tips fr

[rose nova]

yeah if u kill somethin like in a crowded room, startin to charge the melee right awya can be good for killin somethin near it u didnt see

[modern coral]

R1B1 has three cardinal directions from the beginning, each which emphasizes a certain threat. You typically get lock melters on the path with the most alarms, but if you are doing that path then you can probably get most of your IDs from there and not need to explore the giant path (the path with all of the sleeping big enemies).

[sharp owl]

that too

You kill a sleeper with melee, you then immediately start charging up again

[cursive bane]

Wait wait wait

[sharp owl]

doesn't matter if you saw anything or not, just do it

it will save you if you missed something

[cursive bane]

Your telling me there is more than 12 id ?

[sharp owl]

yeah of course

there's probabyl 18-20

[cursive bane]

Oh

Oh Fuck

[sharp owl]

you only need 12

there are more than 12

[cursive bane]

Yes but- owh.

[rose nova]

no its a positive !
means u can choose ur own way to go, coordinating with ur strenghts

[cursive bane]

Brb

[cursive bane]

It's good yes

[rose nova]

:D

[smoky notch]

im new to the game, do i need people to play or is it possible to go through it all single player

[rose nova]

hello! u can check the LFG channels to share n join lobbies! the instructions are in https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/653623062964731920

[sharp owl]

it is not possible to go through it single player and it's also just plain not fun

[rose nova]

doing it alone its yeah super hard

[sharp owl]

bots are dum

[rose nova]

bots are an option

but u can only do so many missions with them

the harderst ones need teams

[smoky notch]

ok

[sharp owl]

unless you're a god

there are some gods that do the hardest missions alone without any bots and they do like what 7 hour runs or something ridiculous

[rose nova]

they, are funky kmdksm

[sharp owl]

gods?

[tall pewter]

you can do all of the A and B levels with 3 bots without too much hastle

[sharp owl]

basically

sweaty nerds

[rose nova]

yeah you can do all a and b tier, c tiers usually get more complicated but are possible, and then d tiers are kinda the part where they start to fall apart

depending of the rundown of course

[sharp owl]

any tips with this #gtfo-media message

i am hitting a wall

[modern coral]

I mean, that's just the level tbh.

You might want to clear as you retreat to reactor, but you have to time it correctly, or you might want to play non-MG.

[sharp owl]

what non mg thing do i take

[modern coral]

The issue w/ MG is that it thrives at sustained clear, which is great in multiplayer, but in solo you might be hurting.

[sharp owl]

it looks pretty damn sustained to me

[modern coral]

HEL Gun, HEL Rifle, Burst Cannon are the best I can think of. Shotgun or High Cal might also do it, I know High Cal has been used in R2D2 solo.

That's the problem, you don't need sustained in solo, you need burst.

[sharp owl]

why is that

[modern coral]

Combat shotgun would be great if not for range, and ideally you want to get ahead of the waves to minimize pressure.

You need to clear 2-3x the enemies you would normally at the same pace.

If you sustain can't keep up with it, it's just an automatic loss.

[sharp owl]

with the sentry in place i can do it

but giants are a massive roadblock that require a ton of attention

and i do not have enough time at all to restock the sentry with ammo, i can barely get to the bridge in time

in the first 2 waves i killed the last enemies like 5 seconds after it was over

in the last one there were still 9 left and a giant

because the sentry went out

[silk blade]

Engage master skills and melee the rest of the enemies down while dodging

[silk blade]

You move the supplies around right

[sharp owl]

not enough time

[silk blade]

Like you move high tool closer to you

[sharp owl]

do you read my words

[silk blade]

And low tool far

[sharp owl]

i do not have enough time to reach the sentry

[silk blade]

I mean in advance

Like before you start the reactor, do you move all the resources around swapping them with eachother so useful ones are more in reach

[sharp owl]

no i dont because it doesn't matter

i don't live long enough for this to become a problem and i am not going to spend another 3 minutes of prep, my runs of r1c1 are 8 minutes of stealth and 3 minutes of fighting, then i die

it's a waste of my time

[silk blade]

Then isn't the only real answer to just get better at fighting off the enemies

Be more accurate, shoot faster, etc

[sharp owl]

is sniper sentry a better choice or am i holding at a bad spot

i think i should try holding further back on bridge and just try and abuse pen with hel rifle

[steep elm]

why the heck is the first level such a hassle

[sharp owl]

it's really not

[steep elm]

it is, kind of

[sharp owl]

it's 2 alarms and pinging a key

[rose nova]

it is for a newie i guess

[sharp owl]

what part of it is a hassle

[balmy moat]

You’re redoing training on a bigger scale

R1A1 was designed not to be a hassle

[rose nova]

the part where u die

i guess

[steep elm]

adjacent sleepers waking up the whole crew

[rose nova]

ah

lil tip

enemies when they glow, can detect u killing one from much farther away

usually the trick is waiting for em to be down and not sensing, and then killing their buddy

that way unless its really really close it wont wake up

[steep elm]

actually helpful

thanks i suppose

and what do you mean by really close

how close

[sharp owl]

this isn't a level specific hassle this is a fundamental aspect of the game

[rose nova]

like, um the corpe touchin their friend

[sharp owl]

half a meter

[rose nova]

they a newie cut em some slack ksks

[steep elm]

yeah i didn't mean it as a level specific problem

[balmy moat]

.

