#gtfo-chat

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little ridge
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without alerting room? Sure especially if they're all facing the same way and one of them is a shooter

serene jewel
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wasn't that like the very beginning

wispy bluff
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Yeah, the game had 4 different hammer reskins

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Then they added the other melees in like OG R6 or something

serene jewel
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hm, I'll give it a shot

wispy bluff
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They've been the laughing stock ever since

junior latch
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hammer does more instant stagger than bat :>

serene jewel
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I just like the speed of the knife but maybe it's not as big of a pro as I think

coarse grail
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it doesn't really matter

wispy bluff
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I mean they do provide different vibe, so it has to count

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Hammer is fucking ugly

coarse grail
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If you think its fun, use it

serene jewel
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also wow it's impossible to find games via matchmaking

coarse grail
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but thats about it

junior latch
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knife has a niche, which is killing smalls (quickly)

serene jewel
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yes

junior latch
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if you want that for a level then take it

wispy bluff
mint light
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lfg

coarse grail
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in game matchmaking is ass

queen galleon
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TY very much.

serene jewel
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ye

coarse grail
# queen galleon TY very much.

Oh also one last thing, machine pistol is a bit of a weird weapon, probably esp weird in solo when you want to start removing enemy threats ASAP. Its hard when that weapon has an effective range of like 5-10m

queen galleon
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okay

glacial shard
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is R1A1 good stealth practice map?

vestal crystal
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no

glacial shard
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R3A1?

vestal crystal
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r6d3 r5d1

burnt flume
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A newer player looking to avoid waking enemies up could probably do any map tbh

wispy bluff
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Define stealth practicing

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Stabbing sleeping enemies? Almost any level is good for that.

glacial shard
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sneaking around for majority of the map

last parrot
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r3c1 is a decent level at that

opaque folio
wispy bluff
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I don't think they have that unlocked.

burnt flume
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Yeah sure just throw the new player into r7c3 with optionals

opaque folio
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XD

vestal crystal
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i think he's just playing the wrong game

glacial shard
coarse grail
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Do you mean to practice solo or with a team?

glacial shard
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solo, with bots

burnt flume
glacial shard
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what? I love this game, its just hard

burnt flume
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The game isn't that much stealth once you really get going

coarse grail
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Most levels are fine, R1B1 maybe?

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If you want to practice killing regular enemies in stealth

analog flicker
glacial shard
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isn't R1B1 personnel id's?

analog flicker
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Yes

vestal crystal
analog flicker
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Get 12 IDs. 7 different Zones with varying ID counts up to 18 total

mint light
mint light
analog flicker
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R1B1 does have some alarms but none of them are particularly difficult

strange vine
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Tips on r1d1?

analog flicker
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Preferably stealth rooms to the best of your ability.
If you end up needing resource after the first alarm you can open the side doors for more (these will be filled with enemies)

true pilot
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dont die

mint light
# strange vine Tips on r1d1?

Solo hold first class IV with 1 or 2 sentries. clear next zone. have 2 sentries clear the class V waves. clear next zone. have 2 sentries clear class V waves or shoot em. (for real easy, foam ladder. alarm is free)
Go to reactor, grab resources l, have bio be on his A game. when last scan is done: run

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20 min +-

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and you done

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This should be without going into resources. if you go in them, well ... never been there so no clue

true pilot
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The zones themselvrs can also be tricky

mint light
true pilot
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yeah

little ridge
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but yeah, kinda

little ridge
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Or for when you really cant be bothered to clear room X because it's more than 2 rooms away so no wave is gonna spawn there and wake shit up

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Still, I'd start with R1B1

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Try to kill as many as you can (no bots, just you) without waking the room up

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First room has a good bunch

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Then try to do it faster

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Then try to wake the room up and kite around

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Then try to do 1-2-3 together and see how fast you can clear without taking damage or taking as little as you can

gray pilot
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dont make them angry!!

little ridge
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Make them angry and bonk them

glacial shard
gray pilot
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are you going to stealth your way through r2d2 now, lord luna?

glacial shard
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only the starting bit

gray pilot
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i believe in you

glacial shard
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just had a guy dip on me in LFG for picking R2D2

unreal crystal
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I’m excited to see your progress

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That level is a hard stealth, but I think you’ve got it in a few tries

radiant ether
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I hope you'll get the completion that you always deserved Lord Luna! ❤️

vestal crystal
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going to stealth the first room before the blood door? thats pretty sick

glacial shard
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first run failed cause friendly heard "warm" and not "worm"

coarse grail
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put it in chat 🙂

mint light
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good luck

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and put in the code at the last 10 seconds so you have more time to loot side zones. you want to touch the reactor resources as late as possible

unreal crystal
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Shut the fuck up

wispy bluff
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Or you can always do "can you spell" thing and provide examples like "WORM as in WORMS in my backyard"

glacial shard
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lost the game cause someone fucked stealth with a room with 5 giants and a bunch of shooters

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we had no ammo

cedar wing
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out of curiosity, what was the run?

wispy bluff
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People should really lay off the sprint button...

glacial shard
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R2D2 stage 3 I think

cedar wing
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rip, gl next time

glacial shard
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I hate mutes

cedar wing
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:(

glacial shard
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only 3/4 people talked

vestal crystal
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Problem is not the talking brotherman

wispy bluff
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Mutes are fine

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They usually play better. Usually.

mystic moss
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surely if all 4/4 people talked you would've gotten the clear
communication is key !

glacial shard
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also sleepers kept spawning way after the wave was over

mystic moss
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r2d2 do be like that

glacial shard
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or more precisely kept coming

cedar wing
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Yeah they can lag behind, best to run back 2 rooms just to check, especially on levels with very large rooms

wispy bluff
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One guy should always stay behind and watch out for them stragglers. Maybe even close a door.

