gtfo-chat

[junior latch]

maybe less

[little ridge]

Way way too big

[sacred briar]

i can claim i’m in the top 500 :0

[junior latch]

try to think of people who do that easily

[little ridge]

Which E-tier had biggest clear rate?

[steel marsh]

oooo like in full metal alchemist! (please tell me someone gets this)

[junior latch]

R7E1

?

[sacred briar]

r7e1

[junior latch]

maybe an ALT

[little ridge]

on what? 4%?

[junior latch]

idr

[little ridge]

out of all expedition

[burnt flume]

I have not watched FMA, so no luck with me

[little ridge]

so even less if you consider all the players

[balmy moat]

Is that the actual acroynm tho

[little ridge]

who didnt unlock it

[balmy moat]

That's what I was tryna figure out on stream man

[junior latch]

i dont remember

is idr

or "i dont recall"

[little ridge]

International Double Revolver

[steel marsh]

anyone wanna do r5d1

[junior latch]

just consider how many people are on here

obviously only a fragment of that

are actually playing or have been playing enough to count

[balmy moat]

But it can mean "I don't really" like idrc

[mint light]

I side with the fake latvian on this

[little ridge]

Istrionical Dominating Railgun

[balmy moat]

Just without care

[junior latch]

but that still leaves you with several dozen thousand people

[burnt flume]

on its own it's I don't remember/recall

[steel marsh]

fuck now i need 3 i cry

[burnt flume]

idrc is a different acronym, can't think of any other idr- acronyms

[sacred briar]

i died reefsliding

good special :)

[little ridge]

anyone remembers pebkac?

[junior latch]

idrc for me is "i dont really care"

[mint light]

Is that something or someone?

[little ridge]

an acronym

[mint light]

Something then

Well: idr

[rose nova]

wow like gtfo !
wait

[junior latch]

grab tacos for obama

yes

[little ridge]

Gauda, Toods, Fackett, Oishop

[torpid rose]

@unreal crystal B+ BAC: 0.08
A- BAC: 0.16

get more drunk pls

[unreal crystal]

we gotta figure out the optimal amount of alcohol

for my best performance rick

[torpid rose]

60% rum with coca cola

maybe 200mL of that

[obsidian abyss]

will d4rkeva (D4) ever speedrun with us

[unreal crystal]

coca cola is a must have for sure

[coarse grail]

Yep

[little yoke]

anyone know how to get the achievements

[rose nova]

they test achievements

they cant b unlocked

[little yoke]

wait

wrong question

[rose nova]

oh

[little yoke]

when will it be out :v

[rose nova]

... the normal achievemts? we dont know :b

i woulnt bet on seein em soon tbh

[sharp owl]

no promises

[mint light]

they dunno if they will ever release em. they just testing stuff

[visual lily]

COCA COLA ESPUMA

[fast bobcat]

I wish they added some sort of subsonic rifle meant specifically for taking out targets like Scouts and Giants without waking anything else up.

[sharp owl]

its called a hammer, hits a target at 500kph

[fast bobcat]

Cool, can it one-tap a giant with a fully charged swing to the back of the head?

Without melee buffs/debuffs.

[pine root]

no two tap

[fast bobcat]

Saddening.

[rose nova]

pesi pesi
pesi
pesi cola pesi

[burnt flume]

@sharp owl bat isn't really any better than hammer at killing giants, it staggers a lot though

[sharp owl]

maybe noob friendly or easier to use might be a better description

No thought has to go in timing, charge and hit a limb

[pine root]

I hate to say this is you can move and charge at the same time hammer is the same

[burnt flume]

spear is probably the easiest/safest giant killer

[pine root]

Just don’t stand inside of the giant

[burnt flume]

but yeah it's literally the same, maybe there's a little less micro for your positioning but

hammer full charges still light stagger giants

[sharp owl]

you don't have time for a full charge for a hammer

it could scream

[mint light]

you do tho

[pine root]

X5 stagger

[wraith marsh]

bat is the same as hammer but you dont have to eyeball a charge meter

[pine root]

You don’t need a full charge and if you are going for light stagger

[wraith marsh]

but also the hitbox is smaller

[mint light]

People keep trying to find stuff the other mêlee do better than hammer and keep failing ...

[pine root]

You have a chance of scream anyways

[sharp owl]

not with full limb breaks

also doesn't the spear have less damage than the hammer

[wraith marsh]

I do want to mention something to you

which you probably dont care about

/wont affect you

but uhh

as soon as you arent host

your giant solo will change somewhat significantly

[junior latch]

yup

[sharp owl]

:I

[wraith marsh]

you will have to take into account their direction not changing when they spin

and also the fact that you cant be as lenient

you wouldve got punched much earlier in that clip if you were client

[sharp owl]

their direction not changing when they spin?

what

[wraith marsh]

when you break a limb and they do some form of rotation

as client

[sharp owl]

yeah

[wraith marsh]

the direction they are facing

does not update till that is either over, or you stagger/break another limb

so where you get back damage

is not where you think

as host you follow the movement

as client you dont

it can get very fucky

[sharp owl]

:(

[wraith marsh]

but also youre a client, just get your friend to help lmao

[sharp owl]

yeah

but still what the hell

[wraith marsh]

aka why it doesnt really matter/you probably wont care

[sharp owl]

netcoad

[wraith marsh]

good job anyways

[sharp owl]

all the more reason to take a bat while not hosting

[wraith marsh]

you are doing very good

giant solo is not easy

(no scream, I mean)

bat encounters the same issues

if not worse since its hitbox is smaller

[burnt flume]

is solo hammer on client really that bad

[sharp owl]

but it's less fucky because you can reapply stagger way earlier, right?

