gtfo-chat

[wispy bluff]

Not forced. That was normal to him.

Science first and all that.

[latent palm]

He is LITERALLY the one who created this

[sharp owl]

how

that seems wrong

[wispy bluff]

Debatable, no confirmation on that.

[sharp owl]

namv and parasite existed beforehand

[latent palm]

Look up R5A3 logs dingus

[pastel aurora]

Fitting honestly. Poetic. Having to go down into the Complex to see his creations again and again with no idea who made them.

[sharp owl]

how did he make anything

[true pilot]

dauda lead the nam-v research i think

[latent palm]

Yup

[wispy bluff]

But alt Dauda was pretty, how can I put this... A doomer?

[sharp owl]

ok, and

[wispy bluff]

He was just done with it.

[true pilot]

so when all went to hell he was partly in fault

[latent palm]

Verge of being abandoned

Almost didn’t even make it

If it weren’t for the team still waiting for more pods to bring back

[true pilot]

and the fact woods didnt shoot him

[latent palm]

If not he was very much doomed

[latent palm]

Like i said

[sharp owl]

schaeffer has no right being alive

[latent palm]

KDS deep protocol needed much resources

And the objectives was simple

Go in

Extract as many as u can

gTFO

[outer lantern]

Schaffer seems like an idiot, from the like 4 missions I’ve played that he was in

[latent palm]

He is the opposite

He is like us

But he questions himself

And where we stand in this

“Are you here to kill me? Are you here to survive as well?”

OG R6A1

[true pilot]

Well ALT schafer is also diffrent from og

[latent palm]

Yes

[true pilot]

alt can seem a bit.. dumber

[latent palm]

Schaffer has literally

[true pilot]

but og schafer is/was a chad

[latent palm]

Break 2 tanks ankles

[wispy bluff]

To be precise alt is smarter.

[latent palm]

And pablos ankles as well

[sharp owl]

does the warden bot do anything

[wispy bluff]

He even was promoted higher too.

[latent palm]

[wispy bluff]

Had his own projects going on.

[sharp owl]

what

[outer lantern]

Warden bot is auto mod iirc

[true pilot]

og didnt have that?

[wispy bluff]

Nope.

[true pilot]

and still i mean ingame

and not before the fall

[latent palm]

Tell me

[true pilot]

he can have a vibe of being a bit stupid

[latent palm]

Can you escape a tank

Or even more so

Pablo

[outer lantern]

Who is Pablo

[latent palm]

While recording

A audio log

[latent palm]

The funni unkillable tank

[outer lantern]

is his name being Pablo canon

if yes I love that

[latent palm]

Which is darker and gray in color

[latent palm]

Games files yes

Lore no

It is a funni name we gave hime

[thick temple]

wait game files?

[latent palm]

Cause if you shoot him he goes after you very menacingly

[outer lantern]

le datamining has arrived

[latent palm]

Saw someone talk aboutit

[thick temple]

in what file is it referred to as pablo

[latent palm]

Was just pokin on data mining

But you get the idea

Skinny lookin ass guy

But he got the jays

Creased a tanks J’S

Stepped on Pablo’s Jordans

Chad Schaffer

Btw @pastel aurora

If you have more questions

About the more indepth stuff

Hop on to #gtfo-lore

And ask Frostty

[pastel aurora]

Okie

[latent palm]

And im serious

ALWAYS

ask Frostty

[pastel aurora]

It went from "why did no one decide to drop a nuke into the Complex" to "Data mining".

[latent palm]

Data mining

Is a different word

We use that term to dig in game files

[pastel aurora]

I know what it is.

[latent palm]

Not game theory or sumthig like rhat

But yes

A weapon on a scale

Of a nuke

Was deployed to the underground

[quartz cape]

do not ask frostty

she is a hater

[latent palm]

Hence why you are dropping from a giant tube like run way

[latent palm]

[pastel aurora]

Dude. I wanted to get the OST of the game but couldn't find it online. So I went data mining. Couldn't access jack.

Big sad.

[latent palm]

Ost?

Look on YouTube

[pastel aurora]

The original soundtrack. The score.

[quartz cape]

check easternunit00's channel

thats your best bet

[latent palm]

Took the words right out of my mouth

Lol

[sharp owl]

did r1 not have logs

why does the wiki not have them

[quartz cape]

OG r1, yes

[rose nova]

if u wanna search for the ones on the alt, search for ALT://Rundown 1

then the log page should appear

[livid gulch]

Furry Theory

[latent palm]

No

Wubcat theory

[livid gulch]

cat? sounds furry

[light tusk]

I just beat r6d1 with my friend (and 2 bots)

was awesome level

[rose nova]

eyy nice :]

[hollow kiln]

Guys can anyone help me with gtfo? my friend cannot reconnect to my game after she got dc, what can she do to rejoin>

[wispy bluff]

Press "O".
Tell us the game session time.
Then open ESC > Settings > see if you can find the COPY LOBBY ID button

[hollow kiln]

I kept clicking the copy lobby id but could not paste it anywhere

[wispy bluff]

Session time?

After a long enough play time the game lobby dies and doesn't work anymore

An hour+, something like that.

[rose nova]

also the code doesnt need to be pasted

u just copy it, go into the game and under TRAINING u can see the button to join

if, it is still there

i guess

[hollow kiln]

Session time is 50:43

[lavish jay]

(their friend is the one who needs the code)

[hollow kiln]

My game is still on going my friend wants to rejoin 😦

[wispy bluff]

Hmm

When you press ESC do you see buttons for playerts lots?

"Players only"
"bots and players"
etc?

[hollow kiln]

Yes i can see player only where my friend used to be

It's empty

[wispy bluff]

Hm

The lobby is still alive

Okay, try once again going to settings, smash that COPY LOBBY button and try pasting it here

(dont actually send the message)

Do it with CTRL+V if possible

[hollow kiln]

i tried smashing it. still cannot paste it 😦

[wispy bluff]

Weird shit. It appears you got GTFO'd.

Okay...

Try setting all players slots to LOCKED

[hollow kiln]

please dont give up on me yet 😦

[wispy bluff]

Then back to PLAYERS ONLY

Or at least one of them

[hollow kiln]

done

[wispy bluff]

Back to settings, copy lobby

[hollow kiln]

still nothing 😦

[wispy bluff]

Ripperony

[hollow kiln]

what does the code usually look like?

[wispy bluff]

93549367439563

Many numbers

[burnt flume]

How are you playing the game?

And no, just check any lfg channel for what the code normally looks like

The first half of it or whatever is always the same

[hollow kiln]

we're playing through steam 😦

[wispy bluff]

109775242464~ it worked for me

[hollow kiln]

It was a long cold and bloody night, we were in a midst of a horde of monsters. Sentries firing everywhere. then when the smoke settled...she was gone 😦

[burnt flume]

Honestly, try restarting both your games if you haven't

[wispy bluff]

Me thinks you truly got GTFO'd, you have to restart the mission

[burnt flume]

That's always the first thing to try

[hollow kiln]

Won't I lose all my progress if I do that 😦 we're hoping to salvage what's left in our game 😦

[wispy bluff]

They're mid mission

What mission is it?

