gtfo-chat

[stone sleet]

Use something with high DMG for those assholes

Double tap or dme can get by

Dmr

Hel shotgun can melt one pretty fast at the cost of ammo efficiency

Melt 1 or 2*

Not a pdw guy but they tore that guy up

[rough robin]

Most if not all mains can kill a giant in one mag but you have to get behind em

[sharp owl]

something quite cool

double tap and DMR are the same weapon but with different configurations

im not sure about press mod

[oblique hamlet]

Ah man. It is the worst feeling to find out a rando party you were running with multiple maps had (a) cheater(s) in it

[junior latch]

they are not lol

unless you mean some weird irl stuff

[sharp owl]

i mean their models

[junior latch]

cuz ingame their stats are noticeably different

[wispy bluff]

Spear kills giant shooter in 2 occis

[sharp owl]

not stats, the physical model of the weapon

same reload animation, same layout

the only difference is like scope

[wispy bluff]

That is correct.

[sharp owl]

i like that the double tap can kill with one trigger press

[storm quartz]

Is that not a difference

[sharp owl]

it is

but functionally

[rough robin]

i wonder if the 75% charge speed spear nerf is a test

watch them put it on sledge

[wispy bluff]

The what

Sprint you mean?

[rough robin]

yeah

[wispy bluff]

I mean... You know what, that makes sense.

Yeah... YEAH

That is how you separate light melees from heavy melees!

If hammer will sprint like this too - dagger and bat will find themselves a purpose.

[sharp owl]

i doubt slight speed change for hammer would make people consider knife n bat

[wispy bluff]

People who like maximum speed possible definetely will.

[sharp owl]

that is not slight

[wispy bluff]

Their purpose is already being kill speedsters.

[sharp owl]

25% movement penalty

is substantial

[wispy bluff]

This will fortify that purpose even more.

[rough robin]

25% is def not slight

[wispy bluff]

Yeah, the sprint boost is so small - I almost don't feel a difference.

I it's basically louder walking.

[sharp owl]

yeah and that's a problem

it's only really useful when everything is already awake

[wispy bluff]

Make it maybe 35% and it'll be fine

[sharp owl]

what, nerf it more?

[wispy bluff]

No no, buff slightly.

[rough robin]

I'd say reduce it to 20% penalty

from 25

[sharp owl]

yeah right now it feels bad

[sharp owl]

what does 35% mean

i don't understand you

make what 35%

[wispy bluff]

Now I'm confused too.

[sharp owl]

i still dont think people will consider other melees tho

hammer would still be good even if they add a speed penalty to it

[muted cypress]

Spear can use a slight increase in range

[rough robin]

which kinda speaks to how ridiculously strong the sledge is

[sharp owl]

you stated "Make it like 35% and it'll be fine"

make what 35%

[wispy bluff]

I saw numbers in wiki chat l

Hammer sprint increases speed by 70% or something

Spear right now only by 29%

[sharp owl]

what

[rough robin]

what?

[wispy bluff]

They should try testing 35-40% range

[sharp owl]

what on gods dead earth

[wispy bluff]

I don't know maybe I misread it

[rough robin]

oh he's talking about % speed faster than walking

[sharp owl]

melee weapons give movement speed buff

[wispy bluff]

So forget it and fix it for me

[analog flicker]

Sprint speed?

[wispy bluff]

Wait, oh shit

I forgot: could you jump with a charged spear?

Because you definetely can now.

[sharp owl]

you could i think

not that it matters much

[wispy bluff]

It did just now

I tried to pen double hit 2 giants hugging each other.

I missed.

[sharp owl]

what changed about pen with the spear btw

if anything

couldn't you do this beforehand as well

[analog flicker]

Drag killing multiple

[wispy bluff]

I think yeah. I would occasionaly do it by accident.

Still.

Something to keep in mind.

Also is it me or AX is long winded as shit.

I feel like I'm making 0 progress.

[sharp owl]

after a long while of playing with every weapon i've realized that the hammer is the best because it doesn't have a downside

you never ever need to play around the hammer

[analog flicker]

AX should be pretty short unless they changed it massively

[sharp owl]

every other melee has a downside

[wicked solstice]

Wdym short

It’s like

Sidequest: the level

[earnest forge]

AX and B2 are probably a bit on the low end on this rundown.

[wispy bluff]

It's been 35 minutes and only did one alarm scan.

[analog flicker]

[sharp owl]

go this place do this stuff and then go back the opposite side of the map do stuff teleport then back then extract

quite long

[rough robin]

yeah

[analog flicker]

Is R6D1 still able to reactor skip?

[sharp owl]

it needs a downside

sprint reduction could be it

[earnest forge]

Yes

[analog flicker]

Crazy

[sharp owl]

thats the name of the game

[junior latch]

what

[analog flicker]

[sharp owl]

it'll take at least 50-100 hrs before you are comfortable with the basics

[kind ruin]

So you saying we some kind of GTFO squad?

[sharp owl]

so you telling me..
smacks lips
eats a skittle
converts to islam
we some kinda.. mufkin.. suicide squiaddd?

[wispy bluff]

Wait lmao.

I just realized it.

The new HSMG long mag is not because of increased bullets.

[kind ruin]

BIGGER BULLETS

UPGRADED TO .44 ROUNDS BAYBEEEE

[wispy bluff]

Thats how they fixed the reloading animation!

The hand was too low.

So they just extended the mag.

wheeze

[sharp owl]

utilize burst sentry

[gray pilot]

It’s the name

[rough robin]

best part is it still breaks

[sharp owl]

i noticed that too lmao

[rough robin]

the pack callout voice lines are really quiet

[viral stratus]

WHY DID THEY NERF HEL REVOLV.

