gtfo-chat

[unreal crystal]

Solace

[trim heath]

it got me but we were already on the way to extraction and we had a door

[analog flicker]

Yes gerz

[unreal crystal]

Who told you crouch jumping is a thing

[pine root]

Me

[hidden path]

Yeah, I always suggest that after grabbing the last ID you just stay where you are and wait for the 6 giants

[analog flicker]

I can't remember tbh

[unreal crystal]

You know

[glacial shard]

I think wiki is lying

[unreal crystal]

That would make sense

[grim leaf]

crouch jumping lol, this is gtfo not gmod

[glacial shard]

no way strikers deal only 12 damage

[unreal crystal]

Ok well it’s not a thing

[mint light]

they do m8

[glacial shard]

how did I get zeroed in 2 seconds then?

and why can't I outrun them?

[wispy bluff]

Wrong quote. But yes, they do deal 12 damage.

[hidden path]

They do. When you get hit at 100% your health goes down to 88%

[grim leaf]

i may be new to gtfo, but 12 damage is 12 damage

[analog flicker]

That half wall I was jumping I guess doesn't have the top part that would normally block you I guess

[wispy bluff]

Just wake up one and let him kiss you

[unreal crystal]

yea

[mint light]

you can

[wispy bluff]

Giants deal 24 i think and 40 if they punch you

[unreal crystal]

Cause they don’t want people kiting

[hidden path]

Giants deal 21

[unreal crystal]

You can but you need to know what to do

[analog flicker]

But it tripped me up when I just flew through it instead of getting stuck then crouching through

[wispy bluff]

Really?

[pine root]

No let him cook

[glacial shard]

we should have infinite stamina

[pine root]

XD

[mint light]

we had

[analog flicker]

We used to.

[wispy bluff]

They used to

[mint light]

they patched stam in

[pine root]

Na it is a troll xd

[hidden path]

We had but people ruined it by kiting

[pine root]

It has to be

[glacial shard]

Devs clearly don't play their own game

[analog flicker]

They didn't like kiting.

[wispy bluff]

That's normal

Hard to play your own projects

[unreal crystal]

jish i feel like we’ve seen worse

I won’t lie

[grim leaf]

i like the game the way it is, if you cant aim and shoot well enough to kill enemies, ur gonna get hit

[analog flicker]

[wispy bluff]

But stamina was added for a reason - because people found ways to bypass levels without killing a single enemy.

[hidden path]

I think it's a matter of just getting better at the game and learning from failure

[wispy bluff]

Just max out the spawn limit and ring around the rozy or whatever the saying goes

[glacial shard]

how in the balls am I supposed to run to exfill if I got the stamina of an asthmatic?

[hidden path]

Game won't give you a free W

[wispy bluff]

Literally just shoot

[mint light]

R2C2 is 4 smalls every 40 sec. hammer em down and move on with your business. rinse and repeat. you really making a fuss for nothing

[hidden path]

Just walk

[wispy bluff]

Sleepers understand force very well

[glacial shard]

I can't shoot

[wispy bluff]

Backpedal and spray

[analog flicker]

looks at 8 hr long runs on B tier PE missions

[pine root]

@unreal crystal look at this message

It has to be

[wispy bluff]

Close doors, mine/foam them if possible.

[grim leaf]

sliding and burst sprinting apparently

[wispy bluff]

(undoable with bots)

(They will break the door before you give the command and bot actually does it)

[analog flicker]

Burst sprinting?

[unreal crystal]

I’ll wait jish

[grim leaf]

sprint, walk, sprint, walk

[analog flicker]

The hell.

[grim leaf]

im just saying what i saw in a video

[pine root]

Tbh I think this person also might be taking the worst lines

[wispy bluff]

The game gets a lot easier once you accept the fact that you can just brute force everything with guns. Find the ammo, aim well enough - and you're set to win minus freak accidents and getting ambushed

[grim leaf]

worst lines?

[glacial shard]

I am not getting those hours back

[grim leaf]

did u atleast get a booster?

[latent palm]

again today?

[wispy bluff]

What? No

[pine root]

Taking better lines(racing lines) will save more stam than sliding

[wispy bluff]

I'm done for a while unless i get really bored

[grim leaf]

it was r1a1, i took the best path

[rose nova]

slidin is fun n does save stamina

its not like vital but

eh

[wispy bluff]

I don't think i ever slid in my life minus by accident

[pine root]

Not more than taking better lines

[analog flicker]

It really just slows you stamina consumption rate by a minimal amount.

[latent palm]

ye just kidding

[rose nova]

idk how u take better lines on a fps game

[unreal crystal]

gotta take best pathing

[grim leaf]

personally, i dont have issues with getting to extraction

[analog flicker]

There's not very many cases where slide cancel sprinting would give you an advantage if your path is shit

Not to mention if you can't consistently slide cancel sprint

It isn't even really worth doing

[grim leaf]

casually walking to extraction with my combat shotty is a walk in the park~

[hidden path]

Casually crouch walking to extraction

[wispy bluff]

Imagine...

[latent palm]

go bed slendi

[glacial shard]

I need my W's

[analog flicker]

Get a raise kaiser

[latent palm]

id love to

but sadly no

[wispy bluff]

Are you still with bots or?

[grim leaf]

go to bed so we can play after i get off work in 10 ish hours

[glacial shard]

not anymore, their stupid ass made me lose r1a1

[grim leaf]

i have lost r1a1 cuz of bots before

[muted cypress]

Based on my exp from playing together, you need to lighten up a little bit
or else you gonna have a meltdown in later levels

[sharp owl]

hello chat

[latent palm]

[grim leaf]

howdy

[latent palm]

Real?

[wispy bluff]

Yeah, stopping to take htings too seriously helps in the long run.

[rose nova]

i slept enough its oki

[rose nova]

haiii

[wispy bluff]

Or else you're gonna end up a broken mess like me, with PTSD from R4-C3

[latent palm]

[glacial shard]

you were running around like a headless chicken

[grim leaf]

lastnight i was over an hour into r1b1 and died, tbf i was drunk, but atleast i got a booster

[hidden path]

Yeah, honestly never take this game too seriously, if you let it get to you you'll end up consuming frustratium

[latent palm]

checks out

[grim leaf]

it was with bots, so no one was harmed

[rose nova]

i tried to complete r1c2 for about 15 20 attempts, ur gonna fail at this game

[glacial shard]

I lost an hour

[mint light]

thats how you do it if you want to win

[wispy bluff]

I keep telling you - that's literally just how experienced vets play. They have no respect for stealth and taking it slow - because they don't need to.

[rose nova]

i lost 25 hours of bot runs that went nowhere

[analog flicker]

looks at another server where you said you didn't sleep well

[rose nova]

its ok

[muted cypress]

Yes I turned down my brain power on purpose to enjoy B tier level a bit more

[grim leaf]

win or lose, idc, i just wanna have like hundreds of hours in this game

[latent palm]

fr fr

[wispy bluff]

Doesn't sound like a reasonable objective to me, but you do you

[rose nova]

im at a point where i just lose the mission 75% times i open the game

and i still have my 300 hours and i will get to 400

its just depends on, if u like this game enough than wastin an hour doesnt hurt as much cause, it was still fun

[grim leaf]

i have been wanting to play this game ever since i saw mark play it, it has been 3-4 years since then, and i finally got the game 4 days ago, i am going to PLAY it

[hidden path]

I got like 1.8k and I feel ill

[wispy bluff]

You know what... Out of curiocity i'm gonna go and try to bot-solo R2C2, see how far i can get before i die by lack of bullets.

