gtfo-chat

[peak frost]

[true pilot]

i completely forgot about how fucked up mine removal is on bots

[peak frost]

right?

I hope rundown 8 will be cracked and giga hard

I need a challange

throw mothers and tanks in A1

[mystic moss]

play true duo then 😔

[ivory sky]

r4e1 all moms up

[wicked solstice]

clearly has not played R5

[peak frost]

[true pilot]

yeah

[peak frost]

Can barely remember it

[true pilot]

r5 is funny

[peak frost]

But I cleared it

Only the ALT version tho

[true pilot]

r5 was one of the hardest rundowns

[wicked solstice]

PE?

[true pilot]

and yeah

mon in a tier?

R5 is your friend

[ivory sky]

^

[peak frost]

I thought scouts are

why are scouts friends?

[true pilot]

cause they throw parties with bots

[wicked solstice]

we already have birthers in A tier to be fair

[peak frost]

I just want to know the story behind the role

[ivory sky]

have you done r5 a2 pe?

[peak frost]

pe?

[wicked solstice]

Prisoner efficiency

[peak frost]

lemme check

[wicked solstice]

yknow the big bulkhead doors?

[peak frost]

can't remember was probably a few months ago

ye

5/5

[ivory sky]

?

[peak frost]

all 5 pe's

It's just an A mission tho

Probably did it with bots

[true pilot]

||R5A2 has a mom in overload||

[peak frost]

Oh yea I remember

But

||cfoam granade||

[ivory sky]

thats most cases

[peak frost]

The really spicy missions are those without pe

cuz then u know shit's gonna be hard anyways

[ivory sky]

??????????

ok

[peak frost]

Lik R6D4

That one was nice

||without checkpoints ||

[ivory sky]

neat

[mystic moss]

hardest mission you've done?

[peak frost]

I think R7E1 was hard

To be fair some other missions where also pretty tough but I can't really remember because it was a long time ago

I also remember some infectious fog missions but not which one they where

One had a PE

With flying dudes

And generator I think, not too sure

That one was nasty

[mint light]

hardest are probably R4E1, R4C3PE, R5E1

altho have not touched snatcher R5E1 yet

[peak frost]

Tell me why scouts are friends

They betrayed me

I wanted to stab one and it was a charger scout

I only noticed after I turned on the flashlight and stopped holding the charge button

[ivory sky]

you use spear right?

[peak frost]

Perhaps

yes

[ivory sky]

👍

[peak frost]

I like the emotes

Man now I wanna play GTFO again

Maybe I do a 2nd playthrough for story

Cuz I wanna know why someone called warden just yeets people into a deadly dungeon

[true pilot]

yeah the lore is quite far from the warden just yeeting people into a hole in the ground

[peak frost]

Or maybe I just go on youtube and read a TLDR

cuz I can't be bothered looking for all terminals and reading logs

it just takes sooooo long

I like how they did it in R7 with the audio stuff

[wicked solstice]

inb4 mid mission drop does exactly that

[peak frost]

But R1-6 basically no clue that story even existed

[true pilot]

R6 did have a focus on story

[true pilot]

well yeah but i dont give a frog about gameplay i care about l o r e

[peak frost]

Also, when will we get a marathon rundown/mission let me play a 6h mission with no checkpoints

[wispy bluff]

Just goggle "GTFO Rundown 2 Logs" and then start reading. You'll catch up in like 2 hours.

[true pilot]

there is a pinned document in GTFO lore channel which explains most things well

[peak frost]

Or a mission that is a big map with all the objectives. One is a reactor, one is a generator and so on

[true pilot]

other than alt R6 lore which i dont think it was updated with yet

[peak frost]

Giga chunk mission would be nice

I hate reading

I go for a youtube video

poor dauda doesn't deserves this

getting yeeted deeper and deeper

[true pilot]

i dont know if there are lore videos of alt

ones that actually make sense

[peak frost]

K, story is basically: corona mutated and now we all fucked

[true pilot]

yes

nam-v is covid on stereoids

[peak frost]

I only know nam-i, since I watched one piece

[analog flicker]

[true pilot]

=?

[analog flicker]

I had my last message still pre typed

[true pilot]

scatergun is the ultimate lore gun

[analog flicker]

[analog flicker]

Also Ancestor mods are recreations

[latent palm]

[analog flicker]

When I meant OG. I literally meant The original rundown files

Like Down patching

[merry pier]

Hi everyone, how do I play with a friend? We do not lower the level. When we start one by one, everything is fine. The file verification was done successfully...Tell me what you can do

[true pilot]

#how-to-matchmake you can find instructions in there

[wispy bluff]

I think they have tech issues.

[merry pier]

That's the thing, we are standing in the lobby + two bots are all ready - the key to go down after pressing it completely, nothing happens - we are also standing in the lobby

[true pilot]

oh i see, try to see if you can host and drop in yourself and if your friend can as host

to see who has the problem on their side

[distant sky]

yall who is arab here

[mint light]

@sharp owl

[lunar island]

Have a read of the "for dummies doc" in the pins of #gtfo-lore it might be exactly what you are looking for

[peak frost]

nice

[sharp owl]

Hallo

newbiee

[rose nova]

hiii

[sharp owl]

this game.....so harrrd

[rose nova]

yes :3

and its awesome

[sharp owl]

yeahh

i play with my friend.. missing 1 person

n stucck at R1B2

for...2 dayss

lol

[wispy bluff]

If you have time 4 hours from now - I could join you and assist

[rose nova]

lmao yeah thats how it usually goes startin the game fairs

[wispy bluff]

Got this night shift to finish

[shut vapor]

L night shift

[sharp owl]

Ahh nope... probably 13 hour from now i play again
. Its already 2am here...hahah

[wispy bluff]

Either way those levels are not even hard. What gets you killed?

[latent palm]

@wispy bluff

free>

REAL?

[sharp owl]

Sometime No ammo......
Mess up when stealth

[wispy bluff]

Classic

[latent palm]

happens

[sharp owl]

Kinda weird sometime sleeper from far away awake after i kill sleeper in stealth

Idk why

[shut vapor]

Consider: getting ammo

[latent palm]

they respond to other noise

even on your kills

they can sense

[sharp owl]

Soo kill when they not glowing?

[latent palm]

through line of sight ofc

[latent palm]

yes

[wispy bluff]

Use terminals to find ammo.
Git gud at stealth. That's about it. Counter-intuitively: you need to be agressive during stealth. If something wakes up - just go for it and smash its head in. And then whoever will wake up next. Keep smashing heads until its all quiet again.

[latent palm]

example A: sleeper A is 2meter close to sleeper B

A is closer to you

[shut vapor]

Line of sight

[latent palm]

which do you kill?

