gtfo-chat

[turbid rover]

Now with graphics changed

time to restart and run it

[rose nova]

:3

[smoky nebula]

hola

[rose nova]

wenaaas

[smoky nebula]

the vc's do we just... join them?

when you see a vacancy

[rose nova]

um nope, thats against rule 7
if u wanna join or share lobbies, u can do it in the LFG channels

[smoky nebula]

yeah that's why

the invites to the vc

[rose nova]

ok my discord crash is fine

then yeah in there yeah

u can join em there

what u cant do is just join one w/o an invite

but if u see it in the LFG channels, go on ahead

[smoky nebula]

[rose nova]

just some advice !
always ask to not be carried and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel

and if you are new be sure to do the tutorial first [Training] and start on rundown 1 since its the simplest one

[smoky nebula]

spooky

[rose nova]

spoop :3

[turbid rover]

It runs well enough

And now to await people to join

[rose nova]

tutorial done now for the blood ah

much good luck usin the LFG stuff!

[rose nova]

same advice as heres

[crude jay]

Do I solo R1C1 at this point?

Nobody seems to be doing it

[rose nova]

u can always create a lobby for it
is also a bit lates, tomorrows friday

maybs u can b more lucky

[crude jay]

Why's that always the answer for every game?

There's no night owls?

[pine root]

no one

hosts r1c1

[rose nova]

qwq um
well some people work n stuff tomorrow so theres some, like me rn watchin yt but most r snoozin

[pine root]

cause it is lame as hell

host it and someone will join

[crude jay]

I mran i work nights as security

Like rn

[crude jay]

I mean, I have to finish it.

[pine root]

Then you need to host it

[barren tree]

Anyone know how supply efficiency calculates ?

If I stack them until 90/100% how does it count

[pine root]

100% gives double

[barren tree]

Like do I get 100% ammo from just a hit?

Oh

It’s just double

[pine root]

no it gives double the pack value

“It is just double”

[barren tree]

Like 20 -> 40%

So let’s just say if I just use a 10% supply efficiency

[sharp owl]

Ye

[barren tree]

It just gives me like 1%

[pine root]

It would do 20 — 22

[sharp owl]

20% *0.10 = 2%

[barren tree]

Alright

Thanks for the info

Is it good if I stack em

And play in a reactor level?

[sharp owl]

If you want

[pine root]

You don’t need them

[sharp owl]

You can stack em but its prolly a waste over 50%

[timber tinsel]

I'm happy to join! @crude jay

[onyx halo]

Has anybody had problems with crashing on startup or on mission start? Me and my buddy just got the game and its giving us porblems. Tech support channel doesn't have any answers and neither does the web. anyone else had this?

[pine root]

have you checked logs?

[onyx halo]

oh how?

[pine root]

%app data%

local low

10 chamberes

[sharp owl]

felt good to return

But no one plays with beginners

[timber tinsel]

I've had occasional crashes during drops. Twice total so far! No idea though!

[pine root]

and check version number

[crude jay]

Why

[crude jay]

Sure, vc 1

[barren tree]

Because we are not very good in managing resources

What if i just use 50% of em

So I can keep the aggressive ones

[onyx halo]

hey uh do I find the appdata in the files or something? I'm having trouble finding the logs

[barren tree]

40% for main and 60% for specials?

If I double em

[gusty burrow]

In your file explorer, type %APPDATA% in the search bar, then go from there

It's accessible without doing that, but often the appdata folder is hidden so it might require some other stuffing around

[onyx halo]

thanks friend

and from there I'll find the logs, do you know what I should do then? Or hopefully it'll be clear

[barren tree]

For r2d2

[gusty burrow]

Have a read through of the latest ones, hopefully there's a clear error message that explains the issue

[sharp owl]

My advice is get familiar with guns also practice gun shooting
Only use guns when necessary and balance ammo so you don't waste using refills

[onyx halo]

thanks bud

[gusty burrow]

Btw there's a more in depth guide on using logs in #bug-reporting

Steps there might help

[sharp owl]

That specifically don't use all the resources in the reactor room
Take some n leave some
Use resources from other zones when possible

[hollow quarry]

Had a meeting about that yesterday 😉

[rose nova]

i hope r6 gives me santonian stuff qwq i need to complete my santonian look

[barren tree]

We tried but mostly by 7 or 8th wave we had no more ammo’s and tool left

Like literally 0

[sharp owl]

What guns n tools are you running

[barren tree]

Smg +PR Smg shotgun revolver machine gun HEL shotgun machine gun

And also 3 sentries

Sniper sentries

[sharp owl]

Smgs are bad
Use pdw, carbine, hel rev, are for primaries
Pr is bad also
Take choke mod, pump, either mgs, sniper (for hybrids n giants) hel gun, rev, combat shotgun

Also u can do with 2 sniper sentries

And 2 bio

U also can take 2 burst 1 sniper and bio

Sniper for bridge burst for when enemies spawn behind you

[barren tree]

La

Ow

Alright

Thanks

[hollow merlin]

can lean on the left of the bridge to funnel them

staying a bit further from the door works better in my experience

[sharp owl]

[pine root]

RESET REQUEST TIME PLS

[barren tree]

Oh ya I thought holding near the bridge entry would be good but no

[jade cliff]

I keep trying to do r1c1 and it doesn't work because the server lags

literally things don't die and you get hit by invisible things

any recommendations for a fix

[latent palm]

you hosting

and things dont die is not right

[jade cliff]

so it's the host
ok

[latent palm]

youre heavily desynced and dead enemies stand still/get tagged on dead bodies

and enemies sync with host usally

[jade cliff]

alright, sounds good

[latent palm]

so you get hit (rendered by client)

[latent palm]

a pro tip

[jade cliff]

was definitely pretty annoying

lost several runs because of it

[latent palm]

try to defend on the bridge

it has a very good vantage spot to instantly become invisible towards smols

the "BUCKET" spot

do be sure that you dont have bots while doing that tho

[jade cliff]

l o l

yeah

our 1st run we just got clapped because we had no idea what the plan was
2nd run we died because everyone lagged and started dying while being unable to kill the things hitting us

[latent palm]

bots are pretty helpful on that mission

if you sit on a railing and stray out of their line of sights

just 3 sentries and 1 bio

[jade cliff]

3 sentries seems a bit troll

too little tool refills, no?

[latent palm]

no

quite the literal opposite

theres more than enough tools/ammo/meds

[jade cliff]

hmm

must've been rng then

there were only like ~3 tools within running distance

[latent palm]

the level is design

[jade cliff]

everything else was back at spawn

[latent palm]

for you and your teamto split

after the reactor wave is dead and timer for code entry and reset time for reactor

people usally do this on after the 4th wave is done

where youll get 1min 30s to sniff out those juicy resources

[opaque stag]

556 and choke gun are now my default

[latent palm]

hmm?

choke mod and?

