gtfo-chat

[sharp siren]

Para mi que estas sensible

[rose nova]

tambien

[sharp siren]

Hold at bridge bring 1 bio and sniper sentries

Keep the pings up for sentries to get the symbiosis

[ember pecan]

Next attempt if we fail this we'll give that a try

[sharp siren]

Have your friend with a sniper to kill giants so he can go to to put in the codes

And you good

[normal lake]

what weapon should i run for chargers

ran usual blind kit and got fucked up by chargers

[narrow gull]

hel rifle or hel gun for range, shotguns if you like shooting close up

[normal lake]

thats what i was thinking

[rose nova]

high cal can b nice for oneshots too

[normal lake]

yeah i decided to just run chokemod for other reasons

we have a strategy after two wipes

ahh the pain of a blind run

[lofty jacinth]

Blind run fun run

[rose nova]

so true

[boreal mirage]

just learned about this game

wondering is it coming to console at any point?

[rough robin]

doubtful

cause of how the terminals work

[boreal mirage]

ahh yeah

[heady magnet]

My team of 4 just got our asses kicked by R1C1 5 attempts later and we still haven’t gotten it

[boreal mirage]

didn't cross my mind

but I can see that being irritating

this game soloable or matchmade queueable?

[heady magnet]

I really recommend to not solo it

[boreal mirage]

I appreciate that but I don't have the choice, if its not soloable then I can't play it

[heady magnet]

Play with people on the discord

[boreal mirage]

i.e. not going to buy it

[heady magnet]

Ahh gotcha apologies

[boreal mirage]

is there matchmaking?

[timber tinsel]

The easier answer is just, no~ But you can match through this discord!

[boreal mirage]

ok, cool. Thanks!

[normal lake]

r6d2 error alarm didnt deactivate from the terminal?

cool the error just didnt turn off like it was supposed to

[rough robin]

d3?

is there an error on d2?

[normal lake]

d2

there is

#gtfo-media message

it just straight up didnt work

[latent palm]

yeah it happens

by alot i mean

happened to me also

just reset my guy

[normal lake]

i think im just gonna call it a night and not play this level then

[latent palm]

that can be arranged

i will hop on rn

[normal lake]

no im good im just not going to do the map

[latent palm]

aight

[normal lake]

i wont do buggy maps with game breaking bugs and its to far into the level for me to give enough of a shit to retry it because of a fail not caused by my own issues

didnt do secondary on r7d1 for same reason

no sense in wasting my time with buggy messes of levels and the map doesnt unlock anything in particular

[latent palm]

its all about that evasive manuvers

if u cant complete it then = gid gud lol

[normal lake]

i could genuinely care less about doing it for completion

i play the game cus i find the game fun

losing to something out of my control is shit i cannot stand and the fact it can just happen on that level

nah im good

[latent palm]

^

lol

[normal lake]

If the error was a full map thing i wouldnt care but the fact it just depends on a bug is irritating more than anything

that and planning a run around not having a permanent alarm and having one is very different situations

[latent palm]

i mean

yesterday i had it

but we just push thorugh lol

[normal lake]

Make the levels not have shitty bugs and ill play them its that simple

wont waste my time on it

[latent palm]

you can say that to R5B1 optmization stuffs

40fps gaming

[normal lake]

i used to play this game in entirely 20-30 fps

low fps aint really a big deal to me

i might consider coming back to the level in the future but i fuckin doubt it

once i have a experience like that i rarely go back to levels

[latent palm]

checks out

lel

[normal lake]

nowadays i run smooth 90-120 fps

even in desert areas

to bad i didnt wait a year to build my pc cus ofc i built it then the market starts to become normal

[latent palm]

not that lol

its just the level lol

[normal lake]

i dont remember having any performance issues on that level

[latent palm]

everyone does

[normal lake]

must have been not enough to be noticable for me or my friend since neither of us even noticed issues for it

well regardless next time ig r6d3 or d4

[balmy moat]

R7D1: the most unoptimized level in GTFO

[normal lake]

r7d1 is very noticable

just another reason i wont touch that level

[balmy moat]

Just use LowSpec gaming

Should improve at least some

[normal lake]

load times for maps are really all that bother me

i can live so long as framerate is over 60fps

and it basically always is

[balmy moat]

Load time as in drop time?

[normal lake]

yes

[balmy moat]

That's not performance

That's networking issue

Loading the map doesn't take all that long

[normal lake]

it still is significantly faster if you got a ssd and id consider it a performance issue since some levels are way faster to load even with similar sizes

[balmy moat]

Even my shitty computer didn't take over 30 seconds to load the map

[latent palm]

same

[balmy moat]

It's not faster

[normal lake]

r7d1 takes fuckin forever to load

[latent palm]

but the frame break

THE FRAME BREAK

[balmy moat]

You can see when the frame drops + revert back during drop - that period is loading map period

The rest of the drop is connection to host

So if it takes forever to drop then it's just a networking issue

Sometimes it's a mod issue but that rarely happens

[normal lake]

wouldnt make sense why only r7d1 is the only map in the game that takes over a minute to load

[balmy moat]

Lmao what

What's your rig

[normal lake]

while every other map takes under 20 seconds

[balmy moat]

Even running on a 1060 I don't see a loading time up to 20 seconds

Maybe drop might be long but definitely not load times

[normal lake]

6 core ryzen 5 3600
16gb memory ddr5
samsung 870 evo 2tb ssd
Radeon rx 6600

my pc is far from a shit pc

this issue is for only r7d1

[latent palm]

3060 loads in 11s

[balmy moat]

Then you're just confusing drop time = load time

[unreal crystal]

do i need to say the line

[latent palm]

but THE FRAME BREAKS

[balmy moat]

Because they are not equivalent

[balmy moat]

Yessir

[latent palm]

[normal lake]

I dont care about none of that shit

[unreal crystal]

big level with a lot of stuff going on

[normal lake]

its the time to load into the entire map

from start mission to in game

[balmy moat]

Incorrect

[normal lake]

r7d1 takes way longer than all other missions

[balmy moat]

Frame drop = map load

To be more accurate you gotta time the duration of your frame drop

[normal lake]

i give up

mans does not know how to read what im writing

[balmy moat]

.