BIG L

[sharp owl]

becuase it was very strong

[viral stratus]

bro

i though i was doing something wrong with reload

[sharp owl]

also they only nerfed it for the sweats

[viral stratus]

fuck that shit bro

[kind ruin]

Hands too sweaty

My man’s fucking up the reload already

[sharp owl]

it is kinda sad because i was kinda relying on hel revolver to carry me throug c1

probably can no longer do that

[rough robin]

guns still v good

[rose nova]

no yeah its still amazin

[sharp owl]

i just tried it out and yeah

it's not that bad

[viral stratus]

no more feelin movement with hel R in pocket. :///

truly sad

[lofty grotto]

C1 can be doable with Dmr/Sniper (if the level holds up the enemy count that is)

And with 3 bots

[sharp owl]

i kinda dont like dmr because it doesnt ohk strikers yes i know 0.1hp

thinking of taking double tap or hel rev there again

hel rifle is fuckin amazing for that level though

absolutely drills sleepers

[rose nova]

for c1 i would think hel revo is a lil bet better than double tap, since it has a bit more ammo and can pen, but its neither really

or u can go balls in for hel shottie for the stagger

tho, long reload

[sharp owl]

if its neither then what does a prisoner take to c1

[rose nova]

hold on

r1c1?

[sharp owl]

yes

[rose nova]

cause if so hel shottie, nevermind my comment hel shotties bad there MSKDMKM

[sharp owl]

reactor thingy

[rose nova]

but well um carbine could b a good one

burst rifle for the range

rifle

[sharp owl]

burst rifle and regular rifle are helf with contempt in my heart

i don't know what it is about them but they just don't kill shit

[rough robin]

burst rifle is

somethin else

[sharp owl]

in a good or bad way

[rough robin]

i don't like it

[sharp owl]

i used to run it

then i stopped

and i never went back

[rose nova]

burst rifle similar to carbine just w/o the mag but with the range n stuff, idk is a nice weapon but i can get it

but well um, pdw is still really nice

... thats all i can think of

[sharp owl]

we would have 100% success rate in missions if we could just take 2 specials

[rose nova]

bet, specially in r4e1 :3

[burnt flume]

so you're telling me I could take revolver burst cannon or whatever

seems fine

[mystic moss]

finally I can run dual revolvers

[rose nova]

scattergun sniper

[earnest forge]

Oh yes, even better

"How many bullets do you need ?" " 5 "

[sharp owl]

do melee weapons deal less damage when you're out of breath

i can kill a shooter with a half charge hammer but when i'm in at 180bpm the half charge doesn't seem to do it

i am hitting the head

[rose nova]

no, might be just like a couple microseconds off the charge

but they dont deal less dmg

[sharp owl]

strange

oh i see the problem

i was half charging them from the side

not the front

[wispy bluff]

@hollow quarry reporting a little issue with the final bit of AX - the lighting is all off, like everything is covered in oil.

[earnest forge]

On a side note, the performances are great ! (could be linked)

[wispy bluff]

Is it?

[cobalt arch]

Step 1: Cover yourself in oil

[wispy bluff]

AX was doing fine for me and then bam.

Something like 55 average and 75 if I look up

[earnest forge]

I did it just earlier and checked my frames because I used to experience drops in this specific area and the old "DX" one

Remained between 90 and 99 fps

Although it definitely looked more "oily" or "metalic" than I recalled

[wispy bluff]

Almost got eaten by AX finale. Almost.

[rough robin]

charging takes longer

when you're exhausted

[cobalt arch]

I forgot how braindead base game bots are

[rose nova]

they, good enough but not much ahead

[cobalt arch]

today I will run blindly for a revive straight into my death

all 3 funneled to me and all died to a giant instead of just shooting it

[rose nova]

ah yeah when the room isnt woken up they refrain from shootin it

they try to melee it

[cobalt arch]

also love watching them waste 40 bullets on a single shooter because they cannot aim for shit

[rose nova]

i mean that is just the shooters problem tbh i do that too with automatics

they have a lot of health for not-headshots

[wispy bluff]

Actually their aim is pretty decent. What guns were they using?

[quiet obsidian]

probably bullpup

i also learned

that if to many people have their flashlights on its actually bad

well at least for me

trying to shoot a giant with the sniper rifle

and three people turned their flashlights and they were all behind me

when all those flashlights turned on the giant vanished

[wispy bluff]

Fair lesson actuslly. Especially in foggy areas.

[quiet obsidian]

light distortion can completely vanish people and enemies

im also trying to figure out why im seeing double of every icon in the game

although im trying to figure something out

the 8 pronged orange hit marker means a kill right?

[sharp owl]

orange means kill

[quiet obsidian]

then im confused

headshot a giant and he lived with the 8 pronged orange marker, scared the hell out of me. I was in pimp slapping distance and died instantly the next moment

literally the team i was in heard me practically yell "What!?" before i died instantly

[rose nova]

did u had a hel type weapon?

[quiet obsidian]

nope

hollow point sniper

[sharp owl]

maybe client hitmarker shittery

were you hosting

[quiet obsidian]

i wasnt

[rough robin]

common hitmarker L

[quiet obsidian]

the giant took no damage

and i was like

[sharp owl]

so basically

[quiet obsidian]

Pending... then Panik

[sharp owl]

hitmarkers are sometimes wrong when you're not hosting

[quiet obsidian]

ah

thats annoying

but it explains a lot

headshotting a giant walking toward me

and he lived

although i am more than believing that was my error

i was having a lot of issues with the sniper rifle that mission

[lapis tree]

So is there a reason BX, CX, and DX all got shifted down a tier for Alt R6

[cobalt arch]

funny

[rough robin]

fune

[rose nova]

fun

and maybs just, being able to have a cool squared grip

[sharp owl]

What are these x things

[rose nova]

extension levels

[sharp owl]

What is an extension level

[rough robin]

way back in the day

[rose nova]

original rundowns sometimes came out, aand then some extra levels dropped

[rough robin]

they released rundown expansions inbetween new rundowns

[rose nova]

kinda like an extra

[sharp owl]

Okay

[rose nova]

u can see these on r4 anf r5, well u could

they were the ones that said EXT://

[lapis tree]

Are they easier now? I’m gonna be sad if DX is easier now

[livid gulch]

DX only easier if game is more optimized

[rose nova]

no yea the downgrade on the tier id say its just like how it looks

aesthetic

[lapis tree]

wack

i guess the ending of DX is r5 c tier but not compared to other rundowns

[wispy bluff]

1. People were complaining that they are not quite up to difficulty levels of their previous brothers, so from being the X1 they were effectively promoted to X4.
2. Someone mentioned it makes rundown menu more aesthetically pleasing / organised, since DX doesn't have to fight with other 4 D's for space and thus they don't have to zoom out.

