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trim heath
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i.e. I was playing with regen cap, took a single hit from big charger (would have killed me on 20% iirc) and managed to stay up

sharp owl
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main damage and resistance also have the other funny side effect which is indirectly making ammo and health last longer. It's like a hidden supply efficiency

charred ember
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this channel reek elitism sometime lol

rough robin
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SOMETIMES?

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SOMETIMES??

wispy bluff
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You just noticed?

burnt flume
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Heh, I'm not here to put anyone down but I did phrase that terribly

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Once you get to a certain point, scan speed won't do anything for your run outcomes

trim heath
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like

latent palm
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lol

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dont do bro like that pachi

trim heath
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if you run 60% main damage with DMR like 59% of that is doing nothing vs smalls

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and 60% doing nothing vs small shooters

wispy bluff
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A gain is a gain. Unless the level has no scans or all of them are clusters with 1 second default scan speed - yeah, I guess...

sharp owl
rough robin
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50% special damage sniper

sharp owl
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you run it on bullpup or smg or

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something

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HAHA

rough robin
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kill stuff more dead-er

unreal crystal
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making the long scan go faster does make it easier yes

trim heath
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obvious example to make the point

unreal crystal
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using it on thunderdome was so epic

trim heath
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the more overkill you do the better supply would have been

charred ember
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cfoam portion

wispy bluff
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I stacked main dmg on Bullpup once

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And got a prophetic vision of what BP post buff would be like

rough robin
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running main dmg on bullpup pre-altr6 was just "I buffed it myself"

trim heath
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lmao

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and doing so now?

sharp owl
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for whatever reason it still chugged ammo for me when i tried it

rough robin
trim heath
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its a gun that wants you to hold the trigger down, but you must resist

rough robin
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bullpup is def a bursty gun despite the super high rpm

wraith marsh
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bullpup didnt get an ammo buff, it just kills faster

rough robin
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which is Technically an ammo buff

wraith marsh
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its still bad without headshot compared to other things

wispy bluff
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I'll take it

sharp owl
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machine pistol and dmr hit the griddy together and bullpup was born

rough robin
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at least it's not an active detriment to take

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anymore

trim heath
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ye

wraith marsh
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ye

trim heath
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the reload used to be fucking awful

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I used to get into so much trouble using it

sharp owl
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was 0.3 seconds that much of a difference

rough robin
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yes

sharp owl
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didnt it go from 2.4 to 2.1

trim heath
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yes

wispy bluff
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Yes.

trim heath
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it is transformative

wispy bluff
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That's a lot in the world of gaming

junior latch
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its went from abyssmal to bad

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but the gun also got statt buffs

trim heath
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it went from unplayable to playable

junior latch
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its still not great

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but its not longer a detriment

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as a weapon

rough robin
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only buff i could see them giving it now would be a 45rnd mag. I wouldn't wanna power creep it anymore

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autos in general got a lot better wtih alt r6

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it's funny that now the AR is probably the worst one

sharp owl
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ar needs some love for real

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i wanna run it but it's so "meh"

rough robin
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idek how you'd buff the ar without invalidating the others

trim heath
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I was gonna try ar

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guess not

rough robin
trim heath
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carbine has spoiled me

junior latch
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anybody got an idea to deal with wave 4 of r7e1 in brazil skip

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musicmommyThink ?

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im currently stuck

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using 2 cfoam, mines and bio

rough robin
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step 1. pray

junior latch
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already doing that

rough robin
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I am out of ideas.

trim heath
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I need to try smg/hsmg again

junior latch
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thats me rn grongus

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suffering

trim heath
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neither felt particularly good last time

rough robin
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they feel way better but the heavy SMG gunshot sound tickles my brain in the WRONG way

trim heath
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yeah it does

rough robin
wispy bluff
junior latch
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we got to wave 3

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but thats cuz we didnt find ammo

rough robin
junior latch
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starting end of wave 4 it gets ridicolus tho

rough robin
wispy bluff
junior latch
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we know it will be with boosters

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and should be if somebody quits out after getting code

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but trying without either

rough robin
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yeah i feel like stacking ammo boosts is gonna be #1

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i don't even know what else

junior latch
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the idea would be cfoam portion

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and just foam the last 2 reactor waves

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or at least code 4 fully

rough robin
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oh thats a better idea

junior latch
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supply efficiency obviously cracked for longer foam AND more ammo

rough robin
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foam is probably gonna be the only way

junior latch
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thats why we got 2 already

rough robin
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my idea was stacking damage to make main weapons take less hits to kill but that's a lot less potent

junior latch
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but so little time for loot

trim heath
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what is brazil skip

junior latch
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its also not fun that we are basically 3 people

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since 1 person is sitting pablo

wispy bluff
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Same question

rough robin
trim heath
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weird

junior latch
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you skip going to the other dimension in R7E1 and thus have a permanent charger alarm + pablo stays

wispy bluff
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I have no idea what those words mean

burnt flume
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start sustain/thunderdome, and then you run

trim heath
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oh thats terrifying

pine root
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Yeah

junior latch
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yes

rough robin
wispy bluff
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That sounds impossible to me

junior latch
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we are doing it live rn

rough robin
junior latch
rough robin
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it'd be hard enough with the constant charger swarm but then you have the giant cobweb

pine root
trim heath
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doing reactor with de facto charger error alarm sounds awful

junior latch
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its oof

pine root
trim heath
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still

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you have pablo on top of it

pine root
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That is an issue

wispy bluff
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The level is ass tight on ammo as is, and you want to invite twice as many chargers to the party

burnt flume
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charger wave will back up reactor, and reactor will block charger spawns

junior latch
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pachi eat faster

junior latch
pine root
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But you are skipping a 4 use

trim heath
pine root
trim heath
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ye if the reactor waves queue that means you just dont get a break

wispy bluff
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Good luck, that's probably the ultimate gtfo challenge and frankly I don't think its doable.

pine root
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Correct

trim heath
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while dealing with pablo

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while getting code

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yikers

pine root
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maybe 50%

wispy bluff
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Just go get perfect boosters mod for everyone

junior latch
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trying without boosters for now

wispy bluff
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Give it like 5-10 tries normally and then start sniffing

junior latch
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also dont need perfect boosters, we only rly need 2 boosters total

wispy bluff
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It will ease up the logistics of who gets to burn the pack

pine root
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One is code grabbing one is Pablo sitting

wispy bluff
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Right

late karma
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Just use doorbug problem solved

wispy bluff
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Hm.