Or maybe you're the one not understanding

Or more precisely, refusing to accept

[normal lake]

I have stated one fact, r7d1 loads significantly slower than every other map

[balmy moat]

I don't doubt it, but by the way this convo is going, I doubt you are correct

You haven't even timed it, correctly

It shouldn't be significant

1 minute is very sus

[normal lake]

Because im not going to time it in a dumbass way that makes no sense

i dont care about load time behind the scenes

[balmy moat]

I ran a shitter computer and R7D1 didn't take a minute to load

[normal lake]

i care about the amount of time it takes to get into the game from starting the game

[balmy moat]

And that time isn't load time

[normal lake]

and your arguing a moot point

[balmy moat]

Then refer to it as drop time

2 very different things man

[normal lake]

I do not care about debatable terminology

[balmy moat]

It's not just terminology though

That's literally how the game is

[normal lake]

nah i do not care

[latent palm]

lol

[balmy moat]

That's how the game processes

[latent palm]

blud mad cause game machine dont work lel

[normal lake]

its entirely worthless to split hairs on terminology when its not relevant

[balmy moat]

Bruh it's not just terminology, again, it's how the game is ran, and it IS relevant

You keep saying LOADING time is long

But loading time is not the same as the entirety of the drop sequence

There is a difference

[normal lake]

and its arguing a moot point that makes no difference in the context of the conversation

[balmy moat]

The GPU does not pull all the resources throughout the entirety of the drop sequence

It pulls all of it in the beginning of the sequence

Drop sequence being long can be a network/mod issue

Especially noticible if you just play solo/with bots only

[normal lake]

yeah no im good this conversation is a waste of time

[balmy moat]

Just don't confuse the two bruh

But you couldn't give two shits

[normal lake]

nah i dont care its actually stupid to give a shit about the difference between the two things

[balmy moat]

If you were a game dev that would be totally the other way around lol

[normal lake]

ill continue to call it as i please even if it bothers you

[balmy moat]

Or a dev in any aspect

It's not dumb, it matters

[normal lake]

no its stupid

[balmy moat]

They are important to how the game is constructed

Do you want to do it all in the beginning?

Yea

Like CoD missions

They pull all the baseline resources in the beginning cutscenes

Indicated by a loading bar

But not the entirety of the mission cutscene is loading time

Same goes with GTFO, just no loading bar

[normal lake]

your wasting your time i genuinely do not care

im not arguing about terminology because it means nothing to me

[balmy moat]

I mean, sure I guess, no point of talking to someone who can't even distinguish right from wrong

[normal lake]

its not about distinguishing

i just do not care

[balmy moat]

Makes a very evil supervillan arc

[normal lake]

its a waste of time

[balmy moat]

Well later down the line if some other game has a loading sequence within a cutscene I don't wanna see some poor bastard saying "why is this taking so long to load" like an absolute buffoon

It's almost common knowledge to distinguish the two

[normal lake]

it may be crazy but get this, not everyone gives a shit about the difference

[balmy moat]

It looks pretty dumb af when they post about it though

[normal lake]

most people just say load time as a end all be all phrase that covers all cases of waiting to get into a game

[balmy moat]

Makes em look real stupid

And then imagine them posting about it as a bug or a "need help performance issues" type shit

It's a waste of time as well

[normal lake]

lmfao i bet you get tons of respect because you know the difference between a technical term and a word used as common use

[balmy moat]

?

Nah

[unreal crystal]

do u get a ton of respect for complaining about everything too

life of the party honestly

[balmy moat]

It's good to know tho

That way you know what to expect

[normal lake]

ima call it loading times for now on simply because of this convo

[unreal crystal]

didnt u say ur done

like 5 minutes ago

[balmy moat]

Or... just call it drop sequence

[unreal crystal]

that means stop talking

[balmy moat]

Beth to save the day

[normal lake]

he changed the way he was talking and started making sense with what he was saying

[balmy moat]

[normal lake]

it was at that point it wasnt a matter of disagreement moreso a matter of i dont care about stupid differences in terminology

[balmy moat]

I mean, by how Kaiser responded I made sense the entire time

[normal lake]

I had no clue you cares about the difference in terminology

[unreal crystal]

ok you but now ur saying u dont care about the difference

and youve said it like 5 times

you made ur point what else needs to be said

[normal lake]

and he keeps responding?

[unreal crystal]

and so do you friend

[balmy moat]

You know what Beth is tryna say right

[normal lake]

and?

[unreal crystal]

i mean if you enjoy wasting ur time be my guest

[normal lake]

playing sons of the forest and chatting on my second monitor

that and repeating myself doesnt take much effort

[unreal crystal]

LOL

the logic is great

[balmy moat]

I mean considering he didn't use proper grammar I didn't expect much

So when R2E1 with Luna stream

[unreal crystal]

saying youre done and now saying its not much effort to repeat yourself are two very conflicting mindsets

make up your mind

[normal lake]

lmfao i just could care less to argue about terminology and grammar shit

dont know how to make this any more clear

[unreal crystal]

when he decides to play with me...

i need to regain his trust after the pmom incident

[balmy moat]

Send stream link via dm that day comes

[unreal crystal]

of course

[timber tinsel]

Our R2D1 level bugged on us! Host left when we had two cells in, and the game transferred host, but the game was convinced we had 4 cells in. Putting in our 3rd cell made the fog rise like it would during 5th cell, but without scans to lower it again!

[balmy moat]

Host migration moment

[glacial shard]

took 1 hour to do R1B1

[grim leaf]

nice, took me longer, but i was with bots so it takes a while sometimes

[glacial shard]

no one was joining so went with bots

[grim leaf]

ah yeah, bots are slower

[glacial shard]

3 guys went in at the end and did 75% of the work in 10 minutes

from 3 pid's to 12

[grim leaf]

koo

[glacial shard]

fucked up 2 scouts in a row

[grim leaf]

i was practicing some with sniper rifles just so i could kill scouts earlier lol

[glacial shard]

the bots tried to melee 2 giants

[grim leaf]

yeah, i had a bot near a proxy mine i had set up to take down a big guy, bot got downed instead

[glacial shard]

I did finish up the giants so it was gucci

[grim leaf]

bots are dum dum

nice

[glacial shard]

I swear that the pid's were all in 2 zones

[normal lake]

if you put any trust in bots they will defy that trust as quick as possible

[grim leaf]

yep

[latent palm]

[glacial shard]

bots: I am gonna do a pro gamer move

[restive cape]

When I recently tried to do R6B2 with bots I watched them dump around 10 shots of combat shotgun into ONE crawling shooter. After that I just gave them machine guns instead.

[glacial shard]

finally done processing the video

[gray pilot]

I really had to laugh here 😂

[normal lake]

if you reread the convo you can literally tell when i just gave up and started going for the usual

[trim sail]

man

they finally fixed the god damn bug where loot boxes are too shine to be opened

imagine if inside those shine box is the key...

[royal ginkgo]

What command to check all items in the zone?

[trim sail]

list [zone_number]

[coarse grail]

list zone_[zone_number]

[trim sail]

ex: list zone_513

[royal ginkgo]

What if i don't know the zone number. Can i somehow check what stuff is behind the door with the number i know?