Might want to reword better next time

[steep elm]

*already such a

mb

[sharp owl]

learning the fundamentals of stealth is a necessity

Hitting a sleeper that's near other sleepers will wake them up
Hitting a sleeper within 8 meters ish of other glowing sleepers has a chance to wake them up
Hitting enemies in the head, back, or back of the head deals more damage, prioritize hitting from behind and aiming at the head where applicable

[balmy moat]

13, if I’m not mistaken?

[pine root]

If you take the bio tracker if the middle of the circles are overloading then they are to close about 1.5 meters or something

[sharp owl]

no idea, i just said a number that felt right

[balmy moat]

@pine root Long range aggro is 13 m right?

[lost lynx]

oh boi

good luck on the game

if you think the first level is a hassle

[pine root]

13 but it will be the closest glowing sleeper as well

[balmy moat]

Ye ye

[sharp owl]

smiles in r5

[balmy moat]

Sleepers have a 5 m detection radius?

[wraith marsh]

the range is
if it doesnt glow from me walking

if it does aggro from further

complain

👍

[steep elm]

probably should just check the wiki

[rose nova]

ummm

nah

wiki is kinda, with some spoilers that can be seen very easy tbh

[sharp owl]

the basics are just
Hit enemies when nothing is glowing
Don't hit enemies when they're close together

[rose nova]

think its better to ask questions instead

[steep elm]

why

[lost lynx]

because you can spoil yourself

and this game has amazing moments

[sharp owl]

this game has secrets

[lost lynx]

||and painful||

[sharp owl]

and things to discover

wiki has spoilers

[lost lynx]

GTFO is the game you DONT want to spoil yourself

seriously

[sharp owl]

too bad im addicted to spoiling it for myself

rip r6d1

[steep elm]

then any tips on how to deal with giants in close proximity to each other

[balmy moat]

Wiki won’t spoil anything

[lost lynx]

shoot them

[sharp owl]

you dont

[balmy moat]

As long as you only access content page

[sharp owl]

not alone

[balmy moat]

Or how to play

[lost lynx]

if you cant stealth get ready and shoot

or just dont attack and leave them alone

[steep elm]

suppose just sneaking is better than wasting ammo

[sharp owl]

yes

only kill when you have to

[lost lynx]

sometimes you will have to shoot

stealth on this game sometimes is out of the picture

[sharp owl]

the objective is never to kill sleepers.
sleepers are just in the way sometimes

when you can avoid them, avoid them. The objective gets done with 50 or 90 kills

[lost lynx]

if you see you cant stealth or move without waking the enemies

[wraith marsh]

what the fuck are you saying

[lost lynx]

just shoot

and die

[sharp owl]

me or pablo

[wraith marsh]

elbow have you become one of us

or are you being serious

[sharp owl]

i am being serious

[wraith marsh]

awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

[lost lynx]

looks at reactor levels

[sharp owl]

do you think it's a good idea to go in r1b1 and pull the entire zone

no

[wraith marsh]

if you arent clearing every enemy

you should learn how

not leave them be

[sharp owl]

so when you don't need to kill, don't bother killing

less risk

[lost lynx]

or just dont kill until you are ready

then kill everything

[rose nova]

if ur playin with people, u can get ur team to hit many at once
if ur with bots, u can hit one, immediatly start chargin and have the bots help u eliminate the ones that woken up, the bots will go for melee kill if the rooms still sleeping

[pine root]

There is enough ammo to just shoot

[pine root]

Shoot them

[wraith marsh]

jish

am I wrong

does what elbow was saying not read like a vet giving misinfo intentionally

[steep elm]

after a few games, it can be said that there is never enough ammo

[pine root]

It does

All sleepers are ones or twos vibe tbh

[lost lynx]

there is never enough RESOURCES
but in the first levels they are

:b

[steep elm]

wait if you clear rooms, does that decrease the amount of enemies during scans

[lost lynx]

no

[wraith marsh]

what if I told you

[last parrot]

you technically dont need to kill any sleepers that arent close to alarm or blood doors

[balmy moat]

Depends

[wraith marsh]

there is always way too much

[sharp owl]

no

[wraith marsh]

stick with the game long enough and you will notice this

[pine root]

In every single level besides r7e1 there is more than enough ammo

[sharp owl]

well not in princible

[balmy moat]

Enemies in rooms will wake up sometimes if you don’t clear rooms close enough to an alarm door

Because there’s a horde trampling across them

[tall pewter]

as a general rule, you should aim to kill the sleepers that you can kill within reason

[balmy moat]