coarse grail
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exclusive missions for big content creators? 🥲

junior latch
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im not big enough Sadge

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am smol

vestal crystal
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I love exclusive content!

mystic moss
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mom i wanna be a gtfo influencer

glacial shard
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not even gonna try to make content creation for GTFO with my bad skill

coarse grail
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Maybe Markiplier will invite me to play R9A1 with him

unique comet
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exposure of the game > fixing bugs
apparently tomLUL

coarse grail
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I don't really get it

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If they are gonna make new levels to incentivise creators to promote the game

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why not just promote the game with new levels

hollow quarry
unique comet
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at least GTFO has more viewers than Diablo 4 oohgghkk

junior latch
coarse grail
glacial shard
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I heard some bugs are here from day 1

cedar wing
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weren't some of the bugs hard to reproduce due to network issues?

unique comet
coarse grail
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Is this not a new thing? I assumed as it was just announced it was new

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or am I tripping something

vestal crystal
hollow quarry
junior latch
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i can not believe @hollow quarry would PERSONALLY hate all content creators below 25 viewers avg on twitch and below 1000 subs on youtube smh (jk, love ya calle)

coarse grail
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I see, and those missions are like bounties for content creators to hit

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I saw something like this before, okay

mint light
burnt flume
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99% of gtfo players will never be this big

unique comet
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you should be worried about the stream snipers, who play as sleepers

glacial shard
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someone kept typing codes too soon

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I think it was the mute

hollow quarry
raw shard
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I feel like the twitch and youtube thing is very one or the other in this community

mint light
raw shard
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you're either big on twitch or on youtube

hollow quarry
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In that case, create a lurkit account, ping me personally and I can invite

glacial shard
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we had 30 seconds to Type a code

cedar wing
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Would be awesome if Bricky made another gtfo series tho

glacial shard
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it was the mute this whole time

vestal crystal
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Stop blaming the mute lol

burnt flume
coarse grail
modern coral
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I am sure that there are no other factors involved in your R2D2 loss.

raw shard
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Oh I see

mint light
raw shard
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Don't specify if it's either or but I assumed it meant at least both

glacial shard
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popular youtubers make poor reviewers

burnt flume
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the mutes can be crazy but it's stupid to blame them for everything, that being said, I can blame a mute for losing a different r2d2 run

cedar wing
unique comet
modern coral
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I only blame mutes when they take bio on R7D2 and then refuse to clear waves.

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Which has happened like 3 times.

mystic moss
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a good gtfo player would adapt to the situation !

glacial shard
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adapt with fuckin what? 5 bullets?

unique comet
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a knife

cedar wing
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glowsticks

unique comet
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introduce a new tool: glow-stick gun
uses glowsticks as ammo

burnt flume
unique comet
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this tool counters moths

mint light
hollow quarry
unique comet
vestal crystal
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lol

mystic moss
hollow quarry
unique comet
raw shard
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hold w

vivid panther
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or big rooms with 8+ scouts

vestal crystal
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Voxy teaching arc

glacial shard
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like clearing a room in under 2 minutes and get the code

mystic moss
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nah i'm relegating this to @modern coral

coarse grail
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Run around charging your hammer part ways then cancelling, if you see an enemy don't cancel and hit it

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if you see 2 enemies walk and hit the first one then hit the second one

mint light
wispy bluff
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It's literally just about being confident and Agressive

vestal crystal
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😳

wispy bluff
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As long as you don't sprint you can just chain melee everything you see minus giants - they usually force you to slow down, but smalls are free game.

hollow tendon
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I don't get it

unique comet
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what seems to be the issue

hollow tendon
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The game is about to end with R8 (which is soon assuming the devs actually work on their game), but they start a creator program right now ?

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Wouldn't it have been better to do that earlier to promote the game ?

unique comet
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I wouldn't bet on "soon" eeeeeeghgk

hollow tendon
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Well

swift wyvern
hollow tendon
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"assuming the devs actually work"

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which is not a thing

swift wyvern
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The challenges of the game moves on from clearing rooms by C levels anyway

wispy bluff
hollow tendon
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The challenge is to actually get 25 viewers with GTFO only

raw shard
coarse grail
burnt flume
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why would I use LRF to sync rooms when whatever light I have on my gun does the same thing

unique comet
burnt flume
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like you don't quite need the LRF's whatever the hell

hollow tendon
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Shoulda made a 10C content creator role instead

wispy bluff
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Lights up lockers and crates real good too while at it.

swift wyvern
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Can we make spear balanced by making it so that I can just fuckin' yeet it like a javelin???

unique comet
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for anyone who is learning the game, play solo with bots. no one will make decisions for you, giving you an opportunity to learn GTFO fast
it takes a few fuck ups to learn a lesson

hollow quarry
mystic moss
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reall

swift wyvern
modern coral
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MONO BUILD

hollow quarry
unique comet
hollow quarry
raw shard
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oopsie

glacial shard
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real Chads put dev build in public build as optional

vivid panther
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I want a list of most used tiles

hollow quarry
hollow tendon
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No actually

raw shard
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The game could definitely do with a couple more normal tiles for variety

hollow tendon
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There's no form of "exploration" once you've seen all of the assets over and over

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Which is what interested me in the first place

coarse grail
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walking around on similar tiles doesn't seem like a big deal to me

swift wyvern
coarse grail
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As long as the objective and challenge in the level is interesting

hollow tendon
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Some maps are literally the same asset used twice & mirrored

raw shard
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It's by far not boring for me yet lmao