[sharp owl]

I see

[latent palm]

stfu brit

[wispy bluff]

But if the room wakes up proper - drop pretenses and go loud. Better than wiping.

[latent palm]

im making a education here

[shut vapor]

LoS is a myth

[remote rivet]

depends on room size

[sharp owl]

Soo..use knife or baton for fast charge?

[latent palm]

more like

time your charge

[remote rivet]

honestly, most rooms are small enough to just go London on

[true pilot]

bat for the win

[latent palm]

and hit dem heads

[latent palm]

ewww

bat player

[remote rivet]

Bat is insanely based but it's nerfs saddened me

[true pilot]

what a hater

[true pilot]

what nerfs

[remote rivet]

meanwhile, spear buffs, for no reason

[latent palm]

ewwww

[true pilot]

what a hater

[latent palm]

what a hater

[true pilot]

what a hater

[latent palm]

this is the part you go opposite

[wispy bluff]

Dafaq do you mean for no reason

[true pilot]

what a hater

[latent palm]

ewww

[true pilot]

also bat didnt get nerfed

[latent palm]

@remote rivet

[true pilot]

what a hater

[latent palm]

spear buffs

[true pilot]

spear sucked

i like that it got buffed

[latent palm]

is very much likely a change

[true pilot]

i still wont use it

[latent palm]

for once

that it could rival

hammer

just a lil bit

[remote rivet]

just a little? fucking for SURE

it's so much smoother to use now

[latent palm]

lol

2dmg light taps

[true pilot]

spear still isnt as good as hammer

[latent palm]

no stagger

[shut vapor]

Me when spear buff means you can bhop again

[latent palm]

get swarmed and see

[wicked solstice]

oh yeah

[latent palm]

shove still sucks

[wicked solstice]

the bhopping isn't movespeed restricted iirc

so uhh

do with that as you will :)

[latent palm]

it never was lol

[remote rivet]

i never have to worry about getting swarmed if i play good

[wicked solstice]

i meant like

for spear

[latent palm]

you can even bhop with cell

[wicked solstice]

because you can bhop now while charging

[latent palm]

by timing perfectly

[remote rivet]

wait you can Bhop in this game?

[wicked solstice]

and don't suffer a sprint decrease

[remote rivet]

fucking HOW

[latent palm]

and not jsut any bhop

sprint speed kind of Bhops

[shut vapor]

My favourite kind of gameplay: "frame perfect precision tech that is unusable realistically"

[thick temple]

jumping within like a couple frames from landing

[latent palm]

usable on cleared rooms and transfer stuff back lol

[shut vapor]

Be realistic, how many bhops in a row are you gonna get unless you bind jump to mouse wheel

Imagine your turbine carrier dropping and picking up the turbine repeatedly to try and get a sprint bhop but only 1

[remote rivet]

wait if you just bind jump to mousewheel and spamscroll it you'll always bhop won't you

[shut vapor]

Even that isn't consistent. Source: my csgo ability

[coarse grail]

1 if I'm lucky, then I'm doing it again

[turbid spoke]

does anyone know the website ppl use to watch their gtfo replays

[last parrot]

depends

[turbid spoke]

its not like a screen replay its like

top down of the game

but simplified

[last parrot]

what

[wispy bluff]

Map?...

[turbid spoke]

idk it like shows the map and shows where everyone went in the rundown

[shut vapor]

Like replaymod for minecraft?

[wispy bluff]

In real time or the replay?

[turbid spoke]

replay i think

its a website i believe

[wispy bluff]

Not aware

[shut vapor]

Never heard of this

[wispy bluff]

The in game map shows people in real time

[turbid spoke]

its sort of like the in game map but a replay

like the format is similar

idk i think its some obscure website maybe

[last parrot]

never heard of this

could you send an example

[wispy bluff]

Sounds like modding to me

[turbid spoke]

yea could be a mod

[sharp owl]

How about scout.. any tips to kill them easier?

[shut vapor]

Shoot them in the head

[remote rivet]

easier? use a high powered rifle

effeciently? use a spear.

[turbid spoke]

jump hit with melee

[sharp owl]

But . There sleepers in the same zone too

[shut vapor]

Better 1 room than 1 room and 1 scoutwave

[turbid spoke]

easier to deal with a cppl sleepers then like 50 sleepers

[sharp owl]

Ahh..yeah....

Hahaha

[shut vapor]

Or if you are really desperate, you can cfoam the scout

[sharp owl]

Slow their movement?

Never use foam yet

Idk what its function

[turbid spoke]

for reinforcing doors is a big function

[sharp owl]

What i know slowing enemy n fortify door

[junior latch]

LoS isnt a myth for movement/long range aggro

LoS cant be blocked by a player tho (this is a myth)

[shut vapor]

It completely freezes an enemy

[shut vapor]

The second point is what I was referring to but I didn't specify at all

[remote rivet]

wel, that's why you got guns

[junior latch]

bhopign negates slowdown, so if you manage to sprint jump before you slowdown you get full speed hops y

[junior latch]

I understood ya, just wanted to clarify for others

[junior latch]

Bat changes didnt do anything honestly

[junior latch]

Spear was absolutely garbage, litteraly trolled you n your team with no sprint (and overall meh stats)

[turbid spoke]

What changes did spear get?

[shut vapor]

you can run and charge with it

[turbid spoke]

Oh damn

[shut vapor]

but run speed is like 70%

[turbid spoke]

Guess I'm still sticking to hammer then

[shut vapor]

sorry

70% of run speed

not 70% of walk speecf

[junior latch]

slightly slower sprint speed
Higher charged precision multi
Environmental multi buff

[turbid spoke]

Is it worth using over other melees tho?

[junior latch]

its useable now for a niche, hammer obviousy is still best tho

[turbid spoke]

Ok ic

[wispy bluff]

Slightly weaker sprint.
Breaks locks better (about 60% charge).
Increased headshot damage to the point it went from 13% above hammer to 31%

[junior latch]

for killing moms, tank, slightly faster giant kills (mostly hybrids/chickens)

[spark vapor]

You can now run and charge as well

[wispy bluff]

And light taps finally deal bonus damage on head

[turbid spoke]

They should let you throw it fr

[spark vapor]

It would be too strong

[remote rivet]

i see many arguments that knife is better

or bat

but whenever i try either i have a problem with the uh

[junior latch]

Than hammer? Or spear

[true pilot]

yeah

[junior latch]

hammer is easily the best

[remote rivet]

hammer

[rose nova]

bat :D

[true pilot]

what

[rose nova]

bat mentioned

[true pilot]

like i love bat

[remote rivet]

i love bat but god, dealing with chargers is so ass

[rose nova]

slendi happy

:[

[true pilot]

but hammer beats it so much

[junior latch]

Oh i shouldve clarified on the „slightly slower sprint speed“

[remote rivet]

all high tier gameplay i see is either knife or sledge

[junior latch]

Back shot, then tap twice. Free kill

[spark vapor]

Knife exceeds at stealth
Spear exceeds at damage
Bat exceeds at 'be normal and stable option'
Hammer exceeds at...speed.

