gtfo-chat

[little ridge]

What does that mean Fireblade?

[gray pilot]

i am still trying to understand the intended way

give me my thumbs up back

[little ridge]

What do I get in exchange?

[gray pilot]

a rare pepe

[little ridge]

🤔

[wispy bluff]

shivers

[balmy moat]

[little ridge]

Voidspace was faster

[gray pilot]

u can have it

[vernal nebula]

Couldn’t agree more

[surreal plaza]

screenshakes in melee 😍😍

[vagrant veldt]

The first time R7E1 be like.

[gray pilot]

its the intended way

[serene jewel]

Does the sniper only one shot giants if they're asleep

[coarse grail]

no

[serene jewel]

How come sometimes they survive a headshot from it then

[coarse grail]

You're hitting neck or shoulder instead of the head

It still blasts the head off but you didn't hit it properly

[serene jewel]

Oh I've never used it myself but I see others not being able to

[balmy moat]

Invisible giant head @pine root

[serene jewel]

Noted

[surreal plaza]

"Do that again I'm gonna cut you from ARSEhole to breakfast"

what the fuck did Bishop meant by this??

[coarse grail]

Its a common british saying

[surreal plaza]

ah ok

[wispy bluff]

They shouldn't. Sniper missed. Sniper Rifle headshot ALWAYS kills bigs in one headshot.

[surreal plaza]

yeah Snipers will wipe out giants clean off with headshots

the margin of missing is kinda big with them swinging left right while walking

unless you get the cadence right

[rose nova]

u can always wait till they r gonna attack

they stand still in that moment

also bishop means its gonna but his gun in ur ass and press the trigger as vengeance probs

[coarse grail]

whats scary is when he says he is gonna cut you but he has the sledgehammer

[rose nova]

the sledge has a crowbar at the end maybs its sharp idk

[wispy bluff]

For some reason I imagined him using spy's taunt voiceline

[burnt flume]

it is?

[coarse grail]

yeah cockney slang, breakfast down south - mouth, cut arse to mouth. play along

[burnt flume]

it all comes to cockney slang

fucking cockney

[wraith marsh]

pierce

common hel revo W

[green rivet]

Hel revo on top

[thick temple]

@sharp owl #short-clips message is that supposed to say october, not november?

[sharp owl]

Yes

Next edit thx

[lilac tree]

I'm thinking of buying GTFO. I've heard you need a group though? Is it easy to find one?

[thick temple]

a random group to play any level with, yeah pretty easy
a consistent group to be friends with and play consistently, not as easy but not horrible i think
just make sure you use the LFG chats here, instead of in-game matchmaking

[burnt flume]

there are bots you can use which are adequate for the most part

[lilac tree]

Does it run well on Linux?

[burnt flume]

truthfully, I have no idea, I know people have run it on the steam deck though

whether or not the game runs well normally can be argued

[lilac tree]

Ok thanks 🙂

[sharp owl]

at jish you're wrong

if you think hel gun is so good why dont you use a precision rifle

you need headshots anyway

hel gun is bad because im bad at using it

[wraith marsh]

No pen

Pen is busted

[sharp owl]

when you can use it

which is not always

[wraith marsh]

Plus chargers and giants

It is almost always

If you're good at it

[sharp owl]

you wouldn't take prec on chargers

[wraith marsh]

Exactly

[sharp owl]

also why would you not use hel rifle on chargers instead of hel gun

[pine root]

You can aways use pen if you understand sleeper movement or are good with movements

[wraith marsh]

Because the level also has smalls

[pine root]

You are right but the problem is the number of matchups

Hel gun just does more more often

[wraith marsh]

Personally I use rifle for everything

But that's not the argument

[pine root]

Yeah that is because of the montage plays

If you are sweat lord ie me in jish down i take hel gun

[sharp owl]

can you upload a clip of you penetrating a crowd

i wanna see what skill is

with pen

[wraith marsh]

I'm trying to get good ones

[pine root]

Pen montage

[wraith marsh]

But they're ruined by me quickscoping with hel shotgun

[pine root]

XD

[twilit crest]

meta-wise, what specials do people gravitate towards that aren't the burst cannon

[grizzled bison]

the arbalist

[pine root]

PR

[quartz cape]

no

[sharp owl]

high cal does everything

very common and solid option

[pine root]

You guys just don’t want to know the truth

[sharp owl]

penetration is for nerds

[quartz cape]

and your a dumbass

[pine root]

Nerds with hot femboy wife’s

[wraith marsh]

I am a nerd yes

Dunno bout that tho ^

🥶

[sharp owl]

veruta is also great for cutting down the horde

[quartz cape]

still waiting on that part

[sharp owl]

high cal, veruta, combat shotgun all very solid and easy to use

veruta has a lot of recoil but it's not that bad

[merry sluice]

Ya you just burst it in shots of 5-7

[twilit crest]

prob try out high cal next time i play then 👍

[sharp owl]

can't go wrong with high cal

[merry sluice]

High Cal slaps now with the buff.

[sharp owl]

aim center mass and profit

6 rounds of wrist fracturing high impact destruction

its funny to think about how massive the round has to be in a high cal

it deals the same damage as a fuckin railgun that can pierce 5 people

it's basically just a canon

[earnest forge]

"Aim for the center mass"

[sharp owl]

i mean you need not worry about headshots

[earnest forge]

Very much reminiscent of Hunt Caldwell Uppercut, shooting Long Ammo cartridges in a handgun

[wraith marsh]

Nah I wanna see what they load into scattergun

[earnest forge]

The recoil is through the roofs, but the killing power is very enjoyable

[sharp owl]

https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.RsdKZP4iX7HFpiUqrbc6lgHaD4?pid=ImgDet&rs=1

there's a reason the mag holds 2

the high cal is impressive because it doesn't have electromagnets or a large barrel or anything

it's just a desert eagle premium deluxe pro plus

very funny

[earnest forge]

It is like a Revolver for newbies

"Can't aim for the head ? Use this one instead"

(Unless you are fighting enemies without weak points, such as Chargers)

[rough robin]

the high cal is not a revolver for newbies

the high cal can actually kill giant enemies

oneshot chargers

[sharp siren]

revolver its just high skill

[grim leaf]

smg best weapon

[quartz cape]

wrong

[grizzled bison]

⬇️

[grim leaf]

when have you tried the smg?

