#gtfo-chat

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rose nova
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no, for like the map unloadin i meant, where it happens mid room

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but well um this too yeah its weird

primal leaf
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When we were clearly 10 rooms away.

rose nova
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i guess u mean final code

primal leaf
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Not sure how that happened.

rose nova
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baby alarm?

primal leaf
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Alarm that occurs while processing a baby

rose nova
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... ok thats not e1

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but in d1

primal leaf
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I'm talking both e1 and d1 at this point lol

rose nova
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if u fail the code, a mother spawns, it doesnt wake up

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same for the babies

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that is a thing

primal leaf
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It just came in like 2nd or 3rd code

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It was super weird

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It took ages to arrive

rose nova
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... um then idk, ik it spawns it the verification isnt put in time but well, weird

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d1 is a funky level

primal leaf
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Level with most glitches... r7d1 ftw

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Well..
Maybe second to r7d2

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That level has some crazy ones if you hold on room after first scan

rose nova
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i never seen many in there

wraith marsh
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thats intended I think

rose nova
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dak told me only one, which was a, super weird one

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which was a shadow big surge, but idk how much i believe it

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if u hold on the room where the blood door is tho u will get fucked byt the game mechanics

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not by, bugs

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cause enemies will spawn whenever ur friendo is

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2 rooms away

wraith marsh
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its a surge of giant whatever type based on the door you pulled for the passcode

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its awesome

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and its connected to that bridge tile specifically

primal leaf
wraith marsh
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I have no idea why but "yes"

primal leaf
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Or to have 3 waves of shadows spawn within 2 seconds and repeat again

rose nova
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... i hate to say it but if it was REALLY REALLY excessive, mightve been a hacker in ur lobby too

wraith marsh
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no its that bad

rose nova
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unless ur with friends

wraith marsh
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lol

primal leaf
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Oh I know

wraith marsh
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its fucking horrible

rose nova
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then it was maybe the game

primal leaf
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It was def the game. I had 2 peeps I played with before who didn't even use mods.

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That level is just legit buggy if you do certain things

wraith marsh
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we already said its not a bug

rose nova
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tbh the alarm is just kinda enemies always non stop

wraith marsh
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the only actual bug on that level is the hole you can get in tank zone sometimes

rose nova
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the big big wave mightve been you stacked a lot of em moving from zone to zone

primal leaf
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So what. Game spawns all giants for the rest of the level if you are 3 rooms away from the room you held in?

wraith marsh
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fairly sure it queues them all up

primal leaf
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About 10 minutes after the fact?

wraith marsh
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horrible design isnt a bug

primal leaf
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There's only supposed to be 10 or 20 giants one wave of em

wraith marsh
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(which again, we dont know what they were intending with it)

primal leaf
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The rest od the level definitely not supposed to be ALL giants

rose nova
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idk i just never heard of a bug like this

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a, big striker super wave?

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that just sounds so off

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... well im guessin it wasnt strikers either

wraith marsh
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its pretty funny

rose nova
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probs shadows or somethin

wraith marsh
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its chargers or shadows

rose nova
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or chargers

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yeah

primal leaf
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No. Super wave of big striker. Then it continues to spawn big strikers

rose nova
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...

wraith marsh
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damn, didnt open a passcode door yet?

rose nova
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they said 10 mins after

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o_o??????????

wraith marsh
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thats fucking awesome

primal leaf
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Nah. We opened passcode. And pushed back and did send blood door.

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And THEN we had constant giant spawn.

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Or constant charger spawn. It was different enemies sometimes but always a constant exhasturbated stream of a single enemy rather than the single or double spawn followed by the usual mix

rose nova
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the different enemies is intended

wraith marsh
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im starting to get the feeling you were playing the level regularly

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the waves do eventually run out

rose nova
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i mean but the big striker wave is the thing i dont get

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cause the game just doesnt spawn normal bigs after u go into one of the 2 zones

wraith marsh
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and I think the timing is around 10 minutes after door pull

rose nova
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and u, say u didnt played with any randoms? u did a three team with ur friends??

rose nova
wraith marsh
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nah

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the levels funky

primal leaf
wraith marsh
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every door you open has waves attached to it

primal leaf
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Yes.

rose nova
primal leaf
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But the constant error of nothing but a single enemy type (all bigs to the tune of 5 to 10 waves. Or all chargers again same deal... hell once ee even had snatchers to the tune of 4 to 5 at a time after the checkpoint)

analog flicker
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what level is this?

rose nova
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r7d2

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so yeah i

analog flicker
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oh yeah

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that's normal

rose nova
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i mean

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4 5 snatchers at a time

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why are people callin this normal am i not gettin it

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this just sounds like hacks

wicked solstice
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wait 4-5 snatchers on D2?

primal leaf
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Yep.

wicked solstice
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actually wait nvm lol

rose nova
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theres only, one or two

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no?

wicked solstice
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i had that happen onc

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;-;

primal leaf
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But they all spawned within 1 min

rose nova
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well how about the rest of the waves they are mentioning

primal leaf
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Usually the Spawns are spaced out for snatchers

wicked solstice
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yeah D2 is much less of an offender than D1, but it's still fairly bugged

analog flicker
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My only assumption is the R7D1 issue with snatchers/ or you took long enough they spawned another without killing the previous ones

wicked solstice
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flashbacks to the R7D2 shadow giant surge alarm

primal leaf
rose nova
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this all just sounds so weird

wicked solstice
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it happens a lot more when u run the games for long periods of time

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which is why u never see bugs slendi

rose nova
primal leaf
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I just want to be clear. I am aware enemy type varies depending upon the door you open.