[coarse grail]

the doors have the zone numbers so you know what zones are adjacent

and what zones are beyond them

[royal ginkgo]

oh yeah, really. i thought all info i can get is on the map, but if look on the door there's a zone number on it lol 😉

[royal ginkgo]

Exact zone name doesn't work? If write LIST ZONE_49 — bunch of stuff. If LIST ZONE_49D/C/E — nothing. Not pissible to see what's in the each part of the zone 49?

[earnest forge]

No, it is not

[coarse grail]

You can ping what you are interested in and then record what areas you want to look for things in

[trim sail]

if you don't know what zone you are currently in right now, just type "ping" and it will show you an error log including the zone number

[normal lake]

thats really useful for a terminal ive already used a few commands on

would have saved some trouble ima remember that one

[royal ginkgo]

yeah got it thanks.

[royal ginkgo]

will save a lot of time. 👍

[normal lake]

if you dont know if you hit tab it will attempt to autofill a chunk of a command

helps with typing long ass commands faster

[trim sail]

if you still don't know how to use the terminal, then refund the game and walk on the hall of shame...

[normal lake]

my friend with 250 hours who only plays with me and i have given up on teaching the ways of terminals

[trim sail]

you made the right damn choice

[normal lake]

teaching him terminals is harder than just doing it myself

not that i havent tried either

[trim sail]

you know what's harder ?

teaching people to know wtf they are actually doing in the level, despite there's a long ass list of objectives on the top left corner

[normal lake]

yeah

you right

[coarse grail]

its the gtfo reading comprehension challenge (impossible)

I will keep banging this drum

[normal lake]

even harder than that

[coarse grail]

Its a players greatest adversary

[trim sail]

i don't mind if some of my teammates ask for the direction during the run but

[normal lake]

waiting for other players to figure out what to do in a level

[trim sail]

asking every single time ?

[normal lake]

rather than just telling them

[trim sail]

you got a problem

[normal lake]

i play with basically a lost puppy

[trim sail]

that moment when you realized

GTFO just starting as a "Work together or die together" franchise

to become a "babysitting all of my shitty teammates who can't read"

[true pilot]

imagine needing to be able to read in order to play a video game

[normal lake]

there are two types of gtfo players, those who read, and those who follow

[true pilot]

and then there are those that do neither

[trim sail]

i'd prefer type number 1

[normal lake]

those who mod the game to ruin the experience for other players

[trim sail]

those who actually read are more responsible for their actions and more committed

those who follow ?

"i don't care, just following you and ignore all of the resources i did not notice"

yay

[royal ginkgo]

If player inexperienced i think pro would prefer for him to do nothing and just follow, rather than fuck things up in every room.

[coarse grail]

Some experienced players do actually want to help newer players

And would rather they try to take some measure of independance

[trim sail]

this

is the key point

god damn oh my f*cking god

[normal lake]

this is fine but blindly following rather than trying to understand whats going on is the problem

[trim sail]

brothers, let me tell you some "obvious" fact

pro players are WILLINGLY to help newbies, they won't hesitate to do that

[royal ginkgo]

what can mods do here?

[trim sail]

what pro players don't want

is to "baby sitting"

[normal lake]

most pros at the game are at the point where mistakes are not major set backs or issues and if someone new is playing with em its the perfect playground to improve and make mistakes to learn from

[coarse grail]

not gonna ignore the fact that some "pro players" just wanna flex and show what they can do

[trim sail]

i taught you how to use the terminal, basic commands. Ok then apply what you've learned.

Next game, they be like

[normal lake]

just shit like people cheating in pubs

[trim sail]

"hey, idk how to use the terminal, can you use it ? "

like wtf ?

[normal lake]

overall not cool

[trim sail]

you'd be very suprised

there's tons of players in D-E tier

that's still dk wtf they need to do

to finish the level

[normal lake]

yeah some people do just be like that

carrying without being asked is pretty cringe

[normal lake]

my friend is the kinda guy who the first run of a level has no clue how to learn a level but after playing it once he becomes the professional

inability to use terminals do be a bitch sometimes

[trim sail]

that's completely fine for me

good skill set to compensate for inability for terminal usage

acceptable

[normal lake]

but yeah people who dont know what they are doing after several fails at a level

[trim sail]

but "can;t shoot, can't use tool correctly, can't use terminals, can't read" ...

gtfo plz

[normal lake]

thats a issue of following rather than playing

yeah my main man knows his shit when it comes to the gunplay, tool usage, navigation, and is great at melee but the moment he touches a terminal his brain fries

[trim sail]

like i said, it's totaly fine

terminal usage is not really a big deal

[normal lake]

it has its drawbacks tho

few levels need multiple people on terminals to be played efficiently

and since we mostly do duos those levels get rough fast

[trim sail]

you know what type of player i hate the most ? Not mentioning skill set

type of people that NEVER LEARN FROM MISTAKES

[normal lake]

ye i get failing scouts 2-3 times before you start to get it

but if you got 200+ hours in the game and cant melee a scout consistently there is a different issue entirely

[trim sail]

what i mean is

take R4D2 for example

that level is all about speed run, right ?

[normal lake]

ask "why did I fail" and learn from it is what you mean correct

lots of people dont do that

[trim sail]

and if you are aiming for PE, then you gotta move your ass fast.

and also, you must identify what's the hardest part and most crucial part of the level to finish it

[normal lake]

bad example for me since i stopped doing r4 pretty early for a variety of reasons

plan on going back to it later

[trim sail]

basically it's a speed run, carrying a cargo to extraction

[normal lake]

gotcha

[glacial shard]

I keep messing up scout kills with the bat @normal lake

[trim sail]

and there's toxic fog, error alarm of shadows chasing you

[glacial shard]

slower than the knife but still needs Occiput hit

[normal lake]

your newer to the game dont over think it and bat is really fuckin hard to get consistent scout kills with just cus its jank as fuck

[glacial shard]

I shall do it at one point

[normal lake]

has the weird arc, still needs occi hit, and charges slower

[trim sail]

hammer goes br br

[glacial shard]

do I still need the jump?

[normal lake]

hammer is still the best for scouts

[mint light]

Just go hammer and never look back

[coarse grail]

I wouldn't say you NEED to jump but it probably helps

[normal lake]

so its a level with a lot of pressure on the players

[coarse grail]

different people prefer different approaches

[glacial shard]

did manage a stealth triple kill with the bat

[trim sail]

only if you do PE, yeah

[normal lake]

i record my runs so i can see why i failed certain things

been a key factor to my own improvement

[trim sail]

good point

[mint light]

Main only does not exist

[glacial shard]

I think I been hitting more headshots with the pistol

[normal lake]

altho me and my friend tried to melee a c scout today and fuckin failed despite even in the recording not having a clue why

[trim sail]

can i take a look ?