[remote rivet]

shit, they're that low after the charge?

[turbid spoke]

Isn't knife more speedy then hammer?

[remote rivet]

wait a fucking second are you the guy who plays with Scaler

[spark vapor]

Yeah, because i remember how i've started a new R6 and 'Wait i can run and charge with the spear?'

[wispy bluff]

Overall the buffs were more QoL than anything. Using spear is not just misery now - its now just simply smooth and is still competent in combat even if it relies on precision gimmicks (worthless against chargers for example).

[junior latch]

12 dmg x 2 from behind
Then 2 taps for 3 each
24 + 6 = 30

[outer lantern]

Knife is garbage

[junior latch]

No

[spark vapor]

It sort-of, but the gimmick is the stealth.

[true pilot]

knife isnt garbage

[junior latch]

Knife is king of smalls

[outer lantern]

it’s literally only good for babies

[true pilot]

rn no melee is exactly garbage

[remote rivet]

knife's goated for fastcharge

[junior latch]

Strikers, shooters ?

[turbid spoke]

You can't really kill scouts with a knife can you

[true pilot]

you can

[outer lantern]

Hammer or bat always

[true pilot]

every melee can kill scouts

[outer lantern]

spear is fun now but I don’t use it always

[remote rivet]

watched a scout get dropshotted with a knife once

fucking assasin's creed style

[spark vapor]

I don't remember exactly, but it is like
"Yeah you can onetap the scout with the knife but you have to STRICTLY hit the back of the head'
And sometimes hitbox will just say 'Nah it was just back, not the head'

[true pilot]

i still do agree that hammer is best, but i like bat a lot too, knife is fun to use and i hadnt really played with the spear much since the patch. But none of the melees are garbage thats for sure

[junior latch]

Hammer obviously Nr.1
Its the best of many things and doesnt rly have a big weakness

So the other melees need to be better at smth than hammer to shine

Knife does that heavily vs smalls, so its a strong niche that exists

Spear does vs hybrids/chickens and bosses

Bat doesnt at all (unless you count smash locks)

[true pilot]

yeah same with bat

but its not hard

[spark vapor]

While Spear is just 'HEAD IS THE HEAD'

[true pilot]

head hitboxes are pretty nice

[junior latch]

Bat has the issue that hammer staggers a fuck ton too while having better stats

Lower hammer stagger -> bat is fine

[true pilot]

s k i l l i s s u e

[true pilot]

yes i await the hammer stagger nerf

[junior latch]

Thats often a skill issue rly

[spark vapor]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[turbid spoke]

That's why I use hammer

[spark vapor]

It is not a common thing, but it happens.

[turbid spoke]

Bc I suck

[remote rivet]

honestly, it's still fun to have 4 guys just boston a fucking giant by just whacking it with a bat

we took inspiration from one of Scaler's videos and ran all stagger for a level, it was pretty funny

[junior latch]

Hammer is best

Other melees for general use:
Bat > spear >>> knife

Other melees for their niche:
Knife >>> spear >>> bat

[junior latch]

R4A3?

[remote rivet]

yep it was that one

one of my favorite ones to watch gameplay of

[junior latch]

That was me forcing it on the group

glorious hel pp action

[remote rivet]

Good man. my favorite one delivers.

[rose nova]

one day ill do 4 autopistols 4 hel auto sentries and not use special weapons at all

[true pilot]

i love 4 auto pps and 4 auto sentries on an alarm

just wall of bullets

[spark vapor]

4 shotty turrets at R1C1

[true pilot]

that

sounds like an odd idea

i guess hole in the wall

[rose nova]

i mean idk why would u

but

i guess its not that bad

[true pilot]

i dont know how effective would the sentries be even in hole in teh wall

[rose nova]

on og r1 i get it in the alt no skmdkm

[remote rivet]

eva should force scaler to play spear for a level just so he has to actually meelee combat giants for once

[junior latch]

Wonky but can work

[true pilot]

he melees giants =)

just with a knife

and thats what makes it funny

[remote rivet]

i see him just leave them for eva or amanes to deal with more often than not

[junior latch]

i didnt play R6 with the group (cuz im on vacation + studying) so he mightve played it for one level there. Kinda doubt since knife but

will see once he uploads

[remote rivet]

no eva for R6 content?

[junior latch]

not on scalers channel no

ago slots in

[remote rivet]

;-;

[turbid spoke]

Is r6 the final gtfo update btw

[junior latch]

Depending on scalers plans ill hop in again for R8

[junior latch]

Rundown 8 will come

[spark vapor]

I remember somewhere was declared that R8 will happen and then something will happen.

[junior latch]

thats gonna be the last promised one

[spark vapor]

^

I hope R8 will contain a plenty of l o r e

[junior latch]

tho we will definetly get some post rundowns patches for fixes

[junior latch]

Oh it will, its supposed to finish our groups lore

[rose nova]

7 audio logs per level ahre

[remote rivet]

god i hope we get the inner

[rose nova]

:3

[remote rivet]

i hope we get the inner SO DAMN BAD

[ivory sky]

cant wait for gtfo 2 for a new groups lore

[remote rivet]

Get The Fuck In

[rose nova]

gtfo 2 more gtfo than ever

[spark vapor]

I wonder if it will be just
Warden: You all did good but now i teleport you into Kraken's mouth

[rose nova]

:D

[remote rivet]

"ah shit they're infected? well, too bad."

[spark vapor]

I guess this will not be the case since ||HSU helps with the infection or something||

But doesn't prevent re-infection

[remote rivet]

oh we had a whole argument about this in lorechat

[spark vapor]

I remember this quote about HSU on the wiki

Or somewhere close to that

[lusty river]

Omg it's so annoying when bots heal you for 4% hp if you have some infection 💀

[rose nova]

thought bots couldnt do that

they never heal me when i have infection

[true pilot]

i think as long as they get any value from healing

so like if you have 10% infection and are missing 20% health

they will still heal you wasting a part of the medi to infection

[merry pier]

where can I contact game support? You can't play the game

[wispy bluff]

#1049599987878723635

[merry pier]

ty

[vestal anchor]

Всем привет

Нужен третий игрок, мы новички, только скачали

Кто с нами?

109775242588882255

[rose nova]

#hc-europe message ! !

[glacial shard]

Finally got the game

and waiting on people to join me

[rose nova]

noice :3

[rose nova]

just some advice for lfg stuff
always ask to not be carried, make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel

[analog flicker]

I ask of you slendi to not carry me okay. I don't want to be carried.