[quartz cape]

when alt r6 came out

[grim leaf]

then.... what is bad?

[quartz cape]

the damage

[earnest forge]

I hate SMGs, but even then I have to admit that they have buffed this one very significantly

[quartz cape]

its definitely better than it was

but you can also just click on the pdw or carbine and do more damage for free

[grim leaf]

i feel like smg is good/great as long as you have good aim and ammo managment

pdw and carbine can suck my ass

[quartz cape]

you literally get more by doing the same thing on a different weapon

[grim leaf]

which weapons?

[grizzled bison]

All of them

[quartz cape]

pdw and carbine

both similar to smg

but they just get more

[burnt flume]

You can say that about any gun

[grim leaf]

eh, not that good

[burnt flume]

Like every gun is passable if you play well

[grim leaf]

this mans speaking facts

[burnt flume]

Which man where, and can I meet him

[quartz cape]

hel autopistol 💀

[burnt flume]

Autopissstool is an edge case

[grim leaf]

lol, i like a good tease

[grizzled bison]

Goon case

[grim leaf]

smg is good (for me)

i know how to manually burst fire, so smg is like, my go to

[grizzled bison]

Manual burst fire

[sharp siren]

veterans play a different game

[grizzled bison]

I'm the only veteran here anymore

Everyone else gone

😢

[sharp wren]

L

[grim leaf]

keiser?

[grizzled bison]

Keiser alt

Get reported

[grim leaf]

damn son

[sharp wren]

kek

[grim leaf]

ill dm u, is ok

[sharp wren]

I'm more of a bullpup rifle or rifle guy myself

[grim leaf]

noice

[sharp wren]

rifle is just nice for basically anything

[quartz cape]

bullpup somehow manages to be slightly worse than smg

[sharp wren]

rly?

[quartz cape]

scientists are still trying to figure out how

[sharp wren]

doesn't it have better range

[grizzled bison]

i've done the math

[sharp wren]

or is it negligible

[quartz cape]

range is better

[sharp wren]

ammo capacity?

[quartz cape]

but its not usually an important stat

bullpup gets about 60 rounds less than smg if i remember

per ammo pack

[sharp wren]

eh that's kinda to be expected tho

[sharp siren]

we should ban you from gtfo chat

[quartz cape]

do it

[sharp siren]

talking to modmail as we speak

[sharp wren]

is this a bit or did I miss something

[quartz cape]

brother i dont think they're gonna listen to either of us

[grim leaf]

bulpup reload is like over 2 seconds and cant reload cancel, so.....

[sharp wren]

yeah u can

they buffed it

[wispy bluff]

Moutainface is The Bit personified

[sharp wren]

you can cancel the instant you insert a new mag right

[quartz cape]

its hard being the only funny gtfo chatter 😮‍💨

[sharp wren]

L bozo

[sharp siren]

wachu want

[grim leaf]

i asked real keiser and they said for you to shut the f up

[sharp siren]

who the fuck its keiser

[grim leaf]

shrugs

[sharp siren]

i only allocate memory to people i actually give a fuck

[grim leaf]

lol

[sharp siren]

also why not a dm

instead you send a friend request

like a dingus

[grim leaf]

my dms are set to dms only :,c cuz i get a lot of creeps and bots and such

[sharp owl]

imagine getting creeps and bots and such

[grim leaf]

imagine being,,,,, what ever the fuck i am

[sharp owl]

ever since i removed my steam acc from my discord profile i didnt have a single mf dm me

[sharp owl]

a cutie

[grim leaf]

awwww, id let u dm me

[sharp owl]

😏

[grim leaf]

rizz increased by 10

[wraith marsh]

Dunno why ppl put theirs on there

Cuz yeah that is why

[sharp siren]

so its easier to add people

[sharp owl]

one step closer to putting my credit card info in my about me

[sharp siren]

instead of slapping the code into dms

[wraith marsh]

Imagine adding ppl

[sharp siren]

you just click click and done

its like rayalot all over again

we friends on steam

stop sending me the lobby code

goddamit!

[sharp owl]

saw some people link every acc discord allows

like a walking billboard

[sharp owl]

@modern coral bat's unique quality is actually useful though

[modern coral]

Is it, tho?

[sharp owl]

yeah?

you can perma stagger a giant or hybrid

[modern coral]

I think the main thing going for it is it's quite good for melee kiting.

[sharp owl]

(i think? not sure for hybrids)

[modern coral]

You can do that w/ spear, tho, p sure.

Lemme check.

[sharp owl]

i'd be amazed if that was true

[silk blade]

are you sure

[sharp owl]

i am sure about giants

[silk blade]

i feel like if u charge chain on a giant in melee range it ends stun and slaps you

[sharp owl]

charge chain?

oh

idk

point is bat's stagger good

spear does nothing

[pine root]

No you can do it with bat

[sharp owl]

its laet and im tired

[pine root]

This isn’t very important tbh when it comes to gtfo

[silk blade]

damn for real?

idk i feel like i tried once and ended up down 80% of my hp

[modern coral]

@sharp owl https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAFBzcDKRHI

[sharp owl]

i dont mean like that

i mean from the front

[modern coral]

You just full charge?

I'm confused.

[sharp owl]

im also confused im sorry

ignore me

also hey spear did something

that was 3 hits and not 4

that's a break point or something

[modern coral]

It is cool.

I might start playing Spear, so that I can solo giants more.

[silk blade]

you'd wanna play hammer then

[modern coral]

Naw, hammer doesn't do it quite as well.

[silk blade]

spear only does 17.5 on front charged hits...

[modern coral]

It's a bit more finnicky.

Spear is just free.

