gtfo-chat

[latent palm]

ive played with everyone here

atleast 3 times

[gritty scaffold]

goddamnn how many hours in this game do you have

[latent palm]

uhhhhh

how bout we keep that as a secret eh?

[gritty scaffold]

whut, you ashamed or sumthyin lmao

[latent palm]

hey now

just like you are socially awkard

i dont wana surprise you too much

[upbeat sail]

also how well can you go through r5d2 because the guy I normally play with cant keep up with me in the charger area and I just want r5e1 unlocked at this point

[latent palm]

me?

[upbeat sail]

yes

[latent palm]

sneak lol

you only have 1 guy go to that area

hence why PDW is OP

[upbeat sail]

oh I was using pdw on it just I never stealth reactor levels

[latent palm]

reactor waves on that level

i think they always spawn on spawn

the left door right to reactor sec door

its the nearest spawnpoint suitable for them

trust me

youre gonna do the same thing

on R7E1

[upbeat sail]

r7e1 I have unlocked but havent seen past the 1st alarm door

[latent palm]

[upbeat sail]

the group I played with tried it once and one guy hated it so much he isnt willing to do it again lol

[jade iron]

1st alarm door is one of the best alarms in the level though

after that alarm the level goes downhill until arena alarm

[latent palm]

sneak and sustain lol

[jade iron]

so maybe quitting at 1st alarm is the right move

[latent palm]

[upbeat sail]

is it still team scans all the way through because the issue was all 3 of us arnt coordinated enough to get on them at the same time with the tank

[jade iron]

1st alarm is alternating S scans (the team ones that downtick when not on them) and split red scans

[upbeat sail]

yeah that

[jade iron]

second alarm is an arena alarm, just survive in a room (ticks down if someone isn't in the room or goes down) for a set duration

off the top of my head I don't think there are any alarms in the level after that

[upbeat sail]

the rest of the level would probably go okish then

[jade iron]

eh, the rest of the level contains the main run-killers

but if your team just struggles to cocrdinate onto teamscans then I suppose, yeah

[jade iron]

I'm more positive on r7e1 than a lot of vets, but I can't defend pablo babysitting

[latent palm]

yea

thats really is boring for that 1 player

"would you care for a spot of tea Pablo?"

[jade iron]

main issue is having pablo accompany the team for all the clerical stuff

[little ridge]

read that as "struggles to crocodile onto teamscans"

[jade iron]

"hey can you ping the other ammo pack in the blood door zone? I'm gonna carry the cell over to the generator and get ready to start the arena scan" is not the most suspenseful thing to do while having an immortal enemy nipping at your heels

[stone marten]

Well at least my consistent failures on the reactor for R5B1 are getting slightly better each time 😥

[mint light]

It's the rest you should be worried about

For the first alarm just move pablo away from the scans (other side of the room) and then run to the scan. If he is already far when scan pops then do scan immediatly. the waves themselves are chill. Just don't spend too much time and you'll be golden

The hardest part is at the very very end. Start and mid of the level are the easiest parts

[mint light]

no alarms at all after the team scan . there are loud "events" tho. Just so he don't expect to just Stealth the rest of the level

[jade iron]

yeah we're not in spoiler chat, so I didn't give a blow-by-blow breakdown of the rest of the level

[mint light]

hence why I said events 😅

[sharp owl]

how do you effectively deal with mothers

[burnt flume]

Obliterate her immediately with something like a burst cannon, or kill the babies and chase after her while she's defenceless

[junior latch]

solo or as a team

[burnt flume]

Or cfoam and obliterate her

[sharp owl]

team

it feels like im running around like a headless chicken and not doing anything

[crimson oriole]

i usually stick her in a retirement home

[burnt flume]

Yeah that happens

[sharp owl]

how often does she fart and spawn babies

[burnt flume]

Fog idk, babies is like every minute or something

[sharp owl]

oh that's not that bad

60 seconds is a while

[burnt flume]

Yeah it's a lot of time

[wispy bluff]

Kill the baby wave, then back her up into a corner and go for the bubbles.

She will always try to backpadel straight away from you as if you were two opposing magnets. So just scare her into a wall, then surround her.

[upbeat sail]

bum rush and mag dump the tumors

[wispy bluff]

Unfortunately its next to impossible to deal damage to her if she's looking at you. Her stupid torso blocks the line of sight on the tubors, so you have to flank her, somehow. She's like a more panicky tank.

One of the easiest ways to defeat her it take the initiative, rush in and throw a cfoam grenade at her to freeze her - this usually gives just enough time to get the job done before the taws.

[upbeat sail]

its not nearly as bad as a tank since the tumors can still be hit from the front just its a bit awkward if she hides in a corner

[sharp owl]

oh by de wei
in r2e1 a scout can spawn in the first room, where the hell would the enemies spawn if it screamed? From the hole or just randomly in the room

[wispy bluff]

Another popular strategy is based on the fact that her spawning babies counts as a line-of-sight attack, so she NEEDS to see someone before she can do it. And she will try to get that line of sight.
So: the whole squad can hide behind a corner, and just sit and wait until she shyly comes in and takes a peek and then you just fuckin' jump her going straight for the tumors while 1 guy with a machine gun spawn camps the babies.

[upbeat sail]

side room or spawn room

[latent palm]

Got rushed

Had to leave

[burnt flume]

In one of the adjacent rooms

[upbeat sail]

[junior latch]

afaik its less

like between 20-40 ?

would guess 30-40 somewhere tho

[quasi condor]

Hello. I'm new to the game, anyone willing to show me the ropes? My friends kinda hate how punishing the game is

[junior latch]

also ye
Have someone focus babies (preferably with a gun that can kill them all) then have someone focus tumors (with smth heavy)

[latent palm]

Have fun

[wispy bluff]

I guess i could in like 15-20 minutes if you have the patience.
Alternatively you can post the same message on #lfg-beginners and i'm sure someone will pick up the call.