[rose nova]

take a nap

[rose nova]

r2c2 is not that hard with bots

bots save a lot of ammo

[wispy bluff]

You say that, but i'm not the min max king like some people here

[rose nova]

only hard thing is settin up and searchin for the ids

[wispy bluff]

Now where's that bullpup...

[grim leaf]

bulpup is koo

[rose nova]

bullpups nice

[analog flicker]

bullpup is better than what it used to be at least

[grim leaf]

rn ima keep training with carbine

[analog flicker]

still a relatively longer reload than other automatic mains

[grim leaf]

the high cal pistol is cool, been enjoying it

[analog flicker]

high cal is back to it's prime

30 damage break point

[rose nova]

im gonna pick assault rifle when i play with u

[muted cypress]

It used to have more range in its prime

[grim leaf]

:o

i mean, it still slaps

[analog flicker]

AR is still like. Mid. nothing more. nothing less.

if it's lacking. it's a player issue

[wispy bluff]

You can't believe the joy i have when shooting c-scouts

[rose nova]

why u analizin my take

on i wanna take the assault rifle

not like i dont know

[grim leaf]

can the high cal pistol one shot scouts?

[rose nova]

yeah

with a headshot

[grim leaf]

koo

[rose nova]

many guns can tbh

sniper shotgun chokemod hel rifle precision rifle...

[grim leaf]

koo

[analog flicker]

That's just AR in general. I'm not saying you shouldn't take it

[rose nova]

... ok

[analog flicker]

and well. PR can't kill Cscouts

idk if it shoots fast enough to get that 3rd shot off

but I'm pretty sure it doesn't

[little ridge]

Bullpup can kill normal scouts

if you're close enough and occiput

[analog flicker]

so can pistol

[livid gulch]

bullpup too weak

[little ridge]

bullpup is bad

I dont like Canada

[analog flicker]

that's funny considering it has the longest range of the automatic mains

[muted cypress]

bullpup is 1 more reload buff away from being usable

[little ridge]

the recoil is also very forgiving

but I assume if you dont fully hit everything from the first shot scout wakes up?

[rose nova]

i think its already usable

[little ridge]

didnt really bother with it

[rose nova]

its nice for bad people who have skill issue and cant aim... <--

[muted cypress]

there are plenty of better options out there for ppl with bad aim

[wispy bluff]

ummmmmmmm

was there always infeciton fog in C2

[grim leaf]

i can aim, but i like shotguns

[wispy bluff]

As it turns out no - i cannot solo R2C2 with bots.

[glacial shard]

I cant aim but I hate shotguns

[wispy bluff]

I didn't made it past class 2 door lmao

[rose nova]

i like em too but the rang on bullpups nice

n the dmg buff helps

[rose nova]

sads

[wispy bluff]

Bots fucking suck at CQC, last thing i saw was them trying to melee like 10 sleepers swarming them

wait, i might have a screenshot...

[muted cypress]

Not enough to justify the 2 second reload

[rose nova]

yallr really gonna force me to record a gameplay of r2c2 with bots smh

[rose nova]

id say no but, its way more usable and comfy

not pdw level of course but

hey its above assault rifle

[wispy bluff]

2s reloads are like the golden standart of gaming reload

Anything faster are quick loaders and anything slower are heavy long loaders

[little ridge]

Dont hate on me for this Artek

It's "standard"

[wispy bluff]

I know, i make that mistake every time.

[rose nova]

its ok i can never write 'surprisingly' i always write 'suprisingly'

[little ridge]

For the record I always take aeons to write "strenght"

[wispy bluff]

#gtfo-media message

[warped dune]

whats some good weapon set ups
personally i like the Bataldo and the Mastaba

[mint light]

just use the normal names: pistol, revolver etc etc

[warped dune]

oooh
ty

[rose nova]

yeh its hard to remember technical names ksmdk

n some guns use the same manufacturer

[mint light]

there are multiple mastaba's as manufacturers made multiple weaps

[little ridge]

Only weapons you are gonna use names of are Veruta/Arbalist since they're both just MG

[wispy bluff]

Not only its hard - there's like 3 of each

[rose nova]

mkdsmsk

but yeh pistol revo is a funky combo

i like it

[little ridge]

There's also a joke to be made in italian with "bataldo" as a name but it's so specific I never bothered

[warped dune]

in that case, Hel Shotgon and Revolver is what I use

[mint light]

sleep on

[rose nova]

oh

still good combo

[muted cypress]

For general purpse, carbine and Veruta MG

[mint light]

I prefer hel revo/ MG (veruta) or Carbine/ choke but I am a meta pleb according to @wispy bluff

[little ridge]

Personally I take either Carbine or PDW/PumpShotty for most things

[warped dune]

pffft

[rose nova]

my not knowin what level is this is pistol n combat shottie or somethin among those lines

[little ridge]

Combat Shotty is super nice too tbh

22-23 shells per refill 😄

[mint light]

I rarely take pump nowadays, but thats just cause choke is my fav

used to take pump and combat shotty so much tho

[warped dune]

I love the Revolver personally because it has the same feel as the destiny handcannons, which gives me a little more accuracy

[mint light]

ah and I take PR on R4E1. but just that level

[muted cypress]

I love the current pistol, but it still gets completely outclassed by the similar gun carbine

[rose nova]

similar?

[warped dune]

the pistol was too weak for me personally

[muted cypress]

Only difference is the burst...

[rose nova]

... and the ammo i would guess

[wispy bluff]

Sigh, revving up the wiki....

[muted cypress]

efficiency is rarely a topic these days

[mint light]

Lou is right tho: in a world with Carbine, why take the pistol?

[rose nova]

:[ sads

[rose nova]

cause headshots i guess

they feel nice in the pistol

[mint light]

hel revo

[rose nova]

u said in a world with carbine

[analog flicker]

helpp

[rose nova]

dont change it up now

[mint light]

hel revo is also in this world m8

open up the game

and check it out

[rose nova]

my world is made of butter idk whatchu talkin about

[warped dune]

revolvers are the best as a back up, or hell as a prefered weapon in case you dont wanna waste your primary ammo

[rose nova]

ok no hel revo is more demandin on hittin headshots
pistol is just a bit more chill

[mint light]

I don't wanna know about your kinks

[rose nova]

uwu~

[mint light]

play hel revo and just never run out of ammo EVER

[wispy bluff]

Pistol:
168 x 4.64 = 779.52 dmg total
9m fall off start

Carbine:
376 x 2.38 = 894.88 dmg total
10m fall off start

The only thing carbine loses at is x0.1 weaker precision multi but who cares

S-tier gonna be S-tierin' , who woulda tunk...