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New tiles are just exciting though

unique comet
swift wyvern
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People will have 14389 hours and be like "wow everything looks the same" 🙄

hollow quarry
visual lily
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@hollow quarry ngl that was one of the best best announcements after a while

hollow tendon
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They're very well known

hollow quarry
visual lily
vivid panther
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Maybe consider making more unique props which can be placed in existing maps
and have them drive a narrative

glacial shard
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R2D2 is too hard

shut vapor
raw shard
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I mean, the recent patch notes have been pretty baller too. lost of annoying things fixed

mint light
hollow quarry
modern coral
mint light
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it's not even the hardest reactor

swift wyvern
burnt flume
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hearing from some people applying that the bar to even be able to apply/sign up is a lot more than you can get from being a dedicated player/streamer in this space

shut vapor
burnt flume
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because well, it's a niche/smaller game, not as many people to build a community from

hollow tendon
mint light
hollow tendon
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Since you obliterated the difficulty side of the game, the only thing left is exploration

vestal crystal
shut vapor
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It's so difficult to stay awake wym

hollow tendon
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which only existed in the first 100h

vestal crystal
hollow quarry
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It's interesting how different aspects of the game gets different type of people excited. Exploration, lore, co-op, the hardcore aspect. It's hard to accomodate all of them

mint light
shut vapor
hollow quarry
hollow tendon
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I was interested in lore but not to the point of obliterating gameplay to make purely lore-related levels (cf R6 ext)

modern coral
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R7 is just better.

swift wyvern
shut vapor
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I'm not spending an hour and a half walking home

hollow tendon
shut vapor
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After driving for 8 hours

modern coral
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R4 and R5 are basically only their E-tiers.

hollow tendon
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Well

modern coral
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if I'm being honest.

hollow tendon
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3 out of 6 since R1 was to introduce the game anyway

unique comet
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you gotta really feed your writers now to finish R8 and the game, Calle. let the Warden save the world or let the prisoners get a taste of freedom that is even worse than being the prisoner because Earth is a freaking wasteland
feed the writers

hollow tendon
modern coral
swift wyvern
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Can R8F1 have the Portal Gun please

unique comet
visual lily
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@hollow quarry so just to get this straight do gtfo vets also get access to these missions?

shut vapor
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How i want the game to end:

The prisoners escape and find an island to leave peacefully, in the ending cutscene: shirtless hackett

modern coral
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R4 mostly had a terrible weapon roster, and that's assuming you didn't play the true mega-sweat loadout.

raw shard
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gtfo cutscenes when?

mystic moss
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its called the drop sequence

raw shard
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so true actually

hollow tendon
raw shard
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my favourite cutscene

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If you're playing on gardens you get the feature length edition

modern coral
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Naw, half-life taught us not to need custscenes.

swift wyvern
hollow tendon
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You know it would've been amazing if the trailers summarized the lore of the previous rundowns

raw shard
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I think cutscenes would be kinda cool in this game ngl

modern coral
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Hunt Down the Freeman taught us to really not need cutscenes.

unreal crystal
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oh god

raw shard
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Not excessive amounts

vivid panther
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honestly I want #game_suggestions channel back so I can have my popcorn to eat

shut vapor
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Imagine we playing r4c1 for the first time and we open the door towards extract and a tank cutscene plays with it roaring

hollow tendon
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game suggestion is a good explanation of why the game is artificially hard for people

gusty burrow
shut vapor
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Shame it would break the flow

swift wyvern
hollow tendon
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They're so damn stupid you'd wonder how they can still walk with their 2 legs

hollow quarry
swift wyvern
unique comet
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do it

hollow quarry
glacial shard
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is it me or Burst Turrets feel like they shoot bb's?

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also sleepers run past them no issue

swift wyvern
modern coral
unique comet
swift wyvern
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burst turrets use bbs (faster)

fading magnet
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Heard your looking for a streamer that is clinically scared of horror games to play live and wake up his entire house making content ?

radiant ether
modern coral
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Also burst sentries are kind of OP these days.

swift wyvern
wispy bluff
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I brought 3 bursts for class V scan in R2B2.
I saw exactly 2 biters after finishing the scan.

unique comet
vestal crystal
glacial shard
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when?

vestal crystal
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Yesterday

gray pilot
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gtfo content creators unite

unique comet
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🦗

vestal crystal
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Maybe you forgot it was an alarm because we didn't have to shoot anything

wispy bluff
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It takes 2 bursts to kill a biter

visual lily
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Calle

glacial shard
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and in R2D2 3 bursts can't kill anything

visual lily
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That minimum requirements

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Why

wispy bluff
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Probably same for shooters if it aims for the head

modern coral
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It would be much worse with no sentries.

visual lily
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@hollow quarry should have removed the minimal requirements

knotty bobcat
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Burst sentry goated
1 burst to stun
second burst to kill

hollow quarry
swift wyvern
fading magnet
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Where do we sign up for the program. I have around 60 ccv and could def make some hilarious fun content with this

swift wyvern
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Sure it's a good way to weed out randos (like me) but what about people who contribute lots to the community but would never utilize those platforms?

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(unlike me)

gusty burrow
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"If a creator is an insanely good fit for GTFO, we reserve the right to make an exception."
Literally right after the requirements.

mint light
hollow quarry
glacial shard
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won't have enough ammo

unique comet
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@MrRandom no luck, mate

knotty bobcat
mint light
glacial shard
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nuhuh

mint light
modern coral
junior latch
wispy bluff
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Bring supply efficiency then

modern coral
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Don't bring supply efficiency, it teaches bad habits.

wispy bluff
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Invalidates half the levels in this game

mint light
knotty bobcat
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Bring supply efficiency, and then grind for more supply efficiency when it runs out

modern coral
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Loot every side zone fully when you go there.

vestal crystal
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voxy pls help this poor soul 😭

unique comet
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spoiler alert: there is enough ammo to finish every mission in GTFO

coarse grail
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Something is going wrong in the shooting perhaps

glacial shard
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on what timer? No time to loot

mint light
wispy bluff
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Not alone.