[upbeat sail]

r6 and r7 have checkpoints too if that gets them to play it

[quasi condor]

I only manage to push them to R1B1 before quitting lol

[upbeat sail]

lol

[burnt flume]

I think pmom is 28

[upbeat sail]

I have yet to actually kill one of those

[junior latch]

[blissful dome]

scatter

:D

[dull mauve]

any one here have craked version ???

[tardy dawn]

GTFO's first trailer was released on December 8, 2017. GTFO went into early access on December 9, 2019. GTFO was released from early access on December 10, 2021. The latest, Rundown 8, guess when it's coming out? That date is pretty soon)

[wispy bluff]

Why some rundowns are different colours...

[mint light]

They are still harder rundowns than R1. terrible terrible idea

[true pilot]

especially R7

[wispy bluff]

Also it will teach them to rely on checkpoints and they will be mega mad when the other 5 don't have any

[mint light]

Not the smartest discord to ask m8

[visual lily]

how 2 download hack

[sharp owl]

wemod

[mint light]

Yep. players relying on checkpoints are basically handicapped when playing R1 - R5

[wispy bluff]

Rundowns 1, 2, 3 and 6 are generic light blue...
Rundown 4 starts generic white, then turns green, then white again, then turns red - not seen ANYWHERE ELSE...
Rundown 5 starts as a unique cyan blue and then turn green right at the end...
And Rundown 7 starts generic white and slowly turns dirty sand yellow.

Can't tell if just random aesthetics of UI designers or there's a hidden message in there somewhere

[mint light]

Random aesthetics

we know the devs just yolo everything

like glowstick inconsistencies

[upbeat sail]

the A1s are a bit less intense due to being lit brighter

[wispy bluff]

I would try to guess that green might represent presence of infection, but i don't remember the level to confirm that suspicion.

[mint light]

Yep R6A1 and R7A1 are the easiest levels it's still a noobtrap as they both get way harder than R1

[little ridge]

I think R7A1's probably the easiest

[upbeat sail]

yeah dont do the entire rundown just I can see starting them off there then swapping over to r1 helping a bit

[little ridge]

I dont really know

I'd rather just people start with r1a1 anyway

Ultimately, there's nothing that you learn just by "ehi I finished R7A1"

So what gives? they might aswell start with r1a1

R7B1, checkpoints not counter, is still harder than both r1b1-b2

[upbeat sail]

they said they hated how punishing it is which the checkpoints negate a bit

[little ridge]

Yes, but, "then swapping over to r1"

At that point...

[junior latch]

r1a1 is a good beginner mission especially due to no checkpoints

[little ridge]

Might aswell just deal with r1 to begin with?

[upbeat sail]

I mean they said they where doing that then they didnt want to continue it

[little ridge]

Which are the "We're stuck" levels usually?

[junior latch]

wdym sleepo?

[little ridge]

R1C1, R2C2 (and onwards), R3C1...

[little ridge]

levels where newbies usually get stuck on

[upbeat sail]

early reactors, perma errors, and anything that introduces a boss enemy

[little ridge]

Cause I think the latest in a rundown is probably R2's

[junior latch]

usually

R1C1, R1C2 (rarely R1D1)
R2C1, R2D1, R2D2 (i dont count R2E1 )
R3C1
R4 and R5 rarely get played by beginners, heck even R3 is honestly rare
R6C1 was bad back in the day, dunno about now
R7C1 for sure

[mint light]

Yeah but then they got R7A1 and R6A1 and then they are done

[junior latch]

and honestly

[mint light]

Checkpoints are a False safety net in this game

[junior latch]

the R1 levels are mostly because its often true beginners who dont strategize/test stuff

R1C1 is planning ahead with ressources and loadout
R1C2 is planning ahead with terminals and where to go

[little ridge]

I think the issue with r1c2 is more about them not knowing how to bonk chargers rather than doing it the "hardest" route

[mint light]

Which we have seen after Bricky did all mains in R7 it is still not a skill his team has

[burnt flume]

R1C2 is functionally a harder R1B1

although you'd get punished for bad pathing more

[upbeat sail]

I dont remember the B tiers being that bad

[burnt flume]

other than that, eh

[mint light]

Because got handholded through R7 with False info but ... nevertheless

[mint light]

Not for US no

[junior latch]

just wanted to ask

if he got carried through R7

[little ridge]

R6B2 had some newbies stuck on og because they kept spamming fog repellers like idiots

[junior latch]

wait who put out false info to him?

[upbeat sail]

when I first got the game I was put into r7 first because the friend wanted to clear it

[mint light]

Hmmm pretty much his team was kinda trash

refused any PE

[junior latch]

that is not trash

lol

thats what beginners should be doing

[mint light]

They were also saying stuff like PE is doing a full objective run without dying

[junior latch]

yea but WHO

was it a random team of friends?

[little ridge]

It is what beginners should be doing indeed, albeit I'm more inclined towards that not being the case anymore since you get all rundowns to play now

[mint light]

and tons and tons of misinformation just look back at the vids

[junior latch]

or someone carried him from the server who is kinda meh knowledge wise?

[burnt flume]

if they mean dying as in wiping, then sure why not

[mint light]

from his discord

[burnt flume]

although checkpoints

[stray raft]

Well if they count everyone going down as dying then they're not wrong

[mint light]

Nah his discord

[junior latch]

iirc his video was decent, had some obvious missinfo you get when you are new

like "its barely doable as a 3 man"
thats just inexperience

ah ok

[mint light]

They are, R7 has checkpoints

[mint light]

Yes HIS vid was decent

You'd need to check the full gameplay vids from stream

[junior latch]

its actually interesting, when you watch bigger streamers streaming gtfo you usually see some of their viewers who play/ed the game but are very inexperienced putting out missinfo

[mint light]

Cause he researcher

[junior latch]

i watch his streams

at least R1

[mint light]

The R7 ones

[junior latch]

didnt R7 back then sadly

[burnt flume]

The prisoners have no free will and are being remote controlled by the wardens brainchips

[mint light]

His R1 runs are good just it shows there is still lacking knowledge of querying etc