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And spawns happen on opening doors.

wicked solstice
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ur not a butthole, also yeah the snatcher thing sounds a bit weird but it might've just been a stacked double spawn

analog flicker
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TT_hanakoread didn't say anything about that but yeah

primal leaf
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What I'm not aware of is it spawncapping a single enemy type in under 30 seconds normally.

wicked solstice
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it's this bug again

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so yknow how I mentioned the shadow giant surge?

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that can happen with any D2 enemy

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idk why

primal leaf
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THAT is what I am saying is probably unintended

wicked solstice
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i heard of it happening with BBc as well but i never seen it

analog flicker
wicked solstice
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only seen it with shadows

analog flicker
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all the babies

wicked solstice
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or dads lmao

primal leaf
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Where the bug is triggered by the hold... but occurs 3 rooms later

wicked solstice
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idfk what triggers it tbh

wraith marsh
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@pine root how did the funny d2 surge work again

analog flicker
wraith marsh
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was it an event attached to the bridge tile?

wicked solstice
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originally I thought it was D1 doing it

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bc I played D1 into D2

analog flicker
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but out running the babies god. (unless there is god spots you can hit through the wall

primal leaf
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This all got discussed because I simply wanted to point out more gamewide bugs that are game breaking. Like the sleeping enemies freezing in place and becoming immortal unmoving objects after a checkpoint respawn. Seems to happen frequently in r7c1

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But it happens in many other checkpoint levels too

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I'm praying some of these bugs have been worked on with the impending re-release of r6

wicked solstice
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It happens frequently in C1 because you have 3x as many items to get it with

rose nova
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checkpoints in general were always very funk

wicked solstice
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Kinda hope R6 goes light on em (or just removes them

primal leaf
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I feel there were fewer checkpoint bugs post r6 than on r6 release

wicked solstice
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i mean i noticed more now

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The heavy carry bug is much more prevalent nowadays

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Bc of A1 B1 C1 D1 all having you take heavy carries through checkpoints

primal leaf
wraith marsh
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yea

wicked solstice
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Got it once in R6 and so many times in R7, even when I’d drop cells miles away from the door

primal leaf
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I dont know but I'll definitely be on the lookout for QOL mods that reduce bugs.

wicked solstice
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I mean there are a few

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Like the one that fixes ghost babies

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Love that mod

primal leaf
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😆 I like the twerking babies though

pine root
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The surge is a Geo event. The first blood door bride has an event that spawns 2 charger giants or shadow giants. If you stand on that bridge for long enough eventually you will get an infinite wave of giants. The ending punishment waves work the same way

wicked solstice
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huh

pine root
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So in randomizer if you run into the first bridge tile in r7d2

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You get ducked

wicked solstice
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that’s hilarious tbh

pine root
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It is

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Breaks randomizer tho

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Cause you get forced to spawn 20 giants without the tile that removes them from the wave

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So it will just perma fuck your waves

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To my knowledge it is the only thing like it in the game

primal leaf
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It's pretty funny if you do it intentionally but not so much if it's unintentional

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Still makes no sense to me but wtf eh

pine root
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I think the event is missing a condition

sharp owl
latent palm
edgy karma
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After r8 comes
Would there be alt version of r7 and r8 as well?

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And upcoming r6 is alt version right?

final nest
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anyone tryna play, I am new to the game, just got it

somber hemlock
foggy plankBOT
sharp owl
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isn't the rule that every rundown gets an alt rework

latent palm
sharp owl
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who said i do

latent palm
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Just askin

sharp owl
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im just saying

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the first 6 rundowns have alts

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why would 7 not

latent palm
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On par with everything that other Rundowns offers

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R7 beats all of it on terms of story and gameplay

sharp owl
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ah so it's already good enough not to need a rework

latent palm
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It servers as a good sequence to R8

latent palm
sharp owl
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i do kinda wanna see what happens in r8

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i don't understand how you could give this game a satisfying ending

latent palm
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Then yes its gonna be a big build up to a letdown ngl

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But lets just say if its all a dream

sharp owl
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it cannot be all a dream

latent palm
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And were all unplugged from the HSU and get another cutscene to reset it all again

sharp owl
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i refuse to even place the idea that this was a dream in my brain

latent palm
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A good way to end a game and still makes it replayable

latent palm
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The biochip in your head sure aint

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Top spine i meant

sharp owl
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pulling the "it was all a dream" thing is just so unsatisfying and annoying

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everything we did, learned, decoded, theorized, was worthless

latent palm
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I guess well pull the biochip out on the first R8 mission

sharp owl
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that'd be cool

latent palm
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Cause we’re literally gonna break the cycle

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And free from the Warden finally

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But then we witnessed the truth that the warden was keeping is safe from all the horrific things above

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Would be a good connection to “listen to the voice and you might just survive”

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From the old Warden intercom

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“Succeed or die”

timid basin
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I think they said last year (can't find the article anymore) that they wanna do something "unexpected and weird" for the ending of GTFO

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It was in one of those Gamescom articles

rough robin
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i am really curious to see how they untangle the MESS of lore alts gave us

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and make it make any sense

latent palm
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OG being alot more focused on the characters than the actual world happening around them

latent palm
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I mean listening to voice logs from OG dauda when he runs is good but

timid basin
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"...We’ll see what format that [ending] is – we like to mess with you, so probably some weird stuff!”

latent palm
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No context whatsoever to the world that they survived

rough robin
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they don't even react to their r5 logs

latent palm
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I feel you

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I really do since they just took off with my R5A2-3

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Dauda isn’t ashamed and asking for forgiveness anymore

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But getting shoved in an HSU

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That really makes me mald ngl

surreal plaza
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Found out the hard way that the c foam grenade doesn't freeze tanks

latent palm
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Cause of between the time it takes foam to go out like foam is different

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So you have to throw like 1.5-2x the foam on a launcher to compare to a cfoam trippy

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But a full charge foam launcher and a quick throw cfoam nade works just as effective

little ridge
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If I understood it correctly, foam tripmines basically have 2 components to its foam: The cone of effect, which will foam anything, and the foam that bursts out.

