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late karma
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then if i can't reach first terminal fast i pull second room

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if it is not the second terminal i tend to just shoot last room too

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i usually get it in 2 cycles even if it is öast terminal

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i find this the fastest and safest way for myself

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i only do 2b2 if i know the people in front can defend properly

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in public lobby that is usually not the case

mint light
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R4E1 Precision Rifle. No joke. only level I take that garbage

late karma
trim sail
mint light
late karma
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i wouldn't want pr for code hunt

mint light
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Shoot all shadow scouts, ez pz gg

late karma
mint light
mint light
late karma
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pdw sniper is the same thing for ss but it works on any range and you can take out big shadows and big striker and hybrids and big shooters with just one shot

mint light
mint light
late karma
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pdw is not bad against smalls

mint light
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imo

late karma
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not really

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it is good on close range

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and it can reload very fast

mint light
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it's horrendous

late karma
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I would prefer a Hel revolver Hel shotgun or carbine over it but man with sniper as secondary it just gets busted

mint light
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I prefer taking a knife to a tank than a pdw to a striker

late karma
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i guess it is just personal preferance

trim sail
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if the weapon is good with your own style, then just use it

late karma
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doesn't really matter what we take as long as we stay winning

mint light
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Immediatly

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no 2nd chances

late karma
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fuck spear man

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they said you can sprint but it is only fast walking

trim sail
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man...

latent palm
trim sail
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i thought i'm the only one discriminating against spear

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cuz that weapon sucks as f*ck

late karma
mint light
trim sail
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newbies or idiots be like "i love using spear"

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5 minutes later wiped out by 1 single giant because of not enough damage

rustic hinge
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spear is for meming pretty much

trim sail
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but honestly

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you can use spear, it's fine

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as long as you know how to hit the weak spot

late karma
trim sail
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cuz that's what the spear is good at

late karma
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the range is good against giants

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but wait until you wake up more then 2 sleepers

trim sail
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just charge and bonk

late karma
rustic hinge
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even though hammer is the most simple thing

blissful dome
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its not that hard to kill multiple with spear

trim sail
blissful dome
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just harder

late karma
blissful dome
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i like using spear cause it has a higher range against flyers

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:D

rustic hinge
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well thats one way to use it i guess lmao

blissful dome
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:D

late karma
blissful dome
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yea but

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i want to hit them

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with my spear

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:D

trim sail
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like i said, the spear is not bad 100%. Just make sure when you are using the spear, i beg you to hit the WEAK SPOT.

late karma
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i guess you found a use for spear

blissful dome
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:D

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i mean

trim sail
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i once joined a team on r4d2

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2 guys using spear

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and bbc wiped out the entire team in 1 seconds

rustic hinge
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oh noooo

trim sail
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oops

blissful dome
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spear can basically headshot one tap regs only slightly slower than knfie

blissful dome
rustic hinge
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that mission is no place for spear

trim sail
blissful dome
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would hammer really have helped

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would it?

vagrant veldt
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No.

blissful dome
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yea

trim sail
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i'm talking about the bbc killing with melee

blissful dome
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?

rustic hinge
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forgot where the chargers are on that mission

vagrant veldt
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If it is up and charging you, better be loud already.

blissful dome
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yea

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if its charging you

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a hammer wont really help

rustic hinge
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its been several months

vagrant veldt
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If you snuck up and melee it, keep it staggered.

ionic pollen
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After ~240 hours i yesterday learned that hammer kills strikers anywhere on full charge

blissful dome
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...

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how is this new information

ionic pollen
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It is for me

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Or was

blissful dome
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fair

trim sail
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...

blissful dome
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did you never use it/

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wh

trim sail
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what surprised me is it took you 240 hrs

blissful dome
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lmao

balmy moat
blissful dome
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wait

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it needs a whole half for head kill

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jesus

vestal crystal
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...