[burnt flume]

Ah yeah if you're mid mission then rip

[hollow kiln]

we

[burnt flume]

Lobbies get fucked sometimes

[hollow kiln]

we're on our second mission 😦

we just started today 😦

[wispy bluff]

R1B1?

[hollow kiln]

Yupe

[wispy bluff]

Not too big a loss, could be worse missions for that to happen. I'm really sorry, but its just how this game rolls sometimes. I honestly have no idea why your button would stop working.

IMHO the fact that you can't copy it and the fact that your friend got kicked out might be correlated

And just in case: do restart the games anyway

GTFO has some problems with long gaming sessions. Memory leak or something, i don't know... But its advisible to restart the game after every expedition, just in case.

[hollow kiln]

I heard you can configure the game to have check points

how do I do that?

[wispy bluff]

Not really

Its a long ass story

But they're a feature from Rundown 6 and onwards

[wicked solstice]

that’s a mod, which isn’t allowed here

[wispy bluff]

Rundowns 1-through-5 don't have them

[wicked solstice]

Well

[hollow kiln]

Oh crap

[wispy bluff]

Oh?

[hollow kiln]

sorry 😦

[wicked solstice]

From R6-7, they’re fine

No ur good

[wispy bluff]

Neat to know i guess, especially if you just play as 2

[hollow kiln]

O

we're only playing as a pair 🙂

[wicked solstice]

But you said “configure to have checkpoints,” so I took that as modding

[wispy bluff]

Friendly reminder that the game is balanced around 4 players and does not adjust difficulty for reduced squads, unless you install some mods for it.

R1C1 is gonna be a wake up call.

[hollow kiln]

I have faith 🙂

[wicked solstice]

Basically though, as long as you aren’t using non-QoL mods in the game while playing in this server’s vc’s

You are fine

[hollow kiln]

We're not a fan of mods too don't worry 🙂 I wanna play the game as fair as possible 🙂

[wicked solstice]

Don’t worry about it, just a question and no harm in asking. You’re fine using checkpoints here as long as you aren’t modifying the game to add them where they’re not

[wicked solstice]

And don’t worry, I use plenty of mods, just not here

There’s a modding server if you’re interested

[gray pilot]

Is the mod allowed where I have 500% movement speed?

[wicked solstice]

-_-

[hollow kiln]

Nah I'm not really a fan of mods, haha it's a a double edged thing, usually it turns your computer's brain into a soup if too much is done 😄 hahaha

[gray pilot]

I’ll take it as a maybe

[wicked solstice]

ah yes, QoL

[lavish jay]

tbf given the problems checkpoints can cause at the best of times, adding more of them in new locations sounds like it's just asking for trouble

[wicked solstice]

i love seeing people say that running with heavy items and having 200% health is “QoL”

it’s the funniest shit

[gray pilot]

Never run into these

[hollow kiln]

where's the fun in that if you can't enjoy the game in its prime 😄

[wicked solstice]

exaaactly

[lavish jay]

I can see an argument for the former in situations where a room has already been cleared (less time spent doing manual labour), not so much in combat

[wicked solstice]

Especially with GTFO, where you’re beating levels primarily to achieve beating the levels

[wicked solstice]

That I see, but it allows it in combat. Also passive timers exist (eg R6C3EX, where there might not be sleepers but you’d run faster with cells)

[hollow kiln]

Exactly. Maybe yeah do mods on a room you've already cleared just for the sake of it 😄 but I guess not gonna do it unless I finish the whole dang thing 😄

[wispy bluff]

If that means playing as 2 people WITHOUT BOTS - that's a dream basically. I do believe almost every mission got duo'd, but by very experienced players.

[wicked solstice]

And when I say I play with mods btw, I mean I play custom levels, not use cheats lol

[hollow kiln]

we kept bots, we need meat shields after all 😄 hahaha

[wicked solstice]

bots are good meat shields

[hollow kiln]

yupe and sentry mules 😄 haha

[lavish jay]

Bots are probably canon KSOs

[wispy bluff]

Oh good.

Give Bishop biotracker, immediately

[hollow kiln]

i'll update you guys if we finish the whole game with just us two and a couple of meat shields haha

[wispy bluff]

And never give them cfoam launcher, if you can help it

[wispy bluff]

See you in 2 months

[hollow kiln]

nah, i'm good with the free cfoams in the game haha

[lavish jay]

(tbf I'm a fan of Hackett's biotracker complaints)

[hollow kiln]

I'm a fan of hackett in general 😄 haha

[lavish jay]

Give Hackett the biotracker

[hollow kiln]

that dude threw his life for me, literally

[modern coral]

@jade iron You guys done every level yet, actually?

[lavish jay]

Free Hackett ASMR

[modern coral]

I think most duos don't, but I don't actually know.

[wicked solstice]

I can almost 100% guarantee you won’t finish the whole game duo with bots, but plenty of levels can be done that way

Enjoy btw

Gtfo blind is awesome

[hollow kiln]

I like a challenge, my friend 🙂

[wispy bluff]

Then you'll fit right in

unlike me

[wicked solstice]

R4C3 Cuernos

[hollow kiln]

well...sadly I couldn't find another person to watch my back that's why I was left with only one partner in the game 😄 hahaha (besides the two meatheads)

[wispy bluff]

R4 C3
🤮

[wicked solstice]

:3

[hollow kiln]

I'm not saying that I trust my partner to watch my back, I just know at least the one damaging me is her 😄 hahahahaha

[wicked solstice]

I gave Artek flashbacks lol

[wispy bluff]

Oh, and another hint for the bots: never give them anything that deals a lot of per bullet damage.
Various assault rifles and LMGs are best choice for them.
Unless you really like getting killed by them at random moments

[wicked solstice]

I can do that to two people, trigger them by listing a single level name

[modern coral]

Damage per bullet doesn't matter that much imo.

Bot friendly fire seemed surprisingly tame to me.

[wicked solstice]

It matters with like shotguns

[hollow kiln]

plus I prefer to play the game with a beginner like myself not someone who already finished the whole game 😄 haha at least we'll both explore the game as a new discovery 😄

[lavish jay]

but seriously, use one as sentry mule, and give Hackett the biotracker, you won't regret it

[wispy bluff]

Well, and you also don't want to watch Hackett take a Choke Mod blast to a sleeper right in front of him and fucking miss

[wicked solstice]

Or have one of you take bio

[modern coral]

That's RoF, though.

Like, they suck with Revo too.