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I've given up trying to foam cscouts or moms as client even with nades since of how often I have the nade go through them

flat perch
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the feet, Luke, foam their feet

burnt flume
sharp owl
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can i ask something game related

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or like game engine related more like

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how come this game has desync issues but other co-op pve games do not?

Wouldn't you be able to copy paste the "correct" code from one title to another with some help from stack overflow in order to fix the issue, if other games have already figured a way to do it

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like if a solution exists what's preventing a ctrl c + ctrl v

burnt flume
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I'm not qualified to answer but I'd assume that you can't just copy and paste code and have it work, desync is connection based mainly

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better netcode would certainly help but eh

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the more I think about it the more I realise I don't understand how exactly it works or what to say on the matter

sharp owl
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fair enough

sharp siren
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if just copying stuff was easy

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game devs would just do it

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specially on networking

burnt flume
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something something stack overflow

sharp owl
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yeah that

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every video i've watched on like software development basically regurgitates the stereotype of "look up problem, import code, repeat"

gusty burrow
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"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong."

sharp owl
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quotes to live by

sharp siren
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because copying what syncs in one game surely would translate to another so well

sharp siren
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i mean im just been realisitc

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its not that simple

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and those tutorials are the basic of software dev wich is not game dev

latent palm
sharp siren
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yeah you can copy and paste some stupid exercise thats suppose to teach you something

latent palm
sharp siren
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but that doesnt apply at all when you talk about game development and product software

sharp owl
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quite sad

sharp siren
latent palm
sharp owl
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it's really tragic to see games making the same blunders over and over with new titles

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when it comes to bugs n stuff

latent palm
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why do u hate shlorp cat

analog flicker
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Peer to peer. And iirc didn't the netcode change happen in R6?

latent palm
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kinda niche

analog flicker
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Peer to peer?

latent palm
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ye

sharp siren
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the game was p2p

analog flicker
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Would fit if it isn't

sharp siren
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they just change interpolation

latent palm
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more like tryna get on the same vpn (i used radmin so its almost the same)

analog flicker
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Host/client bs

latent palm
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so its gonna real good

sharp siren
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due to how the game drop friends to catch up

latent palm
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or real fucking bad

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so uhhh Solace

analog flicker
latent palm
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R4E1 again today?

analog flicker
latent palm
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@light sigil

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oops

analog flicker
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I'm just barely starting work

latent palm
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forgot BD hate Shlorp cat

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this will do

analog flicker
sharp owl
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i kinda hate playing new missions because i have no idea what the hell is going on and i just blindly follow everyone else

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"oh let me look things up on the terminal"

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oh the team is 3 rooms away

analog flicker
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I get it for easier missions.

sharp owl
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there's not enough time to understand so i just kinda

latent palm
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gid gud i guess

sharp owl
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run around like a chicken

latent palm
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i mean you on solo bolo now

analog flicker
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But harder missions it's not easy to go slow paced. Especially for experienced

latent palm
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so no need to think about it

coarse grail
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or ask for other beginners

sharp owl
latent palm
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well i gtg

sharp owl
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i don't think that counts as beginner

analog flicker
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R2E1

ivory pier
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bro think he an elitist cuz he play R2E1

coarse grail
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idk, I see people posting D tier in beginners

ivory pier
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you are NOT one of us

sharp owl
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no, no

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i am not claiming to be good

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calm down

latent palm
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@sharp siren any how i can fix the tank timer burning my Pc on R4E1?

sharp owl
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i just meant that maybe beginner chat isn't suited for more difficult missions

analog flicker
latent palm
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its honestly so sad that my game dies half way on secondary now really

unreal crystal
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lfg na is beginners lfg

analog flicker
latent palm
analog flicker
latent palm
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the work call went in as the same time

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but other than that

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game died

ionic pollen
latent palm
latent palm
ivory pier
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D:

coarse grail
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People playing via a lfg-beginners post should have a different pace to those playing in any other region unless otherwise specified

latent palm
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ill drag you into randomized tilesets R4E1 @ivory pier

coarse grail
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So if people are going too fast in the others ones just go to beginners

latent palm
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but not paying attention

ivory pier
latent palm
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PLAYING SOLO AS WELL?!?!?

latent palm
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bro is racing against his demons

ivory pier
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solo with bots

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:_NOWAYING:

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did they ever give a date for R6 alt

little ridge
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Nade go through a big charger, foam is basically on his feet

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nade goes through cscout while I was basically point blank

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I assume you're telling me that aiming at the feet and making it such as I foam the ground he'll walk on BEFORE he walks on works

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But I shouldn't have to play around that

unreal crystal
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But such is life in GTFO

gusty burrow
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I used to find c-foaming cscouts very inconsistent, but I've found it a lot more consistent since I've started waiting for them to stop (even throwing in a mini sprint to make them stop)

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It might be a weird sync issue where the projectile gets tracked by host

little ridge
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Let me clarify what I'm asking: Client gets headshot--->sends packet to host--->thing happens for everyone ||| Is this how it works?

gusty burrow
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Bullets are clientside, but they're also hitscan, so it's fairly straightforward to make it clientside

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C-foam is a projectile, whose position mid flight also needs to be relayed to every other client

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So it might have made sense for it to be tracked by host

little ridge
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So it bypasses the issue?

