gtfo-chat

[mint light]

@little ridge go babediboop

[sharp owl]

I'm having fun

Did r3a1 solo bolo and once i got to thr end alarm the game decided to inform me that actually you need the neonate

Thanks warden

Dickhead

[mint light]

It tells you as soon as machine is done

should have read

[sharp owl]

Damn

[mint light]

Eh

sorry m8

[sharp owl]

welp guess I'm not completing that level

The end alarm had hybrids so

[mint light]

So?

[coarse grail]

you can drop your baby and shoot a bit

its all good

[little ridge]

ciao, se ti serve qualcosa e mi vedi online manda pure un DM su Discord (gioco da parecchio)

[sharp owl]

I don't think I'll be able to manage it when I'm at walking speed

[mint light]

You already got the baby for free instead of grabbing it in R2E1 you should be thanking the warden 😏

[sharp owl]

it's an a tier level

gimme a break

i would expect no less from e

[mint light]

I mean the baby you get it in R2E1

technically at this point you should not have it, but.. game mechanics obv

[sharp owl]

oooh

[mint light]

can't lock out players from starting R3

[sharp owl]

the baby from e1 is the same baby

[mint light]

yes

[sharp owl]

that's cool

also it's very disturbing that they're just using babies as experiments

[mint light]

yes actual direct connecting stuff

only time it happens 😭

[sharp owl]

that's very uncool

[little ridge]

If you want there's also an Italian Discord Server for GTFO #hc-europe message

[mint light]

it is what it is

[mint light]

boobedibah 🤌

[little ridge]

Fettuccine spaghetti tortellini cappelletti 🤌

[burnt flume]

It's a one off spawn when you put baby in

Not actually an alarm with hybrids

[sharp owl]

oh.. okay

I'm just pissed because i got luck with cfoam nade + tripmine so the class 4 alarm was easy

and then i messed it up

i also dunno what guns to really take for this

I tried pump action + heavy smg, hel revo + high cal, machine pistol + combat shotgun

none of them went particularly well

[wispy bluff]

How comes?

What level again? What's the objective?

[sharp owl]

r3a1 neonate into CPR machine and neonate back to extraction during alarm

1 class 2, 1 class 4

the environment is very chaotic and close range which makes it hard

[wispy bluff]

I think I solod that one... Faint memories of it.

[wraith marsh]

hel revo high cal shouldve been fine

[wispy bluff]

Kinda like 7A1 only slightly more annoying.

[wraith marsh]

not much synergy between the guns but theyre both good ones

[wispy bluff]

Pure solo or bots?

[sharp owl]

pure solo

[wispy bluff]

Ah, explains.

[sharp owl]

that's the loadout that took me to the end

[wispy bluff]

That's outside of my expertise

[sharp owl]

but it's still so awkward to fight when there's no room

[wispy bluff]

With bots you just walk past enemies and let them have their dance with bots. Alone it's probably a giant pain in the ass.

[sharp owl]

i get swarmed very quickly and sometimes it's just like

what do i do

no matter how i shoot i'm gonna lose 50% hp

[wispy bluff]

HAR maybe?

Quick TTK for smalls, easy to handle

Delete, pick up, move

[sharp owl]

i find har hard to control

[wispy bluff]

You can try being extra big brain and prematurely place sentry at extraction point so you just have to get there

[sharp owl]

I'll probably do that

i like single fire weapons because of another reason which is that i don't need to pay attention to when things are dead and can immediately shift it to something else

like i don't need to shoot until i notice the orange hitmarker, shoot once and immidiately aim at the next thing

[jade iron]

I'd suggest pump or combat shotgun over high cal for this

high cal can do it but you may as well go for a special with more uptime

also har or an mg would make sense

for mains, imo just bring a good one

[sharp owl]

what's the difference between the har and the MGs

in purpose

[jade iron]

har is nimbler, more responsive

mg's get way more ammo

[sharp owl]

in a mag or in general

[jade iron]

veruta gets tons of stagger

[sharp owl]

like they have more total damage?

[jade iron]

more per refill

[sharp owl]

might just grab the veruta agian

[jade iron]

also more in a mag, though har gets reloads a bit quicker, so arguably it balances out a bit

fwiw I did r3a1 solo with hel revo + pump, I think

[wispy bluff]

HAR is just Arbalist MG without the wind up, smaller mag and quicker reload.
And slightly worse recoil too.

Versatile and easy to operate, but drops giants like molasses

[jade iron]

checked, it was hel revo + pump + burst sentry

[sharp owl]

for whatever bizzare reason i miss alot with the pump

[jade iron]

strange

I guess there's something about the feel of it that doesn't vibe with newcomers at first

note that you want centre of mass shots, not headshots

[sharp owl]

yeah

[jade iron]

I guess also they recently fixed a bug with the swap animation on shotguns which caused them to shoot at the floor

so if you haven't tried since alt r6, try again

[sharp owl]

Ik ik

It isn't the bug it's just something about thr shotgun

[jade iron]

also this is a good take imo

[sharp owl]

Maybe the large cone leads me to misplacing it

Oh, thanks

Yeah it's just less mental effort, the game is already chaotic so

[jade iron]

also teaches neat kills earlier than if you were to just mag dump with autos and have to slowly dial in what a neat kill is

anyway you got this

[little ridge]

Someone will correct me on this

but doesn't that alarm start only when you pick it up from the machine?

[wispy bluff]

Either that or when you insert it and the machine spits it out

[sharp owl]

No

Given how i never picked it up and it started

[little ridge]

👍

[sharp owl]

Probably just when the machine is done

[glacial shard]

I should probably leave E tier missions last

you know how I said I quit that one time near the end? Got corrected today and was told it was the midway point

I can't handle a 2 hour mission at any time

[wraith marsh]

If it was r2 you didn't get to the hard part then, though the last part is fast

2 hours also won't be e tier exclusive once you hit r4 and 5

[terse ice]

Man Im still trying to find one match for the past 3 minutes, it would be my first tho

[wispy bluff]

Oh yeah, E missions are brutal and take up to two hours if the team is not hurrying the fuck up.

With sole exception being R7E1. It's like 45-50 minutes.

[glacial shard]

my head hurts after 1 hour

[wispy bluff]

Yeah, same. Game's exhausting.

[glacial shard]

I am focusing a lot

[sharp owl]

in game matchmaking doesn't work all that well

[terse ice]

So I've noticed, gonna bug my friends to buy it so we can play I suppose

[wispy bluff]

PSA: matchmaking is dead because no one uses it. You have to find people through here.

[wispy bluff]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[sharp owl]

you could use the server which is the usual way

[terse ice]

Ahh, thank you guys

much appreciate it

[sharp owl]

we need a server browser

[wispy bluff]

We do. Don't hold your hopes though.

