gtfo-chat

[sharp owl]

let us costumize our guns please

i wanna take all the red dots off

all of them

return me to iron sights

it cannot be worse than these

[wispy bluff]

Not happening, all guns are prebaked

[sharp owl]

unbake them then

[surreal plaza]

crude iron sights >>> cluttered optic

[wispy bluff]

Unless they just bake all the variants and do it that way..

[sharp owl]

throw them in the unoven

[surreal plaza]

fridge

[sharp owl]

worst decision ever probably

50gb update featuring every prebaked possible weapon

[wispy bluff]

I mean I have no idea how something like call of duty does it

[modern coral]

Weapons in GTFO are not pre-baked.

They're built from a big pool of interchangeable components.

[sharp owl]

are they though

[modern coral]

Of which what we get is how the devs decided to string them together.

[wispy bluff]

If I put an under barrel on SCAR - do I actually put one on, or do I just unlock a different gun...

[modern coral]

Yes, this is how modded weapons are constructed.

[sharp owl]

it seems pretty useless of a thing to code in if you wont allow people to use that anyway

oh

ookay

[modern coral]

It's also why cringelords can load in with modded weapons w/out breaking the game or failing a checksum.

Technically, they're using a bunch of information that already exists backend.

[sharp owl]

what i want in this game the most is
Give a better scope to dmr
Give mastaba the pistol's flashlight

[modern coral]

They planned to have a Frankenstein weapon system a long time ago.

But it never panned out.

[sharp owl]

then we must lobby for these

[modern coral]

It'd be a nightmare to balance, tbf.

[sharp owl]

what do you mean bruh

[modern coral]

I think I agree with scrapping it.

[sharp owl]

oooh the customizable weapons u mean

[modern coral]

Attatchments would be fine, but modifying your damage and ammo w/ weapon parts?

[sharp owl]

honestly i don't think so

[modern coral]

It's way too messy.

[sharp owl]

that's all anyone really wants

[junior latch]

@grim leaf @mystic moss @sharp owl hel revo has pen 2
that means it hits 2 targets total

[sharp owl]

knew it.

[modern coral]

I think that they may also want to have certain levers, such as thermal scopes, to pull on.

PDW is arguably differentiated from HSMG by virtue of being a thermal.

[sharp owl]

yeah i understand but some guns are just egregious

why did you give mastaba revolver, a precision gun, the shit flashlight

same question for dmr's scope

[mystic moss]

special revo would be too strong if it had a good flashlight

[sharp owl]

it has a great flashlight

im talking about special revo

[modern coral]

Revo just means special revo, lol.

[pine root]

Charger spam be like

All I am saying is the second you switched off we won

[unreal crystal]

they should buff revo

[sharp owl]

yes

[unreal crystal]

we need revo meta

[sharp owl]

by giving it a good light

[wispy bluff]

They appear to imply that it's a close range hipfire gun.

[sharp owl]

yeah right

[unreal crystal]

are you insane

[sharp owl]

i am

[unreal crystal]

why are you hipfiring the revo

[vernal nebula]

You can usually skip that zone entirely for ID’s. Running Koning is also a good idea if you do have to

[sharp owl]

it has great hipfire accuracy

but still

pls. flashlight.

[sharp siren]

Dam revo flashlight convo in 2023

[mystic moss]

please don't remind me...

[modern coral]

I do actually want to know if 15.1 damage Revo would be OP.

I feel like it'd just be fine.

Like, you technically have great giant damage already

But your DPS is just so awful that it doesn't matter.

[unreal crystal]

I don’t care if it’s op

[surreal plaza]

i just pray to every available god in this world that zone 41 -45 has all the ids for me so i don't have to go in that zone

[mystic moss]

it felt pretty good in the modded rundowns i played

[unreal crystal]

Revo meta would be so fun

[modern coral]

^

[mystic moss]

is it not meta??

[modern coral]

MGs are kind of snooze tbh.

[sharp owl]

if high cal can get a good light

revo deserves it

if anything the high cal is a short range gun

[unreal crystal]

I just miss the old hel gun man

[sharp siren]

Get rekt

[modern coral]

Play Burst Cannon

[unreal crystal]

I should

[mystic moss]

watched old gameplay of hel gun, you can spam that shit so fast

[modern coral]

BC feels surprisingly fair rn.

Despite also being cracked

[modern coral]

HEL Gun nerfs didn't sink in until I tried HEL Rifle again.

[unreal crystal]

Anytime I go back to it vox im always shocked at how fast you could fire it

[modern coral]

HEL Rifle feels so fast for the snails pace of a CD it has.

[sharp owl]

actually is burst cannon a good plan for chargers

[unreal crystal]

I can still use hel gun pretty well but man 0.1 was just so fun

[modern coral]

I feel like 0.2s was fine.

[unreal crystal]

0.2 was good

[broken rain]

Every gun in every game should have an option for iron sights. I will stand by this.

[modern coral]

Not nearly as insane as 0.1, but doesn't completely remove its spammability.

[unreal crystal]

I can still use the gun with 0.3 but I don’t enjoy it as much as I used to

[mystic moss]

nah hel gun nerf was necessary
i friendly fire less often with helgun since i have an extra 0.1s to consider the consequences

[unreal crystal]

LOL

[pine root]

Hel gun nerf was good probably

I am sad though because double tapping was so good

[unreal crystal]

Hel gun tks down by 60% since nerf

[pine root]

But tbh hel guns should just be removed

[unreal crystal]

shut up jish

[modern coral]

It's meh.

It is a very high skill option w/ a fairly poor eco.

[latent palm]

@mystic moss

can u help me

[sharp owl]

it's weird that it has so much recoil

like god damn

why

[unreal crystal]

did the buff change anything against chargers ray?

[mystic moss]

CAN'T HEAR YOU SINCE YOU'RE BLOCKED

[modern coral]

No, lol.

[latent palm]

damn so sad

[modern coral]

Same breakpoints, slightly more range I guess.

I guess 1 bullet hitting gives you more follow-up options now

you only need 8 damage.