[junior latch]

mostly stuff like "cfoam is insane for R1C1" 💀

poor bricky

[burnt flume]

who are you are even talking about here

[junior latch]

that guy in chat baited them so hard

Bricky, pretty big streamer/youtuber

[burnt flume]

ah yeah, him

[junior latch]

made a video about gtfo and currently streams it mostly every friday

[mint light]

Bricky is an amazing youtuber

[sharp owl]

r2e1 is slightly cancerous

[mint light]

but he just got got

[sharp owl]

shadow stealth

[junior latch]

"stealth"

gun -> shoot

[sharp owl]

ammo: none

hotel: trivago

[junior latch]

huh

[burnt flume]

what missions do I think of when I hear shadow stealth

[junior latch]

theres a lot of ammo in the level

[little ridge]

That's my reaction to all of those "famous streamer" tbh

[mint light]

Pew pew pew. or 4 hammers and weeeeeeeeee

[burnt flume]

probably r5d1 and r4e1

[upbeat sail]

I had another friend who refused to use anything but machinepistol / precisicion rifle / cfoam regardless of the level

[sharp owl]

we're trying to melee it

[junior latch]

R7C3 if you dot secondary

[upbeat sail]

and he ragequit the entire game

[little ridge]

X IS BIG ON BILIBILI GUYS

ARE YOU X? MAAAN I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS

[junior latch]

lol

[burnt flume]

when the bilibili is too hard destiny 2 gif

[little ridge]

It's all so tiresome

I remember playing with a guy who was streaming once, in r1c1

[upbeat sail]

this was on the alt/5 version of those guns to be clear

[mint light]

well that's easy then

[little ridge]

As soon as some viewers started chatting he basically just talked with them

[mint light]

4 peeps on shadow giant = giant ded

[little ridge]

I get that it's not a map with a lot to do but heck

[mint light]

But you can see there was some handholding in R7 as there is just some things they just don't do/know yet. which is fine

He plays games in depth he will figure out

[junior latch]

even then

1. why be so forced into smth like that. A friend of mine "only" plays sniper (he played it in og r4 and og r2 where it was ASS) but he switches off when he feels like its an actual detriment (like r2e1). He does play bio always, but thats bio so
2. why quit over that?

[upbeat sail]

oh his reason for quitting was "the guns suck"

[junior latch]

yea
Its obvious when you watch him play

He did get a bit of missinfo and is in the "game is scary" phase where he doesnt know much yet
but he plays and thinks of stuff when he can

[junior latch]

did he... try other stuff?

[mint light]

tried only 2 guns .... guns suck. makes sense

[upbeat sail]

no and he refused to awnser whenever I told him the other guns where better

[mint light]

I have full confidence in the guy. he is very very good

Can't wait to see him on R2E1

[junior latch]

do you still have contact with him?

[upbeat sail]

no lol like 3 months later he unadded everyone in that friend group randomly

[mint light]

If so: Block him

[mint light]

Ah well it sorted itself out that's a HARD ragequit tho

[junior latch]

dude is a walking L

i know we meme about people who quit the game (for whatever reason) to be removed from friendlists
but thats actually such a meme moment

[upbeat sail]

pretty much

[mint light]

Meme?

want to see my blocklist?

[little ridge]

good take, ngl

[junior latch]

im happy my friends all quit due to understandable reasons and not that lol

[little ridge]

block everyone, dna

they dont deserve an ounce of attention

[mint light]

It's empty 😂

[junior latch]

1 guy SUCKS at anything scary, so he quit after R4A-B tiers
another found stealth awful (he has bad attention span and only plays League/csgo)
the last found it a bit slow at times but also didnt outright quit, he just said hed join if needed

2 others still play

[mint light]

I like the trolling tho

[burnt flume]

quitting because you don't mesh well with the game is understandable tbh

[little ridge]

I mean, if you dont like the game you dont like the game

I'm impressed whenever I see 4-stacks that all started playing together

and still play

[latent palm]

@junior latch

WESLIEY IS GTFO-ING

GET HIM

[junior latch]

wat

[latent palm]

keel him

[sharp owl]

surge alarms are poopoo

more like kite alarms

[mint light]

So many try to change the game to so.ething they like tho ...

[mint light]

There is no kiting on the 2nd one

[sharp owl]

i know

its bs

[mint light]

1st depends on spawns

[mint light]

3rd no kiting, 4th no kiting, 5th no kiting

Just shoot

[junior latch]

1st, shoot when on scan
move when not

[sharp owl]

its so simple just shoot

[junior latch]

2nd, same thing, but kill hybrids whenever you can

[sharp owl]

just simply shoot them

[junior latch]

its litteraly just the thing tho

[sharp owl]

aaaaaaaaa

[latent palm]

easy

[mint light]

Well yeah, how you think we do it??

[junior latch]

unless you run bullpup and precision rifle or smth lol

[latent palm]

just shhot lol

[little ridge]

how do you all know what map he's talking about?

[latent palm]

surge are easy till you have to choose between contestin or runnin away

[mint light]

cause he said he was on R2E1

[little ridge]

El Spear Attacks, which map is it?

[latent palm]

literally in a vc with status "R2E1+code"

[sharp owl]

r2e1

[latent palm]

but you might have been late lol

[mint light]

easiest E btw. now make up for yourself what that means for the rest 😅

[sharp owl]

it means i'll get carried through them

[mint light]

New players nowadays 🥹

Couple tries and you got it down. Come on bruv

[upbeat sail]

tbh I found r2e1 easier then d2

[latent palm]

new players nowadays

[junior latch]

improve, adapt, overcome

[sharp owl]

i need thermal vision

[junior latch]

you dont

[mint light]

Nope

[sharp owl]

yes i do

[latent palm]

[mint light]

you dont

[latent palm]

you dont lol

[sharp owl]

i am too poopoo dooky to see them

[mint light]

Stop ceutching yourself

[junior latch]

learn how to spot them with flashlights

thats 1 thing to learn

[latent palm]

yeah

shadows takes a turn to learn

[sharp owl]

but how do you see them with flashlights in stealth without waking them

[mint light]

It's just the ONE part don't handicap yourself for when the hard part comes

[sharp owl]

i was relying on sound but that's still not great

[latent palm]

thats where fast stealth moves in

[junior latch]

if you clear R2E1 without being carried (or in a giga stacked group generally) then ya past the point of average

[mint light]

you are focussing too much on one thing

[latent palm]

truely

[junior latch]

and again, you dont need to stealth much in R2E1

you can mine doors

shoot stuff

then loot well

the surge alarms are mostly just good prep and moving whenever a scan is done

[charred ember]

what if u somehow solo r2e1

[mint light]

Except the doors from B to A. keep those for the surge !!!