[rose nova]

i wont carry u

[little ridge]

The more you write that the more I'll carry people

Someone needs to balance things out

[rose nova]

:c not if i steal ur gtfo so u cant play it

[teal osprey]

the pain of wanting help with a level but being socially anxty

[rose nova]

damn ik that feel qwq

[wispy bluff]

You can do the meme thing and be the silent carry that just owns the level.

[teal osprey]

See, that requires the ability to carry. or to be good at the game.

[wispy bluff]

Just gotta load into the lobby quickly to explains yourself in the chat.

[teal osprey]

True, I'll have to try that

[sharp owl]

Dunno who thus azert guy is

[lethal harbor]

W game

[mint light]

Me neither

[sharp owl]

Yooo what is this
https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/749744562561482832

for the solo players who cant get any action

[wispy bluff]

Its a joke.

[sharp owl]

Alr, so

WHEN R8

[wispy bluff]

Come back in 3 months

I'm sure we will have news in january

[glacial shard]

what are easiest weapons for new people?

I don't like the charge time of LMG's

[wraith marsh]

if you want an mg without charge up try har

otherwise I recommend high cal or shotgun for special

[glacial shard]

Malatack?

[rose nova]

yeah combat shottie is easy to start like practicin headshots on smols, and if u miss its absolutely no problem its a two shot then, if u wanna practice more semis maybs a rifle or a pistol in main to like aim but spam if necessary

[glacial shard]

shotgun sounds good

[wraith marsh]

yea, heavy assault rifle

[wispy bluff]

Do you like assault rifles or semis

[rose nova]

theres 2 malatacks u dont have to use the ingame name for em ksks

normal assault rifle and har :b

[glacial shard]

semi's

but should mix them up

[junior latch]

The high caliber pistol is a simple good gun

only needs bodyshots

[glacial shard]

and special?

what about bots guns?

[upbeat sail]

AR and verd lmg

[grizzled bison]

You should run the double tap burst cannon on the bots

[wispy bluff]

Mains:

• Pistol, because duh. Ever seen what american cops do when in danger? Just do that, no ADS required.
• Any of the SMGs, you'll just have to accept range limitations.
• Assault Rifle or Bullpup dependings on taste. BP reloads longer, but has increased mag size, range and effectively 0 recoil when aiming down sights - its PIN POINT accurate.
• The Rifle (Drekker 556) - basically Pistol, but respec'd into medium range combat instead of close range hipfire. Comfy holosight too while at it.

Specials:

• Heavy Assault Rifle because duh.
• High Caliber Pistol - just point at enemy and click, no headshots needed.
• Choke Mod SHotgun - same shit as High Cal, only with amazing hipfire. ADS completely rudimentary.

[grizzled bison]

They're crazy with it

Artek what is this dump

[upbeat sail]

do not give them burst cannon they will shoot you with it and take 70% of your health

[grizzled bison]

A small price to pay

[glacial shard]

Should I give the bots Assault Rifle with Heavy Assault rifle and call it a day?

[wispy bluff]

Burst Rifle + Arbalist Machine Gun (Low RPM)

[rose nova]

yeh or a machinegun :]

[upbeat sail]

just give them the MG they dont have to deal with the chargeup

[glacial shard]

which mg?

[upbeat sail]

either I prefer verd

[glacial shard]

also why burst rifle?

[upbeat sail]

burst rifle is better stat wise on them but they shit themself in close combat more with it

[glacial shard]

so full auto assault rifle with mg?

[wispy bluff]

Not sure myself. They uh... They know how to burst-cancel things. They never fire in bursts. No matter what gun you give them - they shoot them in exactly the same pattern of random shots.
Basically just give them anything that has a lot of ammo so they can just provide passive supression of enemies in their line of sight. Also it reduces the possibility of them onetapping you with a shotgun blast to the spine.

[grizzled bison]

The burst cannon is a burst MG

You should try it on the bots

Preferably with the double tap rifle

And give the bots the biottacker

[upbeat sail]

yes or pdw if you dont want reload downtime

[grizzled bison]

They are mute and deaf so they need it

[upbeat sail]

but the downside to giving them pdw is that is they will waste a lot of time 1 tap firing at stuff far away

[wispy bluff]

Oh yeah, bots LOVE long range whiff shots

Another reason why you should consider giving them something with range

[sharp owl]

give them bp

[wispy bluff]

Honestly at this point - yeah, viable.

[upbeat sail]

do not do that the reload time on it makes them shit themself and try to melee a lot

[sharp owl]

perhaps they need to fix their stuff

[timber tinsel]

I stay on mute! Helps lots!

[grim leaf]

I tried the hel gun for the first time earlier, wasn't my cup of tea, but the sounds were cool

[wispy bluff]

Bots meleeings things is a whole other can of worms

[upbeat sail]

and this isnt that big of an issue in practice with the auto guns since most rooms are small anyway and they are tap firing slow enough for it to not effect ammo in a noticable way

[grim leaf]

I haven't played with other players yet, been hauling around 3 bots, still practicing so I get good enough for public play

[wispy bluff]

Fair

If you started on rundown 1 - R1C1 will be a wake up call.

[upbeat sail]

though they will struggle to kill shooters if you give close range guns

[wispy bluff]

I started giving bots Double Tap Rifle for some reasons.

Honestly they don't seem that bad with it.

Every so often i see a biter just pop out of nowhere

[grim leaf]

I've been obsessed with this game ever since I saw mark play it like 3 or 4 years ago, but I finally got it for myself :D so I've been training for hours u.u

[upbeat sail]

I tried that before it does work ok on them

[glacial shard]

posted in media

[sharp owl]

training mentally?

[wispy bluff]

The "give them biotracker" was a joke. Ignore Beep - he's one of them internet chaos demons.

There was HALF truth to it, however. Give ONE of them biotracker. Whichever one you tolerate chatting the most (for me its Hackett and his scottish sass).
The rest... A choice between sentries and mines. Never give them cfoam. If you're bringing cfoam - just use it yourself.

You unironically can just run 3 burst sentries if you want. Just place them liberally in choke points.

[grim leaf]

no, been running r1 missions over and over again

using different weapons

[glacial shard]

how do I check their bioscanner lines?

[wispy bluff]

Youtube probably. Or just experiment. I can give your a short summary.

[upbeat sail]

just give it to bishop so the slot gets filled by a player last

unless you violently hate his voice

[sharp owl]

gets boring no?

[wispy bluff]

Dauda speaks in thick african accent and is very anxious - he sounds like he's on the verge of mental breakdown. His voicelines are loud and personally i got tired of him IMMEDIATELY.