[pine root]

@mystic moss warp gate needs you

[broken rain]

Designed by Colt probably

[unreal crystal]

Wouldn’t it take 1 less hel revo shot yea

I forget stats

[modern coral]

It has that recoil for good reason.

It's an insane gun.

[pine root]

Yeah

[sharp owl]

doesnt seem like an insane gun given how you talk about it

[pine root]

But there is no way you go for this

[unreal crystal]

trust

I got this

[modern coral]

What do I say about it that implies it's not insane?

[wraith marsh]

Or

[sharp siren]

Bc its crazy

[wraith marsh]

You just hit 2 pens with hel rifle

[modern coral]

The real rebalance was the ammo nerf.

Missing brushes is now a much bigger deal for your eco.

[sharp siren]

we should bring burst canceling back

[unreal crystal]

honestly

[modern coral]

💀

[sharp siren]

so my man knows how crazy bc can be

💀

[unreal crystal]

Make this guy a dev already

[broken rain]

The ATF hates this one weird trick

[modern coral]

He won't though, because so few people can actually play BC

[sharp owl]

Could you maybe hipfire burst cannon

to stop the recoil

[vernal nebula]

Yeah lmao

[unreal crystal]

you can just crouch at the right time

[modern coral]

He just needs to get into a run w/ a cracked BC player one time.

[unreal crystal]

Or pull down hard on first bullet and you’re fine

[sharp owl]

what does crouching do

[wide moss]

If you show the atf this game they would have a heart attack and stroke and aneurism on the spot

[unreal crystal]

cancels a lot of the recoil

[modern coral]

I usally pick a spot under my second target, and flick to that spot.

[sharp owl]

does crouching in general help with recoil or is it like an animation bug

[unreal crystal]

i mean it won’t help on an automatic weapon

[modern coral]

It just moves your camera down.

[unreal crystal]

But theoretically it works on every single shot/burst weapon

[modern coral]

So if recoil makes you shoot high, "high" is typically on-target.

[wispy bluff]

Aim for the crotch to be sure

[wide moss]

Just aim center mass

[modern coral]

FR, though, if you encounter a BC player that is using it to solo reactor waves, that's really the one-time experience you need to "get" what is so crazy about the weapon.

[modern coral]

You will miss most of the burst, tho.

The recoil is p insane.

[wide moss]

Pull your whole arm down

[sharp owl]

is sentry cpu speed fire rate or target aqcuisision time or both

[sharp siren]

both

[sharp owl]

thamk

[latent palm]

shotgun/sniper sentry takes a additional buff with bio tags

that will not render a bullet cost between shots

(on wiki btw wink wink)

[sharp owl]

i know

[sharp siren]

want your r7b3 clear

[sharp owl]

I'm turning my burst sentry into rambo by giving it +60% cpu speed and +25% damage or something

[sharp owl]

sure?

i was gonna do r4a1

maybe later

[sharp siren]

Too bad join 18

[sharp owl]

non

we have a lobby

[wraith marsh]

Forge them into a carry

[sharp siren]

nah he got trolled on his previous match

he pulled his own weight too

[unreal crystal]

can you stop trolling him blackdragon

[sharp siren]

I made the lobby funny

I was the funny guy

[unreal crystal]

you’re never the funny guy…

wtf

[wraith marsh]

Did you clear r2e1 yet elbow

[unreal crystal]

crib…

[sharp siren]

blood...

gang gang

[wide moss]

I tried to do r1a1 with bots last night and on the first alarm door after unlocking it the bots just stood there and stared at a wall until we were overrun

[wispy bluff]

Unlucky

I had never epexrienced that bug, no idea what causes it.

Performance maybe?

[wide moss]

My performance seemed fine

Never dropped below 30 fps

[sharp siren]

where they standing on a circle?

[wide moss]

The door was already unlocked

[wispy bluff]

When that happens your best bet is to just kick the bots that seem to refuse to scan and add them back once scan is done.

[wispy bluff]

Wait, what does this mean.

[wide moss]

No like the scan was over

[sharp siren]

Fps might affect reaction time

[wide moss]

And when the enemies came through they just stood there

[sharp siren]

also they can melee enemies when if they get close

an it takes a little to melee them

[wispy bluff]

Oh, did the horde broke into the small first room and bots couldn't stop them.

[wide moss]

They didn’t even try

[sharp siren]

they did

🥹

[wispy bluff]

They probably did, but their DPS is not great

Should've mined the door or used a sentry

[pine root]

Bishop going to melee 10 charger giants solo

[wispy bluff]

Lots of sentries.

[pine root]

He is not the hero we need

But the one we deserve

[wispy bluff]

You should keep bots away from enemies.

[wraith marsh]

Jish
When no ammo charger giant level

[pine root]

Hmm

[wispy bluff]

Once enemies get into punching distance bots AI seems to fucking go AI to just A

[wide moss]

The whole room is punching distance because it’s tiny

[wispy bluff]

Exactly.

In cases like these we praise our lord and saviour for the mine deployer.

[sharp siren]

it takes like a solid 1 -2 seconds for bots to "analize" their threat system

to swtich to weapons

[wispy bluff]

Or bring HEL shotgun and just solo the entire wave yourself.

[wide moss]

I’ll probably do that

[wispy bluff]

Reminder that bots are a crutch and not a viable replacement for proper players. Their subpar algorithms are partially the reason.

[sharp siren]

what artek its saying theyre just filler for undermanned teams

[wide moss]

Yeah

[wispy bluff]

That being said - you can genuinely solo the entire rundown 1 with them.

With the only level I worry about being R1C1

[wide moss]

Should I give the bots the bio tracker

[wispy bluff]

YES

One of them

[wide moss]

Yea

[thick temple]

yeah they're cracked when pinging

[wispy bluff]

To compensate for their shortcomings - they are insane on bio.

[wide moss]

Alright good to know

[wispy bluff]

They will ping anything that moves within 30 meters, all the time.

[sharp siren]

what are you talking about

girl just read my steam guide

[wispy bluff]

Never give them Cfoam though.

[wide moss]

Oh

I kinda did that

I just told it to spray it on the door

[wispy bluff]

I mean... I guess it worked?