[wicked solstice]

Because you don’t want bots on bio with surges

[hollow kiln]

Nah, I like my friend using the tracker, I prefer my boths with sentries instead 🙂

[wicked solstice]

I give em burst rifle and veruta

[lavish jay]

valid

[wicked solstice]

Bc they burst cancel

[wispy bluff]

Wait what? Why?

[hollow kiln]

I didn't expect this to be a very lively community 😄 haha

[merry sluice]

It very welcoming. I enjoy it.

[wispy bluff]

Its same 5 people every day, don't worry

[hollow kiln]

I might come and visit this place from time to time 🙂

[lavish jay]

with surprisingly frequent mass debates about somewhat inconsequential things 🙏

[hollow kiln]

Where's the fun without heated argument and a bag of popcorns to boot 😄

[wispy bluff]

"HEL Revolver revolution and its' consequences~"

[modern coral]

One of those "this used to be stronger?" weapons.

[hollow kiln]

I do believe those that the preference of each is what makes the weapon stronger instead of just saying one specific weapon is the best. In a hands of an amateur, the most deadly weapon is just a paper weight, ain't it?

[lavish jay]

and then there's the HEL autopistol

[modern coral]

It does depend where you're at on the skill curve, but if you're far enough along it can make the most sense to invest time into learning the strongest weapons for the patch.

For newer players, the main issue is just combat fundamentals and lacking competence in general.

[wispy bluff]

Ehhhh... Some of the weapons used to be utter dogsh~ until recent balance patch that closed a lot of the gaps.

Spear and Bullpup used to be complete memes until 2 weeks ago

[hollow kiln]

I bet a lot of stuff has been through HEL every patch haha

[wispy bluff]

shakes hand

PDW was born a god

[modern coral]

I'm not sure if you understand that abbreviation, but that is actually pretty spot on.

[hollow kiln]

and is now as mortal man? haha

[wispy bluff]

More like one of those house demons that can still curse your entire family blood line

Could be worse. But do continue feeding it cookies unless you don't like your children.

[lavish jay]

well, taking taking that comment literally, it's only been the HEL autopistol (given bullet penetration with ALT://Rundown 4.0) and the HEL auto sentry (given bullet penetration with ALT://Rundown 6.0). The other HEL weapons (the ones with bullet penetration) were always HEL weapons

[hollow kiln]

as they say, "What's the worst thing that can happen?" haha

[modern coral]

In my mind, I'm thinking more of how much HEL breaks the game.

[lavish jay]

true

[modern coral]

Mega-OP weapons, slapping HEL onto random guns to make them "good," etc.

[hollow kiln]

I feel like a lot of you here really needs a hug, seems like you guys have been through HEL and back 😄

[wispy bluff]

AoE wins, every time. Simple as.

Warframe has this issue to this day

Why bother with aiming an assault rifle when you can just shoot rockets everywhere like a Katyusha

[hollow kiln]

oh let's not get into warframe now, shall we 😄

[lavish jay]

terminals amirite

[hollow kiln]

nods

[wispy bluff]

No one seems to be playing R6 C2...

I wonder whah

[hollow kiln]

No spoilers 🙈

[wicked solstice]

Based level

Do not diss

[wispy bluff]

Urgh, fine... Thanos.mp4

[wicked solstice]

i love that level

[wispy bluff]

Its the level of all time, why on earth would you

[lavish jay]

hydrostatis units containing important people just left by the wayside in a nondescript storage area amirite

[hollow kiln]

"..To each their own..."

[wispy bluff]

what do you mean i dont have sentry CPU boosters

Oh thank god, found one

[sacred crown]

we are 3 dudes looking for a last player

[lavish jay]

check out #how-to-matchmake for advice about how to find the last player

[hollow kiln]

Which rundown are you going for?

[sacred crown]

R1B1

second misson of the first rundown

we are all new to the game 😄

[rose nova]

hello! u can check the LFG channels to share n join lobbies! the instructions are in https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/653623062964731920

just some advice!
always ask to not be carried, make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel :]

[torpid helm]

Im down, looking for a game myself

[sacred crown]

rex

nice

[wispy bluff]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[wispy bluff]

Come on people, we have a procedure

[hollow kiln]

I'm new to the game too. My friend and I did the second mission, just got cut off mid game ☹️

[rose nova]

damn qwq

[wispy bluff]

Alright, if no one is joining until 15 minutes - i'm trying to solo this crap again

[hollow kiln]

Which mission?

[wispy bluff]

It's all my favorite people. Am I being stalked?... Either way : I've good a good feeling about this.

[junior latch]

1. nope, theres definite differences even in the very similar main weapons

2. I agree tho, even the best weapon is worthless if wielded badly (and theres guns that are simply harder/easier to use)

[junior latch]

R6C2 is banger

Awesome to figure out, very fun to challenge run in. Also great ending

[wicked solstice]

YES

based

[muted cypress]

Didn’t they fix D3 reactor codes staying the same at one point?

[wicked solstice]

At one point yes

It’s broken again now though

[charred ember]

i roughed up my arm i cant play fps game for a while

we meet again someday r2

[gentle stump]

who else has the dedication to run thru the entirety of gtfo solo 👀

[wispy bluff]

There we go, C-tier finished.

Only Ds remain.

Drip drops keep depressing me... Recolours everywhere.

So far the only thing that i got and care about is a light blue colour palete

[sharp owl]

not hard to make the exclusive drops color compatible

but i guess they wont so they can have the excuse of "we made more cosmetics tho"

[lofty grotto]

What about Soundless?

[burnt flume]

solo is boring as fuck and becomes mostly kiting

and if you say solo with bots I'll pretend you never existed

[remote rivet]

solo with bots is a special hell for some levels

[lofty grotto]

Really?

Not even in cases where I solo with bots because I can’t hear ingame?

[sharp owl]

dont say solo with bots is what he means

[sharp siren]

Based

the whole statement

based

ill cut my ears off or stand right next to a granade blast to have the true soundless gtfo experience

[charred ember]

soundless does sound like alot pain

[burnt flume]

I think it'd probably be easier to just clog your ears

[merry sluice]

A run with bots should just be called a run with the Three Stooges honestly.

