gtfo-chat

[latent palm]

more free time for me

[ruby temple]

Im never in trouble

[trim sail]

what is the best way to kill a tank ?

using pistol

[bleak pilot]

[junior latch]

Just replay the level until you finish secondary

[ruby temple]

Oye eva

Lets say i have 7 zones connected in one straight line

1-2-3-4-5-6-7

If i have 2 ppl in zone 2 and another 2 in zone 5, following the 2 zone spawning rule, can the enemy only spawn in zone 7?

[true pilot]

im pretty sure an enemy can spawn off of another player on top of a diff player

[ruby temple]

Oh no

[true pilot]

atleast i think that happens

as i had and saw people get enemies spawning on top of them

due to being far from the team

[sharp owl]

why you wanna try that in the first place 🤔

[bleak pilot]

im not sure about that, but my theory is that it doesnt matter in which room the team is in, but in which room the host is in

[ruby temple]

I want to confirm this theory so many we can have 2 people defending while another are lets saying looting in a biggggggggg zone

[sharp owl]

if its a reactor and has forced spawns yes u can have 2 others playing poker elsewhere

[junior latch]

So, im definetly not 100% sure on this but i can give you some examples for how it works at the end

Its not entirely clear if this is just due to inconsistency of when it happens or because different alarms have their own unique rules for this but it depends on which lvl and what alarm honestly.

1. r7b2, 2nd uplink. You can easily have a 4 way spread that forces spawns into 1 direction with a 0% chance to spawn on a player

2. r4a2, you do 2 alarms at the same time and stuff can spawn on each party that is 2 rooms away from each other

[robust gull]

wholesome punishing a player for falling back to a good camping spot on a reactor level by making spawns trickle in because they're in narnia

r4d1

[junior latch]

its a bit inconsistent and usually an experience thing

its more likey to work than fail in my experience

[ruby temple]

Aight, thanks

I'll try not to break the game

*try to

[robust gull]

you really don't have to

game is like senile grandpa

shits itself without even knowing it

we love it still

[ruby temple]

[analog flicker]

As far as I know. Yeah enemies can spawn ontop of you at extraction scans if you have teammates 2 rooms away from it

[bleak pilot]

a checkpoint door is peeking around the corner

[ruby temple]

Whats a good zone to defend from the 3rd wave onwards in r2d2

Zone 191 with the Bridge?

[robust gull]

there's a few schools of thought

[analog flicker]

NO. I THOUGHT I ESCAPED YOUR KIND

BEGONE

[robust gull]

the bridge is always fine. you can then camp one of the two security doors, the class 4 or the free one

both have mighty fine chokepoints

[bleak pilot]

XD
checkpoints still the most broken thing in the game

change my mind

[analog flicker]

[robust gull]

if you camp the class 4 security door you keep 2 doors open and close the one behind you at end of hallway

it's a bit weird to explain someone else can do a better job than me

[analog flicker]

I mean checkpoints but yes they are game breaking and still a easy mode add-in for newbies

If it works that is.

looks at those 5 hour long clears

[robust gull]

the best checkpoint is r7d1 final ngl. makes the suicidal thoughts quiet down when you wipe but know where the terminals are

[bleak pilot]

maliciously holds a cell during a checkpoint scan

[analog flicker]

Me holding baby and checkpoint makes me a good dad

[shut vapor]

New players just don't know when to give up

[robust gull]

technically a shit dad because it takes you seven rundowns to revive a baby

[analog flicker]

Weapon to surpass metal gear*

Upgrades man. Upgrades

[ruby temple]

LMAO

If you were a good dad you wouldnt even need to revive it

[robust gull]

you drag that shit around like a grieving gorilla for 3 years

i think. someone know when baby was first added as an objective?

[ruby temple]

R3 i think

Alt r3

[robust gull]

(sidenote i like the baby being a reoccuring objective for r7)

(pretty cool!)

[junior latch]

R2E1

[ruby temple]

When i did it with a fren we were talking about how similar it was to r7a1

R3a1

[junior latch]

R7A1 is R3A1s estranged sibling

R3A1 is generally superior tho (also has a funny glitch)

[shut vapor]

R3a1 goofy aah

[robust gull]

i have wiped r3 from my memory

[junior latch]

R3 is overall good

[robust gull]

me no like

[ruby temple]

How hard is r7e1

[junior latch]

A1 is basic
A2 is basic but in a good way
A3 is a basic reactor
B1 is bleh
B2 is good
C1 is decent
D1 is awesome

[junior latch]

top 5?

[true pilot]

its annoying af

i hate pablo

[robust gull]

designed to make you fail repeatedly. unless you have people who know it beforehand

[true pilot]

i hate glitches

[ruby temple]

Pablo

[robust gull]

that sounds super cynical, but it's my favorite level .lots of enemy variety. i just force noobs to babysit pablo as payment for a carry

[ruby temple]

What are the top 5

[true pilot]

people agree to that?

[latent palm]

[junior latch]

Probably all E tiers and R5D1?

[robust gull]

it's my way or it's the highway baby

[wispy bluff]

I genuinely liked baby sitting pablo

[latent palm]

@wispy bluff WHEN GTFO?!?

[ruby temple]

What is in r5d1

[wispy bluff]

With my regen cap i could take like 3 hits in a row before going down so we just kept dancing

[true pilot]

gamer squad

[latent palm]

No spoil

[shut vapor]

Nothing stopping them from kiting him if they want to

[bleak pilot]

people pay money for simplier things XD

[latent palm]

[wispy bluff]

Not until R6 comes back, i'm busy

[junior latch]

im gonna make grand tierlists with black dragon once R8 drops

[ruby temple]

Do it

[latent palm]

Man

[junior latch]

Podcast style

[robust gull]

you can babysit pablo for 5 minutes or spam wipe on reactor until you run out of toilet paper

[latent palm]

No

[ruby temple]

You wouldnt dare

[true pilot]

its a remake of R1D1, but way worse

[latent palm]

Shut

[shut vapor]

??????

[latent palm]

[true pilot]

i aint saying no more

[junior latch]

I mean, its EVEN deeper

[latent palm]

Aight

[shut vapor]

Easily the worst hot take this year

[robust gull]

silence germany your mom is even deeper

😎

[latent palm]

Hehe he said “ur mom”

[robust gull]

i peaked in highschool

don't fault me

[ruby temple]

Shadow tank

[true pilot]

uh no

[latent palm]

[true pilot]

tbh i would prefer that to pablo

[robust gull]

i think r5e1 would be my favorite over r7e1 if it wasn't so frontloaded in difficulty

[ruby temple]

Currently theres only 3 bosses in the game?