You just needed a mine too and you'd be golden

Cfoam + mine combo turns any closable door into a wave-deleter

[analog flicker]

[wide moss]

I had bio tracker and the bots had c foam auto turret and shotgun turret

[wispy bluff]

Were turrets down

Or did you try to save them

[wide moss]

They got destroyed

[wispy bluff]

What

[wide moss]

Like the wave just ran past them

[wispy bluff]

Right. Too close probably.

[analog flicker]

Sentries need time to lock on

[wispy bluff]

They need a little range to work with.

[analog flicker]

Especially sniper/burst

[wispy bluff]

The one time HEL auto sentry would be perfect, lmao

Did you pinged the enemies at least?

[wide moss]

Ye

[heady peak]

wish me luck gotta to error alarm

do

[wispy bluff]

Then I'm baffled. It's a freak wipe.

[analog flicker]

Sniper doesn't shoot for Jack shit unless enemies are pinged/it's your sentry and you brought sentry cpu speed

Or for whatever reason. A striker was infront of it for that long

[wide moss]

The bots did the scan then went to the door and sat there

[wispy bluff]

Weird.

They are stupid, but not that stupid.

WAIT. What guns did they had?

[analog flicker]

[wide moss]

I do not remember

[wispy bluff]

Check. If you can. I'm curious.

[wide moss]

I gave them alright weapons though if I remember correctly

[analog flicker]

Burstrifle/carbine
MGs

Is typically what you give bots.

[wispy bluff]

Bots are quirky when it comes to weapons.

Generally you just give them something mid range that has lots of ammo and forget about them.

[wide moss]

I could’ve given them ass weapons and not have known

[sharp siren]

read the steam guide 😉

[wispy bluff]

Burst rifle + Arbalist machine gun (low RPM) is my personal comfort choice.

[grizzled bison]

maybe finish editing your steam guide

[wide moss]

I definitely gave one or two a shotgun

[wispy bluff]

Do not. Never.

[wide moss]

Not even as secondary?

[wispy bluff]

They will take potshots with it across the entire map.

[analog flicker]

I would personally just give them Veruta. They'd be miles more efficient with it than the average player

[wispy bluff]

Then accidentally oneshot you.

Then miss a point blank shot anyway.

Seen it happen. The visage is burned into my memory.

Burst rifle + Machine Gun.
Then treat them as medium range turrets. Keep enemies at a safe distance and they will provide suppressive fire.

[analog flicker]

Me remembering when Mako got 2 shot by Dauda's Arbalist into the back

Me: hears 2 arbalist shots go off
Chat: MakoCho is down

looks over to see Dauda reloading

[sharp siren]

Veruta its just the better options

[wide moss]

Oh yeah I should run the game in Vulkan

[sharp siren]

unless the level got chargers

then you hit arbalist

[analog flicker]

Arbalist imo lost close range effectiveness (in terms of dps)

I don't like the slower RoF

[wide moss]

Ok nvm yeah I have them probably bad weapons

[analog flicker]

On bots probably good though.

[wide moss]

One had hel shotgun and combat shotgun

[analog flicker]

[wide moss]

Yeah

[analog flicker]

Imean. It isn't bad per say. But if they start shooting far range. It's bad

[sharp siren]

you dont really want them with anything hel

[wide moss]

R1A1 is small rooms though

Next one had rifle and revolver

[analog flicker]

Me who played with a random who gave the bot hel rifle. And the bot downed both him and the other guy with it.

[wide moss]

And last one had sawed off and hel gun

[analog flicker]

[sharp siren]

DAMN

[wide moss]

Yeah

[sharp siren]

I mean

oh

thats not good

[wide moss]

I just saw ooh this looks good

I also had hel shotgun

[sharp siren]

Yeah if you want a more consistent experience with bot

[wide moss]

So imma chock that death up to a skull issue

[sharp siren]

Carabine, Burst rifle

any of the machineguns

[analog flicker]

Carabine

[sharp siren]

Can you give them Burst canon

yes

are they good with it

yeah

are they gonna shoot you and throw the run up

hell yeah

[analog flicker]

Until they burst it into your back

[wide moss]

I’ll probably end up accidentally shooting them more than they do me

[sharp siren]

nah

theyll clap you

[wide moss]

Alright now they all have carbine and burst cannon

[wispy bluff]

Your funeral

A1 is all about the mines.

Except for finale

[wide moss]

I have mines

Or they have mines

I have c foam

And I’ll just tell them where to put mines

[wispy bluff]

Yep.

That's how it goes.

[wide moss]

Also I’m adding Vulkan to launch options

Probably will run better

[wispy bluff]

Shrug, have no idea how it works.

[sharp siren]

This game doesnt have vulkan support

i think

whats your specs?

[wide moss]

i7 7700 and gtx 1050

16 gb ddr4

I run the game above 30 rn

On medium settings 1080p

[sharp siren]

Good cpu gpu lacking

you can try going low

on textures and shadow resolution

then use the cpu culling to max

[wide moss]

It’s running playable rn and I have cpu culling on max

Also Vulkan works

Get a lot more fps

[sharp siren]

Pretty dope

[wispy bluff]

Doesn't vulkan requires multiple gpus or am I going insane

[wide moss]

Nah

[sharp siren]

thats sli

[wide moss]

It’s just a better api than direct x or metal

Or open gl

It usually runs way better and doesn’t strain your gpu as much

[wispy bluff]

Fascinsting.

Anyone can use it?

[wide moss]

Yeah

[wispy bluff]

Hm. Should look into it.