Hackett talks with scottish accent and is a sassy boy.

Bishop talks in... British, i think? He just sounds normal. His voicelines are anxious too and he's jumpy, but not to the same extent as Dauda.

[grim leaf]

not really, its exciting for me, I've been wanting to play this game for so long

[thick temple]

wow, someone who's actually just genuinely excited to be playing gtfo? what a rare sight around here

[grim leaf]

I get that feeling too

[glacial shard]

Bishop is last bot?

[wispy bluff]

Examples:
Dauda: "We're surrounded! There's too many of them!!"
Hackett: "It seems there's a party going on. I say: we skip it."
Bishop: "You fellas are about to die."

[vestal crystal]

if you can dodge a bot with burst cannon you can dodge a sleeper tongue

[grim leaf]

but yeah, like I said, I've been into this game for years, and now I finally get to play it. and it is more fun than I imagined, or could just get from watching youtube

[sharp owl]

thats fair, enjoy

[glacial shard]

so give the tracker to the bot on far right. That's Bishop?

[wispy bluff]

Yep.

Players (and bots) are always assigned same character based on their spot.

From left to right: Woods > Dauda > Hackett > Bishop

[analog flicker]

Nigerian*

[wraith marsh]

their name is also next to the [BOT] above them

[glacial shard]

so let's recap: For melee, give them Hammers

[median cedar]

Me when I got Subnautica

[grim leaf]

I dont have a full team to play with, I hope to either make my own team someday, or join a good team

[grim leaf]

nice

[upbeat sail]

give them whatever you like the look of them holding it doesnt change stats on bots

[glacial shard]

for tools give 2 burst turrets and 1 biotracker to Bishop

[wraith marsh]

hopefully you find some ppl, this games a lot of fun with a full team thats not just randoms

[glacial shard]

2 burst and 1 bio?

[analog flicker]

Iirc. What melee bots have is negligible

[glacial shard]

ah

[wispy bluff]

Even better actually: it doesn't matter

[analog flicker]

They just charge and do fixed damage

[wispy bluff]

For bots melee are just skins

They always act the same

(like hammer, i think?)

[glacial shard]

now the guns, what do I give them?

[wispy bluff]

You got it figured out

Assault Rifle + Arbalist MG is pretty much almost perfect.

[glacial shard]

Almost?

[wispy bluff]

There's some variations to mains: Burst Rifle, Bullpup, uh... Carbine.

[analog flicker]

I prefer giving them Sawed off and scatter gun.
But you're better off giving them Burst rifle/veruta

[wispy bluff]

I honestly don't know which one of them is THE Best. Its a give or take.

Just give them something to spray enemies with, that's it.

Hell - you probably can even give them Pistol these days.

[grim leaf]

so far I like the machine pistol and combat shotgun

[glacial shard]

ehh will just give them assault rifle/arbalist

[wispy bluff]

Yeah, that's fine.

[upbeat sail]

I still find it weird how even after the buff they are still eh with the heavy smg

[wispy bluff]

That range comes biting back, doesn't it

[upbeat sail]

thats the weird since since they work fine with pdw

though it might just be the reload time

[analog flicker]

[rough robin]

bot melee doesn't matter

oh someone beat me to this

heavy SMG / arbalist / bat is chad bot loadout

[wispy bluff]

Hackett doesn't look right without a dagger

It fits him perfectly

[grim leaf]

what's the arbalist again?

[wispy bluff]

Machine Gun (Low RPM)

[grim leaf]

ah ok

[rough robin]

god they need to rename those

[wispy bluff]

Its basically Heavy Assault Rifle with extra mag, longer reload and a spin-up mechanic. And slightly reduced recoil too, i think...

[rough robin]

Heavy Machine Gun and Light Machine Gun

[glacial shard]

didn't they say Heavy SMG one taps?

[wispy bluff]

No?

[glacial shard]

I mean 1 tap shooting doctrine

[wispy bluff]

If you mean bots' shooting pattern - they always use all guns in exactly the same way.

[grim leaf]

what main/special weapon should I try out next time I play?

[wispy bluff]

Bang. Bang. Bang-bang-bang. Bang.
Something like that

[junior latch]

I swear im so sad this isnt the case

but they could also fix the descriptors on the side for a bunch of things

[sharp owl]

hel shotgun

[wispy bluff]

Try bullpup, see what you think about it. For specials... Try HEL Rifle, see if you can get those penetrating kills.

[grim leaf]

I know I like bulpup, and the hel shotgun I just tried, I guess hel rifle is next to try

is hel rifle a main or secondary?

[wispy bluff]

Special

For main... Have you tried The Pistol yet? Quite a lazy little gun that one.

[grim leaf]

I like the pistol and machine pistol

and the sawed off

smg and heavy smg I am a fan of aswell

is it just me or is it easier to get head shots while crouched?

[rose nova]

i do it too

idk if its just reflex ksks but it feels easier

[grim leaf]

I've been crouching less, but it feels like I aim for the body more when I'm walking as opposed to crouching

I'm still trying to get used to the fact you cant shoot while sprinting lol

[wispy bluff]

Isn't that normal for most modern shooters?

The only ones coming to my mind are Half-Life games and titanfall when you put that one perk on the gun

[grim leaf]

I need to word it a bit better, hold on...

[wraith marsh]

sliding 👍

[grim leaf]

most games, you can start firing while your are sprinting, but it will stop you from sprinting. in gtfo, when I'm sprinting, I cant click to shoot, I have to stop sprinting before it will allow me to pull the trigger

I need to redo my key binds if ima practice sliding

[wispy bluff]

That one's fair

[grim leaf]

I end up walking more than sprinting when in combat due to that feature

I'm used to sprinting into a fight and then firing, but I'm not used to sprinting preventing me from firing

for people who play on keyboard and mouse, what is your preferred keys for sprint and crouch in regards to sliding effectively?

rn I have it set to default

[upbeat sail]

default is fine

[grim leaf]

how do you press them at the same time for a slide tho?

[wispy bluff]

SHIFT is always Sprint, courch is either C or V depending on my mood. I think in GTFO i have it on C and i have it as a toggle.

[grim leaf]

oh, maybe I changed default then, I'm using left control as crouch

wait, no, on default the c key was melee

[rose nova]

i use yeah shift n left control, thumb on control doin the slides and keepin shift pressed, i only have toggle crouch

[grim leaf]

do you use toggle sprint?

[junior latch]

no

[rose nova]

no, i like to control it more cause i use it more than crouch ksmdkm

[junior latch]

hold sprint with pinky

crouch to slide with thumb

[rose nova]

hey im watchin a video with u in

[junior latch]

huh?