[silk blade]

hammer does 20 and breaks limbs for heavy stagger

[sharp owl]

yeah and

[silk blade]

idk does it end up being same amount as hammer

[sharp owl]

you're not attacking from the front

[modern coral]

Also, limb HP is 15

not 20

[silk blade]

wild

doesnt that mean you can bat charge and then do a light for heavy stagger

[sharp owl]

yes from behind

[wispy bluff]

Care to explain / teach? I don't know how to get a 2nd back stab reliably

[modern coral]

You move depending on stagger anim.

If they're in a wall, probably bait melee.

[silk blade]

doesnt bat do 12 charged 3 uncharged

so wouldnt that be enough to break limbs from front

[wispy bluff]

They do not combine. It starts at 3 dmg uncharged and then charging progressively increases it to 12, which is the top damage it can deal.

[silk blade]

ah

you have to do 15 in one hit

not 15 total to a limb

[modern coral]

Not sure what you mean, you can do 15 total.

1 hit is just what is most optimal for stunning giants for stealth purposes.

[silk blade]

so i could do a fully charged hit to a giants arm

then do a light smack to it

and the arm would break and send him into heavy stagger

[modern coral]

Yes.

[sharp owl]

yes

[silk blade]

why dont ppl do that

thats so much more reliable than the charge hit spam

cause this would put them into heavy stun guaranteed

which is WAY more than enough time to get in a charged hit to reset the chain

plus you would be able to break all the limbs theoretically?

cause arms + legs + lower and upper torso gets you to 90/120 hp

which would be funny

[modern coral]

I'm confused about the strat that is meant to be employed.

[silk blade]

so you first land a charged hit to the front of an arm

then during the stagger from that, do a light attack on that same arm to break it

and put the giant in heavy stun which is much safer window to charge up another hit to a seperate limb

then you again strike that limb with a light attack to break and enter heavy stun

and if you did this you'd be doing exactly 15 hp to a limb every time which is exactly enough to break it

[modern coral]

I mean, that's very specific to bat, but also it's only good for first hit.

[silk blade]

why only first

[modern coral]

Past that you should just start getting back damage.

[silk blade]

ok bu hear me out

[modern coral]

Because you do less damage than if you full charge w/ back multi

[silk blade]

wouldnt it be way funnier if you broke every breakable on a giant

[modern coral]

It would be if every limb didn't eventually become unbreakable depending on the order you go it.

[silk blade]

wait they have a cap on breakables?

thats lame...

let us have the skeletonized giant

[modern coral]

Limbs are connected to certain other limbs, and so there are weird rules to ordering.

[silk blade]

so do arms legs lower torso upper torso head?

[modern coral]

Hard maybe.

I don't think anyone knows the exact graph it uses, or at least it's not very public rn.

[pine root]

I thought it maxed out at 4

[silk blade]

the armless and legless giant

[modern coral]

Shrug

[mystic moss]

are armless giants scarier than crab walking shooters

[silk blade]

scariest is a headless giant horde

[pine root]

bubble less mom and tank

[sharp siren]

Thats just inmortal 2.0

And actually scary

[modern coral]

Legless shadow giant, tho.

[charred ember]

okay wtf

Bulkhead door can be alarm

and uh..apparently scout can hear gunshot from another room

[dreamy shoal]

yep

2 rooms away, (1 in between) enemies hear nothing

1 room away (directly connected to your room) sound is based off radius and LOS

[burnt flume]

gun shots work on distance, not room space

a room divider takes off a chunk of distance though

I want to say it's 50 metres it makes sound, a room divider takes 20 metres off

[dreamy shoal]

wait, so theoretically you could wake something 2 rooms aways by shooting without hitting it?

[burnt flume]

if it's close enough, yes

should be able to

[dreamy shoal]

I am now slightly more scared

[burnt flume]

if you can wake something up by shooting it, you can shoot it dead

[wraith marsh]

correct

LOS also doesnt matter

[dreamy shoal]

main bulkhead door is about 50% of the time, ususally secondary and overload aren't

[wraith marsh]

theres no correlation

[burnt flume]

more bulkhead doors are scans/free entry than alarms

I can say that for certain

[dreamy shoal]

that's what I thought, I just heard someone say it during a game once

[mystic moss]

can we get a shitty gtfo mythbusters channel going on

[crimson oriole]

stamina deals damage to you directly surely

[wraith marsh]

unironically need it

ppl say and hear some stupid shit

[charred ember]

huh this is kinda pretty hard

[burnt flume]

what are you doing?

[charred ember]

r5b2

[burnt flume]

ah, nobody likes that mission

[wispy bluff]

Give me a reminder

But it triggers me every so slightly

[charred ember]

i just send a screenshot in media

[cold zinc]

hey yall i just finished the training anyone down to do the first mission

[modern coral]

#lfg-beginners

[cold zinc]

heard thank you

[charred ember]

yeah sure post it in lfg and imma join ya

u should follow the format for posting advice there

[cold zinc]

@charred ember uhhhh copy that(what am i posting?

[wispy bluff]

#how-to-matchmake

[charred ember]

LF number of ppl u want in ur team, mission name, lobby code and invite link to vc

[wispy bluff]

That's specifically, and in general:

[wispy bluff]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[cold zinc]

thank you and sorry if i messed that up

[charred ember]

oh woah the fog is toxic

[pine root]

All sleepers are ones or twos

If they are a one they will always long range

[wraith marsh]

I tried to explain that to kaiser jish

its not blocking los with your body

they were just a 2

[pine root]

XD

[wraith marsh]

they didnt get it...

[pine root]

It is hard to understand that sleepers can also be 3s

Shordingers sleeper

[old seal]

anyone wanna play? (im semi new)

[sharp owl]

TURN AROUND BEFORE ITS TOO LATE, THESE PEOPLE ARE UNHINGED

[pine root]

Ignore him come play

[sharp owl]

look at this goofy lil guy

[pine root]

T. Lfg

[pine root]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[gray pilot]

please dont ask to be carried

[silk blade]

Always force the most experienced player to do everything because that's how you become better at the game

[gray pilot]

ksmdsfk

[rose nova]

so based

i see ur becoming uwu

[gray pilot]

im trying ❤️

[rose nova]

good

[pine root]

When do we get Femblade

[gray pilot]

when r8 comes out and they fixed the lights

[charred ember]

just helped some new player learned the game with r1a1 and b1

it was fun!