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how is this new information

trim sail
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i found another usefull information

balmy moat
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^

ionic pollen
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I did of course, but figured its just the full run and charge that everyone is so in love with

trim sail
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hammer full charge can't 1 shot giant

blissful dome
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WOW

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no way

coarse grail
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a full charge hammer hit is enough to break a giants limb

vagrant veldt
balmy moat
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A half charge hammer hit breaks limbs

blissful dome
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wait

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oh

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ive been overcharging

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m

trim sail
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i should refund this game

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my knowledge is completely ruined

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cya

coarse grail
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but I'd have to look up the maths

rustic hinge
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i still do full charge anyways

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damage go brr

balmy moat
blissful dome
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ok tbf

balmy moat
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Half charge breaks limbs

blissful dome
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spear has a .1 shorter charge time 😎 so different

trim sail
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huge

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such

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WOW

vestal crystal
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someone posted a clip of them not getting a limb break at around half

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from the back

blissful dome
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hm

vestal crystal
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i forget who it was from

balmy moat
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Might be more a little more than half

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That or it just staggers

vestal crystal
trim sail
blissful dome
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ah

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well

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thats

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not as good then

coarse grail
blissful dome
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my god i like how they saw the limb not break and proceeded to MOVE CLOSER

balmy moat
late karma
blissful dome
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ah yes

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giant

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hit me

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do it

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i dare you

trim sail
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imagine

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saying the spear is bad

late karma
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we were all at that point

trim sail
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then the giant pull out

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another big ass spear

vestal crystal
late karma
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i remember it took me around 100h to realise i have to break a limp and not just hit him

ionic pollen
blissful dome
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how did you clear giants before

late karma
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just going for his back

blissful dome
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ah

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well

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i guess that works

late karma
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i full charged or 80% charges his back

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was usually a slow stagger and mate broke limb after

blissful dome
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wait is melee charging linear or exponential in damage

late karma
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i think damage is linear

blissful dome
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m

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well

ionic pollen
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With my newfound knowledge i kinda get what this whole hammer = best thing is about

blissful dome
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wait are you sure hammer needs a whole half charge to headshot strikers?

late karma
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but stuff like enviorment damage is either like uncharged or 75% charged

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there is no betweeb

blissful dome
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cause

balmy moat
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Back of head

blissful dome
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half

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half charge

balmy moat
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Yes

blissful dome
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cause spear only needs 4.4 damage

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to front of head

blissful dome
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hm

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1 pres mult

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ok

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3 head mult

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oh

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huh

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so it is exponential

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it should only need ~6.67 damage to headshot

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for back of head spear needs to "charge"

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honestly i mean missing head with spear unless its like a bunch of fog is hard

vestal crystal
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iirc someone explaining it said its not linear

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otherwise hammer going from 4-20 wouldnt need more than half charge to kill to the head

blissful dome
late karma
blissful dome
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rip

vestal crystal
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w/e, you still wouldnt need more than half charge if it was linear

blissful dome
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yea

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it should only be 6.67

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for a head kill

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and 3.33 for occu

vestal crystal
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the formula is on the wiki

balmy moat
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It's also in the weapons spreadsheet

blissful dome
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could i borrow it

vestal crystal
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{\displaystyle {\text{Damage}}=\left({\text{Charged Damage}}-{\text{Light Damage}}\right)\cdot x^{3}+{\text{Light Damage}}}

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oh god

balmy moat
vestal crystal
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damage = (charged damage - light damage) * x^3 + light damage

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so hammer at half charge = (20-3) * 0.5^3 + 3

blissful dome
blissful dome
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although tbf

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ive gotten finiky limbs before

coarse grail
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So seems like with full back damage multi its about 65% charge

blissful dome
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if i try to hit a leg on the other side sometimes it just doesnt do

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anything

coarse grail
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for 7.6 damage

blissful dome
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it should

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try testing it idk

coarse grail
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its about what I go for when soloing giants

trim sail
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katana as melee, when...

coarse grail
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it seems accurate enough

balmy moat
blissful dome
trim sail
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i wanna fight the sleepers as a samurai

blissful dome
blissful dome
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they should add a bow as a melee :D

trim sail
blissful dome
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?

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why golden

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just a bow

trim sail
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increase fighting spirit ?

ionic pollen
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Chainsaw would be chad

trim sail
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why wouldn't you want a shiny, golden weapon...