[wraith marsh]

its not THAT bad but it takes some getting used to

[sharp owl]

you break a limb every second so that's no way it could scream

[burnt flume]

like I feel like it's normally fine, but then again I have kinda like, played client for 800 hours straight

[wraith marsh]

if youve played enough

[sharp owl]

it's like training wheels

[wraith marsh]

which generally you have by the time you do giant solos

[burnt flume]

I play client far more than I play as host

[wraith marsh]

you will understand how the rotation shit works

just from feel

[mint light]

Not really, hammer adds the damage and doesn't need full charge to stagger

[wraith marsh]

the problem with this is

as soon as you are caring about stagger over limb break

[sharp owl]

the bat can full charge before the hammer so that's not a fair comparison

[wraith marsh]

your solo is already over

its just rng whether or not it screams at that point

[mint light]

IHow much charge for stagger?

[sharp owl]

no that's not the point

It feels like you charge up damage faster with the bat

[mint light]

If the hammer applies stagger at 60% charge it might be faster than bat

[sharp owl]

the timing isn't as close because you can break the limb in one second instead of 1.2 seconds or whatever the hammer need

[mint light]

haven't tested it tho

[wraith marsh]

the other caveat of bat over hammer is

bat gets a bit over half the starting damage

[mint light]

This is simply disproven by having 2 players hammer a giant vs 2 players bat a giant. hammer will win every time

[wraith marsh]

you dont get the 60 damage starter on that giant

[mint light]

Solo Icwould guess as well actually

[sharp owl]

you're actually right

after 1 second the hammer has 12.4 damage

but the bat has 12

what the heck

why does the hammer feel like it needs so much more precision than the hammer

when it comes to the timing

in theory it should be even easier because it "gains" damage faster while charging up

[wraith marsh]

it doesnt technically gain it faster

hammer gains most of its damage towards the end of the charge

since its cubic scaling

[sharp owl]

weapons scale using cubic scaling

for real?

[wraith marsh]

ye

[sharp owl]

alright allow me to redouble my efforts and check that

[wraith marsh]

its (max damage - light)x^3 + light

with x being from 0 to 1 (1 being full charge, not seconds)

[sharp owl]

https://tenor.com/view/looney-tunes-daffy-notes-writing-gif-13673626

[wraith marsh]

precision multiplier and stagger multiplier use the same system

I do not know the exact time it takes to charge each melee weapon, so unfortunately I cannot help there

[sharp owl]

isn't this known in the wiki

Knife 0.5 Bat 1 Hammer 1.8 Spear 1.7

[wraith marsh]

oh sweet those are on there?

[sharp owl]

yeah

[wraith marsh]

nice

[sharp owl]

now i'm gonna need to like get a math degree real quick

[wraith marsh]

nah

just write the equation in google

[sharp owl]

yeah i'm just slow

so i need some time

something's going very wrong with that equation i think

for the hammer this would be y = (20-3)x^3 -3

but that gives like 100 damage for 1.8 seconds

[wraith marsh]

x is not seconds

its charge percentage

also its + 3

[sharp owl]

oh so

percentages as in 0.70 etc

okay

[livid gulch]

the woke

[wraith marsh]

ye

so 1 second of charge is (1/1.8) in terms of x

for bat its 1/1

etc

[sharp owl]

hammer's still faster nope

ok so after 55% charge (1 second) the hammer deals 6 damage

and the bat 12 since that's the max damage

so yeah would you look at that the bat does actually gain damage faster when charging

[vestal crystal]

@wraith marsh he also got the hitmarker show on the leg which means he hit the leg

[sharp owl]

so the bat's actually better lets go

[last parrot]

are melee multipliers also cubic/can i plug in the same types of numbers to also get a result

[sharp owl]

yes

[wraith marsh]

yes

so stagger on hammer is (17x^3 + 3)(2x^3 + 3)

[sharp owl]

damage times calculated stagger multiplier

[vestal crystal]

also i dont see a frame where the reticle gets big

[sharp owl]

how did you get a 2 there?

it has a 3x stagger light and 5x charged

oh the 2 is the difference

[wraith marsh]

(5 - 3)

ye

[sharp owl]

chill dude btw you're awesome i've always wanted to know how melees work

tysm!

[wraith marsh]

im glad that stuff is on the wiki, I didnt even know the detailed stuff was on there

ig tru got to it and I didnt notice

[sharp owl]

well i don't see the whole cubic thing being on there

oh it is

[wraith marsh]

its on the general melee page

[sharp owl]

._.