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If client launches foam and entity gets foamed it gets foamed for everyone?

light sigil
latent palm
gusty burrow
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In terms of consistency for a given client, sure, but I have no idea what would have had to go into the netcode to make it work

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What if a different client sees the nade hit the enemy, even if thrower-client and host don't. What do you do for c-foam trip-mine blobs, who do they 'belong' to (placer client or host? someone would see them to be inconsistent).

little ridge
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But nade/foam mines? I'd gladly sacrifice A BIT of inconsistency for whoever didn't throw

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Also because missing a nade ain't really easy... those targets are gigantic

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the only times I see someone deliberatly miss a nade it's because they didnt charge

ivory pier
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so brainwashed by playing with the R4E1 gods
PLAYING AROUND THE FACT 🤓 👆

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DID YOU KNOW WXEP LAY AROUN RNG BTW

ivory pier
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no

little ridge
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I've no idea who or what you're talking about

ivory pier
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i have that effect on people

gray pilot
latent palm
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@little ridge heyyyy beepo

ivory pier
latent palm
gray pilot
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🤯

hollow quarry
unreal crystal
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Frosty’s gonna be so glad to hear this

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New lore UNLOCKED

radiant ether
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OMG I want to be a 10CC employee for all the benefits, especially the breakfast!

hollow quarry
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Game industry is pretty bonkers regarding benefits

hollow idol
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This game is so hard. Not entirely cuz it’s hard but cuz all I wanna do is bonk mouth faces and then they get mad

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Then I run out of bullets

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🫠

edgy shard
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guyys i got a question

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i am in rundown and my guy just afk idk what happen to him and hes got a key to progress futher, what will happend if he will leave? shall i create just new lobby or can i kick somehow??

gusty burrow
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If he leaves then someone else will get the key and you'll be able to progress

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There is no kick function by default, so unfortunately if he doesn't leave you'd have to remake a new lobby

wispy bluff
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Also that's not a rundown - that's an expedition.
Rundown is the set of expeditions. A campaign if you will.

edgy shard
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thanks !

valid surge
craggy crater
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guys how do you think, the developers will ever release rundown 9.0 or its just a happy and painful dream?

wispy bluff
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Only If Calle

eternal maple
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Dream

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lol

gusty burrow
wispy bluff
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For now R8 is confirmed to be the finale of this ride.

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From the on its a mystery.
Frankly they might as well just do GTFO 2 after that, we could use some improvements in UI front.

valid surge
eternal maple
wispy bluff
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It's certainly one of.

craggy crater
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why does the good end so quickly?

wispy bluff
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Inability to pick characters, horrific booster UI...

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Vertical inventories are relics that should be dead, but for some reasons developers keep doing them.

eternal maple
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I think its fairly easy to overlook most of the problems besides the bugs

wispy bluff
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I don't the overlook thing. I can accept it, I can understand why. Bad still bad.

eternal maple
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Character choice would be nice, but the characters don't have that distinct of personalities so I find it to be fine

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But yeah GTFO 2 would (possibly) go hard

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Or a succesor

wispy bluff
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...which is also another issue because they have crap ton of voicelines, but half of them are turned off because "random dialogue ruins immersion"

rose nova
hollow quarry
coarse grail
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I wish I could track what characters I've cleared each level with 😦

unreal crystal
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Random dialogue doesn’t ruin immersion what

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the issue would be none of them shut up

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and it would get irritating

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This is why dauda is the best…

rose nova
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i think the best way was a slider, or well like an option to determine how much characters talk, if its at maximum, all the voicelines get used, if its in the middle or so it is like how it is now, if its on 0 then no one talks

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well maybs not a slider

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just the three options, maximum medium low

wispy bluff
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The only game that ever did that was Forspoken because everyone realized how annoying MC was so they put in an option to calm her down a couple of notches

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Maybe there's more. I think XCOM had something like that too, but for logistical reasons since I don't need to hear exposition on an enemy I've fought in a dozen campaigns already

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Everyone be acting like there's no middle ground in that. It's literally polish. 10c just chose the other extreme.

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Goddammit, they removed the character commenting on their interview logs. An occurance that happens once, in one map, only if you go out of your way to listen to those logs.

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At least they still banter when someone takes fall damage. Small mercies.

unreal crystal
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It’s not like they removed it

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it was just never there

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apparently they were supposed to patch it in but uh

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You know

wispy bluff
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Right, I keep forgetting. Probably because I've listened to them on wiki so it just doesn't fit in my mind that it wouldn't actually be there.

latent palm
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@sharp owl

sharp owl
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yes my love

latent palm
sharp owl
latent palm
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no more GTFO for u

sharp owl
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😭

median rivet
stiff helm
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How does the looking for group work

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Im confused about the code

sharp owl
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you copy the code and a red button in game shows saying join (user)

stiff helm
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Where do I copy the code from

wispy bluff
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Depends on if you are a host or client

sharp owl
wispy bluff
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If host - in lobby, top right

sharp owl
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u give that to those who wanna join

wispy bluff
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If you want to join someone you go to lfg channels and copy code from there

stiff helm
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All I see is Settings, Rundown, Lobby and Quit

wispy bluff
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Host a lobby first

stiff helm
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Ohhhhhhhh

wispy bluff
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Pick rundown, then level, press and hold "host lobby" or whatever it says

stiff helm
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Got it

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Yea

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Thanks

wispy bluff
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Once your character appears on screen - there will be a button top right saying "COPY LOBBY ID"

rough robin
wispy bluff
#

oh god

analog flicker
#

I forgot what Hackett replies to it

rough robin
# wispy bluff *oh god*

Everyone knows its more immersive to have your established characters not react to anything including suddenly being warped to an alien planet 😎

rough robin
#

Half life did it better than most

#

But they still do that shit where characters talk directly to him, even ask him questions, and he just

#

Stares at them

mint light
#

yep

wispy bluff
#

Some video games are more video games than others

ivory pier
wispy bluff
#

I know it's like a meme but seriously - where the hell is R6, I want the goddamn lore

#

What was it again? Thursday? Which one is that? 3/7?