[burnt flume]

It's been used for notable games

[sharp siren]

Doom eternal

[burnt flume]

Like some of the doom games, baldurs gate 3

Yeah eternal, thought so

[sharp siren]

Hell yeah

[wide moss]

Just install it like you would direct x

If it’s not already installed

Yeah I’m running gtfo on medium and high settings and I get above 30 fps

And that’s without Vulkan

I have enabled Vulkan and so far I’ve had slightly higher fps in menus

[sharp siren]

I would honestly just lower it further

your doing earlier levels now so its no biggie

but later on youll be on bigger levels and and more actionpack more demanding areas

you'll want that fps for gameplay purposes

specially if you reach r7d1

"A big level with a lot of things going on" 💀

[queen galleon]

I finally went outside in GTFO in R6A1

It was a sort of desert

Then returned to the underground

[earnest forge]

Welcome to R6

[flat perch]

start running immediately, u can get deep inside the cave to the left

[sharp owl]

ima do r4a2 PE tomorrow

should not be difficult

[junior latch]

its a vibe

[wispy bluff]

Wasted opportunity to not have giant skeletons lying around

I don't even remember A2

Some cringy storage again

[balmy moat]

Menus don’t matter though

[wide moss]

Yeah

[balmy moat]

It’s all about your frames when there’s GTFO events happening

[wide moss]

But I’m in game now and my fps is more stable

And staying closer to 40

[latent palm]

R4A3 30:13s

man this shit sucks

so scuffed

[pine root]

Duo? Or quad

[latent palm]

squad

but its only me pushing

[pine root]

It is a good time

[junior latch]

Who are you doing it with kaiser?

[pine root]

It can go like 10 mins faster

[little ridge]

super easy even with vanilla bots as along as you know what to do

[latent palm]

pubs

[junior latch]

oof

[latent palm]

with @upbeat sail

[little ridge]

if you want an advice ||you can bring an extra cell from Main in Secondary so you save some time, and remember to query the HSU before you start overload||

[latent palm]

yeah\

[little ridge]

Stupid question: Stormer isn't Stormpooper, right?

[latent palm]

imagine us splitin for cells in B2

that shit was cringe as fuck

[upbeat sail]

its me and im on the other side of the planet so I cant tell if something dies for half a second

[pine root]

No

[latent palm]

so it was me to give info lol

[upbeat sail]

also who tf is stormpooper

[latent palm]

a great guy

[upbeat sail]

[broken rain]

I've heard IRL the "aim for the crotch and let the burst carry up to the head" thing actually works with some weapons at some ranges.

Plus with the way armor is now, aiming for the pelvis might actually disable your target when the center of mass shot is blocked by armor.

[charred ember]

usually for giants, if im running my fav hel rifle i put one shot in the head then hipfire the belly

[latent palm]

On 1 or more than that?

[charred ember]

more hit

just spam until i see orange kill confirm tbh

[latent palm]

You aint hel rifling if you aint getting 3+kills from one shot

[charred ember]

i mean for trash i would try to land that

but for giant i just want them ded

[latent palm]

Eh

You just need practice on line ups

[vernal nebula]

Definitely the case for the PDW lol

[balmy moat]

@latent palm Booster scroll

You forget booster scroll

[mint light]

has blue lights tho

[latent palm]

Booster scroll?

[balmy moat]

@junior latch I thought you were to teach this man everything

[latent palm]

Not even logs lol

[junior latch]

i told him

like 4 times

[balmy moat]

[O] button but you have to cycle through all players

[mint light]

I always do this

[balmy moat]

[latent palm]

Ah

I thought just no boosters usage lol

Ill note that down for later runs

[balmy moat]

For restricted yes, but you need to verify that in nonsolo runs via booster scrolling

[latent palm]

Gotchu

Are they also recorded in logs?

If so ill try to pull out logs to add on the submit then

[balmy moat]

You also need to submit logs yes

You never do that either

[latent palm]

Aight

[latent palm]

Watched the guide

But im@confused of my own log files

[balmy moat]

Your most recent one is the most recent instance you opened GTFO

Figure it out from there

Might be helpful to sort it by date modified

[latent palm]

I shift between mod/restrictions so its hard to take care of lol

[wide moss]

Disable them in more than one way

[last parrot]

hpii fan?

[sharp owl]

3 chargers in a line during stealth

neuron activation

[spring mulch]

im new to the game can anyone help me learn the mechianics

[pine root]

I would play r1a1 solo with bots once or twice by yourself

[sharp owl]

learn how to use terminals https://youtu.be/Ih_g15-t2Ao
sleeping enemies react to sound and your flashlight, do not move when they pulse

[spring mulch]

i did i got scared

that shit is scary

[sharp owl]

hitting a surface or another sleeper that's close to other sleepers will alert them

glowing sleepers have a chance to be alerted when you murder another one in line of sight to them up to like 10 meters or so

[pine root]

Yeah if people teach the game that thes to go away

[spring mulch]

wat

im confused

[pine root]

The game isn’t scary

[sharp owl]

i would jump in with you but my voice is tired >.<

[spring mulch]

i mean

it is too me it dose have to be to you

[sharp owl]

it is to a newcomer that's playing alone with bots

playing alone spooks me at times

[pine root]

If you get taught the game

It isn’t

[sharp owl]

yes

[spring mulch]

it would still be scary

[sharp owl]

sometimes it is

usually in high risk situations

[rough robin]

well yeah thats why you don't teach new players everything

[sharp owl]

let em be immersed

[rough robin]

exactly

when I first started playing a buddy tried to explain the 'meta' weapons and shit to me and I just went "nope, nope, don't wanna know"

[sharp owl]

SO ANYWAY

LET ME TELL YOU THE META OF SPAWN MECHANICS GUNS AND MELEE WEAPONS

[pine root]

That is what I am trying to do I recommend not learning the mechanics!

Just play for a few hours

[sharp owl]

the immersed explaination is

glowing sleepers hear better

dont move or kill when they glow or groove

[broken rain]

You've interupted the sleepers groove! The rthym by which they live their lives!

[sharp owl]

learning terminals is important

they are very very useful

[charred ember]

heres a useful tip. If u feel like alot of sleeper just takin turn glowing and basically leave no window for u to move. Try to sync them up with ur flashlight

if some sleeper is glowing flash ur flashlight into those who are not glowing will sync them up

its especially easier if u have a strong flashlight

[trim heath]

The Sun aka the long range flashlight is incredibly useful for that

sometimes too useful

[modern coral]

@sharp owl I'm w/ Gerz, your pulldown is crazy big

It also seems to be mistimed on some shots.

[sharp owl]

so less pulldown and that's bout it?

[modern coral]

You need to improve the first shot accuracy a bit.

You shoot above strikers sometimes.