3rd grade reading comprehension

now the real question is can you do this with a knife

[wraith marsh]

no

hitbox is way too shitty

otherwise it would be possible

[sharp owl]

hm

[wraith marsh]

I am not salty about this

definitely

[sharp owl]

i completely believe you

your name is chill dude

how could you be salty

the reason is that 2 charged knife hits are 11 damage

should be able to break a limb

the london special

i literally almost pulled it off

is there a better map to practice this on than r3a2

with instant access to giants but maybe less of them and without fog

[mystic moss]

r2b2

well there isn't less giants, but it's instant and less fog

[rose nova]

r1c2 has a pair in the first zone?

but many smols too

[sharp owl]

thanks

why am i in hell

everything in r1c2 is super foggy and red

exactly like this actually #gtfo-media message

[rose nova]

wow :] is like that is also r1c2

[sharp owl]

oh lol i didn't notice

this does feel pretty close to impossible, it's incredibly difficult to hit the same limb twice

I DID IT

[wraith marsh]

I shouldve specified that its not impossible, but rather its so inconsistent that it might as well be

but hitting the clip would still be funny

[sharp owl]

yeah this was like the 15th try or something

also it didn't scream other sleepers were still sleeping in that room

not sure what happened and it stood still

[mystic moss]

scream canceling with knife limb break >.>

[wraith marsh]

it mightve been counting as being in the first room

cuz that is a full ass scream

[sharp owl]

ah maybe

[wraith marsh]

love how good giant arm hitbox feels with anything besides knife

and then you try to hit it with knife

and its just a horrible experience

[sharp owl]

yeah that's why i went for the legs

i think the best way might be head -> legs -> center torso -> 2 final stabs

since the torso can also break and stagger like limbs

[pine root]

best way is sholder hit full tap occi

6 times

very human

[sharp owl]

how does that work

[pine root]

invisible head

light stagger

[wraith marsh]

it doesnt stagger jish

[sharp owl]

???

[pine root]

it does????

does it not

[sharp owl]

invisibile head? what kinda tech is this

how deep is the melee rabbit hole

[wraith marsh]

oh wait yeah it does

but I dont think you can do it fast enough

[pine root]

very human

!

[sharp owl]

explain this to me please

[wraith marsh]

you have to jump and its a soft stagger

[pine root]

yup

i am aware

[sharp owl]

eggsplain plox

[pine root]

when you break the sholder

the head shot hitbox will still be ther

[sharp owl]

the head is there

omg

[pine root]

just invisible

[sharp owl]

very human indeed

jesus

[pine root]

just imgaine it like a mostly seeable shadow giant

[sharp owl]

why is that a thing lmfao

[wraith marsh]

is there something about giants chests having more limb hp

or stomach, not sure which

[pine root]

no hit box is

just stupid i think

[wraith marsh]

I know you can shoot it with 30 damage guns

and it takes 2 shots to break

[pine root]

like

[wraith marsh]

which makes no sense

[pine root]

r u sure

becasue there is a lot of hitboxes really close to each other

very easy to just miss one

and hit the other

[wraith marsh]

maybe, idk

can do some testing

[sharp owl]

so hitting a giant in the chest with the knife is also subject to hitbox shenanigans

[pine root]

yeah even the sholder hit

is stupid

[sharp owl]

between the legs could work since that's probably furthest away and it can break

[sharp siren]

Everything its subject to hitbox shennanigans 😔

[unreal crystal]

silence bullpup user

[sharp siren]

Helgun user stay coping

[sharp owl]

Silence hel gun user

[sharp siren]

BOOOO 0.3

[sharp owl]

i do not wish to be meta anymore

i just want to be happy

[sharp siren]

👻 0.3 charge u0 booo

[rose nova]

silence not machinepiss users

[sharp owl]

hel gun user

[rose nova]

[unreal crystal]

im gonna make it 0.4 blackdragon

just u wait

[pine root]

the invisible head is a thing on all striker modles just so you know

Even the small ones

[wraith marsh]

even shadow scouts!

[sharp owl]

i figured

[pine root]

shadow scouts is so funny

[wraith marsh]

its awesome, you can effectively "remove" their head

[unreal crystal]

i mean it works on chargers too does it not

[wraith marsh]

without killing them

[unreal crystal]

its just

[pine root]

it does

[unreal crystal]

u dont get a headshot multi so its pointless

but its funny

[pine root]

but why would you

[unreal crystal]

cause its STYLE

u love STYLE

right JISH

[pine root]

you right

fuck

[sharp owl]

but why would you want to do that

[pine root]

you dont

[wraith marsh]

you dont

its bs

[pine root]

XD

[wraith marsh]

cuz you look at the model after failing to kill it

and it has no head

which makes no sense unless you know how this works

[sharp owl]

the funny

hey guys look what i made!

scout screams

[pine root]

can you do it

on babies

????

[wraith marsh]

I have no idea

[unreal crystal]

no

probs not

u cant break any of their limbs beside head

[pine root]

oh

so sad

[sharp owl]

yeah that'd be weird

[pine root]

very useful tech just gone

[sharp owl]

babies have so little hp

[pine root]

i cry

[wraith marsh]

hm

ok I think I know what the fuckery is with needing 2 shots

[sharp owl]

so actually from a lore perspective this makes sense

[pine root]

do you want to know how many bullets it saves with hel rev

invisible head

[sharp owl]

the head just becomes a shadow head

[wraith marsh]

it MIGHT be invisible arm

does that exist

[sharp owl]

that would be not good

but i mean, probably

[pine root]

i think they just forgot to destroy the head object

on sholder break

[sharp owl]

no no

this is a lore thing

everything in this game happens for a lore reason

[modern coral]

Worth checking, but I think all hitboxes that are not head might linger.

[pine root]

Awww

[modern coral]

Actually, I can just drop rn.

[sharp owl]

the low FPS on destination is lore

[wraith marsh]

#gtfo-media message

I THINK it does

im assuming the second shot is somehow hitting the invisible arm

[pine root]

shoot

where you shot

from stealth

on full hp giant

[wraith marsh]

it does break

I checked that first

both chest and stomach

break in 1 shot from stealth

[sharp owl]

do we know how much hp limbs have

[wraith marsh]

15 for giant

[modern coral]

There is definitely an invisible arm hitbox.