[mint light]

R2E1 is 1 hour and 15 min give or take

[glacial shard]

I didn't even have the baby by 1 hour and 15

[mint light]

That's just a slow team

[analog flicker]

That's if your team can move at a decent pace through the level.

Also that no one goes afk

[mint light]

Yes, obv it is team dependent

[analog flicker]

[mint light]

But 2 hours for R2E1 is pushing it

[glacial shard]

we got slowed by the game spaming shadow giants

[mint light]

That's taking A LOT of time

[analog flicker]

Anyone ever do the Longest Runs? Over speeding it

Without checkpoint

[mint light]

Longest runs?

[analog flicker]

Opposite. Take as long as you can. Aka just afk/kill time

Funny slowrun

[mint light]

Icdont have that time to waste 😅

[analog flicker]

Kek

[mint light]

That's normal in shadow zone

not rng thing

[glacial shard]

I tried to melee them

[mint light]

where they are within the zone. THAT is rng

[mint light]

valid strat

[glacial shard]

died 5 times

or 6

[analog flicker]

How to see shadow giants

[mint light]

If you coordinate with m8's you kill em off fast and clean

[analog flicker]

👍

[little ridge]

Perhaps R7E1 is the fastest since there ain't really a lot you can do once you ||pull Pablo or start reactor||

(of the E tier I mean)

[glacial shard]

it's impossible for me to beat R2E1 even with a full lobby

[mint light]

R7E1 is Def the shortest and is just slightly harder than R2E1

[balmy moat]

R7E1 is also resource gated (if not using res efficiency)

[mint light]

Now now, just practice and time

[balmy moat]

So you have to get it done and fast or you fail

[little ridge]

Yes that's what I meant

[balmy moat]

If you screw up any major portion of the level you fucked yourself

[little ridge]

R2E1 lets you ||open all zones before error for more res||

Which takes a long time

[wispy bluff]

And then wipe on 1:20:00 anyway

[mint light]

We melee'd 4th code tank and finished the level empty on last clear.

[wispy bluff]

I still get a headache

[glacial shard]

I literally get tired after 1 hour

[mint light]

But yeah it's tight

[balmy moat]

But you're more skilled than the average pub

[glacial shard]

devs have no concept of time making missions this long

[balmy moat]

The average pub would've failed expedition

[mint light]

Don't think so. I just play a lot

[mint light]

this is not long. you in for some treats in R5 my man

[balmy moat]

It's part of the challenging aspect too

[mint light]

there you will learn what is long

[glacial shard]

those missions are literally impossible for me

[little ridge]

On lenght being part of the challange I agree to an extent

[pine root]

You need to play faster the idea is most of these mission in r1 are less than 20

[glacial shard]

nah, make the maps shorter

[little ridge]

R5B1 PE is as hard as just doing main+overload tbh

[mint light]

Part of being good at GTFO is optimising your time on levels

You'll learn

[little ridge]

some sectors are a chore

[pine root]

They are short if you play at the correct speed

[glacial shard]

I can not play more than 1 hour

that's impossible if I don't speed run R2E1

[mint light]

Mish is right, levels feel long at first

[pine root]

R2e1 takes 40-35 minutes most of the time

[mint light]

But when you optimize you win a shitton of time

[mint light]

Make it an hour

[glacial shard]

show me where is R2E1 35 minutes

[mint light]

for pub. 1h 15

[mint light]

bruh

[pine root]

The speed run it is sub 20

[mint light]

it's out there

[pine root]

XD

[glacial shard]

that's faster than the fucking world record

[little ridge]

1h-1h15 sounds right tbh

[mint light]

Youtube it

[mint light]

Nah that's 22 I think

[pine root]

It is 19:57 or lower technically

[glacial shard]

them and what bullets?

[little ridge]

you can do r2e1 in less than an hour if everyone knows what to do and how to do it, and does it very well

[balmy moat]

Yes

[mint light]

oh snap

[balmy moat]

R2E1 speedrun WR is sub 20

[pine root]

Rick never shared the last mystery time

[balmy moat]

I see completion times typically around an hour in LFG

I average around 40-50 minutes

[glacial shard]

so R2E1 in uncompletable for me

thank you devs

[mint light]

look GTFO is a game where you can spend 7 hours on a 35 min mission, you just need to learn to be one of the guys doing it in 35 min . Ivam not talking about speedrunning. Just efficiently clearing

[little ridge]

Which is fine, runs dont and shouldn't need to be even close to the speedrunning times (referring to around 1h clear)

[mint light]

yeah cause that 35 min level will be a 7 min level in the speedrun

[balmy moat]

Are you slow stealthing rooms?

Might wanna try practicing fast stealth

[mint light]

It is not, you need to do the map till you know it and go faster and faster

[latent palm]

why sneak when u can walk through em lol

[mint light]

and your 2 hours becomes 1 hour

[glacial shard]

in 6 months?

[mint light]

He still on that, it was hard to have him see it is the way to play

[glacial shard]

I literally have to quit after 1 hour

[mint light]

meh more like a try or 20 to 30

So in a couple weeks

[glacial shard]

I play worse than a vanilla bot past 1 hour mark

[mint light]

And luckily by the time you get it down the level will be done in that 1 hour

[glacial shard]

how if I am worse than shit at the mid point of the mission?

[little ridge]

Who was the guy that only could play for 1 hour because of Nvidia Game Ready whatever?

[little ridge]

You're probably under the impression that you are supposed to clear shit in one go

[glacial shard]

I don't even know what weapons to bring

[little ridge]

You aren't

You're supposed to fail until you know that map well enough to do it decently fast

[balmy moat]

You might want to brush on what each weapon's specialty is

It helps alot to knowing what to bring

[little ridge]

Then you try your luck with LFGs until you get a decent group with decent chances of finishing it

point is, you're the only variable you can reasonably control

[glacial shard]

I can't control my luck/rng

and it's really bad most of the time

[sharp owl]

your luck?

[glacial shard]

my luck is getting 2 shadow giants butt to butt

so room has to go loud

wasting ammo

[balmy moat]

You can mitigate your luck by compensating for skill

[glacial shard]

cause of my luck

[mint light]

It's not only your luck but that of your teammates, make sure you do what you supposed to

[sharp owl]

well then don't hit them

you're not supposed to solo a room

[mint light]

you can hammer those away with a decent team

you can also leave em

[sharp owl]

you can one shot one giant as a team and then clobber the other poor guy

[mint light]

don't need to clear the whole zone. only A and B need to be clear

[sharp owl]

also cfoaming enemies is really convenient

for stealth

[mint light]

I would not bring foam on R2E1

And it is rarely worth the tool

[wispy bluff]

But muh ladders

[mint light]

Redo it! now!