[opaque stag]

the mini dmr

[latent palm]

i go by the lil names under their actual name

[latent palm]

rifle?

[opaque stag]

yep, thing staggers chargers with every shot

rifle is too ambiguous it should be called combat rifle or something

[latent palm]

nah

comparing to other mains

it is a self defense weapon none the less

i mean DMR/PDW is a step up

where youre not constantly reliant on your team and would actually go and hunt enemies of all sort

for me its PDW but DMR id say otherwise

[tidal jay]

I've never heard of anyone using Rifle?

Why not DMR?

[latent palm]

everyone has a fav gun

the rifle beats DMR as a support role weapon

[tidal jay]

In what sense?

[latent palm]

the DMR is a range nightmare if hit correctly

[latent palm]

close quarters

[tidal jay]

I'm guessing because of the scope?

Or are the numbers just better?

[latent palm]

like the pistol but packed with more of a punch

[latent palm]

like i said

no weapon is stat-check better

though some do

[tidal jay]

What does this mean?

Do they all have the same stats allocated differently?

[latent palm]

but the rifle has 5..08 dmg

[little ridge]

just call it rifle?

[latent palm]

which is a stagger when hit any smols

[latent palm]

oh hey beepo

[latent palm]

not that

it pretty simple to know

stat-check being a weapon/entity/mele/or anything that has stats such as hp-dmg-resist

that has stats that are overly high

[tidal jay]

Ah

Got it

Thanks mate

So about the rifle being better than the dmr

[latent palm]

for instance the pre nerfed burst cannon

[tidal jay]

Is that because it has better stagger?

[latent palm]

no

[wispy bluff]

Mor reliable

[tidal jay]

Brings a tear to my eye

[wispy bluff]

DMR is an extreme main weapon

[latent palm]

its 16 to 12 shots

[wispy bluff]

Every bullet weights like gold by main standards, better hit those headshots

[latent palm]

DMR deals 7.51

[tidal jay]

Headshot only weapon right?

[latent palm]

yes

[wispy bluff]

Rifle just goes "fuck off" and keeps shkoting

[latent palm]

its a headshot weapon

[tidal jay]

What if I'm pretty consistent, but not 100%?

Should I switch to rifle?

[latent palm]

up to you ofc

[wispy bluff]

Eh, don't know. Not that min maxed.

[latent palm]

we couldnt care less

[tidal jay]

But bringing dmr isn't trolling right

[wispy bluff]

No

[latent palm]

to a small map it is

[wispy bluff]

It's secretly one of the most powerful main weapons

But only if you now how to use it

Many people are disgusted by the fact that it can't oneshot a basic biter

[tidal jay]

Sorry, kinda tired. Could you explain to me why that is?

[wispy bluff]

It literally leaves them with like 0,1 HP out of 20 after a headshot

[latent palm]

DMR on lab tileset

[crude bay]

I like using maschinepistol 😶

[latent palm]

[tidal jay]

Huh?

[latent palm]

corners on corners on corners

MADNESS

[tidal jay]

Just melee them

[wispy bluff]

DMR is 7,5 raw damage and high critical damage

[tidal jay]

No but seriously, wouldn't any basic artifact be good enough to make it work? Same thing you'd do with Hel Rev

[wispy bluff]

Drekker 556 Rifle is ~5.0 damage and lesser crits

[latent palm]

we never count boosters

[wispy bluff]

In return you get lots more ammo in pockets to spam it

[latent palm]

for weapon

Ever

[wispy bluff]

And then you can downgrade it further and get yourself a pistol

[latent palm]

pea shooter

[wispy bluff]

It actually weirdly combines both worlds

[latent palm]

ye

[wispy bluff]

4 damage, but even more ammo and actually crits pretty well

Also insane hip fire accuracy, so you don't even have to aim it.

[latent palm]

a good support ngl

oh eva's here

[junior latch]

I wouldnt call it better

They have different values. Dmr is slightly better imo but rifle does different things better

[junior latch]

No lol

[latent palm]

yes lol

btw its finally FRIDAY

now i can drag you in

[junior latch]

i said thursday you doofus

[latent palm]

[junior latch]

i was waiting for you all day yesterday

[latent palm]

HUH?

[junior latch]

im busy today until in like 7 hours or so

Im free on the weekend sat/sunday

Also no, dmr isnt bad on normal maps

[little ridge]

maps backwards is spam

[junior latch]

its also a rly strong gun generally

[latent palm]

aight

you text me tmrow

when its literally was thursday 2Am for me

[junior latch]

[wispy bluff]

Also yes, this is a fascinating feature of DMR where literally any +Main DMG booster will send it from S to S+

[latent palm]

ffs

FUCK YOU TIME ZONE

[junior latch]

Thats on you

[little ridge]

I've suggested that the only thing I wanted out of DMR would be for the sight to be changed to a red dot or whatever but even that was "dumbing it down" for the DMR gang

[junior latch]

Honestly it doesnt need any changes

the scope isnt as bad as people make it out

[wispy bluff]

Clean the fucking scope

[little ridge]

I REALLY dislike that fucking cross-t thingy

[junior latch]

obviously quality of life could be nice

[latent palm]

i need exact time

[wispy bluff]

Boil it in bleach

[latent palm]

as rn

[wispy bluff]

Call a maid

[little ridge]

a cute one

[junior latch]

i could be free this time tmrw

[latent palm]

its 4pm i wana go gym

[wispy bluff]

It'll probably be one of the mimics doring the maid outfit...
shudders

[latent palm]

lemme look up german time

[junior latch]

Id be free the whole day from this time on tmrw

lol

[little ridge]

no a cute maid with glasses and large breasts and she keeps tripping

[junior latch]

Its 11am rn

[latent palm]

frick

not even free on a FRIDAY?

CURSE YOU NYQUIL AND MONSTER

[mint socket]

hey whatsup

[junior latch]

Im going to do stand up paddling with my mom

[latent palm]

sus

but okay

[halcyon leaf]

Sezz u

[latent palm]

sus

[halcyon leaf]

@north jackal he sus or nah?

[north jackal]

No sus here

[latent palm]

yes sus here

[halcyon leaf]

ඞ

[elfin canyon]

anyonekeen to join me

[wispy bluff]

We got special chats for that.
Like #lfg-beginners

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[wispy bluff]

If you don't see them - check if you have access via "Channels and roles" tab.

[elfin canyon]

Thanks mate

[radiant relic]

is everyone sleeping or what

[earnest forge]

I am barely staying awake at work

[latent palm]

Yes

[wispy bluff]

It's working hours in most of Europe

[dark belfry]

whats the fastest level i can load into to practice soloing giants?