[tough hedge]

[steady dragon]

what's the best order to prog the game in if youre planning on working through all the rundowns as a single team? finishing all of each rundown and moving the next or doing all As then all Bs

[terse swift]

in terms of difficulty? all As then Bs

generally

[modern coral]

Skip around based on your current skill level and if you're getting stuck.

[vernal nebula]

Yeah I've just been playing based on number and the only significant difficulty bump so far was R2E1, I'm on R4 now

[rose nova]

yeh just do it in order till u get hard stuck

give it 2 3 4 tries ans if u are nowhere near the middle of the mission time to move on

[sharp owl]

@modern coral what the hell man that's not fair

you missed like 4 bursts that entire alarm

teach me

[modern coral]

Some of it's just positioning, and that alarm has a crazy chill funnel.

But the actual DTR recoil is very low.

The real challenge of compensation is that it fires extremely quickly

[sharp owl]

also i see you're only shooting when they're about to attack so they're staying still

but how does one do this when you cant wait

or is that just not a good idea

[modern coral]

It's situational, usually.

If enemies are further, I usually aim low and let recoil hit head.

('cept crawlers)

This alarm is just very CQC

w/ poor lighting

[sharp owl]

that too

does it not bother you at all that you cant see them

or i guess barely see them at range

[vestal crystal]

if 2 guys are also running at you and you think they will start attack animations at the same time, you can shoot one early to stagger it, then be able to wait for the other one to start animation making aiming more predictable

[modern coral]

It's eh, just as long as you can hit the shot

Knowing animation sets helps, as well.

Low detail is still usually enough to gauge where to aim.

[modern coral]

^

[vestal crystal]

waiting for attack animation to get easy headshots is a really consistent way to do it, same with sniping giants/hybrids

[modern coral]

I shouldn't, but I constantly wait for attacks to use revo.

[vestal crystal]

i do as well

🤝

[modern coral]

Same for Sniper

[vestal crystal]

i used to for hel gun, i dont think i can do it for hel gun anymore though

(i dont think i can even use hel gun anymore 😦 )

[modern coral]

Another has fallen

[vestal crystal]

tbf i fell early after the 1st charge up change

[mystic moss]

hel gun users are an endangered species

[vestal crystal]

i wasnt strong enough...

the 2nd change was just spitting on my grave

[sharp owl]

why did they give it such a delay

[wraith marsh]

hel rifle users stay winning

[sharp owl]

couldn't they just reduce the fire rate

[vestal crystal]

it was a way to nerf the gun, without really nerfing it, just killing everyone's muscle memory making it much more annoying to use

[modern coral]

The muscle memory isn't even the problem

[rose nova]

i mean from 7 shots in a sec to 3

[modern coral]

I've managed to relearn the gun every time

It's just not fun to play

[rose nova]

its not bad its just very weird to use

[vestal crystal]

you could not shoot 7 shots in one second with old hel gun

[rose nova]

no? not even with the 0.1? cause i thought u could spammin it

like gettin the timing

[trim sail]

nah

[rose nova]

well maybs i exaggerated

like a ton fuck

[modern coral]

The recoil was nasty, but you could get pretty close to mag dumping in a second.

And you didn't have to, because the DPS was so good.

[sharp owl]

i would expect nothing less from a gun with that model

[trim sail]

i feel like hel gun is the most well-rounded special weapon

it basically can do anything

[sharp owl]

no

high cal

[modern coral]

AltR3 HEL Gun, AltR3 BC, current HCP.

All vying to be the perfect weapon.

[vestal crystal]

they are all r4 bc's lil bros though

[sharp owl]

if we could take 2 high cals sleepers would go extinct

out of FEAR

[modern coral]

Lil' bro has to shoot 5 shots at a time.

[vestal crystal]

and imagine not being able to laser a hybrid from 20 m away easily now

[sharp owl]

why do that when you can 4 man execute

[vestal crystal]

because imagine 4 people with old burst cannon

[sharp owl]

i think i am going to try burst cannon

i would probably waste lots of bullets on it however

Nevermind screw this weapon

[rose nova]

smh

skill issue :3

[manic fossil]

Anyone know what to do?
r6ax OVERRIDE_LOCKDOWN is what im suppose to put in, but nothing happens. Am I soing something wrong?

[knotty fiber]

if you have 3 bots on the slot player & bots can a player join and replace the bot ingame?

[rose nova]

are u doin it in the set terminal?

theres a specific one u need to do

[manic fossil]

got it thanks guys

[wide moss]

Learned that last part first hand today, luckily the ai just kinda whacked it and the other sleeper next to the activated one was just in a coma

[rose nova]

yeah is kinda weird seems like in long range aggro only one activates at a time with the hit, but idk is funky

thank u bots for helpin with my fuck ups

[wide moss]

The sleeper that woke up also just kinda felt the ai’s face a few times then the ai wacked em

Like hmmmm I’m not sure if that’s a person lemme try a few more times

[blissful dome]

long range can only aggro one

and the aggroed cannot aggro others when killed

well

unless it screams

[rose nova]

i knew it >:3

or

unless u activate em by somethin

lile runnin or walkin while they glow

[blissful dome]

well thats not the sleeper activating stuff idk

[rose nova]

... well fais :]

but u get me

[blissful dome]

:D

[wide moss]

Is bishop schizo or something

He keeps saying “oh here we go again, smoke em if you got em”

When nothing is around

[rose nova]

he has bio he seems em through the doors

[wide moss]

Is it ironic I gave him the bio tracker

[rose nova]

:3

[wide moss]

:3

[mortal zenith]

im new

i want to play

[rose nova]

helloooo ! u can check the LFG channels to share n join lobbies if chu wanna find teams, the instructions are in https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/653623062964731920

just some advicee
always ask to not be carried, make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel
be sure to do the tutorial first [Training] and start on rundown 1 since its the simplest one

[mortal zenith]

hey, ive completed the first 1-2 rundowns i think? but i guess ill wait when thier is someone looking for the easier or the intro rundowns

thank you for the info tho

[rose nova]

oh sorry

thought u meant new to the game ksmdkm

[mortal zenith]

technically still new to the game dw lol

[wide moss]

Playing with bots is so annoying because they can’t group up to kill something

I got to the end of the first mission just for a big guy to trigger and murder us

I was so close T-T

[rose nova]

damn qwq
well at leat they help for big guys if they wake up n stuff

but u will get it next time

[latent palm]

@rough willow

Add an ominous shadow above the sky

Insta more lore

[grim leaf]

i used smg paired with hel rifle on my last mission, worked well together

[manic spire]

Does anyone use the bat?