But if you’re strictly speaking about just the alarm itself, no

Nothing changes that

[steep elm]

what's their movement detection radius btw, or atleast an estimate of

[rose nova]

umm about, 2 meters or somethin?
its more just

like

its about feel

[pine root]

10 meters

[rose nova]

when u play a lot u can kinda tell by distance

[lost lynx]

10-15

meters

[pine root]

One bio tracking big circle

[rose nova]

u can tell im bad measuring distances

[lost lynx]

yeah

[pine root]

Yup

[lost lynx]

i can see that

[rose nova]

q-q

[steep elm]

well time to game i suppose

[lost lynx]

you can move until they start making sound

like if they are glowing theres still a window to move

a really short window of time

but if their heart beat starts then you want to totally stop

[steep elm]

thank

[last parrot]

thats reserved for emergencies imo

[lost lynx]

yeah

knowing that sooner would have changed a lot of my runs

[pine root]

??????????¿¿¿

?????????????

Ah yes this very helpful and useful tech is reserved for emergencies

[lost lynx]

it kinda is when theres a bunch of them or a scout closing distance

[pine root]

Hate to say it you would have less emergencies if you just used it?

[lost lynx]

if there is just a few of enemies then just go crazy

[pine root]

If you understand wake up mechanics double killing and speed killing is safer

[lost lynx]

thats what i mean with "go crazy"

[balmy moat]

Long range aggro control >

[pine root]

No even when it is crowded

Lots of sleepers

[lost lynx]

sleeper masacre

[steep elm]

silencers would've been helpful to an extent

they should add it

[lost lynx]

no

they shouldn't

[pine root]

They exist

[balmy moat]

It does exist

[pine root]

Hiding

[balmy moat]

Lol

[pine root]

I love my silent scattergun

[lost lynx]

actual silencers would ruin the game
no joke

[pine root]

I have a clip for you

[tall pewter]

melee is your silenced weapon

[lost lynx]

oh god

send it

[wraith marsh]

which one

theres so many good ones you could send

[lost lynx]

i expect the worse

[balmy moat]

R7D2 clip

[last parrot]

better to be able to move even if you advance less per cycle

[pine root]

True mom kill

[wraith marsh]

what

[lost lynx]

💀

cursed

silent scattergun

[pine root]

I use it in real runs

R7e1 we did it a few times last night

[wraith marsh]

I hate that thats true

you have a problem

all of you do

beth, bread

[balmy moat]

[wraith marsh]

silent shooting is a disease

[pine root]

Beth doesn’t silent shot

She is host

[wraith marsh]

she does it whenever shes not host

[pine root]

He has thinks spending more glowing cycles reaching sleepers is safer

Than getting the distance

[wraith marsh]

I love not going the distance

[unreal crystal]

tbh jish this is a pub take as well

there is enough in r7e1

u can always get the funny code 3 ammo too :DDDDD

[pine root]

I know but it is the only level semi tight

Not even any more with pen guns

[unreal crystal]

yeah

ammo is never rlly a problem unless its a player issue

[modern coral]

I think you could say other levels are around as tight.

You just feel it more on E-tier.

R4C3, R5D1, and such.

[analog flicker]

I ran out of ammo on R7D2 || ( this is a joke obviously ) ||

[modern coral]

"I'm low on ammo" not even 2 minutes after we move into a new room in R7D2.

Finding storage containers is a skill.

[unreal crystal]

Need the eyes perk to find them

[quartz cape]

got bad rng, no ammo spawns

[sharp siren]

Smg its better for me dickhead

Wachu gonna do about it

[kind helm]

Is there a way for me to move the GTFO window when my display settings are in windowed mode?

[vestal crystal]

i felt that r5b3 was pretty tight on ammo

though it was with a full pub so idk how they were shooting

[rose nova]

me missing all the mags in my dmr and sniper not killing a single enemy and askin for 4 uses of ammo at the end

[modern coral]

R5B3 is a little rough sometimes, yeah.

I think it might have more to do with how much you loot, though.

In that sense, it's not far off of the other levels listed. Mix of high cost for mistakes, a low total supply of ammo, ammo that is hard to reach to actually use, threats that encourage you to spend your limited ammo, etc.

It is B-tier, though, so that arguably makes it a good example of a level that is tight on ammo for where it is in progression.

Something like R2D2 is much closer to players being excessively wasteful, imo.

[humble meteor]

Just curious, How hard is this game in terms of PVE combat?

So far I've noticed that other aspects of it seem to be simplistic but I haven't had that much experience with the combat itself, only basic stealth section from the tutorial.

[modern coral]

It's deceptively simple.

It's the aspect of the game that the average player seems to struggle with most.

[green flume]

I think most new player struggle more with decision making and easy to panic

[modern coral]

Combat just connects to a lot of different things.

[humble meteor]

Also, another thing that I've noticed. Is the in-game matchmaking dead?

I was unable to find any games.

[modern coral]

Yes, it's not very good and the playerbase is already a bit on the small side, so it kind of died out starting in R6.