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Muted and bold supplies and then Agressive sentry CPU speed on a sniper

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Will take care of those chargers real good

pine root
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we already did it with door bug

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The 15 something time on YouTube

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Ducking borning run tho like nothing happens

junior latch
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wdym its super interesting

sharp owl
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guys why doesn't my game work

grim leaf
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is your PC's storage full/almost full?

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might need to reinstall GTFO if nothing seems wrong

wraith marsh
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verify integrity first

sharp owl
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restarting pee see worked

wraith marsh
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nice

sharp owl
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i think i should do r7 so i get cosmetics and then when alt come i get more

wraith marsh
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were probably not getting an alt r7 but ig better safe than sorry

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r7 levels are fun anyways

sharp owl
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how can u say no alt r7

wraith marsh
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why would we get one

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it was never removed

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its also not on the roadmap from ages ago

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though that doesnt really hold much meaning

pine root
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Here is the shaffer Maddox voice clip again

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Honestly they should do alt r7 just for that

wispy bluff
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yeah, they're not doing that

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That appeal of ALTS was returning old removed content the new people haven't seen

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Would be weird to just randomly upgrade R7 to alt... With like... 2 changes.

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They would be eaten alive.

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Now R8 being R7 ALT in disguise because the story went different route...

latent palm
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@rough willow should had been a female scout

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either way its very gud

rough willow
latent palm
rough willow
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yes

latent palm
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The chest/shoulders/head looks off ngl

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Gives out a giants muscular look than the scouts softer look

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And thiccer than usual lol

rough willow
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whoops ig

latent palm
analog flicker
shut vapor
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@frail bramble not exactly gtfo content:')

gleaming coyote
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So I got a question

rose nova
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do say

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do gtfoquestion

trim sail
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say the word my brother

latent palm
upbeat sail
gleaming coyote
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What’s your opinions on the snatcher (if that is its name)

trim sail
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it's lame

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super easy to deal with, not much of an interesting mechanic for the snatcher

rose nova
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i think its, verynice enemy that was just, bit funkily used kmdksm cause i havent played a lot of it, but it has appeared more than i thought

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i like that is not a tank or a mother, is an inbetween

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between big guy n boss, is a nice medium place

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where if theres shit ton happenin it can disrupt ur run, but it is not hard to do solo

trim heath
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other than that...just kill it and it dies and isnt really too threatening most of the time

rose nova
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just kill it and it dies

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damn

trim heath
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I mean it just melts

rose nova
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that isnt better KMSKDMK

trim heath
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I know kekw

rose nova
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just shoot it smh

trim heath
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I am more scared of a giant charger than snatcher for the most part

rose nova
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me too but, snatchie dependin on situation can be danger

rough robin
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well one grabs you for like 20 damage and giant charger bulldozes you for 80

rose nova
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first time on r7c1 for sures is gonna disrupt the s scan mostly cause u not expect it

trim heath
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one doesnt immediately kill you and might get you killed later, the other will probably kill you very quickly

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yeah its disruptive but not necessarily dangerous imo

rose nova
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its not supposed to be a mother or somethin is made to like be a both surprise ane enemy to separate ur group

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thats why usually comes in bigger numbers

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like how in r7c1, 2 3 4 can spawn

trim heath
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they can? I never see any after the scan

rose nova
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in r7d1 it spawns for all the level... not talkin of the bugs cause everyone knows

rose nova
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i seen a couple on like gameplays of it

trim heath
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prob because I basically just sprint to extraction

rose nova
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i mean

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everyone

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but

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ive seen em sometimes

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but like yeah they spawn more than those bosses

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on r5idontremember i think it was an s scan with like 2 3 of em

trim heath
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2 in r5c2 overload

rose nova
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yes that

trim heath
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not too scary since they have the distinct spawn animation and their timings don't coincide with other scary things

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not animation the sound they make mb

rose nova
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i

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but

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thats not my point ksmdkm

trim heath
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like

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they would be really scary if they spawn in the middle of like a surge alarm

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but their spawning is either highly controllable or doesnt really come alongside scary things to make that disruption worse

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r7e1 spawns will catch some people but again they dont spawn when there's anything other than pablo so...not really too scary. its a disruptor enemy that gets placed in locations where that isn't necessarily a top end threat unlike, say, a giant charger

rose nova
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i mean problem is that ups the difficulty, a lot

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like on r7d2 they spawn

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in the middle of the extract alarm

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with a mom or the tank that u chose

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plus all the smols

trim heath
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tbh I was not aware that they spawned there, they must have just gotten shredded before I saw them on my r7d2 run

shut vapor
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An unexpected awake mother spawn would just be frustrating to deal with.