[rough robin]

yeah 5 D's is a bit too much for any man

[wispy bluff]

There are also could be a lore reason, but i'm not sure about that one. Objectives are the same, we're just... Doing them out of order.

Either way A1, AX and BX done. This is the part where i have to start LFGing again because there's no way i'm soloing an uplink. Maybe.

Also i got the funny legs apparel. Never gonna use it, but hopefuly the less funny legs are out there as well

I haven't paid attention but: can you see your legs when looking down?

I don't think so, right?

[livid gulch]

in GTFO, yes

[wispy bluff]

Huh

ADHD strikes again

[topaz ridge]

r6 is out

time to get those cosmetics

[rose nova]

:D

[wispy bluff]

Acquired 3 so far - nothing good.

[rose nova]

yehh

i like the legs

[wispy bluff]

Great for clown enthusiasts though

[rose nova]

they funk

[topaz ridge]

i only need some palettes then thats it

[rose nova]

i am a certified clown >:]

[topaz ridge]

jorts

told my brother about it just now

he could show a little more enthusiasm....

[rose nova]

qwq damn

the unoptimistic for the pants

smh

[topaz ridge]

kovac fortis goes hard

with the kovac pro-car elites as well

[rough robin]

the operative drip

[vocal hinge]

hello guys we need 2 persons for R2A1, we are in the gtfo-20 vc

[mental mesa]

anyone trying to teach me the game

[rose nova]

hello, for both of u u can go for the LFG channels to find n share lobbies !

[rose nova]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[rose nova]

just some advice!
always ask to not be carried and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel

and if you are new be sure to do the tutorial first [Training] and start on rundown 1 since its the simplest one

[sharp owl]

he said the line

[floral herald]

skibbidi pump pump pump edge edge

[loud pilot]

skibbidi dom dom goon goon

[rose nova]

skibbidi pa pa parara

[floral herald]

iltr

[loud pilot]

iltr

[sharp owl]

What the fuck

[sharp owl]

thats what too much GTFO does to a mf

[sharp owl]

No

I reject this

I denounce this

[rose nova]

skill parara issue

[sharp owl]

I'm going to Alaska

[normal lake]

ill be stealing this thanks

[sharp owl]

steal deez nuts

im going to send Pablo to your house today

[normal lake]

hand em over then bitch

[sharp owl]

sure

enjoy

[normal lake]

gonna blend em

[sharp owl]

[spark falcon]

where are the voicelines for the missions, I miss them :(

[formal panther]

YEAH

[tough hedge]

[sharp owl]

WHEN R8

[rose nova]

no

[sharp owl]

Slendi

@pine root 1h 19m🤔

[pine root]

ours

[sharp owl]

Speed run full lvl?

[pine root]

no we just do the class 6

[sharp owl]

Ah the skip

Might try it with bots

[glossy egret]

bought the game tonight. just finished R1A1 with bots ^_^

[sharp owl]

Congratulations

Now 70 more expeditions await

[glossy egret]

thank you! hahaha! can they all be done with bots?

[sharp owl]

Yes except r7e1 (for now) but you need a lot of experience and also patience of a Buddhist monk

[rose nova]

most missions in the lower levels can b pretty hard to do with bots

[glossy egret]

ha! i have patience

i'll try R1B1 tomorrow. A1 took a while

[sharp owl]

Now just need 300hrs minimum to get the feel for the game and bots

[rose nova]

:3

yayy

[rose nova]

is ok b1 is kinda easier, as long as u know sneaks

[glossy egret]

set up takes a while with the bot commands

B1 is easier than A1?

[sharp owl]

Yes and no

[rose nova]

yeh a bit

depends on

ur skills

kdmskm

like what ur best with

[glossy egret]

i used sniper, bulpup, knife, scanner. the bots all had whatever and sentries

[sharp owl]

That's good

[rose nova]

noice

[sharp owl]

Although later you may wanna try different loadout

For now it's fine

[glossy egret]

i figured, i couldn't get the bots to do a lot of things so i had to take on the sniper and scanner

[sharp owl]

Its ok

[glossy egret]

thanks for the encouragement. headed to bed now. hopefully B1 tomorrow will be ok

[sharp owl]

Nighty night

[rose nova]

niniiii

[glossy egret]

https://tenor.com/view/johnny-depp-pirate-pirate-salute-salute-intergalactic-pirates-of-the-caribbean-gif-25016099

well that's a dumb way to display a gif

night

[sharp owl]

No perms unfortunately

[livid gulch]

haha L

[sharp owl]

Massive W-ang when

[livid gulch]

OwO

[tulip stream]

i just want everyone in this server to know that after 3 hours of attempting a mission, my friend fell asleep on the last reactor wave and SCREWED us

big lazy dumpling of a man

[torpid hollow]

hello

Hello, I am new, I would like to receive everyone's help, I am Vietnamese ^^

[hollow merlin]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[hollow merlin]

^ feel free to join any open #lfg-beginners lobbies or host your own

currently don't think any have open spaces

so might have to host your own

[rose nova]

just some advice when going to those channels !
always ask to not be carried, make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel

be sure to do the tutorial first [Training] and start on rundown 1 since its the simplest one

[torpid hollow]

thank for ur advice ^^

[rose nova]

is okiiii

[torpid hollow]

But are there any VietNamese people here ?

[latent palm]

[true pilot]

btw does anyone know what does the „updated intro video” change in patch notes refer to?

[hollow merlin]

there's some hallucinations or something for the intro sequence when you boot up the game I think

at least that's a difference I noticed

not just cli text now

[timber tinsel]

Isn't some crazy guy supposed to talk to me in R6A1?