[latent palm]

R5E1 is hard?

[ruby temple]

Kraken grandma pablo

[balmy moat]

Immortal scout

[robust gull]

going from like 6 strikers and 1 hybrid error to only 4 chargers is x_x

[latent palm]

Error scout

Would be very fun

[true pilot]

i like R5E1

[ruby temple]

Ability can be used unlimited times

[bleak pilot]

armored flying meatball scouts

[junior latch]

6 and 1? Isnt it 4 with a potential 3 and 1?

[latent palm]

Flying scouts

[robust gull]

i don't remember exactly, but point is first error is longer and harder than the other two, big sad

[junior latch]

And you can perma melee the whole of r5e1s first error lol

[bleak pilot]

there are already custom rundowns that have those
but havent seen an armored version yet XD

[latent palm]

Ye

[junior latch]

Melee the big guy error :^ ) have fun

[latent palm]

Its cool i guess

[ruby temple]

I want an extermination gamemode

Wen

[robust gull]

normal groups aren't meleeing

[latent palm]

Bing boi error

[sharp sable]

Clear path

[robust gull]

normal being.. the other 99%

[latent palm]

Clear an exit path

Basically

[ruby temple]

As in

Unlimited waves and you can buy stuff

[sharp sable]

tank scout

unkillable quietly

[ruby temple]

Like turret mines and stuff

[latent palm]

Unlikely

[ruby temple]

Res

[sharp sable]

[balmy moat]

Immortal scout in 4-5

[latent palm]

Bro this aint tower defense

[bleak pilot]

cfoam mine

[sharp sable]

that's not the type of game

that this is

[latent palm]

What he said

[ruby temple]

Would be fun tho

[sharp sable]

it would not

that would defeat the whole point of GTFO which is doing a lot with very little, and very un-gamified

[robust gull]

no matter what, the jokes always cycle back to the egregious idea recycle of enemies.

[latent palm]

Mate you can literally put 8 waves and a refill station

[sharp sable]

no upgrades, just choose your weapons and boosters and go

[sharp owl]

yooo GTFO TD

[ruby temple]

Who doesnt love high difficulty tower defense levels

[latent palm]

And it would basically be a TD game

[ruby temple]

Theres no upgrading

[latent palm]

You basically end it and jump back into HSUs

[ruby temple]

Maybe like at the end of the gamemode spawn a few pablos

[sharp sable]

a gamemode of what you describe wouldn't feel like GTFO, it would feel like another game

[latent palm]

No time to even try to upgrade or do anything

[sharp sable]

too arcadey

[latent palm]

Omg its tru

[gusty burrow]

That would indeed be a fun kind of game, but it would also be a very different game from GTFO, so it would probably be better suited to just literally being a different game than GTFO

[wispy bluff]

Not really

[gusty burrow]

Though it's fun to get close to that kind of thing, R1C1 comes to mind

[wispy bluff]

Just create a survival mod of some kind

Hell, assuming our "storyline" is probably not gonna have a happy ending

[ruby temple]

Exactly

Its a nice break from all the stealth

[wispy bluff]

There's a decent chance (at least in my eyes) that final missions could literally be just our lads getting stuck in a final stand against an infinite horde

Then you just slam a timer on that and GG WP, survival mode ready

Perfect send off for the game

[sharp sable]

warp gate has an unhealthy obsession with schlorp and wubcat

[ruby temple]

And then warden face reveal

[ruby temple]

You havent seen me

[sharp sable]

It's literally just a jpeg of simon viklund inside the corpse of whatever the final boss is

DOOM style

[ruby temple]

[latent palm]

[latent palm]

[ruby temple]

Marriage wen

[sharp owl]

Ey ey back off

Kaiser is mine

[latent palm]

Boi whadda hell boi

[ruby temple]

Kaiser NTR

[sharp owl]

💀

[shut vapor]

[sharp sable]

yo wtf did I just come back to

💀

[latent palm]

I do not consent to all this relationship

[ruby temple]

The battle nyan

[ruby temple]

But i do

[junior latch]

Big room with a bajillion ressources

And during the timer the alarm waves go from diminished to normal to surge and then back to normal but with some bosses and giants/chargers then surge again, then bosses and bbcs and then surge + bosses

[latent palm]

[shut vapor]

We need you for the army

[sharp owl]

This is going places

[latent palm]

Yey i got fried chicken

[ruby temple]

Instead of bajillion resources

[shut vapor]

Kfc?

[ruby temple]

What if you had to input command into a terminal that told the warden what you need

And they have to send it to you

[latent palm]

Nah im asian i cant be that rich

[ruby temple]

Cause ur like defending a nuclear reactor or something

[shut vapor]

Ah panda express my bad

[latent palm]

Wrong

[shut vapor]

:')

[latent palm]

A lil down south

Guess again

[ruby temple]

thighland

[shut vapor]

Idk every place you can get chicken

[latent palm]

🇻🇳

[coarse grail]

betonamu

[shut vapor]

The local fish and chip shop

[ruby temple]

Vietnam

Im below you

[latent palm]

Yup

[coarse grail]

aw mate I had a banger the other day

[latent palm]

Mate the foods dirt cheap

I kid you not

[shut vapor]

I want some scampi now

[latent palm]

Literally i can send you half a ton of food (you pay for shipping)

[coarse grail]

I've been recommended travelling asia before, most expensive thing is to fly there and then accomodation, food etc is very cheap

[latent palm]

Literally what im sayin

[sharp owl]

Yo my African brothers are starving please bless our life

[latent palm]

We literally are opposite

Rain forest vs sahara be like:

vs

[sharp owl]

Cmooon brah 😭

[shut vapor]

💀

[latent palm]

I pay alot for donations

Even tho i make shit low money

[sharp owl]

Philanthropist in the making

[shut vapor]

I'm a student, can't afford to donate £0.01 when rounding up my purchases

[shut vapor]

[vale gale]

i wish they added back in the original 4 weapons as skins for the sledgehammer like for nostalgia sake

[burnt flume]

there are mods that do that

[swift pine]

hey guys

any germans here that want to play ?

we are already two players so we need 2 more :=

[coarse grail]

try #lfg-western-europe and read #how-to-matchmake

[analog flicker]

If they do add it into base game. People would request for cosmetics of other melee weapons more heavily

[vale gale]

i guess

[sharp pine]

what is the best guidE for extreme part of R4 E1 ?

i mean what should to do to make this level little bit easier ?