[pine root]

USEFUL?

[modern coral]

On both ways of breaking armor as far as I can tell.

[sharp owl]

an easier way to test this is probably just

try and hit the arm

[wraith marsh]

I just dont get how its fucking with the clip

[modern coral]

I did, it's there.

[sharp owl]

oh cool

[burnt flume]

quick, someone test it with cconsole

[pine root]

i mean

we could ject check with unity

we could look at the objects

as they go by by

[wraith marsh]

lol

the hammer even shows the small reticle on where the arm is supposed to be

you love to see it

[sharp owl]

scienc

[pine root]

the only way this is usful

is if you are going for pens

in arm

and you need to hit max pen none hetting eaten

[burnt flume]

does invis arm not deduct from pen value?

[pine root]

na because arm is thin

[sharp owl]

wait what

[pine root]

so you get past the rest of arm

[wraith marsh]

if you shot through the side

it would

because it is hitting it

[sharp owl]

shooting a limb doesn't make a weapon with pen use up the pen?

can you just hit 20 sleepers in the hand with a hel rifle in one shot

[unreal crystal]

its more consistent

no

it still uses a pen

[wraith marsh]

no it does, idk what jish is saying

[unreal crystal]

but its less likely to use extra pens on the same target

[pine root]

?

[sharp owl]

good point

[wraith marsh]

are you referring to

extra pen used

or pen period

[pine root]

yeah

[wraith marsh]

ok

[pine root]

extra pen

[wraith marsh]

wasnt clear

[pine root]

is something is 1.0 units wide

[wraith marsh]

both from pachis question and your answer

[pine root]

it takes two pen

[unreal crystal]

typical hel rifle hel shotty user...

[pine root]

beth it is USFUL TECH

[unreal crystal]

what is

the arm or the hel rifle hel shotty

[pine root]

shooting through the arm

that isnt there

[wraith marsh]

its going in the STYLE GUIDE

[pine root]

you need to learn it

for hel gun to not be dead

[wraith marsh]

lmfao

right, I need to get all the pen value from my hel rifle for it to be good

[pine root]

yup very important

cant be wasting ammo

[unreal crystal]

i mean it is vaguely useful yes

tbh tho jish

its rare that i ever see a line of giants and im like

yea im gonna aim through the arms here

[pine root]

XD

u sure

[unreal crystal]

yes

[wraith marsh]

I aim chest, this is why I noticed the

issue of stomach or chest not breaking sometimes

[unreal crystal]

yea

[wraith marsh]

cuz I expect a limb break when im penning in order to not die

[unreal crystal]

this has been known

[pine root]

okay pitski joins your lobby spawns 15 giants

idk

seems like it could happen

any day

[unreal crystal]

i specifically remember this being an issue for me in og r3d1 chill

cause hel gun stagger was worse so limbs were more important

[modern coral]

Isn't this just hitting the ass hitbox?

[wraith marsh]

I noticed mainly in r5e1

[unreal crystal]

thats another

[wraith marsh]

please dont tell me theres a hitbox in this game that you can hit and cause 0 limb break

[pine root]

0.0

[wraith marsh]

I will cry

and then try to clip killing a giant with 0 limb damage

[pine root]

invisible hit boxes already do that

[unreal crystal]

i assume u know breaking chest means u cant break arms

that ones funny

[wraith marsh]

ye

[pine root]

this one is great

[unreal crystal]

its not so bad now

but in og i hated it with a passion

[modern coral]

Yeah, usually you hit it from behind but I just checked and it seems unbreakable from front.

It's like the lowest section of the body.

[pine root]

unbreakable ass from the front

[wraith marsh]

giant ass too strong

gtfo facts

[burnt flume]

Hips of steel

[unreal crystal]

ray knew what he was doing when he said hit it from behind

[modern coral]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H24RkuLxa28

[pine root]

gtfos best content creator

[wraith marsh]

I hate this

[modern coral]

I am the king of unlisted GTFO content.

I should just start making shorts

No explanation, just random 5-20 second tests.

[sharp owl]

That'd work

[unreal crystal]

rayalot views increase by 5000%

[wraith marsh]

mom scattergun silent shot stealth kill short, no one will have any clue what is happening

[unreal crystal]

how do u silent shot chill

[pine root]

baby silent shot

[wraith marsh]

I dont

[unreal crystal]

ok huge

[wraith marsh]

I dont think ive ever tried to do it intentionally

[unreal crystal]

ok but if u were to do it

would u just weapon swap

[wraith marsh]

yea

id hit my shove button

[pine root]

based

[wraith marsh]

cuz its my thumb button

[pine root]

Gamer

[unreal crystal]

pub way...

[modern coral]

You ain't seen nothing until you've seen quick switch silent shooting.

[sharp owl]

Forbidden knowledge

[wraith marsh]

ray did you see the mom silent shot kill clip

[modern coral]

No 👀

[wraith marsh]

lemme grab it rq

[pine root]

YOu gUy aRe Like fucking infomation dragons

smog sitting on gtfo tech

[unreal crystal]

LMAO

[pine root]

just like wesley

smh

[unreal crystal]

i honestly didnt have much luck with swapping weapons or shoving for consistent silent shots tbh

[pine root]

you are host

in 90% of the games

i play with you

[wraith marsh]

the more ping you have the easier it is

[unreal crystal]

i play client

theres a better way friends

[pine root]

there is

[modern coral]

Brooo, just the silent death sound.