[burnt flume]

or blow them out with really loud speakers

[lavish jay]

I still think that bots are just canon KSOs

[charred ember]

sometime bot is smarter than some rando

[lavish jay]

mindless soldier drones go wheeee

[burnt flume]

like tbh i don't care if you say "alone with bots", but the moment you use the word solo

[lofty grotto]

Ah ok

[lofty grotto]

It is. In a shadow level, it’s more than torture

[lavish jay]

and woods' relative sanity/agency is why he was designed as a 'fault' class KSO 🙏

[charred ember]

i rely heavily on sound to take out scout

especially when theres no biotracker

[gentle stump]

ill do it

[latent palm]

Oh yeah

Now I noticed

Not alot of chargers on R6 levels

[sharp owl]

r6d2 r6d4

[lofty grotto]

Video proof XD

[heady peak]

hello

[wispy bluff]

Hi

[heady peak]

Hi

[gentle stump]

give me a while i gotta work n try this shit at the same time

[lofty grotto]

XD

[jade iron]

nah, last I counted we still had 9 levels across r4/r5 that we were yet to duo

and most of alt r6, but we duo'd the OG so it's not really a priority

still to do:
r4: c3 d1 d2 e1
r5: c2 c3 d1 d2 e1

[burnt flume]

r4e1, boy oh boy

[jade iron]

we had r4c3pe just about done but then r5 dropped and that took priority

more recently we had r5c2pe worked out (several runs past arena but choked in reactor, etc) but then r6 dropped and ahto wanted to do runs of r6c3

work and other stuff irl has ramped up for us in the last few months so we haven't been able to put in the reps, and have a fair bit of cold running skill issue to work off when we put in attempts

[jade iron]

tbh I'm kinda grateful that we have projects ahead, given 10cc is dropping the game a matter of months from now

[sharp siren]

you wish r8 its a couple of months from now

late 2024

[jade iron]

either way

we still have stuff to keep us occupied

[burnt flume]

i guess there is a point to playing through r8

don't see much point in alt 5 or 6

[jade iron]

I've enjoyed both so far

also it's good to have them both in the current vanilla build

[burnt flume]

I guess

it's there if you want it but I don't have any motivation to play them

[jade iron]

I think some of the "they nerfed it now it's bad" stuff is a bit overblown

and some of it is legit for sure

[unkempt glen]

🌺 /\___/\
/ ඞ ඞ \ 🦋
( == ⩊ ==) ╱|、
( ) (˚ˎ 。7
/ \ | | |\ |、˜〵
(__(__)____(__)) じしˍ,)ノ

[burnt flume]

my opinion is that it's lame to nerf the levels

[jade iron]

r5c2ov arena for example, tbh I think the snatchers are more of a complication duo than another boring double tank fight

[burnt flume]

yeah snatcher perhaps can give a more interesting outcome

but it's also like, 5x easier to kill

[jade iron]

snatchers can be this random touch of death that comes along when you're not looking in the right direction

"okay you dropped me on a bbc, rip me I guess"

"hang on why the hell am I getting punched in the void"

I guess I'm just over double tank fights in general

[jade iron]

if you're interested in ditching the meat shields eventually (or find that they're somehow ineffective or whatever), I think probably the best advice I can give you is to solo some A/B tier levels (without bots)

probably the thing that made our duos work was that we were both reasonably competent solo players

not gods, we hadn't solo'd entire rundowns or whatever

but each of us alone could hold a reasonable alarm in an A or B level solo without much issue

it meant we each came in reasonably competent in gunplay, movement, had a reasonable foundation of game knowledge, etc

[thick temple]

this is the biggest thing for me by far personally, with the current state of the game
sure, i could have played them before with some shenanigans, but having everything available from the get-go is just so much better to me
nerfs are whatever to me since i haven't played the originals and everything feels hard enough anyway to me

[jade iron]

once we were competent players individually, we were able to work out how to break up tasks into roles, team cohesion, etc.

off the top of my head, stuff like r6b1, r5a2, r4a2, r1a1, r3a1, probably a bunch of r2 b levels, will get you up to scratch if you drop into them solo with a burst sentry and grind the alarms

[jade iron]

I think part of it for me also is the guns

people like to meme about the guns being powercrept to death, as though r4 bc or r6 sniper didn't exist or whatever

[thick temple]

5pen hel revo

[jade iron]

you could argue the mains have been crept (though r4 hel revo says hi), but I think I prefer today's balance where a broader range of guns are good

actually I think maybe the only real sin of current vanilla balance is probably veruta

the hel specials are in a weird place and imo probably still too good

[wraith marsh]

combat shotgun:

[jade iron]

yeah that too

though it's checked a bit by range imo

still none of these specials are as cracked as the peak op specials

they're just generic guns with stats that are overtuned by some measure

they do warp the game a fair bit, but they don't bust game balance in half

[grim leaf]

im new to gtfo and would like to know what the general opinion is on playing with others without joining their discord vc?

[jade iron]

I don't play pubs, but imo the expectation would be that you'll still communicate, at least via in-game text chat

[grim leaf]

is that viable for the most part?

[jade iron]

yeah people use it

[thick temple]

if i've heard in the past right, they'll always want you to at least join the vc, but if you don't want to talk that's still fine

just put, like, "no mic" in your disc nickname or smth

[vestal crystal]

If you don't join the vc channel then people keep hopping in thinking the lobby is not full

[grim leaf]

im fine with joining vc, its just im usually in another vc while i play, chatting with other friends who are doing their own thing

[vestal crystal]

Unless they move to a 3 person channel

[jade iron]

it's a game where you'll typically need to plan and coordinate with other people in order to overcome challenges

I've seen people try to treat it like an idle podcast game or whatever where they fire at enemies and don't pay too much attention to what's going on or whatever, which doesn't gel well with the demands the game places on you

[hollow merlin]

drg might be a similar game where you can go no-mic and still cooperate well with the team
otherwise, yeah, you'll want to have a mic unless you're fine learning the in-game communication presets or solo carrying

[grizzled bison]

verified proof that the person with (no mic) in their username is the solo carry

[jade iron]

yeah but also in the ingame chat,

solo carry (no mic): GET IN THE FUCKING SCAN

[grizzled bison]

Their username is also something like Tsopu

Or welsey

[grim leaf]

thx for the info o7

[torpid rose]

[Information Gatherer] Gerzhull

[unreal crystal]

Rick is the boss damage

[sharp siren]

Barghest its gtfo propaganda

No such thing like holding x4 ammo only for himself

While the team ita out of ammo

[glacial anvil]

yo

where's door to zone 86 in R6D1

i can't find it

at all

[unreal crystal]

Dude he was convinced that you can still one tap occi strikers

it was actually so painful

[near light]

i got a funny cursed picture of my rundown, can i post it anywhere?

[pine root]

I have a werid bug where my hammer can occi strikers ???

[unreal crystal]

it’s called boosters

[pine root]

I can’t let you have one

[sharp owl]

Downstairs middle of the map

[ocean hearth]

does is

how the

how much harder are the x levels

than the normal

ones

that

aren't x

[pine root]

just think of them as one tier harder

[ocean hearth]

so the bx is like the c2?

[normal lake]

AX felt more like a low c tier when i did it

i cant speak for bx or cx tho

[rose nova]

ax is like yeah c1 or so, bx is c3 or so just main
cx is a d tier

[normal lake]

all i got left in r6 is bx, cx, d2, and d3

not really sure what order to approach these in other than d3 dead last

[rose nova]

u can probs do bx rn

and do cx, i guess after the ds?