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feels good...

balmy moat
ionic pollen
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That's definitely the drawback

blissful dome
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ah yes

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silent ranged

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loud melee

trim sail
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chainsaw goes br br on the tank ?

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COOL

ionic pollen
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That would be so satisfying

trim sail
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how should we fight the tank ?

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just cut off his legs with the chainsaw

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ez

coarse grail
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put him face down

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if he falls face up thats gg

junior latch
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Honestly carbine hipfire just seems better to me

But thats just because carbine generally has like no recoil

blissful dome
balmy moat
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For what PDW is worth, being insanely accurate without ADS at full auto is way more impressive

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So title goes to PDW

blissful dome
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does it make it better/

balmy moat
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Ideally you don't use PDW for thermals unless you absolutely have to

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If you get too pent up with thermals you're handcapping yourself

coarse grail
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PDW has largest gap between hipfire and scoped use probs, but doesn't mean its better hipfire than carbine

balmy moat
blissful dome
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also i mean pdw fires slower than carbine technically

balmy moat
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Title does not mean better

blissful dome
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so really

coarse grail
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ah so it means what I said?

blissful dome
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its more impressive of carbine

balmy moat
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Yes

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It is more impressive

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Better?

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Different story

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Recoil does come into effect

junior latch
blissful dome
blissful dome
balmy moat
blissful dome
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accounting for time between bursts

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carbine has like

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1170

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but pdw only has 1000

balmy moat
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Does it really

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Lmao

coarse grail
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1170 RPM uhh

blissful dome
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i mean

coarse grail
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thats quite a lot

blissful dome
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spear needs

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.54 seconds to headshot

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knife needs .5 for full charge

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for exact headshot im not sure

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what are the knifes actual stats

coarse grail
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I guess I can see it actually

blissful dome
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2-5?

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5.5?

coarse grail
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charged is 5.5

blissful dome
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wait yea so

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wait

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im tripping

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its not .54 for spear

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my god

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i can do this

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well

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its around 1 second

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slightly lower

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hm

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yea

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its slightly slower

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yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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thats how it works

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:D

balmy moat
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Lol

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Spear slow

blissful dome
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lmao

balmy moat
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This is why hammer >

blissful dome
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honestly fair

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but i mean

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its really funny to just

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stand infront of 3 sleepers

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not move

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and headshot all of them

balmy moat
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You can do the same thing with hammer

blissful dome
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but you have to be closer

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:C

balmy moat
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But you can do it faster

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And more funny

blissful dome
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no

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its around the same

junior latch
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And if you mess up you stagger

blissful dome
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fair

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just aim :D

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trust

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this is sensible

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believe

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oh

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huh

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hel autopistol only has 1040 rpm?

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what

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well

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eh

balmy moat
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Spear you can't

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Very funny

blissful dome
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counterpoint

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funny animation time

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swipe spear across screen

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get headshot somehow

coarse grail
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the spear bonk

balmy moat
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You can do 360s with any weapon tho

blissful dome
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spwer is a lot longer

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ah yes

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hel autopistol has a falloff range of 55 meters

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the damage is truly so useful

junior latch
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max

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not starting

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lol

blissful dome
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yea

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its just funny

junior latch
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and stagger dmg works off of base dmg, so idk what you on

balmy moat
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@junior latch When we running R6D1 again

blissful dome
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choke mod has a higher rpm than hel autopistol

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:D

junior latch
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@balmy moat id guess friday if we beat brazil skip on thursday

Otherwise next week, im pretty booked this week somehow

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Definetly wanna do it more tho

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its fun

blissful dome
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oh yea

balmy moat
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We have a time we wanna beat

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We're close

earnest pivot
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Is anyone actually playing rn? In matchmaking ques for 10 min, no lobby what so ever....

blissful dome
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just a slight question