I don't want to spend 10 minutes waiting for her to move 5 metres closer or risk wasting the rest of my life picking off babies that run off into the fog

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Thankfully scattergun has returned

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So it's not a big deal

trim heath
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mom deleter gun

rose nova
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im sorry to
say but where did that come from

shut vapor
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Jet wanted mums that spawn during surge alarms right

trim heath
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no

rose nova
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no, snatchers

trim heath
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snatcher

shut vapor
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Oh snatchers

rose nova
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that was the whole talk

shut vapor
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I only saw like 4 messages

trim heath
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one during a surge would be much scarier than most of the other instances they spawn

shut vapor
rose nova
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smh

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:b

trim heath
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esp from a side room

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would be very tricky

shut vapor
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Snatchers are very quirky

rose nova
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uwu

shut vapor
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Hear me out: run to extract with a surge alarm
-> snatcher leading the pack
-> you get munched and carried closer to spawn past the enemies
-> new tactic

upbeat sail
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r7c3 does that

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well kinda

rose nova
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r7d2 kinda too

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or am i trippin

upbeat sail
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d2 is just "throw a blob of everything at you"

wraith marsh
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r5e1 is the closest youre gonna get for surge snatcher

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even though its technically on approaching door, not actually pulling the scan

rose nova
upbeat sail
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correct

trim heath
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yes it is

shut vapor
rose nova
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so based

wraith marsh
trim heath
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YES

wraith marsh
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mf breaks all your doors at double speed and can eat the mine through the door

trim heath
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PLEASE

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that would be absolutely horrible and beautiful

shut vapor
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Having world events that happen when certain things occur (entering a zone etc) that isn't pulling doors make the game more fun

shut vapor
upbeat sail
trim heath
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would be fun if it worked like say vermintide 2's monster spawning

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theres specific checkpoints in the level where you have a chance to get a spawn

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and suddenly sth spawned in front of or behind you

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to spice the gameplay up a bit

torpid rose
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I would like to report player Gerzhull for toxicity in my friendly pub lobby

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this Gerzhull person or "Beth" told me that she would shoot all the black enemies including my mother

unreal crystal
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?????????????????????????????????????????????????????

upbeat sail
pine root
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Might as well admit it

unreal crystal
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i have it on stream friend

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proof of me never saying that

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nice try

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trying to cancel me as always...

visual lily
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My fav lvl is r4c3 cause of all the black enemies i can shoot

visual lily
vernal nebula
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The R2E1 curse is lifted main

visual lily
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You got baby?

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Are you pregnante

rough robin
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pregananant?

vernal nebula
charred ember
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pregegnant?

vernal nebula
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baby

charred ember
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idk what pretnart is but get better soon okay

latent palm
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@torpid rose

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mf called him mid for the BEST FUCKING SHADOW SCOUT KILL ANGLE

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IM SO MAD

unreal crystal
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i did not call him mad r u high

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mid*

latent palm
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im just bad lol

nocturne monolith
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So I've been interested in this game for a while, but I looked at steamcharts and apparently there aren't many players playing. So I was wondering how long does it take to fill up the lobby? Assuming I'm completely new and probably going to play the first levels or whatever they are called here

thick temple
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if you're using in-game matchmaking, about 1000 years
if you're using the lfg channels here not usually that long

mint light
nocturne monolith
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Gotcha. Thanks

timber tinsel
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I only find it difficult finding peoples in the deep dead of night~! So post in active hours!

eternal mural
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it sucks bc the only way i play gtfo is in the dead of the night, feels odd playing it during the day

glacial shard
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Sorry for quiting the match but got to take care of my cats

unreal crystal
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looking after your cats is important…

glacial shard
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Those little criters get everywhere

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Had to fight Fluffy for him not to step on the table

unreal crystal
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fighting your cats is kinda fucked up

glacial shard
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I never hit my cats

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I just pick them up and hold their paws together

latent palm
unreal crystal
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I haven’t slept yet

latent palm
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WHAT

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Ive been 14hrs straight runs yesterday

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i needed 6hrs of today lol

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and youre tellin me

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no sleep 7Am!?!?

unreal crystal
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I had stuff to do I’ll be sleeping soon anyway

latent palm
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my gawd gerz

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leave some virus for us to become zombies with

unreal crystal
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what do you even mean by that

latent palm
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just insane respect for u

unreal crystal
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I see I see

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Ty I guess

frozen acorn
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Who will go? 109775245082186468

sharp owl
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Lfgs bruddaaaa

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.t lfg

foggy plankBOT
latent palm
sharp owl
latent palm
sharp owl
lunar oriole
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Ive grown to hate strikers that crawl. Specially on rundowns with stairs

vestal crystal
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Stairs in general are cursed

lunar oriole
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You track them and just as they reach the top of the stairs you go for the head melee

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Just to hit the floor as their head and upper torso clip into the ground

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I learned to hate these guys in R2C2. Every 15 seconds a new wave would spawn and at least one of them spawn and down me since I was constantly on >20% : )

mint light
sharp owl
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yeah

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15 secs is too low

lunar oriole
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Then I miscounted

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It certainly felt like 15 seconds as every time I turned my back I heard the roar and the epic music going on

wispy bluff
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Yeah, crawlers are universally cringe

lunar oriole
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  • anxiety on being 20% hp with zero ammo on both weapons Sweating
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In basically every part of the mission besides alarms upon which we geared up a bit

wispy bluff
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Generally just don't fight enemies on stairs in any video game period.

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It's 2023 and games still don't know what to do about stairs

lunar oriole
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Skyrim disagrees PirateSimon

wispy bluff
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Maybe pvp games like team fortress, but pve just...

lunar oriole
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You fight the enemy on stairs and he clips out of the world. Dying in the process

wispy bluff
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FromSoft games break when enemy is on a slightly different level to you

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Suddenly your shield doesn't work or your attacks glide over their heads

lunar oriole
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Its troubling. In fps games generally high ground = good and in rpg's low ground = good. Shooting down upon enemies for the former and stabbing their feet on the latter

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But I digress

lunar oriole
# mint light Isn't it every 40 sec to a min?