[rose nova]

:]

nice

[charred ember]

that one area in r1b1 thou

almost lost there

[rose nova]

lol

gtfo is funky

u stop lookin and ur dead and ur like how

[little sluice]

this game is very fun

I just die

[rose nova]

:D

[sharp owl]

be careful of the vets they wont spare you

[sharp siren]

We out there prowling

Hunting for yo ass

[sharp owl]

fkn black dragon mane

[sharp siren]

We out there to getchu

[plush delta]

109775244163459528 looking for 1 more player on vc 06

[wide moss]

When do we get a maid dress set for our prisoners

[sharp owl]

its called valorant

its free

[rose nova]

hello! u can check the LFG channels to share n join lobbies! the instructions are in https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/653623062964731920

just some advice!
always ask to not be carried, make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel
and if you are new be sure to do the tutorial first [Training] and start on rundown 1 since its the simplest one

[light abyss]

So it’s better to just play alone for a bit then meet up with people

[sharp owl]

well no but with the amount of gatekeeping lately
solo or playin with bots will be a better introduction to the game

[rose nova]

depends on if its all newies or what

[wide moss]

No people that play valorant don’t know what grass is

[sharp owl]

neither do the degens asking for maid n skirts in games

[wide moss]

nuh uh

I touch grass daily

[rose nova]

i want my maid dress in gtfo

[wide moss]

See

I’m not the only one

[sharp owl]

yes

degenerates

[rose nova]

yes

[wide moss]

No I just like maid dresses

And it’s next best thing to having female playable characters

[pine root]

Oh no

[sharp owl]

i truly wonder why that fascinates people

i think i can guess

[wide moss]

No I don’t want them for a weird reason

[pine root]

Tbh I wouldnt pay him any mind XD

[wide moss]

I just got reminded of the handsome jack voice line from borderlands

Also I wanna play as a girl because I am one

That’s the reason

[rose nova]

we need cosmetics like comfy sweaters skirts n thighhighs

[wide moss]

We already have thigh highs

The nyxos waders

[rose nova]

true true

i forgor

[light abyss]

Well I’m in the matchmaking lobby idk if anyone up for a match after I smoke this grass I touch quick

[wide moss]

Tried reactor again

Got one test further

Also burst cannon sucks

[balmy moat]

You brought BC in R1C1?

[rose nova]

burst cannons not bad

its just funky to work with

it requires good control n tricks

[balmy moat]

I think Stella just didn't use it correctly

That and it's an okay bring in R1C1, as long as you know how to go about it

[rose nova]

i mean its fair not to lol
first times even if u get its use case its hard to use it

[balmy moat]

The only hard thing to use about it is wave clear

Else it shouldn't be so

[rose nova]

the recoils a fuck

[balmy moat]

It's not a lot lmao

[rose nova]

u need to learn how to crouch with the timing n stuff

[balmy moat]

Even without crouching

[rose nova]

to use it at, medium range

like its not a bad recoil

but its bad for a gun that can shoot from so far

[balmy moat]

You just have skill issue if you're complaining about recoil ngl

[rose nova]

ok

[balmy moat]

Then don't use it so far

It's not long ranged weaponry

At that point that's just using it incorrectly

If you're taking 30-40m crackshots with burst cannon you seriously need to rethink how you use it, or use a different weapon

[rose nova]

no not like sniper shots at 100 meters just, far-ish 10 15 meters
idk maybs im just fucked in imaginin distances

i dont know how to calculate

but well just, recoil talks just depend entirely on the person

some people would say bc recoil sucks without the crouchin

u dont

i say its, controllable but funky

[balmy moat]

Yes, then those people have skill issue

If you really think that's the problem and there exists a solution, why not use it?

Recoil on BC ain't bad compared to other games you may play that have even heavier recoil

[rose nova]

we just, strayed off the original point so bad

[balmy moat]

Stella never responded

[rose nova]

why would em to a convo like this lol

when i see vets talk when i ask a question i zone out

[balmy moat]

Well if they explained what they did perhaps they could get insight

How to use BC, or use a different gun, change of tactics

[wide moss]

Nah I just don’t like it

[wide moss]

Yes

I wanted to try it

[wraith marsh]

I mean

BC isnt the worst pick for it tbh

[balmy moat]

It isn't

Not the worst

Don't think it's a good level to experience it in it's fullest either though

[wide moss]

No it certainly wasn’t terrible

Just I don’t like it

Also I’ve noticed my guns just don’t wanna reload sometimes

[wraith marsh]

hm?

[wide moss]

Imma have to look through settings on that

[rose nova]

do u swap the gun before the number changes?

[wide moss]

No

[wraith marsh]

you cant reload while sprinting

[wide moss]

I manually try to reload and it takes multiple tries before it starts

Only when at zero ammo though

[balmy moat]

Like pressing R?

Or just blank firing?

[wide moss]

Auto reload isn’t a thing right

[wraith marsh]

its a setting

[wide moss]

Where once it hits zero it auto reloads

Yeah imma turn that on

Also blank firing to reload

Also I’ve switched to knife

[grim leaf]

smg best main

[lusty river]

Me and the hel revolver

[rose nova]

me and the normal revolver:

[wide moss]

So is normal revolver just better high cal

[grim leaf]

probably not

[sharp siren]

high skill weapon

more of a versatile weapon

high cal its just more simple

[rose nova]

normal revo does very quick work of smals and its ok but not that good aganits bigs
high cal is more recoil more reload more dmg for bigs and, less skill to hit headshots

both fill up a purpose

there isnt really a better one

[sharp siren]

i mean high its better

[rose nova]

:[

[sharp siren]

xDX

XDXDXDXDX

i love revo

but like

i havent seen revo since like last year

lmao

[rose nova]

q-q i hate to admit it but yeah

[sharp siren]

Its fun to spam tho

super cheap to run

[grim leaf]

but basic smg is like, totally valid right?