[rose nova]

:]

[junior latch]

That doesnt rly narrow stuff down

[grim leaf]

moving my hand like that hurts it ngl

[rose nova]

i didnt wanted to narrow it down i just wated to say it ksks

[junior latch]

[junior latch]

Tbf it probably is kinda unique with hand size

[rose nova]

um the yeah could toggle crouch, maybs rebind to c the crouch but then have another comfy for shovin

or well u dont really need to use C but

for some stuff is nice

i use it too much

maybs crouch C melee V?

[junior latch]

i bet it should be gtfo (as the other videos im in for other games wouldnt make much sense) but thats still 5 different ones (tho 99% its scaler anyway )

[grim leaf]

I use v for melee anyway, so c isnt bound to anything atm, so I could use c

[rose nova]

yeah but hey couldve been another one
... but yeah it just uploaded so

it wasnt, hard to guess

:3

[grim leaf]

I'll have to relearn the muscle memory sadly

[junior latch]

oh god its r5c2

the one level we had to redo

because it crashed

LOL

steam servers man

[grim leaf]

what melee weapon do yall prefer? so far I'm good with the basic bat

[terse swift]

hammer is probably best general use IMO

[rose nova]

funny fun fun when |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||

DAMMIT

the joke

qwq

[rose nova]

i use bat a lot is pretty funky, but general purpose hammer is the way to

i use bat cause its just fun

[terse swift]

bat is good but i think it makes it tough to deal with anything other than a regular sleeper

[wispy bluff]

Spear Main for life (we are an endangered species)

[rough robin]

bat can kill giants pretty reliably but it takes practice

[grim leaf]

any knife users?

[rose nova]

not really, bots or teamplayers ur nice for bigs

n for [spoil enemy]

some, battery charger

[stone sleet]

Bat is good for most situations especially general combat but if I know the others on my team can't kill scouts for shit I'll take sledge

[terse swift]

knife is cool

[rose nova]

knifes funk but it is a bit of a high skill ceiling skmdkm

but u shred smol enemies with it

[terse swift]

knife is a bit tougher to use in combat imo

[rose nova]

bam bam bam wave dead >:]

[rose nova]

just bat the scouts :D

[wispy bluff]

Knife is a quirky one.

It charges so fast you don't have an excuse to never full-charge it

And headshots oneshot smalls, so you're quite the small enemy deleter.

But:

• worthless against giants
• breaks locks in 2 full charges
• hitbox is wonky so you will often hit anything but head

Also its the only weapon in the game with bonus damage against sleeping enemies

[grim leaf]

how often do yall stealth rather than go in swinging when clearing a room?

[rose nova]

u can adapt to the last one but takes more practice

[wispy bluff]

Explain?

[rose nova]

ummm swingin clearin a room tbh is pretty, hard ksmdkm
i stealth when i see the room is, packed to the brim with enemies

but tbh thats partly my skill issue cause i see other people do it

[wispy bluff]

To vets there's no difference between "stealth" and "swinging".
You just... Walk. Crouching wastes time.

Bonk-bonk-bonk

[rose nova]

but it, takes QUITE a lot of time

to master

otherwise u, run it take 80% damage and u cant handle 5 enemies ksksks

[terse swift]

stealth is always the first attempt

because like, even if you fail halfway through, you make it easier for yourself by at least attempting stealth

[grim leaf]

yeah I've been practicing that, but idk if the bat is the best tool for the job

[terse swift]

you're at no risk of losing ammo, health or tool

[tough hedge]

[rose nova]

nah, hammer and bat can be done, and kinfe is made for that

spears just kinda the only one that falls behind cause of the slower runnin speed

[terse swift]

yeah knife kinda crazy

[rose nova]

[terse swift]

played with a team that took entirely knife and shotguns and did zero stealth

[rose nova]

lmao

[terse swift]

just run into a room and stab everything

[spark vapor]

UK players

[terse swift]

it worked unnervingly well

[tough hedge]

[spark vapor]

They had irl practice

[grim leaf]

sounds like my kind of team lol

[rose nova]

:]c

[terse swift]

london moment 😔

[terse swift]

it works great until it suddenly doesn't unfortunately lol

[spark vapor]

Imagine walking on the streets of london and there are 4 people with knives

[rose nova]

and masks

[spark vapor]

And they bhop just like in GTFO

[rose nova]

i would shit myself :3

[spark vapor]

*Thats what sleepers see

[rose nova]

but yeh i kinda try sometimes to yeah like bat my way through but, it just hard on rooms with a big or with, more than 3 enemies stuck together ksmdkm

i mean i try but

i usually end up failing miserably

i need more skill

but tbh it is not needed either is just to speed stuff up

... most cases

[terse swift]

stealth takes a bit of time (i'm not good enough to run around and still stay stealthed) but i think it's almost always the best thing to do, cus resources are often so scarce, it's good to conserve them for doors

[grim leaf]

in order to practice combat, I've been forcing myself into fight or die scenarios, like rushing into a room guns a blazing and starting alarms without setting up defenses and such, I try to see how far I can get before my team gets wiped

[spark vapor]

And then you've opened GTFO?

[grim leaf]

lmao

naw, that's in gtfo

[rose nova]

kmdskm i mean speed stealth tbh only accelerates clearin rooms not really savin up resources, unless u mean savin the resource of time

[grim leaf]

I do that with bots, mind you, I would never do that in a real lobby

[burnt flume]

if you really want to get better

don't use bots and force yourself to hold alarms solo

[rose nova]

well thats kinda way harder to do too

[spark vapor]

Take LMG

[grim leaf]

I'm still very new, but I do plan to try a true solo run some time

[spark vapor]

And spray&pray

Stronger the prayers, the better aim (C)

[terse swift]

i mean "if i wake up the room i will lose health and probably ammo"

[rose nova]

ah ah yeah that yeah :3

[rose nova]

u never seen me of course

my good 300 hours an i still waste an entire hel revo clip in one enemy :3

[grim leaf]

lol

[spark vapor]

Pick weapon that you can handle better. I personally don't like HEL weapons that much due to the fact that instead of firing i have to wait for 1-2 seconds

Or some other delay

But i want to kill them all

Instantly.

[rose nova]

i mean hel revo doesnt have any charge up or anythin im just bad hittin headshots :3

except with revo

weird exception

[grim leaf]

I'm tempted to just use sawed off paired with combat shotgun tbh

I like em both

[rose nova]

very low range combo but well for some level with, enough ammo n stuff sure ksmdkm

[grim leaf]

that's what I'm afraid of, the low range of it u.u

could pair well with others builds tho

[rose nova]

yeah ksmdkm but well maybs on a cornery level tho

like... um
r1a1 or somethin? ksks

think thats the only one i can think on r1

[wispy bluff]

Anything in the caves

[rose nova]

the caves ksmdkm

[grim leaf]

tbh I bring the combat shotgun to most missions and just swap out my main weapon to try them

[rose nova]

i did the same for a bit but if i dont nab different guns i get tired of em ksdmkm

i got super annoyed of carbine i cant even see it anymore

[grim leaf]

I've gotten comfortable with the combat shotty lol, I cradle it like a baby

I'm not much for the guns that charge up, but I should practice with them more

[wispy bluff]

Combat Shotgun is tehnically the greatest special in the game right now

Insane kill value per hit of a tool refill

[rose nova]

right

[wispy bluff]

22 or something

[rose nova]

... tool refill?