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uh

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does kraken happen to have a glitch

coarse grail
balmy moat
coarse grail
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.t lfg

foggy plankBOT
blissful dome
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where it just insta dies

junior latch
junior latch
blissful dome
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the only ever in game mm ive ever done was

junior latch
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at least nothing known

blissful dome
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r7a1

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they kept shooting me

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normal

blissful dome
junior latch
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99% someone cheated

blissful dome
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i just got it

earnest pivot
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Why In game matchmaking doesnt work?

blissful dome
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huh

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interesting

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i mean

balmy moat
blissful dome
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it is possible

balmy moat
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The problem is that no one uses it

blissful dome
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i just dont think so

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cause it was on like

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the 3rd

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stage

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idk

junior latch
coarse grail
earnest pivot
balmy moat
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Because that is what everyone prefers

blissful dome
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:D

balmy moat
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Easy communication via VC

blissful dome
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in game vc :D

balmy moat
blissful dome
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i know

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its almost like..

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nvmd

vestal crystal
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lfg dead right now too though

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💀

balmy moat
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@earnest pivot You should prbably post an LFG when people are actually on

blissful dome
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well

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lmaooooo

balmy moat
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It's quite late/early for North Americans

blissful dome
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yes

balmy moat
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Obviously there are other regions

blissful dome
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i can confirm

junior latch
earnest pivot
balmy moat
blissful dome
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?

junior latch
blissful dome
coarse grail
blissful dome
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what does that even mean

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i need an explanation

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the what

balmy moat
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This server invite link is in the game as a button

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Probably what he meant

blissful dome
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oh

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ah

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wait why does

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the veruta have burst rof listed

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?

vagrant veldt
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60rnd burst.

blissful dome
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myes

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ofc

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tyty

strong inlet
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who will play? I'm without a microphone

blissful dome
coarse grail
sharp owl
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Charging damage is exponential not linear

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Goes up cubed

sharp owl
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most of your damage is earned during the end of your charge

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one full charge is better than 2 half charges

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and all that

blissful dome
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:D

gusty burrow
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Well by definition going up by the cube is cubic, not exponential, exponential would be going like 2^(charge time) while cubic is (charge time)^3

burnt flume
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Is a cubic when x>0 not an example of exponential growth?

gusty burrow
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No. Exponential growth has exponentials, that's why it is called exponential.

burnt flume
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I hate maths so much

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Line goes up and keeps going up

mint light
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Will stop going up

late karma
gusty burrow
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In maths exponential means exponential. It's only in common language that we incorrectly use exponential for things that aren't exponential

late karma
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for example

burnt flume
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I am aware

gusty burrow
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The fun parts are where you start looking at precision stagger damage and start getting (charge time)^9 terms

blissful dome
blissful dome
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does pres damage scale too?

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...

gusty burrow
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Yes

blissful dome
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cause spear

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god

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thats terrible

crude vergeBOT
blissful dome
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id just like to note

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it changes the charge time by

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.7 seconds

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h

gusty burrow
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If knife had varying stagger multi we'd even need to care about sleeping precision stagger damage with (charge time)^12 terms

blissful dome
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also someone should probably fix the formatting so the equation actually fits on smaller screens

sharp owl
blissful dome
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youre playing gtfo

sharp owl
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when they said exponential they meant "thing goes up faster over time"

blissful dome
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lmao

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well i mean

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exponential tends to infinity at an asymptote

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while cubic and alike dont

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so

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idk

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wait

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im tripping

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gimme a sec

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i need to sleep

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ok maybe i shouldnt be trying to think at 4 am

sharp owl
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yes

blissful dome
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anyways

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what i was trying to say

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was that it goes up faster

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over time

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something in my brain has broken

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find the 5000th derivative of 2^x :D

sharp owl
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actually 0

blissful dome
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?

gusty burrow
sharp owl
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2x -> 2 -> 0 -> 0 -> ... -> 0

blissful dome
blissful dome
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note the

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^

gusty burrow
sharp owl
blissful dome
gusty burrow
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Then you can't copy paste it

blissful dome
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well

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you already cant

sharp owl
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why would you need to copy paste it

blissful dome
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for some of it

gusty burrow
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Although apparently you can't copy paste the math formula already it keeps all the formatting for no reason

blissful dome
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if you try to drag it