Yeah even if it is 40 seconds. Im my defense edging on 20% health, zero ammo, inside of the fog looking for ID's and carrying the bio meaning i constantly switch between melee and tool to scan or look around. It does make it feel like they spawn absurdly quick

queen galleon
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I was in R6A1 with 3 bots and when I was doing well I had to ragequit anyways because the second bot, Dauda got stuck between stones and didn't even try to jump.
It is awful how I had to lose not because I died but because of the game's own technical issue.

queen galleon
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oh

burnt flume
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You can remove the bot and then add it back to change its position, yeah

mint light
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eh

queen galleon
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lol

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wish i knew it

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thanks a lot

mint light
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👍

burnt flume
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It's a fairly small level, hope it doesn't take you too long to get back to the same point

junior latch
foggy lotus
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So im on the fence about buying GTFO . is it worth it in your eyes? send your opinions please on why to buy or why not too . PS i dont have many people to play online with so not sure if that is a factor.

mint light
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If not then: no. ingame MM is dead

wispy bluff
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The good:

  • immersive coop
  • great tasty challenge

The bad:

  • sometimes too challenging
  • map design gets bland and repetitive quickly
  • socialisation or you will never finish the game
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This won't one of those run n gun games

coarse grail
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Another con not yet mentioned is its quite buggy

wispy bluff
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Oh yeah, that.

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It's uh... Not a diamond, exactly.

foggy lotus
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i am willing to play with others yes . just don't have any online friend's as none of my actual friends play games lol.

latent palm
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so many ppl doing E1 today

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lol

foggy lotus
coarse grail
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Game sessions can also last a long time, between 20 minutes to 2 and a half hours depending on the level and how fast your team is

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But if you like the look of the gameplay and are ready for a challenge then go for it

latent palm
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some time it takes 2hours sometimes it takes a day

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@lusty river

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heard youve not reach far in R7

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i can help

mint light
lusty river
lusty river
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I'm on 🙂

latent palm
little ridge
wispy bluff
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Oh boy, I love wiping on minute 80 of the run and resetting back to start

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(rare, but had it happen)

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Game's exhausting, it's almost like a job.
Can't just play it casually all day long.

foggy lotus
little ridge
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once you finish all the maps there ain't technically anything else to do, assuming you aren't into randomizing runs or whatever

latent palm
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@little ridge

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R3A2 has infection?

little ridge
burnt flume
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Yes

little ridge
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I think ||bottom zone has spitters and there's fog||

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or only the second one I dont recall

foggy lotus
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Ok well I'll take a shot at it. If anyone is interested in a newbie to join the team add my steam account Elitelattice

wicked solstice
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.t lfg

foggy plankBOT
wicked solstice
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This really makes me wish the Gamescom levels were available as demoes

foggy lotus
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Ok I was told about the lfg sorry lol.

wicked solstice
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All good!

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Just letting you know

latent palm
trim heath
wicked solstice
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demos for the game itself

mint light
sharp owl
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its a genius move assuming they also include a comprehensive beginners tutorial

sharp wren
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think so

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maybe

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forgor already

true pilot
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i do not recall infected fog in R3A3

latent palm
sharp wren
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Yeah R3A3 is a reactor startup isn't it?

true pilot
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yup

little ridge
latent palm
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what would i do without u

little ridge
latent palm
knotty sphinx
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jsp ou sait qui faut demander mais il y aurai des personne dispo pour jouer au jeux parce j'ai l'impression de l'avoir payer pour rien

livid gulch
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R8 will feature your mom

fossil cape
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ive been sitting here for 10 minutes in matchmaking and cant find a game :(

grim leaf
fossil cape
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wheres that

grim leaf
fossil cape
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thx

grim leaf
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np

rose nova
# fossil cape thx

just some advice!
always ask to not be carried, make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel
and if you are new be sure to do the tutorial first [Training] and start on rundown 1 since its the simplest one

grim leaf
lean grail
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Just realized this game is the adult version of redlight greenlight

pure crypt
rose nova
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and then the game is gonna slap u and force u to do it redlight greenlight again skdmkm

charred ember
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does shadow run slower than normal sleepers?

grim leaf
charred ember
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can scattergun 2 shot a tank?

rose nova
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at least pretty sure not

fast bobcat
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I have been blessed

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I have found the six-charge ammo pack

rose nova
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:D

fast bobcat
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I did not know such a beautiful thing was possible.

trim heath
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theres like five or six rooms (not levels, not zones, rooms) per rundown where I will do the entire thing red light green light style

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stealth rapidly becomes a "ok I'm just gonna walk around and bash your skull in and you ain't gonna stop me" thing

balmy moat
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Fast clears >>>

trim heath
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if theres a level where I can play knife and not be a dead weight (bascially anything before like mid C tier is fine) I will sprint through rooms in what I can only assume is the most American depiction of London possible

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its faster than creeping around and honestly safer

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maybe walk around rooms with giants, because I want my team to catch up and deal with those because lmao I am knife giants not my problem

balmy moat
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Just knife giant(s)

trim heath
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I don't have all day

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you could probably do a whole like A tier level in the time it takes to kill one giant semi safely with a knife

balmy moat
#

Eh, it doesn’t take 6 minutes to knife a giant, or a couple

rose nova
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i just hear skill issues just tank the slap

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smh

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whats 40% health

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two medis? u replenish em fast

balmy moat
#

Knife tank GigaChad

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Now that’s the way to go

trim heath
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team: "where'd that 6 use med go?"
knife main: tries to look innocent

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iirc Scaler killed a tank with knife before