[balmy moat]

If you bring cfoam in R2E1 the only use case is ladder foam

[wraith marsh]

You can use it for the first and the error surges (mainly first in error) but it's not really worth it

[wispy bluff]

Same vibe as LowTierGod telling me to KMS

[mint light]

Uhm he might have gone overboard

[hard gyro]

bring pdw+sniper :3

[mint light]

He'll have a hard time on the error

[hard gyro]

what enemies come on the error?

[mint light]

Smalls. your sniper is useless

[hard gyro]

use knife

[mint light]

He also needs the ammo

[hard gyro]

also there are 3 other people on the team >.<

[mint light]

So hammer the giants

so no knife

[mint light]

That's what we were saying !!!!

[hard gyro]

^_^

but if he wants to solo the giants just snipe em

specially with lag, they hit you 1 second before the animation even starts smh

[mint light]

needs the ammo later

too many to snipe em off

[hard gyro]

have 2 ppl bring spears/hammers

[wispy bluff]

Literally doesn't matter

[hard gyro]

and 1 sniper for when he gets his back 2 back strikers he has to solo kill :p

[wispy bluff]

Eventually your realise nothing matters. Just keep shooting and trying new lfg squads, eventually it'll work

[mint light]

Ah Artek is down

[hard gyro]

yup, u can use literally any gun

krill issue

[trim heath]

sniper on r2e1 is a waste of a weapon slot imo

[mint light]

I don't think Barn has been in R2E1

he is forgiven

[trim heath]

oh nvm thought convo was still on that

[hard gyro]

i dont remember it, i have beaten it 2 times but i dont know how it is tbh

i have like 1mb of memory in my tiny ass brain

[sharp owl]

how do you deal with an alarm that makes you go like straight into the enemy hoard

like to the extent that it's telling you to stand where a giant is sitting

[mint light]

Altho imo Sniper is almost always a waste of a slot

[trim heath]

eh certain missions its fine

[mint light]

but that's personal. I know some folks like it

[trim heath]

I dont use it anymore tho its kind of a crutch

[hard gyro]

people use it becasue it's fun

[trim heath]

if you need it to deal with bigs thats fine, but some levels dont have bigs

[mint light]

Shoot the giant and it ain't there anymore

[rose nova]

snipers ok on most missions but also is every other special as long as u have a full team

is one slot that is just specialized

[mint light]

That's the point I NEVER needed a sniper to deal with bigs

[rose nova]

on some levels it sucks ass on others is wonderful tho

[ionic pollen]

All this r2e1 talk has given me the craving for that sweet misery again

[wraith marsh]

If you're still soloing you don't force those scans

Clear first

[mint light]

I think luna is attempting again

go for it

[trim heath]

I need to try it again

[rose nova]

nom nom e1

[trim heath]

got like half through the error segment last time

[mint light]

what level tho?

[rose nova]

last time i went to that level i had pre buff pr n bullpup

[sharp owl]

it can wait, there's already another convo goin on

[wraith marsh]

Can go to a diff chat

[ionic pollen]

Lobby full already :/

[mint light]

Ah

well

[ionic pollen]

If I don't get my posse together for r4e1 this weekend imma lfg r2e1 myself

[wraith marsh]

Why are they trying it again so soon

Didn't they take an hour on r1b1 like

Yesterday

[mint light]

Dunno ask him later. he was saying it's impossible for him so kudo's for not giving up I guess

[wraith marsh]

Ig but it's throwing yourself at a brick wall

Instead of trying to learn

[mint light]

He wants to go too fast

like honestly he should be redoing R2D2 that will learn him way more

[wraith marsh]

Agree

[mint light]

THEN when he got that down it time to hit the R2E1 wall

but yeah meaby he gets lucky and finds a carry

[wraith marsh]

That won't fix the problem

[mint light]

Nope it will make it worse in R4

[wraith marsh]

I think the carrying ruined their perception of the game ngl

Sad

[mint light]

but at some point: his game his time his lobbies

[wraith marsh]

Ig

[mint light]

Shame tho

[wraith marsh]

I feel like they're ruining this game for themselves

[mint light]

This will eventually result in a ragequit probably

[wraith marsh]

But ig ppl ruined it for them

And it's not my responsibility anyways

[mint light]

Yep

[trim heath]

tbf I cant really say anything about carries

I'm probably a D tier player, E's are a little above my skill level rn

[mint light]

It will come with time

and practice

[trim heath]

my inexperience with foam in particular is a little embarassing

[mint light]

This is not stopping you from doing E's

[earnest forge]

As long as you are doing it better than Bishbot, you are fine

[trim heath]

did R7E1, cruising through the level, got to the end...woke up ||pmom|| because I didn't properly foam scout properly

before getting the last code

[mint light]

Can happen to anyone

[trim heath]

I mean

[earnest forge]

That is basically how you learn

[trim heath]

I also woke it up on the way in too

[mint light]

especially when the foam stacks and bugs out

[trim heath]

was distracted while going through the room and stepped on a sleeper

[mint light]

Ok so a bit of spacial awareness

that's ok

[trim heath]

zero sense of direction lol, never follow me when running somewhere

[mint light]

Before you know you'll carry peeps through R4E1 without even looking back

[trim heath]

I think it'd have been fine if I was on sentry, + was the one with supply so adding in distribution in addition to doing the things that cfoam player does during the reactor was a bit much

getting there slowly tho

[mint light]

You don't need supply to do an E. it's good to have but relying on it is not a good thing

[trim heath]

finally branching out into the other melee weapons, was a knife main but I've since picked up the hammer and bat

[trim heath]

ye

ik its not necessary but I figured I'd take it since the rest of the group was more experienced and I expected I would make some mistakes. + I have like 6 of them still

[mint light]

That's absolutely fine I am talking bout folks not even willing to go down without and spending time farming boosters o A and B tier. If you do that... you have not understood shit bout the game

What you do is totally fine

[little ridge]

I've read about people "farming boosters" in lfg like three maybe four times at best

[trim heath]

yeah I only take em on levels that are either like D2-4's or E's for the most part, I dont feel a compulsion to use them otherwise

[little ridge]

I feel like nobody does

They mainly replay older stuff to pass the time

Maybe they do and dont post in lfg, I guess

[mint light]

I've seen the question asking what level is good to farm boosters more than enough in the chats

[trim heath]

I'll take like a special ammo booster or sth on R7C3 just for the oh shit button, but its not transformative

[mint light]

you are too naïve my latvian friend

[trim heath]

every time I've brought it I've never needed it

[wispy bluff]

When I farm boosters its just because I wanted to shoot some monsters and might as well roll some dice on the side for extra reward

Just go into any A or B, find LRF and keep it on at all times

Simple as

[mint light]

Tu quoque Artek??