[mint light]

eh hel revo and Carbine are at the top for a reason

for primaries

watch the devs buff carbine again for R8

[wispy bluff]

I doubt it

The last patch didn't even touch it

They think its fine

And honestly i don't really care either

My job is to get F tiers out of the shitter so that i could use them unironically

[mint light]

its a joke, cause they buffed it 3 times after it being already considered very good

[wispy bluff]

Metamen will do whatever it is they do

[mint light]

exactly, so I will never deviate from hammer

[warped dune]

i was thinking about trading my hel shotgun for the Sawed off, since my special revolver is being used for general use

but im not sure

[wispy bluff]

Hm

[mint light]

play around, see what you like

[wispy bluff]

Me thinks you'll have more trouble if suddenly swamred in a tight spot

[mint light]

when you know the missions you switch it up according to the missions anyways

[wispy bluff]

Sawed off is cute and all - its basically pump action junior in main slot - but the 3 shots a mag is pretty limiting

And with a revolver of all things you're just not gonna hold a surprise wave

[analog flicker]

hel pp supremacy in every mission

[sharp owl]

yes

[wispy bluff]

So better keep that HELshot as a panic plan-B, works every time

[warped dune]

yeeeeee

[mint light]

fair

[warped dune]

i was actually surprised at how good the special revo is

[wispy bluff]

Sawed + HAR worked pretty well for me though. That one time.

[mint light]

all weapons actually work pretty well

[wispy bluff]

Sawed to nuke close range offenders, HAR for literally everything else

[grim leaf]

sounds like a bad duo for ammo pool

[wispy bluff]

Maybe. It worked though.

I should try the revolver some time again

watch me have a meltdown and bashing my head against the table because i couldn't land a headshot to save my life

[grim leaf]

hell, im one to talk, i use very ammo inefficient builds on drg

[wispy bluff]

It happens every single time

"Why did i do this?"

"I know it never works"

[modern coral]

I can pop off w/ Revo, but usually it's for one fight per level.

[grim leaf]

sometimes thats all u need

[warped dune]

my current set up is
Hel Shotty, Special Revo, Spear, and Biotracker

the only downside is having to play a game of scherades every time people ask how many enemies are on the other side of the door

[grim leaf]

my setup atm is carbine/smg and combat shotty/high cal pistol c-foam/mines knife/bat

[warped dune]

i love the tracker, I really do. and I love being the one to call out where the enemies are.
BUT
I would love the ability to tag still enemies so every time i describe the positioning people dont go "what"

[mint light]

Spear is a downside by itself already.

[warped dune]

really?

[mint light]

it got buffed last patch but it still lags behind the other melee's imo

[warped dune]

should I rock knife then?

[mint light]

Hammer

[grim leaf]

knife is good for small stuff, but spear can kill big guys

[analog flicker]

Spear is alright. it just isn't as fast the other melees and that makes it lag behind quite a bit

[mint light]

Hammer is still king and it seems to stay that way.

[analog flicker]

yep

[wispy bluff]

Knfie is ever worse

Hammer is the brainless king of melees

[analog flicker]

knife is good where it's supposed to shine

[wispy bluff]

raw 20 damage on full charge allows you to just nuke small biters without having to play around with their head hitbox

And insane stagger allows you to stunlock everything else

[analog flicker]

the problem. is giants

[grim leaf]

knife is good for room clearing, if you can get head shots, so skill level applies

[wispy bluff]

Spear is fine now, but you still sacrifice some utilities

[modern coral]

Thing is, you can just outskill knife on hammer.

[wispy bluff]

Like ability to sprint properly and ability to fight anything that doesn't have a head

[modern coral]

There are truly almost no encounters that knife helps with in vanilla.

[grim leaf]

i dont use melee for big guys anyway, so why not go for knife?

[mint light]

this 👆

[wispy bluff]

That's fine, yeah

[warped dune]

how does joining a lobby work? where do we put the code

[modern coral]

Hammer adds a single sync to larger clusters, and then you speed kill right after.

[mint light]

why go for knife if hammer becomes better when used correctly

[modern coral]

Knife doesn't even always prevent syncs.

[grim leaf]

tbf, i have never used hammer before

[wispy bluff]

What does this even mean

[mint light]

Ctrl + C it and you will see a red box appear on your ingame screen

[warped dune]

oooh

ty!

[modern coral]

Force and wait on glows 1 time.

[grim leaf]

i like bat, spear is meh, and ive been trying to get better with knife lately

[modern coral]

As opposed to never forcing glows and just rolling w/ it.

[wispy bluff]

Are you talking about the "reduced long range agro" thing?

[modern coral]

No.

[wispy bluff]

Then i have no idea

[modern coral]

I mean that if you do not sync in more packed rooms, you can get long-ranges that are not very controllable.

[lethal geyser]

Uh

U mean

Its hard to sync with knife?

[modern coral]

I mean that knife skips syncing sometimes.

[lethal geyser]

As in 2 or more ppl cant hit same time with knives or what u mean by sync?

[modern coral]

You can clear safely w/out syncing on knife depending on layout and timing.

[wispy bluff]

So you were talking about the reduced long range agro thing.

[modern coral]

No, I wasn't.

[warped dune]

hmmm it isnt working

[wispy bluff]

Im taking fucking crazy pills...

[modern coral]

I mean that you can kill enemies quickly enough that long-range aggros that aren't very reactable for hammer are quite reactable on knife.

[mint light]

you trying to join someone right???

[lethal geyser]

Should be left side

[wispy bluff]

I guess that kinda makes sense. Fair enough.

[lethal geyser]

Isnt that an up side for knives?

[warped dune]

not right now, but figured i show learn now

[modern coral]

Glow states also matter a bit less general on knife, usually if you get a long range for 2 kills, if a 3rd enemy is also glowing and is seeing you move it's bad for hammer.

Knife cares much less, you have enough time to kill both the 2nd and 3rd and possible 4th enemies.

[mint light]

well you need someones code for it first 😅

[modern coral]

It is, but it's overstated.

[warped dune]

oooooh

lol

[modern coral]

A single sync isn't a massive time investment, and there are situations where knife needs to sync regardless.

[warped dune]

can you join someone on a rundown you dont have unlocked yet?

[modern coral]

And then knife has glaring downsides which hammer doesn't.

[mint light]

Yes but not always advisable

[warped dune]

hmmm

[lethal geyser]

I mean as long as u stay patient and listen usually its possible to play on stuff u havent unlocked yet

[mint light]

It depends if they invite you willing to carry. otherwise it's gonna be a pain for you as you won't be able to follow and for them as they have to babysit a player

I mean if it's a B tier feel free to go

[analog flicker]

it's a upside that becomes more useless the better you are

[modern coral]

Carrying is also not always good for the learner, but it depends on their mindset.

[mint light]

Just don't jump into D or E blindly

[lethal geyser]

Explain kind sir

[modern coral]

If you're thinking of it as "I got this clear," while other people are handling everything on your behalf, then you are probably missing major skill-sets that those people are using to carry the run.

[analog flicker]

knife already charges fast enough/hit head. unlike beginners who move slowly for stealth. a vet would already be moving on for the next kill usually

[little ridge]

Once you know the enemy range, animation for when they wake up, the reaction time, your speed, where you can hit him and how little you need to charge, you can get away with A LOT

[modern coral]

But if you're aware of it, and you go out of your way to try to be able to do the things your carries are doing, it can arguably be a useful experience.