[upbeat sail]

you have to hold it on them for a few seconds for them to actually wake

[junior latch]

yea not gonna be done without kiting

[mint light]

With vanille bots? you a god

With better bots ... meh

[latent palm]

real

[junior latch]

better bots solo that

[little ridge]

With better bots it's a walk in the park

[junior latch]

thugernaut did it in what? 32 min yesterday with them

thats 4 minutes off of my fastest no cfoam clear

[little ridge]

They delete the waves

It's like I barely shot

I pulled all the shadows

It's literally just walking and shooting

[mint light]

Also the surges on R2E1 aren't that bad first tried duo'd the first surge With a brand New player

[little ridge]

I had the same impression on R4B1 Extreme with better bots

[mint light]

So if he can do it.....

[little ridge]

I barely had to shoot the waves

[sharp owl]

wtf

how

[mint light]

By shooting

Like what you want me to say???

[upbeat sail]

eh they are a lot worse in pubs due to how often you end up in lobbys with bad latency

[mint light]

First and last time I played with the dude

[little ridge]

To be fair, better bots showed me that if you're cracked at aiming you get away with a lot of shit

[burnt flume]

yeah that's how the game works

unfortunately you can still get stuck in bad situations where you need something other than aiming

[upbeat sail]

im only talking about them being able to hit you from twice the normal range if the connection is bad

[charred ember]

idk about better bot, my pc doesnt like modded gtfo

[mint light]

Ah yeah

fair

[charred ember]

it just crash like my discord and background stuff when i play modded gtfo for some reason

[latent palm]

im giving weapon advice to 4 japanese gamer girls on twitch lol

[charred ember]

which is annoying since i usually streaming my play with my friends, cuz they like to see me suffer

[upbeat sail]

might want to ask about that in the modding discord because that shouldnt be happening

[latent palm]

this shit fun when you have a language barrier

[little ridge]

you needo to tako the hello revolvaaah

[latent palm]

hey

thats the same thing i said

they made it far

R3B1 extract

but they left 2 others to die lol

[burnt flume]

why does it matter if they're girls?

[latent palm]

wanted to be specific

cant just be sexist now cant i?

[little ridge]

girls get +50% viewers bonus, they buffed it in the last patch

[latent palm]

Trueeee

[sharp owl]

because twitch is rwitch

[burnt flume]

what about NBs

wait is that why gerz has more viewers than me

[charred ember]

How do ppl even survive a surge alarm on their own?

[latent palm]

now u see

[sharp owl]

female voice -> more views

[sharp owl]

magic

[burnt flume]

shooting well + repositioning

[sharp owl]

man i want so badly for the mastaba revolver to have a better flashlight

[upbeat sail]

normally kiting or delaying it somehow from videos I watched on it

[junior latch]

getting the voice changer rdy

[sharp owl]

yeah you're set

you have a cute anime avatar

all that's missing is the voice

[latent palm]

i wish

[little ridge]

kawaii uguuuuu

[latent palm]

thats why first time seeing eva i also thought he was a she

[little ridge]

join the anime pfp gang, elbow

[sharp owl]

yup

[latent palm]

oh you did too?

[sharp owl]

ye

[junior latch]

heck artek still calls me a she like 80% of the time

[latent palm]

man i might turn me into a girl

on november

[burnt flume]

artek calls me "demon girl", I think because I kept changing my username

[latent palm]

HAH

glad he doesnt call me Pablo

[charred ember]

i got mistook for a girl before

and im not using my mic for like a whole year becuz of that

[sharp owl]

guy took 10d12 psychic damage

[burnt flume]

I used to get mistaken for a girl

then hormone stuff happened

[sharp owl]

naturally

[latent palm]

real

Pachi 1 year ago:

Pachi now

[burnt flume]

nah, we're talking longer than 1 yr

also fuck looking hypermasculine and being built like a bag of bricks

[latent palm]

real

so whatchu look like

[sharp owl]

oh wait you're taking roids

[latent palm]

i think i have emojis to fit that

[burnt flume]

nah, I'm good

[latent palm]

you know what

[upbeat sail]

isnt that like half of this games dev team

[latent palm]

FUCK YOU

GET CHRISTMASED BITCH

[little ridge]

I dont think you DONT have an emoji to fit a situation

or a gif

[latent palm]

counter point

cat stickers always win

now stfu and enjoy this

Holy

the japanese Vtubers are holding out really well

Class IV apex and Class III with no tool

changed weapons and BOOM

results

WOAH

THEYRE GOING STRAIGHT FOR THE OTHER CLASS III without any resources

and they win

im so proud

[formal blade]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-angry-cat-mad-cat-mad-death-stare-gif-2007099240114134459

[latent palm]

no image/gif perms

[upbeat sail]

vtubers always freaked me out for some reason

[latent palm]

you mean Eva freaks you out?

Yo @junior latch

say somethign spooky

[junior latch]

booh

[latent palm]

so scary

[upbeat sail]

the 2d ones arnt as bad though yeah it still makes the videos weird to look at for me

[latent palm]

oh no

they died on uplink

[upbeat sail]

f

[latent palm]

thats so sad

she got blown by the mine

[latent palm]

its been 2:32hrs

they have not beatn R3B1 yet

[trim heath]

oof

at least last night we spent 2:30 on r5e1 and got to the last surge before dying

might have been a bit more

[sharp owl]

why does the carbine get so much damage per refil

and why am i talking about this

where am i

[rose nova]

why are u in my house

[sharp owl]

does pistol get better ammo usage than the hel revolver excluding collaterals because of breakpoints or something

[wispy bluff]

RIP.