[normal lake]

mind you ive done all alternative objectives on the levels not mentioned above

im prob gonna save d3 for last cus the pe is prob gonna be rough

[outer lantern]

Ok what are the X levels

or is that just meaning the entire tier

[sharp siren]

Stamina killed tsopu

[unreal crystal]

I think og r3b2 solo killed him friend

[normal lake]

Rundown 6 has some extension levels atleast thats what im guessing the X is which are listed as a, b, and c, tier

[vernal nebula]

Just lost R1B2 at 98% extraction because the bot died lmfao

[sharp siren]

I really doubt the bot kill the run

Have you tried killing the wave before you head to extraction

Works 99% of the time!

[vernal nebula]

We were stopping inbetween waves, the bot went down a few feet from the extraction zone. Revived it once and it immediately went down again

[sharp siren]

Bots dont enter extraction scans

Its a bug since forever

[vernal nebula]

Good to know

[sharp siren]

If your dping something that doesnt require a teamscan

Then never worry about the bots survivability

[vernal nebula]

I've cleared the expedition myself anyways so not a huge issue

[sharp siren]

Only yours

[frosty aspen]

Hello!
Just got the game and beaten the tutorial and the very first rundown "The Admin".

How viable is the game solo with bots?

[glass wharf]

Depends on the level

[frosty aspen]

I know further rundowns are gonna get harder, so I'm wondering if I can still make it with bots only

Or should I search for a constant party?

[vernal nebula]

constant party is always preferable

[gusty burrow]

Beating some levels with bots only is pretty unfeasible, some levels heavily rely on the players splitting up and clearing different parts of the map at the same time

[vernal nebula]

I've heard most folks say at least 2 human players and 2 bots should be enough for most of the rundown 1 missions

more is always better of course

[glass wharf]

Yea that sounds accurate

All of R2 is pretty much impossible solo though

[frosty aspen]

Thank you for the info. I'll consider making some friends then ^^

[vernal nebula]

#lfg-beginners has been really easy for me so far as a new player as well. I'm sure you'll find some luck there

[gusty burrow]

If you can find some others who haven't seen much of the game, then this game is truly a unique experience blind

[sharp siren]

2 player 2 bot its good for 99.9 of rhe levels

Aside from r7e1

Once you get the basics down and undertand some of thr mechanics youll be good to go

Solo not advisable

[vernal nebula]

Yeah I have the most fun when I'm not being carried

[sharp siren]

Only stupid people play woth bots only

Not azert tho

He chill

[sharp owl]

Its decent as long as you are experienced also have nerves of steel

[sharp siren]

😳😳🤯

[sharp owl]

[sharp siren]

But yeah nerves of steal and probably having a lot of patience

But just get people

[glass wharf]

How'd u do R2D1

[sharp siren]

Game its better with people

Its a coop game

[frosty aspen]

Gotcha. Thanks!

[sharp owl]

Good knowledge of the map also efficient use of fog repellers

[glass wharf]

The bots keep swapping out fogs for lock melters

[sharp owl]

I forgot bout that

Rip

[rough robin]

R2D1 is a major pain in the ass with bots cause of this

Any inf. fog-centered level

[glass wharf]

Idk why even

Fogs are always just better pickups

Having them prioritize locks over fogs seems like a strange choice to me

[sharp owl]

Devs made bots pick lock melters a high priority so good luck getting them to pick up anything that isn't a foam nade

[sharp owl]

Well complaints been filed
Nothing yet
Big snoozer

[rough robin]

One of many strange choices in this game

[sharp siren]

I was gonna go on a rant on why they prioritize it

But i forgot i already did

[pine root]

go off again queen

[sharp siren]

Nah bish

[pine root]

loop gtfo chat

one more time

[sharp siren]

So heavy smg

😭😭😭

So kiting its a way to cover the personal skill issue some players had

[sharp owl]

One more time 🎵🎶

[sharp siren]

So checkpoints should be limited

[normal lake]

honestly i always forget the bots even have fog repellers

but when they have lock melters they use them automatically

so i personally prefer it this way

Would be nice to have a way to set prefered bot pickups to set them up to your own preference

[glass wharf]

I don't 😭

[sharp siren]

Also you say i change my pfp all the time

You change like 20 profiles

[glass wharf]

In a perfect world they would pick up what you ping

[sharp siren]

I cant keep track if im talking to you or other person if you took someones identity @pine root

[pine root]

i didnt want to be girl rick

for ever

[pine root]

just put a note on me

[normal lake]

in a perfect world they dont put bullets in your back and they stand in squad scans

[rough robin]

if only

[glass wharf]

I don't trust bishop to not put a couple in my head "by accident" so I line them up in front of me at all times :^)

[rough robin]

it still astounds me that the bots can FF with how often they choose to sit right behind you

[normal lake]

i can handle most problems with bots but the squad scan issue by itself is the reason i hate running with bots

i run into that issue almost every session i have using bots

[glass wharf]

Comparable with the amount of times I shot the bots because for some reason they decide to sprint in and out of my cone of fire during waves

[sharp owl]

Too much work for the 1 person working on the game

[glass wharf]

🤨

Idk if this is a meme or serious

[sharp owl]

Actually serious

[normal lake]

I need a mod that makes bots not necessary for a team scan

r6d1 we literally kicked the bot for the class 6 because it was easier without it

only reason we had to use a checkpoint on that level was bot insisting standing in squad scan wasnt necessary

[normal lake]

sadly serious

[glass wharf]

I thought r8 was gonna be the last rundown

10 chambers already swapped to working on that other game?

[normal lake]

it is the last rundown

in fairness they have been rereleasing old content with tiny modifcations for literally a year and a half

its been plenty of time for development on r8

even with such small focus

[rough robin]

feel like most of their devs are on cyber heist

[sharp owl]

Payday 3 with extra steps

[rough robin]

that's what we need

[normal lake]

all i know is ima be sad once im at the point where there is no more content for me to do in gtfo and i dont have a really fucking fun co op game to play

[rough robin]

another heist game 😎

[rough robin]

literally any sort of modifiers/achievements/ a list of challenges would help alleviate this IMO

more replayability

add some insane ass challenges that would keep even a top tier team struggling

[normal lake]

ima be real

once im done with most of the main levels and alt objectives ima be done with the game

to me this game doesnt have the replay value for something like that cus the blind experience is the best experience

[rough robin]

oh then yeah that's tougher

modded rundowns is about it

some of those are good, some are absolutely batshit like fatal experiment 2

[normal lake]

honestly modded rundowns generally are to hard for me

I dont really enjoy anything harder than high d tier

eventually it feels more like a slog to get through rather than fun and thats about where the difficulty peaks in fun for me

[glass wharf]

Need an infinite dungeon

[modest spoke]

agree to disagree
I haven't run old rundowns via modding but I remember how hilariously hard r6c1 was

[glass wharf]