[humble meteor]

How active is the playerbase nowadays?

[modern coral]

More active around patches, but you can find games.

Maybe not for every single level, but it's surprisingly active.

[regal mauve]

your best bet is the lfg

[indigo rain]

Парні тут є українці хтось буде грати (якщо що то я новачок в грі)

[wispy bluff]

Try #hc-europe i think there's a dedicated community there somehwere

[junior latch]

Take god damn combat shotgun lol

efficient vs giants/smalls
Immense starting ammo

[serene jewel]

yeah but can it snipe scouts or hybrids from across the room

[lofty grotto]

No

[true pilot]

Just run up to them

[lofty grotto]

I believe PR, Hel Rifle, and Sniper are capable of that

[true pilot]

choke mode can

if you are lucky

bc can to some extent

[blissful dome]

high cal?

[true pilot]

Maybe back of head

otherwise high cal can oneshot scouts within like 5 meters

[blissful dome]

well technically

if youre lucky

scatter

techincally

can

[junior latch]

you do know the context for this message right?

[junior latch]

wat

[coarse grail]

Hical can kill scouts pretty easily, don't need to be super close

It has big damage falloff but it also has big damage

[junior latch]

highcal does like 50% overkill on head yea

[blissful dome]

rev to back of head :D

[junior latch]

so you need its dmg to drop to ~20

[coarse grail]

thats something like 30m away

[lofty grotto]

I’m just remembering all of my memories of this game from the early days

[wispy bluff]

What?

[blissful dome]

high cal clearly has 1 meter dropoff

you didnt know?

[coarse grail]

POV you make a mistake in gtfo-chat:

[wispy bluff]

⛽

No emote for gas can, unfortunately

[sharp owl]

just found out bat can very easily deal with chargers

full charge their back and then tap

pretty cool

[wispy bluff]

Isn't dagger somewhat the same?

Back charge into another full charge or something like that

[sharp owl]

no clue because i don't have the balls to do that

i kinda doubt it though

its 5.5 x2 x2 which is 22 and then 5.5 damage

you need to hit the back

with the second charge

[coarse grail]

two knife full charges on back is 22 + 9 I think so ye

Pretty tight angle requirement

[sharp owl]

chargers are so fucked

[wispy bluff]

Two backstabs, or tree worse case scenario

[sharp owl]

i did r1c2 because i got bored of c1 and wooo

[wispy bluff]

I've seen people reliably do the double stab

[sharp owl]

charger alarm woooohooooo

no idea what to take for that

prolly hel auto and carbine

[coarse grail]

Hel auto 💀

Thats not gonna be it

[wispy bluff]

HELRev and HELRifle

[junior latch]

?

[sharp owl]

burst sucks big fat gorilla dick against chargers

[coarse grail]

Some kind of piercing secondary is probs a good idea

[wispy bluff]

No competition for charger cleansing

[junior latch]

shotgun can unironically work decently well due to cutthroat angles

[wispy bluff]

Or you can become unhinged and try HELShot + CombatShot

[junior latch]

for r1c2, if you learn the last rooms jump spots for going up quickly then you can do that alarm somewhat easily

[sharp owl]

i prefer distance to be honest with chargers

[junior latch]

the first charger alarm is honestly more of a hassle

[sharp owl]

they are not nice

[wispy bluff]

Hey Eva

[junior latch]

hey artek

[coarse grail]

Yeah hel shotgun combat shotgun sounds a bit rough regarding their range

[sharp owl]

the first charger alarm

epic.

[wispy bluff]

Who will kill more chargers: burst or Sniper sentry without bio?

[sharp owl]

sniper

[junior latch]

sniper should

sniper just has targetting speed issues

hell even with bio it will not shoot too much rn

[sharp owl]

ill just take hel

[wispy bluff]

Yeah... Cringe...

[sharp owl]

i dont expect sentries to manage to kill em

[wispy bluff]

Sniper oneshots them, when it's kind enough to aim at one

Roll the dice, my friend

[sharp owl]

btw isnt helrev a 4 shot kill

[junior latch]

yes

[sharp owl]

sounds like a lot

[wispy bluff]

Eh

It's chargers

[junior latch]

suprise, 30 hp only bodyshots is a lot for mains

[coarse grail]

They are just tanky

[wispy bluff]

You're not getting better than that

[coarse grail]

Carbine is also 4 shots

[junior latch]

dmr is too

[sharp owl]

bigger mags

[junior latch]

sawed off 1 taps, but well

:p

[sharp owl]

yeah i tried sawed off

[junior latch]

sawed off is better vs charger errors than actual alarms

[wispy bluff]

It's 4 shots + it pens + it staggers them with every shot

[sharp owl]

not recommended for living

[junior latch]

no pen

[sharp owl]

why's this game gotta be so hard to do solo

[coarse grail]

Pen is surely gonna be even better for solo cos they aren't gonna split between players

[sharp owl]

it's almost like the developers never intended for anything like this to be playable

without a team

[wispy bluff]

Oh gee, I wonder why...