[pine root]

i do know

but i dont understand how

[wraith marsh]

if I didnt have hp show on and there was no context

no one would have any clue wtf is happening in this clip

she just dies

[modern coral]

I feel like it's always a good host if I actually want to silent shoot.

[unreal crystal]

jish did u know its possible as host too

[modern coral]

But when I'm just switching weapons naturally?

EZ

[unreal crystal]

yea ray thats why i dont do it that way anymore

[pine root]

you have to do it on the front end

instead of the back end with some werid swing thing

but idk how never saw the screen of someone doing it

And everyone is a fucking gtfo tech dragon in this game

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[torpid rose]

relax

[modern coral]

Tbh I think the tech dragon thing is just the game being very hard to teach, even for basic tech.

[unreal crystal]

its an r2 thing jish

ppl love gatekeeping info

it makes them feel really big

[wraith marsh]

idk, sharing stupid tech is funny asf

[modern coral]

Explaining every little bug/niche mechanic is a bit much.

[pine root]

yeah but we are out of things to do

[unreal crystal]

this is the perfect time to do it ray

this is the phase of gtfo content

u know a game is dead when ppl start posting the dumbest shit

[pine root]

we put it on the wiki then people will have no idea what is going on

[unreal crystal]

i saw a sea of thieves vid about someone defending a fort of fortune with war crimes

or something

[torpid rose]

IM A R2 STRIKER RUNNING GX-2 AND A FULL SLASH

[pine root]

rick i struggle with reading

could you explain the joke

[unreal crystal]

can you stop talking to toxic clique please.

[pine root]

you dont want me talking to your freinds

unfo

[torpid rose]

stop giving us ammo gerzhull.

[unreal crystal]

The Australian will be most displeased jish

[pine root]

i understand this refence

[unreal crystal]

dont upset The Australian

[pine root]

okay could you explain the joke tho

[unreal crystal]

i cant

rick can

[torpid rose]

#gtfo-media message

[pine root]

oh you know this makes more sense

i thought i didnt know what words mean

[unreal crystal]

the worst part about these old message links is i go back and see beep posting back then

and it reminds me that hes existed here for so long

[obsidian abyss]

Rick

[outer lantern]

Peter

[torpid rose]

Peter

lets befriend ganyu

he was so pro

[obsidian abyss]

Dude

[torpid rose]

why dont you watch b apps

[obsidian abyss]

I really picked up it

He quintupled his kills in the last few rounds

[torpid rose]

LOL

"i have 2 hours"

PETER WHY ARENT U PLANTING

[obsidian abyss]

100% alt account too

Tells me to plant .5 seconds after first frag

[torpid rose]

LOL

mfer 1k dollar inventory

0.2kd

[obsidian abyss]

Rick I want to fucking play

[torpid rose]

we get robert on tmmr

[obsidian abyss]

I got no power

And no idea when it comes back

[torpid rose]

tmmr you have power

im sending 7 hamsters to your designated location

[unreal crystal]

peter play apex with me

ditch rick

[torpid rose]

can u give peter power

[pine root]

just dm address will send gas generator

gtfo themed

[unreal crystal]

im bringing him cell

[torpid rose]

ping cell_115

can i be honest

i think glp hormones give more power than cell

[obsidian abyss]

I'll play some apex with you gerz

Rick

[unreal crystal]

thanks peter

[obsidian abyss]

Remember "ping a,,op(acl"

[torpid rose]

LOL

"what zone is this"

"ping a,,op(acl"

[pulsar pebble]

hello

me and my friend bought gtfo recently

but this game is actually very hard to play with bots, we`re stuck in the R1C1 level

it`s a nightmare

[silk blade]

r1c1 is like that

where are you defending

[pulsar pebble]

we were defender in the reactor`s room until we search and realize we should be on the zones before that one

[silk blade]

the one with the bridge and the truck?

[pulsar pebble]

I don`t know, lol

[silk blade]

the enemies come through a hole in the wall rather than a security door?

[pine root]

no they hold in the wrong room

[silk blade]

i meant the room they moved too

also what loadouts are you using

[pulsar pebble]

where should we be defending?

[pine root]

the tile with the truck and hole in the wall

[rose nova]

the bridge

[pine root]

2 zones nefore reactor

[pulsar pebble]

ok, we'll be trying this

I just want to know, is it possible to play this game with only 1 team mate and 2 bots?

and beat all the phases

[pine root]

yeah

[pulsar pebble]

btw, thank you guys

[pulsar pebble]

we were using 2 sentrys, 1 c-foam and 1 bio detector

1 sentry of mine, and the c-foam with my friend

[pine root]

lose the c foam XD

[silk blade]

i wouldnt use c foam

also what sentries

also make sure the person holding off the waves has the 2 bots set to follow them, and not the guy whos running to reactor

[silk blade]

i dont recommend auto, they use too much tool for too little killing

bursts are better

shotgun too short range

sniper ok on bigs but eh

[pulsar pebble]

2 burst

[silk blade]

good

[pulsar pebble]

at least we were in the right path, lol

[silk blade]

u should use carbine if u arent

for main weapon

cause carbine is insane

[silk blade]

true, i had to convince some people on my team the first time i did r1c1 to not take autos

we failed it like

6+ times before i was able to convince them

another thing is to remember where each resource is so you can grab them between waves

you can run back to defense spot from the start of the level without enemies catching you as long as you start heading back with 10-20 seconds left on the countdown to next wave