It seems like the worst melee

But I feel like there’s something I don’t know about it

That makes it special

[rose nova]

:[

i use bat

[pine root]

the people that use the bat want to be quirky ✨

[rose nova]

so real

[balmy moat]

I'm sad

My beloved bat

[manic spire]

How do I use it well

[balmy moat]

😩

[pine root]

you are correct with your first idea

[grim leaf]

bat has high stagger and high object damage

[rose nova]

like a mini knife but with less punishment if u always fail headshots

[pine root]

use it like a mini hammer

[rose nova]

u just go aimin at heads cause its pretty fast, and if u encounter a big u can rely on ur team or even just a bot to help u take it down

plus the stagger just makes it so if i fail the headshot, a lil charge on the head and its dead

[manic spire]

Can I 1v1 the giant?

[rose nova]

two hits, three if i am skill issued

[grim leaf]

bat can break locks in one hit without charging, and can break doors faster than other weapons

[latent palm]

@true pilot

[manic spire]

Like big guys

[latent palm]

bae

[rose nova]

its, harder than spear n hammer but u can, its just tricky to get the timings, but its prefectly plausible

[latent palm]

nice duo run lol

[rose nova]

just cause the stagger of the bat is a lil shorter unless u go for a limb, and u need a lot of hits

so u know what to hit n stuff n when to

[latent palm]

did you both just skip all resources and enemies till the class IV void?

[balmy moat]

Run wasn't optimized as much as we liked

Enemy RNG wasn't great

[latent palm]

1s saved

[balmy moat]

We got tired of resetting

[latent palm]

yeah

ikr

[manic spire]

How good is the stagger

[latent palm]

me and @light sigil had the best keycard spawn

and we just fucked it up by being blind AF

[balmy moat]

7 is better than 4

4 has more fucked enemy spawn

[latent palm]

we literally had 5 on door before class II

and nothing on the whole map

they were all stacked in keycard zone

[rose nova]

on smols u stagger with no charge hits; on bigs every full charge staggers, tho its a smaller stagger than a limb breakin

[latent palm]

how about

you go test it out your self

[balmy moat]

Bat > spear

Change my mind

[rose nova]

why would i

:3

[latent palm]

if spear gets the sprint like hammer

[rose nova]

the bat person agrees

[latent palm]

id change my mind

[pine root]

why dont we just make all the melees skins of the hammer

[latent palm]

full charge multi gets me act up

[manic spire]

I will I just want to ask about it I’m sorry for being annoying

[pine root]

would be a great idea

[latent palm]

no

[rose nova]

no its ok

[latent palm]

not that

damn

[rose nova]

u can ask as much as u want its fine

[latent palm]

why do i sound like the bad guy here

ffs

[pine root]

you are

[balmy moat]

Padlocks with bats >>>

[latent palm]

mf you kill me on extract 4 times

[pine root]

i dont shoot you

[latent palm]

YES YOU DID

[rose nova]

it was on self defence

[pine root]

pretty sure i dont

[latent palm]

stop cappin

[latent palm]

YES U DO

[manic spire]

I feel a bit bad I’m just sorta new to this game so I don’t want to waste anyone time with my dumb questions

[pine root]

we dont clear many levels together

[latent palm]

no

its okay to ask

[balmy moat]

Bat is better than spear trust, spear worst melee

[rose nova]

nah its fine, i asked way more stuff when i was new dont worry

[wraith marsh]

prolly deserved it

[vestal crystal]

PUB DOWN

[latent palm]

but testin it out is alot more helpful

[latent palm]

SEND PUBS

I NEED MORE MEAT SHIELDS

[grim leaf]

dont feel bad, there are many times i will spend hours with new players on the first level, just so they can ask questions and learn the basics and such, i find it fun seeing others get into a game im really into

[latent palm]

did a R4A3 100% with 30:13s pub

that or sub 25?

def gonna try it again today

[manic spire]

Oh alright I’ll ask more questions when I need to thank you

[grim leaf]

tbf, i am still quite new myself, but i have been learning a lot these past few weeks

[manic spire]

It’s just hard to find information online on this game I didn’t realize it was relatively small compare to other games sorta

[grim leaf]

a lot of people dont want to spoil the game for others, one youtuber i watch for info is professor scaler, i will play a level and afterwards watch his guide for that level to see if i could've done things differently, it can teach you mechanics of the game without spoiling since you have played that level already

[manic spire]

I just picked up this game when I saw this promotion for like

This cool mask

And I wanted it

So I played these 3 missions

To get it

[grim leaf]

XD i got this game when it went on sale in september

[manic spire]

But I’ve never play like

The regular rundowns

[rose nova]

so real, hey this outfit looks cool, ill give u 30 dollars for it

[manic spire]

It’s like this brown mask and gold

[grim leaf]

ive been wanting to play this game for like over 3 years and i finally got it less than a month ago lol

[manic spire]

It’s limited time or something idk

But I’m getting back into this game and kinda forgot most things

[grim leaf]

a lot has changed since it first came out

[timber tinsel]

@lethal palm Kuma Puuuuunch!