[coarse grail]

I mean you can have bots if you want 🙂 They solve the two biggest issues with solo play: not having enough tools and not having enough bodies in scans

[sharp owl]

ikr!! what the heck

[frigid charm]

hi everyone, i just bought this game

[sharp owl]

hi oscar!

[coarse grail]

Hello Oscar welcome

[frigid charm]

should i like find a party or something?

[sharp owl]

if you want a team with which you can play this game, you can take a look in the LFG channels

[coarse grail]

#how-to-matchmake

This server has an LFG system, its better than the in game matchmaking

[frigid charm]

oh? didnt expected to be so welcome

[sharp owl]

and yeah this game is made for a team of 4 humans

not 1 human and 3 bots or 1 human by themselves

[frigid charm]

but i can still play alone?

[coarse grail]

If you choose to, yes

[sharp owl]

sure, the game won't stop you

but the difficulty sure as shit will

[coarse grail]

Bots will get you through a few levels, and it is somewhat helpful to your learning to try and navigate the level independantly

[sharp owl]

the game doesn't change its difficulty or mechanics depending on how many players are in the lobby

(like what deep rock galactic does for example)

so if you choose to play alone you need to deal with 4x the enemies and scans take way longer and stealth is harder because you don't have a team to help out

[frigid charm]

do i have to make my own prisoners or they are premade by devs?

[sharp owl]

they're premade characters

but there are cosmetics

[coarse grail]

You can dress them up in new clothes

[frigid charm]

this game reminded me abt drg so much yk

[sharp owl]

i came here from drg

[frigid charm]

me too xd

[sharp owl]

wanted a more tacticool and gamer experience

and here we are

[frigid charm]

i just wanted to play something atmospheric and cool

[true pilot]

Man says drunk dwarves arent gamer

[sharp owl]

i meant like hardcore

[frigid charm]

EDD while drunk isnt hardcore enough?

[sharp owl]

drunk dwarves are gamer but just hold m1 with a flamethrower or 50cal cannon

[sharp owl]

okay fair point

[true pilot]

well this game is a decent choice then

[sharp owl]

we can hop in the first mission together if u want oscar

[frigid charm]

oh it would be so nice of you

[true pilot]

Just dont carry him elbow

[sharp owl]

i wont

carrying is a crime

[frigid charm]

in 10 min norm?

[sharp owl]

slow and steady is the most fun

ye

[frigid charm]

also im only fluent in english just so you know

[sharp owl]

all good

[junior latch]

[coarse grail]

Can't believe you rezzed us all on R5E1 yday you toxic carrylord

[junior latch]

man i hate that one of the moms decided to face me 24/7

couldve bursted her, then the other. then we gucci

[coarse grail]

I honestly wasn't expecting us to do that zone til we got the cell xD

[junior latch]

well usually you do cell first ye

[coarse grail]

So I was in a bit of a headspin, and I understand the issue with the partial pull now

[junior latch]

but i was like "if we die during alarm or cell grab, then we dont get to the fun part thats different"

[coarse grail]

Yeah may as well tackle the hardest part first

fail early if we are gonna fail

[junior latch]

and after the triple down i was on "do we even get that far" mode

[coarse grail]

I encountered a skill issue 🤖

But if you save the right doors the error funnels the same way as the mother zone?

[junior latch]

honestly when i did it before we just pulled straight up through open big left door and had 1 guy watch for error behind

[frigid charm]

@sharp owl

[sharp owl]

yea

[mint light]

still lots to learn I see

Yesterday did not open up his eyes apparently

[halcyon leaf]

''kaiser is going to pipe bomb the main server with 69 alts'' -Kaiser

[mint light]

Are they all cheating?

[halcyon leaf]

slightly

[mint light]

Alrighty

[halcyon leaf]

wait shit i am not an alt of kaiser just relaying the message

[coarse grail]

Get him, mods

[halcyon leaf]

don't shoot the messenger

[crude bay]

Pew pew

[cursive bane]

Where Can I find people of a certain language to play with them ?

[coarse grail]

Look in the highlighted communities channels on the left, there might be one for the region/language you want

i.e. #hc-europe

[knotty bobcat]

I wanna ask the vets

Are E missions (in general) still difficult for y'all?
Or are you sweaty enough that it's also eazy peazy lemon squeezy

(And by vets I mean veterans / long time players, not vetenarians)
((Though I'd like a vet, my hampter sick ))

[gusty burrow]

If it is a veteran squad that have played together a lot and all have 1000-2000 hours... kinda easy

[knotty bobcat]

Difficult on a scale from 0 to 10

[gusty burrow]

Win while soft-throwing kinda realm, can take meme loadouts, take silly risks, that kind of thing

If they're playing 100% sweat for the win, it is a clear every time

[quartz cape]

i flal asleep

[coarse grail]

I'm sorry to hear about your hamster
My static has everyone between about 600-1600 hours and I would still say E levels are difficult. I wouldn't feel assured for a win on any given run, it can come down to how someone is playing on the day, and a mistake could snowball and cost it for us.