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in the loosest possible definition of killed

rose nova
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through a floor once i think skdmkm

balmy moat
#

Knife Pablo gigachadgif

rose nova
#

knife ur teammates

trim heath
#

ok if you knife pablo I will legitimately be impressed after calling you absolutely insane

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yknow

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if you actually kill it

frozen ledge
#

I will never stop my crusade for console release

vernal nebula
#

Encoutered my first mom today, she almost gave me a timeout from playing but we were able to kill her. This game just gets tougher and tougher

sharp siren
#

Coming for nintendo swith ++

frozen ledge
#

Bear in mind i’m at part 87 of asking on the tiktok

grim leaf
#

I'm off work :D

latent palm
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@rough willow in god he found sussys and in gods name he smited the sussies

grim leaf
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sounds kinda sus

opal steeple
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Are the R_AX missions the older missions?

sharp owl
rose nova
# opal steeple Are the R_AX missions the older missions?

the R6 AX BX and CX i guess u mean
i mean um kinda?
Rundown 6 came out with the 1.0 of the game, and then they released those three later on in an update
then rundown 7 came out and they went away
and now they introduced em all at once with the ALT

grim leaf
latent palm
sharp owl
grim leaf
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lol I bet I'm older than azert

latent palm
#

your house looks like Chernobyl

sharp owl
grim leaf
sharp owl
sharp owl
grim leaf
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alright azert, how old are you?

sharp owl
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48

grim leaf
grim leaf
sharp owl
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Bruh u ain't even a sprout yet

grim leaf
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lol I'm the oldest in my friend groups. usually XD

rose nova
#

u the boomer smh

sharp owl
#

U still got some years ahead of you

sharp owl
grim leaf
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take the door to my heart

rose nova
#

now its mine

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ill use it as a bed

sharp owl
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It's made out of metal and cold

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Good

grim leaf
#

use his backdoor instead 😏

sharp owl
opal steeple
#

Are there plans to overhaul the game to add new features and new things to it? or is it just going to continue as-is

grim leaf
rose nova
sharp owl
sharp owl
rose nova
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but yeah games had a run of 4 years with new stuff i dont think muchs gonna be added

opal steeple
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That's a shame the game is flawed but has a lot of potential

rose nova
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new enemies guns n stuff

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das bouts it

upbeat sail
sharp owl
upbeat sail
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or at least hopefully they are and its not just a payday clone

opal steeple
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What's the new project? Is it this game but refined?

rose nova
#

no

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is another game

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very different

sharp owl
#

Payday clone

rose nova
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it was a heist idk what thing

grim leaf
#

this game is pretty sweet as is imo

opal steeple
#

Why ddidn't they fix this one?

sharp owl
#

Burnt out

rose nova
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cause they r still not done with it first and second cause they divided their studio in two for both games

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nice my interney died

opal steeple
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Tragic

rose nova
#

eh they still can come up with bug fixes from here to r8

sharp owl
upbeat sail
rose nova
#

and modded stuff already has taken a lot of

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ground

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to add new stuff

opal steeple
#

yeah but I'm talking more fundamental changes

rose nova
upbeat sail
rose nova
opal steeple
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making it so each level has a "master" AI which determines how the enemies in each level conduct themselves

sharp owl
rose nova
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oh no

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oh nonono

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no ai

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they already played around it

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didnt went well skdmkm

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thats why its not a thing

upbeat sail
rose nova
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this isnt l4d2

rose nova
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and it was gonna be semi randomized

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but they discarded it

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well 2018 or before

opal steeple
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why'd they get rid of it

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the game has a really interesting concept and really interesting idea but it's unbelievably shallow because of no development beyond the most basic of ideas

rose nova
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cause first an ai is super hard to code second cause it adds a lot of problems without it being scripted

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even like the idea was even some levels randomized

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but the amount of bugs n stuff and softocks it would create without a fuck hell of polish would be very high

upbeat sail
#

I think modders managed to get random generation somewhat working just its really unstable

rose nova
#

modders do magic but those type of things are just not clean enough to add to a game cause is not polished

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yes yes gtfo isnt super polished but this would even bring more problems ksmdkm

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like way more

upbeat sail
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and would instantly roadblock new players from getting in which is saying something with how few people stick around currently

rose nova
#

even like how would u calculate the amount of enemies for some levels

opal steeple
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not really random generation regarding the map I mean the way the enemies operate

rose nova
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r2b1 stocks u up to the teeth but then it puts u through pain

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u can moderate enemies in that sense

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cause there isnt really a way to

rose nova
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some newies run around wake up a ton of rooms but still have ammo and tool

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then the program will see they r pro players n just make it super hard for em too

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or what if medium players didnt go through a resource room and took their time

opal steeple
#

not like t hat either

upbeat sail
#

do you just mean smarter pathfinding or

rose nova
#

ok then yeah idk whatcha mean

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can u elaborate

sharp owl
upbeat sail
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im aware but I dont know what else he would be talking about

opal steeple
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Whether they stalk you throughout the map, whether they make them aware of you but "try to determine what you're ddoing"

sharp owl
#

He means different behaviors

upbeat sail
#

oh

opal steeple
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send enemiees at you in certain rooms but doesn't otherwise

sharp owl
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Like a gmod next bot

rose nova
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i am not gettin it

opal steeple
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no like

upbeat sail
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that ive seen things kinda like it in modded

opal steeple
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A master AI that controls how the dungeon's enemies engages you

rose nova
#

u mean like havin safe rooms and places to hide from em?