[sharp owl]

a kunai for knife, a baseball bat for knife and a traffic sign for spear

[sharp pine]

is circle kiting working ?>

[burnt flume]

that's a very non-specific question, but I guess make sure you all take good loadouts and that your code searcher is familiar with the zones

you could try melee everything, it's been done before with knives, you're likely better off shooting everything though because you get bullshit amounts of ammo

[latent palm]

Waiting for some1 to ping me for GtFo

[shut vapor]

GTFO 😔

[junior latch]

i would rn, but disgusting work

i still have to do 7 pages until next tuesday

ill finish 4 today hopefully

[analog flicker]

I would rn, but disgusting work

Preparing said 27 pallets for an order

[coarse grail]

i would rn, but disgusting work

got to calibrate my ocr for a desktop simulator

[shut vapor]

I would rn, but disgusting work

Cooking a lot of food

[junior latch]

Swap with me

[shut vapor]

You think I want to write an essay?

[junior latch]

1

more like 3

[shut vapor]

I chose STEM for a reason

[junior latch]

the stuff im writing about is mathematics, chemistry and geology

[shut vapor]

dunno how you got roped into that

[junior latch]

we had 1 month filled with lab and field work

and are supposed to write a ton of reports

[shut vapor]

whats your job

[junior latch]

im still studying

my actual job is smth completely different (and ive been on break for the last 1 1/2 months aside from 1 week pretty much)

[shut vapor]

Yikes

A bunch of reports while studying

must suck

[junior latch]

the reports are the opposite end of suck from the actual lab and field work

had to do 8-9 hours of walking and gathering information in a 3,5 km^2 area with 150 meters of height difference while it was pouring every 2nd day

shitty ass food in the area we were staying and then 3 hours of writing daily reports on the gathered data :>

[junior latch]

<@&408548765599793173>

its in lore aswell

[latent palm]

u Free yet @junior latch

[junior latch]

id send you pics

but no embed

[latent palm]

plese do

[lone wraith]

[sharp owl]

👀

[latent palm]

bout time mf showed up

or too sleepy for us?

[lone wraith]

It's 12:50 PM

Lmao

[sharp owl]

too sleepy for friends? thats a very no good friend

[lone wraith]

Imagine

[latent palm]

i dont wana hear it

u in or out?

[shut vapor]

Dm

[sharp owl]

stuck on "waiting for system assets to initialize"

any help

[magic burrow]

same hjere

[sharp owl]

can't play the gaem

[shut vapor]

Verified files?

[magic burrow]

doesnt work either

[burnt flume]

probably steam maintenance

on old version im getting network error

[sharp owl]

steam maintenance?

can't this game be played offline

[burnt flume]

the game uses steam relay servers, so if those servers are down for maintenance

no game for you

even if you're playing alone

[shut vapor]

If it's system assets then maybe your computer is just launching a bit slower

[sharp owl]

are you fuckin serious

[magic burrow]

yep, after there is a while "waiting for system assets" i get the network connection error

[sharp owl]

why do you need an internet connection to play alone

why do games continue to do this

it's so stupid

[burnt flume]

Baldur's Gate 3 stays winning

I guess it's easier to initialise connection whenever you launch the game as opposed to whenever you go to play multiplayer

[sharp owl]

so how is everyone else playing ok and just we too are cucked

are there maybe offline mods

that can let you just launch it offline

[shut vapor]

Nope

[minor crane]

me and my team were in game and then 1 of them lagged out

[sharp owl]

-_-

[minor crane]

and we just gradually all lost connection, we are all stuck with the same problem

so waiting is the only option it seems

[sharp owl]

so the only way to play this game offline is to sail the high seas

[hollow spade]

so its not only me that had the waiting for systems assets

[true pilot]

most likely steam maintananace

[narrow raven]

yes

[true pilot]

or other update shenanigans

[narrow raven]

steam maintanance

[hollow spade]

when you want to get better at soloing then steam just said "NO"

[narrow raven]

ugh welp time to wait

[true pilot]

also most likely the game saves computer space at the cost of requiring internet connection

[narrow raven]

XD

[sharp owl]

eh

[lone wraith]

How long tho

lol

[sharp owl]

not really

its 2024 almost

storage is cheap as heck

and how much can that really save

[true pilot]

i dunno

[upbeat oasis]

any clue if the game will be back soon?

[true pilot]

ask the devs

[true pilot]

i would expect it shouldnt last over an hour

[minor crane]

it's not the game that's down, it's a steam problem

[sharp owl]

and it's a game problem that it can't launch without an internet connection

[minor crane]

my friend tried to restart steam and now he can't log on.

[upbeat oasis]

when did it go down

[true pilot]

i think it just happened

[bleak pilot]

still not possible to play the game

[fathom berry]

~25mins ago

[bleak pilot]

our gtfo night

[burnt flume]

Your fault for playing gtfo

[ivory sky]

my addiction

[pine root]

I am so excited for cyber heist

[burnt flume]

The real cyberheist is getting the gamescom mission

[ivory sky]

we must

[burnt flume]

Quick! Someone find emails of 10cc devs and spoof emails/use social engineering to get the files!

[pine root]

I don’t want to social engineer 10cc

Personally

I don’t want to have a gtfo baby just for cyber heist

Sounds like way to much work idk how cops do it

[lone wraith]

Will 10cc work on something else after gtfo or disband lol

[pine root]

Cyber heist

[lone wraith]

Oh

[pallid pier]

Hey guys, I get a Network Error: No Connection error when I start the game while I do have internet.
I tried verifying the integrity of the game files, rebooting my pc, and reseating my internet cable. Nothing helps. Any clue?

[true pilot]

steam is down most likely

[winged sleet]

you're not the only one seems like we just wait it out

[shut gust]

Has there been any news as to the reason, devs or steam confirmed any outages?

[minor crane]

it seems to be steam, as some people are not being able to even log into steam

[true pilot]

i would assume steam is doing something

cause if it was dev side we would have gotten an annoucnment

[pallid pier]

Roger, then I'll wait it out a bit

[minor crane]

Purchases also seem to not be working for some people so

most definitly looks like steam

[hollow spade]

just finished a gameof league is the ofline steam thing good now?