[junior latch]

it also depends on if you mean E tiers that weve played before enough or E tiers for the first time

R7E1 now, if played with 3 other vets is a cake walk

R7E1 when i did it first time took us a bit

[coarse grail]

I got my first clear on R5E1 a few weeks ago, with one player who had beaten it and 3 pretty much blind we took 4 or 5 attempts to clear the first error section and then beat it on that run

[knotty bobcat]

[coarse grail]

I should replay E levels a bit more to gain confidence with them cos they still feel shaky

[knotty bobcat]

Just curious in general if the game remains difficult even when you're good at it

[junior latch]

well "veterans" is also a very loose term

[knotty bobcat]

I am also asking very loosely so

[junior latch]

theres players 200 hours in who could be called veterans/experienced (call themselves that maybe) but they are far off the 2000+ hours players

and even in the 2000+ hours stratum you got wildly different skill levels

[quartz cape]

where the r1 homies at

[knotty bobcat]

1000+ hours boyos then

I'm a veteran at r1a1
Played it 5 times now

[sharp owl]

Crazyness

[quartz cape]

no not really

[junior latch]

5

[mint light]

you move on to modded rundowns for the challenge tbh

[knotty bobcat]

Which is the hardest one?
And are they actually difficult or just bullshit?

[silk blade]

If you're good enough even bullshit just becomes difficult I guess

[knotty bobcat]

And by bullshit I mean like 20 big chargers packed into 1 tiny room leaving barely any space between em

Suppose it's doable. But you don't really sit there and think "Yeah that isn't just bullshit"

"Hey guys my rundown is the most difficult in the world. You just have to kill 300 big chargers with no ammo packs"

[junior latch]

shoot them mine them

[knotty bobcat]

Yeah but still

[junior latch]

take legacy as a good indicator for difficulty in more challenging modded rundowns

mostly just E tiers and E tiers

[knotty bobcat]

It's just bs
I see alot of that dumb difficulty in man made stuff.
Same as difficulty levels in games just making enemies hit harder and have more hp
Bullshit difficulty

[quartz cape]

I think gtfo is farily good about having a "novel" challenge for its e tiers

[mint light]

Just pull that room. not worth to stealth

Mods or rundowns?

[modern coral]

Modded has some BS, yeah.

I don't think that vanilla is at the non-BS limit either, though.

[knotty bobcat]

Modded stuff
I'd probably get into it once I'm done with the vanilla game
But I wanna steer clear of "haha look at these 25 big enemies in every room. So difficult right?" Type rundowns

Make it difficult in a fair way. Not a bs way

[sharp owl]

gtfo would go from an 8/10 to a 9/10 if it was optimized

[modern coral]

You could buff existing E-tiers in quite a few places w/out making the content all too insane.

[silk blade]

Not even bad

[knotty bobcat]

The most difficult thing I can think of rn is that 1 central room where 3 doors open and pours in alot of big things and a tank

We went at it like 3 times. Wiped all 3 times. Then gave up for the night after 6 hours of playing

[silk blade]

You can blow up so many things with 3 mines

[mint light]

Nah that's just a communication test

[silk blade]

3 mines does 150 dmg, enough to kill giants of most varieties

[mint light]

I liked the addition of snatchers tho

[junior latch]

R5B3 sec, its not too difficult honestly

[coarse grail]

Would be nice if there was some kind of compendium of modded rundowns giving them difficulty and quality ratings

[mint light]

I thought R5C2 ovl

[coarse grail]

I know this is a comment for the modded server but thats a dark and scary place

[junior latch]

ah might actually be true

[mint light]

If it's R5B3 sec then Icdunno what to say. never wiped on it @knotty bobcat

[knotty bobcat]

I can't remember the level
The 1st time we tried we were so unprepared. We just laughed

[knotty bobcat]

Can't remember what it was

[coarse grail]

Was there a pit around a platform or not?

[mint light]

Pit or pillar room?

[junior latch]

rather, did it spawn enemies gradually, or let them free all at once

[knotty bobcat]

Can't remember
All I remember is giants pouring in

[knotty bobcat]

All at once

[coarse grail]

more likely B3 then

[junior latch]

B3 then

[knotty bobcat]

Ah.

[mint light]

R5B3 yeah. then that is super easy. Just have dedicated sides and shoot em all up

[junior latch]

B3 sec is tough, but not rly close to some later stuff since you can prep

[modern coral]

B3 is really just a test of whether you can rapidly stabilize against the initial wave of enemies.

[wispy bluff]

I don't remember

[mint light]

you never do

[knotty bobcat]

Remembering is hard when brain smooth

[sharp owl]

i agree

but honestly it's fun having dementia

i did R2 and r3

now i dont remember jack shit about them and can essentially go in blind again

[junior latch]

Artek legit has dementia when it comes to this game

[sharp owl]

endless replayability!