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it just opens a wikimedia anyways

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and you cant copy paste

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ok

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so

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it already renders it as an svg

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why does it matter

grim leaf
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ive been getting more used to the charge weapons :D

gray pilot
blissful dome
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knife :D

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please say knife

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:D

blissful dome
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your

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favorite weapon

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?

gusty burrow
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Rendering as an image might honestly not be that bad for readers but it'd make it hell to maintain, have to rerender and upload an image for any change, and I'm the one who maintains it and I'm not gonna do that :)

grim leaf
gray pilot
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WRONG

blissful dome
gray pilot
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i disagree

blissful dome
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tel me

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🔫

sharp owl
grim leaf
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lately, for main, i switch between smg and hsmg

sharp owl
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i have tons of trouble finding a main weapon i like that isn't the carbine

blissful dome
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oh my god

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comments in inspect

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massive

gusty burrow
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Poor fireblade, the only AR user and AR only auto without buffs

blissful dome
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💀

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ar mid

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af

grim leaf
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carbine is fine, i just dont like burst fire

gray pilot
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who says i want it to be buffed

blissful dome
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for once there are comments to make a page readable

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holy shit

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thank you

sharp owl
gusty burrow
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Fireblade too stronk, only takes AR to self nerf

grim leaf
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i like the AR, i just prefer smg

vestal crystal
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you guys brought smg, smg, and heavy smg to our r2d2

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😐

grim leaf
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ye :D

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smg did good when the enemies got too close, and i used hel rifle to chain hit them at a distance

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and i used it on big guys/hybrids

vestal crystal
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i had to use primary way more than i would have liked to....

gray pilot
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ryk

vestal crystal
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i was dmr/sniper constantly at like 13%/80%

grim leaf
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tbf tho, host wakes rooms all the time

vestal crystal
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no, that was me

grim leaf
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oh, ive played with him before and he wakes rooms often anyway lol, i couldnt tell it was u

blissful dome
mint light
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why waste time going slow

blissful dome
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exactly

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ong

gray pilot
blissful dome
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every room?

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pull.

mint light
vestal crystal
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although host did open z199 after we already got the key from z200

blissful dome
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44 mothers and 23 tanks?

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pull.

grim leaf
mint light
grim leaf
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usually i play missions solo to learn the map and such

blissful dome
sharp owl
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which main automatic weapon has the most range

blissful dome
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ong

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uh

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ar?

sharp siren
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bp

blissful dome
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oh right

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that thing exists

mint light
grim leaf
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smg 5m
hsmg 7m
ar 10m
bp 15m
im not going to list the auto and machine pistols

blissful dome
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well

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technically

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bp and ar both fall off max at the same range

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so

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close enough

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ok

gray pilot
blissful dome
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:D

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im so sorry

grim leaf
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whatchu sorry for? O.o

blissful dome
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nvmd

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nothing

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:D

vestal crystal
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kmdsdk

blissful dome
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i am

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i am sorry

gusty burrow
gray pilot
blissful dome
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yea i dont code html

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i cant help

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:D

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also

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id like to note

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the uh

gusty burrow
blissful dome
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sidebar

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does happen to popup and block the equation

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half the time

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:D

vestal crystal
blissful dome
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"popular pages"

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and then it disappears and then reappears cause

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because

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.

gusty burrow
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You can hide the sidebar (but you have to scroll to the top of the page to get that option (: )

blissful dome
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...

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wtf

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uhhh

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you could try just scaling the entire equation

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:D

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i hope this is html

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if its not

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idk

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looks close enough

coarse grail
blissful dome
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the best kind of growth is factorial growth

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:D

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it grow very fast

blissful dome
sharp owl
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Give me a list of "dont's" with the hel rifle

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what should i avoid doing apart from missing shots

junior latch
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huh

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Dont shoot giant striker heads usually?