[wicked solstice]

bro that was yesterday

[sharp owl]

steam caught lacking

[wicked solstice]

Oh was it all steam?

[modern coral]

You know it's dark times when you're playing League of Legends.

[wicked solstice]

god i can’t imagine

[unreal crystal]

i swear i saw u on league recently ray

u wanna explain urself

[shut vapor]

Clearly they meant rocket league

[dawn idol]

yeah why would he admit that?

[wicked solstice]

Accidentally deleted it like 6 months ago

Thank god

[modern coral]

ARENAS

Completely different.

[wicked solstice]

oh wait soul fighter?

[unreal crystal]

is it different ray

[wicked solstice]

yeah it looked pretty cool

[wicked solstice]

actually yeah it is

[unreal crystal]

ok but its still

[wicked solstice]

For once

[unreal crystal]

league of legends right

[wicked solstice]

Yeah

[unreal crystal]

ppl were trying to get me to try that tho

[wicked solstice]

I played like 2 SF games and then re deleted it

Yeah it’s not worth it

You have to install league of legends

[modern coral]

Smh

[sullen hollow]

servers down or something?

[sharp owl]

yes

[unborn dove]

I think so, I could not play atm

[sharp owl]

HSU is under maintenance

[modern coral]

^

[sharp owl]

gaben doin smthn

be patient

warden is fixing it

@gilded nebula hurry up idiot

wait no don't cut off the oxygen supply to my pod

sto-

[kind ruin]

@Warden shock his nuts

[sharp owl]

warden will shock your nuts

[keen narwhal]

For how long is it down?

[kind ruin]

Until his nuts getting shocked stops shorting the power to the server

[sharp owl]

ask the warden

[sharp owl]

unknown

an expedition party accidentally short circuited a nuclear reactor in r6 and took the entire area down

also for some reason the warden has been having typos in his instructions ever since that happened

weird

[leaden axle]

Mine is waitng to init system assets

[true pilot]

steam is down

[sharp owl]

the game is unavailable for several players

[leaden axle]

Huh

[true pilot]

”several”

[sharp owl]

i mean, voice channels are still alive

some are still playing

[unborn dove]

if you are already in-game, you can still play

[sharp owl]

is there some issues with central EU, can't connect

[quaint moth]

so it was not worth to punch my lan cable

[lone wraith]

Everyone can't connect

[true pilot]

whole steam

[sharp owl]

aaa lel

thanks

[true pilot]

Someone should really make a post about this so people dont keep asking

but no admins/mods/calle in sight

[sharp owl]

i searched in general news but nada

i like how over the top these icons are

[dark belfry]

[kind ruin]

Kinda like how over the top the actual secondary overload prisoner efficiency objectives are

[sharp owl]

like

secondary is already dead as heck

the other two should just be a gravestone and the last one dust

it's kinda funny

[ripe cedar]

Checkout my Farlight 84 gameplay recorded with Insights.gg
https://insights.gg/v/1rD5kGv1DnSDu24R6qjxsM

[sharp owl]

fuck i am stupid

[burnt flume]

who are you

[sharp owl]

Juwie

[burnt flume]

and wtf is Farlight 84

like a random unrelated link goes straight into virustotal

oh right insights.gg is like some website that has features you can use to annotate videos for coaching/whatever

[sharp owl]

Yup totally don't instinctively middle mouse that

[little ridge]

A light that is very very distant in 1984

An airplane? A train? A UFO? Up to the player to discover

[shut gust]

GTFO is back up and running for me

[ripe cedar]

Checkout my Farlight 84 gameplay recorded with Insights.gg
https://insights.gg/v/624JGdk6f3l7mvkaoxZ9wl

[lone wraith]

Is this guy a bot

[burnt flume]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lone wraith]

Would this be considered a violation of the no advertising rule

[keen narwhal]

well, its not working fully

only 1 of us can connect, the rest has network error

[sharp owl]

yes

pretty extremely clearly

[visual jungle]

MODS send him to detroit

[analog flicker]

[covert nova]

need 2 for a r5c2 run main only 🙂

[analog flicker]

Eyo

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[covert nova]

oh yeah im fishing in the lfg channel, but nobody's biting 😦

[outer siren]

because steam is down

[covert nova]

no it isnt

[rose nova]

it was

[covert nova]

not now 😉

🙂

[analog flicker]

You expect too much from steam servers that just somewhat came back online

(I'm not even home so it doesn't affect me)

[covert nova]

well, someone join my game so i can get r5 done

[lone wraith]

It's still down for me

[sharp owl]

gtfo says network error but dota works fine

[covert nova]

😦

[minor crane]

same here

[hasty quarry]

Steam is updating stuff apparently

[pearl lance]

GTFO still down

for me

[upbeat yacht]

same

[winged sleet]

I need my fix but steam is like lea rn

[pine root]

Checkout my YouTube stream www.YouTube/iShowSpeed

[torn ruin]

Is anyone else having trouble starting the game?

[lone wraith]

Not after that incident

[lone wraith]

Everyone is having issues connecting to steam

[sullen hollow]

servers been down for a few hours

[visual jungle]

its joever

[sinful path]

oh okay

the servers are down

[analog flicker]

sus pfp

Get turned into Takoyaki

[sharp owl]

takoyaki is so good

[vale gale]

is gtfo still down because of steam

[lone wraith]

It's so joever

steam has been down for 3 hours now

[vale gale]

ffs

[little ridge]

I've been able to get in

[sharp owl]

dam

[vale gale]

everything else works for me

[little ridge]

I did an R1B1 solo for shit and giggles and quitted

[minor ginkgo]

how'd you get in

[little ridge]

No idea

Like 20mins ago

restarted steam, booted up GTFO, this time it worked, that's it

[white raptor]

steam is back up

[vale gale]

yay

[torn ruin]

It does seem to be working for me as well

[burnt flume]

ye, works for me as well after restarting steam

[sharp owl]

@fickle solstice you can join our vc

[sharp owl]

do you not have a mic?