[pulsar pebble]

ok

[trim sail]

r1c1 is a good level to learn how to coordinate better

despite being a pain in the ass for some people

i'd still recommend it for newbies to try it again and again

with different strats if possible

[pulsar pebble]

my problem is that it's only me and my friend playing

we're struggling to menage the bots and coordinate ourselves, just as you said

we're coming from l4d2, it shouldn't be that hard, lol

[rose nova]

u can nab all the bots, make em follow u n ur friend can go to input commands, that way if u can push forward early u have more guns if theres enemies
plus input the code as late as possible to have more time to loot

[vernal nebula]

Make sure to give one of the bots bio tracker if you aren’t already, one of the few things they’re good at

[hot veldt]

yo im new

whats good

been trying to go solo and im getting owned

[rose nova]

haiii
yeah is pains but fun

[latent palm]

lol

[hot veldt]

yea it is fun

i tried playing it like left for dead 2

got clapped by a big guy

7 foot mf ate me

[latent palm]

how bout duo

im down lol

[hot veldt]

tmr at 12am EST im down

thanks dawg

[latent palm]

estern time?

[hot veldt]

yea

[latent palm]

u from SEA?

[hot veldt]

nyc

[latent palm]

im half the world from u lol

[hot veldt]

rn im basically in canada for uni tho

in buff

[hot veldt]

oh sick where u from?

[latent palm]

🇻🇳

[hot veldt]

nice

im originally from china

asians 😎

[latent palm]

[hot veldt]

[glacial shard]

Any smart guns planned or no?

[rough robin]

this aint aliens

[wraith marsh]

smart guns?

like homing or

[crimson oriole]

like the autolocking guns from titanfall 2?

[glacial shard]

low damage guns that aim for you

although Cyberpunk allows for a Smart Sniper rifle

[rough robin]

sentry guns

[wraith marsh]

thats called a sentry

fuck

[rough robin]

TOO SLOW BUD

[wraith marsh]

we dont know whats planned but its unlikely

[rose nova]

games defo not, interested on those tbh skdmkm

[glacial shard]

Why don't guns have proper reload animations?

if you tac reload you drop whole mag

but if you dry reload there is no chambering

[rose nova]

cause, this game was made as like small scale, and im guessin they just didnt throught about those cause they had more issues to work on

[crimson oriole]

milsim likely isn't very high on the priority list

[rose nova]

and when the were free they, centered on other stuff

[glacial shard]

bug fixing isn't that high either

[rose nova]

yeah i mean even like makin it
like
makin the reload from a not empty gun and an empty one last the same amount of time

would b funk

[rose nova]

thats why they dont have, time for that stuff ksmdkm

[rough robin]

guns just aren't really based in reality

some guns do rack on reload, but doesn't matter if they're empty or not

[glacial shard]

why does my gun load a 29 round mag instead of 30 when I got the ammo?

[pine root]

Tbh we have gotten quite a few bug fixes in the last couple patches

Decimal

[glacial shard]

it's a bug

[pine root]

Funny rounding error

[crimson oriole]

maths is hard

[livid gulch]

ah yes I want Hel Rifle irl

[rough robin]

assault rifle moment

[livid gulch]

invent it 10cc

[pine root]

Luna why you still using ar Oof

[rose nova]

hey is fun qwq

[glacial shard]

also the hell am I shooting that needs a drum mag for 30 rounds?

[rough robin]

the springs are so bad there's like 2 full inches between each round

[rose nova]

i no like drummags

[glacial shard]

8mm bullets?

[dry lion]

the bullets are just loose in there and they get pulled up one at a time with magnets

[rose nova]

smh why the revo so unbalanced all the weight is at the front

[wraith marsh]

I think theres

more important realism questions

like why are there no bathrooms

tbh

[crimson oriole]

amazon

duh

[rose nova]

smh why the back of the precision rifle is so weak

[livid gulch]

it's Amazon

yeah

[pine root]

Because the Kso agent normally shows up with the poop bucket

[rough robin]

all operatives are fitted with the Poop Tube

our 4 included

[wraith marsh]

schaeffer was the poop bucket guy

[dry lion]

they don’t get food or drink it’s very efficient

[wraith marsh]

thats why hes so angry at the warden

[crimson oriole]

the tubes in the masks are for recycling the dirty air?

[pine root]

XD

[wraith marsh]

it all makes sense now

[crimson oriole]

we're all ergot

[glacial shard]

okay milsim aside, why do x1 sights have zoom in?

[dry lion]

what if all the bathrooms were right where they dug that big hole in the middle that u drop down

[glacial shard]

but punish hipfire?

[dry lion]

when u focus ur eyes feel closer it’s not actually zooming you just think it is

[glacial shard]

my screen zooms in

[dry lion]

you think so but it’s actually a clever trick

[glacial shard]

there is actual zoom in

[dry lion]

just a very interesting psychological effect

[rose nova]

dies

[dry lion]

why am i orange

[rose nova]

cause ambassador

[dry lion]

what !! is that

[rose nova]

u know what is :3 is u orange

[dry lion]

true i am orange

[rose nova]

very orange of u

[livid gulch]

sounds like a question for a modder

do iron sights still zoom in or nah?