[normal lake]

both perspectives where hits

ill send over my friends perspective i already trashed mine

[mint light]

you must have been unsynced

[coarse grail]

today we reviewing Subtonix

[burnt flume]

Either bad timing or no stagger I guess

Or you didn't hit the back

[normal lake]

both hammers hit and they where basically spot on in timing

[mint light]

back?

[normal lake]

yes back

[burnt flume]

Probably not charged enough then

[normal lake]

well ik charge wasnt a issue

ima just chop it up to desync

it looked clean

[burnt flume]

Send both povs

I want to see this

[mint light]

he said he trashed his

[burnt flume]

Did host hit first?

[normal lake]

looking at my friends perspective his hammer might have went over the scouts head hold on ill post

#gtfo-media message

spoilers for new players i suppose

[burnt flume]

Probably your friend collided with the scout hitbox and set it off

[normal lake]

i dont have my perspective unfortunately

[normal lake]

might also have been the issue

[trim sail]

gimme

the

goddamn

video

[coarse grail]

I'd agree

[trim sail]

[coarse grail]

its in media mate

[normal lake]

in media

[coarse grail]

really no reason to jump there 😅

[trim sail]

shame on me

plz forgive me

[normal lake]

yeah not sure why he did

[trim sail]

my lord

[normal lake]

its been like 3 months since we meleed a charger scout

[glacial shard]

do I need to wait for the scout to walk away after she had retracted the feelers?

[trim sail]

i thought you were talking about regular scout

bruh

[glacial shard]

I am not sure if its me touching the retracting feelers or the flashlight/sound

[normal lake]

but we pretty much have a self imposed rule where we melee all scouts we see

[mint light]

run in when feelers retract

[normal lake]

yeah no i dont fail regular scouts much at all unless its some goofy movement or me being a dumbass

[trim sail]

i can give you a hint, the back of the legs are also counted as "weak spot" for the back side.

so instead of hammering in the same spot, try 2 different spots

[normal lake]

i went in for the booty cheeks

[glacial shard]

wouldn't that allert the scout if I touch the feelers?

[coarse grail]

what is that going to change?

[normal lake]

i know i landed my hit but i honestly cant tell if he did

[burnt flume]

How is that preferable to aiming centre mass?

[mint light]

Wait a lil bit so you won't run into them

[normal lake]

well its head broke but i might have been the one who broke it

damn i wish i had my perspective

[mint light]

You want to time it to the point the scout just stood back up and is about to walk again

[glacial shard]

light/sound doesn't matter with scout?

[trim sail]

sometimes when you already charged at the back, the axis may be diversed, so aiming at a different weak spot will deal the same amount of damage and guarantee a kill

[coarse grail]

idk what you mean about diversed axis

[royal ginkgo]

if sleepers are flashing then we gotta stay still, don't move. But what about the mouse? Can i move with my mouse while they're flashing and i'm close to them? Mouse considered like movement or they'll ingnore it?

[mint light]

No it will just make him throw feelers out but as you already going for it he be ded before he can scream

[burnt flume]

Sound and light will make a scout feel but won't set them off

[normal lake]

light and sound doesnt matter as long as its not a gunshot, a scream from another sleeper, or your weapon hitting a floor / wall

but it do make em send feelers

[burnt flume]

You can look around and scream, just don't WASD or hit geometry with your hammer

[coarse grail]

killing a sleeper nearby will do it too

[glacial shard]

so wait until it goes the direction opposite from where I am coming and run for the kill

[normal lake]

had no clue since i usually lazer focus prioritize scouts

[burnt flume]

Or waking up a sleeper right next to the scout

[normal lake]

id rather wake up one room than wake up one scout and the room

[trim sail]

you can think like this: when hammering the regular giant, the giant will slowly turn its back away from you, or the stun effect will produce an animation of the giant slowly turning his face against you, and the next hammer charge may not be on spot (on the weak spot: the back) . So you don't have access to his back to hammer it.

If it's not the back, the damage won't be multiplied

[coarse grail]

The enemy orientation doesn't change until the animation has finished

[normal lake]

my friend didnt see one of the feelers to the ||6 charger scout|| zone in r6d2 because it had dropped down into the door way and we ended up setting off all of them

[coarse grail]

And I don't think I've ever noticed a charger scout behave like this, and also you are hitting at almost the same time

[normal lake]

somehow survived

[trim sail]

well, hard to explain

[royal ginkgo]

by scream you mean quick voice commands on q?

[normal lake]

so when a sleeper wakes up it doesnt wake up the entire room instantly

it does a scream to wake up other shit

gives you time to prevent room from waking up

[burnt flume]

Yeah, voicelines and voice chat don't do shit to sleepers

[normal lake]

yeah voice lines and shit aint matter

[trim sail]

imagine saying "3 2 1" and some sleepers awake

hell yeah...

[normal lake]

altho i still think a mod that makes voice chat wake up sleepers would be fun as shit

id love to see the interactions between me and my mates with that

[vestal crystal]

host must have hit first

[glacial shard]

can't do sign language ingame so couldn't tell them to stop

[normal lake]

charger scout melee do be hard to learn from mistakes when a lot of the time you can fail due to desync

tight window to land two hits from two seperate clients

its fair enough

[vestal crystal]

yeah you definitely hit first

your window depends on your latency to host

i have some clips somewhere let me find

[normal lake]

video perspective is from host who is not me

[burnt flume]

Or clip in media shows that it mightve been jumping into scout hitbox

[vestal crystal]

whoever's pov it is in media definitely hit first

[burnt flume]

Triggering it

[normal lake]

wasnt a big deal pissing it off just a mild inconvenience

not that it mattered

that run was doomed as soon as the terminal decided to not shut down the alarms

[trim sail]

some of his teammate actually got the first hit, so even if someone else touch it, it does not matter. It has something to do with the hitbox maybe

[vestal crystal]

https://streamable.com/y1mikl

host hitting first

https://streamable.com/huc5ae

me on 300 ping hitting first

[normal lake]

so host hitting first fucks things up huh

[trim sail]

yes, because it will register the hitbox from the host first

and the scout will also react to the host first

[normal lake]

ive never had a charger scout kill feel like it should have killed like in this case but just didnt

on the other hand ive had plenty that feel like it absolutely should not have killed

[vestal crystal]

also in that clip if he collided with the charger scout before hitting he wouldnt get the head break i think

in subtonix's clip

[royal ginkgo]

ping [with middle mouse] only works on objects like box, terminal and not enemies or random point?