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dont aim for headshots generally

wispy bluff
sharp owl
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in order to leave them for sniper or because it has a bad multi

junior latch
sharp owl
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ok

junior latch
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the only thing a headshot does is limb break stagger here

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but you can shoot shoot a leg

wispy bluff
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Otherwise there's no other tricks to it. It's a rail gun with ammo to spare. As long as you get (multi) kills - you're doing your job.

blissful dome
coarse grail
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don't shoot your team through the enemy

blissful dome
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if you want to go for headshots just use hel gun

blissful dome
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brb let me load in join a lobby, equip hel rev hel rifle and start shooting from the other side of a horde

sharp owl
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i hesitate to bring it over high cal because of this

wispy bluff
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It's suboptimal, but still better than sniper or scattergun when it comes down to it.

blissful dome
#

scatr

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worse than burst right?

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or

wispy bluff
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Just shoot the horde - you'll get multi kills one way or another.

blissful dome
#

:D

wispy bluff
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Burst has more utility and practicality, scatter more fun.

blissful dome
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no like

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for shooting a single

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cause burst is just balanced™️

wispy bluff
#

128 vs 110

blissful dome
#

hm

wispy bluff
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So yes, more damage wasted.

blissful dome
#

but in terms of ammo waste

wispy bluff
#

Hard to measure, but mostly same.

blissful dome
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it used to be better

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didnt it

wispy bluff
#

Ammount of bursts BC has is basically the same as sniper, AFAIK, and scatter is in the same range too.

vestal crystal
#

Scattergun worse than bc, but easier to use

blissful dome
#

eh

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is it really easier to use

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idk

vestal crystal
#

Yes it is

wispy bluff
#

Approach enemy, left click.

blissful dome
#

burst has so much range

wispy bluff
#

No grace or skill to it.

blissful dome
#

idk

vestal crystal
#

Burst cannon has a lot of ways it can be used which make it as strong as it is

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Brushing being one of them that makes it significantly harder to use than scattergun

blissful dome
#

kill everything gun™️

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brushing?

wispy bluff
#

Swiping a burst as to hit multiple targets.

blissful dome
#

ah

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that

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interesting term

blissful dome
wispy bluff
#

Same

blissful dome
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it gets 9 ammo per refill

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and hcp gets 10

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so

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thats that

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it gets the same amount of ammo per refill as a choke

#

it

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huh

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it starts with the same ammo as a choke

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it has the same reserves as a choke

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...

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im starting to see something

sharp owl
#

bruuuuUUUUH

wispy bluff
#

Poor choker

sharp owl
#

my fucking PC crashed

blissful dome
#

30.01 vs 30.08

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choke gets .07 more damage

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1 less round

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much less range

wispy bluff
#

To be fair.

blissful dome
#

but 1200 rpm :D

vestal crystal
wispy bluff
#

Choker got that x1 prec

blissful dome
wispy bluff
#

Now if only shotguns could actually hit heads properly

blissful dome
#

i mean

vestal crystal
#

no

blissful dome
#

it wont really help

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cause its still

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30 damage

blissful dome
#

its the single shot burst

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also huh

vestal crystal
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not where i linked the timestamp from

blissful dome
#

6 rounds

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oh

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no recoil :D

blissful dome
#

hcp gets 30.1 damage

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compared to 30.01

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so

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its

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better

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:D

blissful dome
#

choke has a higher pres mult

sharp siren
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so you dont do full damage

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pres multi means shit on regular giants

blissful dome
#

ah

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ik

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its

sharp siren
#

only applies to big shooters

blissful dome
#

its a consolation prize

wispy bluff
#

Choker is alright against hybrids and bosses, but that's about it.

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Poor thing needs a buff.

blissful dome
#

nonoono

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1200 rpm :D

wispy bluff
#

2.7s reload speed for 4 shots is offensive when high cal is 2.5

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The downtime is utter crap

junior latch
blissful dome
#

hey

blissful dome
#

any amount of efficiency?

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worth

junior latch
junior latch
blissful dome
coarse grail
#

So if you kill 2 strikers once in like 8 shots its better 🤔

blissful dome
#

yes

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well you see

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hcp reloads faster

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has no charge up

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has less range

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but 1 more round

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is it worth?