[analog flicker]

I've honestly only encountered very few people who have actually asked me specific questions about stealth/charge times etc

[lethal geyser]

U mean knife is really good for beginner that tries speed kill but once they understand how to speed skill hammer is actually better?

[mint light]

cause they just take the Carry and move on

[analog flicker]

this is also in the fact that some vets/experienced players do their usual stuff without explaining to newbies

[analog flicker]

it

it's a neat feature but not useful/meaningful

[little ridge]

I used to give a shit about explaning stuff and whatnot but I dont anymore, if I want to play map X, I play map X

They ask I answer, they dont, I do my job

[lethal geyser]

Oh how do u do speedkill safely? I always ended up with 20% hp everytime i tried it

[modern coral]

It and bat shortcut a lot of speed-killing that otherwise requires extensive game knowledge and experience.

[modern coral]

You have to know exactly what will wake and why, and control for that to kill as many enemies as possible in sequence.

[analog flicker]

the other is being able to move in a way to reach break points (more so for hammer)

[wispy bluff]

Things you lose when picking knife over hammer:

• range
• bodyshot damage
• stagger
• ability to fight giants
• breaking a lock requires 2 fully charged stabs

Things you gain:

• ability to kill small enemies slightly faster than Hammer
• bonus damage against sleeping enemies (doesn't actually matter, so you might as well forget about it)
• apparently reduced noise when breaking locks... an advantage that comes into play very rarely

The trade is just... Not worth it.
Its not like you become useless, but experienced Hammer users are a menace to sleeper society until (and if) they get nerfed.

[analog flicker]

slightly faster is a small way to put it considering that would be a vet using hammer at speed

[swift cipher]

• the greatly reduced stamina usage

[wispy bluff]

True, but who cares really

[mint light]

Not noticeable

[wispy bluff]

Is you max out stamina by meeleing things - i think something else might've went wrong

[swift cipher]

it's useful if you're loudly sprinting around to melee whole rooms or waves

[modern coral]

Ehhhh, it matters a lot for melee kiting.

[wispy bluff]

Ah, that thing no one but vets do?

[modern coral]

I think bat is better for its body damage, but it is an advantage.

[mint light]

We are saying hammer does this better

[swift cipher]

niche but great for that niche

[modern coral]

It just doens't matter in stealth.

[lethal geyser]

Any tips on solo ing melee on giants?

[rose nova]

bots or nothin

or solo lmao

[modern coral]

If there are two, back yourself up with guns.

[lethal geyser]

Solo melee on a giants

[modern coral]

If there's just one, hit, run, hit.

[wispy bluff]

Get behind, full charge, aim for the head.
Then full charge limbs to break them and force a stagger.
Keep doing that until it dies.

[modern coral]

You can do it in stealth, but the timings are very tight.

[lethal geyser]

Do i need to half charge it to keep the stagger

[little ridge]

With hammer, you can release slightly before the circle gets smaller

[wispy bluff]

Full charges only.

No half-assing around giants.

[lethal geyser]

Ooh

[little ridge]

no?

[modern coral]

You want to partial charge for preventing screams, maybe interspersed with melee baits.

But if you don't care, and are just beating one up, full charging and keeping distance is much safer.

[wispy bluff]

Does hammer charges slower than spear or something?

[lethal geyser]

Spear slowest

[wispy bluff]

Because that is how i do it with spear and i assume hammer just does the same

[grim leaf]

hammer and spear are same i think?

[mint light]

Not by far

[wispy bluff]

Works every time

[lethal geyser]

I feel like spear slower for some reason

[modern coral]

The issue iirc is that you can't outspace melee attacks.

I think stamina also makes Hammer less reliable.

[wispy bluff]

Huh, would you look at that

[grim leaf]

you cant sprint while charging spear, as far as i know

[wispy bluff]

You can, just slower

[true pilot]

you can

[lethal geyser]

W8 is there no blind side when giant melee?

[wispy bluff]

Well, technically can, is better said.

[true pilot]

alt R6 patch

[modern coral]

It nukes everything around itself.

[little ridge]

PBAoE

[lethal geyser]

Oof

[modern coral]

The exact hitbox is huge and wacky, generally your'e either too close or not.

[wispy bluff]

Not only that - but they don't have a wind up / telegraph animation either

The second they go into swinging animation - they are just one giant hitbox of doom

[lethal geyser]

Oh yea i feel like its always sudden

I thought it was my lag

[modern coral]

Melee baiting is even a little weird, you need to be too close and then leave that range right as they detect that they should melee.

[wispy bluff]

Unfortunately that's normal

[lethal geyser]

So spear is better than gammer for giants?

[modern coral]

Melee baiting is specifically to prevent them from screaming, though.

[wispy bluff]

A little bit, yeah

[modern coral]

In solo, yes.

[wispy bluff]

Requires less skill / effort, for certain

[modern coral]

In multiplayer, not really.

They're basically equal.

[swift cipher]

is spear faster or slower to charge enough to break a giant limb from behind?

[wispy bluff]

Most likely slower

[lethal geyser]

I joined R5C1 mission once and they ask if any of us can solo melee a giant. Seems to be a useful skill for that mission

[wispy bluff]

Its full charge only for the spear

I don't know what hammer must do to get a limb broken

[mint light]

Honestly its faster if you just gang up on a giant and clean your way through like that

[wispy bluff]

Jumping giants always > soloing them

[rose nova]

do it in team u got team for a reason ksmdkm

[swift cipher]

hammer is like 55-65% charge to limb stagger, roughly

[mint light]

And if it was for the first room: what is wrong with em !!

[little ridge]

or two man each, really

[wispy bluff]

Less risky and with proper teamwork you only need 3 people to drop one immediately

[grim leaf]

bat has more non-charge stagger than hammer

[little ridge]

two manning is super easy

[grim leaf]

bat spam stagger

[mint light]

Yes

[mint light]

Still does not come into play as the stagger will happen anyways with the hammer shows. might as well take the better damage with it

[wispy bluff]

damage, range...

[lethal geyser]

But man, who start a mission with class S alarm without any extra resources and put a lot of giants behind the door.

[wispy bluff]

Its fucking R5. Its the cursed rundown.

[mint light]

You can ignore the giants

The S scan is there for you to use your ammo. plainly and simple

[lethal geyser]

But the scans to unlock the other sec doors tho... yea it was cursed

[mint light]

Are silent yes

you can ignore the giants

[wispy bluff]

Stealth green ones, you mean?

[mint light]

yep

[lethal geyser]

Yea the scans that goes around the map

Sometimes a giant standing in it

[wispy bluff]

Happens

[grim leaf]

damn, all the yt vid ive been watching are lies apparently

[mint light]

better than a tank in it

[little ridge]

Realistically, I'd say people might argue over which rundown to start with, but I think most agree with r5 being the hardest

[mint light]

yt vids are mostly folks who played couple hours and never made it to C tier

[lethal geyser]

O which mission i can find tanks? I was pleasantly surprised with mom

[little ridge]

So it's probably better if you get more acquainted with the other rundowns before going to r5 expeditions, FYI

[mint light]

R4C1 is the first

[mint light]

R5B3 has some in sec if you want as well

[lethal geyser]

W8 R1 isnt the best rundown to start with?