[trim sail]

yes

[normal lake]

yeah doors n shit

one of these days ill understand charger scouts a bit better but until then ima contine with my 60-70% success rate at meleeing them

[burnt flume]

Yeah, head wouldn't break, not sure if colliding with a staggered scout sets it off, could be possible

Well, sets it off mid stagger, sooner than normal

[normal lake]

man i still wish i had video of my friend solo meleeing a charger scout by staggering it then landing a second hit by himself

one of the few sessions i didnt record because it was just a short melee practice session on r7c3

[glacial shard]

hey so is it even worth changing settings in advanced graphics?

I don't notice a difference

[normal lake]

a few settings actually change gameplay like lowering gun sway

but if your tryna get framerate idk if it really will help much

[glacial shard]

on default it puts it at medium and 2 chunks for shadows

[trim sail]

if you have a strong cpu, you can change it to high culling workload.

[glacial shard]

I have a I5-9400f

6 cores

[trim sail]

same as me

i've been using High culling workload for 4 years

and it's fine for me

my GPU is GTX 1060

[glacial shard]

GTX 1660

even if I crank everything to max I still get guaranteed 60 fps

[trim sail]

i found out that

when you are in deep fog

sometimes your fps is shitty

[glacial shard]

maybe fog needs rendering?

[trim sail]

but also sometimes your fps just got sky rocketed

[glacial shard]

but same do the items around?

[trim sail]

it's kinda weird for me

[glacial shard]

will try to get screenshot with everything maxed and then just high

game has a horror vibe without jumpscares

[trim sail]

man

i don't recommend you setting high on every thing

i disabled most of the options in the basic graphics settings

[normal lake]

honestly i find it strange how horror games get less scary the more you play it but even with over 1000 hours of minecraft caves are still fucking terrifying

[trim sail]

like v-sync, fog, shadows, blur,...

[normal lake]

i need another game that brings out true primal fear

[trim sail]

i5 9400f is pretty decent for gtfo, but i want to have the best and smooth experience...

[glacial shard]

I like how zombies got 5 whole polygons

[trim sail]

and idk if you have encountered this but

[normal lake]

yeah pretty much this, there is no sense in a game looking good if you see it in 20fps

[trim sail]

when ever i killed one flyer

the fps suddenly drop down to 10 fps

[glacial shard]

but got the 5 stars voice acting growling

[trim sail]

like for 0.2 seconds

[royal ginkgo]

can i order a bot to attack an exact sleeper when in slealth?

[normal lake]

no

[latent palm]

hihi

[normal lake]

if you play with 3 bots your basically doing stealth alone

bots wont attack a sleeping target unfortunately

would be nice if there was atleast a way to get them to use the nice count down feature and all that

[normal lake]

yes this holy shit i remember now

killing fliers literally caused my pc to eat shit back on my old desktop

[glacial shard]

I have decided to cancel the videos project

I can't wait for all of them to render and upload

[normal lake]

r6d2 also we did ||blood door full of babies after mom fight near beginning of map|| and there where so many that when the door open i actually nearly fucking crashed

i dont fucking know what the fuck happened but im pretty sure the cap of monsters got exceeded

[royal ginkgo]

what's the best melee weapon?

[coarse grail]

hammer

[normal lake]

hammer no contest

hammer nearly has the speed of knife, the damage of spear, and the stagger of bat but no major drawback

[coarse grail]

better damage than spear, but no precision

[vestal crystal]

They're not just zombies, they are vampire zombies

You can ask more about their vampire zombie nature in #gtfo-lore

[normal lake]

yeah and if im correct hammer stagger is worse than bat

[mint light]

More stagger, can sprint etc

[glacial shard]

can hammer chain kill like knife?

[mint light]

Can one shot strikers on body shot

[royal ginkgo]

with stagger hit enemies will need more time to wake up the room, right?

[normal lake]

so hammer is supposed to be the well rounded weapon but all its base stats are way to fucking high

[junior latch]

Not quite

[coarse grail]

yes

[mint light]

If you learn yes

[junior latch]

but you rarely need to

[coarse grail]

well, not as well as the knife

[junior latch]

no guys

yes ellda got it

theres still a gap

[coarse grail]

But it CAN chain kill

[junior latch]

hammer can go as fast as a decent knife kill chain

[normal lake]

stagger causes enemies to kinda just stop moving or fighting back for a few seconds

[normal lake]

meant to reply to this^

[lavish jay]

and stagger damage is what destroys body parts iirc disregard that statement

[normal lake]

a staggered enemy cant wake up a room is the main benefit

[junior latch]

No

[coarse grail]

I don't think so, I think that just counts up the regular soft stagger

[normal lake]

but on giants and shit it also is literally the only reason why killing giants is so fucking simple with hammer

[lavish jay]

I see

[junior latch]

limb break is just dmg to a bodypart (which have their own hp) and causes hard stagger (long)

Soft stagger is done by doing enough stagger dmg (dmg x stagger multi) to reach the enemies stagger hp value

enemies can be staggered multiple times with either way

[normal lake]

stagger is kinda goofy but makes sense

[junior latch]

eh not rly

Hammer with no stagger would still be great and easy for limb break folks

[normal lake]

im more so refering to stagger all together here since he was asking about stagger as a whole

but yeah hammer stagger by itself def doesnt make much difference

limb breaking is king of stagger

oh i added "with hammer " to the end

i needa get some sleep

[trim sail]

sleep beauty...

sleep and dream well

[normal lake]

nah its a all nighter kinda night

i should get off discord tho

[lavish jay]

Yes

[royal ginkgo]

is there a chat here with pictures allowed?

[normal lake]

gtfo media has a 5 minute slowmode

if you wanna post a image just post there then copy message link and post it here

bit annoying but its the mods decree

[royal ginkgo]

what's the best strategy to deal with a scout?

Too risky to try and kill silently right? Better start shooting and kill it fast?

[coarse grail]

You should try and kill it silently

best to start practicing now

while stakes are low

[royal ginkgo]

ok, how to do it, i got a spear.

[coarse grail]

full charge, hit it in the head

[royal ginkgo]

aim to the head?

ok

[coarse grail]

Ideally wait for it walking over to you

[royal ginkgo]

but if scout triggered it'll bring an additional wave of enemies right?

[coarse grail]

Yep

[hidden path]

Yep

[royal ginkgo]

so it's possible strategy to mostly clear the room and then just open fire on scout to make sure no additional wave will be coming?

[coarse grail]

Yes, that is a strategy that works

But on later levels that won't be a viable option

so its good to get comfortable with stealth killing them sooner rather than later

[normal lake]

absolutely make sure to practice scouts with melee every opportunity you get until killing scouts is so braindead that you can do it eyes closed

some levels wont give you the option to shoot them

regardless my discord app is getting fucked by cloudflare so ig ima be off for a few hours atleast

[mint light]

Learn to this as early as possible you will not always have a choice so this is a valuable skillset to have

[royal ginkgo]

i think bots triggered him. Can bots trigger someone or it's not possible?