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probably not

junior latch
#

high cal is more versatile situation wise since a lot of combat plays in its range
^ when it comes to strikers

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hel rifle shits on chargers like high cal never would

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kills at insane range, pens

blissful dome
#

i thought for scatter it was liek

junior latch
#

4.7 scattergun vs 3.765 iirc for burst cannon?

blissful dome
#

4.8-7

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and for burst

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its like

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3.4

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nope

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its 3.53

junior latch
#

ah right

blissful dome
#

decimals

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:D

sharp owl
#

what is the high cal equivalent of main weapons

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aim center mass and click

analog flicker
#

Sawed off

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Just no range

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You could get away with this for carbine/hel revo as well

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If you just never 2 tap shooters/strikers with hel revo I guess.

sharp owl
#

i feel like i'm wasting all of my ammo

sharp siren
#

with what weapon?

sharp owl
#

all of them

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lol

mint light
#

a YOU problem

sharp owl
#

INDEED

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actually i'm specifically bad with smgs i guess

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i get like 2 kills per mag with hsmg and pdw

analog flicker
mint light
#

My question is: WHY ! those weapons?

analog flicker
#

I know I'm a HSMG user as of late but only 2 kills.

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Wut.

sharp siren
#

If you know your gun those 20 damage body shot strikers
if doing 30 damage bodyshot everything
if automatic primary always aim head then go to body

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most importantly just watch your position

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always funnel

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game its literally based around hallways and passages

sharp owl
coarse grail
#

are you running out of ammo?

sharp owl
#

no

coarse grail
#

are you getting overrun?

sharp owl
#

yes

mint light
coarse grail
#

Perhaps you are leaning on your mains too much instead of your specials?

mint light
#

actually thermale is the new crutch for new players

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there

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said it

analog flicker
sharp owl
coarse grail
#

Also is this in solo or team play

sharp owl
#

the game in general

analog flicker
sharp siren
#

if you want just sometginf that you wanna use simply

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jusut use saw off

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and fricking high cal

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its literally impossible to bad

mint light
sharp siren
#

with those weapons

mint light
analog flicker
mint light
analog flicker
#

Besides. The rest of us were moving turbines around (Was Dakstar's rundown. I forget what level)

mint light
#

D tier is great

analog flicker
#

Yeah

mint light
#

altho .... Why ALL reactors

analog flicker
#

I lowkey can't wait for Mako to experience it

mint light
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We almost first tried D2

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wiped on last code

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Haven't tested D4 yet

wispy bluff
mint light
coarse grail
#

Its leading up to E1 where you shut down 4 reactors

mint light
coarse grail
#

dang

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Maybe I'll be able to muster enough players to go through that rundown now I'm done with vanilla

mint light
coarse grail
#

I played a few as 2 or 3 man and it was pretty hard

mint light
coarse grail
#

yeah

mint light
#

Dunno D1 we duo'd and died on extract. then went back in as 3 and wiped 4 times on sec 😂

coarse grail
#

Hmm I don't remember too well, I didn't actually record those clears either

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I think we stopped at late B or early C

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I probs messaged Dak about it at some point

mint light
#

I skipped C .. shhhhh

coarse grail
#

I think we were duoing B2 and did objectives in the wrong order

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I'm not sure if we went back and did it properly

mint light
#

Yeah if you take the wrong order it gon hurt

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right order is pretty easy tho.

sharp owl
#

any fix for when the game doesn't let you initiage cage drop for whatever reason

mint light
#

But I love that he uses the unique room from R2E1 on it

coarse grail
sharp owl
#

okay

coarse grail
#

I had that bug a few times recently which is kinda unusual

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never had it in vanilla before

sharp owl
#

damn r7c1 lags

little ridge
sharp owl
#

i mean framerate

little ridge
#

I remember someone having that problem when his friend had a VPN on etc.

modern coral
little ridge
#

Snatcher snatches the fpses

sharp owl
#

what does that mean

#

bruh

rose nova
#

ah yes snatchers on r1c1 :3
u cant lie to me i saw u edited it

coarse grail
#

your frames or your body 🔫 🤠

modern coral
#

Something about the model uses a rendering protocol that is bugged and commits tons of resources to some worthless graphical thing.