[trim heath]

it was a good run

we shoulda died many times

[broken rain]

I was doing R1 last night with bots to try different weapons and I couldn't get the feel for hte pistol. It felt like the damage wasn't there even against small enemies.

[rose nova]

pistol is onehedshot two body shots if im not wrong

and onebodyshot staggers so for medium range or levels w/o tons of combat is nice

[broken rain]

Good to know.

Stagger and stun are really important in the new Starship troopers game. It took me a while to figure out that was the primary appeal of the pistols in that game.

It's a big factor in Darktide, too, come to think of it. The little machine pistol has low damage per hit and stagger per hit, but it fires so fast the stagger stacks up and can stagger even the biggest ai.

Ima have to try different weapons some more.

[rose nova]

yeh all weapons pretty much have a use or a somethin to make em usable
machinepistol is funny thats my reasoning, but most of the time i go pistol or rifle for semis, and for autos smg or pdw cause they comfy

i need to expand more on my usage of guns, i need to nab some of em more often like carbine or hel shottie

[sharp owl]

actually

actually

would hel autopistol be good for r2e1

because of all the surge alarms

don't kill, stagger

No

It's garbage

:(

Just get hel shotgun

what's so wrong with it by the way

[latent palm]

Wha

[sharp owl]

Barely kills
Also a hassle to balance any gun with it

what about autosentry instead of burst

since killing them is pointless

[sharp siren]

hel autopistol its nice on r2e1

more of a teamplay gun

just bring a combat shotgun for when you wanna kill

or any mg

and your good to go

[latent palm]

Like BD said

Rather you with a Hel auto pistol

Than a 6use consumed tool refill good for nothing sentry

[sharp owl]

I need an autosentry waifu pillow so i can hug it and tell it everything will be ok

someday this will be good

[sharp siren]

its good for regular alarms

you want autopistol to stal the enemies whent hey cluster infront and to make moves in between scans

autosentry its good to delay the waves on a normal alarm to prevent more from spawning

[wraith marsh]

This is never the correct mentality for surges

Always kill

[latent palm]

The best stagger is a dead guy

It cant move it cant hurt you

[wraith marsh]

^

as well, any weapon that is killing them is also staggering them just from the damage

[sharp siren]

I dunno man

1 shot stagger on like most things with helpp its good

[vernal acorn]

hello

[sharp siren]

goodbye

[vernal acorn]

does anyone need a third just bought the game

[sharp owl]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[vernal acorn]

having trouble doing it with ai

[sharp owl]

Don't unless u got no friends and have #PMA in your forehead

[upbeat sail]

well I managed to brute force through it then died to the 3 tanks I didnt know existed after

[mint light]

And now you know 😃

Go again

I'm sure your friend will keep up in R5E1 btw

[upbeat sail]

Im not touching that thing again without a full group now lol

[mint light]

Lel

If you think R5E1 will be nicer 😏

[latent palm]

Where

[upbeat sail]

how long is it because my issue is how much stuff you have to go through to get to the escalating bullshit on r5d2

[mint light]

2 hours/2.5 hours

[latent palm]

Im missin alot of context here

[mint light]

Or cell skip take it to 40-30

[upbeat sail]

you said to stealth through r5d2

[latent palm]

Yeah one player lol

[mint light]

But length is not the issue on R5E1 it's a very good level

[upbeat sail]

oh no stealth happened just mass amounts of scattergun usage

[latent palm]

Eh

Shit happens

But you pulled through right?

Right….?

[upbeat sail]

uh no I was doing it solo with bots, if I knew the level had tanks I wouldnt have attempted it like that to begin with

[mint light]

READ. he wiped

[latent palm]

Huh

Didnt know R5D2 had tanks

[wraith marsh]

the ending sequence

[upbeat sail]

it spawns 3 after the reactor ends and I could only kill 1 of them

[wraith marsh]

youre supposed to run from them

[latent palm]

Oh they spawn in

Guess when i played we ran so fast

[wraith marsh]

yeah

[upbeat sail]

if I had remembered to cheese the bots back alive I could have

[wraith marsh]

thats what youre supposed to do

if you dont know the tank spawn noise

you can run fast enough to never even see them

and therefore not know what tf happens

[upbeat sail]

I heard it, ran, got to the first scan, completed it, the bots lagged behind and got smacked, which then blocked the 2nd scan

and I then had to loop all the way back and try to kill them with 3 turrets I had placed earlier

[latent palm]

Let me guess

It didnt went out so well

[upbeat sail]

I had 25 health for all of that so pretty much

1 still got killed by sniper turrets somehow

[sharp owl]

5 🙂

[upbeat sail]

[grim leaf]

tip: dont get hit

health doesnt matter

[latent palm]

Yeah true

Its a skill issue when you get aimbotted by 3 tanks

[grim leaf]

health is for when im like 5 shots in and cant dodge for shot

[upbeat sail]

you cant dodge tank hits unless theres a physical wall blocking it and even then it will curve around and hit you anyway sometimes

[grim leaf]

it has a range limit tho right?

[latent palm]

Nope

[wraith marsh]

it wont curve around

[sharp owl]

nope

[wraith marsh]

thats just lag

[grim leaf]

damn

[latent palm]

It literally can hit you from 50m away

Trust me

[sharp owl]

range check

[grim leaf]

well, ive never fought a tank before, so ill have to live and learn

[wraith marsh]

the tank wont queue an attack on you from further than 15m

but once it does

it has no range limit

[latent palm]

It will connect if you have nothing to block

[latent palm]

Still

If youre the aggroed target

It will hit you no matter what

[heady peak]

can someone help me what is a V M alarm is?

[latent palm]

Class 5 mixed

Depends on a level

[upbeat sail]

its designed to be borderline impossible to kill without people coordinating to kill it or extreme cheese tactics of getting it stuck and shooting from above it

[grim leaf]

technically, VM means 995 right?

[heady peak]

Idk what that means?