Would be fun for a bit

[normal lake]

Difficulty and fun for me is kinda a bell curve closer to lower tier levels than higher

[modest spoke]

they kinda nerfed it Really hard

[normal lake]

you can fuck around and have more fun with A-B tier

C tier you gotta play pretty decently but its still fun to fuck around most of the time

easier d tier levels you start lose that fucking around part of the fun

[glass wharf]

I have fun when there's a giant I get to use my sniper on

[normal lake]

e tier levels there is no fucking around, there is no fun, there is only suffering

[rough robin]

i wanna play old rundowns at some point to see if the "they nerfed this so hard" is real or just bs from people who weren't as experienced back then

[modest spoke]

if you get people with frontal lobes as your team mates you get to have "co-operative" fun

[torpid rose]

hes lying about the etiers

[sharp owl]

I would say same but 99% of my playtime is with bots

[modest spoke]

oh no old r6 was harder lmfao

[normal lake]

I do is the thing but when it comes to multiplayer games i just prefer a more chill experience

[glass wharf]

Is this a rundown specific thing

[modest spoke]

then why are you here

[rough robin]

that's kinda the point though

[glass wharf]

Cause me and a friend wiped the lower R1 levels pretty quickly

[normal lake]

With singleplayer I genuinely love difficult games

[rough robin]

E tiers are supposed to be everything the game can throw at you and the kitchen sink

[modest spoke]

no offence but difficult is literally on the front page

[rough robin]

even with the r6 Silly Sniper?

[normal lake]

Because A-D tier isnt difficult?

I am talking modded rundowns

i dont wanna bother going into mods because im not interested in upping the difficulty

just not my personal idea of enjoying the game at that point

[sharp owl]

R6 sniper

[modest spoke]

it might have made it a little easier
but c1 was-
hoo I tell ya, fun times. it was hell but we look back on it fondly

[normal lake]

i remember the classic r6 sniper

quite goofy

[thick temple]

not every rundown mod is pure difficulty spike
the duo ones i've played personally generally have a pretty-close-to-vanilla difficulty progression

[rough robin]

what made it harder?

[thick temple]

some people out there really are there just making cool experiences, not cbt

[normal lake]

Not saying they will be, but its still just not my interest

[modest spoke]

the moving scan was glacial and I believe the waves were bigger and shorter cooldown

[normal lake]

I dont really enjoy easier levels C and D tier is the shit

creme de la creme

[rough robin]

personally E tiers are really fun for me they're like a puzzle in themselves

KDS Deep being absolutely cream of the crop E-tier mission

[normal lake]

yeah i get it

[modest spoke]

which reminds me I need somebody to help my ass with those lol
you NEED people who actually know how to play this game and it's "co-op fun"

[normal lake]

its just a bit to much for me to dick around with

[modest spoke]

if you have average brainlets the game doesn't stay fun because you're all stupid and keep setting off the rooms and just ending up dying from general dumbassery

[normal lake]

Like i cant blast my friend as he gets to extract late on an e tier level while proudly saying "long live the king" and then expect to not regret that

[modest spoke]

you need the big smort and three others with that to keep it fun

[rough robin]

ironically KDS deep you actually can

and maybe R4E1 too if you're...risking a little more

[normal lake]

If i ever got into mods it would def be with a mod improving bots significantly and would just be done mostly as duo with a friend

[glass wharf]

😔

[rough robin]

there is a mod that improves bots but it makes them grossly good

[modest spoke]

careful you'll set off the seasoned players

[normal lake]

For me vanilla bots just need to have some tweaks like no ff, and something to make them stand in squad scans

[raw shard]

If you wanna balance bots you'd have to let them also be able to wake stuff but there's clearly a problem with that too so there's just no good way to make them better lol

[normal lake]

Just minor fucking annoyances like that

[rough robin]

i would bet any seasoned player would agree with me, that mod is too strong

[raw shard]

They just kinda suck and you have to deal with it

[rough robin]

this would be infuriating imo

[sharp siren]

Old r6 sniper 😭

[raw shard]

Exactly

[sharp siren]

Literally a better pump shotgun

[modest spoke]

I meant about modding lol

[raw shard]

I 100% agree better bots is fucked up lol

[sharp siren]

Wich mod

[normal lake]

Bots being to good aint what i want either

[rough robin]

better bots

[sharp siren]

Bitch pls

[modest spoke]

apparently the devs are "ok" (don't want anything to do with but don't smack ban people about it) with mods, but the seniors in this game do

[normal lake]

i just want something that slightly improves them in the points where they suck ass

[sharp owl]

Greatly exaggerated

[rough robin]

no way dude

better bots is ridiculous

[sharp siren]

Just because your not used to having something work doesnt mean its broken

[rough robin]

literally sitting on my phone for class 6's on r5 while they mow down everything

[sharp owl]

Absolutely

[sharp siren]

Your used to their shitty bad programming

[glass wharf]

What does that mod do

[rough robin]

the programming fixes is good i just think the mod cranks their accuracy/aggression too high

[sharp siren]

Look at vermintide

Theyre like decent players

[rough robin]

I LOVE that mod's aspects like better bots will actually back off of dangerous revives

[sharp siren]

Nobody say theyre a cheat

[sharp owl]

What's the difference between players mowing down enemies n bots doing it

[rough robin]

bots never miss

with that mod

[raw shard]

Bots can do it silently lol

[sharp siren]

Yeah because they have no self control

[rough robin]

they genuinely have like a 95% accuracy rate on the head

[raw shard]

They just took all the silencers

[sharp siren]

And i have like 80%

Pretty on par

But even then they die on harder levels

[rough robin]

idk man i think bots should be good but not absolutely cracked out, able to carry players through levels they're clearly not able to beat normally

[normal lake]

Imo bots shouldnt be able to do stealth but also shouldnt wake rooms, the state they are in currently for alarms is good enough as they dont have a problem with fog or darkness

[sharp siren]

Ttheyre not inmune to gtfo mechanics

[sharp owl]

Yeah doesnt mean they are too good
They still are motionless AI

[normal lake]

I really just cannot stand doing any alarm with a squad scan with them because they are fucking liabilities

that is my only major issue with bots

[glass wharf]

I mean

Does all the mod do is make them accurate?