sharp owl
#

ugh

junior latch
modern coral
#

We pray that one day the 10cc unpaid intern, FlowAria, will give us a mod to fix.

weary token
modern coral
#

R7D1 might yet be playable at 120+ FPS

rose nova
#

sawed off sniper for less and max range

weary token
#

feels cool

junior latch
#

sawed off range is unironically better than a lot of mains

weary token
#

also I enjoy the ammo

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is it still low? yeah, but you are useful in a tight situation

junior latch
#

its actual downside rn is the mag size

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but i still have it at a confident 6th for mains

rose nova
#

i remember the first time i used sawed off i got the illusional two kill one single bullet

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and it was funny

weary token
#

I feel like a damn cyberpunk cowboy with shotgun revolver

analog flicker
rose nova
junior latch
#

tbf high cal vs strikers has rly good range

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perk of overkilling

weary token
#

YOu have no idea how many times that has happened

rose nova
#

you blegh ur last AHHGHDSHD partner

weary token
#

to me at least

rose nova
#

idk how to make sleepers screams on text

analog flicker
weary token
#

Rattle em boys!! nyeeheheheheheeh

weary token
#

But less mags can be hold

modern coral
weary token
#

just to be fair

junior latch
#

What ray said

analog flicker
modern coral
#

HSMG stats, move HSMG to special slot.

weary token
#

BEst part of shotgun, single reloads

junior latch
#

also reduce hammer stagger
Return burst cannon to 19 dmg but buff ammo and reduce recoil

modern coral
#

BC is fine.

weary token
#

dont need a whole new mag, just shuck a shell in there and blast another sleeper

rose nova
modern coral
#

Having ultra-strong, ultra-high skill weapons is good, I think.

rose nova
#

:b

modern coral
#

I'm 180ing from AltR3.

weary token
junior latch
wispy bluff
analog flicker
#

Iirc. 30rd AR = 65 dmg per mag vs 87 damage per mag with 40 rounds.

junior latch
#

i can see the point tho

weary token
modern coral
#

19 damage BC is just bad, imo.

junior latch
#

but then i also dont want anyone to meme about burst cannon being too strong

modern coral
#

BC, Scatter, and Sniper are neatly differentiated rn.

analog flicker
rose nova
#

so real

junior latch
wispy bluff
# weary token awh man

All the shotguns still use "magazine mechanics", with a preset animations.
Pump action shotgun: 8 shells in a tube.
Reload animation: inserts 2 shells, pumps it, bam - 8 shells in tube again.

junior latch
#

19 dmg burst cannon with recoil being worse and lowered ammo however

analog flicker
weary token
little ridge
junior latch
analog flicker
junior latch
#

Oh mb

analog flicker
#

It's all good

modern coral
analog flicker
#

Yes

modern coral
#

6-shot kill is also fair, I think.

#

Maybe even 5-shot, but that's a more extreme change.

sharp owl
#

what does it do now

#

is it 7 shot kill

weary token
#

Shotgun revolver for the most powerful feeling

analog flicker
#

For a striker

sharp owl
#

that sound like a lot of bullets

modern coral
#

Which is kind of terrible.

#

^

sharp owl
#

3 kills a mag without headshots

#

mmmmmm

modern coral
#

AR was the best auto when all autos were terrible.

sharp owl
#

oh wait 4

modern coral
#

And it was also still not good.

sharp owl
#

i don't know my multiplication tables

analog flicker
#

The 7 shot includes combination of headshots and body shots so

#

Even less if you aren't hitting heads

wispy bluff
#

I mean that's comfy 3 kills per mag, seems pretty fair.

analog flicker
#

But in actual games. You'll also have teammates shooting as well so this number could be less in practice

modern coral
#

Now everything has been buffed to match PDW, which should be a reasonable threshold, but AR is the only auto Main to not get any buffs.

sharp owl
#

kinda sad. I like the ar

junior latch
#

machine pp, bullpup and auto pp arent buffed to the same level id argue

modern coral
#

I used to like AR.