[upbeat sail]

which I have no clue where you would do that on that level

[latent palm]

It could be full team/red quad/red big/clutser/full team/S scan

[heady peak]

Ahh

[latent palm]

Its a mixture between all alarms

[heady peak]

i might die lmao cuz im playing with botz

[thick hatch]

does anyone know what the mod that lets you ping anything is called?

[latent palm]

No surge included

[latent palm]

Pingeverywhere

Dingus

[thick hatch]

ty!

[upbeat sail]

cluster with bots slows you down a lot but they can handle the others fine

[latent palm]

They dont lol

If anything

Its fast

[upbeat sail]

orange cluster not red

[heady peak]

Wish me luck im abt the start it B)

[latent palm]

The quad reds that moves away

Now thats

The issue with bots

[latent palm]

Clusters stay together

Even if they move far

There is still literally 3-4 of them stack together

Thats what a cluster is called lol

[upbeat sail]

ive seen them go across entire rooms before

[latent palm]

Yes

But its only 1-3 of it

Not all of it

Cluster scans goes as far as 1/3 the way of a full team surge length

[upbeat sail]

probably just feels worse with how often they like to throw them in rooms with elevation changes

[latent palm]

See?

Its not the length

[upbeat sail]

which bots suck at navigating quickly

[latent palm]

But its the speed that it renders a scan

It needs to hit a turn point then hit its destination to pop up

[thick hatch]

are most people fine with others using brighter lights mod or is it too game changing?

sorry ive just started to delve into mods but i dont want to get into trouble

[trim heath]

generally if you have to ask people will be not in agreement

[sharp owl]

its actually cursed dont do it

[trim heath]

is my rule of thumb tbh

I dont care if people ping anywhere, dont lose boosters, or can stack supplies, doesnt bother me so I dont ask people to not use them, esp since one of those three you literally will not be able to tell prob

[sharp owl]

i tried it and it makes game look worse

[thick hatch]

would you guys be able to recommend a few small quality of life mods that arent too much?

[trim heath]

the only mod I actually have is perfect boosters, but I have yet to actually use it because lmao I dont use boosters

[upbeat sail]

im pretty sure theres no rule against it just people will harshly judge your visual taste

[sharp owl]

yes thats fine

[latent palm]

Brighter lights

Makes your gameplay looks like shit

[thick hatch]

understood xD

anyhow ill keep searching in the mod list for now, ty guys

[upbeat sail]

ChatterReborn

[thick hatch]

thats probably even worse

[latent palm]

Did you beat all the game?

If not

Then no mods for u

[thick hatch]

i have not no

[latent palm]

Finish em

[thick hatch]

:')

[latent palm]

Dont just ram mods in lol

[thick hatch]

T^T yessir

[sharp owl]

based advice

dont ruin the vanilla experience

[thick hatch]

i mostly came for a visual mod but thought i would get a couple quality of life as well while im at it :')

[latent palm]

I will bomb your trailer house if you do mods before finishing the vanilla game

[thick hatch]

[latent palm]

[thick hatch]

someone had told me about a visual mod that just put back the beta game graphics

they showed it to me and i found the ambiance looked much cooler but i dont know which one it was

[upbeat sail]

I think its oldschoolgraphics?

[latent palm]

Old school graphics

And or oldmap ambiance

[thick hatch]

tysm guys

[latent palm]

Remember

No mods before vanilla is finished

[true pilot]

he will bomb your house

[latent palm]

Or i will hunt you down

[true pilot]

happened to me once

not fun

i died in that bombing

[latent palm]

Obama once said: “let me be clear”

[sharp owl]

listen out for any talking trees

[true pilot]

we need napalm on that village

[latent palm]

As he sticks his daughters boyfriend in the tablet sayin: “is this your house”

Preparing a drone strike

[thick hatch]

so even just playing with those three mods is off limits? (chatterreborn, pingeverything, oldschoolgraphics)

[latent palm]

Yes

[thick hatch]

ok

[latent palm]

At minimal

Chatter reborn

[thick hatch]

oldschoolgraphics?

[latent palm]

Is acceptable

[sharp owl]

not allowed

[latent palm]

Anything more than that gets you expelled from life

[thick hatch]

i can skip pingeverything for sure

[latent palm]

Sure if you want your game to looks like a dark piece of shit that has 200% bloom

[upbeat sail]

just whatever you do, do not install a mod called fatal_experiment_2

[latent palm]

Do not

[thick hatch]

bloom?

[latent palm]

Yes bloom

Wow

You should be shameful

work so hard for those intros

[thick hatch]

F

im so sorry

alright

[latent palm]

Dont be

Just have fun

[thick hatch]

you dont need to bomb my house

ill blow it up myself

[latent palm]

Enjoy your last few days

[thick hatch]

have a wonderful evening

[latent palm]

A predator missle have been launched

[true pilot]

damn

[thick hatch]

[latent palm]

Hehe

Wdwrm ghost pinged

This gonna be fun

[true pilot]

whats he gonna do

ban you

[upbeat sail]

hes going to mail you gtfo diaper merch as punishment

[latent palm]

If you’re wondering where to push further in real QoL mods

Then go to #hc-modded

[true pilot]

he will send a lore accurate pablo plushy to your location

[thick hatch]

oh, im really sorry about that

[latent palm]

There you will have the same ppl such as me and alot of other ppl modding

[latent palm]

[thick hatch]

i had looked at the channels but i thought i hadnt seen a channel for mod discution

[latent palm]

I meant was

[thick hatch]

[latent palm]

Real QoL

Like literally based and helpful QoL mods

[upbeat sail]

its cause they didnt want it talked about the server at all until recently

[latent palm]

You know TF2

Yeah me neither

[upbeat sail]

fort or fall

[latent palm]

But modding let the game lived for over a decade now

I see no problem there

But if GTFO is to move up

We first must get out image/GIF perms from @hollow quarry

RISE BROTHERS

WE WILL TAKE BACK OUR IMAGE PERMS

SO THAT EVEN THOSE WITHOUT NITRO CAN ALSO POST FUNNY CAT GIFS

AND STORM 10CC FOR R8

[grim leaf]

where do i post funny cat gifs?