[rose nova]

yes

:]

its very automatic its very smg

its nice

[grim leaf]

it also has a very high mag cap, reload speed, and pretty good precision damage

its very very good when shit hits the fan

[sharp siren]

#gtfo-chat message

just dont play too well with it

people will think its magic

[grim leaf]

personal preference is fine, i just prefer smgs in general, and the base smg in this game is pretty lit

[sharp siren]

thats not what i said but ok

[grim leaf]

sorry, maybe i missunderstood 😭

oh shit i did missunderstand, god damn

smg is magic, i stand by it

[wraith marsh]

smg does literally nothing special unlike all the other standout mains

[rose nova]

smg literally is not meta like the meta weapons that are meta but not this meta metan't

[im jokin i get what u mean]

[grim leaf]

smg does nothing special, i agree, it can just kill things that are in your face, for a long time, and reload quickly, so, its pretty much shit

[wraith marsh]

yeah pretty much

you do know if you want to be quirky you can just be a bat user right

[north jackal]

So apparently kaisers ban is getting extended cuz yall think hes using an alt

[thick temple]

i heard it was perma before?
though i never knew what the source on that was

[north jackal]

Kaiser said himself its not a permaban

[grim leaf]

da fuk

keiser was banned!?!??!?

[north jackal]

Yea

[grim leaf]

but i showed him my gf :,c

[north jackal]

This is so sad guys

[grim leaf]

ikr

[charred ember]

feel like everytime i play r1b1 theres more giants

[grim leaf]

i mean, that might be true

[unreal crystal]

LOL

[earnest forge]

[unreal crystal]

i guess it is a pretty subjective topic

[unreal crystal]

its a very weird hill to die on tbh

my thought process is why would i want to kill things in my face when i can kill them before they get there

[wraith marsh]

sounds like something special, cant have that here

[charred ember]

fuck it, next time im doing r1b1, im bringing burst cannon

i remember voidspace told me i can kill scout with it also

[rough robin]

so you can see them die

clearer

[modern coral]

Imo, that's not a huge deal if you have long range options.

If you use something else and then switch to SMG, it fits pretty well.

[unreal crystal]

ok but ray they are saying smg is the best

[modern coral]

o

It's just okay.

Probably underrated, too, tbf.

[unreal crystal]

i dont think the 0.9 precision damage is a good argument point

smg does not hold a candle to hel revo

smg is just an ok weapon

[modern coral]

Ehhh, it has clear advantages, it's just not OP.

Its closest comparison is Carbine, imo.

They both want to act as back-up in similar situations, but carbine is both better and more versatile.

PDW is a close neighbor too, I suppose, and it actually has a flashlight (+thermal, obv).

[rough robin]

PDW flashlight is so based.

what I wouldn't give to have that one on bullpup

[charred ember]

yeah and u can panic hipfire it too

[serene jewel]

does the game still load in the intro cutscene if you don't skip it

the decompression cutscene

[analog flicker]

[junior latch]

Sry i havent played games where a gun goes up like that LOL

Exception being games that intentionally makes it trash and unfun

[quartz cape]

what about gtfo
i think the burst cannon in that game does that

[unreal crystal]

they should add that!

The game would go VIRAL

[little ridge]

Red Orchestra 2 MGs if you dont use bipods

Which is unironically how an MG would work if you dont bipod it and try to hipfire bursts

Especially ww2 stuff like mg42s I guess

[balmy moat]

Rainbow 6 Siege can get pretty bad

[wispy bluff]

Day of Defeat.

If you fired any full auto from a running stance - it would go up. Especially lmgs which would send your camera to the skies.

[little ridge]

Yes that too had crazy recoil on some stuff I think. It has been a looong time.

[wispy bluff]

In turn it encouraged taking aiming stances: crouching, going prone, and LMG users had to use the bipods to stabilise the thing.

The game probably didn't aged too well, but it had a charm.

Someone should make a horror game like that... Maybe even coop...

[green rivet]

It helped me beat r2e1

[late karma]

tarkov stock sa-58 will kick your ass

[sharp owl]

Ww3 lmgs without bipod

[rose nova]

for the context of this game bc is funky

[sharp siren]

50 cal semi auto pump

Stock folded svd

Pre rework recoil guns

😭😭😭

[honest fern]

What is good gun to use with the high cal

[sharp siren]

anything really

[rose nova]

high cal being such a flexible gun, there isnt really anythin wrong to like go with it, u could chose an automatic to have more ammo and bting highcal for bigs

u could have dmr or somethin for the range high cal doesnt have

the only gun i dont see it being super funky with its like, sawed off, cause the dmg values are a bit too much so its a lot of reloads ad short range but, i dont think would b terrible either

[honest fern]

I usually run the crowd clearer since my friend usually takes care of big guys

The dmr seems fun

[sharp siren]

what

[rose nova]

idk like, two 30 dmg guns?

but

maybs is just me

[sharp siren]

you have like 9 one shots total

with saw off and high cal

saw goes pairs really good with high cal

[rose nova]

idk, i feel like if i wanted like 8 30dmg short range shots, i just would pick the normal shottie but, thats just me

[honest fern]

My problem is that I have to have so much down time and there is so much monsters

I fail my team if I let them get overrun

[sharp siren]

but hes talking about a primary bobito

and what pairs well with it

saw off goes hard

🗣️

[honest fern]

But not ammo effective isn’t it

[rose nova]

q-q no me digas bobito

[honest fern]

I need more shots that kill

Fast

[sharp siren]

i mean if your team gets overrun to a couple of sleepers then they need to pull themselves up

[honest fern]

Someone told me to use either of the data

Dmr*

[honest fern]

R1c1

[rose nova]

its not a bad weapon

also tbh high cal is also a gun for like bigs and smalls not just for smalls

[sharp siren]

pls tell me your not play with 3 bots

[rose nova]

its not like crowd control

[sharp siren]

ill cry and leave this conversation

[honest fern]

I just have normal friends

[sharp siren]

good

[honest fern]

We like to play on weekends

[sharp siren]

you holding at bridge?

or at the reactor?