rough robin
#

could be tomorrow

#

will likely be the 28th

quartz cape
#

it comes out 21st

wispy bluff
#

Sigh

kind ruin
quartz cape
#

competing with payday 3 launch

rough robin
#

that would be the worst idea in the world

#

and I think you're right

thick temple
pine root
#

And he is right

unreal crystal
#

ignore jarhead

#

mountainman has inside knowledge

quartz cape
#

thats chimp davies to you

unreal crystal
#

my bad

#

Captain Chimp Davies

quartz cape
unreal crystal
#

the impossible task...

kind ruin
timber tinsel
#

There's so many levels I haven't done yet, including some A's, but I feel like it's impossible to match for those without getting someone that speedruns through and does all the objectives for you. D:

rose nova
#

nooo qwq

#

gettin carried is so boring

#

if u need helps on somethin and ur stuck, its better just ask for advice over here or try out different strats !

timber tinsel
#

Can't get stuck if I go in first time and someone does everything!

rose nova
#

but its boring qwq

#

u dont do anythin

#

u just, watch

fresh owl
#

I feel you guys, just bought the game but i don"t want to get carried 💀 it takes out all the fun

timber tinsel
#

That's my complaint! I don't learn anything really. Maybe map layout. These levels clearly present 0 challenge to them, so why do they join to solo the mission in a group? Flexing?

rough robin
#

yes

rose nova
#

idk, but thats why i always recommend askin not for it

rough robin
#

it is 100% flexing

last parrot
#

i went in a lfg once with 2 people who haven't dropped into a single level

rose nova
#

if they join and they dont speak and just run, go away

rough robin
#

the same reason if you beat a level some people will be like "nice job man! only took me like 10 minutes blindfolded"

last parrot
#

im helping the 2 figure out how to play the game

#

while the fourth just ran through and shot everyone and got us down 3 or 4 times

#

it felt like i accidentally walked into a speedrun

fresh owl
#

Probably trying to speedrun losing if it ended up killing his teammates, no sense of cooperation whatsoever

#

He was playing solo ig

rough robin
#

game is 10x better playing it as a fresh experience with a group

fresh owl
#

But the dude is working so we can't play

timber tinsel
#

I guess I have to make it a request now. The highest level I've completed is a single C level and died on some other C attempts. But I'm fine dying and learning instead of watching someone complete every objective, kill every enemy and spoil every encounter.

fresh owl
#

I still haven't done a B level 516395crythumbsup

wispy bluff
#

Reminds me of a time a guy pulled a door, said "Good luck!" and run away

thick temple
#

i've finally been able to enjoy a lot more of the game recently by getting a few pals who i'd played with before and i knew were pretty serious about the game, but not like overly serious overall yknow?
and we found a fourth who vibes with us pretty damn good and have all been having a blast running through r4
so finding people you're actually friends with who'll still take the game seriously? can't recommend it enough

hollow merlin
#

ngl, sometimes when a hard level's been beating you down, it feels great to just drop down to easier levels and just speed clear it.

but yeah, I tend to match the speed of the rest of the team. If they're taking a minute to coordinate a giant kill, I wait with them.

rose nova
wispy bluff
#

The entire squad looked at him like ShooterUok then we looked what was behind the door and ScoutRage

fresh owl
rose nova
#

:D

fresh owl
#

When your friend fail to melee the sleepers and awake the entire room

#

Such great times

earnest forge
#

"You were supposed to hit the right one, not the rightish one"

#

We all have fond memories like this

rose nova
#

i would b the type to help a newie on a mission but also suddenly just, closin the door behind em and lettin em stealth 7 together :]

wispy bluff
#

"Sigh, alright..."
pulls out HCP HackettThreat

fresh owl
hollow merlin
#

or when you accidentally touch a feeler in the back, and fumble while trying to communicate to the guy trying to close in

timber tinsel
earnest forge
#

or the classic "we hit on three", but someone is a bit over-eager and hits on 2.9 and the other one hits the ground (because obviously they were targetting the same sleeper), waking the whole room

rose nova
#

r5 b1 is too much, i dont get how is a b ksmdkm

wispy bluff
#

Honestly Cs shouldn't even be bad until you attempt secondaries

fresh owl
latent palm
rose nova
#

depends on the rundown

latent palm
#

i can join

wispy bluff
#

C Main only is basically slightly above normal difficulty

#

Now this prisonerefficiency motherf~

rose nova
#

:3

latent palm
#

ER calls whenever Artek tries to do prisonerefficiency

#

hehe

fresh owl
fresh owl
#

We died a few times due to some failed attemps bugs ofc

latent palm
#

well might as well go solo bolo then

#

no one lfging rn

analog flicker
#

Can't even trust bots

#

Bots'll just shoot you in the back

rose nova
#

only if they dislike u

fresh owl
#

My bots are going through closed doors

analog flicker
fresh owl
#

And dies

latent palm
rose nova
#

they dont shoot me :3

#

they like me

latent palm
#

On god?

rose nova
#

i pat the bots regularly

hollow merlin
#

shoot the bots back

#

assert dominance

latent palm
analog flicker
#

Giving the bots Backshots

#

Wut

fresh owl
#

Huh ?

#

👁️

kind ruin
#

You’re telling me you are “down” ?

#

🤨

rose nova
#

owo

latent palm
pastel aurora
kind ruin
#

Who did that

pastel aurora
rose nova
#

qwq bots r nice

pastel aurora
#

They fail at synchronization and teamwork from my experience. Might give them a chance if I can't find anyone.

rose nova
#

i mean synchronization skdmkm
i guess

#

i mean they dont do stealth at all so maybs :b

analog flicker
#

Bots play better in stealth the slower you play.

#

But combat wise.

#

They're ok.