[little ridge]

I think it is

[wispy bluff]

There are fair arguments for both cases

[lethal geyser]

Whats there to argue lol

[mint light]

It is

[grim leaf]

what about scaler?

[wispy bluff]

My case is that if you go for later ones and get accustomed to fresher content - then old rundowns will feel bland and boring in comparison

So eat your salad first and get the cake later

[lethal geyser]

Ok u got a point

[little ridge]

I remember someone saying they felt bad without checkpoints and those are only in r6-7, now alt r6 is back and I think it's pretty mild save for r6d3 pe

[mint light]

Scaler knows

[grim leaf]

thats who ive been watching lol

[little ridge]

It scales probably more extensively than r1 does, so r1 is still easier

[mint light]

Well if he was saying all this bout melees then there is no hope

[pulsar sigil]

guys am I crazy or is the ARE YOU A HUMAN select a CROSSWALK shit becoming really hard? What do I do if a pixel of the crosswalk is on the picutre please help

[lethal geyser]

I think R1 is relatively short

[lethal geyser]

U need to become a human first

[mint light]

short and easy. best place to start thus

[grim leaf]

ik he is a knife main, and he can clear rooms, so i am trying knife, even tho i like bat

[mint light]

Yes and he is technically correct, but the Hammer just is better. if he wants to knife away that's fine.

His team prolly has 3 Hammers or 2 hammers and 1 bat

to make up for it

[grim leaf]

i guess ill try hammer

tbf, im better with guns, so i would rather one shot one kill when i need to than risk health doing melee on 4 guys

[lethal geyser]

If u become good with melee tho u either would keep ur hp and ammo

Or you wouldnt even bother going above 20% hp unless its alarm

[glacial shard]

got the robot hand cosmetic

On R2C2

[mint light]

R2C2 done?

[glacial shard]

yeah

[mint light]

Lemme guess played with peeps this time?

[glacial shard]

yeah

[mint light]

learn from this

R2C2 is not that bad.

[glacial shard]

almost died of fog cancer

[mint light]

That's the neat part, you cant

[trim heath]

well

[outer siren]

tìm thanh niên nào ở việt nam cái

alo

[trim heath]

you can get to 1% with fog cancer then run past a spitter that you didnt see

[outer siren]

có ai không nhỉ

[mint light]

yes and the spitter will have killed you

[trim heath]

but you wouldnt have been in that position had you not been 100% fog cancer

idk the logic could go either way

the point is screw spitters

[grim leaf]

spitters are nothing if they cant hit u

[mint light]

😅

[grim leaf]

no dmg = win

[rose nova]

just never get hit

smh

[grim leaf]

exactly

[wispy bluff]

Isn't there a fog turbine somewhere in C2

[rose nova]

yes

[wispy bluff]

Perhaps thats what that one room was...

[rose nova]

i was wonderin why u didnt

picked it up

and where at 100%

[grim leaf]

if you can shoot things before they get close, and can side step to dodge, you should be fine

[wispy bluff]

I don't even do the latter

[grim leaf]

based, i like

[hollow quarry]

I actually don’t know that, need to check 🙂

[wispy bluff]

Please do. This mystery been bothering me since OG R6.

[pulsar sigil]

guys bEEF or CHICKEN

i have PUBS in my vc who LIKE chicken

[torpid rose]

also state your favorite vegetable

[smoky stump]

also GERZ OR GAZ

[earnest forge]

Chicken and spinach is what I will be eating tomorrow at lunch (indian recipe)

[pulsar sigil]

omg

why do u like chicken

ur a pub

i know u cant reload cancel hel revolver

[torpid rose]

how tall are you

how tall are you

[opal thorn]

fried garlic

[true pilot]

taller than a chicken

[torpid rose]

no state your cm

[pulsar sigil]

my mom is 4'11"

[true pilot]

4 meters 11 centimeters?

gosh your mom is tall

=)

[livid gulch]

yes and no
cause if two spitters hit you, then doesn't matter if you weren't infected if at 20%

[glacial shard]

got a storm here can't play as I am most likely gonna have a power outage

[true pilot]

this game really could use an offline mode

[glacial shard]

ah damn, it's estimated to have a full blown storm for 1 more hour

got the Kovac Pro Car vest with robotic arm today on R2C2

[true pilot]

nice

[glacial shard]

heard Professor Scaler grinded for it for months

[true pilot]

yeah

I got it as one of my first rewards

then proceeded to not use it cause puffer vest

[glacial shard]

puffer vest?

[true pilot]

a diff cosmetic

i like it a lot

[glacial shard]

Robot arm vest seems to be custom made for knife users

[sharp owl]

puffed vest

[glacial shard]

I can see the hand best with Mustaba Fixed Blade

I like Desertum skin a lot

[sharp owl]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/998351879912296500/1083639933874475048/265B65A7-80F1-4CA6-9391-5AF4B887C86F.gif

[livid gulch]

once bots got added, honestly

[glacial shard]

remembers me of Irl modern tan camos

[livid gulch]

R8 hopes
or else game may actually die at one point if API keeps shitting itselves

[glacial shard]

GTFO seems okay, isn't it peer hosted?

[sharp owl]

well u still need internet to play it

[glacial shard]

How is the GTFO playerbase?

[outer lantern]

not huge relative to something like Fortnite

but this server has 200k people in it so

[glacial shard]

that's still impressive

is it peer hosted?

[earnest forge]

It is

[glacial shard]

so it can run forever

[true pilot]

unless steam is shut down

obv

[earnest forge]

There are some server elements, meant to store players progression and to connect people together (Steam and Playfab I believe)

[glacial shard]

nothing stops steam. It makes billions a year

[true pilot]

if GTFO gets taken down from steam tho

For any reason

[earnest forge]

Once in a while we get some issues with Playfab, which is hosted by Microsoft, or Steam, and players cannot host for an hour or so, but other than that there is no downtime

[glacial shard]

is Rundown 8 last one or we will get 9?

[true pilot]

R8 is the last confirmed rundown

it is said to end the story of our squad

after that we will prolly get a pause in updates… that may or may not last till the end of time

[glacial shard]

how do I keep joining games at the end of the updates

game runs smoothly on max tho

[earnest forge]

Well, as long as someone is hosting, there should be games to run :D

[glacial shard]

Getting 100 fps

[true pilot]

Do keep in mind the content aint going nowhere

as long as you have a team to play with

or are a masochist willing to solo

[little ridge]

performance goes to shit in certain environments more than others

[true pilot]

gardens moment

[little ridge]

It's honestly boggling to see

[true pilot]

one plus of having 20 fps - it wont go lower

(unless we count in destination)

(fuck destination fps)

[ember pecan]

Hey there. My friend and I just got the game on sale and had a couple questions. Do you need a full party of 4 or is it possible to play and learn with less players? Any good advice for starting out that isn't just "this is how to do this mission"? Appreciate it and look forward to learning this game.

[true pilot]

so

you can play with bots

And you can do pretty much all missions with 2 players and 2 bots

[modern coral]

I would argue it's easiest to learn solo no bots to learn or practice specific mechanics or strategies w/out interference.

[mint light]

Experienced players can do pretty much all missions with 2 player 2 bots*

[modern coral]

It depends on if you want to make progress or are trying to get something down.