[honest fern]

We try but it falls apart quick

Where do we put sentry’s

When we put them on the bridge

The sleepers spawn ahead of them???

[sharp siren]

auto sentry,burst or sniper?

[honest fern]

Either that on somehow a burst sentry never aggros on a passin hoard

[sharp siren]

if it never agroes that means you put it in the wrong place where it cannot do anything

[honest fern]

https://tenor.com/view/gojo-gif-425053564746124910

[rose nova]

gtfo gif attempt :3

[sharp siren]

you wanna hold at bridge
bring 1 bio 3 sniper sentry

the one who has the best aim brings a sniper and a dmr (hes the one that will stay back and go to input the codes)

[honest fern]

Ah

[sharp siren]

the rest of you just sit right next to the yellow truck

and just point and click until your done with the reactor

slap sentries down depending on your needs

[rose nova]

3 sniper sentry?

[sharp siren]

i recommend only slapping 1 sniper sentry down for the first couple of waves

and just shoot

[honest fern]

We have no promblem aiming from medium range or short they are cs players

[sharp siren]

you will have a lot of downtime between each wave

cs doesnt translate here

[honest fern]

It does generally doesn’t it

[sharp siren]

it really doenst

skill issue

[honest fern]

The gunplay is same basics

[sharp siren]

nah im kidding

[honest fern]

Just ads more often

[sharp siren]

you say gunplay its basics but they get overwhelmed

like i say its not cs

but what you want

its too keep the biotracker pings up

for those sniper sentries to get theyre buff

and the guy with the sniper can easily just snipe the bigs while doing codes

[honest fern]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/808557709422231562/907126154509561876/Fa5C2k8GB1c.gif

[rose nova]

i usually go 2 bursts sentries one sniper i never tried 3 sniper sentries
i dont doubt it works well tho

i should try it

[sharp siren]

if you have a good bio its good

[rose nova]

the only time i brought like 2 sniper sentries was cause one dude had a ton of sentry cpu speed so they ate every tool refill

[sharp siren]

im talking boosterless

[rose nova]

and i just used mine when their ran out

[rose nova]

ik ik

im just sayin the one time i did it ksmdkm

it wasnt good either

like a sniper sentry with those boosters will just eat up too much

[sharp siren]

well duh

[rose nova]

qwq

smh im just tellin funny story

[sharp siren]

unless they struggle so much at holding that not even the sentries can hold then yeah

burst

but you thin the wave so much with sniper sentries

and jusut kills the giants too

if your sniper guy sucks

[charred ember]

i pretty sure theres a giant that do a L shape tongue attack to hit me when i behind a corner

[rose nova]

idk i feel like havin a sniper with sniper sentries is a bit funky, cause its just gonna cut their head really fast

but

my skill issue

for not being able to shoot well unless they r so close

[sharp siren]

.

[rose nova]

:D

[sharp siren]

he still had los of you

its just los shennanigangs

[charred ember]

what is los

[sharp siren]

line of sight

[charred ember]

oh

i did clutch it thou

half of the team went down but manage to take out the giant horde with scattergun

[sharp siren]

supa hot

[silk blade]

is los just the infinite length column part of the tongue hitbox

is it

cause how did it hit him around a corner otherwise

if hes past the corner isnt that out of line of sight

[pine root]

Well two things remember in video games latency exists and sometimes they still have los either through an interesting object or something

[silk blade]

i see

[pine root]

#gtfo-media message

See this for an example

[silk blade]

thats cruel

[pine root]

It actually isn’t as bad as it looks but it is funny as anything

[quartz cape]

still waiting for the sleeper spin attack

[silk blade]

im still waiting on the knife throwing attack

lose your melee till you go pick it up again

spear also gets it cause spear is bad

[quartz cape]

I second this

I too would like to throw my melee away if it is bad

[pine root]

XDDDDD

[quartz cape]

dont laugh im serious

[lusty river]

I like to honk the tank until it aggros on me and slaps me silly

[serene jewel]

how much charge do you need to headshot strikers/shooters with the hammer

[little ridge]

occiput?

or front?

occiput you can onetap shooters (no charge)

and need very very little for strikers

[lusty river]

I just do more than half charge and they fall

[rose nova]

its just a thing of feel, u gotta just practice it to know

[serene jewel]

probably front headshot, cause I'm trying to be efficient with multikills

like, it's not a knife but it's good enough right

[little ridge]

Not to be annoying but if so

You should consider positioning so that one of them faces the other way if possible

so you can full/half charge the front one and will have enough time to occi the other

[serene jewel]

ah so you can just almost one tap it after the irst kill

[little ridge]

let's say 2 strikers close to each other

1 facing you 1 facing the other way

[serene jewel]

ye ye

[little ridge]

ok

[serene jewel]

one more

what's the best sidearm for the sniper lmao

all-rounder

[burnt flume]

Probably hel revo, because it's always hel revo

Or carbine is the other standout pick

[rose nova]

maybs like an, smg or a carbine

[little ridge]

I'd say it's a bit situational but perhaps carbine?

or hel revo, yes

[serene jewel]

yeah carbine works well, I'm trying hel revo now

[lusty river]

You can do hel shotgun too, but I would recommend testing diff weapons to see what you’re comfortable with

[little ridge]

I guess you said all rounder so

[rose nova]

it g pew pew

[burnt flume]

It's funny because the question is pretty much just what the best main weapon is

[serene jewel]

should work out better here cause it's R1C1

[little ridge]

it's either hel revo or carbine

[serene jewel]

Hel shotgun just seems like it lacks the range and doesn't fit with sniper

[rose nova]

for sniper i think its a bit too funky, long reload and not really for individual enemies

also on r1c1

danger

[crude bay]

Both are good , can do good in combo but you might be a bit map dependent then

[rose nova]

hel shottie its a wonderful gun but in this settin and secondary weapon i wouldnt go for it