[mystic moss]

r2b2

[dark belfry]

[supple tendon]

so uh

I'm a bit new to this, just downloaded and played the training mission, was great

now - not sure where to go from there

[terse swift]

rundown 1

area 1

[rose nova]

haiiii, well now is time for the first real mission >:3
u can start in order, in rundown 1 level A1

it is the most simple mission in the game, so u can go in either with bots or with a squad searchin in the LFG channels !

[supple tendon]

gotcha

[rose nova]

yeh, just some advice if ur gonna look for a team!
always ask to not be carried and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel

[latent palm]

@sharp owl

bae

R4E1

[sharp owl]

ok

😍

[latent palm]

hybird

[kind ruin]

.t lfgf

🥺

[kind ruin]

Why did I have to read this monstrosity

[rose nova]

what, cant stand uwu

??

or owo?

[young stone]

Can you c-foam tank
?

[rose nova]

yeah, but its usually not worth since it requires a lot and it lasts very little

[green rivet]

Best use with Cfoam trip mine

Only takes 1

[young stone]

oke

[silk blade]

The only good way to use mines is to place them randomly throughout an area so that you accidentally get caught in one

[rose nova]

um, idk i like more my other strats ksdmkm

[rough robin]

no crab's right

[tidal jay]

R8 to make prisioners being able to activate Mines

[rough robin]

it would be cool to run into environmental traps like undetonated mines from previous teams

[tidal jay]

If you can't ping because it's not realistic, I want to see my teammates blowing up their own mines

[earnest forge]

Any new environmental interaction would be welcome

Moving platforms / machines would probably be too much to wish for but...

[rough robin]

yeah

[silk blade]

R8 should 100% add brass knuckles.

your damage will be abyssmal, but the stun will be unreal

[earnest forge]

Knocking teeth out of strikers mouth

[last parrot]

a flail would be cool

[silk blade]

literally give em the one two lights out

[earnest forge]

I can definitely imagine using it while screaming "Dodge this you bastards" Mordhau style

[rough robin]

Eveningstar when?

[normal lake]

i need my doom eternal blood punch

[silk blade]

thats the charge attack, you do a big ol punch.

dont get me wrong i like the current melee, but i want some weirder picks

[normal lake]

more options is never bad

if new options where balanced that is

[rough robin]

I want a crash axe / machete

I don't think id use anything else

[silk blade]

i think a slashy type weapon more focused on damage could be nice

[rough robin]

in my mind it would have bat stats, but with much less stun, and horizontal swings

could cleave multiple targets

so if you lined up multiple headshots in a single swing, multiple kills

[silk blade]

could be cool

[earnest forge]

This issue I see with "slashing damage" weapon woud probably be that they need to change animations / effects

[silk blade]

kinda doubt any melee will ever be added

[rough robin]

yeah

[earnest forge]

We have a good distribution of weapons, but maybe some tuning would be in order

[silk blade]

ok well theres one that would be truly cool and set apart from the current 4

a pile bunker weapon

[earnest forge]

To even out just a touch the distribution

[silk blade]

specializes in just doing one burst of damage on a long charge up in melee range

m

r8 is gonna add guns if anything though

[wispy bluff]

Were honestly not sure about that one

We have 1 more unreleased weapon left and after that we got most basic gun concepts covered

[rose nova]

i doubt they dont launch anythin for r8, evry rundown has had at least one unit of a new weapon

[wispy bluff]

The only thing I still wish for is a slow burst mode rifle that requires holding on target for a while, rather than just acting as quirky semi

Burst Mode HAR... Pleeeease

Oh, and we're missing a bolt action like weapon

[earnest forge]

Like a Hunt Mosin-Nagant or Lebel ?

[wispy bluff]

Basically

[earnest forge]

The Sniper Rifle is not far from that

[wispy bluff]

Still mag fed

[earnest forge]

True

[wispy bluff]

There's an aesthetic to cranking your gun after every shot

[earnest forge]

I see what you mean

And I am also a fan of that cranking animation in Hunt :)

[wispy bluff]

Impractical as shit, but still lives within gaming l

Titanfall had kraber

What else is there left...

Projectile based weapons, but gtfo doesn't seem willing to do that.

[rough robin]

maybe could be balanced as a ~20dmg main weapon? high cal, but way slower action and less rounds

[wispy bluff]

More like an even heavier alternative to DMR

Even slower fire, even less bullets, but you can actually oneshot biters now

[rough robin]

24 rounds, 3-round internal mag (loaded round-by-round), 20dmg, slow fire rate but can oneshot grunts

thats my take

[wispy bluff]

I think the only thing were kinda missing is a close range slow full auto

Heavy SMG should technically be that, but it's still to fast and doesn't deal that much damage

Make it even slower, make bullets thicker...

[earnest forge]

Damage is quite decent, but the mag :'(

[burnt flume]

Too much effort, just give a Tommy gun and all the apparel to look the part of a '30s mafioso

[wispy bluff]

Something like Titanfall's, what was it... The funny smg thing that hits like a truck...

Alternator!

[rough robin]

saying "I believe ya, but my tommy gun don't" gives it a 20% damage bonus

[fossil rain]

What about a bow

[modern coral]

The in-game voice recognition we needed.

[burnt flume]

The sleepers wake up if you're talking over in game comms

[fossil rain]

Proximity gtfo sounds hella fun but stressful

[modern coral]

New sanity mechanic added.

You have to read out the character voice lines or you lose sanity.

Like a QTE.

Should substantially boost player immersion.

Especially when the place is large.

[rough robin]

this but unironically

[little ridge]

sawn off is already in the game 😄

[timber tinsel]

How is R5? I haven't started any of it yet~

What's the environment?

[rose nova]

ummm r5 is
hard :3
the new enviroment of it is very pretty, is like a water plant but, with less water

:]

[sharp owl]

Sewers with dirty smackin sleepers

[mint light]

Hardest rundown in the game

there you go

[sharp siren]

Longest*

[rose nova]

both

[mint light]

Both

[sharp siren]

Nah just long

[rose nova]

booth

[sharp siren]

Ok dora

[rose nova]

:[

[sharp siren]

La.exploradora

Porque no los dos looking ass

[analog flicker]

[kind ruin]

I for one am tired of people saying BBC

[rose nova]

:O

[kind ruin]

Just say giant charger it’s hard for me during stress to understand that bbc is big black chargers and not the other thing (television channel)

[wraith marsh]

holy shit a new development in #gtfo-chat

@pine root get the camera

[sharp siren]

You wish there was something new

Gtfo been on a timeloop since rundown 6

[rose nova]

tbf theres not a lot of times where u say 'here comes the bbc, new channel of course'
u say 'here comes the bbc, wheres the shotgun'

[sharp siren]

Just say charger

[rose nova]

i been dead but revived since the loop

also i will think is a small

[sharp siren]

I dunno payday 3 be wild

[kind ruin]

I’m a top DOM top AGGRESSIVE top

[wraith marsh]

its close enough, let me cope 😭

[kind ruin]

It’s just hard to understand bbc as an enemy and not a meme

[sharp siren]

I mean

If your getting images

Of you know

Black piineses

I think your prioritizing the wrong thing

[pine root]

True said this in r7

[kind ruin]

Look at my lunch post

[wraith marsh]

fuck

[pine root]

XD

[kind ruin]

LOOK AT IT AND REACT

[wraith marsh]

I wasnt around then

I take it

[pine root]

Nothing is new

Gtfo is stuck in time

[kind ruin]

Like tears in rain

Time to die

[low thunder]

Salve clã tem algum BR para que eu possa me juntar a partida???