[little ridge]

Hard to learn without a video guide or someone teaching

(hard not impossible)

Play? You're fine with 2 players+2 bots

Even more fine if you want to fill the team with 2 randos from LFG

[ember pecan]

So we could complete missions but might not be learning the best strategies or gameplay

[true pilot]

yeah, but also finding your own strategies is a cool way to enjoy the game too

[little ridge]

100% by yourselves? I dont know a game where I could learn the best strategies just by myself tbh

[ember pecan]

Oh for sure. Will probably spend some time with bots and friends and then do some more public runs once I get the general feel for things and share and learn things. Seenms like a good time

I've heard the time investment for a match is long. How long on average?

[little ridge]

Depends on the map and the group

R1's longest is probably r1c2

and I guess 4 peeps that kinda know how to play decently but not what to do are probably gonna take 40-60mins

[livid mural]

hello im new

[little ridge]

Then you get people saying that they took 2 hours doing that map but they're doing something wrong

[outer lantern]

Depends on the map and how slow you go

R7c1 took my group like 2 1/2 hrs because of how gigantic it is

[little ridge]

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

That's... a very big big lot of time

"Understandable" if you retried at checkpoints a lot

[outer lantern]

We wiped once halfway through

[little ridge]

Realistically I'd say r7c1 takes between 50-80mins, less if you skip fog

and even less if you know what to do for the ||funny glp hunt||

I think only map that legit took me more than 2 hours is r5d1 extreme

(not counting times when I play with bots and leave the game running taking a pause)

really fuck that shit map

[mint light]

35 minutes m8. it ain't that big

[mint light]

this and R4E1 probably

[unkempt mirage]

hmm.. anybody use steamunlocked..?

[mint light]

Nope and you can't connect steamunlocked version with the legit one. So you can't play with anyone on this server.

[wraith marsh]

I would also not talk about that on this discord

[analog flicker]

[glacial shard]

my difficulty wall is R2D1

failed it twice in a row

"Don't worry about infection"

-proceed to wake up 3 rooms in a row with 80% infection and 20 hp tops

[grim leaf]

sounds normal

[glacial shard]

R2D1 has probably 1% completion rate

I see no way to complete it

[grim leaf]

skill issue

[glacial shard]

poisoned gas chips at the hp, then spawn 20 enemies per room

also poisoned gas

[grim leaf]

killing enemies without taking damage is a thing

poison gas or not

[glacial shard]

might be better off with bots

veterans can't or won't stealth

"It's R2, too easy"
-Team Wipe out

[grim leaf]

I'm not a vet

[glacial shard]

I don't know how to clear this level

stealth can't help with poison gas

mandatory loud gates are a stick up the ass

and ammo is scarce

[grim leaf]

tip ||get good||

or get a good team

[glacial shard]

tip, shut up if you don't have something to help me with

[rose nova]

a good tip for the level is genuinely gettin a team, out of r2 the only levels i didnt do with bots where the last three

[wraith marsh]

I love vet bias

very entertaining

[wispy bluff]

Is R2D1 the gen cluster where cells are hidden in deep caves?

[wraith marsh]

yea

[rose nova]

yes

with bots is a pain cause u cant fog dive

if u encounter a disinfect bots nab it

[wispy bluff]

Fairly certain I solod that thing.

[rose nova]

and u waste it

its possible but funky

depends on routin n stuff

[golden totem]

R2D1 is a treat

[wispy bluff]

Its mostly the zone with all the scans

I remember just doing all scans in a row, so that monsters only had one point of entry

[golden totem]

Yeah choosing what doors to open is important

I do one of the scans off the rip to curb the spawns, don't remember the door

[burnt flume]

it's mostly just order of operations

[paper willow]

any tips for R3C1?

[wispy bluff]

That was shortly after shotgun sentry buff so I brought couple of those for the test and a HEL sentry to help them. I managed to do all the scans without running out of ammo completely, but then actually opening the doors was pain because I was like on last mag and just barely scraped by the goddamn hybrids.

[burnt flume]

or being able to deal with the consequences of doing things slightly out of order and giving yourself less to work with (for r2d1)

[burnt flume]

Bring good guns, try to move fast through error section, once you've taken the sample from run as fast as you can to extract

[wispy bluff]

Still won though. I think.

[green flume]

move fast
try to ping the HSU via terminal as soon as you enter
maybe go to resource room beforehand if needed

[paper willow]

we get to the bioscan for the HSU and die every time

chargers spawn next to our outside defenders

[green flume]

The spawn is very fast
try to push and defend together

[paper willow]

alright

any guns yall recommend?

i like using the double tap rifle but i can see why it would be bad

[wicked solstice]

scp096 is truly balling

[golden totem]

HEL revolver + Arbalist is good, HEL Rifle/Gun is also a solid choice

[green flume]

Specials that could kill charger faster
like HEL rifle/gun, shotgun choke mod shotgun

[golden totem]

HEL shotgun + Veruta is what I brought in for the level and it works well, but that's with a team

[paper willow]

we bring bio cfoam shotgun and auto sentry btw

[mint light]

this is the nerfed version

[paper willow]

any of yall got thoughts on that

[golden totem]

Why an auto sentry

[paper willow]

stun

[golden totem]

I would swap to a burst sentry and have someone on the team run hel/combat shotgun to stagger

[green flume]

would not recommend auto sentry
it takes too much tools to stun ~3 per wave

[mint light]

Also foam on it's own ..... Just take mines with it

Drop the auto or the shotgun sentry

[green flume]

while other sentry could use the tool usage to kill more than 3

[timber tinsel]

@glacial shard My completion was with two others + a bot~ One person should go in with max infection resist, and that person stealths to get the cells! If no one has enough resistance, one person has to be the sacrifice, stealthing for the cells with max infection~

[paper willow]

we cfoam doors and shotgun facing the enemy side just to hold them while we get the alarm done

[golden totem]

That's not a good strategy

[paper willow]

i have seen some cool mine stuff though

[mint light]

You waste way too tool

foam + mine the door

done

[golden totem]

Yeah that's too tool inefficient compared to mine + cfoam

[paper willow]

alright

[golden totem]

And then you can put the turret where it's actually useful after the door is down

[mint light]

Also when running for extract foaming the small ladder right in front of extract scan will be hilarious

OR don't take foam AND mines and run 3 sentries

but in that case funnel your alarms

[paper willow]

alright so when we get to error alarm should we all just go in?

[grim leaf]

tip, try listening

[golden totem]

Yes

[paper willow]

ok

[golden totem]

The millisecond the error alarm starts you need to get into being FAST

[glacial shard]

you just told me to get good, that ain't a tip

[mint light]

yes find HSU as fast as possible. the Error ramps up with time

[paper willow]

yeah we just dont wanna trigger the scout with the outside chargers

[grim leaf]

I also said get a team, listen much?

[golden totem]

Blow its head apart

[paper willow]

also error alarm doesnt end right?

[golden totem]

Nope it persists to the end of the map

[paper willow]

alright thats what i thought

[glacial shard]

I lost 2 games with a team

[mint light]

Yeah might want to have someone rush shoot it

[paper willow]

what about extract alarm?