[mint light]

Impossible

so it's you or another player

[royal ginkgo]

Me then. Can i order a bot to pick up an ammo/health pack?

[mint light]

And I would practice to mêlee them with the Hammer. as stated above it is the best and Spear while a good comfort stick at the start is a crutch later on. (even with the new buff)

[mint light]

they'll pick it up if getting close to it but they'll also burn it away so you really dont want that

[royal ginkgo]

ok

[mint light]

Say you are at 90% health the bot WILL heal you wasting meds

same with ammo

it will overfill without a 2nd thought

[royal ginkgo]

ah, got it.

scout triggers by flashlight like everyone too?

[mint light]

it will deploy feelers, it will not trigger

same with running, you can run around it will not trigger just deploy feelers to see wassup

gunshot tho is a trigger

[royal ginkgo]

Got it thanks. Killed first scout silently, not so hard actually.

[mint light]

👍

[royal ginkgo]

bots standing right in these feelers and it didn't trigger, bots cheaters 😉

is there a use for big flashlight or it's just for more comfortable running around in emptied rooms?

[junior latch]

bright

big vision

syncing enemies

making your teammates go blind

[glacial shard]

R1C1 actually made us lose

sentry placement wasn't the best

we had my sniper at the front

a full auto sentry behind the truck

and a shotgun sentry at our backs

can't have enough friendly fire

[mint light]

Switch auto and shotgun for 2 bursts

place em in front of the hole. sniper on the truck

enjoy

[glacial shard]

I have completed the mission, I just wanted 2 clears

[royal ginkgo]

what means syncing enemies?

[lone kestrel]

Bring four bio trackers so you can confirm all of your teammates’ pings

You can never be too sure

[glacial shard]

what?

[mint light]

he is joking

[lone kestrel]

You flash a light on a crowd of sleeping sleepers so they all yawn at the same time

[mint light]

1 bio, 2 burst, 1 sniper

[lone kestrel]

I assure you I’m quite serious

[royal ginkgo]

just for fun?)

[lone kestrel]

No

It lets you stealth faster

[glacial shard]

hmm could I do r1c1 with bots?

[lone kestrel]

If enemies are yawning at different times/out of sync, it’s harder to walk past them

[glacial shard]

they will run with me if I go back to type the codes

[lone kestrel]

If you get them to all yawn at once, then you can walk further and for longer after they stop

[mint light]

It has been done

[mint light]

yes

[lone kestrel]

I did it blind with bots first try @glacial shard

[royal ginkgo]

oh now i got it, thanks.

[lone kestrel]

The key was bringing four bios of course

[glacial shard]

how did you not run out of Turret ammo?

[wispy bluff]

There is an annoying mechanic in stealth when enemies can randomly wake up when you kill their friends. Works from quite the range too which can wake up a room.
This only happens if enemies were sleeping for a while and this mechanic is effectively blocked for a short time after monsters goes from yellow to sleep.
So you "sync" them all with a flash of light and then go for the kills.

[lone kestrel]

No worries for turret ammo if you can confirm your bot pings

Jokes aside just do that sentry setup and use as much of the timer as you can to refill sentries and your bots ammo

With those sentries, if you have any degree of shooting skill, you realistically shouldn’t get hit that much, so you just need to look for tool and ammo packs, memorize where they’re at, and refill between waves

[mint light]

Place 1 sentry at wave 1, 2nd at 3 and last at 4

[lone kestrel]

Not too hard

[mint light]

You will have more tool than needed for the map

[glacial shard]

oh yeah, sniper sentry gonna have 100% accuracy with the bio

[wispy bluff]

Not that

[glacial shard]

okay gonna place it 3rd

[wispy bluff]

S-Sentry is always accurate, the problem is speed at which it aims

Its basically suffering from down syndrome without bio assistance

[lone kestrel]

You can honestly place all 3 at the beginning if u know where packs are @glacial shard

[glacial shard]

then how does bio tracking help?

[wispy bluff]

Quicker aim and it consumes less ammo (somehow)

[mint light]

It makes sniper sentry aim and shoot faster

[wispy bluff]

Same for shotgun

[lone kestrel]

Just bring a 4/5 use tool from the first zone with you, fill sentries there with smaller packs, and head back and note where the tool is there

[royal ginkgo]

thanks, good info.

[lone kestrel]

You can fill bots and sentries between waves on your run for packs

[mint light]

Ah yes and less ammo consumption

altho on shotty case still not worth it on R1C1

[glacial shard]

my guy gonna have 180 pulse at this rate

[lone kestrel]

That’s the r1c1 experience

[mint light]

good cardio never hurt anyone

[glacial shard]

I need to run in between waves like Usain Bolt

[lone kestrel]

You don’t really need to head back for tool or ammo til the 6th wave or so though

So it’s not too bad

[mint light]

well with a team, one goes for code the others loot

[glacial shard]

is 6th wave more time?

[mint light]

but in this case you go all

[lone kestrel]

Each wave is more time than the last for the break period

So start by looting the bridge room

[glacial shard]

a team is not guaranteed to put the right sentries

[lone kestrel]

Then when that is looted out, go back farther

And so on

[mint light]

tell em to bring the right ones

someone needs to lead

[lone kestrel]

By wave 6, you have over a minute or so after putting codes in

Ez to grab packs farther forward in that time frame from terminal room

[glacial shard]

guns for me/bots?

[junior latch]

Bots as always

[upbeat sail]

AR/Machinegun

[mint light]

Bots keep em on automatics

[glacial shard]

probably gonna go 3 burst Rifles and 3 Verutas

[junior latch]

i took hel rifle for my actual solo, that can work well

Sniper/BC if you struggle with giants/hybrids

main is just hel revo/carbine or anything you fancy that doesnt suck here

[royal ginkgo]

if "LIST AMMO" showing that there's no ammo then it means there's 100% no ammo left in this entire level (expedition), right? Absolutely everything's showing on the terminal? Or there might be exceptions?

[edgy karma]

Mostly yes

From I have seen and played that is the case

[mint light]

If it's List ammo then yes no ammo on the whole map

[glacial shard]

oh no

[lunar oriole]

Im a good 12 hours late but in step 3 it does say "stop moving"

Damn, wanted to post a gtfo meme based on the previous message

But cant send imgs ;_;

[royal ginkgo]

how to deal with a big dude?

silently

[opal delta]

Easy one is 3-man strike at the back with hammers

[true pilot]

shouldnt it be LIST AMMOPACK?

or does AMMO also work

[mint light]

ammo works

Or I am having a terrible brainfart

[royal ginkgo]

What if i'm alone with bots, can i order bots attack at the same time?

[royal ginkgo]

yeah works

[little ridge]

...how do you think filters work?