[mint light]

You sniffin glue, with Alts we got: YELLOW glowsticks

[rose nova]

buenas, hay un server en #hc-latin-america

[wicked solstice]

i hope alt r6 has green glowsticks man

[rose nova]

i hope it has chair glowies

[pine root]

@sharp siren is.relaunching all run downs just making us more stuck in time or less

[wicked solstice]

i really hate the yellow ones

[kind ruin]

Why

[mint light]

Alt so: NO

[kind ruin]

I love yellow

[rose nova]

but piss glowies :[

[mint light]

Orange were the best ones

[wicked solstice]

i am going to use the glowstick recolor mod

[kind ruin]

I got my first actual paycheck I can spend

What do I blow 1100 dollars on

[pine root]

I am so glad lore chat has revels important differences of the time line because of glowsticks

[rose nova]

um
striker plushie

and a snack

a nommy glowie

[low thunder]

ahhhhh sii gracisas

[rose nova]

buena suerte man

[pine root]

I got myself a pizza and a new video game then just vibed for the night on my paycheck

[rose nova]

:3 nice

[kind ruin]

Idk my recruiter bought me steak lunch and job bought me African lunch so I have too much food

Maybe I should buy a second fridge for my leftovers

Oh I can buy a game

Or an iPad

[pine root]

You going to school?

[rose nova]

or a psp

[kind ruin]

Yes but unrelated

[pine root]

Na I would get an iPad a good one you could take notes on

was one of my best purchases for school

[kind ruin]

I was thinking iPad for that to

Reading and writing on there is great

[rose nova]

and a stylus
or a pen

[kind ruin]

I could start vaping ig

[rose nova]

w whu

?

[pine root]

Yeah plus you don’t have to deal with the origination of paper and you can keep detail notes

[kind ruin]

Huh

[pine root]

Wrong message

Reply

[kind ruin]

Oh hey the Samsung a7 lite is only 120$

[pine root]

Nice deal

[kind ruin]

Wtf why are iPads 400 dollars now

[sharp owl]

When you type c foam into gifs

[burnt flume]

With a url like that I am not clicking on that link

[sharp owl]

it didn't do the thing

[burnt flume]

Perhaps the one time I'm glad there's no embed perms

[earnest forge]

The thing doesn't do itself here

[sharp owl]

i cri

[timber tinsel]

I tried R7C1 blind with friend! We died~
Think another attempt later we'd do better with resources.

[rose nova]

r7c1 is so tough sdkmkm qwq

[timber tinsel]

We first didn't think about lifting the fog and died during the scan. Then later we didn't know we'd need the cells to open more doors, so we had to run back for them while being attacked!

[sharp owl]

2nd one

💀

[timber tinsel]

We are cursed and incapable of doing C's with bots~

[sharp owl]

Its all about experience

U can do the whole game with 2 players 2 bots

[rough robin]

r7e1 ready to make your life a living hell 😎

[sharp owl]

Rest of Cs n Ds gon be fun

[latent palm]

good run

[timber tinsel]

Other people can do it with bots. Not us!

[sharp owl]

Its about experience
You'll get there

beat r2d1 today, 4 scouts in one room and 3 more in adjacent rooms

I don't remember there being that many scouts

yeah no clue

wasnt that many in any of our previous attempts

luckily 3 were patrolling the same area in an area we didnt have to go down into

that also wasnt all the scouts in the level there was still a normal amount of scouts throughout the rest of the level

[rose nova]

sounds sus

[sharp owl]

idk

was fun

[rose nova]

well thats nice C:

[delicate frigate]

omg guys

are you excited for r6 alt??

i know ill be playing 10cc's gtfo when it drops!

[rose nova]

i am excited

[sharp owl]

hopefully its not just recolored masks that are released with it

aside from the completion one

if any even are

[rough robin]

the only good reskins are the camo dragonscale clothes

[sharp owl]

true

[rough robin]

those go hard

[barren tree]

Is it about the uplink if it’s the uplink then u are right

[sharp owl]

No

Gen cluster

R2c1 is not a Gen cluster

[rough robin]

that's d1

famous level 'statistics'

[sharp owl]

oh yeah thats it mb

[rough robin]

featuring such treats such as:

fog

[sharp owl]

a lot

[barren tree]

Depends on which area u go in

[sharp owl]

yeah we got nice zones for the cells

[barren tree]

This level is much more about resource management

U need to know which area has infectious fog and which have a lot of spitters

[sharp owl]

i mean there was a cell in 614 (the zone with a lot of supplies and requires a cell to open) so that was pretty nice

only really had to do like 1 or 2 alarm doors

614 saves lives
After triggering all the scouts with almost no ammo

🙏

as the designated scout killer of the group we didnt have to worry about that (natural spear dominance)

Eww Spear disgusting

all these haters

Hammer supremacy

imagine needing the luxury of sprinting while charging attack

Imagine handicaping yourself further

you call it handicap i call it fun

You have fun getting nailed when things go south

just dont get hit lol

only need half charge if you hit them in the head

Same as hammer with less stamina issues and speed

[ionic pollen]

Finally a fellow spear appreciater 😍

[sharp owl]

someone with a refined palette

at last

[ionic pollen]

Most definitely

So chill to just walk and poke

[sharp owl]

Spear enjoyers
Unprotected group activity

let the sleepers come to you why run at them

[true pilot]

laughs in using bat, the truly supreme melee

[sharp owl]

dodge with cover

Spear players when they get robbed can't chase charge

good thing i can throw it at them like a javelin

just as the founding fathers intended

[true pilot]

unfortunate that by the time you charge up the throw they will be way ahead

[ionic pollen]

HammerBonker: look there's a whole bunch of sleepers there, let's run there and bonk one

SpearPoker: no son, we walk there and poke them all

[sharp owl]

were too far ahead of these non-combat-spear-believers

[junior latch]

Spear users when they try to kill a single enemy but the whole room has already been cleared

[sharp owl]

meanwhile in reality were stealing everyones kills with our longer range

[proven steppe]

Do these general updates change how the guns perform in general

And would we get a patch note

[sharp owl]

yea theres always patch notes with updates

and its mostly just some balancing changes unless its guns being added back in

[normal lake]

if a spear user steals a kill from someone with a hammer than the hammer user is shit at the game

[sharp owl]

Womp womp

[sharp owl]

Its ok to fantasize

[hoary mauve]

just realized it says theres 4 achievements now and they say test achievements. So are they gonna be complete with rundown 6 release?