[latent palm]

You cant

[sharp owl]

#gtfo-media

[burnt flume]

cats are overrated

[grim leaf]

i will dm them

[burnt flume]

overrepresented too

[latent palm]

The fuq u say

You mean to say

This thing

Is overrated

[grim leaf]

cats are literally the guardians to the afterlife!?!?!?

[burnt flume]

all cats are bastards

[upbeat sail]

you must gift them nitro so they can

[latent palm]

I will bomb your backyard

[sharp owl]

someone got bitten before

[burnt flume]

hah, I don't have a back garden!

[latent palm]

Then…

[burnt flume]

I don't think I've been bitten by a cat, they're just annoying things

and the internet culture around them is annoying too

[latent palm]

The 12 claymores placed in his kitchen:

[grim leaf]

🤯

[sharp owl]

just get a cat

[burnt flume]

No

[latent palm]

Lol

[burnt flume]

I don't want a pet, I especially don't want a cat, I don't have a space for a pet, I wouldn't be allowed one with where I am living, and it'd be too expensive to justify

[upbeat sail]

do not it will destroy your house and its 50/50 on if it will maul you if you try petting it

[burnt flume]

whatever you say, cats will still suck

[latent palm]

Yeah

[latent palm]

Even this one?

But he so cheap

So cute and low resed

[sharp owl]

if you are feeding em manufactured cat food then yes its expensive cuz it makes em hungry all the time

[latent palm]

I feed my pets

The souls

Of the rats they let go

Because of their weakness to not catch them

Making sure they will switch places if they dont behave

From that point on there has not been a single turd in my whole house

Except the bathroom

[upbeat sail]

why does your house have rats

[latent palm]

Its asia

Thats the quickest way to put it

[upbeat sail]

right you dont have 50bmg ratshot there

[latent palm]

Yea we dont shoot our rats here

We torture them

And free the rest so they tell the story

Works like a charm every 3 generation of rats

[upbeat sail]

[livid gulch]

every third generation of GTFO players are only okay at the game

[latent palm]

Real

So which gen you sitting at

[grim leaf]

i will prove u wrong :v idk what gen i am tho

[latent palm]

Latest

[grim leaf]

ye, what gen is that? alt r6 gen?

r7 gen?

[sharp owl]

I am exhausted

we did r2e1 up to the final door

we died

[grim leaf]

XD

[sharp owl]

man this game tires you out

[junior latch]

F

its just the build up to when you clear

[gray pilot]

Foam the ladder

[sharp owl]

we did

[grim leaf]

die or not, i still have fun with this game

[burnt flume]

Oh no

[gray pilot]

Use game enhancers

[wispy bluff]

I know, right? My work shift doesn't tire me as much as one of the longer levels around here

[sharp owl]

also i think i need to wait for my new pc

during that final part of e1 i was gaming on 30fps

maybe lower at times

error alarm gets bad after a while

[latent palm]

Eh

It really don’t

[sharp owl]

it was like 20 sleepos

[latent palm]

But it does

When you run out of ammo

Cant sustain to sit on that lovely choke point to 1 man army the error wave

While team grab cell and prep for last cluster

[sharp owl]

thank god i took high cal because trying to aim anything else on low fps would not be ok

high cal slapped

[grim leaf]

hell yeah

[latent palm]

Aight

Time to go bed

Finally

[grim leaf]

gn o/

[sharp owl]

why are error alarms a thing

how many billions of sleepers are in the damn complex

like eventually they're gonna run out

the error alarm isn't playing on every single section of the complex, eventually the areas where it's audible are going to run out of sleepers

[junior latch]

you rarely kill over 200 enemies in an error even in the longer ones

[timber tinsel]

Is there a lore reason why when enemies are awake, they just always know exactly where you are whenever?

[junior latch]

dont think so

that seems to just be gameplay

[vestal crystal]

they can smell your blood like mosquitos

they want to suck it

[gray pilot]

I disagree. We simply haven’t found the important E-Mail hidden on a terminal log that explains to us why there are so many of these sleepers chasing us after the ladder foam ran out. There must be a Scaeffer audio log or something like that in rundown 8.

[sharp owl]

well because they use sonar

their perception is superhuman if you think about it

they can tell apart ambient light from flashlight light

they can tell apart humans from sleepers

and noise

and scouts the same on feelers

my headcanon is that blood doors is what happens when sleepers accidentally wake up each other, and then they enter a bloodlust fueled rage and end up banging on doors and tearing shit down until they find something to kill

[gray pilot]

very interesting theory

[sharp owl]

thanks

because sleepers for all their abilities are pretty stupid

they can't verify that the footsteps that woke them up are from a scout or a human

or if that bang was a sledgehammer or a rock that fell from the ceiling

so then they all wake each other up and run around like silly lil guys

which i think is funny

[gray pilot]

Absolutely correct. I like where this is going!

That’s the thing

Nobody here is asking the important questions..

[dusty lagoon]

Can game be played single player?

[mint light]

played yes. completed no

[dusty lagoon]

how can i play solo idk

[mint light]

just launch the game alone

you will not finish the game

but meaby you'll learn a bit

[dusty lagoon]

thanks

[exotic geyser]

Can bots use the biotracker properly or is a person better off using it?

[light sigil]

a person

[sharp owl]

bots are op with biotracker

[light sigil]

100%

people can be trusted with bio

[sharp owl]

[exotic geyser]

So I'll be fine with a bot using it on R1D1 then right?