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With a team though...

hollow quarry
modern coral
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Even alone, lmao.

unique comet
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which mission are they doing?

wispy bluff
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One guy pings, the rest B-line for the package

coarse grail
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R2D2

hollow quarry
swift wyvern
severe trench
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If I happened to be “accepted” am I allowed to create a SEPERATE yt account for gtfo content creation instead of my main?

modern coral
severe trench
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Cuz it just seems so different unless it’s required to stay on the main acc

glacial shard
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no 1000 subs

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so gotta be main

unique comet
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R2D2 is tough, gotta try over and over if you are new. that's pretty much it

modern coral
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If you're struggling to make progress quickly, you can shortcut a lack of stealth skill by shooting through rooms.

modern coral
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Really only the scouts are a bit spooky there.

severe trench
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I could just go into the creative art category for gtfo rather than gtfo gameplay content

modern coral
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This is much easier with 3 other humans.

swift wyvern
# glacial shard on what timer? No time to loot

Idk if you've gotten as far as R2D2 without knowing this, but just in case: You don't have to put the code in as soon as you find it. You can run down the clock and use that time to restock and reposition

modern coral
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Omg, 0.1s HEL Gun is so fast...

cinder pebble
swift wyvern
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That gives you some time to communicate and distribute resources during R2D2, but you need good comms and people need self sufficiency

glacial shard
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I know that, a guy on my team wasted 30 seconds by putting it in fast

coarse grail
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are you holding on the bridge?

modern coral
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I know we've been joking about that, but that genuinely should not matter.

coarse grail
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If you defend in some crackpot corner you might get delayed waves

modern coral
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The free codes are just ZZZzzzz downtime.

glacial shard
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First few waves, then by the door

modern coral
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You don't have time to loot the actual side areas.

coarse grail
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wdym by the door

glacial shard
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the door that opens on the side

swift wyvern
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Don't take any resources with you when you go to explore the side areas, too.. immediately gobble anything you find when you're not in the reactor room

coarse grail
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I think that might be bad

vestal crystal
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whos idea was that?

coarse grail
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but idk, just hold on the bridge

modern coral
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Also, reactor is so trivial to loot, that insta-coding shouldn't matter at all.

cinder pebble
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That is one of the main issues with defending in one of the side zones actually, never realized how delayed the waves are.

modern coral
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^

cinder pebble
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Bridge is optimal, just put sentries on each side

modern coral
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You can have 1 person not at the front

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grab an ammo

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and come back

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If missing that one person is a big deal, either it isn't and you're just blaming them or they were hard carrying the wave clear.

thin dawn
swift wyvern
cinder pebble
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Our group still hasn't attempted e1 yet

modern coral
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AltR4E1 is just a clear demonstration that most R4 players were hot garbage.

cinder pebble
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Lol

wispy bluff
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R2D2 is quite hard, but far from the worst the game has to offer.

cinder pebble
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R2D2 best reactor IMO

wispy bluff
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It could be.

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R4D1 was okay too.

cinder pebble
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Actually idk anymore

thin dawn
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my group actually beat r2d2

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cant clear an e level yet tho lmao

knotty bobcat
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Finally got around to beating R2E1 a few days ago, after maybe 5 failed attempts total.
''Lol lmao but its the easiest E level''

wispy bluff
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Classic gamer moment

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It's sometimes true but like...

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Some people are just... Uh... Dare I say inferior?

thin dawn
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the EASIEST??

knotty bobcat
knotty bobcat
surreal plaza
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Wish I can buy the model w hyperseal irl man when it rains my backyard literally becomes Louisiana

thin dawn
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my group just falls apart at the final surge alarms

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and all the damn fog

knotty bobcat
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Also super fun when they say ''oh it's easy just c-foam stall the ladder''

oh so, it's easy if you just cheese the entire thing?

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Who would've thunk

visual lily
thin dawn
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weve tried out chaos a few times but having someone have to babysit the immortal is so boring

visual lily
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Guy said r5e1 extreme is easy and bro cheesed p mom fight

thin dawn
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(and we also died)

wispy bluff
visual lily
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Nope

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Or maybe

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Not sure

knotty bobcat
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This game is only as fun as it is hard.
I feel like once i've played through all the rundowns, and know them well enough to do em all easily because I know what to expect and what to do. Aka having foresight and not being blindsided by that fucking 3 Hybrid error alarm.

I'll probably stop playing the game

wispy bluff
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What does cheesing a mother looks like. Door bug?

visual lily
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There was a little metal railing where babies would get stuck

cedar wing
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I've forgotten which rundown it was, maybe r3 5 or 6 c2 but there's a spot you can stand to bypass the entire sustain alarm, takes a lot of the challenge out of the following 3 hybrid error lol

vernal nebula
knotty bobcat
outer gull
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Doing dumb shit keeps the game fun too, once you reach a high enough skill level, you can take dumb loadouts and have fun running through old levels

vernal nebula
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Sounds like fun

knotty bobcat
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Makes it especially fun when every mission takes nearly 2 hours

knotty bobcat
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We don't fail alot though.
We fucking struggle and barely get by the skin of our teeth, but we somehow manage in the end.

And that's with 2 bots as dead weight

ionic pollen
# thin dawn my group just falls apart at the final surge alarms

It took my crew about 12 hours worth of tries to get r2e1, with the first surge in the big foggy area after the error alarm starting being the pressure point.