[trim heath]

The Sun aka shiny rock detector

[wispy bluff]

It's insane how good it is for that

Damn things immediately jump into your eyes when you would've missed them otherwise

[glacial shard]

I need a fuckin brake

[dark halo]

Hey, does anyone know if bots are still bugged when interacting with carryables during an alarm sequence?

[little ridge]

vanilla bots, yes

well I didnt try since last update but I didnt see anything in the patchnotes

[last parrot]

bugged?

[rose nova]

they r

[rose nova]

can't pick up objective items during combat

[last parrot]

i thought that was intentional design

[rose nova]

um no

[last parrot]

damn

[dark halo]

So you're saying there are other flavours out there now 😏

[rose nova]

chocolate bots nom nom

[last parrot]

flavours of cheating

[quartz cape]

yum better bots

[sharp owl]

didnt bother and i dont think they will try since it has been an issue since alt r1 release

[glacial shard]

it's not cheating if there are levels better done with players

[mint light]

All levels are better done with players.

there were no bots at all in the game at first. It's still not possible to finish the game with them because the devs don't want to

[glacial shard]

sometimes LFG doesn't get me players for 1 hour straight

[mint light]

Like the devs say themselves bots are there to replace the one or max two missing players in a team.

It's on the store page

[unreal crystal]

I can help you luna

Let me amend my mistake

[glacial shard]

mistake?

[unreal crystal]

yes

the r3d1 incident…

[glacial shard]

not today, its 10:24 pm and I am already a beer down

[little ridge]

I want a new rule

[mint light]

Tell us o grumpy gramps

[little ridge]

People should never ask where the other guys are from if he doesn't say it first

[mint light]

Everyone knows you from Latvia.

but joking aside: tell him to f off

[little ridge]

last time I did that

[glacial shard]

is tomorrow okay?

[little ridge]

it was an Ukraining that believed me to be Russian since I didnt want to answer his question

(I'm Italian, for the record)

[mint light]

Poor lad

[mint light]

🤌🤌🤌

[unreal crystal]

Idk honestly it depends when I’m awake

[glacial shard]

do you know how to make pizza?

oh sleepo

[unreal crystal]

I’ll let you know I guess

[glacial shard]

k

I did notice I got calmer recently

game smacked me over the head for losing a lot

[mint light]

If you let yourself getting carried through R2E1 you will lose more later on.

[glacial shard]

we died on the second cluster door last time

I think only luck can save me

[mint light]

That's far from the end.

[mint light]

No you just need to learn and train

[glacial shard]

furthest I got to past getting the baby

[wraith marsh]

Stop making it luck

Learn the game

E tiers are way above you rn

Clears are not important

[mint light]

Its ok tho Imma leave you to your decisions and look forward to your R4 and R5 rants

[wispy bluff]

In retrospect I can hardly imagine how are you supposed to do the prelast surge scan without foaming strats

[wraith marsh]

It's the same as the first

[wispy bluff]

Room too big, scans take too long to even become scannable, enemies have too many routes of attacking and of course the fucking fog because why not

[glacial shard]

didn't Dna say not to bring foam?

[wraith marsh]

Except you get 2 room spawn

And hybrids

I think?

That one might not even have hybrids

You just need to save a set of repellers

[rough robin]

the giant room one, right before you leave the fog?

3 sentries + pray

[wispy bluff]

And the stupid error prevents setting up properly - by the time you start the scan the little assholes are already breaking down the cfoamed door

[mint light]

Just need mines and 2 bursts

[wraith marsh]

There are strats to avoid the breaking

Assuming you brought foam and managed to save the doors

So like

[modern coral]

In standard 4-man?

[wispy bluff]

Oh right

Forward spawns too

[mint light]

you can mine 3 doors making the alarm potentially almost free

[wraith marsh]

Not ideal

[wispy bluff]

Lovely little thing

[mint light]

You can play on those to avoid breaking your doors

[modern coral]

You can just position to get a good setup w/ c-foam. One person on door, the other 3 set up.

Clear a wave as you pull.

Foam all doors.

Meet on scan.

[wraith marsh]

Push spawn

Etc

Relies on saving the doors a lot

Unfortunately

[modern coral]

W/out doors, though, double burst is extremely good there.

[wraith marsh]

True

[wispy bluff]

Inconvenience upon inconvenience

[wraith marsh]

Pushing spawn still worth

[modern coral]

^

[wraith marsh]

Forces whole wavevup the ladder

[mint light]

Everyone grumpy today it seems

it's friday tho !

[wispy bluff]

I don't have fond memories of that level

[little ridge]

The day of fries!

[wispy bluff]

Except the basic scan in the room with the pit

Cute room

[mint light]

you are despicable

[wraith marsh]

I played it when I was much worse at the game

[wispy bluff]

Wish we got more of that

[wraith marsh]

And the ending

Was my peak experience at the time

[mint light]

you have fond memories of no level

that's the issue

[wispy bluff]

R6C1

[unreal crystal]

yea you would like that one

[wispy bluff]

Beating R6D1 on first try

[mint light]

Pretty fun but braindead. R6D1 is boring AF

[modern coral]

Fog skip, tho

[mint light]

From what I heard it's not even a challenge anymore

[modern coral]

Omfg

It was never that hard.

[wispy bluff]

Uhhh... I guess R6D2 got a vibe to it. Might be just my floodway bias though. If that was any other tileset...

[modern coral]

It's the same

[mint light]

haven't tested Alt myself tho so I refrein

[modern coral]

it's hard if you 4-stack Sniper

[unreal crystal]

or you play pubs

[mint light]

Heard it's a lot of shooters now

[unreal crystal]

but that’s pretty universal

[mint light]

instead of strikers

[modern coral]

DJ, that makes it harder.

You still get new waves, which is all that matters.

[mint light]

It doesn't , 2, 3 and 4 are now free

If it's shooters

cause they can't hit you there

Anyways haven't done the Alt D1 yet

[wispy bluff]

R7B3...
R7C1...
R7D2 of course.

That's about it.

[mint light]

so I will see for myself later

[wispy bluff]

R6BX (formerly CX) was very fun. Guessing a password with only 2 letters and turning off the alarm was pretty exciting.

[vernal nebula]

Got to the error alarm door in R2E1 yesterday. It's a really tough and tense level to cap off R2, love it

[glacial shard]

I do not

I am unsure if anyone on dev team has beaten all levels at how the difficulty curve goes

[rose nova]

the difficulty curve on r2 is fine
the difficulty in n out itself is the fuck

[wispy bluff]

Devs are friends and play together

[rose nova]

and not a fuck as a negative

[wispy bluff]

It's a major advantage. They're probably on the same wavelength.