[rough robin]

iron sights default your FOV I think

higher FOV the more you zoom in

[livid gulch]

ah okay
playing at 100 FOV
then it changes to 55 FOV on aim

[glacial shard]

-punishes hipfire
-zooms in your only way of shooting sleepers on your ankles

[rough robin]

I play at 60 and ADSing barely changes

[rose nova]

not all guns punish hipfire

[rough robin]

if a sleepers at your ankles sounds like it's the perfect scenario for hipfire

[rose nova]

some u can just go brr on the enemy

pdw hel rifle shotties [all shotties, all of em] machinep if they close...

[timber tinsel]

I completed R3A3 hitless~!!

[glacial shard]

is cfoam a war crime?

[modern coral]

It is legal, but immoral.

[glacial shard]

mines are also a war crime

[modern coral]

Illegal, but morally permissable.

[glacial shard]

mines got to be manually triggered, automated ones might hit civilians

[latent palm]

real

[little ridge]

To whoever pinged me, I dont want to scroll up that much.

[mint light]

It should, you are in a totally different ballpark. Also keep in mind the game is made for 4 people any less you will struggle, the game won't hold back

[latent palm]

Lol

No wonder youre so tired all the time

[latent palm]

Man this chat dead as hell

Quickly @earnest forge say something funni

[normal lake]

you can also click the button at the top right of your screen beside the ? and its your inbox, sort by mentions and it will show you all your recent mentions

even read ones

[latent palm]

Imagine ppl actually doing that

[normal lake]

i only do it when i click on a channel and it instantly clears the ping as read

fucking annoying when it does that

[glacial shard]

Hey subtonix

have you cleared the game?

[normal lake]

a lot of it but not all of it

[mint light]

R5 left??

[normal lake]

a lot of r5 levels where giving me issues because of bots and due to my refusal to do pubs i dont get many opportunities to do r5 maps

r5 is my least cleared rundown

[mint light]

Shame

R5 will be the least cleared rundown (if they ever release stats again)

[normal lake]

it will happen one of these days but rn im just focused on the content of the game i actually enjoy

[mint light]

Unless R8 is back to hard content

[normal lake]

bots not standing in scans or generally just being bots was such a major issue for r5 that me and my friend just kinda decided it wasnt worth it to do duo for the maps

[glacial shard]

[mint light]

Fair. you could find two more regulars so it won't be pubbing

[normal lake]

i have another two regulars its just a difference in sceduling right now

[mint light]

Ah yes I understand that all too good

[normal lake]

you got someone working night shifts, you got me and a friend in college, and another is working and doing school

[mint light]

I have huge trouble syncing with my mates for Occlusion

[normal lake]

so usually me and my irl college buddy play duos

since we have very similar schedules its very easy to make time for it

[mint light]

understandable, yeah R5 ain't gonna be it for most then

[normal lake]

bots being required to scan is the single biggest killer for me completeing levels with them

altho this issue is mostly a r5 issue

ill def be doing r5 in the future, i plan on completing all game content one of these days

well almost all there are a few maps i refuse to finish due to bugs like r7d1 secondary

[mint light]

Just do the leave thing

R7D1 honestly is pretty easy when you get just the one

[normal lake]

its not just that bug for me, its all the other bugs in that level and just genuinely not enjoying the level

there are a lot of factors for that level where im just like "yeah its not worth my freetime"

[mint light]

Ah well I am the lucky one who never had another bug besides the ovl one

[normal lake]

yeah idk why i had so many issues with that level

[mint light]

Idk, I have only 3 or 4 clears tho on that one so meaby just did not play it enough

[normal lake]

since i last played r7e1 like 6 months ago i think ive had a total of 4-5 4 man sessions of gtfo so idk when ima do r7e1

bots are anything but viable with that level

[mint light]

R7E1 tho should be no issue. by now a lot of players can do it pretty consistently

[mint light]

I would think at least

[normal lake]

oh i dont think beating that level would be a problem at all

[junior latch]

secondary ?

[normal lake]

i just dont wanna do bots

[normal lake]

yeah ovl

[mint light]

don't

[normal lake]

kinda forgot it has no secondary and just has a overload rather than just being a main and a secondary

still dont get why skip to overload tbh

[mint light]

Only level to do that and it's weird

cause it could be a sec

like nothing says it should be ovl

[normal lake]

yeah id get it if it was like overloads are meant to be harder than secs

but there are many cases where a secondary is leagues harder than a overload

[mint light]

Yeah but that ain't the case

[normal lake]

dont plan on it, one of these days ill be able to do it with a 4 man with my current team but it may be a while

not that im in any rush to finish the game

[glacial shard]

OwO

[mint light]

Got time R8 ain't out even

[normal lake]

god knows when it will be

[glacial shard]

2024?

got to make the entire Rundown 1% clear rate

[mint light]

I hope

[normal lake]

id like it to be hard af since it is a rundown that closes off the game

[glacial shard]

we ball

[normal lake]

but at the same time if it is hard idk if id ever finish it since bots are not viable in levels of that diff

i predict i will have this game full cleared in about late 2024 or early 2025 depending on r8 difficulty

once i clear all content i can do as a duo without major pain its just up to frequency of 3 and 4 man sessions

and im pretty close to that barrier already kek

[mint light]

Oh you will clear the game for sure. A lot of people won't.

And that's fine

[coarse grail]

just 3 more levels for me :3

[mint light]

🥳🥳🥳

[mint light]

R6?

