gtfo-chat

[lofty jacinth]

The zoom does sorta throw me off

but I can see

[wispy bluff]

Literally more damage, 3 times the range and only at the cost like of 1 less magazine

With these changes the gap has been closed somewhat

You're still better off using rifle for mid range combat, while pistol is the superior close range option

[glacial shard]

Can I assassinate a giant striker with a melee weapon with the syringe?

[lofty jacinth]

Yes

But from behind with hammer

[mint light]

Hammer in the back.

[normal lake]

if you do id only go for occi

[mint light]

you do take infect as a trade off tho

[normal lake]

take no extra risk go for garunteed kill

spear should also do the job

[lofty jacinth]

Back in my days we bully giants with part break full charge staggers

Best times

[wispy bluff]

Yes. It's x4 damage for 8 seconds. Don't even need to aim for the head.

[normal lake]

nowadays i get bullied by giants desyncing smacking me from 20 ft away

[lofty jacinth]

Yuh

[wispy bluff]

Spear should though. That's the entire point.

[lofty jacinth]

Does it still do the triple punch combo?

[coarse grail]

I think its 3* but yeah

[glacial shard]

doesn't the knife also work on giants with IIX?

[mint light]

Nope

[wispy bluff]

Probably not

[mint light]

Not one shot

[glacial shard]

pretty sure it does

[wispy bluff]

But with stealth bonus damage... Hmmmmm

[normal lake]

my personal favorite is when a giant decides its gonna do a lick animation then just changes its mind and melees you anyways

[mint light]

not 2 shot as well

[glacial shard]

stealth bonus, back of the head charged

with x6 damage buff

[mint light]

try it

[lofty jacinth]

Triple Punch Giants can do a whole team wipe if unlucky

[wispy bluff]

Someone pull out a calculator

[normal lake]

I fear no man but giant chargers are fucking terrifying

[mint light]

But is it enough to offset the 21 hits you need without the syringes???

[lofty jacinth]

God no.... they naturally punch 3 times

[glacial shard]

do I have to jump?

[coarse grail]

5.5 * 2 * 1.5 * 2 * 3 = 99

[lofty jacinth]

nah

You'll reach

[coarse grail]

I believe thats everything

[mint light]

If you wanna make sure

[glacial shard]

how much is giant HP?

[coarse grail]

knife base * sleep multi * head multi * back damage * syringe multi

[sharp siren]

120

[mint light]

Rip

[normal lake]

ive had full team wipes happen from giant chargers even with good health condition just because they are walking nerfs to my sanity

[wispy bluff]

Exactly 99 damage

[lofty jacinth]

Don't knife also got bonus precision damage multi?

[wispy bluff]

Big oof

[lofty jacinth]

like 1.3?

[normal lake]

knife aint a giant killer

[glacial shard]

Pretty sure I seen a clip of it happening, did they nerf the knife or buff the giant?

[lofty jacinth]

Ye

[normal lake]

tf you all debating the ability of it to kill a giant

[coarse grail]

wait true?

[mint light]

neither

[coarse grail]

charged precision multi 1.5

[sharp siren]

My guy

[normal lake]

kill strikers and shooters with it like its intended

[lofty jacinth]

oh wait

[glacial shard]

I seen it happen

not ingame

[sharp siren]

you talking like you know the game inside out

[lofty jacinth]

Giants got negliant head dmg multi iirc

[coarse grail]

Would give it one shot damage

right?

[sharp siren]

meanwhile you dont even know where your standing half the time!

[mint light]

Yea cif someone is stacking mêlee boosters to meme + syringes etc etc

it is not happening

[glacial shard]

What if I have the bots on standby to shank it?

[wispy bluff]

They will help, yeah

[sharp siren]

wait for them to get close to the giant

theres still a chance one of them will shoot

[wispy bluff]

But still... Daggering giants is a meme.

[lofty jacinth]

Most likely to get killed but a brave attempt

Bat is a better alternative thanks to stagger yes?

Send the Sleepers to jail

[sharp siren]

hammer or spear

just easier

[lofty jacinth]

Tru

[normal lake]

5.5 base damage, 3x occi, 3x syringe damage, precision 1.5x, sleeping 2x. am i doing something wrong cus that comes out to 148 for a occi hit on a giant with knife using the syringe

[lofty jacinth]

But my bonk stick

[sharp siren]

bat and knife its for smalls

bat mroe for big shooters hybrids

[wicked solstice]

bat is for bigs

[lofty jacinth]

Bats really good stagger weapon also stunlock the sleepers

[sharp siren]

i find more consistent stagger for big variants of shooters

[gusty burrow]

lemme just syringe every time I want to solo a giant real quick

[sharp siren]

fr fr

[lofty jacinth]

IF the game is even generous to give a syringe of the gods

[sharp siren]

new tool: drug making kit

shit out a yellow/red serynge every now and then

[coarse grail]

yeah I missed the knife prec multi before so 99 *1.5 gives you that

[glacial shard]

Jesse, we need to cook meth

[normal lake]

i mean its just a thought but am i fucking up somewhere or is one of my numers

[coarse grail]

it seems right to me

[lofty jacinth]

materials needed to make syringe: Sleeper blood

[normal lake]

okay yeah so it does one shot with perfect conditions

but its so unreliable to get those conditions that it basically doesnt matter

@glacial shardatleast your not crazy

[glacial shard]

hmm?

what you mean?

[normal lake]

im not gonna bother scrolling up

im to tired for this math shit

[true pilot]

gtfo chat became math chat?

[glacial shard]

let me bring up the clip of the guy meleeing a giant with a knife

[true pilot]

who the fuck

[wispy bluff]

Always was

[sharp siren]

badger clip

badger clip

[true pilot]

melees a giant with a knife

[normal lake]

at this point im just tryna distract myself from my coding work

[true pilot]

like

how many hits does it take to knife a giant?

like 20 atleast?

[wispy bluff]

Probably

[normal lake]

1 apparently with perfect conditions

[true pilot]

Wdym

how

do we count in boosters?

[normal lake]

this unless i missed a number somewhere

or added one that shouldnt be there

[true pilot]

…

[torpid rose]

https://youtu.be/trNCJMJSg0s?feature=shared

[true pilot]

what level

has giant strokers

and yellow syringes

i wanna test it

[normal lake]

r7c3

[glacial shard]

https://youtu.be/2hpHjx9VmZw?si=hPWCNIQOiHD-MWhK
at 01:04

[normal lake]

very easy to test on that level

[true pilot]

how far in?