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or

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no i dont get t

sharp owl
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WHEN R8ShooterUok

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Slendi bruh

rose nova
#

my english readin comprehension is not high today

latent palm
rose nova
upbeat sail
raw shard
#

They can be

sharp owl
raw shard
upbeat sail
opal steeple
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Yeah but to shake up the gameplay it sends enemies at you depending on the situation you're in

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or it has some enemies stalk you

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or it has others surround you but not be active

sharp owl
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Make a neural network AI and call it a day

opal steeple
#

Like a dungeon masteer in DND

upbeat sail
rose nova
#

but it already kinda does that the game can spawn em or not w/o needin alarms at all times when they want
problem is this game is more black on white where if u do it well u can get scot free of a lot of fights but if u keep wakin em up its combat
if u add like enemies that might just be woken up cause yes and do stuff that is gonna, kinda be very funky to deal with

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i mean snatchers arent like stalkin u they just keep their distance

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but they come in combat every, bit of time

sharp owl
opal steeple
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No they don't get woken up they are already awake, and some kind of hive mind is aware that you're there

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so instead of just being "dumb enemies" they're a collective that can act depending on variables

upbeat sail
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and theres that one modded rundown with the completely invisible enemies that dont show up on thermals

opal steeple
#

What if some enemies are connected to this hivemind and others are not

rose nova
#

no thats what i mean like if theres just an enemy that is already awake is just gonna be hard to deal with, like what would it even do, wake enemies? that would just be kinda unfair without a warnin, and if u make it aware to the players is gonna be easy and

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i mean i kinda get u

opal steeple
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So you're still misunderstanding

upbeat sail
rose nova
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no like do different AIs with enemies, is that what u mean? like have enemies that arent just awake or asleep and have variety

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have inbetweens have different ideas

rose nova
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ok the not-natal-english speaker should not be havin this convo ksmdkm

opal steeple
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OK so the AI that operates as a dungeon master picks and chooses from a variety of situations that best matches the player's current sitatuion to make the level more dynamic. So instead of being able to blast through a level you have a dynamic environment which chooses the enemies you will face next

rose nova
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i am just too dumb for it

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yall deal with it

upbeat sail
opal steeple
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Or situation. E.g. a turret in one room becomes active and is hostile towards you and all enemies. So you can use that to your advantage or disable it

upbeat sail
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of course more could be added but its a bit late for that outside of modded

raw shard
#

Personally I'd love to see the bleed mechanic get ported to the main game to give meds more purpose

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

opal steeple
#

Or, there is a stalker enemy which is actively tracking you and until you kill it is activating specific enemies in other rooms which can
A:
Prepare for you getting there
B:
Come after you now
C: Do nothing

upbeat sail
#

that kinda happens during error alarms

opal steeple
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or on a select few maps you can have either nothing, or an enemy that is unkillable which follows you around

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So no playthrough of a single map is the same name

raw shard
#

R7E1 despair

opal steeple
#

I'm aware

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But why not port that over to other maps

upbeat sail
#

yeah the unkillable enemy idea sounds a lot better on paper

raw shard
#

Because it's not a good mechanic

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the immortal is not fun lmao

upbeat sail
#

in practice its just annoying to deal with

opal steeple
#

Again, you can make it better

raw shard
#

I think it can be to be fair

opal steeple
#

There are a lot of really good concepts executed really really badly

raw shard
#

But feel free to try, come to the modding server and we'll show you how hmmNice

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If you think you know how to make it better you can malice

opal steeple
#

I unfortunately don't have enough time to dedicate myself to that. I'm at university doing studdy

#

I really like the setting, the arstyle and the idea of the way the world works here

upbeat sail
opal steeple
#

but there is no substituting information to give you a reason to continue

#

no plot

raw shard
#

Even if you don't have time you can suggest something and maybe someone will pick it up

#

no plot? Huh

upbeat sail
#

well there is a plot but I dont think they planned it out ahead of time so its a bit iffy

opal steeple
#

yeah

sharp siren
#

There is a plot

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But its pretencious af

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And you need tor ead 300 emails

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Good luck

opal steeple
#

explain it to me

raw shard
#

done

sharp siren
#

I stop giving a fuck after original rundown 5

upbeat sail
sharp siren
#

Yeah read the gatekeeper notepad

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"For dummies"

hidden path
#

10 Chambers * runs out of ideas *
"Yeah let's do dimensions and multiverses!"

raw shard
#

I mean the dimension hopping is kinda cool tho let's be real

sharp siren
#

And actuallt puts information infront of you

raw shard
#

Does it? xD

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It made a lot more sense when MatPat explained it to me

hidden path
#

Bro who the hell is this William Afton homie I keep hearing about

raw shard
sharp siren
#

But when you go from spooky shit to suddenly everybody and their mom teleporting when there wasnt any emails nor anything its really a letdown

sharp siren
#

Pewdiepie

opal steeple
#

Yeah the concepts are really really good but it just rrips you out of it

sharp siren
upbeat sail
sharp siren
#

They fix that woth alts

raw shard
#

I mean they had to go somewhere with the story otherwise we wouldn't have made it out of rundown 5

sharp siren
opal steeple
#

It's a horro game right? but each doorr has enemies on the other side of it, each enemy is relatively the same andd acts the same

raw shard
#

Where would you go with the story after R5?