[normal lake]

i have a fair chunk of r4 and more than half of r5 left, for r7 i have a few alt objectives that i found particularly difficult and r7e1, and i have like 3 levels left of r6

[coarse grail]

R6D2, R6D4, and R5E1

the former I just haven't gotten to

the latter I've made a few runs at but still learning the level

[junior latch]

i technically still need to do R6C3, D2, D3, D4 and BX/CX

[normal lake]

oh and r2d2 + r2e1 due to sheer laziness of not wanting to do the reactor level

[mint light]

R5E1 is nice but got nerfed recently so haven't done the new version

R6D2 and R6D4 will be ez pz for you

[normal lake]

got tilted the other night because r6d2 decided to be funny and not turn off the fucking error and called it a night after that

still a bit tilted about that one

[mint light]

Interesting. a bug?

had the right terminal?

[normal lake]

yeah right terminal, entered code it did all the shit where it acted like it would turn off error

and it never did

[mint light]

Hmmmm

weird ass shit. will go into the level and see if that's a consistent thing

[normal lake]

we didnt plan on using the checkpoint and just did error before hand because didnt feel like back tracking

was a mistake

[mint light]

Nah you should do error before CP. it's not worth it to redo it if you wipe

[normal lake]

we never intended on using the cp anyways

[mint light]

personally I would take the wipe on the bug than redo the Error every time

[mint light]

In that case ...

[junior latch]

getting to error takes like 10 min yea

at most

[mint light]

Could have gone for mother zone as well

[junior latch]

theres rly not much stealth to do that could slow you down

[mint light]

and skip error altogether

[normal lake]

oh you dont have to do both

lmfao

[mint light]

No there is more terminals than needed codes

[junior latch]

you can choose

[normal lake]

didnt realize that was the case

[junior latch]

the only mandatory thing is one of the 2 starting zones

[normal lake]

ahh the joys of playing blind

[mint light]

But mother zone is arguably worse than error tho

[junior latch]

???????????

TERMINAL

[normal lake]

mind you i didnt fully understand the objective until post momma zone

honestly we found the error significantly harder than momma zone

the mom zone literally was free as fuck

[mint light]

Wasn't in OG. C scouts and 4 moms

[normal lake]

really?

are we talking the same mom room at the beginning of the map

[mint light]

Yes and the basic sleepers sprinkeled as well

[normal lake]

surely we are not talking the same zone

[mint light]

NO after the CP

[normal lake]

okay

i was gonna say

[mint light]

the one at start is mandatory

[normal lake]

holy shit thats one brutal nerf

[mint light]

and is easy

After CP you have 2 zones with mothers, sleepers C scouts darkness

did it once, never looked back

[young fiber]

ive just bought the game and complete the tutorial, do i jump into the rundown 1 or 7

[mint light]

R1

[junior latch]

its 3 zones btw

[normal lake]

yeah i thought you all where talking it was optional to do starting mom zone or the error alarm

[mint light]

Ah yes 6 moms right?

[junior latch]

smth like that

[mint light]

my bad

did it once so that's the one part of the map ..... I do not know well

[normal lake]

yeah that class 5 alarm in the error zone was rough but its not that bad

[mint light]

The Error always felt way easier and especially faster for me

cause the mom zone well: stealth

or you yolo it

[normal lake]

never went past error because after alarm continued was tilted enough to just be like nah im done

also yeah i remember now the mom zone at the start has a mandatory cell

ofc its a mandatory zone

short term memory loss moment

[mint light]

cell van also be gotten from infection zone

tbh

there is one in the 6 C scout room

iirc

[normal lake]

infection zone had a fog turbine so we decided to do that

we did both zones

simply cus that reason

guess you can choose

turbine was far from useful tho

[mint light]

In sec you turn of the infection, which means you can also fo infection zone after sec and have no infect fog ... at all

[normal lake]

lmfao

[junior latch]

the turbine is litteraly only for that zone itself (and potentially secondary)

[mint light]

But I mean the backtracking

[normal lake]

i could care less for infection

but if i can avoid getting infected but it cost a few minutes ill just do that

[mint light]

I would advise doing both starter zones anyways and then choose between mom and error

[normal lake]

nah im going to rush error and do it first

now that i know that shit bugs out

[mint light]

well sec is a bit more than a few minutes

it's fun tho

[normal lake]

i aint wasting my time doing fog then leaving my run up to chance

[mint light]

need a cell tho 😏

[normal lake]

mom room is a quick 3-4 minute clear

[mint light]

Ah in that way. yes then mb

[normal lake]

prob get back to the error in 5-10 minutes

[mint light]

yeah the T scan is easy

[normal lake]

chargers in that class 5 are wildin so ill prob choose cfoam as a tool

[mint light]

Dak reused it for his rundown but there it slaps

[normal lake]

honestly 2 bots in that class 5 charger alarm makes that alarm fucking brutal

shit came down to the wire

them waves where relentless

[mint light]

I used to perm foam the door

and be done with it

[normal lake]

id like to avoid doing that but honestly i think its just the play here

those waves of chargers are dense

[mint light]

Well in a team of 4 you can put down 2 sentries and one guy can solo hold

with hel gun or hel rifle

[normal lake]

man it most certainly did not feel that way

[mint light]

Cause they line up

[mint light]

We did it

[normal lake]

as a two man we could barely hold the alarm back combined

[mint light]

He needs to be outside of the room tho looking into the corridor

In the scan room they go all over the place

[normal lake]

thats honestly a solid af strategy

[mint light]

so you can't line em up

[normal lake]

yeah we held in scan room since i didnt think we would be able to defend the first wave otherwise due to starting team scan