[queen galleon]

i wish i had 3 friends on discord

[normal lake]

r7c3 spawns syringes first room

and giants are fucking everywhere

[true pilot]

great

i shall test it

rn

[normal lake]

tell me your results

[true pilot]

i can stream on discord if you want

[normal lake]

absolutely not

[true pilot]

Kay

[normal lake]

im suffering brainrot rn

[true pilot]

dont

[normal lake]

last thing i need is more stimulation

[normal lake]

that delay hit explains a lot

had no clue that was a thing

[glacial shard]

hmm?

[normal lake]

and i use knife all the time

altho that mf is cracked out there mind if they think using a knife on chargers is viable

[true pilot]

wait i just realised

i need to have the giant sleeping

when i hit it

[normal lake]

yeah thats a crucial part

[true pilot]

god thats not gonna be fun

cause if i jump into it its fucked

if i jump at it its fucked

if i sprint at it its fucked

[normal lake]

you can jump without waking it up

just make sure not to touch its hitbox

[true pilot]

okay

this is gonna be tricky for sure

i guess if i make it tilt its head back

by shining a light on it

then jump up

i might be able to hit it... unless funky hitboxes

[glacial shard]

but does the math add up?

if the attack breaks the head, bots could finish it off

[true pilot]

wont kill a hybrid right?

[tall hawk]

hybrids have a bigger occi multi

[glacial shard]

"Using an IIx syringe allows you to kill any giant enemy with one fully charged hit to the back of the head with any melee, except for the Kovac Peacekeeper Bat (or the Mastaba Fixed Blade Knife if they are awake). Player health will appear yellow for the duration of the syringe's effects."

[true pilot]

ill try it on a hybrid then

since it should be easier

[glacial shard]

so by this theory, it can do it if it hits the back of the head while asleep

[coarse grail]

Hybrid should be fine, its got more hp but its a bigger headshot multi

[true pilot]

i just messed up a giant kill

so its not easy

[normal lake]

hitting back of head on a hybrid with a knife would be way harder imo

[true pilot]

a sleeping one?

they are crouched down

[normal lake]

yeah

[true pilot]

i feel like it be easier

[glacial shard]

don't giants bow their heads while asleep?

[normal lake]

yeah there head is kinda crouched into there body a bit

[true pilot]

wait

if i c-foam tripmine one?

will it still count as sleeping?

[normal lake]

pretty sure it counts as asleep

if you cfoam it then leave it without hitting it

it wont wake up after it unfoams

[glacial shard]

so Cfoam a giant, while it pulses?

pop syringe and hit the head?

[true pilot]

uhh that would still be hard to hit

[normal lake]

id still just run hammer

[true pilot]

ill try to foam hybrid

im doing this just for science

[normal lake]

if your in a level with a bunch of sleeping giants

just do hammer

or spear

[glacial shard]

pulsing means still asleep?

[normal lake]

yes

awake enemies fight back

that bitch will make it very clear he is awake

[glacial shard]

can I stand up while he pulses?

I am thinking pop syringe and uncrouch to reach the back of the head

[coarse grail]

just creep right up behind him and stand up, wait for him to chill

then jump and stab

or walk up and jump when he is chilling

[true pilot]

so you cannot do this to hybrids

their head is too far ahead

[coarse grail]

don't they put their head back when they glow?

[true pilot]

i tried it

but its still to far ahead

its not even in range of knife

[coarse grail]

you'll have to jump onto it then

and land with your knife in its head

[true pilot]

oh my fuckin god

not a single syringe

just foam mines

[normal lake]

9 hours of work finally done aight boys im out im going to fucking pass out

[true pilot]

you can do it

i just did it

it oneshots

@normal lake

[normal lake]

gamer

[true pilot]

the funny thing is

i foamed it

run to get the syringe

i got to the guy, used the syringe and he just unfoamed

throbbing

but i got it

he quieted down before the syringe run out

also it only takes like 7 hits to a hybrids head to knife it

ill try to count it now

a sleeping one ofc

its exactly 10 hits to the head

[normal lake]

genuinely ddnt think itt was doable

120 hp vs 5.5 damage

anyways i snooze

[true pilot]

damn its not really hard to melee awoken hybrids with a knife

as long as you wanna sacrifice 60 health

its not that hard

[visual lily]

@hollow quarry for r8 who will be working on it? The entirety of the gtfo team or a handful of devs?

[sharp owl]

can we have an f level or 2 e levels thx

[analog flicker]

I'm thinking more about mag size/dmg

Smg also has 50 round mag / 1.98 dmg which makes them similar now

Outside of range for the most part

[wispy bluff]

Pretty much, but it stays for longer and you don't care for ADS

Just a fuck off gun your spray in general direction of the offenders

[analog flicker]

Negligible imo. Both guns can just be hipfired in general direction of enemies

[wispy bluff]

Also I think it fires faster

[analog flicker]

It does

[upbeat sail]

did they make the burst cannon suck less

[analog flicker]

I'd have to fuck around with that

[analog flicker]

22 dmg

[wispy bluff]

Yes, albeit not by much.

Recoil still there.

Allegedly you can counter it with crouching.

[upbeat sail]

will it at least kill stuff if you full dive your mouse down on high sensitivity

[analog flicker]

Basically the same as previous burst cannon. Idk what breakpoint it hits with 22

Unless 4 body 1 head on a giant to the front

[wispy bluff]

112 dmg total

Doesn't matter

Just allows mains to waste less ammo to finish the guy

[analog flicker]

121

Shit nvm

Forgot precision

[wispy bluff]

Exactly

[gusty burrow]

It went from not killing a striker in one bullet to killing a striker in one bullet, literally the biggest breakpoint in the game

[analog flicker]

I'm trying to think of what the extra 2 damage does

I know the 20 one

[wispy bluff]

Nothing, just saves ammo.

[gusty burrow]

ah fair, it kills pmom in one less burst

mom in like 2 less bullets

[analog flicker]

I was gonna say client thing

But iirc that was tested

[gusty burrow]

Technically it can one burst hybrid/giant shooter now

[analog flicker]

Clients do get advantage but not was initially thought

[analog flicker]

I thought about calculating it. But probably

[upbeat sail]

looks bigger on the stat sheet

[gusty burrow]

That damage per clip stats going willllddddd

[wispy bluff]

They literally just kinda brought It back... Only recoil is still there.

[analog flicker]

Eh.