Which is exactly what R2E1 needs.

You can't just brute force that thing some pubs that aim gud.

[glacial shard]

if original R2E1 had under 1% clear rate there was something clearly wrong making the mission unbeatable

[vernal nebula]

I understand that, it's a big difficulty jump from the previous levels but if you have a level-headed team with nearly everyone running thermal it's just managable enough where I still personally enjoy it

[wispy bluff]

It's an E, it's the ultimate challenge.

[unreal crystal]

og r2e1 was fucked

and everyone sucked balls back then

[glacial shard]

show me where those level headed teams are

[wispy bluff]

That too.

[unreal crystal]

so it’s not rlly surprising

[wispy bluff]

We have so many good guns now.

And boosters.

[mint light]

The game is not meant for the big market tho.

[unreal crystal]

the tiles in the error section for og r2e1 were harder imo

[glacial shard]

ah yes, 11% med efficency, I can heal 2hp more

[unreal crystal]

Especially that last zone

[glacial shard]

my boosters are ass

[wispy bluff]

Better than nothing.

[mint light]

Look you can blame everyone and everything but the only thing stopping you from finishing R2E1 is you . You don't need boosters, you need to learn

[glacial shard]

I can't beat it

there is no way

[wispy bluff]

That's normal

[mint light]

you can't now. you will later

[rose nova]

R2E1 havin a 1% completion was cause it was more limited time than the rest of r2, shadow giants were faster, the community was newer, the guns weren't as powerful as nowadays...

[wispy bluff]

Move on to other rundowns now, leave E1 for later

[rose nova]

it's still hella hard

but wouldn't have the 1% now

[mint light]

He finished R3

[steel marsh]

its not easy, its historically one of the hardest missions in the game. you will get it eventually :3

[rose nova]

move to r4 i guess then

[wispy bluff]

R4 time then. Still preferable to E1.

[glacial shard]

I doubt I will ever beat it but who knows

[unreal crystal]

E1 is fun tho

[mint light]

Easiest E tho. guess it makes it still top 4 then

[rose nova]

from 4 of the hardest levels in the game that's still high yeah

[mint light]

R4 will be a miserable time, he is unprepared

[rose nova]

eh then they will learn

[wispy bluff]

It's not even gonna hit until Cs

[mint light]

I agree he will learn more in R4 than bashing his head on R2E1 right now

[rose nova]

or they could do maybs r6? since is not as r4 hard but harder than r3?
idk

[glacial shard]

I won't ever be able to reliably headshot enemies when they drag their ass on the floor, crawl on the floor or naruto run

[mint light]

R6 would be the next easiest thing after R1 and R3

[unreal crystal]

u get used to it

[glacial shard]

is as if we are fighting weebs

[rose nova]

yeah that's, what i said KDMSKDM

could b an option

[unreal crystal]

u learn enemy movements and u can reliably headshot them it’s not too bad

Just takes time

[mint light]

I agreed with you! take it. it's rare

[glacial shard]

it's rng how they move

[steel marsh]

what loadout do you normally bring @glacial shard

[unreal crystal]

Nah

[rose nova]

it's not rng

[wispy bluff]

In times like these we default to HAR, no aiming for head needed.

[rose nova]

they have preset animations

[glacial shard]

I don't even know, got told my special is bad

[unreal crystal]

They run in a straight line or they intimidate and side step for a bit and then run in

[rose nova]

which special?

[glacial shard]

Heavy Assault Rifle

[unreal crystal]

the gun isn’t the issue

[glacial shard]

"Under performing"

[rose nova]

ah
nah

[unreal crystal]

You can use it and you’ll be fine

[burnt flume]

you can normally take your time to line up headshots on weapons that appreciate them

[mint light]

It was not the gun. they told you you were missing 60% of the shots so they redirected to something that might suit you more. nothing wrong with the gun

[burnt flume]

for weapons like heavy assault or whatever it's not quite as important to go for headshots

[glacial shard]

don't headshots have damage multipliers?

ie x2?

[burnt flume]

Yes but no

[quaint crow]

depends on both the gun you're using and the enemy you're hitting

[unreal crystal]

shut up pub

[burnt flume]

the enemy might take 2x damage to the head, but the gun might deal 0.7x damage to the head

[glacial shard]

????

[burnt flume]

you multiply stuff together

[glacial shard]

what kinda rpg logic is that?

bullet to head makes brain explode

[burnt flume]

lmao it's so you can independently balance guns

ah yes, realism in my scifi horror horde shooter

where I am shooting mutated humans and extra dimensional aliens

[glacial shard]

GTFO is surprisingly Arcadey for how hard it is

how?

[rose nova]

it's the dmg of the gun multiplied by that 0,7 multiplied by that x2 of the head of the enemy
don't think it's less dmg

it's always more dmg

but with heavy assault rifle the extra dmg isn't worth failin a couple bullets

[steel marsh]

all guns have a multiplier for headshots. most of them are below one

All headshots get a 2x multiplier base

So if my gun have a 0.7x headshot multiplier, I will be doing 2 * 0.7 = 1.4x damage to the head

[wispy bluff]

That one is not argument, the argument is "its a video game with balance", you keep it simple

[rose nova]

it's better to just aim at body

[glacial shard]

also balance guns for who? The sleepers?

[rose nova]

for us so every weapon is an option

balancing the power of em

[glacial shard]

we don't want to be unfair to the monsters that still fight without a head

[little ridge]

I feel like people take the "it ain't supposed to be realistic" thing a bit too far at times, but to be fair headshot multiplier isn't the case

[wispy bluff]

It prevents silly break points, or it doubles down on the weapon being "dumb" as in - devs don't actually want you aiming it well

[unreal crystal]

that’s a take

[glacial shard]

I pop the head of a sleeper and then remember that I didn't get the flower hit mark and shoot them again

[wispy bluff]

Like High Cal. No reason to aim for heads of anything but a scout. Giant modifier so trash - it literally doesn't matter.

[rose nova]

some weapons are just made for headshots, others are not

[steel marsh]

but for guns like the sniper and bullpup, headshots are key

[rose nova]

sniper and shotguns, it's kinda easy to tell which is which

[steel marsh]

yeah

[rose nova]

with bullpup is, congratulated but not super necessary

specially with its dmg buff

[wispy bluff]

Actually true, 2.1 damage a bullet is still every decent even without heads.

[burnt flume]

headshots for guns like DMR/hel revo/revo/PR

[steel marsh]

i still feel like i burn through ammo a little too fast without headshots, but i get what you mean

[rose nova]

they r very useful but if u aim for the chest on most enemies, ur fine

[wispy bluff]

Heads are there to justify the reload

[glacial shard]

I think guns should hit harder

[little ridge]

do all the 5 people that use bullpup regularly agree?