[sharp owl]

yes

[muted cypress]

They are better during combat because of the farther tracking radius

[hidden valve]

anyone just now starting the game? need a team to play with and i know you have to complete certain levels

[sharp owl]

#lfg-beginners

[hidden valve]

goated

[timber tinsel]

I gave someone a heart attack~

We were leaving and I shut and mined a door behind me, knowing they were tailing behind. When they went to hack the door, I shot the mine. ❤️

[normal lake]

reminds me of playing a mp horror game called devour with my friends, whoever was in front would almost always shut the door on the person behind them if they where being chased and because the way doors worked you just spam e on the door to prevent other person from opening it. nothing funnier than the "Fuck you" followed by them getting fucked

[sharp owl]

the fact that low fps makes hacking easier

very nice touch

does gaming at 120 fps make hacking harder

[normal lake]

ive never had a problem and i usually run around 120fps altho it varies a lot with gtfo

[sharp owl]

If by the time r8 happens you can't get every cosmetic im gon be angy

[balmy moat]

Nah, makes it goes faster actually, depending on your RNG for the mini game

[sharp owl]

yes that's what i mean

the speed of the fps the speed of the meter changes

[balmy moat]

Harder does not equal faster

Like

Faster I.e your inputs are faster

[sharp owl]

?

[burnt flume]

Less input lag

[balmy moat]

No it does not make it harder

[grim leaf]

I dont use bio and I have never melee'd a scout

[sharp owl]

void just said it "makes it goes faster"

[balmy moat]

Not harder but faster

[burnt flume]

With regards to your input registering

I think

[balmy moat]

Yes

[sharp owl]

So low fps makes it go slower but high fps doesn't make speed up the thing

[balmy moat]

Nah

[sharp owl]

the bouncing line

whatever you call it

[balmy moat]

How it works is frame lag

[burnt flume]

So we are talking about the speeds of your inputs registering and not the movement speed of the mini game

[balmy moat]

It may look slower but that’s because of how many frames you get

In reality by just graphical looks it’s the same speed throughout

[sharp owl]

it's slower in real time

[balmy moat]

It’s not

[sharp owl]

are you sure

[balmy moat]

Yes

It’s a set speed

[sharp owl]

because it really feels like it's slower in real time

[balmy moat]

That’s why we also have faster mini game mod

It’s a set speed

[sharp owl]

and set speeds can get wonky at low fps

[balmy moat]

What you see is dependent on how much frames your GPU can push in correlation to what your display hertz

[sharp owl]

such as weapon firerates getting lowered by fps

[balmy moat]

But coded speed does not change

It’s like saying cars go slower in Forza because of low FPS

But that is not true according to the speedometer

[sharp owl]

some things in video games become slower when your framerate is low

i thought this was one of them

[balmy moat]

Nah

Something like that would be enemy animations

If you have a large amount of enemies on the map

Then stuff starts to really slow down

Yet even then you’d be licked hundreds of times and you wouldn’t be down till 2 minutes later

Test sample of like 200 enemies in the map

[sharp owl]

I think gtfo suffers from the fps affecting rpm thing

Notably the verutas sound doesn't match its fire rate

It's fire rate is ever so slightly slower than its audio

[balmy moat]

No

[sharp owl]

Ye

[balmy moat]

Wesley and I brought this up when I was testing ammo duping tech

[sharp owl]

I can fire 2 shots and hear 3

[balmy moat]

Machine gun firing by default already has shot/sound delay

That is not caused by FPS

That’s just how it is built into the game currently

I thought ammo duping was real but shot delay sounds proved it wrong when I tried testing ammo duping against a giant using the veruta

It’s not caused by low FPS count

[pine root]

Gtfo normally runs on a clock time update

[balmy moat]

Rip ammo duping tech

[sharp owl]

Why would you want ammo duping

[pine root]

Cause it is funny

[balmy moat]

In speedruns would be massive

You would get twice the starting ammo and would need to find less ammo packs

Applies only to automatic weapons

[sharp owl]

At what cost

[balmy moat]

At no cost

[wide moss]

so im about to buy the game but need to ask, how well does it run on a gtx 1050?

[balmy moat]

It’s quite literally a free bonus

[sharp owl]

Well i guess any% is any%

[balmy moat]

But it doesn’t exist

So

[sharp owl]

I meant that it's cheat-y

[pine root]

Just wait for ladder teleport

I trust it is real

[sharp owl]

adequately, probably?

[balmy moat]

Lol no

You would be getting worse than 20 FPS

Coming from a guy who ran 2 FPS with a 1060

[sharp owl]

The ol reliable trick of getting advice

Say some dumb shit and wait to be corrected

[balmy moat]

It’s just experience

[wide moss]

even on all low?

[rough robin]

gtfo is pretty CPU heavy

what's your cpu

[balmy moat]

Yea that’s the experience I had

[wide moss]

i have an i7 7700

[balmy moat]

You can negate CPU usage

[balmy moat]

Ouch

[sharp owl]

I wonder why it's cpu heavy

[wide moss]

I haven’t had any cpu bottleneck in a game yet

[balmy moat]

I had an i7 8565

[rough robin]

horde game

also not the most well optimized

[balmy moat]

You’re gonna be struggling

10xx series cards are a powerhouse but it struggles a lot with this game

[rough robin]

can always refund if it runs badly

[sharp owl]

You won't know if it runs badly until it's too late

You have 2 hours

[rough robin]

yeah you can

drop into a1, get 20 frames, refund

[wide moss]

I’m used to playing 20fps

[balmy moat]

I got 2 FPS in R7D2

[sharp owl]

60 frames on a1 can mean 15 on destination

[balmy moat]

R7D1 too

But R7D1 is special

[sharp owl]

Well too bad because this game requires precision

You cannot be precise at 20fps

[balmy moat]

I had serious skill issue running below 20 FPS

All speedrunners can confirm

Could not aim

[rough robin]

I wouldn't say it's THAT big a diff

[wide moss]

I’m assuming there’s no fsr?

[sharp owl]

Still very noticeable

[balmy moat]

No

No upscaling tech at all

[sharp owl]

Isn't fsr forced

[balmy moat]

Game isn’t that sophisticated for it

[balmy moat]

No

That’s only if the game has built in upscaling tech

[sharp owl]

Ok

[balmy moat]

Even then it can be disabled

[pine root]

The game

[blissful dome]

Optimized game

[pine root]

Does have a texture upscaler

That can’t be turned off

[balmy moat]

Ye

But it ain’t FSR or DLSS

And that’s what I’m assuming they meant