[gusty burrow]

And ammo nerf

[upbeat sail]

will it at least function for tank killing now

[wispy bluff]

It's very high maintenance. I think sniper is still better.

[analog flicker]

It was even before the buff

Sniper isn't as flexible imo

[upbeat sail]

it felt worse for it then every single shotgun

[junior latch]

hybrids/chickens die in 4 hs + 1 bs now
scout can be backshot
c scout die in 3 front bullets again
slightly more cracked vs bosses

[junior latch]

its not rn lol

burst cannon is easily S+ tier

[upbeat sail]

and sniper kinda sucks for tank killing unless your cheesing it, it takes forever

[analog flicker]

Sniper is better off for giants. But it's kinda just a bonus for tanks if they're also in the level

[upbeat sail]

I unironically find the machinegun faster for killing them

[wispy bluff]

I assume coming from assumption that the user manages to reliably get 5 kills per burst? Or like 4 at least?

[analog flicker]

I wouldn't take Sniper exclusively for tanks

[junior latch]

2

[mint light]

Currently I wouldn't take sniper.

full stop

[true pilot]

why?

[upbeat sail]

scattergun

[true pilot]

I suppose

im thinking of taking sniper for R6D1

cause ||kraken||

[upbeat sail]

that is probably the one good spot for it

[coarse grail]

I've found precision rifle kinda fun for that level

[true pilot]

And it takes forever without it

[mint light]

cause there are other weapons that work better

[vestal crystal]

if you're using scattergun to do what you want to do with sniper, scattergun just does it worse

[upbeat sail]

because I had to do that with a team of 4 machinegunners and it took forever

[true pilot]

i used pr for it on my previous runs

[upbeat sail]

[coarse grail]

Its not great for the || kraken || but does a lot on the rest of the level

[severe skiff]

Kraken melee only

[upbeat sail]

I still dont like the PR

[true pilot]

yeah its decent in fog skip, but i was hoping it would be better for ||kraken, it takes like 3/4 of its ammo pool to destroy a tumor||

and sniper takes like 3 mags… which i guess is also 3/4 of its ammo pool

i might just take HAR or arbalest instead

or even scatergun

and hope my team can deal with it

[wispy bluff]

So:
It's a sniper rifle that trades ability to reliably delete bigs in one precise click...
...for ability to sometimes delete a couple smalls as well if situation calls for it?

[upbeat sail]

dont the damage falloff makes it take forever

[junior latch]

anything bar sniper/prec rifle is kinda meh/bad for kraken

[wispy bluff]

Is that a fair assessment?

[junior latch]

it also absolutely fucks bosses

[true pilot]

well i plan to have the rest of my team do it

[junior latch]

it does more than 50% more dmg per shot on a boss

and does 33% more shots per magazine

:>

[upbeat sail]

oh the auto turret starts with 500 again

[wispy bluff]

So... 15 bullets sniper time?

Yep

[true pilot]

also doesnt HAR have a falloff start at like 20 meters which in most cases should be enough?

[upbeat sail]

no

:)

well no as in its not enough

[true pilot]

really? The tumors are that far away? Guess im just bad at assessing distance

i thought all other than the couple ones super high up

[jade iron]

12

[true pilot]

would be close enough to deal any damage

[true pilot]

huh then yeah not enough i guess

[jade iron]

having killed kraken with har + hel gun before, would not recommend

[coarse grail]

I was feeling falloff with prec rifle because I wasn't even trying to stay close to it 😅

[junior latch]

no

[coarse grail]

didn't realise that actually had pretty notable falloff compared to sniper

[junior latch]

even sniper gets falloff in kraken fight btw

so dont recommend it

with small range guns

[wispy bluff]

Nerf BC again?

[true pilot]

i tried to get as close as i could most of the time, but it still took forever

[true pilot]

wtf

[junior latch]

yes

[wispy bluff]

RIP.

[true pilot]

sniper has like 60 meters before dropoff doesnt it?

[coarse grail]

I think its 50-100

[wicked solstice]

60

[jade iron]

I guess devs are committed to the whole "nerf cracked gun with usability nerfs" thing

[grizzled bison]

the burst cannon nerf...

[wispy bluff]

I mean... Kinda fair, right?

You get power, but you have to work for it

[jade iron]

60 yea

[gusty burrow]

!wiki Damage Falloff

[crude verge]

https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Damage_Falloff

[glacial shard]

Hatchet got left behind by bots

had to go get the baby myself

[gusty burrow]

I gotchu

[glacial shard]

bots put down the baby and fight

that's why he lagged behind

[wispy bluff]

Yes.

Bots will not hold the objective item if there are enemies to fight.

[wicked solstice]

No they will as long as it’s picked up beforehand

[mint light]

Ah yes the baby from R2E1.

[wispy bluff]

Which is why they are dogsh*t for any mission where you have to carry 2+ objectives at once while under error alarm.

[glacial shard]

R3A1

[mint light]

Alarm on is everything on the ground

[wicked solstice]

Unfortunately Neonate doesn’t work

[mint light]

yeah but you go grab it in R2E1

[glacial shard]

oh

[mint light]

warden doesn't have those just lying around

[wicked solstice]

R7A1 begs to differ

[glacial shard]

so why do we resurrect a baby?

[mint light]

Yeah Icwas just thinking bout that

[wispy bluff]

Lore. It's a clone.

[mint light]

to make a Unit

[wispy bluff]

Artifical humanoid, to be precise.

[mint light]

you'll do other stuff to it

[wispy bluff]

Home grown soldiers, no socialisation needed.

[wicked solstice]

It’s schaeffers kid

That’s why R7D1 is so buggy

Because schaeffer put a trojan in him and he infected the whole level

[mint light]

Nah an explanation could be warden has acces to R2E1 zone now that we got there

[vestal crystal]

how will Hatchet share the clear screen shot to his friends now 😦 😭

[glacial shard]

no no, he is alive

[wicked solstice]

i like my explanation more

[sharp owl]

the latest and greatest "this level is buggy for lore reasons"

[glacial shard]

he just lagged a bit behind so we went back to get him

he had the baby

[mint light]

OR R5E1 has a couple neonates

[vestal crystal]

oh phew 😌

[mint light]

thought bout that?

[wicked solstice]

Yeah I did

[mint light]

🧐

[wicked solstice]

Don’t see any children joining Kovac

XD

[mint light]

Make it official in Occlusion

[wicked solstice]

honestly my best bet is DX

[mint light]

Still got to find time to finish D1 and D2 tho.