The thing that made the difference eventually was having an auto sentry that i carried with me and plonked down on every scan

visual lily
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Or are there still some levels ?

outer gull
knotty bobcat
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The only 2 missions I remember failing at right now is the 3 hybrid error and R2E1

knotty bobcat
visual lily
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Ah

knotty bobcat
#

7 We actually got a bunch of challenge zones left cuz we Did R1, then R7 for the lore, so we were noobies going through R7
And the bulk doors intimated us too much to go into them

#

R4 we went halfway with a trio friendo, they stopped playing, and we decided to do R5 while doing R4 with them to keep things fresh for us all.
And we went into R6 because it just launched so obviously we had to touch the shiny

#

Our plan of going through each Rundown 1 by 1 went out the window

mint light
thin dawn
#

we tried out r5b3 i think? diversion. we tried it and got wiped like 3 times, how is that a b tier level 😭

torn grove
#

Today is the day tho

thin dawn
#

no way we can get our r2e1 any time soon

torn grove
#

And that's one of the problems with my team. I'm like the only one that places sentry reactively

#

But I main bio

thin dawn
#

rough

mint light
#

it's the hardest rundown

thin dawn
#

ah

mint light
#

there ya go

torn grove
#

R5 is a step above every other rundown

thin dawn
#

yeah i could tell with all the PEs

torn grove
#

I still need to clear C3-E1

coarse grail
#

I still say R7E1 is easier than R2E1

mint light
coarse grail
#

I guess its a little close

torn grove
#

The only other missions I haven't beaten r the E's

thin dawn
#

r2 was a pain, the infection is very annoying lol

torn grove
#

Annoying but not hard

#

Relatively

thin dawn
#

my team has yet to beat an e

mint light
#

ofc it depends on the team

eternal maple
#

If you get bad pmom/mom spawns the run is bascially over

mint light
mint light
eternal maple
#

Highly disagree

#

I had the final room have both pmom and charger scout

mint light
#

still made it

#

it's just a stealth thing

torn grove
mint light
#

it's NEVER IMPOSSIBLE

eternal maple
#

Nah its luck

torn grove
#

Rng won't make anything impossible

#

There's very few instances where luck is the deciding factor

eternal maple
#

I mean sure that goes for 99% of levels

mint light
torn grove
#

It's all skill and understanding of mechanics/how to abuse them

mint light
#

It will just make it harder, never impossible

torn grove
#

Maybe not abuse, but use them to ur advantage

eternal maple
#

and rarely does it ever happen

swift wyvern
#

Beating an E level is an accomplishment, no matter what E levels

eternal maple
#

But unless you get lucky with how a charger scout decides to behave with a pmom in the room, chances are you are gonna get got

steel marsh
swift wyvern
# steel marsh no matter how you do it

This was a hot take last time I said it and I'll say it again:
Perma foaming doors and ladder foam is not cheese because they're intended game mechanics

torn grove
steel marsh
#

when i was trying to do R2E1 someone in the squad was losing their mind that we wanted to rush the alarm door for the baby haha

knotty bobcat
steel marsh
#

it was a little raffle gift!

latent palm
swift wyvern
torn grove
torn grove
#

Which some people would consider cheese

steel marsh
#

wait then i have a question

torn grove
swift wyvern
#

It's doable on the last few zones in R2E1 during the error alarm scans

knotty bobcat
#

I've heard that referred to C-foam stalling.

But C-foam ladder is definitely cheese

last parrot
latent palm
last parrot
#

youre using up tool in exchange for less shooty

swift wyvern
knotty bobcat
swift wyvern
#

But as it is right now, that's how the game works and it's clearly intended (not a bug)

steel marsh
#

so after the surge wave where you plug the ladder, if you rush the class four alarm for the neonate, that wouldnt be a cheese cause even though you might be maxing the spawn, the enemies would still not be able to get to you cause the ladder is foamed

rose nova
#

cfoam ladder is not a cheese, and i defend it cause 10c got a video tellin people to foam a ladder, so they accept u can foam the stairs

swift wyvern
#

So I wouldn't even call it abuse

steel marsh
#

yeah

silk blade
#

If you have 4 people with foam you can foam delay for a long time

knotty bobcat
silk blade
#

It's very inefficient but also funny

torn grove
steel marsh
torn grove
#

And ur not shooting when everything is stuck behind a door

silk blade
#

If you do the foam delay and have a mine down it's good

last parrot
#

but you're draining a cfoam launcher

#

you're basically trading your tool refill to keep your ammo

knotty bobcat
#

Isn't c-foaming a ladder forcing the enemies to go up the ladder 1 by 1, since they can't climb the ladder while is foamed on it?

silk blade
#

Yea

latent palm
#

any one that says perma foam/ foam ladder is a cheese/abuse can go design a level then

torn grove
#

I don't really see what point ur arguing. Permafoaming being cheese or what?

junior latch
silk blade
#

Foaming the door to save bullets is good

#

If you finish all scans and have a mine down when they break in they all die

#

If you have a surplus of tool but less ammo then it's def a good option

torn grove
unreal crystal
#

so what argument are we having today

last parrot
#

im arguing its perfectly legal

junior latch
torn grove
last parrot
#

nobody?

junior latch
latent palm
#

loved it

torn grove
junior latch
#

when you are 2 rooms away from a foamed ladder only 1 enemy can get on the ladder at all. But he wont go up/down until the foam is gone, hell just refreeze every 8 seconds (i think) effectively wasting time until the foam vanishes after 4 min

swift wyvern
junior latch
torn grove
swift wyvern
#

It's been in the game for as long as I can remember, and would be trivial to change pathing mechanics

junior latch
#

you can stall for 1 min with 20% foam on a ladder lol

latent palm
#

best foam cheese is the smol ladder to a smol door and 1 big blob gets 1 guy => the rest cant climb up lol

junior latch
#

that 20% foam doesnt even last 20 seconds on a door

wispy bluff
swift wyvern
junior latch
swift wyvern
#

Which is not cheese

knotty bobcat
#

You can't cheese a game if you dont know the game mechanics
Cheesing is by definition exploiting game mechanics

junior latch
swift wyvern
#

Cheese has to be unintended by the design of the game

#

If it's intended, it's not cheese

junior latch
#

ladder foam in how it works IS NOT INTENDED LOL

swift wyvern
#

How? Show me

junior latch
#

???????