Why do you think LIST E_XX works?

it's just a partial match

so LIST AMMO would list AMMOPACKS

[mint light]

Nope

[true pilot]

listen sleepo this game is funky

[mint light]

in that case you learn to solo

[little ridge]

since there's nothing else that contains AMMO in it

[true pilot]

if you wait for them to get close enough they should melee it with you

or theyll shoot it

[little ridge]

It's also the reason why LIST E_50 can also match FOG_TURBINE_50 or KEY_ORANGE_50

even if they're not in the same zone

[little ridge]

I know didnt want to sound aggressive

[royal ginkgo]

i can kill silently big dude solo?

[mint light]

It was the hand gestures 🤌

[little ridge]

to be fair, I should stop using LIST E_XX there's no point...

[mint light]

with practice yeah

[royal ginkgo]

and hammer?

[mint light]

but honestly you will not do this whole game solo with bots

Yes with hammer

[royal ginkgo]

so most damage is the back of the head?

[mint light]

Back of the head, the go for another limb, repeat till dead

with full charges preferably

if timing is correct he will stay staggered

[royal ginkgo]

bots helped, we did it)

no alarm

[mint light]

👍

[torn grove]

75% will stagger

Back of head then back

[analog flicker]

15damage iirc

I still wish Bat did 15 dmg

[glacial shard]

did R1C1 with bots

First try

[normal lake]

Gaming

[glacial shard]

gambled a bit and uses 1 sniper sentry, 1 shotgun sentry and 1 full auto sentry

from my observations

hel auto sentry is ass

[mint light]

why ......

[wispy bluff]

Spice and flavour

[mint light]

we told you 2 burst and 1 sniper. the sentry choice is just an illusion. its burst always

and sometimes a sniper to complete

oh well good job on passing

[glacial shard]

so Auto is ass, Shotgun might be good in a specific instance but not this one. Sniper one seems to be best at covering long distances

leaving Burst as best all rounder

[torn grove]

Shotgun is very rarely useful

[junior latch]

Auto isnt „ass“ its just super ultra niche

[wicked solstice]

mmm take scattergun instead

[torn grove]

Scatter sentry

[junior latch]

Shotgun in theory has more output than burst

But you need it setup right and no longer want tool after

[wicked solstice]

I usually just take burst cannon or scattergun

[wispy bluff]

Them other sentries need more fucking bullets

[glacial shard]

oh yeah

a shotgun shell isnt that much bigger than a bullet

[wicked solstice]

ohhh we were talking about sentries

[glacial shard]

so we could fit 500 of them

[wicked solstice]

Yeah i agree with mako, scatter sentry

[mint light]

good morning m8 🙂

[wicked solstice]

yeah man I’m tired

[torn grove]

What

[glacial shard]

I mean it doesn't justify burst carrying 250 rounds but Shotgun 50

[wicked solstice]

I honestly wish biotagging slowed down shotgun sentry firerate

Because it just dumps rounds way too fast

[torn grove]

Shells r generally much larger...

[wicked solstice]

Like if it had some pen

And slowed down firerate with tags

[mint light]

can you give hel auto turret, sniper damage on each bullet? just for a weekend

[torn grove]

What if it made it more like a choke mod

[glacial shard]

okay, if 50 shells is what we get slow down the rpm and give it penetration

also choke for longer range

[torn grove]

Pen wouldn't make sense

[wicked solstice]

not repeating what I did to Sawed off

[mint light]

ok 😦

[wicked solstice]

not in a realistic sense, but in a game sense it would be nice

[wicked solstice]

Tbf i could accidentally just go crazy again

[torn grove]

Still disagree. It already had a wide radius. It doesn't need penetration too

[wicked solstice]

mmm but like

:3

see this is what I mean DJ

sometimes i get a little funny

[mint light]

nah I am joking 😅

[wicked solstice]

How many “bullets” does the sentry use per shot?

[wispy bluff]

Sniper sentry was so good in R6 and 7 but somehow got worse

Shotgun is... Sort of fine? Minus range limitations. Still waiting for that bodyshot fix.

[normal lake]

didnt it take a nerf or two

[wicked solstice]

“Somehow”: bro they literally nerfed it

[wispy bluff]

What balance implications

tell me

[wicked solstice]

nah, I’m too lazy

[normal lake]

that and the other sentries have gotten better well idk about burst

[wicked solstice]

Read the patch notes

[wispy bluff]

"Oh, it actually hits targets as intended"

[normal lake]

burst has always been good tho

[wicked solstice]

[wispy bluff]

amazing balance implication

[wicked solstice]

That was shotgun sentry iirc

Because it was shooting at the ceiling

[wispy bluff]

I'm actually going crazy over that.

[normal lake]

better question is, is it a buff or a bugfix

[wispy bluff]

Both.

But real answer is that it's a buff.

[mint light]

sniper in R6 was OP af

[normal lake]

maybe shotgun sentry was intentionally designed to shoot the ceiling

[mint light]

as well

[wispy bluff]

That mechanic was not in the game until now, sentries literally only knew how to aim for heads

[wicked solstice]

Something went really wrong with it’s targeting lol

[wispy bluff]

They made it specifically for HEL sentry because it was so shit

[glacial shard]

shotgun sentry should aim for chest to maximise pelets hit

[wispy bluff]

You'd think

[glacial shard]

it doesn't?

[wispy bluff]

Its going for head at the moment.

Devs are thinking about changing it.

[normal lake]

i quite literally cannot take shotgun sentry seriously

[wicked solstice]

I really like it for solo play

[normal lake]

literally only take burst because auto is trash, shotgun is a fucking meme atm, and sniper one shots me to much

[mint light]

stop walking in front

that last one is 100% you

[wicked solstice]

Inb4 it whips around and nails you

I loved that patch

[normal lake]

yeah but thats only part of the problem

other problem is im incredibly lazy

and sniper takes better setup

i can caveman place a burst anywhere and it will be effective

[wispy bluff]

I like the aesthetics and sounds of auto sentry, but goddamn bringing it is a meme

[mint light]

thats also a you part. both parts boil down to : you 😏

[wispy bluff]

It's basically Cfoam without ability to lock doors

[normal lake]

damn straight it does

[normal lake]

cfoam but it lets some leak past

[wispy bluff]

Best I can think of Is using it like a brave support tool

See wave > slam it down > kill wave > pick up and move on

You literally can't leave it alone because it works best when it helps you to keep monsters away

But it's too much work and the damage actually dealt by other sentries saves you ammo

You can also combine it with other sentries (especially burst) to effectively lock down routes, but once again : twice the tool for same crap.