opal steeple
#

it's all measured there's no uknown

sharp siren
#

This is not a horror game lmao

hidden path
#

Hear me out, R8 is gonna be like Revelations from BO3 Zombies with suddenly having chunks of maps glued with each other

sharp siren
#

More of a tactical horde shooter

raw shard
#

you are correct about all enemies being relatively the same tho

hidden path
#

Because something something dimension collapse

opal steeple
#

"extreme cooperative horror shooter"

opal steeple
#

So make of it what you will

raw shard
#

tiles that have been fused together

upbeat sail
opal steeple
#

Which is what I just said

sharp siren
#

Not really

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You said horror

#

Horror its like.amnesia

hidden path
#

I mean devs describe it as a extreme shooter with horror elements

opal steeple
#

Yeah because it lists itself as horror, it's described in a few locations as horror but it's not actual horror becuase it's all measured

hidden path
#

Now other sites labeling it as horror is different lol

#

In fact this game was labelled as a Hardcore Co op Shooter

sharp siren
#

^

hidden path
#

But then R6 dropped and they called it an extreme shooter instead

sharp siren
#

Also people put those tags

#

I think

sharp siren
hidden path
#

Because calling R6 a hardcore experience was a bit of a stretch

sharp siren
#

😔

hidden path
#

Sadge gaming

upbeat sail
#

the horror is more just being shocked until you figure out how to play the game properly or run into one of the curveballs it throws at you for the first time

hidden path
#

Honestly I think the multiplayer aspect also contributes to the horror wearing off quickly

upbeat sail
#

definitely

raw shard
#

I agree

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But it's way more fun as a multiplayer game

sharp siren
#

Anything that have coop just kills horror

hidden path
#

Most horror games I've seen that succeed at scaring you are single player

sharp siren
#

You cannot take shit seriously woth friends lmao

upbeat sail
#

especially when you add in a dedicated "shut the fuck up" voiceline button

opal steeple
#

Also I think there was a missed opportunity to make psychosis a feature

raw shard
#

that is also a cool idea

#

seeing sleepers that aren't real or something

hidden path
#

It sounds good on paper but I feel like it would need to be applied in specific parts

sharp siren
upbeat sail
raw shard
#

Not to my knowledge

sharp siren
#

Specially as an active mechanic

hidden path
#

Yeah

sharp siren
#

Infection makes sense

#

But this is not a slow methodical game

raw shard
#

You can make it a slow methodical game

sharp siren
#

For anything mental to take place

#

Im not counting shitty rundowns with long stealth sections

#

Theres a reason why people dread main in r4c2

hidden path
#

R5D1 be like

sharp siren
#

And extreme ij r5d1

raw shard
#

Nah nah, when the threats are actually something significant and not just more strikers and shooters than the last room

sharp siren
#

Sure like tank in r6d3?

raw shard
#

and you have targets to prioritise

hidden path
#

A new Scout variant. The Scout Scout

raw shard
#

R6D3 is a good starting point yeah

hidden path
#

Just a Scout that's double the size and has twice the amounts of feelers

#

And sprints when patrolling

sharp siren
#

Nah lemme do like fatal shitperiment and just slap 50 variants that are sinilar to eachother

raw shard
#

But as said earlier the game just doesn't have enough enemy variety to not just have tanks or a birther as a "Big threat"

#

Imagine thinking fatal experiment is supposed to be serious lmao

opal steeple
#

you don't need to make completely different enemies you can just have the same enemies act in different ways

sharp siren
#

And if you just slapping that in most levels its boring and you get the same scenario everytime

raw shard
#

I feel like subtle changes in some similar enemies is good

hidden path
#

Honestly I'd love an actually boss enemy that doesn't entail getting teleported to an arena

raw shard
#

Rewards a keen eye

opal steeple
#

*dea

sharp siren
#

Stealth its boring as it is

#

I rather just get more action

raw shard
#

well yeah, that's why we're suggesting ideas to make it better

opal steeple
#

yeah which is why you make dynamic dungeons

raw shard
#

Instead of just discarding the concept entirely

#

Stealthing when done right can be hella fun

sharp siren
hidden path
#

Hopefully we get an E tier that isn't a reactor or just slapping error alarms, or spamming a mechanic over and over

sharp siren
opal steeple
#

I think you're just a miserable person tbh

raw shard
#

As said, when done right

torpid rose
#

LOL OWNED

sharp siren
#

Just telling it how it is

hidden path
#

Because a reactor is like the cheapest way to make a hard level imo

raw shard
#

Yeah but reactor cool thumbsup

opal steeple
hidden path
#

I just want more Warden Objectives lmao

#

I loved the timed terminal thing, but a shame that it was the only new objective they added in R7

sharp siren
opal steeple
#

Honestly there are a lot of ideas which could have been improved upon or used or mechanics that could have made this whole game much more dynamic and exciting

raw shard
#

I feel like timed connections didn't get enough use but then I remembered they were added in R7 ;-;

hidden path
#

Yeah but devs do be kinda lazy sometimes

sharp siren
#

Gtfo wasnt really build for dynamic building

raw shard
#

Timed connection objective is pretty fun

opal steeple
opal steeple
#

Inspiration can be taken from DRG

#

not with it's game objectives or anything inherent to each mission but rather the way that the game makes you interact with it

upbeat sail
#

I dont know why but DRG gives me extremely hard burnout

sharp siren
#

The casual game drg that completly different to gtfo design wise?

torpid rose
#

guys drg is just not fun

hidden path
#

Prisoners, take these pickaxes and go mine some iridium at 2000 meters. Beware of motile biomass. PirateSimon

opal steeple
sharp siren
#

Drg and its design its msde from the ground up to be random

#

Gtfo isnt

#

They use tiles, etc but its handcrafted

opal steeple
#

e.g. generalised objectives that can be completed in different rundowns/missions. Objectives you complete that are "high priority" that give you different enemies upon revisit

hidden path
#

Would be cool but R8 will be the last rundown

opal steeple
#

Tragic

hidden path
#

For now at least

opal steeple
#

Someone should buy the concept and re-do it

sharp siren
#

Wouldnt be the first time neither

opal steeple
#

Be brilliant with shorter missions too. Friends can't commit to 3hrs

hidden path
#

I mean if they need more money for theyr cyberpayday then they could just add more content to this I guess

opal steeple
#

Shorter missions means you can have more variety

hidden path
#

Speaking of which I have no clue how the plan to develop their next game without a stable source of passive income

upbeat sail
hidden path
#

You can make the missions shorter by getting good and speedrunning them PirateSimon