[green flume]

push and defend as a team
no need for having a defender to defend

[glacial shard]

who fucked up 3 rooms one after the other

no one can be that incompetent on purpose

[grim leaf]

get a better team, I may be new to GTFO but I'm not new to fps, hmu

[green flume]

You run, close any door behind
don't try to outshoot the wave from the HSU room to extraction

[golden totem]

You'd be surprised

[mint light]

Also don't mine the doors you close behind you

[grim leaf]

some people aren't good at fps games

[glacial shard]

I was literally waiting on a sleeper to snooze and a guy flashed it waking up 20 of them

[mint light]

You want the Error waves to get stuck on the door so eventually nothing spawns in front

[green flume]

if you try to outshoot the wave while going back to extraction
you will most likely run out of ammo

[paper willow]

should we setup by zone 17 terminal,pop the scout, and run for HSU after clearing the room from the shot?

[mint light]

well 17 or 20

[grim leaf]

I feel ya

[golden totem]

[glacial shard]

I told him, we got a lot of them and on the gate

mofo still flashes the room

[wispy bluff]

Side note: it's very annoying there's no UI indicator for flashlight.

[grim leaf]

me and my team will be playing in about 7 hours if u wanna join us

but we doing r1c1

[glacial shard]

done it

[grim leaf]

I still need to do it lol

hence why I'm gathering a team

[paper willow]

there is

its under your guns

[golden totem]

Yeah the UI for the flashlight has been in for a good bit now

[wispy bluff]

what

Dafaq

[celest pivot]

what is the long nmber everyone is putting at the end of their LFG

[wispy bluff]

Well... It's clearly fucking useless

[wraith marsh]

its the lobby code

[celest pivot]

ahhhhhhhh

[wispy bluff]

It's the lobby code to actually join their game.

[celest pivot]

thank you gamers

[rose nova]

lmao?

are u meanin what i think ur meanin

[wispy bluff]

Yes

[rose nova]

u know what i wont even ask skdmk

but yeah its under ur gun percentages

[wispy bluff]

Alredy loading in to see for myself

Because i'm unaware

[rose nova]

qwq

[wispy bluff]

There is indeed a flashlight indicator

Whole 20x20 pixels of it

[rose nova]

more than enough :3

[wispy bluff]

Half-Life 2 spoiled me forever

[rose nova]

u dont need an icon of the same dimensions as the guns

[wispy bluff]

I DO

[rose nova]

no u dont

[wispy bluff]

put the whole flashlight in there

[golden totem]

Personally, I use my eyes to check if there's a big ass cone of light in the middle of my screen

[wispy bluff]

Yeah, that's how i was doing it for last... 7 rundowns?

And in certain well-lit environments it gets hard to tell

So i have to go through OCD routine of looking at the floor and flashing my light off and off to make certain which state i'm in.

Then 30 seconds later i get paranoid and do it again.

And again.
And again.

[golden totem]

Just keep it off unless you really need it

If the room is already lit up you scarcely need the flashlight besides to close in on kills on dudes hiding in the shadows

[wispy bluff]

Mate. I'm a long range flashlight fanatic. That's how much i use it

[green flume]

that icon is just there to see if your flashlight bugged out or not

or possible desync

[golden totem]

A good long range flashlight user understands the yin yang of when to have the flashlight on and when to have it off

[green flume]

Me when R4C3 no long range flashlight:

[wispy bluff]

Dropped in into R2B2 just to test the flashlight UI.
Solo'd it while at it.

3 burst sentries are so stupid.

Got a muted+bold combo of bioscan booster out of it, nice.

[toxic yew]

Hey Im looking to play GTFO with a buddy and we're both new, what rundwn do we start with? Can beginners tart with 7? Or should they start at 1?

[modern coral]

R6 is the best start, while R1 is easiest after you get started.

[toxic yew]

Whoops just realised this is the wrong channel for this

my bad i posted it in the right place

[wispy bluff]

You should start with R1 because replaying it after R7 which has a lot of new unique content in it will feel extremely underwhelming and bland

[toxic yew]

ohhh okay

thank you!

[wispy bluff]

And R1 is just very easy in general. Except R1C1. Many new players get filtered by that one.

[toxic yew]

Welp, we're new new

So just maybe

Well i tried it when ti first came out. But havent touched it since then so im calling myself new new

cause im lost lmao

[wispy bluff]

Just do it in order of rundowns

[modern coral]

R6A1 and R6B1 are the best start imo.

[wispy bluff]

If you get hardstuck - just switch to the next one and start over

[toxic yew]

Fair

[modern coral]

After that, R6 starts to get much mroe complicated, while R1 is very simple all the way through.

R1A1 is just a somewhat mediocre introduction.

[wispy bluff]

ABCDE expedition classifications are like difficulty settings.
A = Easy
B = Normal
C = Advanced
D = Hard
E = Very Hard

[toxic yew]

Okie, gonna start with R1 and see how it goes

Thank you!!

[wispy bluff]

And then there's some variations to rundowns themselves. Rundown 5, for example, is cursed and is generally considered the hardest one.

[toxic yew]

oi

So

Should skip R5

maybe go R6 second lmao

[wispy bluff]

Not so much skip, just don't stay too long if it doesn't work out

[modern coral]

Optimal order imo:
R6 to B1
R1 to C1
R2 to B4

[wispy bluff]

Rundowns from 4 and onwards will have optional additional objectives in them.
Missions are much easier if you skip those.

[modern coral]

Those sets of levels teach you everything you need to play everything else.

[wispy bluff]

You also don't get any rewards besides braggin rights for doing optional objectives, so...

[toxic yew]

rip

Why R6 first

before R1 i mean

[wispy bluff]

Its considered the easiest one

[modern coral]

It's much friendly to start out.

[toxic yew]

ohhhh

[modern coral]

It has checkpoints, too.

[toxic yew]

Okay

yeah ill start there then

[wispy bluff]

Well, i wanred you. R1 will taste like a bag of rocks afterwards.

[toxic yew]

Lets see if we even make it back to R1 though haha

might not even make it

[wispy bluff]

That is true...

How many biomes R1 has? 1 or 2?

[modern coral]

2

[wispy bluff]

Amazing

[toxic yew]

Okay he wants to go in order so gonna start with r1

[modern coral]

Levels that introduce you to the setting and general gamplay:
R6A1
R6B1
R1A1
R1B1
R1B2
R2A1

Levels that teach you specific mechanics or object types:
R2B1
R2B2
R2B3
R2B4
R1C1

Of the levels I mentioned.

The order past that matters much less, difficulty will vary and the demands of any particular level can be very different compared to another.

You can finish R1, you can progress R2, you can start on R3, etc.

[modern coral]

Just be aware that going in order may turn into a point of frustration later. Roll with it as long as you want, of course, just letting you know.

Nothing in R3 is as hard as R2E1, and some people never end up beating R2E1.

[outer lantern]

What’s so hard about r2e1…

[azure quest]

why r1b2 is hella difficult

[vital rune]

as of today

i have FINNAALLLYY

settled my score with r6B1 solo no bots

[rose nova]

funky funky

[vital rune]

first try no checkpoints 2

[rose nova]

EYYY nice >:D

[vital rune]

thank GOD ive been waiting to crush this fucking level

i started in r6 and my ultimate goal is to be the best solo player ever

but i couldnt beat r6 b1

and now finally its done

[wispy bluff]

Many things.
Mostly: a fucking ton of monsters.