[wicked solstice]

E2 got something else coming :3

[mint light]

You have not even released E1 m8!

D1 and D2 tho. they fun.

[wicked solstice]

I meant lorewise

:)

[mint light]

aaah

ok

well will keep an eye out

[hollow quarry]

Some have moved on to the next project while others go a bit back and fourth

[sharp owl]

Got weird bug where my screen become purple after killing sleeper..

[analog flicker]

So Calle. Cosmetically changing guns designs but they still function the same. Would be allowed I imagine

[analog flicker]

Void bug from the liquid splatter on visor effects

It should dissipate after some time.

[sharp owl]

Well.. theres to many sleepers in the expedition... the purple become more spread everytime i killl them🤣

[hoary quartz]

What I would do to have bots prioritize Fog Repellers higher than lock melters.

[rose nova]

10c really woke up and said 'today i feel based'

and was right

[wispy bluff]

Probably install some mods or even create one yourself.

Ideally though - you should just find people instead.

[rose nova]

actually im scared of the burst cannon buff

why is it 22

[true pilot]

slendi

they made many boxes inaceesible

missions like R1B1 and R1C2 can be unbeatable

[rose nova]

ah

im just wakin up

ok nevermind im goin back to bed

10c why u do this to me qwq

[visual lily]

So its going to be the small band and some other will step now and then i imagine for this and that

[glacial shard]

didn't find one syringe in R3A1

but did have plenty ammo

turned last alarm door into D day for sleepers

1 burst turret chewed them on a long hallway

[true pilot]

syringes in R3A1 are on shelves i think and not in lockers

[rose nova]

not always

theres some runs i havent seen em

[glacial shard]

turret went ballistic on their ass

had 2 spares in case it ran out

[latent palm]

you mean to tell me

[glacial shard]

2 more burst turrets

[latent palm]

you brought 3 sentries

[glacial shard]

yeah

[latent palm]

checks out

[glacial shard]

did I deal well with a room with 4 giants?

set up a turret to face 2 of them and shot the other 2

room had also a scout but managed to kill it first

[mint light]

you did good

[glacial shard]

nothing of importance other than artifacts

but if I went loud later they could have bitten me in the ass later

with small strikers in tow

[mint light]

again: you can go loud whenever you want.

[remote rivet]

if you have ammo there is nothing stopping you from going loud

[mint light]

Chances are you'll finish R3 before R2

[remote rivet]

my favorite reasoning

if i have at least 30% in my main and 50% in my special

i can go rambo on they asses

[glacial shard]

currently at the gym, will play more when I get home

[mint light]

R3 will be easier as a whole than the last 2 R2 missions. the choice will be yours

[warped dune]

R3A2 was hell yesterday

Literally almost impossible

[glacial shard]

isn't R2D2 a reactor loud only defense mission?

[mint light]

lel

You got a long way

[mint light]

It's a reactor yes

R2E1 is harder tho

[vestal crystal]

There are zones in r2d2 you are meant to stealth but the reactor waves are loud yeah

[mint light]

probably did the wrong order of cells btw then

[mint light]

fast stealth

which he kinda despises

[remote rivet]

Yep it takes a while to figure out

[vestal crystal]

He did not like black dragon running into rooms hammering everything and waking things up

[mint light]

3 doors... different elevations....

[vestal crystal]

🥴

[mint light]

I know well on R2D2 he will adapt or ragequit

[remote rivet]

Took us a minute to figure out that some doors were easier with partial fog

[mint light]

Ah and a free cell to see what the fog does

[remote rivet]

Otherwise we just didn’t give a shit and did them in reverse because fuck that

Fog isn’t that bad anyways

[mint light]

I mean yeah that way. you kinda make it worse for yourself

[wispy bluff]

Even I was ready to give up on that level. Average lfg are just not ready for it.

[mint light]

Oh well

[mint light]

Dunno first tried it with 2 full blind and me only having done OG once

[wispy bluff]

Got it on 3rd attempt me thinks. Couple of close calls, was sniping the horde with PR from a vantage point like my life was depending on it.

I hate when the game actually forces me to focus...

[mint light]

then again had to redo 6 tries to get a friend and another new player through it. so I guess team depends

[remote rivet]

honestly teaching people the game is fun

sometimes i go to lfg-beginners just to do that

[little ridge]

no, no it's not

[remote rivet]

okay it's fun if they LISTEN to you

[mint light]

Oh go back to sleep you old grumpy italian

latvian!!

I meant latvian

sorry

[remote rivet]

honestly as long as they don't insist on going knife it's fun

when new players go knife it's hell

[little ridge]

it usually ends up with 1 guy giving a shit and the other 2 that are like "I just wanna bangbang monsters, duuuuude"

[remote rivet]

i let them bangbang and suffer the consequences

[little ridge]

or 1 of them teaching wrong shit

[remote rivet]

how bad can it be

[little ridge]

Because ThEy DiD ThE MaP BeFoRe

[remote rivet]

wrong shit = death

[little ridge]

had that on fucking r6d3 and wanted to shoot myself

he fucked up the room because of desync (I'm inclined to believe him)

and he went fully "I'm okay with helping people buuuuut"

It's just fucking annoying

[remote rivet]

grumpy was indeed a correct assumption n

i get that tho

[little ridge]

😆

[remote rivet]

i usually just teach on new levels lmao, make sure people know how to silent clear, do agressive stealth, and setup for alarms

[pine root]

R7e1

[remote rivet]

occasionally i'll take lead and have the students try to keep up with me

[pine root]

Learn by doing

[vast heath]

im just mad i failed my first run at the last objective

[remote rivet]

get used to it my friend

faliure is the way we learn

[vast heath]

yep stay far far away from scouts

[little ridge]

what map, I'm curious?

[remote rivet]

no, actually

what level was it?

most times you want to stealth kill scouts

[vast heath]

r1a1 i tried to solo with bots

[remote rivet]

first time player i assume

scouts are hard to deal with for new players so i get that 100%

[vast heath]

yeah new player only thing i knew at first was crouch almost everywhere, dont move when anything lights up

[remote rivet]

yep scouts throw a curveball to that lmao

[mint light]

Actually go at them. learn to bonk em with your hammer. this will be a NEEDED skill later

[remote rivet]

don't touch the spaghetti fuckers

[mint light]

invest now

[remote rivet]

invest in agressive scout murder

fuckem

learn to run at the fuckers through the tendrils

in the time it takes them to pull in, you CAN murder them

[mint light]

absolutely

[remote rivet]

they're only scary if you don't have a backup plan tbh

[mint light]

It is needed. don't be THAT guy who can't kill the scout

[vast heath]

alright ill give it a try next time

[remote rivet]

for this reason, never go bat or knife

as, against scouts, you are, mostly, fucked.