#

Not great

#

Just ok.

wispy bluff
#

Can confirm.

analog flicker
#

(Better bots mod though increases their combat quite a bit.

rose nova
#

they carried me a lot when i couldnt aim

wispy bluff
#

I did solod R4C2 prisonerefficiency with them

rose nova
analog flicker
#

I've only seen a friend streaming it. So idk just how much better they get.

pastel aurora
#

They are good at combat. But I can't get them to sync up whenever I do stealth.

wispy bluff
#

I'm still not sure how the fuck I survived the extra spicy alarm doors, but they did great in overload.

#

It also took me 4 hours, so you know.

#

There are trade offs for certain.

rose nova
#

bots go to the awaken enemy and hit it

peak sand
analog flicker
#

Bots depending on range. Will shoot or melee woken enemies.

pastel aurora
#

What?!

analog flicker
#

They will simulate moving while sleepers are not pulsing

pastel aurora
#

They don't awaken them from shooting?

rough robin
#

bots literally can't break stealth

wispy bluff
#

Bots are absolutely silent when in stealth

rose nova
#

they can walk through em

#

:3

wispy bluff
#

They can hug scouts and they don't give a shit

#

Can blast a shotgun near one and it won't care either.

peak sand
#

Bots can also go through Scout feelers without angering them

rose nova
earnest forge
rose nova
#

also in r7c3 i doubt they shoot

#

no spoils cause newies

#

but i doubt they shoot

analog flicker
pastel aurora
#

Please no spoils.

analog flicker
rose nova
#

thats ur fault for givin em a shottie

rose nova
#

never

#

:[

pastel aurora
#

I wish to learn what I'll find in the Complex later down the line.

analog flicker
earnest forge
#

Whenever you give a bot a weapon that can one-tap you, expect to be one-taped at some point. They will do their best to try and revive you afterwards, though.

wispy bluff
#

I double down on Slendi's statement: you never give bots high punch weapons.

analog flicker
#

gives Bishop a Scatter gun

rose nova
#

qwq

wispy bluff
#

You give them all a Burst Rifle and a machine gun of your choosing

analog flicker
#

1 baby striker: exists
Bishop: loads scatter gun with malicious intent

wispy bluff
#

Never have to think again

analog flicker
peak sand
analog flicker
#

They'll melee bigs.

rose nova
#

theyll melee bigs

analog flicker
#

As unbelievable as it is. A bot can solo a giant

rose nova
#

if a bot is far away itll run to u to melee it

#

as long as the room doesnt wake up

#

this means u can silently do every room on that level

#

and ik cause ive done it

#

... tho i died 10 seconds later

#

but i did those 3

visual lily
#

Game dead

rose nova
#

omneco

peak sand
#

I must not have had luck with that, the bots must have been too far away for melee for me. That was from my experience with doing R2C1 solo at least but I have seen footage of them melee-ing bigs

#

The bots are pretty effective with stealth a lot of times either way

rose nova
#

usually the strat is, u get behind the big, stand up, watch the bots to see if they r close, and if they are, full charge to the back of the head

#

and then just keep hittin with help of the bots

#

and itll go down fast

#

u dont even need a hammer or spear, the bat works too, tho the knife probs is harder, since u need to do the second stagger most of the time

peak sand
#

Now that I think about it I have had them melee bigs, I just wasn't paying attention to them and focused more on the actual big striker or big shooter

#

One thing I wish the bots were a bit smarter at is picking up deployable mines. When you tell them to pick up a mine, instead of picking up the most recent one they placed, they will go for the first one they placed instead. At least in my experience, I've not really used bots to deploy mines some player usually has it instead of a bot
Eitherway the bots still are pretty good

rose nova
#

i think they just go for all the mines lmao
but well yeah i have the mine on my runs, the bots stay on bio sentry and foam, tho i barely use foam on most of my runs

mint light
rose nova
#

just goes in a room, 4 5, 'kill this enemy', repeat

pastel aurora
peak sand
mint light
#

at ALL

rose nova
#

i meant it as what djdna said, like a funky joke

peak sand
#

ohhh I see lol
my bad haha

#

I was about to say if that was a feature I would be upset if I missed that haha

rose nova
#

kmsdkm no its oke
but yeah it wouldve been to easy to exploit so, better to just do it all oneself :]

sharp owl
#

The fact that

#

Hitting a giant in the shoulder by accident removes the head

#

And you can't kill it anymore

#

Jeez

#

This game's really annoying about how killing things works

mint light
burnt flume
latent palm
#

@fresh owl Shlorp

sharp owl
#

Are you kidding

#

But the head isn't there anymore how is the hitbox there

#

Sometimes there's literally just legs and it's alive

Other times removing the head with enough force kills it

mint light
rough robin
#

science

sharp owl
#

You gotta hit it 2 more times in the body

mint light
sharp owl
#

It's so dumb

#

Imo

rose nova
#

its a punishment for not hittin it first try

#

or not coordinatin with teammates

#

usually if one is runnin sniper all the others know 'ok, all big guys for em, we wont shoot em up the torso'

timber tinsel
#

Just to be sure...pinging anything anywhere is a mod, right?

rose nova
#

yep

earnest forge
#

Yes. In the current version of the game you can ping doors, containers and terminals

rose nova
#

and some objective items

timber tinsel
#

What other mods are there? I just want to be able to spot them.

sharp owl
#

ping them

earnest forge
#

There are a LOT

latent palm
#

Chatter reborn

#

sentries everywhere

#

honestly theyre funni mods

burnt flume
#

coloured names, perfect boosters

#

coloured names are pretty cute actually

rose nova
#

those r just funk those are fine

hollow merlin
earnest forge
#

Some are only cosmetic, while others give you in-game advantages

rose nova
#

oh yeah stackin resources, ammo packs n such

latent palm
earnest forge
#

Quality of life sit somewhere in the middle

hollow merlin
#

what's a true qol mod that doesn't significantly improve your performance

even something like the left click / right click to use resource packs mod has saved me so much time chasing down teammates and checking tab screen

#

especially during time-sensitive parts of levels

rose nova
#

some bug fixes mods i would guess

hollow merlin
#

I guess

latent palm
#

all and all

#

mods doesnt affect much until some1 spawns 40 pmoms

rose nova
#

i dont like seein people pingin enemies

#

tickles my beans

sharp owl
rose nova
#

fuck the ping everythig mod

#

:[

latent palm
sharp owl
latent palm
#

i always like it as a newbie guide mod

rose nova
#

no i am mexican i am always nommin beans

#

frijoles charros AH QUE RICO-

latent palm
#

as i walk before and ping for newies to learn

sharp owl
latent palm
rose nova
#

mexico is nice

#

thats what the emotes mean right

#

u travelin here

#

:3

sharp owl
#

twice in a row

rose nova
#

u went to mexico twice in a row?