[fickle solstice]

I do

I did make sure that my headset is set up for voice in discord settings

I will try joining vc again

[ivory pier]

can doc add fishing to the warden bot

.fish

[sharp owl]

I've really been enjoying the DMR this past couple runs

[fickle solstice]

I think my headphones might be busted lol

Sigh

[grim hornet]

still cant get in... let me innnnnnn

[leaden axle]

It's not steam it looks like it's GTFO infrastructure :C

[lone wraith]

I got in a few min ago

Now it broke again

Lmfaooooo

[daring tide]

Same

[snow hatch]

this is silly, goofy even

[leaden axle]

Here's a ticket https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/1141842721624031242

[junior latch]

ah yes the typical tuesd... wait its thursday???

[lone wraith]

Down for 4 hours now

[junior latch]

so im not missing anything sitting on page 7

[ivory pier]

maybe you shouldnt sit on it

[kind ruin]

Is DMR better than the two tap? I love the 2t

[sharp owl]

10cc doin some behind the scenes

[sharp owl]

yes

[kind ruin]

How so

Don’t both take two shots to kill? Head and body

[junior latch]

you wanna help me with this "C_marin%=((δ ^13 C_s-δ ^13 C_t ))/((δ ^13 C_m-δ ^13 C_t ) )*100" ?

[sharp owl]

yes but with dmr u can pick your shots

[junior latch]

just gotta compile like 20 more of those values

[ivory pier]

sorry i havent been to class for 2 years

[ivory pier]

if you love the double tap you should try the bullpup and the precision rifle

[analog flicker]

I'll just take it as everyone had skill issue for 4 hours

[lone wraith]

Yes

[analog flicker]

I prefer to use knife with Melee down ngl

[hasty quarry]

still down for me

[analog flicker]

We don't talk about that

[junior latch]

LETS GOOOO
i found how to solve the fucking problem

[sharp owl]

do a podcast

[junior latch]

only like 30 more min of suffering ( i hope)

[sharp owl]

ill listen

[junior latch]

join the 2 poor peeps in 200

[sharp owl]

do the math

got all night

[shut vapor]

Is gtfo back up or

[balmy moat]

I think the correct question to ask is if Steam is working again

[rough robin]

steam was always working for me but GTFO wasn't

[shut vapor]

Steam was fine

I was playing shellshock live just fine

[balmy moat]

No, you can connect to Steam, that's not the issue

GTFO you can run, it's the connection between GTFO and Steam, iirc

And that's on Steam

[shut vapor]

So at the end of the day it's a gtfo problem

[balmy moat]

It's occured multiple times

[balmy moat]

What?

No

Devs don't do networking

You can clearly tell too since they don't really pertain to fix any "bugs" caused by network issues

[shut vapor]

I get that steam handles the networking here, but it's affecting gtfo and, from my pov, nothing else. Therefore gtfo problem

[balmy moat]

By your own logic that's a Steam issue

Not a GTFO issue

"steam handles networking" and "affecting GTFO"

🗿

[shut vapor]

Steam needs to resolve it, but it's a problem for gtfo

[balmy moat]

There you go

[shut vapor]

Therefore gtfo problem

[balmy moat]

[shut vapor]

Have some spam

It'll make you happier :D

[latent palm]

Blud was the biggest annoyance ever

[normal lake]

i do quite love meat

[shut vapor]

[shut vapor]

an acceptable response for a great meat product

[sharp owl]

WHEN R6

[lone wraith]

Some time between now and never

[merry crypt]

soon™️

[eager tundra]

Supp yall. Anybody streaming a run? I'm not able to sleep. Figured might as well watch some gameplay lol

[pearl wadi]

@normal vector is your lfg still available? no one in the vc and the join code doesn't show anything

[merry crypt]

might be a good idea to check out twitch

[balmy moat]

08/24

[sharp owl]

@balmy moat When 🥔

[balmy moat]

Potato?

[sharp owl]

Ye

[balmy moat]

I don't know when potato

[analog flicker]

Po A O

[spiral badge]

Hola, I just joined this server and I'm looking to host a lobby for R1C1. However, I am currently in my own disc server and I'm just trying to invite people to my GTFO lobby. Does anyone have any suggestions on what the best move is to go about this?

[normal lake]

no one will just join a discord server thats what this server is for

if your looking to make a long term team play with people for a few hours and whoever you enjoy playing with invite to the server rather than just expecting strangers to take you up on it

[spice stone]

I just finished R2D2 after 3 weeks and I get is a RECOLOR.

[merry crypt]

ah man

it happens

[analog flicker]

specific recolors are nice

[normal lake]

better than a identical copy of another hat you already had

[analog flicker]

majority are trash immo

[spice stone]

For real

[normal lake]

really what you have unlocked is r2e1

good luck

[spice stone]

just started it up to see how it looks

gonna Sob

[normal lake]

let me ask are you tryna finish all of rundown 2 before doing rundown 3?

[spice stone]

yea

[normal lake]

i do not recommend playing like that or you will never make it to rundown 7

[spice stone]

ya but its fun

[normal lake]

if your idea of fun is that then ig be my guest

thats a fuckin brutal way to take the game

gonna get real comfy in r4

[sharp siren]

going trough the rundowns in order its a lot more fun

[analog flicker]

Muh Immersionnnnn

[normal lake]

not when that means replaying the same map

[sharp siren]

everything its cohesive and its pretty cool to see the surprises first time

[sharp siren]

thats literally the game

you play

[normal lake]

no sense in redoing the same d / e tier map 100 times when you havent even finished most a and b tier maps

[sharp siren]

you reach as far as you can, if you die, strategize

[thick temple]

Except for the surprises that got added into the past

[analog flicker]

the only disappointment to me is enemies not yet introduced are shown earlier

[normal lake]

or move on to a different map and learn different strategies and actually enjoy the game

no reason to rush into the deep end

[sharp siren]

if your just spamming the level like a rtrrrd then thats on them

we have the same set of tools for 5 fucking years

what type of strategies are you experiencing

aside from placing a sentry and cfoaming a door

lmao

[analog flicker]

MAPPER_DRAGON Wen

[normal lake]

black dragon once again failing to realize that newer players experience things differently

[analog flicker]

not exactly.