[tall patrol]

you can pry the bat from my cold dead hands

[remote rivet]

especially if you're a new player

[remote rivet]

Yes, same, but it fucked me earlygame

[mint light]

Try till you succeed on a regular base. you will be sooo happy later on

[remote rivet]

if you're doing another run of R1A1, give me a ping in lfg-beginners

i can sit around and be backup to make sure you don't wipe

[serene jewel]

yo is carbine + Hel gun a good loadout for a beginner

[hollow merlin]

Hel gun needs a bit better aiming skill but otherwise yeah it’s solid

[mint light]

Carbine is meta. hel gun you'll need to learn but it's very good

[serene jewel]

I kinda want an all-rounder weapon + large killer

[vast heath]

i put a chat link in the lfg channel

[serene jewel]

yeah they feel good, just skill issue on my part for not lining up shots

[mint light]

Carbine/choke

[hollow merlin]

Large killer would be shotguns, high caliber pistol, sniper, hel rifle.

Hel gun is more of a wave clearer

[serene jewel]

hm, my second friend runs a sniper so maybe I should stick with the wave clear loadout

[remote rivet]

ah i'm in class for a bit

if you're still doing runs in a couple hours i'll pop in

[warped dune]

Didn't even know there was an order

All we knew was that when we put the cells in at the end our visibility disappeared

[mint light]

Every cell lowers fog

And the doors are on different elevation. follow that puzzle and you golden

[wispy bluff]

Rounded - yeah, carbine is king.
Large killers: shotguns, sniper rifle, recently buffed Burst Cannon.
High cal, to an extent... Takes 4 bullets for melee and 5 for ranged ones.

Fire rate on a slow side, so not optimal.

[warped dune]

Dammit
Now I feel like we only messed up because we tried to speed-run the main objective

[mint light]

For next time you see a cell gen cluster objective. It almost always lowers OR rises the fog on each cell. This is your little puzzle

[wraith marsh]

Why say shotguns are good and not high cal

[mint light]

And sometimes doing main only or PE requires different cell placement strats

But R3A2 only has main so you gucci

[junior latch]

High cal doing the exact same dmg as shotgun/choke mod

[remote rivet]

that's crazy

[wraith marsh]

If anything high cals better cuz limb breaks are easy and more ammo

[wispy bluff]

Most of them shoot faster and don't kick as much, so less risk of missing.

Only exception is pump. That thing gets points for tube size.

[wraith marsh]

Cshotty is same dps, pump is less, sawed off cant 1 mag, hel shotty is less

[little ridge]

last cell starts ||error|| so wait until you're all there

[wispy bluff]

Mains excluded - man already picked carbine for all rounding.

[wraith marsh]

Ik

[golden totem]

HEL shotgun

[warped dune]

Hmmm it had a side objective I think.

We couldn't do it because there was a constant alarm on top of the fog

[mint light]

Nope only appear from R4 onwards

So either you did not do R3A2 OR it had only main

[warped dune]

Hmmm

I don't know which we were doing then

[mint light]

If you say multiple objectives it could be R4B2

[warped dune]

Does it's flavor text talk about the generators?

Then yeah

[mint light]

Pffff don't remember those kind of stuff. I alt tab in drop

they both do ! 😂

[warped dune]

Loooool

Nice to see the Hel Autopistol got buffed
Its a great weapon

[wraith marsh]

Yeaaaaaaa

[warped dune]

Good general purpose weapon if you can't settle on anything

[wraith marsh]

Yeaaaaaaaa

[wispy bluff]

HEL shotgun sitting in the corner with rock music slowly getting louder

[warped dune]

Tried out the Hel rifle too
Practically an elephant gun with how good it is at taking out Giants

[pine root]

Chill the be a troll they have been baiting with this for a while

[wraith marsh]

I saw

[pine root]

Very funny tho

[warped dune]

I tried the hel shotgun
I really tried to like it but it's wide firing cone seems to hamper my playstyle a little

If it had a more narrow cone it might be better

[wraith marsh]

Yeaaaaaaa

[golden totem]

Yeah you need to be very aggressive with the HEL shotgun to get the most out of it

[wraith marsh]

I mean that one's actually true

[golden totem]

It's very versatile though once you get into it

Like a combat shotgun that requires more aggression but rewards more basically

[warped dune]

The precision rifle is another all-purpose weapon too

Its thermal pairs very well with the bio tracker if you have it

[wraith marsh]

YEAAAAA

[junior latch]

„All purpose“ uuhm

[golden totem]

Precision rifle is all-around garbage

[junior latch]

Nah

its fine now

[wraith marsh]

Ok but hear me out

[golden totem]

Yeah it's alright, it's not actual trash

But what it does is a hard sell

[wraith marsh]

Pr can 1 mag mom, but scatter gun cant

Take that liberals

[warped dune]

Depends on you use the precision rifle

I've gotten some very nice performances out of it

[golden totem]

Yeah it's fine, it just doesn't do anything you can't really get better out of another special weapon

It's got the thermal sight and that's basically the reason to pick it over other options

[opal thorn]

i think being able to kill 12 enemies in one magazine is pretty strong

[golden totem]

It's pretty alright, revolver is honestly better as a small killer though

[junior latch]

shadows, s-scouts
strikers/shooters are both top tier
tank killing is pretty good, so is mom killing

[golden totem]

It's good for shadows

If you bring in PR for dad/mom you're actually crazy

[junior latch]

no?

[opal thorn]

why?

[junior latch]

i think you dont know the numbers vs mom/dad

[wraith marsh]

Let them cook

[junior latch]

pops 4 tank tumors and 6 mom tumors per mag (as host)

[wispy bluff]

As a local PR slave I can confirm that it's pretty okay against bosses.

[pine root]

This is fun

[wraith marsh]

Host is old news

3 of your squad members are client

[junior latch]

yep

actually i forgot to ask/test

does client do max dmg even on their own tumors

[wraith marsh]

Their own?