[crude bay]

I dont really agree

[lusty river]

Situational, I was thinking of R5D1. It’s a decent loadout on that level

[crude bay]

There was a change with Heavy AR that did a change like that but that was fine ended up being very nice

Hell Shotgun as a second weapon is not the best idea , unless you buff it crazy

[rose nova]

noo

im not talkin of makin hel shottie a sec

[crude bay]

My bad then

[rose nova]

im talkin of takin hel shottie with that sec, with the sniper

[crude bay]

Well

[rose nova]

mayb mayb, but, situational i would say

[crude bay]

Well iz might be good , since you need a lot of ammo for both and If you know how to use both well there should be no issue

[rose nova]

yeah idk snipers already a bit like situational
but i guess its not that bad as long as u have good control of both

and a team to back u up on the reloads of hel shottie

well a team, two bots work enough

or one

[lusty river]

Sniper is always good, I just don’t use it because I miss the shots 🤣

[rose nova]

snipers an ok gun but not necessary for every level
i dont use it for the same reason tho lmao

the skill issue hits hard

[crude bay]

Oof size BIG

[lusty river]

I use the hel rifle tho, although it doesn’t have the same precision multi as sniper so can’t really one shot giants with that 😭

[rose nova]

yeah its a way more, bodyshot kind of weapon
i usually go for shotties, burst cannon scattergun, anythin i dont need headshots on

the only weapon i do hit precision is normal revolver

[lusty river]

I have never tried the normal revolver and I really should

Same with the burst rifle; a forgotten main weapon

[rose nova]

:[ normal revo is cool

[modern coral]

Carbine never wins, imo.

[junior latch]

Carbine is easier tbf

[modern coral]

It's very stupid, but not cracked.

[wraith marsh]

it wins on mag size

[junior latch]

not cracked

Disagree on that one

[pine root]

Here we go again

[junior latch]

[modern coral]

Being cracked and being braindead are mutually exclusive, and carbine is braindead.

[junior latch]

they arent mutually exclusive ?

huh

[pine root]

Interesting argument

Let see where it goes

[junior latch]

being cracked =/= being braindead

but being cracked doesnt mean you cant be braindead

[wraith marsh]

I still dont feel like carbine is actually easier to use

[junior latch]

thats not even an argument to be had. Thats just a fact

[wraith marsh]

it just makes you feel less bad about missing

[pine root]

If I am crack I can be brain dead

[modern coral]

Being cracked suggests there's potential for high skill investment.

[wraith marsh]

because youre firing 4x the amount of shit

[modern coral]

Carbine has very little skill expression, it just does damage.

[wraith marsh]

its still 2-3 bursts vs 2-3 shots

[pine root]

I agree that hel rev has crazy skill expression

[junior latch]

Idk, the bullets feel like 5 times the size, more per mag. Naturally quick reload (no reload cancel reliant) and insanely good hipfire

[junior latch]

No

[modern coral]

Yes

[wraith marsh]

oh reload cancel is fair

[junior latch]

like no

[wraith marsh]

forgot that counts as skill

[junior latch]

taking another example

[modern coral]

If you want to say something is strong, you just say it's strong, not "cracked"

BC and HEL Gun are cracked

[wraith marsh]

hel revo hipfire is fine imo

[finite wharf]

random question for people. if i want to join a lfg do i just click the join voice channel from the post?

[junior latch]

you mean brigitte in overwatch wasnt cracked on release? That was a braindead hero times 10

[pine root]

Sniper is cracked scatter is brain dead

Got it

[modern coral]

Not really cracked, no.

[junior latch]

nvm

Your definition is like that

not the general one

[pine root]

Yeah but the idea

[modern coral]

If people could pull off some wild shit w/ the character, maybe.

[wraith marsh]

so

cracked implies both strong and high ceiling?

[pine root]

Yeah

[crude bay]

Yup click on a map you want in any LFG post you see if its the map you need

[finite wharf]

cool thanks

[modern coral]

Yes, either high ceiling or a high skill investment in general.

Although I guess that implies high ceiling either way

[wraith marsh]

so high floor high ceiling

[junior latch]

Its fine in short range. Carbine hipfire is better than some weapons scoped at like 10 meters

[junior latch]

THEY COULD???

[modern coral]

Is wild shit wild shit, though, or is it just OP shit?

[pine root]

Can something be brain dead with a high skill ceiling

[wraith marsh]

preference tbh

[modern coral]

Like, we talking out-positing yourself and then 1v5ing w/ little effort, or are people abusing the mechanics in crazy ways?

[wraith marsh]

I would argue hel rifle

[junior latch]

tbh, this is just ray having his take on how to define „cracked“

when the term is often used to just describe someone or something being absolutely overpowered

[wraith marsh]

ye I agree eva

[junior latch]

cracked is similarly used to broken

[wraith marsh]

I normally specify "when used well" alongside some synonym to strong

cracked being one of those

[modern coral]

But "cracked" is often used to denote skill.

I.e. that player is cracked.

[pine root]

Well Ray could be on to something about connotations of the word crack but this is semantics

[wraith marsh]

cracked when referring to players yea

not items in a game

[junior latch]

Broken works the same, yet that is taken differently

[crude bay]

OG scattegun whould not agree

[junior latch]

for players cracked is used like that. For characters/items not as much

[wraith marsh]

im only here cuz using that terminology is confusing

which is exactly how we got here

[modern coral]

I mean, I think the true answer is that both meanings are valid.

[wraith marsh]

so its semantics

[junior latch]

Obviously yes

[modern coral]

I'm just preferring one of them.

[wraith marsh]

but I think its worth discussing

[modern coral]

When I say that Carbine is not cracked

[pine root]

It is cool semantics today

[junior latch]

ray is basically saying

Carbine is incredibly strong, but doesnt have a high skill ceiling

Or rather, it doesnt get a lot better with skill like say hel revo does

[pine root]

Yeah which I am inclined to agree

[modern coral]

I think that's the main thing that holds back its power level, specifically, though.