[hollow narwhal]

yea I've noticed a lack of people talking to you in r6

[true pilot]

yeah schafer is silent

which is quite odd

but from what calle said its intended

[hollow narwhal]

there also isn't a lore dump at the end of b1

[rough robin]

i wonder

some doors are bugged too and don't even say "bioscan sequence completed"

really jarring going from alt r6 to 7 now

[hollow narwhal]

find it nice honestly

in r6 the talking stopped all progression

[rough robin]

I def think doorscan audio is better than terminal audio that requires the whole team to sit around a computer and not move or progress at all

an option to turn them off after completing a level for the 1st time wouldve been nice

[hollow narwhal]

yea

even then tho I felt like I was forced to hear a bed time story every time rather than figuring out game lore

[rough robin]

for teale's stuff yeah

but schaeffers i think was more important

[hollow narwhal]

I just appreciate the r6 changes

I wish they did it like r7 but eh, that would have probably broken shit

[rough robin]

I hate how much they cut dialogue

watching og r6, on the first teleport in a1 hackett yelling "Am I the only one seein' this!?"

alt? nothing. no reaction at all

[hollow narwhal]

damn yea I didn't notice that actually

man, now I'm thinkin of how many character moments are gone now

[rough robin]

they cut the interview reactions from r5

[dim totem]

Removed? Or just the next victim of poor QA testing

[hollow narwhal]

could go either way

[rough robin]

results the same

[hollow narwhal]

still gettin my c-foam phasing through doors

[rough robin]

i had that happen multiple times today

on c2

[hollow narwhal]

haha nahhh

rng on killing a run

[pine root]

how long have you played

[hollow narwhal]

you mean data-leak? I don't think it's been long enough for that

I guess it has been happening after a few runs tho

[dusky hedge]

lfg on all r6)

[leaden idol]

Have the story mission maps in Rundown 6 changed slightly?

[sharp owl]

Yes

[leaden idol]

so sad :/

[sharp owl]

Well it's for the better

Maybe

[dusky hedge]

sniper low attack in patch?

[green flume]

No

[main dome]

what pings do you guys find playable

[low wing]

AY!! Why Schaefer's voice lines gone?

[mint light]

no budget to record Alts

[low wing]

I'm pretty sure nothing was changed in R6

[wispy bluff]

Elaborate

[mint light]

an alarm here and there. voice gone

[wispy bluff]

Really? A1 is like a completely new level now, i couldn't recognise a single room leading up to the first alarm scan.

[low wing]

some rooms were revised but the core experience is pretty much the same

[wispy bluff]

Yeah, that's... That's the point.

[mint light]

as was with all the Alts

[main dome]

ping, in milliseconds
is 150+ playable

[wispy bluff]

Oh, that ping.

[low wing]

this game is playable up to 250ms in my experience

[wispy bluff]

I prefer not to reach triple digits

125 tops

[vestal crystal]

Wait

THIS IS DR. REBECCA STOKES is gone?

[low wing]

kinda impossible if you live in Asia and prefer to communicate in english

[vestal crystal]

😦

[mint light]

apparently, had no time to play myself yet. but it seems the voice recordings are gone.

[earnest forge]

Not gone, moved

[vestal crystal]

Moved to where

[main dome]

which is exactly what im worrying about

[earnest forge]

To a Terminal audio log in C tier if I remember correctly

[main dome]

i know the game but im on the fence about getting it because, asia and english

[low wing]

been playing with NA and EU peeps exclusively. You should be fine

[main dome]

wow, from asia?

[low wing]

yea, SEA specifically

[main dome]

i get like 165ms to germany/EU in general

[low wing]

that's already good

I get 165ms to west coast, 220ms to east coast, 250-260ms to west EU

east EU is unplayable

[main dome]

I see

[junior latch]

thats on you lol

unless you ignore the first room

then i guess

[wispy bluff]

Yeah, first room is mostly the same but side zones are radically different

Some room arrangements i haven't seen in my life

B1 though was a little bit disappointing. Virtually no changes. ... Was the scout room always lights-off? I swear it was lit before.

[gray pilot]

That was my favorite part 😭😭😭

[vestal crystal]

Me too. It was even better listening to it the 5th time I heard it (we checkpointed 10 times that part)

[gray pilot]

RESET REQUEST

[wispy bluff]

Although no, there was 1 change in B1 i noted. The door on the left when doing alarm scan for the cell. It used to be... I think there were this glass containers or something in front of it. Enemies would pour in and scatter all over the place trying to navigate them. Now there's a solid fence there that immediately forces sleepers into a tight and predictable choke point, unless one of them gets a funny idea to do a walk-around.

Also i had mines fail twice on me with the long doors on B1. Anybody else?

[vestal crystal]

Are they allergic to glass maybe?

[wispy bluff]

Its like the explosion gets eaten by the door and no one gets hurt.

People mentioned they "fixed" the door hitboxes.

Apparently they traded them. Guns for mines.

I dont know... Maybe i was unlucky and bots shot the mine prematurely again.

More evidence required.

[gray pilot]

I’ve read in the lore channel that they are allergic to light and drink your blood

The Nam-V Virus turned them into some kind of zombies

[vestal crystal]

Nam-Vampire virus?

🤯

[gray pilot]

🤯

I need to make a video about this

You’re a genius

[torpid rose]

Artek lets make some friends on cs2

[shut vapor]

Cs2 more like cspoo

[torpid rose]

relax

[sharp owl]

is the dmr a better version of the double tap rifle

it kills shooters in one headshot and strikers in 2

so it already does what the double tap does

but better against shooters

[spare sigil]

derriatives/alternatives

both can do things the other can't, but it doesn't make the other irrelevant

[wispy bluff]

No, not really. DTP can kill biters effectively instantly (duration of the burst) as long as it was headshot + body.
DMR needs that extra tap to finish the job and combination of fire rate and recoil makes it hard to do quickly.

Generally DMR is just better at range, while DTP is more effective at close to mid range engagements since it becomes easier to put the 2nd bullet in burst where it needs to be.

[earnest forge]

I have never used it much so far, but do you aim for upper torso and let the recoil shoot the second bullet to the head ?

[wispy bluff]

So I heard.

Aim for the neck and recoil will do the rest.