Wdym

[junior latch]

otherwise it will not 1 cycle mom

as in, you shoot a tumor with PR twice

youd need to do 84,5 dmg twice

[wraith marsh]

Yes

Think about it like this
Client only has 1 check, if damage per hit exceeds tumor max hp

Nothing else matters

We tested 1 mag in game alongside working in theory

[warped dune]

Wish there was a training range so I could try out weapons without having to drop into an expedition

[pine root]

Just download cconsol

[warped dune]

?

Wdym

[pine root]

It is a mod that is pretty good for testing things

You can change guns in level spawn sleepers and such

[warped dune]

Ooooo

[wraith marsh]

I was funny, when I first told Tru about it and we went to test somethings in-game, it was the first thing we tried

It made him believe

[junior latch]

damn 1 client shooting alone?

dats pretty cracked

[wraith marsh]

The reaction was funny af

Yea eva

It's dumb af

[pine root]

Do you have it recorded

[wraith marsh]

Nah

[pine root]

Noooo

[junior latch]

shouldnt be hard to do

also @pine root whatcha doin

[wraith marsh]

You just can't miss

But with new hitbox

[pine root]

Making fun of 10cc before class

[junior latch]

so no gaming?

[pine root]

The usual

[junior latch]

shame

[wraith marsh]

It's probably only reliant on how fast you are trying to do it

[warped dune]

Still trying to find a special to pair with the Hel Autopistol

Just a general purpose set up that I can use until I figure out a better setup for a specific rundown, if we die of course that is

[junior latch]

hel pp isnt rly "general purpose"

its a maximum support power gun

you trade actual dmg vs stagger

theres some funny stuff you can do with it. Like burst cannon or scattergun, lining up smalls with the stagger then shooting them all down at once

but that trades kill potential on singular smalls for a niche funny way of killing

[knotty bobcat]

Would be neat to see how the tier lists will move alot of the guns up after this patch

[wraith marsh]

I should make a new one when I get home

[wispy bluff]

F tier should be extinct by now

[rose nova]

tierlist

dies

[knotty bobcat]

Sawed off finally not F tier?

[wraith marsh]

F tier is for auto pistol

[wispy bluff]

Never was?

It's a 30 dmg main

Dafaq do you want

[pine root]

Sawd off was good just clunky

[knotty bobcat]

I've seen 3 tier lists and all of em put sawed off at bottom

[wraith marsh]

It's pretty ok

[pine root]

It will still not be crazy high

It is niche

[hollow merlin]

Would have been funny if it could one mag a giant

[pine root]

It can

[hollow merlin]

Not from the front

[wraith marsh]

It'd be a bit higher if hel shotty didn't exist I think

[livid wraith]

People actually use the hel shotgun?

[wispy bluff]

Yes.

[hollow merlin]

It’s amazing

[wispy bluff]

It's a lovely little chunk of violence.

[livid wraith]

Huh

[wispy bluff]

So good it got hit with fire rate nerf twice now

And it probably still doesn't matter

[pine root]

Once the first one didn’t take

[warped dune]

I'm surprised that there isn't a flame thrower in this game

[livid wraith]

Whenever I use it, it feels like I'm breathing in the enemy direction somewhat violently but that's it. It can stagger sure but it needs way too many shots to kill anything.

[wraith marsh]

2

[knotty bobcat]

Devs said there won't be any Area of effect type weapons
Closest we have is penetration

[hollow merlin]

It has enough ammo where 2-3 shotting smalls is fine. Then you factor in the hel penetration and a wave becomes free food

[knotty bobcat]

What is the pen on it?
1?

[hollow merlin]

Ye

[pine root]

One but it is all it needs

[knotty bobcat]

Yeah so 2 shots to kill 2

Efficiency

[pine root]

It isn’t a spammy gun

[livid wraith]

If you're close enough to see the pores in their skin maybe.

[warped dune]

Damn
That sucks, flame throwers are narly

[rose nova]

problem is people kinda see it like the smg, ah u point at enemy they die, no this gun is made to be throwned at waves u squish many many enemies at once and u dont even need to get super close to em

[knotty bobcat]

I don't use the Hel Shotgun by principle

The 1st time I tried it out, I got my 1st game breaking bug where the game looked super wonky, the sound was ''wobbly'', and the gun just didnt shoot half the time

It's cursed. Can't use it.

[rose nova]

the spread helps hittin many enemies

[wispy bluff]

It also destroys giants

[livid wraith]

Yeah that's why it good for staggering but less good for actually killing things.

[knotty bobcat]

I like the combat shotgun alot, with my Hel Revolver

So

Hel Shotgun + Special Revolver = Exact same loadout

[rose nova]

no, two shots an enemy? point at wave?

it has 12 mag

[junior latch]

yea people use a top 3 main gun

[rose nova]

u can kill a HUGE part of the wave

[wraith marsh]

14 mag

[golden totem]

Yeah, it's actually quite good

[wraith marsh]

You rarely run out

[rose nova]

there u go

its even better

[junior latch]

it absolutely murders waves

[golden totem]

Yeah reducing the firerate isn't much a nerf unless you're kissing a giant/hybrid to kill it

[knotty bobcat]

Is there a mod that changes the ammo count to have the max be divisible by mag size?
inb4 ''that's not QoL, that's a buff''

[golden totem]

It'll take a LITTLE longer now

[rose nova]

and u usually use ur special for those

or ur team

or ur hammer

or ur bat bat based

[junior latch]

its decently noticeable as a nerf for people who played it a lot and well

its honestly a buff for beginners

they no longer blast into nothing by accident

[wraith marsh]

I haven't tried it yet

[golden totem]

Yeah it feels a little worse using it this morning, but for newbies it'll help conserve ammo

[wraith marsh]

But I don't think it'll matter

[junior latch]

i played it

you feel it

[knotty bobcat]

What was the pre-pre-nerf shot delay?

[junior latch]

but its not like "oh shit its WORSE"

[wispy bluff]

Can't wait to test

[junior latch]

check wiki chat for it

[knotty bobcat]

:)
no
just tell me

[pine root]

.21

[knotty bobcat]

Thx

[pine root]

Now it is .26

[knotty bobcat]

So
5 shots a second
To 4 shots a second
That's certainly a -nerf- but doesn't seem extremely substantial

[wispy bluff]

25% nerf

[pine root]

Combats shot gun is at .25

[wraith marsh]

It's pretty much cshotty now yea

[pine root]

So it is fine

[knotty bobcat]

I use the combat shotgun and I rarely shoot at max fire rate anyways.