[junior latch]

eh

it just means theres less to peak on

[modern coral]

They'd have to give it some insane buffs to make it competitive with HEL Revo or HEL Shotty in that regard, because the peaks for cracked weapons are a fair bit above the peaks for braindead weapons rn.

[junior latch]

High cal is „similar“

gun has basically no skill ceiling like hel gun/bc do

but its way easier to get value with

difference imo that carbine is better in comparision

[wraith marsh]

I mean

arent we just answering 2 different questions

[serene jewel]

alright hel revolver worked out great

[wraith marsh]

why does it matter

they ask for best gun you say hel revo

[modern coral]

Rift for Mains is probably less than rift for Specials, yeah.

[wraith marsh]

they ask for easiest to use for its strength

[serene jewel]

but I did have a booster that made me able to one shot small guys so that probably helped a lot

[wraith marsh]

you say carbine

[modern coral]

But BC is also carrying that rift.

[serene jewel]

can the carbine one burst something with a damage boost

or will it always be double taps

[wraith marsh]

as client probably but gl

[junior latch]

tbf if they ask what fits best its an interpretation thing

hel revo theoretically does

but they probably wont be good enough to abuse it (a lot of them wont even reload cancel ever)

but if they want smth that they can actually use like that then its carbine

Its why i basically never recommend hel gun

Beginners will die

[silk blade]

carbine is insane...

[wraith marsh]

your best chance is over 30%

[serene jewel]

sad

[modern coral]

I do think it's kind of funny that the main complaints about Carbine seem to be stem from either weapon feel or from the fact that people expect too much out of their Main weapon.

[silk blade]

carbine has good damage, low recoil, low spread, lots of ammo, fast reload etc

[pine root]

Yeah but carbine maxes out

[silk blade]

theres no weakness

[wraith marsh]

thats not the discussion rn

[pine root]

Hel rev is crazy in pen and processing power

[junior latch]

Step 1. ignore boosters
Step 2. realise guns dont need to 1 tap as a main
Step 3. realize sawed off does and become sawed off enjoyer

[wraith marsh]

but yeah sure

[serene jewel]

carbine seems great, I just don't like not being able to one burst small sleepers even with full headshot

[wraith marsh]

facts

[silk blade]

sawed off is also good

[wraith marsh]

well its not even close to 1 bursting rn

so idk why you dont like it

[modern coral]

He literally said the thing that I just said.

[junior latch]

yup

[modern coral]

It's fucking hilarious.

Carbine is just too good for bad players.

[junior latch]

theres legit only 2 mains that 1 taps on headshot

Sawed off and DTR

[serene jewel]

or as I mentioned hel revo with dmg boost

[pine root]

Hel shot gun

[wraith marsh]

boosters dont count

[junior latch]

Thats illegal btw

[wraith marsh]

and werent stated anyways

[junior latch]

youll be hunted across the country now

[silk blade]

why is hel revolver even liked

the pierce is cool

but idk

[junior latch]

anyway boosters dont count

[serene jewel]

I mean it's why I asked lol

[junior latch]

Busted af?

[modern coral]

Boosters are p cringe, except for 16 damage Revo.

[silk blade]

it has good ammo economy or w/e

[junior latch]

generally, not client bs

[wraith marsh]

it has the same shit as carbine

but it has pierce

[silk blade]

but i rarely find myself going "shit man i have no ammo i ran out!"

[wraith marsh]

• some ppl prefer semis

aka a lot of ppl

[silk blade]

so idk if the whole piercing saves you ammo thing is too impressive

[junior latch]

actually. Can hel shotty technically 1 tap on host?

[wraith marsh]

im checking rn eva

[silk blade]

i think so

[modern coral]

It's like you take DMR, buff it in almost every way, and then give it 1 pen.

[wraith marsh]

aww

[pine root]

It isn’t just ammo

[wraith marsh]

its so close

[silk blade]

but it has less range than dmr

[wraith marsh]

0.5 off roughly

[junior latch]

Piercing is more about wrecking waves lol

You DOUBLE dmg output

[wraith marsh]

3 + 5 is 19.5 ish

[pine root]

It is clear speed and stagger and coward control

[silk blade]

ok thats fair

but id just use hel shotgun

[junior latch]

Effecgive range is incredibly high still and easily enough for 90% of all encounters

[silk blade]

if my goal was to lock waves i'd use the hel shotgun

[wraith marsh]

it doesnt lose its breakpoints on most shit till really high range

so its kinda irrelevant

[silk blade]

its 80 max range which i admit is p high

[junior latch]

The 3rd best main.

Hel revo has reload speed and range over it (also consistency)

[silk blade]

idk i can see why it has some appeal i guess

[modern coral]

It's just an extremely well-rounded Main, the best category of Main (semi-auto), and it gets pen on top.

[silk blade]

i just feel its played up a lot

its definitely incredible compared to some guns

[pine root]

Hel shoty gun has some appeal if you don’t have any

[silk blade]

but idk if it is so far above carbine/hel shotgun

[wraith marsh]

nobody every said it was

[modern coral]

You can solo reactor waves w/ almost just HEL Revo.

[silk blade]

ppl kinda treat it that way

[wraith marsh]

idk man you hear way more about carbine in this server than hel revo

[pine root]

It is.

[silk blade]

see?

[wraith marsh]

jish I hate you

[modern coral]

It's a very common strategy for solo reactor players to take HEL Revo + Sniper.

[grizzled bison]

I have never seen a single person use carbine

[modern coral]

Because HEL Revo can carry any loadout.

[grizzled bison]

Oops

[silk blade]

carbine is mf boring

[junior latch]

Tbh thats cuz all vets know its busted

[grizzled bison]

Boring gun

[silk blade]

carbine is good even if you're bad

helo revo is good only if you dont suck

[wraith marsh]

all the new ppl come in, get recommended carbine, and then just gush about it every chance they get after they try it

[silk blade]

good but requires skill makes it less strong than good and doesnt require skill

[wraith marsh]

except sarr

they like smg fsr