Until that thing has like 1000 ammo it's just not worth it

[normal lake]

im at the point where if im not running 2 sentries, mines, and biotracker i am actually starting to try and strategize for the levels im playing

its such a default npc pick for me at this point because it works for most levels

[normal lake]

or ya know, just wasnt worse than other sentries in every way except the least useful way

[wispy bluff]

Yeah, sentry that's not supposed to kill is quite a brain twister

[normal lake]

its like the choice between a slower attack sentry that kills enemies vs a fast attack sentry that gives enemies a nice haircut then shuts down the choice be obvious

[glacial shard]

I love when a room is completely dark. Can see the enemies much easier

[wispy bluff]

I mean there are cases where you wish someone could hold the wave at a safe distance

And Cfoam has a disadvantage where you commit to route you cut off because you can move it.

[glacial shard]

only need a quick flashlight sweep at the floor for feet

[wispy bluff]

So yeah. It's literally coaming the floor just more versatile placement wise.

[normal lake]

see id agree but cfoam is just strictly better because it can hold off multiple routes at once

for less time but more consistency + covering more bases id rather just have cfoam

that and cfoam has gigachad synergy with mines

[wispy bluff]

You know what they should do? Make it so you place and pick up auto sentry instantly.

None of that hold E crap

[glacial shard]

lick that sentry

[normal lake]

its just not enough because hel sentry just isnt gonna out compete cfoam

[glacial shard]

Sniper is kinda hard to use

[normal lake]

its more interesting to have a sentry with a different purpose it just doesnt fulfill a unique purpose

[glacial shard]

unless you headshot a giant, its wasted

[normal lake]

a lot of people take lower damage higher ammo weapons for this reason

can actually use guns like that on smalls without wasting 15% ammo on a single striker

[glacial shard]

I did manage to headshot some giants in R1C1

[normal lake]

personally i prefer hel rifle to sniper cus once you get used to the small wind up its basically a sniper rifle with more ammo but less damage

that and being overpenetrating

[wispy bluff]

Slightly crap against giants, but otherwise great funnel cleaner

Sigh. Anyway...

[wicked solstice]

If you get those giant lineups tho

[mint light]

line up 3 giants, 3 shots. one bullet one giant. same output

[wicked solstice]

Mmmmmmmm

[normal lake]

yeah its not the greatest against giants but its a solid pick esspecially if you get lineups

[wispy bluff]

4 shots actuslly unless team assists

120 / 30 = 4

[mint light]

there is always team assist

cause peeps be shooting around

[normal lake]

i strongly dislike hel rifles scope tho

hel rifles scope ugly as hell

[mint light]

I only take it for some reactors. thats it

[normal lake]

yeah i basically only take it for levels id like a sniper rifle that will be useful elsewhere

[wispy bluff]

I see it as HCP with range and even worse hip fire

[normal lake]

i mean in terms of damage fall off and penetration id say hel rifle is strictly better

but i usually will take hcp instead of it

hcp is just more comfortable for most situations

[wispy bluff]

Crouching backwards and taking hipfire whiff shots with HELR is an experience

[normal lake]

i basically never hip fire

even if only for a few frames i still aim down sights

altho i guess ive been changing on that cus ive played a lot of new vegas lately and aiming down sights in new vegas is a mess

im still on the fence for revolver vs hcp

i fucking love both weapons but i cannot decide which i prefer

[floral verge]

how's rundown 6 guys

is it fun

[mint light]

short, easy and ends on 2 good maps

[wicked solstice]

but also fun yes

[mint light]

sure, I'll give it that

[normal lake]

id say its overall pretty fun and the levels are generally pretty good for bots

checkpoints are nowhere near as bad as i remember them being but there is still a lot

[mint light]

I think its unchanged. but meaby not

[wispy bluff]

Easy apparel unlocks.

[normal lake]

i have no clue

[mint light]

I knew that would appeal to you 🙂

[normal lake]

it just feels as if there are less than i remember

but after a few days short term memory loss kicks in so who knows

c3 is still my favorite level but ive yet to get to d3 or d4

so maybe that will change

[wispy bluff]

I think the only levels that dont appeal to me are B2 and D4

[mint light]

i prefer D3 and D4. C3 is too easy

[normal lake]

what was b2 again

[mint light]

2 uplinks in sec

[wispy bluff]

B2 is just kinda bland and D4... Eurgh. The 30 FPS is a nice touch.

[normal lake]

literally played it under a week ago dont even remember

[normal lake]

yeah its not ringing a bell

[mint light]

had no fps drops on D4. hmmm weird

[normal lake]

these a and b tier maps are to braindead man

[wispy bluff]

Scan HSU pod, error alarm to extraction

[wicked solstice]

i like all the R6 level’s except AX

[wispy bluff]

It's like R1A1 only slightly harder and with more scans

[mint light]

I don't dislike them, its just meh. D3 and D4 i would not mind replaying couple times

[normal lake]

all i remember about that level was going in expecting an A tier map and got the le switcheroo

[wicked solstice]

yeah lol it’s just very tedious imo, and now that I’ve played R5 it feels like a downgraded R5D1

[wispy bluff]

Ax is fine. I love the bridge assault. Wish the spoiler place was more optimised though.

Also they downgraded the blood door

I liked the old one standing against a bottomless pit way more

[normal lake]

r6d2 had a fucking blood door with children behind it and nearly crashed my game bro

[wicked solstice]

R6D2 blood door moment

[normal lake]

literally first time i ever dropped below 30 fps on this rig for gtfo

[mint light]

when even Artek notices nerfs .... man and then peeps say it "feels"the same

[wispy bluff]

It's not even a nerf, just aesthetics

[normal lake]

once the gore from the mine disappeared tho everything went back to normal thank fuck

[mint light]

lel, the abortion door

ah no wait it comes after the abortion door

nvm

[normal lake]

either way it was fucked

shit was wild my pc barely made it through

attempt 1 tho it wasnt that bad, only on attempt 2 was it laggy af

[visual lily]

Anyone elses discord blocked?

[latent palm]

yes

theres been a sussus AMOGUS

AMONGUS

[glacial shard]

I got blocked on my windows app

had to use web

[flat perch]

same here

[glacial shard]

works now

I think discord did poopoo

[lavish jay]

correct

[wispy bluff]

"Cloudflare is blocking desktop clients"

[analog flicker]

mobile clients

[shadow crypt]

welp, i bought GTFO according with my friend to play together cuz i think that it's a great game but at the end they all dodged me so now im alone with no one to play together, i'd like to find a group of people that are all beginners so we can play together and mean while leart together from the basics.
i'm from Italy, so its gonna be great if the first language will be italian, otherwise still fine with english.
anyone wanna join? i'm gonna play almost everynight around 12 p.m.

[coarse grail]

hey, try posting in #lfg-beginners for this. It might be hard to find another group of completely fresh players but you're more likely to find newer people like that in #lfg-beginners than in here

And welcome to the game, hope you enjoy 🙂