[normal lake]

ive lost more runs then i can count to bots not standing in squad scans

[raw shard]

No it allows them to do stealth killing and just clear rooms for free

[rough robin]

fixes various issues/stupidity in their logic, and make them insanely accurate/ aggressive (shoot more often)

[glass wharf]

Cause if it fixes their bioscan bug then it's probably not too hard to just isolate that behavior

[sharp siren]

Theire not agressive

[sharp owl]

If you got skill issue they won't carry you
It just makes the bots reliable at the one thing they do
Shoot the enemy

[glass wharf]

And make it a separate mod

[sharp siren]

Theyre just not suicidal

[normal lake]

thats boring af why would you want a bot to clear rooms for you

[sharp siren]

Withr melee

Like

Wtf

[raw shard]

Because people are lazy ig lol

[rough robin]

that's a good change but I def feel like better bots don't have the odd pauses regular bots do

[sharp siren]

Vanilla.bots are equally as accurate

[rough robin]

even when enemies are rushing them

[sharp siren]

I wish i wasnt at work

[pine root]

someone

explain to me

[rough robin]

you cannot say this with a straight face

[sharp siren]

I woulda school yo ass

[sharp owl]

They just shoot lot less but you know

[pine root]

Does preloading do anything

[normal lake]

I agree there are some other minor issues with bots like them pulling out melee when something gets close

[sharp owl]

Opinionated

[normal lake]

but i dont think they need seriouus changes beyond making them a little less stupid

[sharp owl]

Saves time in some cases

[rough robin]

fix all their dumbass logic and bots would instantly be way more viable

[raw shard]

preloading scans?

[normal lake]

more intelligent sure but not more accurate

[pine root]

how

[pine root]

yeah

[raw shard]

It doesn't save any time lmao, people just do it because it feels faster

[gusty burrow]

You almost baited me with the name change

[pine root]

i stay on theme

[sharp siren]

I know

[sharp owl]

Eg
R6d3 main door scan after ovl error
You open door faster

[glass wharf]

Have you seen the vanilla bot aim

[sharp siren]

My man

[glass wharf]

A silver 1 from csgo could do it better

[sharp siren]

Im literally the bot guide

[thick temple]

i'm sure no one cares but
imo the biggest issue with better bots is using them and not distinguishing that you use them when doing 1p3b runs
get an easier run and not distinguish that
like having boosters

[rough robin]

real

[pine root]

literally

less than a wave diffrent

[normal lake]

I dont care if bots get better man i just want them to not be buggy as shit

they are substitutes for players

not players

[sharp owl]

[rough robin]

maybe one day bots won't try to revive you when there's 10 enemies swarming you

but today is not that day

[thick temple]

yeah imo if there was a mod that made them actually consistent at standing in scans then bless that thing

[glass wharf]

Sometimes they get plot armor I swear

[raw shard]

I think all that really needs to change about current bots is them standing in scans lmao

they're fine otherwise imo

[glass wharf]

Giant would be smacking me on the ground instead of killing the bot that's reviving me

[normal lake]

this

[raw shard]

Though I never really use them so what do I know

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rough robin]

at least you can disable them for that but you shouldn't have to

[sharp owl]

Just take ur time you'll see

[normal lake]

Losing runs to shit out of your control completely ruins the fun of the game for me

me and my friend stopped doing duos because of that exact reason

[sharp siren]

Sadly scans bug its not fixable unless we get mono

[raw shard]

I feel like bots probably shouldn't have FF either lmao

they just blast the shit out of you when they feel like it

[sharp siren]

Its mot like they feel like

Its just like sentries

[normal lake]

I can handle ff because unless you give them high power weapons its mostly chip damage its still frustrating tho

[rough robin]

i have so many clips of me sitting still on a reactor and the bots post up right behind me to start shooting

[sharp siren]

They target aqquisition then start shooting

[raw shard]

Yeah but sentries don't randomly walk behind you and blast a scattergun

[sharp siren]

Yeah because bots are sentries that move

They literally have the same AI

[normal lake]

ive shot my friends a few times but mostly because of them walking in front of me

[sharp siren]

Except they can shoot on all 360°

[normal lake]

"Im using sniper dont go in front of me"
not even 10 seconds later friend is down from me putting a 50bmg in his ass

[glass wharf]

Does the bioscan make them shoot faster

[raw shard]

bots need to chill with the bio too lmao, it's nice they tag 2s quicker than the actual bio cooldown but they do nothing else while tagging

[sharp siren]

You wish

What rhey need to do

Its remove that door spinning shit they do

For stupid inmersive people

Because that actually makes tjem delay

[normal lake]

Honestly just reduce the range, remove FF, and make them stand in scans or not be required for scans and suddenly bots are in a state id consider good enough

[raw shard]

Yeah fairs

[glass wharf]

How do Better Bots perform on fog levels

[sharp owl]

Oh it's taking the piss now
fuming while waiting for the bot to step into the scan

[rough robin]

oh no

[glass wharf]

Same I'm assuming since they don't take damage from fog?

[sharp owl]

Yes

[rough robin]

don't know if that mod changes their pickup priority

[glass wharf]

Man I'm about to write my fuckin own

[sharp owl]

Nope

[normal lake]

literally played for 4 hours as a 4 man the other day, friend dcs mid alarm gets replaced by bot

bot doesnt stand in team scan

we fail

[sharp siren]

It doesnt change anything but what it say it does

[glass wharf]

There's NO way changing pickup priority is that hard

[normal lake]

fuck bots

[rough robin]

nope it's probably literally a list

[sharp siren]

lmao

LMAO

Pls.do join

[sharp owl]

There some good laughs to be had with bots

[sharp siren]

And help my man easterunit

[raw shard]

Just play with your slots set to players only

then bots wont replace when someone dcs

[normal lake]

Its not something you actively consider when setting up a lobby

[raw shard]

I just always have it set to that lol

[normal lake]

usually we play with a single bot and he happened to be in the players and bot slot

[sharp siren]

Bugged since og rundown 6

Hard to replicate

Nobody knows why since theres many instances that it should and it doesnt happend

So its a mix bag

Kinda like checkpoints

[normal lake]

mostly because finding a 4th player is like finding a golden egg meanwhile having no bot mostly is more detrimental than having a bot

[sharp siren]

Dang really

[rough robin]

bot bio got me actin strange tho

[sharp siren]

#how-to-matchmake

#lfg-north-america

Crazy

[raw shard]

Usually 3 person lfgs get filled instantly

or well

looking for 1s

[normal lake]

Literally

Even if bot bio gets nerfed to player radius and cooldown ill still prefer a bot on bio over a player any day

[glass wharf]

IS THE RADIUS BIGGER???

[rough robin]

way bigger and 360

[normal lake]

the worst bot is more consistent than the best player because those mfs never drop the tracker i swear

[glass wharf]

bro I thought I just sucked at scanning

I would pick nothing up

[normal lake]

its disgustingly bigger

[glass wharf]

Put it on the bot

Bot is scanning the map

[normal lake]

bot might aswell have full map coverage

shits insanely large

[sharp siren]

Its two rooms

Not really a radious

Afaik

[normal lake]

so its room based

gotcha

[sharp siren]

Just detects everything within 2 rooms

[glass wharf]

That's insane reach tho

[sharp siren]

Because biotracker

Have a two room limit

[glass wharf]

Considering the player can see about 2 inches in front of their face

[normal lake]

didnt know exactly how it works but its def 1 milx better

[glass wharf]

With the scanner

[sharp siren]

You can see that on one of the lab tiles

On biotracker limit

The players biotracker its a cone

[modern coral]

Does bot bio have infinite range, though?