[gusty burrow]

I think also good is to aim for head and then recoil compensate down, personally I've found it to be more consistent

[gusty burrow]

If you consistently hit the one-burst with double tap then you get a lot more from it (more kills per refill, more kills per clip, faster kills in general). Key words consistently hit the one-burst

[sharp owl]

mhm noted

so basically i need to stop being trash with it

i consistently miss the one burst

it's just strange because you need to hit the head and then the torso with this weapon

[gusty burrow]

You only need to hit the one burst ~50% of the time to be ammo neutral with DMR, and that's assuming you're also hitting the two tap with DMR 100% of the time

[sharp owl]

oh, that's awesome then

I'm not sure how to aim because the bullets need to land in different spots

should i like aim at the collarbone so the recoil kicks up to their head

[junior latch]

Honestly, DTR isnt rly worth it unless you are giga cracked or love the gun a lot

[analog flicker]

👆

[trim sail]

the only level i feel like DTR is the mvp, is R5E1, where there's a lot of big enemies

[junior latch]

its good, but needs a ton of skill to be used well

[junior latch]

Whyd you take DTR for them

[sharp owl]

i just like semi autos :<

[analog flicker]

Hel revo/hel shotty would be better for giants wouldn't it?

[junior latch]

hel shotty by far

[trim sail]

DTR has the crowd control ability that i consider as top tier

[junior latch]

hel revo only if you get pen, but then again. Whyd you need a main for giants in that

sniper/hel rife exist

[analog flicker]

Crowd control??

[junior latch]

??

[sharp owl]

chinese crowd control

[junior latch]

a very precision based weapon with practically only 7 „shots“ per mag o.O

[grizzled bison]

Dtr has one of the higher dps being a burst

I can see where he's coming from

[trim sail]

good morning my friend

[grizzled bison]

But hel revo would probably get more value

[burnt flume]

I guess you can burst drag and maybe stagger 2 things at once

[grizzled bison]

The pen is very significant against bigs

[gusty burrow]

Carbine, HEL revo, pistol, sawed-off and HEL shotgun all higher DPS

[junior latch]

For giants, well dps does matter slightly here. If only hel shotty wouldnt exist. Or if DTR didnt need to reload to kill giants and then spend another mag

For smalls the dps rly wont do much since you wanna aim otherwise you waste most dmg

[analog flicker]

Sadly I am not familiar with DTRs reload speed

[grizzled bison]

It's nice to have range that hel shotgun can lack

[junior latch]

Vs giants tho?

[grizzled bison]

Yes

[junior latch]

dps is a heavily overvalued stat unless you fight stuff where you need to shoot a lot

[grizzled bison]

Versus giants it's nice to have range

[junior latch]

or i walk at 2 giants and murder both in 1 mag

talking about crowd control and giants

[grizzled bison]

I'm not saying you can't ape brain things

[junior latch]

then mentioning DTR is weird

[burnt flume]

Not in every situation

[gusty burrow]

If for some reason you want the range, carbine is still more ammo efficient and faster kills vs bigs, almost one clips them

[grizzled bison]

That's because carbine is carbine

[junior latch]

where do you get giants that you cant deal with special guns in r5E1 that you cant get semi close to?

Also the time it takes to kill a giant with DTR is legit as much as walking at it with hel shotty, killing it and walking back

[analog flicker]

sprays helpp at 10+ meters

[burnt flume]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

The giants won't always be together for hel shotgun pen and not every situation will allow you to waltz forward into 2 bigs

[junior latch]

Im not daying DTR is bad on spraying down a giant quickly

but choosing that and crowd control as the reasons for why its „mvp“ in r5e1?

[analog flicker]

Pen wasn't mentioned specifically

[junior latch]

pen isnt required for hel shotty to wreck them. Pen is a bonus

[analog flicker]

If they line up? Lucky

[junior latch]

eh its less line up being lucky and more them being in any way close enough to each other

[sharp owl]

it's pretty good

[junior latch]

its meh

[analog flicker]

The one time I used it

[junior latch]

iirc reload cancel is ok

[analog flicker]

It wasn't insanely fast. But it also wasn't stupid slow either

[sharp owl]

dmr and dtr have basicalyl the same reload

[gusty burrow]

DTR ~0.1s faster reload cancel

[sharp owl]

game breaking

[junior latch]

so fairly good if reload cancelled, nothing special

[gusty burrow]

Pretty similar, not crazy better reload

[analog flicker]

Me when I hear new people keep saying hammer charges so much slower than spear.

[sharp owl]

they probably just meant on destination where time moves faster

[gusty burrow]

It's nearly 6% slower to charge!!!

[analog flicker]

Hammer charges 0.1 second slower.

[sharp owl]

i know

[analog flicker]

Longer I should say.

[sharp owl]

wait isn't it 0.5

[junior latch]

What

[analog flicker]

But even then. In stealth for newbies. You aren't sprinting

[gusty burrow]

1.7 vs 1.8 full charge (though they both have a 0.2s delay before charging starts)

[sharp owl]

didnt know that

neat

[analog flicker]

Spear is better than what it used to be at least.

even though I made use of dodge jumps to move faster

I am curious if anyone else actually still actively uses dodge jumps.

[wispy bluff]

I sometimes jump to attempt to avoid licks, but it's more so a gut feeling action than anything actually trained and planed.

Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

[junior latch]

Yes, all the time

[analog flicker]

Even from watching some clips and etc. I hardly ever see people use it

[grizzled bison]

The dodge?

[junior latch]

Watch me play

youll see dodge movement and me dying

[analog flicker]

Using dodge momentum into a jump

[grizzled bison]

There isn't much momentum from it

[analog flicker]

Stamina gutted it. But the speed from it is still there for a split second

[junior latch]

ah yes backwards dodge jumps definetly give no momentum :|

You immediatly go full speed

[analog flicker]

Me who used back dodge jumps to outrun a teammate sprinting at me

they were trying to med me

20% gang never heals

[junior latch]

you can sprint jump away from enemies detection radius without alerting

Backwards superjumping with heavy objects

You can do it on locker pickups etc

[grizzled bison]

Superjumping?

[analog flicker]

I ironically do the opposite and sprint jump outside their detection to get closer

[junior latch]

sprint jump with a cell

[analog flicker]

Blackhopping as well

[junior latch]

but not hopping after. I mean thats how you start the bhops

[junior latch]

Same

[analog flicker]

Feels nice to know someone else actually does this.