[junior latch]

Artek whats R5C3 like

if only artek would actually replay those levels

[quartz cape]

artek only wants to play with beep

[sharp owl]

iv never actually played with artek

i wanna see how the myth the legends plays this videogame

[mint light]

Not well

[mint light]

It's always fun hammering a class VII

[sharp owl]

what's the highest class alarm in the game

Ten?

[mint light]

correct

[sharp owl]

damn

[quartz cape]

rude

[sharp owl]

that is a lot of scans

[mint light]

Why? it's true

[sharp owl]

truth can be rude

[quartz cape]

being honest can still be rude

[mint light]

It can also be essential

[quartz cape]

and also rude

[sharp owl]

rude

smh toxicity in gtfo chat

[mint light]

Meh if they can't handle it. shame for them

[sharp owl]

what has this server become

so toxic

[mint light]

such a rare thing

[charred ember]

i told my team imma solo the giant, they can go take care of the other one. But after im in position. I realized i bring a knife

[sharp owl]

[burnt flume]

also depends on everyone's skill level, like if you have people who've pushed themselves to duo hard missions then playtime is kinda a non-factor

[sharp owl]

oops

[burnt flume]

commit to the bit, I believe in you

it may scream but you can do it

[sharp owl]

give him the ol london special

head then legs then pray

[quartz cape]

common knife L

[sharp owl]

guys i need some advice

for r1c1 do i take sniper sentry or burst sentry

Because on one hand, sniper kinda sucks for smalls, but it's good against hybrids
On the other, burst is good against smalls, not so much against hybrids

sniper did surprisingly well when i placed it further back

[quartz cape]

id say take burst, kill hybrids yourself

[wispy bluff]

Uhhhhhh.... Thunderdome overload?... Or was that C2?...
...
I have faint memories of a very dark labs tileset with a cool corrupted uplink in a big room. Is that it?

[sharp owl]

do i bring sniper specifically for this?

[wispy bluff]

Hey, I'm perfectly average.

[mint light]

the 2nd one. thunderdome is C2

[sharp owl]

or can i still do it with hel rifle and hel revo

[quartz cape]

burst cannon stays winning

[sharp owl]

BC can suck my SC

[mint light]

we'll see about that

[sharp owl]

it's not flexible enough

and also i'm holding way back

[quartz cape]

it is very flexible

[sharp owl]

gosh darnit

i can't really utilize bc where im holding

[quartz cape]

why not

[sharp owl]

the range is too beeg

[wispy bluff]

Are you trying C1 again

[sharp owl]

not as we speak but i plan to

[wispy bluff]

How did HEL rifle experiment go, if you even tried that.

[sharp owl]

i had success by holding back

made it to 4th wave

it was easier

[junior latch]

hel rifle rly only struggles against hybrid spawns, but simply fall back (i started with sentry behind me, giving it more room to shoot)

[sharp owl]

i think i need to learn slide jump reload and how to dodge real good

[junior latch]

just pre burst wave spawns with hel rifle, cover with carbine (or hel revo) to reload. Repeat

[sharp owl]

pre burst?

[junior latch]

as in shoot while they spawn

[coarse grail]

Play r4c3 with him

[mint light]

Mah man

[sharp owl]

i could actually maybe do this if i hold at a different angle

maybe

thing is that i don't have LoS to the spawn room

[junior latch]

wat

[sharp owl]

could boosters maybe carry my ass through it

[junior latch]

where are you holding

[sharp owl]

back of the bridge?

[junior latch]

sit int he hole to start

[sharp owl]

you can't see inside the spawn room from there

[junior latch]

shoot them spawning

then fall back

[sharp owl]

should i though

[junior latch]

why not?

[sharp owl]

that's what i was trying initially

and i got overwhelmed

again and again

[junior latch]

fall back

before you get overwhelmed lol

press s while shooting

[sharp owl]

ill try it

and ig i'll take burst sentry

im actually afraid to take boosters on c1 because you can get awful luck and like 1 locker spawns in the bridge room and the run's dead

because you just dont have tool and ammo

[junior latch]

once you get to wave 4 you fine

you get a ton of time

[sharp owl]

btw how is extraction in c1

will i just die at extraction after doing 8 waves or is it managable

[mint light]

It's a 4 mob error ....