[sharp owl]

Its hard to judge where they are for humans

[sharp siren]

Technically yes

But bio have limits

Like i mention early

Due to optimizations

[modern coral]

Yeah, just wondering if bot could reach the opposite end across two long rooms.

[normal lake]

wanna make bot be like normal players make them only able to scan same room because thats how i feel every time i use bio

[modern coral]

That is insane if so.

[glass wharf]

My bio be hitting real different

And by hitting I mean not hitting any scans ever

[normal lake]

literally i dont think ive ever scanned more than 5 enemies at once during a alarm unless they where literally on top of us

[sharp siren]

Use bio at chokepoint

[normal lake]

i had no clue bio was actually good on bots originally but on players might aswell be a waste of a tool lmao

[glass wharf]

Kinda hard when I gotta park my ass in the team scan

[sharp siren]

Thats how you get value

[rough robin]

it's not that bad

[normal lake]

using bio to get info on whats in a room is never really that useful since stealth aint a big deal

[sharp siren]

Just because your bad with bio doesnt mean its a bad tool

😭

[rough robin]

player bio gives info bot bio can't

[normal lake]

its ok for invis

[rough robin]

have you played the E tiers

[normal lake]

not really super necessary imo

[wraith marsh]

if youre being sarcastic we cant tell

[sharp siren]

My man got the crappiest takes i doubt he got an e tier done yet

Yeah im stsrting drama

[normal lake]

Lmfao pov i have a opinion

[rough robin]

if I didn't have a biotracker on R4E1 I think I would off myself

and this is coming from someone who will avoid bringing bio any chance he gets

[normal lake]

gtfo players try not to gatekeep opinions challenge: IMPOSSIBLE

[wraith marsh]

love saying the tool that literally spends nothing a waste of tool

[glass wharf]

🤨

[normal lake]

Thought i typed tool slot

My bad on that

[wraith marsh]

I assumed thats what you meant and said that anyways

dw

[normal lake]

Unless its on a bot usually as a 4 man i find more often then not bio just isnt super necessary

[wraith marsh]

the only argument for replacing it is for another sentry, in which case you will just run out of tool

[normal lake]

its nice if you can get it on a bot

[wraith marsh]

SO the only waste ends up being the 50% you start with

[normal lake]

I dont even remember the last time i ran cfoam but thats usually what would take the bios spot

[wraith marsh]

in which case uhhhh fuck you I like bio

👍

(not taking it tho I Make other ppl do that)

[normal lake]

If someone wants to run bio idgaf if they do but im not going to run it

[sharp siren]

Cfoam breaks the game

[sacred briar]

i could be shooting things instead of scanning them

[sharp siren]

Literally the strongest tool

[normal lake]

I dont refoam doors

[sharp siren]

Not only doors

Floors

Everythinf

[glass wharf]

It's also silent

[sharp siren]

Cfoam its the only tool thar can break this game inside out

[glass wharf]

So you can cfoam scouts and giants

[sacred briar]

https://tenor.com/view/guy-arguing-guy-talking-to-wall-talking-brick-wall-gif-18667615

[glass wharf]

(u can solo them with spears anyway tho?)

[normal lake]

Most of the time id rather have a tool that kills rather than a tool that slows

[rough robin]

most successful GTFO gif attempt

[wraith marsh]

mines are pretty op but they at least require a door

[normal lake]

used to do this

[sacred briar]

😔

[wraith marsh]

see, this isnt the surge argument

[sharp siren]

Its ok young prisioner youll know eventually

[wraith marsh]

in this case its not slows

its completely halts

[sharp siren]

My man dont know yet

[normal lake]

nowadays scouts are to easy to melee and giants are a joke but thats only cause lots of hours

[wraith marsh]

and then more shit groups for the mine

[hollow merlin]

ladders:

[sharp siren]

He didnt break the egg yet

[wraith marsh]

so it doesnt need to kill cuz you never take foam without mines

[sharp owl]

Ladder foam
Foam ladder

[rough robin]

i feel like I'm missing out cause I haven't c-foamed a ladder in my ~470 hours

[sharp siren]

NNOOOO

Azzert

[wraith marsh]

dw you arent grong

[normal lake]

bd tryna learn that tools are situational and that the 4 or 5 surge alarms in the game dont justify using it every map

[sharp siren]

😭😭

[wraith marsh]

youre living the higher life

[sharp owl]

🤐

[raw shard]

See the way waves work stupidly in this game is that the faster you clear a wave, the quicker you get more. you're literally punished for clearing quickly

[wraith marsh]

cfoam ladder makes the game boring as fuck if you have any knowledge of pathing whatsoever

[sharp siren]

Thats not what i say

[raw shard]

It's stupid and why foam is so good

[sharp siren]

You can use tools everywhere

You just lack imaginatiob

[normal lake]

Yeah i personally dont enjoy abusing spawn mechanics to make the game easier

[sharp siren]

Its somewhat patch

[normal lake]

generally tho i usually find mines to be a better pick of foam and bio on a bot is never a bad take

[glass wharf]

What happens when u cfoam a ladder

[normal lake]

having 2 sentries basically nullifies any normal alarm

[sharp siren]

The game stops

[raw shard]

enemies get stuck for a long ass time

[sharp siren]

Literally

[rough robin]

I heard people saying it absolutely breaks R2E1

[wraith marsh]

dont explain how to do it, just leave it here

[raw shard]

It does

[sharp siren]

It breaks everything

Cfoam its broken

[sharp owl]

Makes game blue screen

[sharp siren]

And the worst part of all its so easy to use

And with boosters and shit

Just too crazy if you know what your doing

And even then

If you dont know its just good on its basics

[normal lake]

just not my prefered tool

used to love foam

nowadays i find it boring

[sharp owl]

It does make lot of stuff trivial

Nice n also boring

[normal lake]

I dont refoam or foam ladders so its not like its op in my case

just not a tool i really enjoy using and god i will never give it to a bot

[sharp owl]

Just 1 big foamed door is op

[normal lake]

Throw a mine on that bitch and your gonna have a good day

[sharp owl]

It feels good

Lookin good

Sounds good

[raw shard]

Foam is fine, people who min max it annoy me lmao

I just throw a full charge and call it a day

[pine root]

i need to perma foam

[normal lake]

usually prefer mines of foam cus mines better for blood door

[pine root]

iT is in my bones

[raw shard]

I MUST do NINE BLOBS

[pine root]

it is the most fun

i can have

[sharp siren]

Foam its fine

Its just that

How door health works

[sharp owl]

Its 10 achually

[normal lake]

other than that literally the only reason i take mines instead most of the time

[sharp siren]

That kinda breaks it

[pine root]

you