#

damn

#

nice

sharp owl
#

2 for 3

latent palm
#

aight

rose nova
#

oke

latent palm
#

since no ones playin that i can join

rose nova
#

so ping everythin, i dont like it :]

latent palm
#

might as well go bed

rose nova
#

but it depends on the host always so

rose nova
#

:3

sharp owl
latent palm
#

gonna keep the machine up and runnin till i get a ping for GTFO

sharp owl
#

😂

latent palm
#

peace

sharp owl
#

🥺

latent palm
#

nah

sharp owl
#

😭

latent palm
earnest forge
#

The bottom line is, players should just openly mention that they are planning to use mod x and y to the others.
Either the others agree or find someone else to play with (at least in my book)
Of course, as of rule 12, any mod you use should not impact the other players experience of the game, unless they explicitly agree with it.
This would probably be explained better by the people over at #hc-modded

sharp owl
#

cruel

earnest forge
#

Sounds like cheating, doesn't it to you ? :)

sharp owl
#

sounds fine to me 🤔

earnest forge
#

The devs have added more resources to most expeditions with the Alt:// remake

sharp owl
#

well i havent played the OGs so cant tell

earnest forge
#

The weapons have almost all been buffed since the OGs

#

pRip Burst Cannon, you were too stronk

sharp owl
#

5 dmg decrease barely counts as a nerf

#

and if u mention recoil just get good

earnest forge
#

The recoil does

high ruin
#

disclose that you're going to use cconsole and fly around

latent palm
#

But warp

#

Hehe warp

earnest forge
#

That is kind of an extreme case

#

At this point you are rendering the all game moot

sharp owl
latent palm
#

Aight fr this time

#

Ima try to get a tank death% when i wake up

#

Or a tank kill %

high ruin
#

yeah but they could've googled the mod to see what it was. Once you're in the level

high ruin
earnest forge
#

Has Eva not caught up with the Shooter one yet ?

high ruin
#

I tried reclaiming the striker one and accidentally beat him in the shooter category by a couple hundred ms

wicked solstice
#

Oh wait

#

Lmao nvm

earnest forge
#

I was about to say

high ruin
#

R4E1 is best bet

earnest forge
#

Are you sure about that ?

wicked solstice
#

I forgor

earnest forge
#

R4E1 or R7E1 should be the way to go

wicked solstice
#

R4E1 is wayy more optimal imo

#

Literally spawn in 10s

#

No other level has a tank that’s remotely close to that, except maybe R6D3 if for some reason you want 2

earnest forge
#

And you can get hit on your way there by "fortunate" enemy spawns, I get it

wicked solstice
#

Yeah R7E1 doesn’t have a very good tank

#

It would probably be good for snatcher % tho

earnest forge
#

Do not give them ideas T_T

wicked solstice
#

I mean they seem to be speedrunning every enemy so why not?

high ruin
#

I was thinking about scout and how that'd actually be tricky to sr

#

let alone shadow scout/charger scout

wicked solstice
primal comet
#

is there anyone who would want to stream their plays? i would love to watch you guys play and learn

wicked solstice
#

R7D2 immediately comes to mind

high ruin
wicked solstice
#

There’s also R7C3

#

Birther you could do like R6D2 or D4

#

Honestly hardest enemy to access is probably Shocker

timber tinsel
#

Pinging everything mod feels like when teammates spam ping their death crate back in Apex.

#

They don't know when to stop.

ivory pier
#

because we want to play the game

#

theres not enough people that play the game that are good at the game

#

the alternative is wait until specific ppl get on

#

and then you play the same levels with the same people constantly

rose nova
#

thats, not an excuse to just, see new players and just dont care and run away
at least tell em ur gonna do that

#

then they can say 'ok fine, stay if u want'

#

or 'nope, no carries'

ivory pier
#

??

#

i'm gonna try to complete the objective, ok?

rose nova
#

i mean yeah but, newies cant keep up with speedrun type of pace

hollow merlin
#

you can't complain about people not being good at the game, then not have the patience to guide newer players

or just don't join r1a1 lobbies then

ivory pier
#

i dont complain

#

i sit in the next teamscan and wait patiently

rose nova
#

thats just makin the new players do nothin

#

:T

ivory pier
#

is me doing nothing a better option

coarse grail
#

Its kinda weird for an experienced player to have to be making an assessment of their own skill and of the skill of their team when they hop into a lobby

junior latch
rose nova
#

its a way slower game

#

but u do things both ways

#

just with one u, dont let other people play

coarse grail
#

Are you matchmaking through lfg beginners Wesley?

timber tinsel
#

My point earlier is that I'd rather play the game than have someone on a different pace play the game for me~

ivory pier
rose nova
#

there must be, someone out there

ivory pier
#

yeh specific people

junior latch
ivory pier
#

and then we play specific levels

#

again and again

junior latch
#

Like, if id choose to play lfg beginner id do basically nothing and explain stuff if needed

ivory pier
#

should i just never play B tier again?