[manic spire]

I started in uhh

Rundown 6.5 I think

But I’m starting at 1 now

[grim leaf]

well, i was done for the night, but id be willing to play one mission if u need a player

[manic spire]

Oh no you’re fine

Me too

I just got to rundown 2

[grim leaf]

oh cool

[manic spire]

I finish the first level but

[grim leaf]

ive done most of r2

[manic spire]

I picked up disinfection pack

And had flashback

I forgot what infection does

But I know I need to use them lol

And I’m suspect

Rundown 2 is going to be hard

There’s so many missions

[rose nova]

infection :3 fun fun
yeah r2 is a big jump on the D tier levels

and well it has an, E1 so

hard

[manic spire]

Is it like fun hard

Or broken hard

[grim leaf]

O.o

[rose nova]

fun hard and broken hard, both KMSKDM
its defo a mission to have at least rundown 3 and some of the rest under ur belt

thats another thing if u get stuck

dont be afraid of just jumpin to the next rundown

[manic spire]

Isn’t there like a story though

[rose nova]

from r1 to r5 not really
u can find lore in terminals only

like in the logs that they store

but it is very complicated

and in r6 n r7 u can kinda guess, whats happenin

[manic spire]

Oh the mask I got was called twin blades

I’m hoping some of my experience on those missions help in rundown 2

…….

I forgot how to kill the spikey scout thing

[rose nova]

ah :3
i guess u mean, normal spike bois

[manic spire]

No not the uhh charger I think they’re called

[vagrant veldt]

Rush to R2C2, best missin that rundown.

[manic spire]

They’re like scouts but different

Like a harder scout lol

[grim leaf]

just did r2c2 earlier

[rose nova]

aah
those die with a 30 dmg gun to the back, like high cal sniper hel rifle and some shotties

they um

[vagrant veldt]

Charger scout. Foam it or 2 full charged hamme to the back within 0.5 second.

[rose nova]

also that skmdkm

but the two hammer/spear strat scares, me

but it is viable

[manic spire]

Ohhh yeah ok I remember I use foam gun but

Is it possible to do it with a boy

Bot*

The hammer thing

[rose nova]

um no

bots dont hit 'sleepin' enemies ever

they only go for the ones that are awake

and a scout is technically asleep, and when it wakes up its, invincible for a bit

[manic spire]

Damn

[rose nova]

so u can only foam em, but if a bot has the foam its just gonna be bad ksmdkm cause bots are a bit weird with foam

[manic spire]

Will there be those annoying aliens in rundown 2?

The flying things lol

[rose nova]

um no those appear much later

take into account

R1 came out in 2019, was the first full early access of the game

and then rundowns came out addin and addin and addin more enemies n stuff

so ur gonna see, the progression of how they were kinda added

[vagrant veldt]

I bought at R6 but only really played in R7, and once I finished they nbrought out R1. I thought it was gonna be superhard, so I got in the best players in my friends list. Finished the whole thing in like 2-3 hours. It was so easy.

[manic spire]

Ohh

[rose nova]

yep

r1 is easiest rundown skmdkm

[manic spire]

Rundown 1 was actually kind of hard for me

[vagrant veldt]

Well then R2 will be quite a step up.

[rose nova]

thas fairs for newer people is just hard ksmdkm

[vagrant veldt]

Especiall R2D2 and R2E1.

[manic spire]

Idk how I was able to do the hard missions I did when I started but struggle so much on the reactor mission in r1

[rose nova]

i didnt o a whole lot of r7 when i bought the game so r1 was, funky for me

c1 is the make or break for newies ksmdkm

[manic spire]

Is rundown 6 just easy?

[vagrant veldt]

My first clear ever was R7C1.

[grim leaf]

i heard r6 was the best for beginners, or is that not really true?

[manic spire]

Mine was r6bx

[vagrant veldt]

I would not say easy, but not hte hardest either.

[rose nova]

um kinda yes kinda not, some levels are easy, specially the startin ones but the difficulty kinda goes up fast on a curve

its easiest after, r1 and r3 i guess

kinda between there

[vagrant veldt]

The D ones can get hardcore.

[manic spire]

Oh yeah

[rose nova]

the d tiers are funny but gaddam

[manic spire]

The r6dx missions was so hard

I use cheese strat video I saw

To spawn cap the aliens

[rose nova]

damn

cheats

smh

skmdkm

[manic spire]

So I could finish the mission

I just wanted the mask lol

[sharp owl]

Shut ur mouth

[manic spire]

No it was like to sit in a room

[vagrant veldt]

Do it all sans fromage.

[manic spire]

And let them spawn and hover

So no regular enemies spawn and only the flying ones

[rose nova]

no i think ik ksmdkm think i remmeber it? kinda?

but makes sense like why but, well now its ur chance that its back again to do it for realsies

[manic spire]

Yeah I can’t wait

[rose nova]

hell yeh, u will get there and ur gonna do it first try ahre

[manic spire]

Are you able to do all missions with any load out also?

Or is there some super hard missions you really have to follow a guide

[rose nova]

um on guns kinda, i mean if u take 4 snipers, things are gonna go funky on missions, but there sso many rn u can play around a lot of em and beat it fine, and almost every gun servers a purpose and its usable

on tool tho its kinda more important, sometimes one sentry more or changin the mines and foam can do a lot

but usually its, pretty like, easy to see what u need for a mission

u see no doors and maybs long alarms, well sentries, if u see lot of doors and short-ish alarms well mines and foam

and all of that stuff

for some levels u can always check a guide tho but well its usually not hyper necessary unless ur, hard hard stuck

[manic spire]

I can’t wait to experience this r2d2 mission I keep hear about

[rose nova]

very funy very d2 ksmdkm

[manic spire]

What is ksmdkm

[balmy moat]

R2D2 ain't bad

Pretty fun but gotta make sure you keep on track

[rose nova]

um is just keysmashin its like a 'lol' but funk

[manic spire]

Oh lmao

Well thank you guys I appreciate it so much I’m going to head off to bed now

I’ll be sure to ask more questions when I hit the next wall

[surreal plaza]

oops all Hybrids

[rose nova]

okeee, good night :]

[rustic hinge]

Squad reached r4e1 so much fun so far

[mint light]

Glad you like it, it's a blast of a level

[rustic hinge]

had a few resets but we're on our second run past starting error

[mint light]

Good, that's where the hard part start. secondary

[high orchid]

the resets were just because of small fuckups early on like @autumn oak missing 3 sniper shots in a row on a roaring tank