[rose nova]

mayb

i use it sometimes

[little ridge]

The bullpup council: Slendi, Artek... who else?

[steel marsh]

emmy

thats me

[wraith marsh]

bd

[rose nova]

i've seen this take a lot, any automatic can kill 4 5 sleepers in one mag
idk it can't hit harder than that then u don't need that much ammo

a shottie kills a small sleeper with every bullet, on combat that's 12 kills per mag

they r more than enough

[burnt flume]

guns hit plenty hard already, and there's enough ammo to shoot everything in the game

[unreal crystal]

ppl really forgot blackdragon wtf

[wispy bluff]

GTFO guns hit pretty hard all things considered. I've seen faaar worse.

Chargers though

[rose nova]

who? :3

[unreal crystal]

he’s THE bullpup user

[burnt flume]

people never want to think about the real ones

[wraith marsh]

_ _

[glacial shard]

where is my giant slap damage gun?

[burnt flume]

it makes them feel inadequate

[rose nova]

sniper? burst cannon

scattergun

[unreal crystal]

I ignore you chill dude cause you use hel rifle hel shotgun

[glacial shard]

give me a bullet that does 40 damage

[rose nova]

sniper

[little ridge]

scattergun

[wraith marsh]

sounds about right

[fast bobcat]

Precision Rifle: existing

[rose nova]

literally sniper does 40

[burnt flume]

Sniper does 40 damage

high cal does 30

[wispy bluff]

Literally sniper rifle.

[burnt flume]

burst cannon does 22x5

[steel marsh]

i love it, but way too little ammo for what you get

[burnt flume]

etc etc

[glacial shard]

sniper rifle has 20 bullets

[wispy bluff]

Yeah.

[unreal crystal]

guys have we had this discussion before

[wispy bluff]

That's the price of 40 damage.

[fast bobcat]

True, but the thermal is a menace when paired with a good melee.

[glacial shard]

giant has hands for days

[rose nova]

it's a weapon that one shots almost every enemy on the game

[wispy bluff]

And unlike you he requires point blank range

Its a fair trade

[glacial shard]

nah

[steel marsh]

yeah i dont think it is bad just not good. like the new hel gun

[wispy bluff]

There's an argument that our melee could be just as strong, but then why even have guns at that point...

[glacial shard]

40 damage assault rifle

[fast bobcat]

It’s got its niches.

[unreal crystal]

I’m not doing this again

[fast bobcat]

Like for blowing the heads clean off of Scouts.

[burnt flume]

it's like that one apex legends streamer who was doing r1a1 with hacks

[wispy bluff]

Its literally the superior DMR, what are you talking about

[rose nova]

i'm pretty sure most automatics do way more than that in one mag but ah well

[fast bobcat]

If only it was silenced.

[burnt flume]

even if you have a 40 damage full auto weapon can you even use it well?

[wraith marsh]

lmao

[steel marsh]

with headshots thats the precision rifle

[glacial shard]

my point is sleepers out dps us

[unreal crystal]

I’m not sure they do

[burnt flume]

lmao what

[wispy bluff]

Pressing X to Doubt

[glacial shard]

any cluster alarm can end a run

[burnt flume]

yeah maybe 8 sleepers will drop you faster than you can drop them in a 1m^2 boxing ring

[rose nova]

sleepers no, a group of BIG BIG BIIIG sleepers... nah

[burnt flume]

but this is just a skill issue on your end

[wispy bluff]

When you're being swarmed from all sides - yeah, sure, a dozen biters going for the kiss is pretty insane

The point is: don't allow them to do that

[wraith marsh]

this

is what we mean by

[steel marsh]

any alarm can end a run, thats thee point.

[wraith marsh]

STOP TRYING TO DO R2E1

[unreal crystal]

When are we getting the review of the sleeper vs humans war

Which side is doing the most damage

Which side is winning

[steel marsh]

this game is as much about setup and strategy as it is shooting stuff

[wraith marsh]

you have been given a very very incorrect perception of this game by being carried through some harder shit without contributing anything

[wispy bluff]

To be fair

[unreal crystal]

Which sleeper has the highest dps rn

[rose nova]

if u get eaten by a class IV V alarm, that is not usin ur tools well and ur guns not being for the situation

4 snipers or somethin

[wispy bluff]

Sleepers have higher per attack damage than us probably. Our average gun is like 10 damage a bullet probably

[wraith marsh]

probably bbc

[wispy bluff]

Actually wait, i didn't think of the shooters

[wraith marsh]

though maybe tank if we count tongue + double melee

[unreal crystal]

Ok but he’s hiding behind his sentry

Stealthing alarms

[sacred briar]

🔥

[unreal crystal]

So pro

[steel marsh]

hybid much

[wraith marsh]

32 + 32 + 14 per combo

[glacial shard]

I can't shoot straight

[unreal crystal]

tbh guys I think they should buff their melee damage

[rose nova]

shooters deal 5% dmg, u deal half the dmg of that with the most weak automatic and 70 times faster

[burnt flume]

hybrids have a fairly decent ranged output

but it pales in comparison to getting punched twice

[steel marsh]

hehe machine pistol go brrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[wraith marsh]

wait

[unreal crystal]

getting punched by something that huge should take my head clean off

[wraith marsh]

hybrid dsouble melee + a barrage

[little ridge]

"Look at me Dauda? I'm the prisoner now" Said the legendary Big Shadow Charger Scout to Dauda

[burnt flume]

I just wish we had global punch sound

[steel marsh]

i wish it was the roblox oof

[wraith marsh]

I think they intended for you to always get double slapped

but you just

dont

cuz the enemies all move a lot

[unreal crystal]

the big charger just slaps me once and zooms past me

[glacial shard]

my problem is that I need some black ops guerilla tactics to even consider beating this game

[wraith marsh]

what if we told you

you can beat most shit just by being good at shooting

[rose nova]

ur not the only person that has played this game

[burnt flume]

maybe you need to improve at the game

[wispy bluff]

Literally the point of the game

[glacial shard]

I can't shoot

[unreal crystal]

guys

[fast bobcat]

C-foam + mined door combo: existing

[steel marsh]

you wanna jump in some of the easier rundowns and i could maybe help you a lil?