[sharp owl]

no promises for the time being

they may or may not be added

[hoary mauve]

ah

fair enough

[mint light]

Spear being good is indeed a fantasy

[sharp owl]

me a helpless hammer enjoyer waiting for my white knight spear chad to rescue me

[mint light]

Good fantasy, he won't be White where you live

[sharp owl]

thats racist 😂

[mint light]

Satire*

[sharp owl]

i guess we need to put warnings nowadays huh 🤔

[mint light]

Oh damn you got one too?

[sharp owl]

unrelated but yeah

in some other server i sent a gif of andrew tate n the staff went nuts

[mint light]

Oh no I got one for the incident with you 2 days ago....

Which made me laugh

[sharp owl]

obliged to like something but if u like this one guy, you've crossed the line

[mint light]

Oh you know if they say I am excluding you or something I just show a screen of my discord friends and steam friends ...... 😂

[sharp owl]

a stranger's validation> your freedom

some guy probably

[manic fossil]

What is yall guys favorite rundown?

[sharp owl]

r6 since its the one i started with

[mint light]

R4/R5

[little ridge]

R4 but I've to admit I find R3 charming

[manic fossil]

CAn you elaborate on that?

[little ridge]

R3D1 is fun R3C1 reminds me of alpha test map (because it's that with some modifications) R3B2 is... it's okay and short, R3A3 is an okayish short reacctor

[junior latch]

R3B2 is fun

[little ridge]

Or you wanted me to elaborate on R4?

Only map I dont like of R3 is R3B1 because it's repetitive

[junior latch]

agree

[manic fossil]

You seem pretty knowledgable. I have another question.

The gang and I just got GTFO and its our new weekly game with 2 4hr sessions a week. We're all new to the game and will only be playing with eachother. Which Rundown do you think is going to be the best introduction into the game?

[junior latch]

R3B1 is one of those uplink levels that are pretty boring

see R2B3, R2C1 (pretty much), R7B2 etc

[burnt flume]

Probably start off nice and simple with r1

[little ridge]

R1 is easier, R7 has checkpoints, R6 will probably be the best of both world IMHO if you dont mind on not finishing it

as of now yeah like Pachi says, R1

[normal lake]

nowadays its funny how you can start a shit storm so easily its as if you joined a flat earth society and started posting images of a round earth

[little ridge]

R1A1 is a bit harsher than R7A1 but whatever

[burnt flume]

It's better that way, maybe

[little ridge]

I mean only thing I believe makes it harder are the fact that it has a scout, really

[junior latch]

R7A1 would be the perfect intro if it didnt have the lore like that and the confusing "use the terminal in dat zone"

[little ridge]

But it has a res zone if they really need

[burnt flume]

Yeah

[manic fossil]

tate riles up the worst in men to justify his evil acts. He even came out as islamic. Judge prophets on their fruits and all that, most of the tate lovers seem to be overly aggressive nerds who are trying to overcompensate for being supressed by a society that has villified men.

[junior latch]

both alarms have harder setups

and r7a1 has diminished alarm

[little ridge]

alarm 1 of r1a1 has harder setup?

[manic fossil]

Gotchu so r7a1 is a pretty good entry point?

[burnt flume]

Half the difficulty of r7a1 for new players is recycle group a742

[little ridge]

alarm 2 I agree because it's class 4

[junior latch]

i wouldnt recommend R7A1, it is gonna be mildy confusing, especially since you probably should continue in R1 after that anyhow

[normal lake]

and? thats just how the internet runs

[little ridge]

But I think the first alarms of either are kinda the same? Even most new groups I see close the door and there's 2 scans

[junior latch]

@little ridge yes
It also could troll you for the class 4 if you dont open a door

[normal lake]

idgaf about tate the same way i could care less about any other public figure

[junior latch]

both are obviously easy but

1. the r7 alarm spawns are further out
2. the room you fight in is way more open and better lit
3. group scan finishes quicker for beginners than a split

[mint light]

R1 is the best entrypoint for the simple fact it's the basics

[little ridge]

I feel like they better learn those things in R1A1 than face worse but with checkpoints on R7B1

[junior latch]

i agree?

id say start on R1A1

[normal lake]

r7a1 honestly has gotta be the most uneccessary level in the whole ass game

[junior latch]

R7A1 is considerably easier tho

[manic fossil]

I'm not so sure we're looking for easier anyhow, we chose the game specifically because of its difficulty.

What I would like is a rundown that starts us out by introducing us to alot of stuff.

[junior latch]

you should still work up to the difficult parts

[manic fossil]

That happens as we dive deeper right?

[normal lake]

the easiest level in the game being in the second to last rundown is goofy af tho

[junior latch]

R7 will introduce a lot of parts, but you will get shut down super hard after 2-3 levels

Id recommend starting on R1
if it feels super easy even after the C levels then swap to other rundowns

[burnt flume]

Pick r1a1 anyway, more linear, less confusion, harder, better atmosphere and overall just a better place to begin

[little ridge]

"Trump..." goes the funny tv man, audience keeps their breath "...is bad and orange." Laughter explodes in the set, everyone laughs.

It's just like that

Media demonizes a lot of figures for a reason or the other

as a rule of thumb everyone can do/say something bad/good no exception

[normal lake]

politics and western media are clown shit and thats coming from my clown ass

[burnt flume]

Where's the demonisation of Musk

[little ridge]

And noone only does one of the twos

[normal lake]

you on the left, your evil, you on the right your evil, you in the middle your evil and a fence sitter, you dont care about politics your evil

cant win with everyone so i choose to be evil in the eyes of everyone

[manic fossil]

Yeah. It's all bread and circus. The matter of fact is the vast majority of anyone has little to no influence on anything at that scale. If we instead focus on adopting responsibility within our local domains. foster community and comradery instead of trying to assert dominance in the temporary now like a bucket of crabs we wouldn't have alot of the "issues" we're getting today.

@junior latch @burnt flume @little ridge Thanks guys for your input. I think we're going to start on R1A1 tomorrow. Glad to know the very beginning is actually a good place to start.