#

Turn that mindset into a grindset

sharp siren
#

No.mission on this game its 3 hours

hidden path
#

Honestly I've never taken 3 hours to complete a mission

upbeat sail
sharp siren
#

If your spending more than a 1 hour +(depending on tier and other stuff) then you either idling too much or not making moves

sharp siren
hidden path
sharp siren
#

And thats rundown 5 mind you

hidden path
#

Rundown 5 is long level simulator

sharp siren
#

One of the longest and "hardest" rundown

upbeat sail
#

im just saying it can take that long if newsish people manage to end up in it

hidden path
#

I still remember when new peeps complained that R6D1 was too long

raw shard
#

literally how

hidden path
#

People taking up to 6 hours to get that level done

#

Like my brother in Christ have you tried not skipping tiers?

sharp siren
#

God bless the re-releases

#

Now people when they reach a new rundown will actually know a little of the game mechanics

hidden path
#

Yeah

#

That also means devs no longer have an excuse to make an easy rundown

upbeat sail
hidden path
#

Since most new players will prob start at R1

late karma
#

no mission will take 3 hours for us

sharp siren
#

Yeah but the point its that no level its design to be 3 hours

hidden path
#

We gotta teach them the ways of the bonk

#

That is a funny phenomenon

sharp siren
#

I can go and play R2B2 for 6 hours but thats not the level its just my slow play

late karma
#

but sone groups out there just like to play it very slow and safe. I saw r5b1 3h clears abd i am fine with that

late karma
#

allthough i would like a 3h E tier pe

hidden path
#

I've made modded levels where people either take too long or just complete it in less than 30 minutes

hidden path
#

E1 PE would be awesome, but at the same time it means at least one of the side objectives will be a reactor lmao

raw shard
#

heat was made by criscriscris

hidden path
#

Yepp

sharp siren
#

Sector 21

hidden path
#

Mine is still in renovations

sharp siren
#

Nk thats flow i think

hidden path
#

Because burnout

sharp siren
#

Oke

hidden path
#

No no it's called Integer

#

It's somewhere there

sharp siren
#

Based rundowns are sector 21, heat, chrysalis

hidden path
#

Sector 11 isn't too bad

raw shard
#

Do you mean sector 11

sharp siren
#

Im sure it was 21

hidden path
#

Heat suddenly turned into an F tier terrarium

sharp siren
#

Tweaking...

late karma
raw shard
#

I miss lockout 2 ;-;

late karma
hidden path
#

And Chrysalis uh... I don't like the charger spam

raw shard
#

F1 was too cool

hidden path
#

Lockout 1 was my fav

sharp siren
#

There really isnt that many chargers tho

late karma
raw shard
#

On chrysalis? Have you played it?

sharp siren
#

Its just the running gag

sharp siren
raw shard
#

I ran through it with cconsole and it does certainly feel like it on some levels

hidden path
#

Mccad retired and isn't coming back afaik

sharp siren
raw shard
#

I'm not blaming him for not having much enemy variety when the base game itself doesn't have any

sharp siren
#

Woops wrong answer

late karma
hidden path
#

I mean true

raw shard
#

I think he might fix lockout 2 after rundown 8 yeah

pine root
hidden path
#

Which is a problem I ran into, so tadaaa, I'm making custom enemies now. Although they'll be fair and balanced unlike Fatal lmao

pine root
#

maybe 1300 more tbh

raw shard
#

I mean that's a little excessive lmao

late karma
pine root
#

na i think Dovikin has it right

wicked solstice
#

ah yes

raw shard
#

he said he had something planned for after R8

hidden path
#

Honestly I'd love an immortal scout, like the Greg scout from Lockout 2 F1

wicked solstice
#

fair and balanced

raw shard
#

greg malice

hidden path
#

Like a scout you cannot kill and cannot wake up

raw shard
#

greg's labyrinth was the funniest shit we've had in modded

late karma
opal steeple
#

Regarding psychosis as a feature. Starting it off with sounds, then ramping it up to the sounds of waves beginning, to sounds of enemies nearby pulsating, to enemies actually attacking you then to actually taking damage from increased heart rate, then actually seeing fake enemies (or seeing enemies and team members as different to what they are, e.g. seeing a scout as regular enemy) to straight up seeing the environment totally differently to what it is

hidden path
wicked solstice
#

man Zander it feels so good to have D4 done

#

aaaaa

hidden path
wicked solstice
#

yeah, glad to have put it out

sharp siren
#

It will load up skyrim if you trigger it

hidden path
#

On the other hand it doesn't feel good having nothing done

#

The pain is real

opal steeple
#

Run windows media player and play a fart noise

sharp siren
wicked solstice
#

oh lol I meant my D4

sharp siren
#

Oh lmao

raw shard
#

I love opening vs code for 4 hours and then closing it with no work done malice

wicked solstice
#

which ig is kind of similar to vanilla D4 tho

sharp siren
#

So people can do pluggings in peace

hidden path
#

Good thing is we won't have to worry about stuff breaking in the future after R8

raw shard
#

no weetspin

shut vapor
hidden path
#

The bad thing, everything will break and we don't know if plugin devs will end up fixing their masterpieces

wicked solstice
#

don't say that

#

things could break

raw shard
#

Not all plugins break every update

wicked solstice
#

yeah

hidden path
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Like after R7 AWO wouldn't get updated until like 3 months later or something

raw shard
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awo will be fine