[sharp siren]

i was a new player

i used my fucking head

after i died in a match

its not that hard

[normal lake]

thnere is a lot to be taken away from lower tier levels that can teach you useful techniques or just help close skill gap for later levels

[sharp siren]

if you go trough like what.. 16 levels until like r2e1 and you didnt learn anything

then honestly theres not gonna be a difference at all

[normal lake]

kek r1 barely even counts as a rundown beyond 2 maps

[sharp siren]

it doesnt matter

[analog flicker]

and yet newbies still learn things in R2

[analog flicker]

r1

I misclicked and replied instead

oh well

[sharp siren]

if you pub i get it you got carried or something

[normal lake]

learning fast pace playing on a easier map will not only be more fun but generally a better experience

meanwhile being thrown into the deep end will just result in repeated attempts and bashing head into a wall

aint it

[sharp siren]

A and B are not fast levels at all in all the rundowns

[analog flicker]

me who found a lfg of mod using newbies attempting R3C1 and one of them hadn't dealt with chargers before

[sharp siren]

if they you cannot strategize for 1 rundown and 95% of one

[normal lake]

yeah im talking c tier

a and b tier maps are fuckin fodder most of the time

[sharp siren]

what makes you think its better for him to tackle levels with optionals

its stupid and its wrong

[analog flicker]

(this was the pub I found where the newbies were abusing "Perfect Boosters")

[sharp siren]

people just need to learn to use their head

[sharp siren]

perfect boosters
running with item

my favorite quality of life mod

[normal lake]

very intelligent, in fact we should just throw 7-8 year olds into schooling designed for adults as most of school is redundant repeats

[sharp siren]

another time where subtonix doesnt understand my point

but thats alright

[analog flicker]

while those people subtonix speaks of exist. not every beginner is like that

A Newcomer with FPS experience/skills vs a Newcomer without it is light and day

[normal lake]

and yet here we are where your missing mine, how hard is it to process the idea that leaving a level you failed multiple times to try a different one is likely better than just trying again

if you have one map in a rundown left and struggle to beat it moving on to a new rundown wont fuckin hurt

[sharp siren]

because evenif you go back to an easier level that you already did your not learning anything

you learn trough failure

if your just autopiloting like an idiot

then you can trow him in 20 A and Bs

he would not learn

[analog flicker]

it scares me how we can just auto pilot the deep end ngl

[normal lake]

lmfao yeah thats just incorrect otherwise a player would not need easier maps at all

[sharp siren]

thats not my point

you have to use your head

not you as in you

im not insulting you

lmao

[analog flicker]

regardless. if they wanna go in chronological order. it isn't really our say

[normal lake]

someone who has played all the a-c tier will undeniably be a better player than one who has beaten the few d tier they repeatedly failed over and over again

that and it will likely be a more fun experience all around

[sharp siren]

i really doubt it

a person who actually overcomes the challenge of a hard level

its gonna be way fricking better at the game

[analog flicker]

some newbies I've pubbed with look up guides and etc as well and get better

[normal lake]

yeah which is why i said its there choice, honestly if i wish i started in the time of alts would have made the game so much more enjoyable

instead it came after gitting gud

[sharp siren]

gitting gut its way better

[normal lake]

so many levels and stealth sections made completely redundant by me replaying r7c3 over and over again

[analog flicker]

should also note. for some of us vets. We only had 1 rundown availible to us at a time

[normal lake]

yeah i know thats how it was when i started

[analog flicker]

My point is you don't need multiple rundowns to learn and get better really

[normal lake]

i remember many times there would be a level id get stuck on that just wasnt very fun to play and my team would not play the game for a few weeks

[sharp siren]

going trough easier level in wich they learn the same basics over and over wont solidify what they know already

[normal lake]

and im not saying you do need multiple

[sharp siren]

if you reach the E tier of rundown then you know your basics

its all about how you tackle the level

[normal lake]

im just saying using multiple may be a more fun way of playing than rushing hard levels senselessly

[analog flicker]

My first R7C3 clear was piss. our 4th who was a random used cfoam door bug (this ironically was the day before it was patched)

[normal lake]

you can improve both ways

[sharp siren]

so going back to an easier level its just backwards

[normal lake]

yes so while you are worse at the game playing easier levels makes more logical sense

[sharp siren]

.

read tgat

and not nitpick

you reach and E tier

you just gotta go to the drawing board

[normal lake]

yeah and im not denying that altho for r2 its not saying much compared to the other ones with a e tier

but me personally if i failed a level 3-4 times id rather jump into a new level

come back to it later

[sharp siren]

r2e1 error its still one of the hardest in the game

[normal lake]

no sense in rushing a single level

[normal lake]

not comparing the e tiers

comparing the rundowns leading up to the e tiers

[sharp siren]

that 20 min section alone kills more people

[analog flicker]

newbies who have spent 5+ hours on a clear back when it was R6/R7 only availible with CPs

[normal lake]

r7c3 for my team wasnt cleared until after every other level but e1 was beaten altho mostly because we insisted in not using cfoam

was more fun to melee everything by hand including charger scouts

still aint finished r7e1 because getting a 4 man together lately is essentially impossible with my team cus work / college schedule differences and doing it as a 3 man with a bot is a hell i refuse to live through

[analog flicker]

[latent palm]

When you finally find your wombo combo friend (you both know each other too well in double stacking mele)

[normal lake]

took like 5 hours of practice to get so consistent that charger scouts where as easy as regular scouts

[latent palm]

Could say the same but

[high ruin]

@rough robin you use obs?

[rough robin]

yeah

[high ruin]

You use CQP and if so, what number?

[rough robin]

I used to use CQP on 20 (3440x1440) but I found my filesize was way too big so I switched to CBR at 40k

[balmy moat]

I do CBR at 50k

Massive file sizes

9 hours though, that's rough

[rough robin]

CQP had it's perks though, I have a 4hr recording of gtfo that's recorded at cqp 20 that's only like 60gb cause the game is so dark often

But I tried to record a single hour of stalker gamma with that setting and I was hitting 60gb which just wasn't viable

[high ruin]

What's the main difference? Is CBR higher quality?

[rough robin]

probably lower but filesize is far more consistent

I can't really notice the quality difference and I export my videos at 30k bitrate anyways

[balmy moat]

I'm worrying about space in my disk now

Just recording at 50k

[rough robin]

if you don't export at 50k its pointless imo

[balmy moat]

I do lol

[rough robin]

if you're uploading to YT they re-encode the video too though

so idk if it's worth it

[balmy moat]

My files are so massive that YouTube is forced to change the encoding to AV1

[high ruin]

MY R5E1 completion was like 2 hours 20min, 1080p 60fps, with CQP at 19. It came out to like 26GB.

[balmy moat]

So I'm just taking full advantage of that

[high ruin]

You guys prob have big boy HDDs.