[rustic hinge]

damn the callout lmfao

[thick temple]

not all of them lmao

[rose nova]

resetting cause of that seems weird lmao

[mint light]

tsa tss tss

[thick temple]

it was very first tank

[rose nova]

i would've had to reset every single time i play sniper

[thick temple]

figured might as well

and he was feelin unhappy about it lol

[rustic hinge]

it was at the very start and it turned to a clusterfuck very fast

[thick temple]

he usually has a much higher accuracy rate as well

[high orchid]

usually

[rose nova]

the defeat restart of i've been tryin this shit for hours, i see a tiny mistake i might as well start again

i've felt that hard on pizza tower

[mint light]

Altho sniper on R4E1 ..... sec is gonna be ammo hell. unless he goes codes

[high orchid]

he is

[thick temple]

that is what he is doing

[rustic hinge]

reactor part is pretty fun

run ended during the process of getting 4th code

[thick temple]

first run*

[rustic hinge]

yeah

we are at the sit and wait for turbine phase

[high orchid]

after he missed 7 sniper shots in a row on a sleeping snatcher

[thick temple]

he's just trying to anger him lol

[rustic hinge]

fake news

[thick temple]

true fake news

[autumn oak]

I take issue with this chat lmao

Lol I'm the guy with the sniper for a reason thats all I'm saying

[junior latch]

someone has to keep the team in check huh

[coarse grail]

You're doing fine Connor, keep it up!

[rustic hinge]

we wiped on the same code lmao

the most spectacular chain of events

[ionic pollen]

Talking of r4e1, what kind of loadouts you folks run if you're going for the secondary?

[coarse grail]

Pdw sniper for codes

[balmy moat]

Carbine, Hel Revo, Hel Gun for wave clear

Can work with machine gun too

[rustic hinge]

oh damn cant send screenshots in here

[ionic pollen]

Though so far we have been going at it duo w/bots which might change things a bit

[rustic hinge]

carbine/veruta, pdw/choke, ar/hel gun for our holds

[ionic pollen]

Double sniper would be nice for the muffin men but horrible for wave clear

[balmy moat]

AR is plain okay

[rustic hinge]

code finder has pdw/sniper

the ar guy is the floater unless we change plans

[balmy moat]

They're way better off using Carbine

[sharp siren]

people holding with a pr and a sniper

[rustic hinge]

i had my burst sentry down and our machine gun has bio and we held 3rd code waves duo pretty well when our floater was solving the complete disaster we ran into

[sharp siren]

people going for code a scater and whatever the other guy got

[balmy moat]

The floater should have weaponry that can get them out of tricky situations easier

Carbine just makes it easier

[rustic hinge]

we had probably the funniest fuck up sequence possible

[balmy moat]

But not necessary

[rustic hinge]

code guy went into 515, missed a frank and woke it up which killed him

floater went in and saved him

floater woke up a mom coming back to reactor room

[ionic pollen]

Though i suppose sniper for the holders wouldn't be too bad when ||the hybrids start spawning on the waves||

[rustic hinge]

babies woke up the room code guy was in and he went down again

floater died to mom

me and other holder killed mom, picked up floater then we got overwhelmed

[balmy moat]

Yea floater with an AR in that situation is a tough spot

Carbine is one of the best self-defense weapons

[vagrant veldt]

I love carbine, but it eats ammo.

[little ridge]

was it frank sinatra?

I miss him too sometimes

[balmy moat]

Eh not really

[ionic pollen]

I feel carbine is really good with ammo

[rustic hinge]

yeah

[little ridge]

I feel carbine is really good

[rustic hinge]

i like carbine a lot

[little ridge]

in r4e1 I'd rather pick up pdw

especially if I code hunt

[rustic hinge]

yeah our code hunter has pdw

[ionic pollen]

I gotta get more games in with the pdw

[rustic hinge]

and i run it too on wave holds

[ionic pollen]

Something about it's recoil and range throw me off

[little ridge]

we had me with something/pr and another with pdw/sniper code hunting

[vagrant veldt]

PDW is my choice, maybe HEL revolver, the light makes seeing things easy.

[little ridge]

while def had bio

[balmy moat]

PDW is hipfire king

Try not ADSing

[little ridge]

so we could do code hunt without it

[ionic pollen]

Will do thanks!

[rustic hinge]

how good of a strat is 2 code hunters until we get the 517 code?

[balmy moat]

It should be fine

After all you only need 1 person to hold wave and 1 person getting code at minumum

[little ridge]

for what it's worth we code hunted in 2 for all the reactor

[rustic hinge]

its after code 5 we get hybrids right?

[trim sail]

i guess you're talking about r4e1 secondary

[rustic hinge]

yeah

[trim sail]

hybrids show up in the last wave only

6th code

[rustic hinge]

waves while stealthing for 6th?

[trim sail]

yup

[rustic hinge]

aight

we have a mostly formed plan for it now next session we pray

maybe we can get past reactor if all goes well

[sharp siren]

are you splitting 2 and 2?

way easier

[rustic hinge]

yeah

2 and 2, waiting to enter 4th code until we have the 5th

[little ridge]

If the scouts spawned in different rooms in the last code just pull the room

[rustic hinge]

then since one code hunter has sniper i swap with him after 5th code

dont have to worry too much about infect since duo and turbine

[trim sail]

hunting code group can have 1 sniper acompany with you on the journey, then on the 6th code you can let the sniper go back to the front line and defend since you will have hybrids

[rustic hinge]

yeah

[thick temple]

That was exactly what we just discussed together lmao

[rustic hinge]

its just a matter of not having a spectacular collapse again

[thick temple]

Hopefully no one sprints through mom room again (cough hatsune cough)

[rustic hinge]

we can survive most things except that pretty much

[trim sail]

usually people will want to pull the last room for the 6th code

i just prefer to stealth it

cuz it seems a lot easier to do that

sometimes there's a flashlight you can use to sneak into that room, turn on the flash light a little bit then turn off to spot out enemies

[gusty burrow]

I'd say the most common strat is to plan to pull the first room, and then if the second room is pretty clear at the start you stealth the close terminal, if the second room is packed or it's not close terminal, you pull second room.

[late karma]

pdw just feels so good while code hunting

you can just scan your way to the terminals in one look

[late karma]

i usually always pull first room