[wispy bluff]

That's assuming you can flawlessly get oneshot-kills with it

Because apparently you can

[terse swift]

combat shotgun is decent but god i can't deal with that spread

[grim leaf]

it also feels nice in the hands

I like shotguns, so I'm not bothered by the spread

[wispy bluff]

I really want to like HAR but the damn thing runs out of ammo at insane speeds

Wether or not its a fair price for being the comfy jack of all trades is... Debatable.

So instead i settle for High Cal or Precision Rifle depending on my mood

[rose nova]

[debates]

i like combat but for most of my runs i usually need somethin with more dmg

i run bots so i gotta b giant killer

[spark vapor]

High cal pistol just feels good

Like, animation that represent strong power and recoil, sweet.

[grim leaf]

pistol paired with pistol

[rose nova]

i liked it on release but tbh the, magic wore off ksmdkm i just see it as a kinda basic normal fps gun

gtfo usually has very funky weapons but thats just a deagle

[rose nova]

revo paired with revo

[grim leaf]

:3

[rose nova]

:] maximum revo power ksmdkm

[grim leaf]

i like revolvers, but i need my high mag guns :,c

[rose nova]

:[ smh
the drawbacks of needin a balance

[grim leaf]

what's the best burst main in yalls opinion?

[wispy bluff]

Carbine, its not even a debate

Insane amounts of ammo, decent hipfire

Just got BRT BRT BRT like you're using a pistol

Burst Rifle is close 2nd, but it needs aim and recoil is rough

[rose nova]

didnt it just got ammo nerfs

[grim leaf]

I'm trying to find a main that I can get comfortable with so I can use other specials besides the combat shotgun

[rose nova]

i just kinda roll with whatevs, mostly automatics to have somethin to annihilate enemies fast :b

[grim leaf]

I'll try carbine, I havent tried it yet

so on my next run I'll be using the carbine paired with the arbalist

[rose nova]

:O noice

[grim leaf]

ima see how I like em

[burnt flume]

yeah that's the point, if something is more challenging you have to improve more to do it

[grim leaf]

I like the sound of that

is the heavy assault rifle any good?

havent tried it yet, but looks useful

[sharp siren]

Quick killing

good damage

not a lot of ammo

no charge up

[grim leaf]

good range?

[sharp siren]

decent range

[grim leaf]

hmmm

[sharp siren]

not like your gonna be shooting anything past 15m

[junior latch]

Artek, carbine does not have insane ammo my man

[junior latch]

And no

:(

[analog flicker]

Carbine can burn through ammo really quickly

The hipfire is relatively good as well.

[analog flicker]

Also Carbine has more recoil than Burst rifle.

I miss running Burst rifle/revo

Should return to it one day

[wispy bluff]

What? Not anymore?

What does it have then and why is it still S-tier?

[analog flicker]

Dps/damage per mag/fast reload/decent range

It has good ammo. But it isn't Insane

[junior latch]

Never had particularly good kills/refill man

its low end at 8 now (not that it matters much)

[upbeat sail]

it feels like it has worse ammo then most of the automatics to me

[wraith marsh]

it can be more punishing if you miss full bursts

[analog flicker]

Depends if you're effectively trying to get 2 burst kills on strikers/shooters

[junior latch]

Huge burst (generally good dps, but big mag gives it big burst potential)
Dis is great when vs bigs, chargers or simply waves of smalls. Only hel shotgun does more there

Fast reload
Simple kills (2 bursts can kill (technically 1 for shooter lol), 3 for bodyshors. 1 burst = 1 shot of smth like a hel revo/dmr for example

Decent/Good range, absolutely WIIIDEE bullets

[junior latch]

It technically does. But full autos struggle getting their perfect accuracy

[analog flicker]

Yes. I can get a perfect 7 bullet kill on a striker every time with AR

[junior latch]

most of its strengths are just its insanely high uptime and burst potential

coupled with good range and wide bullets means its very easily applicable at many things

[modest spoke]

solution: shoot slower

as a plus you save ammo!

just because it's full auto doesn't mean you need to use full auto

[junior latch]

Just play a burst or semi auto then

[analog flicker]

Not possible on harder levels and you're being rushed next to needing something Dead Now

[junior latch]

you lose a bunch of output when you dont shoot

[analog flicker]

Yep

[wraith marsh]

tbh, its less so even that

more so its harder to get headshot efficiency with autos

[junior latch]

if you tap fire its definetly doable

[modest spoke]

don't take this comment the wrong way

[junior latch]

but its just not worth it

[burnt flume]

shooting slower is situational

in some places it's definitely the move though

[modest spoke]

but that kind of sounds like a bit of a skill issue
just aim lmao

[junior latch]

rarely you are allowed to do it

[upbeat sail]

idk why you would need to tap fire it just dont mag dump the thing

[analog flicker]

Basically at range. (Which in most cases is already past your automatics damage falloff start)

[junior latch]

you gonna send a video of you getting bullet perfect kills in an alarm?

[modest spoke]

don't choose something that recoils to the moon unless you need whatever firepower it's packing

[wraith marsh]

im impressed

honestly

[analog flicker]

The only thing that really recoiled to the moon was Old HAR for people who can't recoil control

[burnt flume]

shooting at range or in lower danger situations where you can take the time to be more picky

[modest spoke]

that's what I meant via "skill issue"
if you can't handle the recoil, shoot slower

or just.... git gud m8

[analog flicker]

[junior latch]

.?

[analog flicker]

Not my point but ok

[junior latch]

full autos will have drop off from their accuracy

[wraith marsh]

I can 😃

[burnt flume]

there aren't many guns that have terribly uncontrollable recoil

[wraith marsh]

this convo got really funny really fast

[junior latch]

Chill Dude
You play hel shotgun (based af btw)

[wraith marsh]

yeah, recoil in this game is kind of a joke

I used to run har

[analog flicker]

My point was that nothing has recoil of that level anymore.