[outer lantern]

That’s like, every level though

or are the spawn rates just cranked wayyy up for that level

[wispy bluff]

Do you know what a Surge Alarm is? Wanna know?

[wispy bluff]

Its really not.
However: it is has a one-of-a-kind gimmick that every single sleeping enemy was replaced with Shooters, who have 50% more HP than biters

[azure quest]

I think what should we've done me and my friends that we try to sneak our way out bs ammo and health is pretty rare in a weird way

I found dozenssss of glow sticks and flash lighters

[outer lantern]

an alarm that surges?

[rose nova]

yeh for majority of the levels sneakins very important

saves lots of resources

[wispy bluff]

More like average.
Most level with rare exceptions provide enough ammo to gun down the whole level (assuming you hit your shots, of course).
Maybe the ammo is there - but you're just not finding it.
Hence the importance of

[azure quest]

indeed

[azure quest]

I can ping the location of the lockers and crates

????

[rose nova]

yeh!

:3

the LIST command

[azure quest]

omg!!!

[wispy bluff]

As long as they are in the same zone as the terminal.

[rose nova]

... [well u can also just ping the resource directly]

[but u get it]

[wispy bluff]

You can also QUERY resource to know how much % they have

[azure quest]

and thats why I find a lot of terminals in my way

[azure quest]

wow

[azure quest]

thats pretty informative

thanks guys!

[rose nova]

yeh :3
maybs since theres lots of doors in that level u skipped one with resources or went into a wrong one or somethin

much stuff

[azure quest]

we literally opened every single door but the one with the blue card that had a iv alarm was pretty difficult especially that we had a big shortage in resources

[rose nova]

ah qwq

opened all the doors

yeah that level just kinda forces u to find ur way

cause theres so many paths n keys

[wispy bluff]

Spoiler for a mechanic ahead:

||Most normal alarms have a pre-determined wave size of something like 15-20 monsters. Can't find the precise info - but basically its supposed to be managable. There is a cooldown between waves and next wave won't spawn until old one is dealt with (or at least most of it - unsure on details here).||

||Surge alarms, however, immediately max out the spawn cap of monsters - which is 25 - and instead of spawning them in waves - it spawns new ones as soon as spawn slots become available...
Which means: whenever you kill a sleeper - a new one immediately gets spawned somewhere to replace him.

Basically: it creates one single unending horde of enemies constantly coming your way at the same speed you keep killing them, and you can tell - once engaging such a horde you immediately notice that there just doesn't seem to be any breathing room and you can barely find a second to reload your weapons, until eventually you just get overrun unless you find a way either to stop it or to escape from it.||

[outer lantern]

Zamn.

[wispy bluff]

And R2E1 fucking loves that mechanic. I think its the first level that has it, but might be wrong. Either way its the first level where its truly noticeable.
Majority of wipes occur either within first 10 minutes on the very first scan, or at the last 10 minutes of an averagely hour-long expedition.

[sacred briar]

we love r2e1

[rose nova]

:3

[ember pecan]

How does one deal with scouts?

[wispy bluff]

What melee weapon do you have?

Generally: approach > charge > aim for the head

[rose nova]

u have three options

• u dont touch it n just evade it
• u oneshot it in the head with one of the many weapons that can [high cal sniper hel rifle shottie...]
• u give it a smack in the head with ur melee [hammer or spear, bat n knife from the back of the head]

[wispy bluff]

If Knife or Bat - get behind it for flanking damage bonus, or else you won't kill it.

Both hammer and spear don't care though - just hit the head.

If situation is dire or you just can't be bothered with meeling it - pull out a gun with large enough caliber and aim for the head.
Something like Precision Rifle and above.

[ember pecan]

I guess I just missed the head

[wispy bluff]

Yeah, that happens. Their hitbox is akward sometimes.

[rose nova]

neck hit :3

be like

pain

[sharp owl]

yes and it has 5 out of 8

[outer lantern]

I usually do the snipe from another room trick, or just hammer it to death

It’s hard to deal with the tentacles at first but you’ll learn

I once triggered a scout because there was a tentacle heading straight for me, center of screen, and I couldn’t tell that it was still moving

Most embarrassing way to wipe my team lol

[tight spire]

Hey all! I'm fairly new to the game, only done a few sessions w my mates but our timetables never align so thought I'd join the discord

[thick temple]

Halloo

[wispy bluff]

Ah right. Hello. Welcome to the "matchamaking doesn't seem to be working, but i actually want to play so here i am" club.
Don't forget to go to id:customize and make sure you have all the permissions you need.
After that - you can try LFGing.

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[rose nova]

technically it was, another thing but

who am i to say it

[gusty burrow]

I'm undecided if R3A3 or R1C1 is the better level for teaching reactors. R3A3 obviously teaches the code hunting aspect and is shorter, but I really have no idea if it's noticeably harder or not

[wraith marsh]

judging by how many ppl struggle on r1c1

I dont think it matters

[normal lake]

id say r1c1 is not good

[wraith marsh]

(difficulty wise I mean)

[normal lake]

its to hard for new players since its a very different level from everything before it and it lacks a lot of the common parts of later reactors

[gusty burrow]

Yeah R1C1 is such a huge spike for people starting in R1, but I don't know if R3A3 would be the same spike if people had to start in R3

Looting under time pressure is just so different than looting with no time pressure

[rose nova]

i thinkk r1c1 is just generally more simple n easy to understand, r3a3 throws u not only the reactor in itself but also the logs on terminals

[normal lake]

yeah r3a3 is more advanced

but thats to be expected for a r3 level if your comparing it to a r1 level

to late to redo any levels but a more complex but easier r1c1 would prob be the best medium

[modern coral]

A3 I think is more counfounding

[left epoch]

Idk who really cares about this or if this is that big of an achievement, but I just beat R3B2 with only bots on my second run of the level with no knowledge of this level. I just thought it was cool is all.

[latent palm]

Lol

50min aggressive clear on R4E1 or less time on that?

[normal lake]

Just a sign you are "gitting gud"

until you play a harder level and get your ass handed to you on a silver platter

certified gtfo experience

[latent palm]

R3B2 is a good difficulty level

Has mom and 65% of the run is spent on walking in the fog

[normal lake]

oh its that level

yuck

[latent palm]

[normal lake]

could have been a fun level

instead i spent the whole thing on 15% hp because fog turbines are for nerds

[pine root]

R6d1

Is the best reactor teaching level

Check point plus res plus length of reactor all help

[gusty burrow]

That may be hilariously true

I think I'm gonna just always recommend R6 as the starting point tbh

[rough robin]

that does not seem like a good starting point

the old rundowns would be dull by comparison

[latent palm]

True

[gusty burrow]

I love playing my game and needing to play for 40 hours just to like, see the level of content that is expected of the full release

[latent palm]

And a cool boss fight lol

[gusty burrow]

R6 was literally the 1.0 release, it is the finished, release quality game

[rough robin]

exactly

so someone playing r6 and then r1 will go "wow, this is barebones"