swift wyvern
#

Its been in the game forever

#

And would be trivial to change

junior latch
#

because how would you fix that shit

rose nova
#

idk how u would change it

#

at all

torn grove
#

"show me" OMEGADYING

swift wyvern
#

Pathing is one of the most understood and commonly implemented AI functions

rose nova
#

not havin... collisions for 2 meters when enemies go down ladders?

swift wyvern
#

It's trivial to calculate a path

junior latch
#

enemies not breaking doors shurely is intended aswell then right? cuz theres a chance they dont break doors when you far enough away :>

rose nova
#

sometimes the only way to go through a room is with a ladder

swift wyvern
#

If they couldn't calculate the path, then they wouldn't ever use the ladder in the first place

vestal crystal
#

ladder foam only works due to collision, its not intended for 1 foamed enemy to block a whole spawn cap's worth

junior latch
#

yea but where the fuck does calculating a path help with that

#

L opinion

wispy bluff
#

@hollow quarry @untold ravine is foaming ladders and the massive value you get out of it an intended / approved mechanic

rose nova
#

if theres a room with just the entrance of a ladder

#

how do u path

#

how do u path away

#

have enemies just, drop down and get fall damage?

glacial shard
#

guys, I did R2D2

torn grove
rose nova
#

nice

torn grove
#

We're having a pointless argument in here :3

rose nova
#

sorry :3

torn grove
#

@rose nova oh hi slendi, didn't realize that was u

rose nova
#

nono its, jeff

torn grove
#

@rose nova

rose nova
#

_>

swift wyvern
knotty bobcat
#

From what I've heard.

Foaming a ladder uses so little resources, for such a massive effect, it basically breaks the game and makes it easy.
I'm just gonna call it cheese cause that's what it feels like, and stay 2 yards away from anyone suggestion to do it if I struggle with a level.

Vaguely gesturing at everyone ''helping'' me with R2E1. ''It's easy if you just c-foam ladder''

latent palm
swift wyvern
#

If there is another path they could takez they could be programmed to take different paths.. like they already do in other areas of the game

#

Like with doors

rose nova
latent palm
#

what did u do to the funni mexican

swift wyvern
#

It's not an oversight...

#

It's been in the game for years bro

rose nova
#

u know that cant be changed right if they got rid of that room

junior latch
#

DUDE

rose nova
#

they wouldve been FLAMMED

junior latch
#

you do not understand

swift wyvern
#

If they wanted to fix it by now they would have

torn grove
swift wyvern
#

And because they have not, that makes it intended

#

It's a trivial fix

rose nova
#

no if they wanted to fix it they wouldve get annihilated by the pros

mint light
rose nova
#

thats such an iconic room

vestal crystal
#

they fixed one way of door bugging but left the other way in the game, therefore its clearly intended to be able to door bug without cfoam and a legit way to play the game!

junior latch
#

you think the "fix" is for them to not path towards a ladder if another enemy is on it? GREAT now only 1 enemy will take ladder and the rest limbo between ladder and another part

since the ladder blocks other enemies from going up/down even without foam for a short moment

junior latch
#

man great that door bugging is appearantly now intended

rose nova
#

what do they do with that tile then? never use it again?

#

it has a ladder guys, we cant let community ladder foam

rose nova
#

lets never use it again

swift wyvern
junior latch
# swift wyvern Wdym limbo

if an enemy would change path because another enemy is on a ladder (blocking it) then theyd rechange again ... and again... and again

swift wyvern
#

Who are the pros and how would the devs get "annihilated" by them

torn grove
#

I don't think people realize that fixing anything like this isn't always so cut and dry for devs and how something small can completely break other things

swift wyvern
sharp siren
#

Whats the conversation about

rose nova
# swift wyvern Idk what this means

idk if u know of a certain level where people ladder foam a lot, r2e1
one of the most funky tiles it has is a room which only entrance is a ladder
if they changed it, they wouldve recieved a lot of complains

swift wyvern
#

There are examples of game mechanic repathing where this doesn't happen

vestal crystal
sharp siren
#

Lmao

wispy bluff
swift wyvern
#

Idk why you created that limitation up in your head that enemies would do that and then agreed with yourself

junior latch
sharp siren
#

They dis tried to patch it tho lma9

junior latch
#

theyll fucking spaz

sharp siren
#

After r5 since my stupid friend largest did

junior latch
#

man thinking ladder foam is an intended mechanic

#

LOL

sharp siren
#

They did something with collision

junior latch
#

R5C1 is designed with ladder foam in mind 🤡

sharp siren
#

In i dont know wich patch

swift wyvern
#

Of course they'll spaz

knotty bobcat
#

Oh so it's intended and not cheese

swift wyvern
#

I fail to see how that's relevant

sharp siren
#

My man you bait us really good

knotty bobcat
#

Just spam the door open and close, keep them there forever, it's not cheese, it's intentional

sharp siren
#

That shit a 10/10 bait

swift wyvern
last parrot
#

other people

swift wyvern
#

It's not a viable strat lol

knotty bobcat
#

😂

swift wyvern
sharp siren
#

Bo' a wa'a

knotty bobcat
latent palm
swift wyvern
#

Also that strat does technically violate my earlier definition of cheese where you abuse hardware limitation mechanics