[sharp owl]

oh ok awesome

[junior latch]

you could also

just not shoot wave 8

push up, heal up, grab a big medi

slowly fall back once waves spawn

input code

run past

extract is incredibly quick

[mint light]

Just like sanic

[sharp owl]

there's no way im gonna be able to input the code with an entire wave

i tried doing this once

it did not work

[junior latch]

you are running away from them

its a 4 letter word lol

even if you take 2-3 licks you are fine

[sharp owl]

yeah and i cant get there in time

like how would this work

[junior latch]

????

you push up

slowly fall back so you reach reactor term in time

then run to extract with parcour

[sharp owl]

oh i misunderstood what you meant

[junior latch]

can even kill enemies while falling back of course

[sharp owl]

i thought you meant like

kill nothing in wave 8, intput code and run

[mint light]

Kill nothing wave 1 onwards

kill nothing

kill

[torn grove]

D4rkeva

[mint light]

no fuck that reverses

[sharp owl]

what is up with the scouts are friends role btw

why does that exist

[rose nova]

why not

[sharp owl]

because they're not friends

[rose nova]

they friendos

funky friendos

[torn grove]

They're friends

[mint light]

they are. you just have not started to believe yet

[rose nova]

buddies

hug a scout for a secret ending

[sharp owl]

so let me get this straight

you dont' ever kill scouts

[rose nova]

[gay]

[mint light]

never ever ofc

Why would I

[sharp owl]

"the law requires that i answer no"

[rose nova]

they just let other people do it :]

[mint light]

they friends

[torn grove]

Scouts r cute

[sharp owl]

im gonna get footage of you sledgehammering a scout and get u banned

[rose nova]

sleepers b cute

i wanna pat one

[mint light]

You can try. but I am too fas... but that never happens

[coarse grail]

You'll never catch me killing a scout

[mint light]

I confirm 😂

[quartz cape]

because people in this server think they're funny

[junior latch]

huh

[rose nova]

youll never catch me killin a chimken they my fav enemy they just vibin

[torn grove]

@junior latch

Hoiiii

[sharp owl]

chickens need a buff

[rose nova]

no :3

[sharp owl]

i don't really get why their projectiles are so slow

[junior latch]

[sharp owl]

they're basically useless

[mint light]

I still got incriminating evidence against you

[rose nova]

:O

[junior latch]

Mako are you actually awake

[torn grove]

No !!

I'm welding while half asleep

[rose nova]

think i saw mako stay up till like 12 my time, so like, 2 aam or somethin

[torn grove]

I was up till like 3:30

[rose nova]

close

[coarse grail]

It would be mutually assured destruction. We both know what happened on the first R3B1 alarm

[rose nova]

damn

the drama

[mint light]

Uhm I need to edit some stuff

[junior latch]

oof

[coarse grail]

Dj and I are just some god tier gamer veterans

that would never make a mistake

[junior latch]

Ellda 29.10 in R5E1

[rose nova]

q-q what is this violence

[steep elm]

man playing with bots sucks

[mint light]

It's aight you didn't have me

[sharp owl]

yup

[rose nova]

on some missions yeah

[sharp owl]

find players

[rose nova]

i like em for the most part tho

[mint light]

You'll even never complete the game with em ! so yeah

[coarse grail]

I don't use the hel rifle normally okay 😭

[steep elm]

PICK UP YOUR DEPLOYABLES

[sharp owl]

ill do it

[rose nova]

thank u bishi for savin my 70 sleepin enemy room again

i appreciate it

[steep elm]

sea foam is not c foam

very shocking news

[shut vapor]

Hel rifle fans vs hel shotgun enjoyers

[rose nova]

ceafoam

[steep elm]

no

[mint light]

Yeah no on R5E1 first error take the rifle

[rose nova]

i like my guns soundin powerful not being powerful

[mint light]

like bruh

[coarse grail]

Almost always carbine on main tbh

But also why not both

[sharp owl]

yeah this isn't a competition

they can coexist

[mint light]

Meta scrub switches to hel revo

[steep elm]

just use the pistol

[coarse grail]

ackshually its almost universally agreed that hel revo is the superior main weapon 🤓 yes yes ik thats the joke

[rose nova]

me joinin the first game of gtfo in 10 years to see the three people in the lobby hel revo

[mint light]

It is

I agree

[shut vapor]

Could you imagine using meta weaponry for their meta-ness instead of their coolness

[rose nova]

carbine sucks in coolness dont @ me

[shut vapor]

Assault rifle my beloved

[mint light]

this is why you never complete stuff

[rose nova]

i literally said dont @ me smh

:[

[mint light]

Idc

[rose nova]

i will now die

and um somethin

[mint light]

k

[rose nova]

i prefer hel revos coolness

way more meaty sound

u feel it in ur bowels

[sharp owl]

hel revo needs a dmr reskin

why is it a pistol

[wispy bluff]

Cool gun. Shame it's meta.

[sharp owl]

give this thing a stock and mag and scope

[wispy bluff]

Revolver* 🤓

[sharp owl]

i'd run it constantly if it looked cooler

[rose nova]

smh

[sharp owl]

i have a thing for well designed rifles

[rose nova]

actually for me it woul look so much, worse with a sight but

idk

a revo with a sight sounds weird

pick a carbine

its kinda, that

[wispy bluff]

My man didn't play titanfall 2 clearly

[sharp owl]

who are you speaking to

[rose nova]

i didnt

[junior latch]

[rose nova]

i play gmod they had some revos with sights and i didnt liked em

[sharp owl]

artek

me or slendi

[wispy bluff]

Both

It's a threesided battle royal not-dialogue

[rose nova]

ik what el titancayendose2 is

[sharp owl]

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