[unreal crystal]

I feel like I’ve seen so many people say the same things now

And I don’t think it’s getting through

[burnt flume]

literally

[wispy bluff]

It is what happens when someone has a hot take

[burnt flume]

oh wait, saying the same thing in the other direction

[unreal crystal]

yes artek

[wraith marsh]

I thought we got through yesterday

[unreal crystal]

It really is artek

[burnt flume]

I was about to say that the robot generation had run out of new models to release into discord

[wraith marsh]

but they were back in r2e1 again after r1c1

[unreal crystal]

It’s an addiction

can you really blame them

It’s a fantastic level

[glacial shard]

game: I see you beaten Rundown 1 and almost 2. Let's throw in 4th hardest mission in the game

[steel marsh]

i mean im a masochist but r2e1 is a bit much

[burnt flume]

Woah, an E tier mission is one of the most difficult?

[little ridge]

Let me be the bad guy

[rose nova]

that's just the, way rundowns used to work

[burnt flume]

It's almost as if there's like, only 4 of them in the game!

[little ridge]

But to be fair everyone told Luna the same thing

[sacred briar]

when you can’t enjoy the rest of the game because you can’t find a carry for r2e1

[little ridge]

Even if the same question gets posed

[glacial shard]

I am being denied my R2 clear

[little ridge]

"If you are struggling at r2e1 consider jumping to another rundown"

[wraith marsh]

its the fact that its even worse than that

[rose nova]

rundowns used to come out like seasons, the fact that now the first E is in rundown 2 is just a symptom of that, but doesn't mean u can't skip to the next one

[little ridge]

Then it'll be answered with a "I already did R3"

[wraith marsh]

if it was just an r2e1 carry

I dont think wed care nearly as much

[steel marsh]

i had to skip it myself tbh. i think it took me like 25 attemps or something like that

[wraith marsh]

its the fact that its a person who can barely do A and B tiers

[little ridge]

(got carried, most probably, no hate for Luna but that's it)

[wraith marsh]

and got carried ALL the way to there

[sacred briar]

so anyway who’s looking to run r2e1

[steel marsh]

i beat it eventuallly but it was hard

[little ridge]

Now struggling to doing r2e1 without a carry group

[rose nova]

i got hard stuck on r2d1, and i did r3 some of r4 some of r5 and some of r7 before i could even be close to the ending

[little ridge]

Because there is a missing realization that A LOT of steps were skipped

along the way

hence why it looks like SO FUCKING harder than the rest he did prior

[glacial shard]

gtfo is only community who wants you to play R1 1000 times to not be considered carried

[burnt flume]

we don't want to you to replay missions thousands of times

[sacred briar]

you can really tell when someone’s not pulling their weight during the alarm waves and shit

[burnt flume]

we want you to improve at the game so you can do more for yourself

[glacial shard]

I am told I am carried daily

I am running out of missions I can do

[little ridge]

No people told you got carried twice

[glacial shard]

twice a day

[burnt flume]

This is why you need to improve, and build up to the missions you can't do

[little ridge]

in r2e1 and r3d1

[glacial shard]

improve where?

[little ridge]

it's okay

[rose nova]

u have 5 rundowns u can try, u can jump to r6 if u want which is not as hard

[burnt flume]

that's how this game works

[little ridge]

it's a PvE coop game

noone cares, really

[unreal crystal]

Hard game

[balmy moat]

From all the interactions so far, almost in every aspect

[little ridge]

but now you struggle for a reason, that's it

[burnt flume]

improve your knowledge, improve your mechanics, whatever, improve your everything

[balmy moat]

Improve it all

[wispy bluff]

That's not helpful at all

[glacial shard]

I meant improve where as location

R2E1 clearly ain't it

[wraith marsh]

yes

[sacred briar]

ala, play the game more? that what you mean?

[wraith marsh]

weve made that abundantly clear

[rose nova]

r6, r4, maybs a bit of r7

[little ridge]

Go R1B1, stealth kill all the first room without waking anything up

Solo, no bots

[balmy moat]

Do it fast stealth too

[wispy bluff]

Try grindind through R4 for now

[unreal crystal]

Just playing the game sometimes isn’t enough for ppl tbh

[burnt flume]

pushing yourself in solo/duo runs will make you shoot a lot better (unless you find someone vastly superior than you to carry you duo)
and when I say solo/duo I mean no bots

[unreal crystal]

Id encourage them to think about everything a lot more

Or try to

[glacial shard]

E1 missions shouldn't exist

[little ridge]

Yeah do it once, notice how long you take than do the same but faster

[wispy bluff]

Its like the reasonable middle ground of GTFO. Like a safe 4/5 on a diffiulty scale.

[unreal crystal]

try understand why ppl set stuff up in the ways they do

[little ridge]

Learn sleepers animations

[wraith marsh]

I would also recommend watching ppl who are good at the game to see what you could or should be doing

[little ridge]

for waking up, helps with clearing fast

[balmy moat]

Petition for R8F1 PE

[burnt flume]

if you want to improve at shooting a fair bit, try completing r1a1 solo with a burst sentry

[unreal crystal]

don’t watch the chill dude guy, he runs hel shotgun hel rifle

[steel marsh]

pffff

[wraith marsh]

I ran hel shotgun high cal for all of r6 so I wouldnt pen jish

[burnt flume]

all E tiers have been done duo without cheese
all E tiers have been soloed with cheese

The missions are fine to exist

[unreal crystal]

Ok well now I’m just disappointed

[wraith marsh]

it happened too many times

[burnt flume]

not that the solo cheese means much but

[wraith marsh]

jish strafes into the line

jish dies

[unreal crystal]

I used to die to hel rifle all the time in og r5

[burnt flume]

poor jish, somebody needs to hug them

[unreal crystal]

and shotgun

[burnt flume]

:)

[little ridge]

#gtfo-chat message

You got the game a week ago

[wraith marsh]

I dont pen ANYONE else

its always jish

[little ridge]

I started on OG R4

Never finished an E-tier before finishing r7e1

[wraith marsh]

luna

go play r2c2

[little ridge]

First rundown I managed to clear was R6

[wraith marsh]

and compare your experience

I bet you will say the

[glacial shard]

I don't know why you guys make it sound like I didn't earn my clears

[wraith marsh]

EXACT same things

[burnt flume]

I started on r5 extension myself, took me a damn while to start getting to where I could attempt e tiers

WE DONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOUR CLEARS

[junior latch]

what combo?