#

So.. again not a viable comparison

#

At all

knotty bobcat
rose nova
#

run away with a pack of enemies and spawn cap em, is not cheese it is technically made so more enemies dont spawn

torn grove
#

I love arguments where the side that's clearly wrong and everyone is against doesn't actually consider anything said !!

swift wyvern
torn grove
#

Anyways, what's more preferable for R2E1 sentries? 2 bursts or 1 burst and 1 auto

knotty bobcat
rose nova
#

lmao

knotty bobcat
#

is the cap 25?
I forget

junior latch
#

it might actually fully stop a brunt of a surge wave for some of them

torn grove
swift wyvern
knotty bobcat
junior latch
#

could try 1 burst 1 hel auto

rose nova
#

in a class II

torn grove
#

We've switched between 1 burst, 1 mine, 1 cfoam, 1 bio and 2 bursts instead of foam

rose nova
#

now it has 700 top or somethin but

knotty bobcat
rose nova
#

still unsure

#

problem is just those things eat the tool so fast

torn grove
#

I think auto might be pretty helpful with the first surge after error. That's where we fail the most

knotty bobcat
#

100% to 0% in 1 minute is an impressive waste of ammunition

rose nova
#

i guess its just super super dependant on positionin

#

unlike burst where u can just aim at door or somethin

#

with that one u have to take how many enemies can it target and how to take advantage of the pen

last parrot
#

auto sentry dumps too fast

silk blade
#

A minute of fire is insane

#

Just one minute! For but a minute you too can watch 4 tool packs disappear

last parrot
#

auto pistol could be worth it though

torn grove
#

Aeons gave me a pretty good recommendation for sentry placement for first room. Could ask about 4th surge. I can think of 2 good placements where it'd help quite a bit

knotty bobcat
torn grove
#

Placing reactively could help too

silk blade
vestal crystal
torn grove
silk blade
#

Auto pistol is better for sure

rose nova
#

autopiss

silk blade
#

It does good at stagger, you can choose when to shoot it

knotty bobcat
#

R2E1 gave us enough tool to completely restock all 3 of our sentries, basically

silk blade
#

Also it still pierces so on a crowd it isn't a complete ammo waste

mint light
torn grove
#

We've really only cared about the wide door leading into the room up until now

#

Idk y we never thought to go to the far side and save that door

junior latch
#

which alarm?

torn grove
#

First surge after error

mint light
torn grove
#

Right right

junior latch
#

and you can even push their spawn out 1 further while pulling

mint light
#

So you blast 2 waves before they enter. you'll be done with the alarm

junior latch
#

its also how you fast setup

torn grove
#

Bio and mines can hold entrance while sentries set up for the surge

#

Then sentry people pull door while mines r being set up

torn grove
#

I'll forward this to the team

jade iron
# swift wyvern It's trivial to calculate a path

not to dogpile, but pathfinding is easy in a static weighted graph with one actor and with a simple optimization goal (minimize total distance or maximum cost of any individual edge traversed or whatever)
it starts to look less tractable when you add multiple actors, impose multiple criteria to optimize over, etc.

mint light
#

He pulls when you playing last mine

vestal crystal
#

throw a fog repeller down for the mine deployer holding the error, then pull the door when he's ready

#

turbine can go in with cell/baby and drop stuff off

torn grove
untold ravine
rose nova
#

nom the ladder

junior latch
#

1 ladder to rule them all

swift wyvern
sharp siren
#

You shohld definetly replace ladders with gravity pads

swift wyvern
#

Also they don't constantly calculate new paths, if I remember the path code correctly. Game state triggers the path updates, not steps

wispy bluff
swift wyvern
#

(Might be having a false memory for a different game though)

latent palm
#

MAKES YOU FALL DOWN LADDER WHEN FOAMED

untold ravine
#

like slippery foam?

latent palm
#

ALSO FALL DMG MAKES YOU CRIPPLED NOW

latent palm
untold ravine
#

I do want to make fall damage 20.01 HP

wispy bluff
#

Just tell me if my R2E1 clear is legit or not. Come on, I won't be too mad.

junior latch
#

its not peepoEvil

latent palm
junior latch
#

but who cares florkShrug1

latent palm
#

NO REV

swift wyvern
knotty bobcat
#

I feel like desperately clinging to cfoam ladder not being cheese is the biggest amount of copium you could possibly inhale

untold ravine
swift wyvern
untold ravine
#

and decoy ladders

swift wyvern
#

Every surface is a ladder

untold ravine
#

and ladders that move

swift wyvern
#

Make the player a ladder

knotty bobcat
swift wyvern
#

And make it so I can seafoam myself

#

solved

latent palm
knotty bobcat
#

Become based and give us a new type of enemies, pls, i beg

untold ravine
#

Maybe an auto ||laddder|| sentry

rose nova
#

just add enemies that dont go down ladde- ahhhhh wait

knotty bobcat
#

A new type which is not a boss/mini-boss

latent palm
untold ravine
#

it just shoots ladders

pine root
wispy bluff
#

Alright fine ill best it again

#

...you sons...

untold ravine
#

Sorry, I'm just here to shitpost, my workday already ended

latent palm
pine root
#

Boy you have double jump on 24/7

knotty bobcat
glacial shard
vestal crystal
#

what did you learn?

latent palm
#

i do not lol

#

this i deny

#

every other typo shit u can think yes

#

but double jump?

untold ravine
wispy bluff
#

But what's your personal company unrelated opinion on it

outer lantern
#

GTFO should become woke

untold ravine
#

Can I interest you in a picture of my dog?