#

what tier am i allowed to play

coarse grail
#

If its in lfg-beginner I agree with slendi, if not then 🤷‍♂️

junior latch
#

if i play lfg i might just clear what i need to, get my ressources and afk on scan teamscan spot

ivory pier
#

i played E tier and at the end people still said i did everything

#

should i just not play the game anymore

rough robin
#

yes

junior latch
#

You gotta play G tier at least

timid igloo
#

Is there a way to play this game in 3rd person? A 3rd person mod like in Darktide also do devs listen to a suggestion like please add a 3rd person over the shoulder view or nah?

ivory pier
#

thanks for pro tip

rose nova
rose nova
junior latch
#

Thats the thing tho

I heavily doubt wesley joins a post through lfg beginners

ivory pier
#

those ppl are just shy

#

so then they say its fine

#

lmao

rose nova
#

ok then yeah its their fault

#

thats, completely fair

ivory pier
#

i have actually joined beginners lfg once

ivory pier
#

because the other lfgs were all R5D1 EXTREME once again

ivory pier
#

lfg its a bunch of new people

#

a bunch of ok people that are hardstuck on the worst levels in the game

rose nova
ivory pier
#

a bunch of good people that only play E1

sharp owl
rose nova
#

bot run when

ivory pier
#

i did a lot of them already

#

but some levels dont work with them

#

in an enjoyable way

sharp owl
#

yeah dont try unless u got no friends

#

😄 🔫

ivory pier
#

😄 🔫

balmy moat
ivory pier
#

change your nickname

sharp owl
balmy moat
#

So I’m clowning

sharp owl
#

based

ivory pier
#

they didnt say that R8 is last

#

its the end of the story

pine root
ivory pier
#

and they cant promise more content

#

R9 is real

pine root
#

stop

ivory pier
#

there is hope

#

bro

pine root
#

no lier

rose nova
#

rundown 8.5????????????????????

ivory pier
#

they will hire sam for R9

#

full charger rundown its gonna be so hard

rough robin
#

at this point literally just lease the community to make r9, take it and make it worse, and then officially release it

balmy moat
#

Look, I’ll change my name when I see R9 announcement for when they hire Sam and make a full charger rundown @ivory pier

ivory pier
#

you will regret those words

balmy moat
#

Until then, I’m clowning on the nonbelievers

ivory pier
#

youngman

balmy moat
rose nova
#

hello, um this is not the channel to post lobby codes, those would b the LFG channels

#

.t lfg

foggy plankBOT
stiff helm
#

had to wait a minute and I already founda group

#

just was giving them the code

rose nova
#

ah, ok, just u can send it through dms next time
but its fine

sharp owl
#

no send it with your brain scanner

rose nova
#

send it through bio

sharp owl
#

ill get a floppy disk and mail it to you

#

👴

timber tinsel
#

I'm learning I just need to be more specific with my LFG posts. I want to learn and play, but sometimes so far I'll get 1 person who can and does the whole level solo. They'll kill every enemy, find every item, fulfill the objective while the rest of us are rooms behind. These are in a few A & B levels I've matchmade for. It's been discouraging.

sharp owl
#

depending on your timezone i might be able to help

timber tinsel
#

I can understand wanting to chill out and do an easier level after tackling the later ones (that I hope to try some day!), but it hurts new player experiences when an uber experienced player jumps in just to do the level.

junior latch
sharp owl
rose nova
#

i usually always recommend sayin 'Pls no carries' and maybs even 'No super experienced players' but i can guess u have been doin that so im not sure

timber tinsel
#

I learned that now. I'm just surprised I have to, 'cause I can't imagine someone having fun in an A level when they regularly run D or higher.

rough robin
#

some people do just do it to flex

timber tinsel
#

Well, it's not impressive and only pushes me to not post instead~

#

@sharp owl #BotAreEvil

rose nova
#

qwq bots

timber tinsel
#

Me and frand were at the end of R3A3 and Hacket phased through a foamed door on the only alarm scan in the mission and got stuck! He killed us! 😦

rough robin
#

do you know how to disable bots

timber tinsel
#

I disabled him after a few seconds but the damage was already done. Booting Hacket also caused my friend's game to implode.

rough robin
#

ohhh right

rose nova
#

fairs, i had the bots go through doors lotta times, but well
i hope u can find a group that is super nice to play it, that is an LFG advantage, u can always ask the person to play again someday

#

gettin a lil group earlier n stickin with em n stuff

sharp owl
timber tinsel
#

Your friends are traitors!

#

Heathens~!

sharp owl
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Youll have to take me down then

rough robin
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15dmg Bat coming r6

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source: I saw it in a vision

hollow merlin
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what thresholds does that hit

rough robin
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two-hit chargers from front / 1 from back

hollow merlin
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oh front scout

rough robin
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4 bats can kill a giant

wispy bluff
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I wonder if they took any of my balance concerns to heart

rough robin
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i will be surprised if there's a single balance change

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tbh

wispy bluff
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I'd be dissapointed to see 0 changes, but then again i understand

rough robin
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i don't

wispy bluff
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Devs never listen to just one guy. Probably for a good reason too.

rough robin
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simple number changes arent hard to do

wispy bluff
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Its always a riot with pitchforks that gets the job done

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But there's like 20 stable people around these chats, so we can't even do that

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Just fucking buff Spear, Bullpup and SMG twins. That's all that needs to be done, the rest are whatever.
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I forgot about Precision Rifle again, that thing just keeps slipping my mind.
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And maybe Auto Sentry needs some to stop being a meme.
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Okay, now i'm done.

mint light
wispy bluff
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In "common costumers" sense, just being here often enough.

sharp owl
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playing for the first time

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I don't know what I'm doing

wispy bluff
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And not just, you know, drop in, ask how do you find squads (.t lfg) and then to never be seen again.

fossil rain
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so what you want to do is bhop and slide around and smack everything with the hammer

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fs

rose nova
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of the rundown screen