[rough robin]

nope

[balmy moat]

2 TB and already have 1 TB of videos alone

[rough robin]

I need to get one lol

[balmy moat]

I'm thinking of shipping my NAS over to get my 14 TB of storage

[rough robin]

CQP is great for GTFO, dark areas barely take ANY space

[high ruin]

I'm gonna have to build a nas at some point. The files are piling up.

And it can be spooky having it in one machine.

[rough robin]

I wanna just buy a giant 10tb HDD so I can forget about it until I inevitably fill that up too

[balmy moat]

The only problem is that they don't make 2.5 in HDDs that big of a size

[high ruin]

I always wonder if bit rot is something to be concerned about on my main backup........

[balmy moat]

I don't have space for my 3.5 in HDD bay

In my PC

[high ruin]

It's all about those big cases Void

[balmy moat]

I have a 5000D Airflow

[high ruin]

Time for that 7000D air xD

[balmy moat]

Wouldn't fit with my desk

I would probably have to elevate it to compensate for height

Wouldn't be able to use a keyboard properly

[high ruin]

Yeah. Large cases are nice to work in but are generally niche. Also sucks moving it.

I have a Fractal Meshify 2 XL and it's basically the 7000D

[balmy moat]

My 5000D perfectly fits my desk at 75.0"

[high ruin]

Yeahwellyeah my desk is like 10020 0 " so

[tawdry valve]

Ищем двух новичков для прохождения игры, мы на 3 миссии

[ruby temple]

@latent palm i summon thee

[latent palm]

5min

[ruby temple]

U wanna try r2d2?

[latent palm]

fuck that level so long and annoying

[ruby temple]

R2c1?

[latent palm]

nah

boring

[ruby temple]

Which one do you want then

[latent palm]

whatchu got not finnished

[ruby temple]

I only finished R1, half of r2 (finished b4 but nothing beyond), a third of r7(finished c1, b2 not secondary) and the a1 of the other rundowns except r5

[latent palm]

aight

R5A2-A3 i guess

[ruby temple]

I havent done r5a1

[ruby temple]

R4a2 PE?

[latent palm]

nah R4 has a tat too much errors

im pretty beat today

[ruby temple]

R7c3?

[mint light]

R4 has no more errors than R5

[latent palm]

Fr?

[mint light]

Also R5A2 and R5A3 both have errors ........

[latent palm]

or might be me feeling R4 errors being longer\

[mint light]

Pretty much. even R6 has an error in almost every level

[earnest forge]

R5E1 does have three on its own...

[mint light]

yes

[earnest forge]

Can't wait to do R6D1 reactor skip again

[mint light]

but even then. R5A2, R5A3, R5B2, R5B3, R5B4, R5C1,R5C3, R5D1, R5E1 x3

that's all but 3-4 levels

[ruby temple]

Hol up

I didnt check the time

I definitely wont have enough time to pray

[mint light]

A prayer can be just 30 sec

[ruby temple]

*play

@latent palm maybe next week

[latent palm]

biggest scam ever

[ruby temple]

My exams finish exactly 7 days from now

You can play me to your hearts content

*play with me

[junior latch]

most of these are just extraction errors (A1, B1, B2) or only for segments (C1, C2, D2, D3)
the long annoying style errors would be C3 and CX

theres a difference between smth like R4B2 and R6B2s errors

[little ridge]

I felt R4B2 error to be extremely tame and more of a chore provided everyone knows what to do

and R6B2 same to be honest

But yeah I guess your point is that R6B2 error is basically at the end of the map while R4B2 is right at the start

[junior latch]

yea the r6b2 error lasts a whole of 2 min

r4b2 is permanently there

[mint light]

I don't factor in time. error is error.

[balmy moat]

Factoring in time allows you to determine the severity of the error, alongside other external factors

[jade iron]

you could argue that r6c2ex's error is an extraction error

but then I feel like we're stretching the idea of what "just an extraction error" is

[mint light]

Hammering 3 smalls for 30 min or for 5 makes no difference. Now if it would be an error with giants or hybrids then ammo depletion becomes a factor. But then you look at the enemies spawning, not time

[mint light]

Ffs I kinda agree with Fn

😭

[balmy moat]

I did say alongside external factors….

And especially in other rundowns

You also have ramping errors

[mint light]

Yes, fair point on that one. But then again the amount of ramping errors is ....... 2?

[balmy moat]

I mean not if you expand out

[mint light]

Oh well in the end it does not matter we will both have no achievements in GTFO when it comes down to it

[balmy moat]

Top 0.0% achievements main

[mint light]

since steam did some cleanup a lot of my achievements have dropped below the 10% mark somehow 🤔

[balmy moat]

Really?

I have 3 games I own that have solid 1% under

[mint light]

Yeah. A lot of achievements I had that were above 10% mark are now below. only explanations I can think of is: LOTS more peeps got the games and did not get chiev.

Steam accounts got banned

Achievements revoked for some reason (unlegitimate unlocks??)

I know of some chievs for PD2, Ark and I think Rome 2 Total war as well

[balmy moat]

I’ve seen achievements revoked from me in SCP: 5K but that’s because they removed some achievements after update

Otherwise I haven’t had any removed

After updates etc

GTFO (test achievements), Unrailed! and BBQ Simulator are my 1% belows rn

[mint light]

Oh for me neither, I would wager they only remove if they can prove you hacked em or something

[balmy moat]

Call of Duty has had some 10% belows too

[mint light]

Rome 2 campaign clear with the Kush is easy 1% which baffles me with that factions name .....

[balmy moat]

Yea for some games it’s baffling how they can’t get the achievement

I recall for Cod MWI there was one for killing the soldier in the porta potty and it literally said what the achievement was and how to obtain it in the description

It’s still a 10% below

Very baffling indeed

[mint light]

People just don't care I guess

I remember when I was achievement hunting in PD2 stopped around the 700 chiev mark

[balmy moat]

PD2 has a shit ton of achievements

[mint light]

not even 50% of em 😭

[balmy moat]

Halo Collection does too

[mint light]

Yeah I would like to at least get the legendary completion ones. But then the game randomly decides I have not completed a mission while I most Def have .....

[gusty burrow]

Apparently some people just like, enjoy games without getting overly perfectionist or something, seems weird probably fake

[mint light]

Filthy casuls

[gusty burrow]

Exacccctly

[mint light]

Probably the same people that want permanent saves in GTFO

or a baby nerf ....