[junior latch]

it makes killing big waves a bit rougher, makes giant kills a tad slower
but it is a buff vs birthed babies as the rythm is better

[knotty bobcat]

Well ''rarely''
I do it at giants when I want em dead

[junior latch]

wha

at giants, bosses. When dealing with a stacked wave

anyone got a tierlist with all guns?

[rose nova]

i had one i forgot to update with with scatter i think

hold on

[junior latch]

i have one with all main/special/melee

[livid wraith]

Tierlists are like opinions, everybody has one.

[junior latch]

https://tiermaker.com/create/gtfo-all-weapons-15796907

[rose nova]

ah

nevermind ksmdkm

[rose nova]

i made one but it was based on the fun not the utility of the weapon

[knotty bobcat]

and some are wrong 🙃

[pine root]

Yeah but most of us agree on most guns

[rose nova]

i always think thats the way to go

tierlists of just how good is this gun for me are silly

[livid wraith]

Exactly

[rose nova]

since some are too situational for em

[rose nova]

bat is based cant convince me otherwise

[sharp owl]

no you just dont wanna win

[junior latch]

theres always some variance

[knotty bobcat]

Tbh
I don't get the spear buff
Sprinting while charged, yay
But it's so slow that it doesn't really do anything

[junior latch]

but mostly for stuff that is mid tier anyway

[sharp owl]

might as well be transabled

[livid wraith]

I have both respect and a healthy dose of apprehension for bigtime bat fans.

[golden totem]

Knife enthousiasts > bat users

[pine root]

Correct the main issue with spear

Is you have to spend some much stam to use it

[knotty bobcat]

I used the bat alot starting out until I met that 1 room filled with chargers and I went back to the Sledge

[pine root]

You can’t do other things which you need to do

[wraith marsh]

Is there even an updated tier list maker yet

[junior latch]

https://tiermaker.com/create/gtfo-all-weapons-15796907
this one?

[knotty bobcat]

Quickly
Check to see if the SMG sprite is updated

[livid wraith]

I was so hyped when I saw you could run with spear now. Only to discover it's more like an enthused waddle that you have to really strain to notice,

[junior latch]

still old heavy smg one

[knotty bobcat]

[upbeat sail]

arnt they the same cropped

[wispy bluff]

Better than nothing

[pine root]

Tbh

[livid wraith]

I suppose yeah

[wispy bluff]

Spear users are usually allergic to sprint anyway

[pine root]

I would recommend not sprint with spear

Unless you have to

[knotty bobcat]

What's the reasoning behind us not being able to sprint anyhow?

[livid wraith]

Does it take the same stam as sprinting with other melee weapons?

[knotty bobcat]

Probably, yeah
Sprinting is sprinting

[pine root]

Game balance

[golden totem]

To bait noobs into using it

[knotty bobcat]

The reasoning

[wispy bluff]

They think it's too strong to be allowed to be mobile

[pine root]

Yeah for less distance

[upbeat sail]

they dont want people to use it

[wispy bluff]

Or they think extra reach is all you need

[knotty bobcat]

But
it has less breakpoints than sledge iirc
All it has over sledge is slightly faster charge and larger reach, right?
Everything else is basically the same/worse

[wraith marsh]

Let me hop on my laptop ig

[pine root]

Yeah but adding sprint tbh

[wispy bluff]

It deals 30% more headshot damage

[knotty bobcat]

Ig if you wanna squint, the Spear has a ''nicer'' hitbox

[pine root]

Just makes it a hammer clone

Like

[knotty bobcat]

Does that let you kill a Giant in less than 4 hits?

[pine root]

Pls

[junior latch]

hybrid/chicken, mom, tank (probably pmom lol)

[golden totem]

Spear headshot mult never really matters

[rose nova]

lets u do it in two i think

[pine root]

Just give it bat stam and it will be so useable

[wispy bluff]

I don't know actually... But appears to be no.

[rose nova]

but i could be wrong

[junior latch]

both hammer and spear kill giants in 3 hits lol

[livid wraith]

I think theoretically if you were to only ever hit headshots, it's just a better maul. But yeah in practice it has a niche.

[rose nova]

qwq is usable

[knotty bobcat]

Yeah I meant 3 mb

[golden totem]

For instances where you want to use the spear for the hitbox multiplier [chickens, hybrids, moms] you get screwed over by the lack of speed anyhow

[pine root]

Spear would be a good option with bat stam values

[junior latch]

eh

spear is perfectly fine for chickens/hybrids

[livid wraith]

it also staggers less per hit than the maul which gives you less of a safety net

[junior latch]

honestly 3 spear users easily melee hold r6c2 error

[knotty bobcat]

So just
Bosses.
Which are quite rare, which you would most likely just shoot them instead of spearing

[pine root]

Well bosses are better to hit with hammer

Because of the Insane stagger

The main benefit of spear is it has different patterns and ranges it can play

[knotty bobcat]

I don't think I've ever once noticed a mom stagger, but then again I just kinda run behind it and rain hellfire into it's back in blind rage

[pine root]

She has 1000 health and 1000 stagger health

But hammer full charge does 500 stagger dmg

[knotty bobcat]

I.E she can only be staggered by melee?

[junior latch]

all guns with stagger multi can

[pine root]

Or something with extra stagger muilt

[golden totem]

Ridiculous levels of autopistol will do it as well

[upbeat sail]

I think ive seen a scattergun do it

[pine root]

But hammer stagger is highest single stagger hit in the game

[upbeat sail]

just the second a mom stops moving its normally dead shortly after

[wraith marsh]

Scatter gun

[pine root]

Stagger mom matters less now with scatter

But mom can be stealthed

[upbeat sail]

even 4 people mag dumping it with autos will do it fast

[wraith marsh]

Mom stealth with 4 clients

Imagine

[pine root]

I think tank stealth might be possible again

[wraith marsh]

Maybe

[pine root]

But stupid as fucj

[knotty bobcat]

I've seen 1 sleeping tank and I instantly 180'd out of the room
Fuck that

[wraith marsh]

There's probably some play for bait melee

But tank is buggy af

[pine root]

It is like charger giant

Tbh I think we can do it

[knotty bobcat]

''No thanks, I choose life''

[wraith marsh]

You bait melee towards teammates

[pine root]

XD

[wraith marsh]

Alternate duo stagger

I hate mobile holy shit

[glacial shard]

I quit Better Bots

too bothersome to keep starting the mod manager

[copper stag]

spain people?