[grizzled bison]

You can bhop as client to get as close as you want to a sleeper

[junior latch]

bhop chain without macro

[grizzled bison]

I do it all the time

[latent palm]

@analog flicker

[sharp owl]

oh my god dude

circle strafing is too OP

shooters literally can't hit you as long as you're doing small circles with movement

i was under fire by an army

[golden totem]

"the circle strat" so we up in here making up names for circle strafing are we

[sharp owl]

i didn't know what to call it

still, it's pretty absurd

i did not get hit a single time

by like 25 shooters

@rare stone what's a projectile bug

[rare stone]

it's a pretty common bug where projectiles like the ones from shooters don't do damage

[sharp owl]

well that's incredibly sad

[rare stone]

lol

[sharp owl]

i thought i was actually dodging them

[rare stone]

nah some of them were hitting you straight in the face

[sharp owl]

during that bug do projectiles that hit you stop or do they pass through

[rare stone]

they pass through

[sharp owl]

great.

:(

[mossy silo]

Me reading the patch notes like "Removed EXT label from R4-R6 extension levels" while also starting at my R6 menu and seeing the EXT label still there lul

[gusty burrow]

It means that they no longer appear in their own special EXT column

[mossy silo]

R6's extension levels still do lmao

And also by the label the devs meant the yellow tag that said ext next to the level name lol, it's gone in R4/R5 but R6 still has it

[vestal cave]

No fucking way
The auto sentry is now a hel sentry

Thought it would never happen

[junior latch]

they dont

but yea the ext name being there is probably what was meant with it?

[rose nova]

:D

[gusty burrow]

R6's EXT levels are still set to appear in certain spots on level select, so they still are in a column with each other, but they used to literally have their own special column way off to the right

[mossy silo]

Ah right I forgot about that

It's been years since I last took a look at it lol, but the EXT labels are still there

[gusty burrow]

I imagine they also meant to remove the EXT labels as well, but they did remove some amount of EXT-iness, so hard to be sure if what was done was all that was intended

[mossy silo]

Yeah that's what I figured the intended change was, but they only removed the labels from R4/R5, R6 still has every EXT label present on my mission select

[analog flicker]

Isn't that after like 1 hour of playtime

[latent palm]

No

Happens to me every 15mín

[severe skiff]

Me when r7C3

[analog flicker]

Warp gate hacks. Yall ain't the same

Dodging shooter shots? Impossible.

They must be hacking

[severe skiff]

U gotta use the hel revolver

It increases ur speed by 1.3x

This is true

[analog flicker]

I think I'll use Spear and not sprint intentionally

casually does Dodge Jumps to move fast

[viral stratus]

yo boys

This can't be posted because it contains content blocked by this server. This may also be viewed by server owners.

bruh

i met some lgbtq

u know what we do next

[rose nova]

be gay?

[viral stratus]

yessir

[rose nova]

[little ridge]

circle kiting was how people did some crazy stuff pre-stamina (and you can still do it tbh)

[burnt flume]

Nothing wrong with being queer

[analog flicker]

Me who has met many Femboy type guys here in gtfo.

[sharp owl]

Warp gate spawning Pablos in my lobby ban him

[sharp owl]

Warden.. i'm trying to sneak around, but i'm dummy thicc, and the clap of my ass cheeks keeps alerting the sleepers

[torn wedge]

hello there

[latent palm]

where fem bois?

[latent palm]

the fuq u mean hacks

[wraith temple]

where is the updated intro video ? I cant tell any difference

[rose nova]

:3

[rose nova]

is a lil part of the start sequence, where a vid of a dude with a pistol appears

[true pilot]

also i think the part where a scan of sorts apears in the middle of the screen is also new

and i think the red text on the top left disapears, instead of being there for the whole sequence

[latent palm]

@earnest forge GTFOing?

fr?

[earnest forge]

Nah, you saw nothing

[sharp owl]

you know exactly what he means

[latent palm]

?

idk

[sharp owl]

come on

use your big brain

[latent palm]

no idea bruv

btw @sharp owl

[sharp owl]

ya?

[latent palm]

love the new cat prf

i havent got a chance to say that btw

[sharp owl]

you finally noticed

changed it specifically for you

in honor of wub cat

[latent palm]

no

i did but i forgot to say

[sharp owl]

[sharp owl]

got any tips on like.. ammo management

i seem to be blowing through everything really quickly

[umbral cypress]

Hi Does the game is beatable in solo with bot ?

[sharp owl]

yes

[junior latch]

Yesnt

Lots of levels are doable but its not recommended since it usually needs experience

Not everything is doable tho. The game simply isnt balanced around 1 player

[kind ruin]

Is game funner now with r6 alt out

Is there a caveman RP group going on

[analog flicker]

No

My teammates keep scattergunning me

[true pilot]

take scatergun yourself

and just be faster

[mint light]

no

[sharp owl]

not the whole game but many levels

[wispy bluff]

In theory: yes.
In practice: you'll have to become a gamer god to do it.

A, B and C tier levels will be fine.
From D tier and onwards you'll start experiencing issues.

[mint light]

then don't say to a question if the game is beatable

[analog flicker]

Whole game is. But it's typically making use of kiting/cheese/bugs etc. Which can take hours / stupid amount of effort

[wispy bluff]

That's not even to mention various frustrations of actually playing with bots. The bugs, the AI lackings, the baby sitting.

[analog flicker]

Solo bots (no kicking of the bots and returning them )

[meager olive]

how's the game now with the new rundown?

[rose nova]

i like r6 a lot

[true pilot]

new - rather new old rundown

but overall the game is nice

alt R6 is fun

[meager olive]

tempted to get back into it

any new cosmetics >.>

[rose nova]

yes :]

lots lots

new masks n palettes n funky helmets

even two robo legs !

in only one cosmetic ksmdkm

[meager olive]

may have to hop back on this evening then

[wraith marsh]

You can try running accuracyshow for a bit as long as you aren't bringing a sentry

To see if it's a you problem

[glacial fulcrum]

Man.. the longest time I spent on a map I think it was like.. 2 hours and 10 mins ish.
It generally takes me 1 hour to complete a lvl.

[pine root]

If you are solo

There should be no issue

[sharp owl]

im not

(at the moment)

[pine root]

Then if you aren’t it might be your teammates

[knotty bobcat]

So the buffed stuff
Bullpup, Heavy Smg, Smg, Precision Rifle, Pistol, High Calibre pistol, and Auto sentry

Any worth using?

[wispy bluff]

All of them. Except auto sentry.

The ammo nerf was undeserved.