rose nova
#

i want a picture of ur cat

wispy bluff
#

Actually I got a better idea

latent palm
mint light
wispy bluff
#

Where that shit

outer lantern
#

hello good sir dev

wispy bluff
untold ravine
#

hello marlowe

outer lantern
#

with r8 y’all should add a poker minigame

wispy bluff
#

Poll us in foam ladder situation

outer lantern
#

just consider it

wispy bluff
#

Coke on, do it

rose nova
#

cocaine on

glacial shard
untold ravine
#

we already have a secret hidden minigame on a terminal.

outer lantern
#

oh shit

glacial shard
#

also how to look for the codes, but will need more terminal time

untold ravine
#

there's also the secret game in the training expedition

glacial shard
#

R2D2

#

longest run yet

pine root
#

What code?

glacial shard
#

the reactor codes

#

some are not free so need to look

pine root
#

Yeah like code 2 4 5 6 or 8

#

all the rest are free

glacial shard
#

isn't 5 free?

pine root
#

No

#

5 is donut room 6 is scout 7 is free and 8 is key hunt#2

untold ravine
#

mnhmmmm donuts

mint light
#

but good, learning is important

glacial shard
#

I can do it a bit but still got to learn

#

killed 3 sleepers in a chain

mint light
#

especially with R2E1 around the corner

pine root
#

Are you struggling with

junior ridge
#

How does one obtain a code to share for others to join in-game?

glacial shard
#

Codes hidden in terminals

mint light
pine root
#

You are help less

#

Gl

mint light
rose nova
#

u click it

#

and u can paste it

#

in a chat or somethin

glacial shard
rose nova
#

:]

junior ridge
#

Oh-- weird.. I don't see that..

pine root
junior ridge
#

I'll look again.

vestal crystal
sharp siren
#

Go to settings

rose nova
pine root
#

Literally if you pass the check you pass the check

rose nova
#

it moves

visual lily
sharp siren
#

Go to settings

#

Bottom left

junior ridge
vestal crystal
#

for 6th code he hopped on the terminal then asked me if i got the code....

sharp siren
#

Youll have the loby code to give

junior ridge
#

it pans with the cursor.. I forgot that was a thing..

pine root
#

rYk

#

is he ready for r2e1

sharp siren
vestal crystal
#

💀

#

ngl i thought about it

sharp siren
#

Knaw i mean

vestal crystal
#

shieeeeeet

vestal crystal
wispy bluff
#

Aside from that did it went smoothly or

vestal crystal
#

yeah it was a normal run

mint light
vestal crystal
#

i dont think he knows how to read logs

#

nor did he ask how

burnt flume
#

I love going to my app data folder

pine root
#

Trueeeee

ionic pollen
#

Funny thing was that we got the bug where the cell and turbine spawn into different zones in that run, not to mention waking up a scout right after the critical surge

#

Made it even sweeter that it wasn't like a textbook perfect run

#

Weirdly starting to feel like playing it again now 😮

pine root
#

R4 be waiting for you

torn grove
thin dawn
#

i would need all the tips in the world to finish r2e1

pine root
visual lily
wispy bluff
#

There are no tips.
Get a carry.

torn grove
#

We woke up 3 when I was playing with Dak, lurker, and gerz

thin dawn
torn grove
#

Died on first error surge tho

visual lily
pine root
thin dawn
#

3 of us are dedicated, we have a couple 4ths who dont play too much

sharp siren
#

shoot a lot

thin dawn
sharp siren
#

might seem like a joke

#

but its truth

visual lily
pine root
#

Which part

thin dawn
#

the final error alarm stacked with all the surge alarms

#

carrying all the cells and neonate and turbine

#

moving so slow

pine root
#

1st auger in error or second

torn grove
sharp siren
#

Most likely fog pit surge

pine root
pine root
thin dawn
#

yeah i figured they just catch up so quick and my team doesnt speed clear besides me

#

one cell

pine root
#

Okay that is good

thin dawn
#

we havent tried in a while either

pine root
#

Is pull those rooms and slow push keep the fog repellers from the start and use them here

#

You should get like 6 uses of fogs and this is where you want to burn them

thin dawn
#

i think we tried pulling, we just got sandwiched

pine root
#

Sentry on the door and mine it if you want to can do some odd spwn blocking strategies

pine root
#

You probs are clearing really slow

thin dawn
#

yeahhh

#

we need to grab more repellers

pine root
#

Max 12 uses min 9 uses

#

They are literally gold in the level

thin dawn
#

😭

ionic pollen
pine root
thin dawn
#

i think whats so discouraging is the no checkpoints. after one run my group just gets absolutely discouraged from trying again

#

i mean, i want to keep trying

ionic pollen
#

Sadly though we opened the last door before doing overload so have to get back to that one for the PE collection

thin dawn
#

yeahh i know

#

been here since r3, watched since launch

sharp siren
#

keep pushing

#

funnily enough GTFO rewards more messy and steady gameplay

#

be messy

thin dawn
#

is r2e1 one of those levels where you need that quad variety?

#

tools i mean

#

bio cfoam sentry mine

#

iirc theres a use for all of them

sharp siren
#

I mean "classic" tool setup its really good value in all levels

wispy bluff
#

Mine was pretty worthless

sharp siren
#

but if you want to optimize you can bring an extra sentry

ionic pollen
#

Yeah I'd say two sentries, foam and bio

sharp siren
#

instead of foam

shut vapor
#

Aren't there a couple blood doors in r2e1

thin dawn
#

yeah

ionic pollen
#

We even tried double foam at some point 😂

sharp siren
#

you go trough 2

shut vapor
#

Foam doesn't seem worth it against surge alarms unless the door you are foaming is right next to you

#

Or ladder

ionic pollen
#

For the ladder it's gold

thin dawn
#

wouldnt mines be super helpful in the end sequence

sharp siren
ionic pollen
#

Mines not so much really

vestal crystal
sharp siren
#

then its not worth it