[normal lake]

im just at the point where i dont see any sense in arguing about it or fighting about wrong or right

[burnt flume]

If anything I'd blame the pursuit of wealth and power over working towards improvement for a lot of the problems

[normal lake]

most people tend to agree on most things with simply different methods and nowadays everyone is to thick skulled to take a new perspective

[burnt flume]

But it's not like you can just turn capitalism off or anything

[normal lake]

ye just current way of the world

[mint light]

R7 is not the hardest tho, youvwant R5 for that

[normal lake]

r7 has some banger levels but none of them are aggregiously difficult

altho its def a terrible starting point

[manic fossil]

Story of Lord of The Rings. Fundementally a Catholic work, at first unconsciously and later consciously says J.r.r Tolken
Basically everyone, even frodo the most resistant to; is susceptible to the corrupting forces of Power. It aint easy being cheesy.

[normal lake]

i hold damn near no real care about any poltiicians but gonna be real joe really is a resident sleeper

i like my naps aswell but sheesh

[little ridge]

sleep?

sleep.

[mint light]

yes you do like sleep

[manic fossil]

lol Joe. Dude is not even the same person its a different joe all the time. Pretty sure the dementia thing i just an act 😂 Man these circuses are clowns.

[normal lake]

ill take a resident sleeper over whatever the fuck trudeau is tho

[mint light]

I miss the real politicians, like berlusconi

[manic fossil]

Thats like asking whether you'd like to be shot in the left foot, or the right foot.

[mint light]

@little ridge agree?

[little ridge]

Il Cavaliere

[mint light]

A man who liked living

[normal lake]

isnt that all politics

[little ridge]

calling Merkel slurs and getting away with it

[normal lake]

live in a communist "utopia" and starve to death or live in a capitalist "utopia" and slave away for the fiat dollar

[mint light]

I also miss Sarkozy

[normal lake]

shhhh you cant think that way in a public space

[sharp owl]

i often forget that we are supposed to please others

[mint light]

Meh I enjoy my 26 weeks paid leave

[normal lake]

i often forget how to please others

being a dickhead is in my blood

[manic fossil]

Being good to your neighbors is just good business. If you want to pretend to be an alpha male and constantly try to assert your dominance through petty and minor dominance contests you just end up pushing people away from you. I think thats one of the biggest problems we have today in our cultures. Pride.

[normal lake]

irl my persona and way of holding myself is completely different because irl people tend to be far more reasonable and enjoyable to speak with

that and simply since i have to interact with those people

i delete my discord account and suddenly i have no contact with anyone here

[burnt flume]

Pride/toxic masculinity/clinging onto whatever other silly ideals you have for dear life and trying to enforce them, I suppose

[manic fossil]

Yeah. There is a certain level of politeness necessary to engage socially. Unfortunately that just means the new mode of violence of aggression isn't physical or masculine. Its subterfuge, innuendo, gossip and reputation destruction. We can be polite and civil while holding a dagger behind our backs

[normal lake]

honestly ive given up on anything beyond self improvement

[manic fossil]

Do you pray?

[normal lake]

im athiest but i read the bible

dont believe in god but believe in strong moral values taught by the bible

[manic fossil]

Well, where do you think the Morals come from?

[normal lake]

its a concept and a personal idealation. what is morally correct and wrong differ depending on who you ask

[manic fossil]

The bible whether you like it or not establishes a framework for honesty and truth. Heck, the very first University was the University of Bologna, Italy circa 1088.

Conscequentially it establish objective truth, not subjective truth.

Ipso facto there are Objective Morals, and not subjective morals dependent on time period or circumstance.

[normal lake]

greek morals are the ones i relate to the most personally

[manic fossil]

The original bible was written in Koine Greek. FYi, neat fact.

[true pilot]

why is there a moral discussion in gtfo chat

[manic fossil]

@normal lake Do you mind if I ask you what greek morals you are trying to emulate?

[true pilot]

what happened here

[normal lake]

no clue but somehow this has been happening to me a lot and im starting to wonder if its my profile

[manic fossil]

Has one of the most based religios figures in fiction as his pfp.
has scripture in his bio
is suprised people talk to him about Faith, Religion and Morality

[normal lake]

I personally have studied the readings of aristotle and epictetus a lot over the past 3-4 years

studying on stoicism is one of the better moves i made in terms of self improvement

[normal lake]

bro joshua graham is a fucking legend

it deleted my status ig it was a quote from him

[manic fossil]

Christianity contains alot of stoic philosophy as well. Stoicism promotes Virtue and Moral excellence, it promotes temperance (eg self control and self discipline), it even talks about accepting things we cant control and accepting higher authorities. Epictetus calls it the natural universe, Christians call it god. Both philosophies also promote altruism, understanding and compassion because it fosters stronger communities and is beneificial to long term planning.

[normal lake]

yep

its all quite interesting

altho the bible is a very long read and will take quite a while before i really get far with it

[manic fossil]

But, all of these are people and people are fallible. What really makes the bible go hard is Christ.

[manic fossil]

Have you seen The Chosen? Its a pretty based high production value retelling of Jesus as he gathers his 12 apostles and their adventures.

[normal lake]

no but im against having it read to me by a preacher or in the form of a retelling

im reading it for self insight

not for someone elses thoughts and own imposed ideas

regardless this is gtfo chat if you wanna continue the convo lets move to dms

[manic fossil]

Yeah I was at first too.

[sharp owl]

being good with people is fine but some take it to the next level and are entitled

[manic fossil]

On your intellectual journey be advised Islam, the quran the hamid are all beyond stupid. full of circular, incohesive, contradictory logic

[normal lake]

yep all of which i intend on reading

but first ima start with my own parents religion

[manic fossil]

Everything is grist for the philosophers mill, when we get the message hangup the phone.

|| and touch grass ||

[normal lake]

speaking of touching grass

its fuckin 8am

[manic fossil]

Could you elaborate a little bit?

[normal lake]

bout time to go grab some food

[manic fossil]

Enjoy your breakfast, God bless brother.

[normal lake]

will do

[rose nova]

why is this the gtfo chat

[sharp owl]

cuz general chat is cancer

[rose nova]

oh yeah cutie stuff is much worse thn religion talks oh yeah

this seems like the dinner with the family where i bring up politics and the drunk uncle starts fighting about the terrain the family owns

[burnt flume]

Eh the discussion was pretty chill

[normal lake]

was gonna say there wasnt a arguement or anything just a conversation

[rose nova]

ah, fairs
then i have nothin to say i guess

[normal lake]

dont think we ever disagreed either

[burnt flume]

Pretty cool as well compared to the :3 kind of discourse that makes you wretch on occasion

[rose nova]

:3

[burnt flume]

It's sick when you can have a civilised discussion on something interesting

[sharp owl]

the demand to believe what the other person believes, there is this guy that told me i need to hate putin and also not be hateful toward the lgbts

[burnt flume]

Though I have a feeling that talking about gender would go badly, though I find that stuff interesting

[sharp owl]

all in one madness package

[rose nova]

i like havin convos but this type take my social energy too fast

[burnt flume]

Fair

[rose nova]

10 15 minutes and im already like 'well yeah i agree we move on'

[normal lake]

last one i had like this went on 4 hours

only reason i cut it off fast here is cus im starving and about to leave + pub server

[rose nova]

hooooly hell, idk how yall do that

[burnt flume]

I'd say you should absolutely denounce putin for what he is, a criminal warlord
And that it's stupid to judge someone simply based on the fact that they're lgbtq, there's good and bad people belonging to every group

[sharp owl]

very shallow assumptions

there are far other things US presidents have done yet people glance over em

[burnt flume]

Yes, nobodies hands are clean in war

[sharp owl]

for me to acknowledge something i need to make sure you arent preaching what the opposite

[manic fossil]

Ideologies can be restrictive, causing individuals to become fixated on their beliefs and resort to forceful means to spread them. It's a common struggle for everyone to some extent. How open are you to truly understanding opposing views, considering they might have validity, and letting go of your own ideological attachments?