[knotty bobcat]

Gotcha
Am excited to try the High Calibre in Charger heavy missions, but not sure if I'd use it outside of that

[little ridge]

I still hate bullpup and I dont care about smg or hcp

[wispy bluff]

BP is like okay now. Heavy SMG is cool. Haven't tested the new P90 yet but I will.

[little ridge]

HSMG feels nice but perhaps that's just me

[wispy bluff]

Pistol was okay and now it's slightly better than okay.

Precision Rifle is okay. Back to its "no D sicking" days.

[knotty bobcat]

I used it.
And I don't feel a difference

[pine root]

Pistol and high cal stand out in the crowd

[wispy bluff]

High cal returned to glory.

[knotty bobcat]

Maybe I just gotta try using it at longer ranges more.

[wispy bluff]

Show chargers what you really think.

[wraith marsh]

Auto sentry sticks out

[pine root]

It does

[wraith marsh]

For the opposite reasons

[knotty bobcat]

It's worse now?

[pine root]

Yup

[wispy bluff]

Mor like same

[pine root]

By a lot

[wraith marsh]

Yes

[knotty bobcat]

Awesome

[wispy bluff]

It sucked ass and it still sucks ass

[pine root]

But now it needs more tool to suck the same ass

[wispy bluff]

Calle assured me they're working on it.

Probably putting a better lipstick on it.

[knotty bobcat]

Could've just given it the pen and called it a day

see how it performs

[wispy bluff]

Exactly

[wraith marsh]

Ye

[little ridge]

Did Calle say anything about the audiologs not playing?

[pine root]

Probs and we still would have made fun of it

[little ridge]

I remember him saying "looking into it"

[high ruin]

auto sentry is only viable sentry

[wispy bluff]

They're looking at R5E1 being worryingly different.

More supplies, different enemy composition and no one understands why.

[knotty bobcat]

Dunno how I feel about the bullet cost going up on hcp tho

[wispy bluff]

The forced audio logs being gone - AFAIK - is an intended change. Some people say you can find them in deeper levels on terminals.

[wraith marsh]

It's still less than r7

[little ridge]

IIRC when they added Alt R1, one of the R7's mission got fucked up like started spawning shadows or whatever

So it ain't the first time

[knotty bobcat]

is R5E1 bugged to be easier now?
Maybe I'd try to do it and finally finish a E level

[sharp siren]

Lore logs are gone

everybody party

🦀

[little ridge]

🍌

[pine root]

I understand why

They changed it

[sharp siren]

so instead of

tank we get snatcher

right?

[pine root]

Yup

[sharp siren]

so we cannot permafoam the end surge

that shit sounds troublesiome

[little ridge]

@pine root What do you mean?

[earnest forge]

Most of them at least. Schaeffer audio log from A1 is M.I.A, as far as I know. The others have just been moved

[little ridge]

Like, you think it's intentional?

[sharp siren]

snatcher can bypass door global cd

[pine root]

They meant to make these changes

There is zero way to do it accidentally

[knotty bobcat]

There's nothing in the patch notes saying anything about R5E1 changes tho?

[sharp siren]

theyre always lazy about patchnotes

[mint light]

@hollow quarry is still che king If it's intended, remember shadows on R7C2

[sharp siren]

like calle said

[pine root]

Correct

[knotty bobcat]

Ah

[sharp siren]

"We got dataminers doing it for us"

[earnest forge]

Calle has already replied that this is being looked into by the devs

[pine root]

That was a mistake because of wave vaules

[junior latch]

jish
dont say something like that when you dont have proof

[knotty bobcat]

That makes it sound like it's not on purpose

[pine root]

They added a fucking event

What do you mean

[junior latch]

the event couldve been smth different, who knows

[earnest forge]

I do not see any reason why it would be on purpose

[pine root]

I literally

Fucking see it

[knotty bobcat]

I dont know either

[pine root]

In the data block

[sharp siren]

is the event map in the datablocks?

[pine root]

On door open and on scan start are

[earnest forge]

They have never modified already released rundown content (unless Alt:// or bug fixing, of course) in the past

[modern coral]

Worth asking, is it possibly related to shutting off error alarms?

That's possibly a door event that might have gotten updated.

[pine root]

If it is this game is spaghetti

In c#

[earnest forge]

Just wait for an official answer ; it should come soon... In the meantime feel free to have fun in R5E1

[junior latch]

this, this, this

[knotty bobcat]

Last time I played R5E1 I got clapped every way till sunday

[little ridge]

What about the extra resources?

That could have been a mistake as well?

[modern coral]

^ Yeah, that's hard to change on accident.

Where are they placed?

[junior latch]

wait

for the official answer

[pine root]

In spawn

[junior latch]

yes

[pine root]

Not really the only way this is an accident

Is they used a bad branch

[junior latch]

99% all of it is a mistake or none of it
but saying it isnt is going off of 0% proof

[modern coral]

I could see the Snatcher thing maybe being an accident.

[junior latch]

bad branch?

[modern coral]

But it's stuff that's all fairly unlikely.

[wraith marsh]

Experimenting

Then accidentally keeping it

[green flume]

yea maybe wrong branch

[little ridge]

They built the alt r6 version of the game from a branch that was actually different from the one we had before I think that's what Jish means

[green flume]

maybe one of the version planned for alt R5 release

[little ridge]

And did that by mistake I assume?

[pine root]

Yeah only way it is an accident

[earnest forge]

Merging the wrong branch happens, who knows. Anyway, Calle will probably answer at some point ...

[modern coral]

Not really 0 proof, the datablocks work in specific ways that makes some changes more notable than others.

[junior latch]

ah
yea that could be

[pine root]

But tbh even if they did this is basically poor work

[junior latch]

no proof that it was an intentional change for current patch

is what i mean

[pine root]

Idk if a surgeon leaves a knife in you i don’t care if it accidentally or intentional

[junior latch]

thats a wacky ass comparision

[little ridge]

I assume this is fixable without fucking up alt r6, right?

[pine root]

Yeah

Just changed them back

It should be done within an hour

[junior latch]

ehhhh

i dunno about that

but lets hope its done on a patch soon

[green flume]

just a matter of would they do it

[pine root]

I could fix it in 10 mins

[little ridge]

an italian hour?

😄

[junior latch]

with nothing breaking?