[wraith marsh]

Average better bots user

[glacial shard]

what? I uninstall the mod

[burnt flume]

honestly, I admire it

[glacial shard]

hmm?

I mean I would rather have the game punch me for using bots to begin with than bother myself with the mamager

[burnt flume]

uninstalling the mod because you can't be bothered to use a mod launcher

[knotty bobcat]

I wanna use Better bot
but man

The fucking aimbot the bots get, able to kill off any enemy that wakes up on frame perfect timing with 1 shot to the dome.. it's a bit much.
Wish there was a version without the combat+ increase

[burnt flume]

there was literally talk earlier

that version 0.3.0 of the mod was alright and it's only from 0.4.0 onwards where stuff got ridiculous

[knotty bobcat]

o

[glacial shard]

had a Better Bot tier bot get to literally 20% HP on a A1 mission

[knotty bobcat]

Does 0.3.0 include the ''drop item when enemy near'' ?

[burnt flume]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

no fucking idea because I don't play modded

[knotty bobcat]

That's like, the sole reason I bothered with the mod

[glacial shard]

What did my homie do to lose 80 hp?

[vernal nebula]

Played GTFO

[knotty bobcat]

I shot him with a sniper, sorry

[wispy bluff]

Got punched by giant twice.

[glacial shard]

oh yeah we had an alarm with 2-4 giants in it

probably couldn't mag dump fast enough

[wispy bluff]

I keep forgetting how much damage giants' bites do.

[glacial shard]

I personally like to use Assault Rifle/H Assault Rifle

[analog flicker]

[glacial shard]

should I give them to the bots?

[sharp owl]

Easy solution is play without bots

[glacial shard]

Vanilla Bots

[livid wraith]

How big is the reload buff on the bullpup btw?

[wispy bluff]

Machine guns only for specials

Main any rifle will do

[analog flicker]

I would like HAR more. But learning it has Bloom has deterred me from using it

[vernal nebula]

Köning PR 11 don't care about giant health

[remote rivet]

did they move HAR to special?

[glacial shard]

Veruta or Arbalist?

[analog flicker]

Yes

[knotty bobcat]

Every weapon has bloom?

[wispy bluff]

2.4 > 2.1 so about 10-15% quicker

[analog flicker]

Technically to a degree which idk the specifics on that.

[livid wraith]

Huh, not bad.

[analog flicker]

But HAR's bloom when full auto is noticeable

[livid wraith]

Still won't use it, but it's a decent buff.

[wispy bluff]

Veruta for crowd control, arbalist for damage

[glacial shard]

so uh, 2 Verutas and Bishop gets Arbalist?

[analog flicker]

Veruta can damage too lol

[wispy bluff]

Veruta is 4 and arbalist is 5

[analog flicker]

Veruta has a higher dps than arbalist

[wispy bluff]

Bots shoot all guns the same way

[wicked solstice]

veruta also fires way faster

[wispy bluff]

So fire rate doesn't matter

[wicked solstice]

no?

[livid wraith]

On paper sure, but managing that in practice is a different story.

[analog flicker]

Just hip fire it if you want easy

Efficient use though will require ads

[burnt flume]

you can feel it a lot more when there's 6 strikers within 10 metres of you

arbalest fire rate starts to feel very inadequate

[wicked solstice]

Veruta I’ll mixfire it

Hipfire but ADS for short bursts

[analog flicker]

Can't use it like before when it had faster fire rate. It struggles killing things up close as fast

[wispy bluff]

With 0 recoil it's a medium range suppression fire gun.

[analog flicker]

I love arbalist but the slower RoF killed it for me in terms of close range engagements

[burnt flume]

wait when did it get a fire rate nerf?

oh you're talking about arbalest

[analog flicker]

When it got reworked

[glacial shard]

Should I give bots Assault Rifles and 2 Verutas + 1 Arbalist?

[wraith marsh]

Can we get that guy from a few days ago to come back and tell everyone with no context they suck with autos

[analog flicker]

Burst rifle/ carbine tbh

[wispy bluff]

Yeah, that should be optimal.
Better give them Burst rifle though.

[glacial shard]

Why Carbine?

[livid wraith]

Bots do really well with burst fire weapons

[wispy bluff]

They can burst cancel.

[analog flicker]

Bots can burst cancel

[wispy bluff]

Carbine for CQC, burst rifle for mid range whiffing

[wicked solstice]

Burst cannon for funny

[glacial shard]

So Burst Rifle vs Carbine what's the difference?

[livid wraith]

Range

[wicked solstice]

Burst rifle has better range

So it’s nicer when bots shoot across the room

[analog flicker]

Burst rifle has range. Carbine dps

[wicked solstice]

I actually have one bot on shotgun

[analog flicker]

But I haven't seen bots with carbine so ye

[wicked solstice]

Because I find it helps

He only rarely shoots me

[analog flicker]

Yet****

[wicked solstice]

Like once every 10 missions

[livid wraith]

Do they actually use it properly or do they just gesture threateningly at distant enemies and waste ammo?

[wicked solstice]

Actually hackett used it pretty effectively

That happens once in a while

[glacial shard]

so 2 Burst Rifles and 2 Verutas but Bishop gets 1 Carbine and 1 Arbalist?

[wicked solstice]

But he also just pounds big guys with it

I usually run 2 verutas, 2 burst rifles, 1 hel revo, 1 shotgun. Just try it out and see what works

[glacial shard]

or give it to Hatchet? I mean Carbine

[wicked solstice]

Honestly experimenting will show you what works for you

[obtuse garnet]

is this game even working? Last 15 times ive logged on i cant find group lol

[wispy bluff]

I just give them all burst and arbalist

[glacial shard]

why?

[livid wraith]

Matchmaking doesn't work, you have to find a group here.

[obtuse garnet]

duh wtf and ive got like 3 runs unlocked, who tf wanna play /w me

[outer lantern]

Matchmaking does work, it’s just not active

[obtuse garnet]

lol

[outer lantern]

Oh great someone with 1488 in their username

[obtuse garnet]

ty my lucky nr

[wispy bluff]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[glacial shard]

so 3 Burst Rifles and 3 Arbalists?

[wispy bluff]

That's how I do it.

Works as long as level isn't bullshit.

[glacial shard]

will copy it

[obtuse garnet]

when will they activate match making then? It was when i bought the game

[livid wraith]

Can't go wrong with burst rifle and Arbalist.

[outer lantern]

lmao “activate matchmaking”

it functions as intended

Nobody uses it