[burnt flume]

However it still stands that Russia is a mafia state

[rose nova]

u can agree with one not puttin aside the other

[last parrot]

theres a whole Wikipedia page on inhumane misdeeds conducted by the cia

and thats actually terrifying

[burnt flume]

Obama drone striking hospitals is something that comes to mind, and then any number of anything that are on the tip of my tongue

[rose nova]

good thing its not my country, mine would never do somethin so bad ha haha ha haha... uh...

[manic fossil]

It might but they have a pretty based history. Up until the point a certain ethnoreligious demographic invaded their country and prosteltyzed marxist ideologies on the working class which led to the upheaval of the existing aristocracy and the death of millions.

[burnt flume]

Fucked up stuff has been done in the pursuit of science, and other reasons

[sharp owl]

if the arguments are well presented and are logical then im more than happy to acknowledge, a buddy of mine we disagree a lot on politics yet we still dont enforce each other's beliefs

[sharp owl]

we dont talk about those

[manic fossil]

The tricky part is knowing when your beliefs should or are worth being enforced.

[burnt flume]

Any belief is fine as long as you do try to impose it on someone else or use it for the basis of discrimination

[rose nova]

i just do it to annoy people, ik i wont change most of their beliefs cause other people have tried and i dont have anythin new to say, so i just have fun

[burnt flume]

Basically don't be a fuckin idiot and everything will be alright

You can hold that belief if you wish, but it is an indisputable fact that such contact with children is morally, socially and legally wrong, ruins lives, and the list goes on and on

I should have also specified that beliefs not endangering anyone in my message, that's on me

[sharp owl]

outside of law and what holds society together nothing should be enforced

[manic fossil]

That is a good point. Just curious though is this a value that it is morally wrong consistent in any circumstance and across time? Or are there some instances where it would be ok to do so?

[sharp owl]

it depends on who you ask

and what is their judgement based on

[manic fossil]

Well I want to ask you. Same question.

[burnt flume]

I do not believe there would be any situation where it'd be OK to do such a thing

[manic fossil]

I completely agree. Well said. Could we say that this an "objective truth" One that is consistent across any and all circumstances?

[burnt flume]

You could name it an objective truth, but the meaning of that phrase could vary depending on person

[manic fossil]

It may vary from person to person but that wont make it any less correct or Objective. For example if I write 2+2=4 on the board, and a third of the class says thats wrong. Does that mean their perspectives are valid?

[burnt flume]

A mathematical proof is supposed to be inscrutable, if they have a valid proof showing how 2+2 does not equal 4, free from mistakes, then their perspective would be valid

Although you're always entitled to your perspective, an error in judgement could be behind it

And then when you are corrected you see where you went wrong, or rather what the right truth is

[manic fossil]

Fair enough, though this is much harder when we have ideas, principles and abstractions. The "meta" physics if you will. Pyschologists solved this problem actually, much like how we have our 5 senses to percieve reality around us, pyschology will try to use atleast 5 different credible metrics to quantify something and determine whether or not is "true"

[gusty burrow]

While this is a civilized discussion, it is also one that is not about GTFO. We do ask that you keep things on topic in this channel, if you want to continue the discussion, please feel free to use one of our other channels.

[manic fossil]

Welp, the Roman guard has come to shut down our illegal "gathering" in the town square. It was fun and thanks for the participation everyone. It's not often we get to have proper discussion without it turning into a petty dominance contest of screaming monkeys.

[rose nova]

this is such a, funky thing to wake up in the mornin tbh

the roman guard heh, lmao

[gusty burrow]

I think it's also worth mentioning (given some parts mentioned in the discussion) that discussions of a sexual nature are not permitted anywhere on this server.

[burnt flume]

Yea that was definitely an uncomfortable topic

[gusty burrow]

We have some nicely labelled town squares, and this one is the town square for GTFO stuff.

[rose nova]

one does not smoke in front of the gas station, even if u are far away

so well, just gtfo

literally, hit game from 2021 gtfo

[manic fossil]

Yeah it was, but it was relevant to the idea of beliefs and objective morality.

[rose nova]

so machinepistol right

[gusty burrow]

hot take, I think machine pistol might be second best take for R1A1 solo

[burnt flume]

Machine pistol is a thing I guess

[gusty burrow]

after carbine

[burnt flume]

I uh, idk about that one

[gusty burrow]

better than hel revo specifically for r1a1 solo

[burnt flume]

I can see why you'd say that but I've found dmr to be great

Like I understand the application of machine pistol but the thought is horrifying

[rose nova]

the thought is a crazy persons take, but it is loads of fun

tho dmr in a solo run? and specially of a1

idk i guess i never tried it

but it seems like u dont have a lot of range to aim

[burnt flume]

Yeah it's I've gotten multiple runs of it

You don't really need the range, it functions similarly to hel revo but being able to one shot shooters is great

Bodyshots for stagger, 2 hit kills, one shot shooters

[rose nova]

mh, those alarms do have a lot of those for some reason

[gusty burrow]

DMR is great on solo because it has a large clip, consistent 1 shot stagger, consistent 2 shot kill, and can kill shooters in one shot

But it definitely suffers on R1A1 because you don't get as many good sightlines to use it on

[burnt flume]

Still good though

[gusty burrow]

But you do get some tight corners you can just brrrrrrrrrt machine pistol with

[burnt flume]

Combat shotgun does most of the work tbh

[rose nova]

i should play machinep again its been a while

[gusty burrow]

I mean yeah, combat shotgun do go kinda crazy. I haven't done much dmr combat shotty, do you quick swap to dmr if combat shotty leaves at low health?