[wraith marsh]

tank

meme conversation

dont think too hard on it

[sacred briar]

been playing since og r6 and still struggle to play e tiers

[burnt flume]

most of your takes are just kinda bad, and insufferable to hear over and over, nobodies holding it against you because you don't have the experience to know any better

[junior latch]

play levels, try to do as much as you can

will that make you lose runs more? yes, but it will also get you to improve

try stuff like solo (no bots) on A level alarms til you get them done. Stealth clear a lot til you zoom etc

[wraith marsh]

clears are meaningless

to us and in general

[mint light]

We don't care about your clears, what we care about is that you blame every loss/set back on everything BUT yourself

[balmy moat]

Farmington comes after skill here

[junior latch]

ah

[balmy moat]

Not before

[unreal crystal]

WTF

my r3d1 grind was for nothing

[wraith marsh]

(if you are curious eva, this is the context)

I swear, I dont know if its just this game

[burnt flume]

it wasn't about the clears, it was about the friends you tortured along the way

[little ridge]

The special striker in r2d1

[wraith marsh]

or ppl in general these days

[junior latch]

mate, you played with Beth/Gerz, thats legit a top tier player ( i know it sounds like a meme beth, shut it ) any clear you get with that will be just getting hard carried for you

[little ridge]

You know... that one

[wraith marsh]

but we REALLY need someone to teach ppl what having fun in games is again

[junior latch]

ah, yea its bbcs then

prolly came up right?

[unreal crystal]

Top tier player…

[gaunt jewel]

someone person gtfo? i am new player

[junior latch]

40 + 40 + 40 + 24 is possible

[wraith marsh]

that was the first suggestion

they can triple hit?

[balmy moat]

Yes you top tier player

You heard that right

lol

[burnt flume]

r4e1 speedrun WR holder

[junior latch]

Beth being outside the top 50 would suprise me

[burnt flume]

beth goat

[steel marsh]

im heccin trying lol

[glacial shard]

so the clear is invalidated?

[junior latch]

invalidated? eh

[wraith marsh]

it

[balmy moat]

It's not about the clears

[wraith marsh]

didnt matter in the first place

[balmy moat]

bruh

[burnt flume]

I feel like there's probably a bunch of random people out there who are great at the game that we don't know about

or don't play much or whatever

[junior latch]

@burnt flume some yes, but not that many

[wraith marsh]

there are just from the language barrier

[little ridge]

Sunken and his team have a lot of videos and I never saw them here

[burnt flume]

like i've stopped trying to gage how good people are it's so fucking strange at the top

[junior latch]

if you are that good most of the time youll have some input in communities

or post stuff

[little ridge]

Same for the koreans who speedrun

[burnt flume]

how do you rank people for that kinda stuff

[wispy bluff]

You beat the level, you get the apparel. Do that with every level and you beat GTFO The Game, Content exhausted, you've seen everything there was to see.

[junior latch]

theres some that are unknown usually

[little ridge]

Or the Chinese who speedrun

[mint light]

It's not invalidated but it is clear to everyone you had no business being in that level to begin with

[wraith marsh]

dont listen to artek

[balmy moat]

Chinese group vanished rip

[wraith marsh]

they are one of the ppl who needs to be taught what having fun is in games

again

[wispy bluff]

Hey, i'm having in my own way

[wraith marsh]

it never sounds like it lmao

[junior latch]

Artek doesnt even speedrun F

[wraith marsh]

idk, ive never played with you but from chatting with you

[mint light]

tbh I saw his vids, he has fun

[wraith marsh]

it never sounds like you enjoy this

[glacial shard]

I guess I have to redo r2d1

prove I am not useless

[burnt flume]

there were some pretty good players from back then who don't play much anymore as well

[little ridge]

To me it's nearly the opposite, he sounds like he enjoys it a good deal

[rose nova]

hello! u can check the LFG channels to share n join lobbies!

just some advice!
always ask to not be carried, make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel
be sure to do the tutorial first [Training] and start on rundown 1 since its the simplest one

[mint light]

I told tmhim the exact same, it's like he is a different person ingame 😅

[unreal crystal]

I mean some people just play the game and get their 1 clear on every level and call it a day

[junior latch]

theres smth called skill drop off tho

[wraith marsh]

thats good to hear then

glad you are enjoying the game like the rest of us

[junior latch]

oh yea Artek 100% enjoys the game

just not R4C3

[burnt flume]

yeah you might peak and then never quite reach that high again, but still, lots of great players out there

[junior latch]

lots of great players sure

[wispy bluff]

If i genuinely hated this game i wouldn't be playing it. My only bad times when i want to get a clear for the sake of getting a clear and move on. I really enjoyed casually re-beating R6. I could've gotten really mad on D4 i think, but thankfully i just barely made it through.

[junior latch]

but theres not many that duod R4E1

thats why i said top 50

not top 10

or smth like that

its why i generally prefer Tiers

than top X

[glacial shard]

me complaining and blaming stuff is not because I dislike the game

[junior latch]

since for Top X youd like to know all players

[steel marsh]

i personally wanna get the clear on all of them, then go back and more deeply explore all of them again

[glacial shard]

I dislike the difficulty spike being so inconsistent

[burnt flume]

I can try think off the top of my a list of people who've duo'd og r4e1

[little ridge]

I feel like you read too much into this for it being a coop pve game eh

[junior latch]

@glacial shard thats because rundowns were unique until R7

[unreal crystal]

This is what top 500 gtfo gameplay looks like

[burnt flume]

Beth definitely there as one of the people who has the most duo clears of it though

[junior latch]

@unreal crystal smh only top 500, you SUCK

[little ridge]

X is better than Y might be true but it's 100 times easier to tell on competitive pvp stuff

[burnt flume]

• the no bc clear too I guess

[sacred briar]

i just wanna play 😩😞😔😭

[unreal crystal]

if you think about it top 500 in gtfo is like

rlly easy to get

[torpid rose]

Gerz (intoxicated): C+

[unreal crystal]

LMAO

I’m B at least Rick

[junior latch]

idk what would top 500 be

a player does that E tier comfortably in a 4 stack?

with no carry?

[unreal crystal]

we got the r4e1 times when I was intoxicated

[mint light]

It's like Eva said. rundowns were unique. that's why difficulty spikes in R5 and then goes back down with R6 for example

[burnt flume]

no image embeds fuuuuuuuu

[mint light]

Now we have em all it goes up and down

E being ofc the top

[little ridge]

Much much less, game has 1k players on average peak for 24h

[burnt flume]

1085 currently playing, 1373 24-hour peak, 18,613 all time peak for concurrent players

so top 500 sounds not too bad

[glacial shard]

will redo r2d1 and beat r2e1

[wraith marsh]

redo r2d2

you will learn more

[unreal crystal]

powerless

[mint light]

R2D2 will be a better teacher

[junior latch]

1k players peak =/= 1000 active players lol

[glacial shard]

to prove I am not carried I won't accept gerz in my lobby

[little ridge]

but still

[junior latch]

no

[burnt flume]

honestly I think we should trap Luna in r1a1 solo botless and wait until they can survive

[junior latch]

its not even close

[little ridge]

top 500 finish an e-tier comfortably?

[junior latch]

yes

[unreal crystal]

honestly if you don’t wanna redo levels just go do the rest of the A and B tiers