[gusty burrow]

870/1328

[gusty burrow]

I well remember the days of leaving the game running for 2 hours while people got dinner in my early days of GTFO

[balmy moat]

I bought PD2 when sale never played until my pro friend told me to, then we did hardest difficulty on First World Bank

[mint light]

That's a pretty chill stealth one

I think the goat simulator one is still considered the hardest?

[balmy moat]

Really?

Goat simulator?

Getting over it seems harder

[mint light]

which one was that

[balmy moat]

There’s like a steam achievement for 50 climbs or some shit

Getting Over It with Bennett Fody or something

[mint light]

Noooo I mean the goat simulator heist!!! in PD2

[balmy moat]

Oh

LMAO

Mbad

[mint light]

Yeah they had some weird collabs

[mint light]

i am at 702 :/

[balmy moat]

Me at 10 or some low number 🤓

[junior latch]

0

[mint light]

do all heists on hardest diff (unlocks all the other diff achiev) to boost quick. especially stealth heists which are insanely easy even on hardest

[little ridge]

PD2 embodies one of the issues I have with achievements

Put an achievement for really the most basic shit and at some point it just looks bloated as fuck

Take GTFO for example

[shut vapor]

A lot of achievements these days are just menial tasks

[little ridge]

Dont put an ach for every main clear

Just put one for obtaining the mask of the rundown and maybe 1 for each PE

Even then I certainly wouldn't finish a rundown so I can get the achievement, I just do to finish the game

It was such a bizzarre complain that people had in steam forums that I never understood

If you aren't going to finish an expedition to get a cosmetic, how are you going to be more incentivized by an achievement

[shut vapor]

The real achievement in gtfo is the satisfaction of clearing a challenging lvl

[little ridge]

And even then it's personal stuff only tbh

It's the same thing with Rundown masks, I like to have them but I dont consider them a status symbol or whatever

Especially since someone could just cheat/glitch/hack/whatever their way to them

[shut vapor]

I'm finally gonna be able to carry my weight in game

[little ridge]

Same shit why I dont care about "checkpointless badge"

This fluff has a sense in PvP stuff

[brazen sonnet]

I remember beating R7B3 PE back in the day with my original squad that I started playing the game with. We've been at it for 6 hours total with lots of complete and checkpoint resets but we stuck through it
The feeling I got when the Expedition Complete screen popped up was amazing - one of the best days of that year for me easily.

[shut vapor]

I remember clearing r5e1 for the first time. Only took 3 hours:')

[brazen sonnet]

Ahh I feel ya, got relatively lucky with that one and cleared it on the second try, but with three experienced people that were looking for a hired gun - still extremely challenging though, we got the clear after two and a half hours ^-^

When they told me not to shoot Pablo when we opened the first door I was like "Who's Pablo?" and was in for the trauma of my life

[shut vapor]

Back in the day when i only had like 200 hours 😔

[brazen sonnet]

Like, you're telling me NOT to shoot this thing??!!

[shut vapor]

Frrrrr

[brazen sonnet]

Those were the good old times

[shut vapor]

Now we have much more spooky mod enemies

[brazen sonnet]

Wish I could play the game again for the first time tbh, my best memories are from then

[brazen sonnet]

Never touched a mod actually!

But am contemplating it

[shut vapor]

I'd recommend Pack Helper and Resource Helper

[junior latch]

They rly have to be interesting in design

Obviously that would include stuff that is already done by some in the community but thats also decently common

[junior latch]

Thats.. r7e1 and not r5e1 tho

[shut vapor]

[burnt flume]

pablo outdated, now i call him grandpa

[little ridge]

pablo can be anagrammed to lab op

[wispy bluff]

The average achievement rate in steam stats. You can even put it in your steam profile.

[little ridge]

Sorry but if game doesn't have achievements at all that rate stays the same?

[junior latch]

Also let me think whats my most exciting clear feelings in the moment

Prob one of R4B1, R4C3 and R5D2

First 2 were levels my group was stuck in as beginners. And on R5D2 the escape was just exciting (we also did wipe twice before that)

Other than that… probably my first Eval 4:08

[brazen sonnet]

Oh heck

Well that's on me for texting and working at the same time, mixed up the numbers, sorry

[little ridge]

Personally R4E1 Extreme and maybe R7E1

[brazen sonnet]

Sorry about the mixup X) Actually am still currently grinding away on R5E1, made it to extraction twice but never got the clear...

[little ridge]

R4E1 Extreme felt more like the end of frustration than exciting tbh ngl

Perhaps also the first PE I did, og R4A3 PE

[junior latch]

R4E1 wasnt that hype for me
1st clear in og was with bread (who also didnt clear/play it yet), pachi and beth so

And then 2nd clear in alt was after the level ruining 2 runs with heavy desync

Dont get me wrong its a great level

[brazen sonnet]

I feel ya, some clears just leave you kind of drained mainly, It think that was the case for me with R4B2 or C2 - can't fully recall

[coarse grail]

OG R3D1 on the last session we had before R4 was released. Close call with 3 down on the last blood door
R4E1Ex was the most recent win on a level after many attempts, very nice to get at last

[wispy bluff]

Probably. Which is neat. But it will indeed be an incentive one way or another. Achievement culture is probably a thing.

[balmy moat]

Achievement culture in GTFO previously was cosmetics

Cosmetics were basically signs of achievement of what you have done in GTFO

I doubt it’d change

I.e the rate

[sharp owl]

Are servers still down from yesterday?

[wispy bluff]

It's not the same. I can't explain how, but it just isn't.

[balmy moat]

(Agree with Sleepo)

DJDNA also had a similar view

Some people don’t get achievements even if it is stupid easy to obtain

[wispy bluff]

Goes both ways, as always.

[analog flicker]

Having just woke up. I read this way wrong.
read it as "sleep with beepo"

[wispy bluff]

I was on TF2 achievement hunt recently. Fucking base jumper, man. Had to jump and parachute every living second and still took like a week.

And that was only demoman. Now I have to do the same for soldier, but at least he's more fun to play. Even has a dedicated rocket launcher for it.

[junior latch]

To add onto this
This was actually noticeable in R6, after that not so much

You had the red drip? Should be a good player or smth

[little ridge]

Yeah people called lugubrious "the flexing palette" before Ext got out and it was easier to get

or something like that

[junior latch]

Yup

at the time it was the closest we ever got to a cosmetic being a hard flex