[normal lake]

it aint intentional but it seems to happen a lot when im here

[burnt flume]

You can, or just combat shotgun again

It doesn't really matter

[gusty burrow]

Pretty equal value bullets, see wiT H MACH INE PISTOL

[junior latch]

L take

[rose nova]

:[

[junior latch]

its a common take in solo honestly

Issues with machine pp being that shooters will wreck you hard

[gusty burrow]

It has good time to kill, good reload cancel, good ammo, you can spray for good stagger

[junior latch]

its bad range and spread is generally an issue even in the close range of r1a1

[gusty burrow]

ADS, no spread

[junior latch]

then you get funky as hell recoil

which i can tell you from death% runs... is not fun to deal with

at least not at the range youd commonly need to shoot

in the range its good youd just rather use combat shotty

[gusty burrow]

I think you mean, in the range combat shotty is good, you'd rather just be using machine pistol 😎

[junior latch]

if i wanted a gun that excells in that range id probably prefer hel shotty, yes oof reload. but i get like three times the power

[gusty burrow]

It's even worse into shooters though

[junior latch]

Id take carbine, burst rifle, dmr, rifle, pistol and hel revo clearly over it

its better if you decide to rush them
worse if you try to tickle them ye

[gusty burrow]

Carbine is number one, I'm not going to fight that

[junior latch]

after carbine its probably dmr

[rose nova]

i wll >:3
ok no

[gusty burrow]

DMR has low ammo, which makes it hard to beat with just a 2 use, and not amazing synergy with combat shotty (neither gun finishes off the other's kills very well)

[junior latch]

You mean speedruns?

[gusty burrow]

The first part just for speedruns yes, second part applies in general though

[junior latch]

which gun is stronger than it and doesnt have the synergy issue tho?

[gusty burrow]

machine pistol

[junior latch]

And regarding efficiency, dmr is generally as efficient for speed as carbine so

[junior latch]

Serious answer :^ )

[gusty burrow]

I'm like 92% serious

[rose nova]

hel autop ahre :3

sorry

[gusty burrow]

I think it is legitimately one of machine pistol's best maps

[junior latch]

yes

[latent palm]

yo truu

R4E1?

[junior latch]

but its still machine pp tho

[latent palm]

[gusty burrow]

When it's good it's the best auto, it's only its range that kills it

But R1A1 is almost all within its range

[gusty burrow]

It sleepy time for me soon, but thanks for inviting

[latent palm]

aww man

[junior latch]

You mean when its in its element its the best of the autos?

[gusty burrow]

Exactly that

[junior latch]

honestly wish it would go even deeper into the spray down nature

bigger mag or smth

like hel pp

[rose nova]

i mean it reloads in 0.007 seconds

[latent palm]

@sharp owl

bae

R4E1

[gusty burrow]

3rd best reload cancel in the game (Rifle is second best????)

[rose nova]

whats the first

[gusty burrow]

PDW

[rose nova]

ah

unexpected

[gusty burrow]

By miles, 0.65 with Rifle being all the way at 0.82 (machine pistol 0.85)

PDW reload cancel is dirty

[rose nova]

w>

[junior latch]

@gusty burrow iirc those numbers were manually timed right?

[gusty burrow]

Correct, those are heart-felt's ones

[junior latch]

were those timed by when you could shoot again or when you can switch off?

cuz thats a difference obviously

[gusty burrow]

When you can switch off

Otherwise there's noise of actually performing the cancel perfectly (trust me, I tried to make a way to time it)

[junior latch]

Have ya tried logs?

[gusty burrow]

But hey, doesn't machine pistol have the fastest ready time, the reason it's the best for death %

Another point for machine pistol

[junior latch]

If only it wasnt one of the 5 worst main weapons

[sharp owl]

i will after i finish this game

[gusty burrow]

I really tried to put 5 below it and I am sad that on this one I agree

But it's still good on R1A1

[latent palm]

too late bae

[sharp owl]

😭

[timber tinsel]

I hate the primary with the thermal scope. Nothing dies!

[rose nova]

is a bit hard to get used to but is really nice after a couple tries

[last parrot]

r1d1

[rose nova]

u know is also good in, other levels too right skdmkm

[timber tinsel]

It's not shooting bullets. I'm just blowing kisses at enemies really hard!

[rose nova]

uwu wanna shoot me with it

[last parrot]

well blow enough kisses and you've got a viable weapon

[rose nova]

sorry had to

[glacial shard]

hi

[rose nova]

hello !!

[wispy bluff]

Cant tell if memeing or

[true pilot]

i saw a PDW hater

who dares to insult PDW

[rose nova]

they bit of a newie, hatin pdw is normal

i did it too

[glacial shard]

Thinking of buying the game but the hardcore diff seems a bit much

[modern coral]

Autos do suck, but also PDW is pretty decent.

[rose nova]

not every auto :[

[modern coral]

Every auto

[true pilot]

PDW is an auto =)

and it doesnt suck

[rose nova]

well is mostly learnin about stuff, once u kinda get the hang of it u got a lot of missions available, tho still a bit complicated

[modern coral]

It's just okay, tho.

[rose nova]

machinegun :[

[wispy bluff]

It very much is

[true pilot]

also hel shotgun is kinda an auto

[modern coral]

Thermal is genuinely what keeps it competitive.

[modern coral]

That's a special, tho.

[modern coral]

That is also a special

[rose nova]

_>

manipulation

[true pilot]

its not?

[glacial shard]

is there a lore chat?

[wispy bluff]

He's implaying it should be. Basically got all the features of a special - even long-ass reload - but is for some reason in main with 4 mags too many

[wispy bluff]

Yes.
#gtfo-lore

[rose nova]

:D

[livid gulch]

no #gtfo-lore

[rose nova]

theres a pinged document with the lore summarized too

in case thats watcha lookin for

[livid gulch]

"why are there no toilets in the complex"

[wispy bluff]

Lore currently in the process spiraling down the drain

[pine root]

pdw would be good

even is the weapon was shit

because thermal quick swaping is insane

[latent palm]

ye

pdw for life

btw

[modern coral]

It is still the best, despite also not being all that amazing.

[latent palm]

i just did R4E1

and

was it only the pmom + tank?

or am i not remembering

like

OG i played was alot more than just those 2

it had more giants/hybirds

[junior latch]

?

[modern coral]

It's always just been those 2 at the end.

[pine root]

word vomit

[glacial shard]

what's survival chance in a coordinated game?

[rose nova]

um pretty high, specially the more u understand the mechanics

[glacial shard]

I am not a crack shot

[latent palm]

on R5E1 rn

so the likely hood of me messin of words is hgh

[glacial shard]

will I die more often if I don't shoot straight?

[rose nova]

no noy high like that qwq

[wispy bluff]

Unless carried - most certainly

The game can get REAL mean

[latent palm]

most likely

sussy

[golden totem]

If you have at least 1 good player you can usually get through all of the A-tiers and most of the B-tiers with their guidance and help alone

[true pilot]

but

thats carrying