[wraith marsh]

byeah, I do generally run semis

[upbeat sail]

burst cannon

[junior latch]

I find it so weird when people bring up recoil for HAR and say its tame compared to other games or smth

What other games have recoil that awful lol

[analog flicker]

Burst cannons is still usable to a degree unlike Nerfed HAR making no one want to use it

[junior latch]

csgo? Valoranr, overwatch?

na

[wraith marsh]

so heres the thing

this game likes bloom

not recoil

your shots going random directions regardless of your ability to keep your cursor on an enemy is not recoil

[analog flicker]

Well I just refer to the nerfed one in particular where they ramped its recoil a lot. I'd like to go and try it out again to see if I can control now ngl

[junior latch]

yep
Which was the biggest issue with HAR

Gun kicked to the top right? Bullet went bottom left

[wraith marsh]

yes, so me saying recoil is not bad is true but also

in general I kind of say that as a meme

because ppl never specify

or even know the difference half the time

which is also funny because patch notes dont differentiate either

[junior latch]

mostly i just generalize here

[marsh fog]

jsut got griefed

by a troll

[junior latch]

ammo/efficiency is smth that i only touch upon usually

[marsh fog]

hacking and he fucking killed us all lmao

[junior latch]

otherwise it gets deep aswell

[analog flicker]

nerfs pdw/hel revo reloads
*didn't specify it was the reload cancel specifically&
Sounds like patch note activity

[junior latch]

Dm Modcontact

[marsh fog]

we are

that was so upsetting

[burnt flume]

what'd they do?

[modest spoke]

b o i

[marsh fog]

they used all the ammo packs on themself while having a infinate ammo hack then team kileld us all then himself then he left

[analog flicker]

DM ModContact and in 1 message possibly with any form of media you have. A Moderator/admin will review it eventually

[marsh fog]

we are

i ghot a screenshot of him in game to

[burnt flume]

huh, lame ass person

[junior latch]

Its just cringe ass players

sadly theres not much to be done there

[marsh fog]

i jsut wanted to do r6ax

[hasty quarry]

they need more love in life

[analog flicker]

[hasty quarry]

btw, anyone know how i can reset my completion progress or something so i can get more unlocks?

[analog flicker]

has no life so they troll in a dying game

Iirc you also need to contact modcontact about that

[hasty quarry]

i did but they sent me to calle the community manager instead so i'm waiting

[wraith marsh]

RESET REQUEST

!

[analog flicker]

Welp. It's just waiting for Calle then

[hasty quarry]

i see

[analog flicker]

I'm still waiting for when I hit the reset requirement

[hasty quarry]

whats the reset requirement

i just don't have any incomplete levels anymore

[junior latch]

then theres nothing anymore

[analog flicker]

Is the no cosmetics unlocking not a bug anymore?

[junior latch]

if your last completion gave you smth then you have all you can have (which isnt necessarily all available)

[junior latch]

That was a r4/5 thing due to lack of cosmetics being released thing iirc

[analog flicker]

I see

[grim leaf]

what is the usual loadout for tools on a team?

one of each?

[burnt flume]

bio, burst sentry, cfoam (or swap for another burst sentry), mines

[grim leaf]

ah ok

I never run bio, but I probably will in later runs

[wraith marsh]

cfoams technically the better pick but a lot of ppl find it op/boring so we just run 2 sentry

[burnt flume]

the more that I'm thinking about it or trying to say it

the more I think it's funny to just run 2 bios for most missions if your team is good enough

[wraith marsh]

its not a horrible idea, but theres not really any reason to

[grim leaf]

lol

[modest spoke]

I run bio in whatever group I join most of the time
I get annoyed when they completely ignore me then get mad that they're low on health after waking several several rooms

[wraith marsh]

very rarely, even on shadow levels, do you need 2 bio if your bio player is good

[junior latch]

Now you can flame 2 teammates if an enemy is unpinged

Awesome

[modest spoke]

like no shit genius, if only there was a way you could know in advance

[burnt flume]

maybe I've gone crazy from spending too long in duos

and reminiscing on 2 bio r4e1

either as trio or full team

[junior latch]

2 bio r6d3 or r6cx

[grim leaf]

rn I'm learning to play without the bio, trying to gain an instinct about the game before I start working with pinged enemies

[wraith marsh]

based

[junior latch]

its a good idea to learn without it

[wraith marsh]

some ppl get really reliant on pings its kinda crazy

[junior latch]

but you gonna have it at all times unless

1. bio player dies
2. you solo/duo run
3. you speedrun
4. you do wacky challenge runs

[grim leaf]

I've heard that, I dont wanna be one of those players

[burnt flume]

in a lot of duos you're fine taking bio anyway

[grim leaf]

challenge runs sound fun

[burnt flume]

but that does mean you have 1 less tool to help fill in for skill issues

[muted cypress]

You might change ur mind after doing r5d1

[grim leaf]

are sniper rifles useful?

[hasty quarry]

just give bishop a bio

[wraith marsh]

yes

[hasty quarry]

"TAGGED! TAGGED! TAGGED! TAGGED! TAGGED!" -Bishop

[wraith marsh]

plural no

[wispy bluff]

Yes. Absolutely.

[junior latch]

Rarely*

[grim leaf]

they seem a bit lacking in ammo

[wispy bluff]

That's the point

They are giant / boss killers

They oneshot any normal enemy with a single headshot

[junior latch]

Imagine if sniper got 6 per refill

:^ )

[wraith marsh]

you mainly use it for the utility, assuming your sniper player is good

[burnt flume]

I'm not saying that you should always take bio in duos, I'm saying in most missions you're fine to

[junior latch]

fine to, yes

[hasty quarry]

i wish sniper had 4 in mag

[burnt flume]

like hell, most of the missions I've done duo so far have been done with a bio

[wispy bluff]

I was on sniper duty in R6C2 recently. Its an honest work.

[junior latch]

but you will be skipping it more often than not

Especially if you arent talking about „hur dur 3000 hour duo doing R6B1“ but a duo of people new to duoing

[hasty quarry]

what does dishonest work look like

[junior latch]

bio is not optimal for most duos

which is the point basically

bio is bio tho so

[wispy bluff]

Climbing to the cheese spot in that one section of R7E1

[junior latch]

Door bug

:>

[burnt flume]

why does everyone diss me

[wispy bluff]

Haven't seen that in a while. Thank god.

[wraith marsh]

why do you need to ask (in this case)

[hasty quarry]

i think u misspelled MISS

[wraith marsh]

its door bug, theres nothing not dishonest about it

[junior latch]

Theres a bunch of cool ideas
Pacifist, no hit, guns only, level specific stuff

And while i split speedruns off they also count to it

[junior latch]

Honestly i expected someone trying to joke diss me with it lol

[wispy bluff]

What's the opinion on burst rifle these days

[wraith marsh]

its good but no one uses it

[hasty quarry]

lol ya

[wispy bluff]

I tried using it just now and its... I don't know, kinda quirky.