[pine root]

without their map editor

[junior latch]

nothing?

[pine root]

Yeah

[junior latch]

aha

[pine root]

They just added

Events

[grizzled bison]

CODING ANDY

[pine root]

Just get rid of them literally change numbers

[green flume]

delete event
change blood door spawn
change back resource multi

[pine root]

Yup

[wispy bluff]

Free E clear, free E clear

[pine root]

You can even cntr f for the changes with the old patch

[green flume]

but I'm curious, why there is no level content changes to R6

[sharp siren]

because its a re-release

[green flume]

R1 changed D1
R2 changed E1
R3 changed D1
R4 changed E1
R5 changed C2 scan C3 error

[sharp siren]

[urban hollow]

R6 seems to have changed C1 pretty heavily

[sharp siren]

been pretty honest with you some minor changes i wouldnt put in the same vein as "content change"

[green flume]

C1 is mostly room changes

[sharp siren]

the qol improvements was good

[wispy bluff]

How hard would it be to mod in a different alarm music

[hollow narwhal]

the devs would send assassins your way

[wispy bluff]

Crap

[hollow narwhal]

yea sorry, just the risk you gotta take

[pine root]

I think it is built in to bepenix functionality

[wispy bluff]

I have no idea what that word means

(one Google search later) Ah, I see.

[pine root]

it is pretty easy. I am also telling you how to do it

[wispy bluff]

It's fine, I don't wanna learn unity at the moment.

[hollow narwhal]

what could possibly be wrong with unity

[wispy bluff]

Nothing, I just don't wanna learn.

Anything. At all. Ever.

Except lore. I love lore.

[hollow narwhal]

tru

[torn wedge]

dude the pit fight in r6c1 is badass
never got past b tier in thr original rundown

[wispy bluff]

I'm the guy who loots a piece of rock in a FromSoft game and goes "oh boy, can't wait to read what description of this one says"

[analog flicker]

"A new hand touches the beacon. Listen. Hear me and obey. A foul darkness has seeped into my temple. A darkness that you will destroy. Return my beacon to Mount Kilkreath. And I will make you the instrument of my cleansing light."

[wispy bluff]

oh no

[turbid vault]

hello?

I'm new

anyone available on playing?

[wispy bluff]

I will be in like 10-15 minutes.
Also:

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[open herald]

im available to play but im also new here. dont know how to use this place haha im thick. but also havent got much progress in the game either. want to find people to play with been matchmaking for 30 min XD

[wispy bluff]

Ingame matchmaking is dead, this server is the only viable way. Reffer to mod contact message above.

Reminder to check your Roles And Channels permissions

[open herald]

ah damn haha should of came here first then. and i will check my role stuff now

[wispy bluff]

Yeah it's not your fault, its just how this game is. I've been there too. I made it as far as R6C1 with random mm people until they went extinct and I had to come here.

God, I hate sensors so fucking much.

[hollow merlin]

voice comms makes the game experience a lot better imo honestly

not sure if mm people used in-game voice

[muted cypress]

VC is overrated

Voicelines are eternal

[hollow merlin]

part of what made drg boring for me, was that the non-voice comms were too good

people would rarely speak

and you just had people playing the game basically on their own

even though it's coop

[wispy bluff]

Implying that doesn't happen here

[open herald]

sadly dont know how to work it here. cant understand what to do. just feel lost while reading instructions. hope people have a good day just gonna have to solo the game

[hollow merlin]

yes

which is why I enjoy voice comms more

and encourage it

[wispy bluff]

Its really not that hard.
Go to #lfg-beginners , wait for someone to post R1A1 or something, copy lobby code, open the game and press the now appearing red "JOIN LOBBY" button.

And join VC if you can too, people will appreciate it.

[muted cypress]

Start with R6 honestly

It’s what most ppl are playing right now

[wispy bluff]

Its an option but replaying R1 and onwards will feel barren in comparison

No [spoilers], no [spoilers] and far less biome variety.

[latent palm]

[remote rivet]

SPEAR BUFFA?!?

[wispy bluff]

Yes.

[modest quartz]

Памагите!

[frigid badge]

I dont have a mic atm and I'm newer but I'm not terrible lol are people still willing to put ilup with that or do I just need to play solo with bots🤣

[mint light]

#lfg-beginners

say beforehand you are mute.

[frigid badge]

Gitchyq

Gotchya*

[mint light]

then see if the team accepts you

[hollow merlin]

most teams should be willing to accept you

[modest quartz]

PAMAGITE

[wispy bluff]

Где-то среди #hc-europe есть посвящённый русский коммьюнити-сервер. Попробуй присоедениться к ним - тут интернациональный сервер, только на английском.

[knotty bobcat]

The Heavy Smg fucks. Hard.

[rough robin]

they really did make it feel good to use now

[sharp owl]

should i run sniper sentry on r2d2

[hollow merlin]

it helps

[sharp owl]

will it help more than burst

we have a bio

[hollow merlin]

you're short on tool there (compared to ammo), so sniper should use less refill, at least from my experience

[wispy bluff]

Depending on where your squad likes to hold.

If your sight lines are long - sure, go for it.

[sharp owl]

usually we hold next to a door

[wispy bluff]

Just try to not shoot the same target it shoots.

[sharp owl]

without a big sightline

[junior latch]

Is the issue tool running out

or being overwhelmed

tbh in both cases just run burst sentries, maybe 1 sniper sentry at best

and if tool runs out too quickly just withhold 1 or 2 sentries early on

[rough robin]

where are you holding that doesn't give a big sightline?

the apex door worked for my group way back when I did it

[sharp owl]

like, you enter the reactor

and then the door on the left side as you enter

where they can come either from the reactor room or the stairs

[sharp owl]

overwhelmed

[junior latch]

Then sniper sentry wont rly help ya

is it smalls thats the issue or bigs?

[sharp owl]

well, im not really sure

[junior latch]

And where are you holding?

[sharp owl]

probably smalls

[sharp owl]

here

i do not know how to better describe it

are there like maps for each mission online so i can mark it

[junior latch]

i personally just recommend holding bridge as long as you shoot well the only issue will be hybrids

[junior latch]

Yes, but i know the spot so dw

[sharp owl]

ah alr