gtfo-chat

[sharp owl]

R2B2 knife

[junior latch]

you wouldnt take 4

[sharp owl]

You can take knife

You should take knife

[junior latch]

Spear is just questionable

[sharp owl]

Be the cool guy

[junior latch]

Worst combat melee

[sharp owl]

What about 2 giants next to each other

[sharp owl]

Sniper

[rough robin]

[junior latch]

and just a downgrade to the other melee in most stats

[sharp owl]

Waste already limited ammo

How would you buff spear

[robust gull]

you can't

you need to nerf the sledge

no melee weapon can look pretty when sledge has it all

[sharp owl]

make it the same as sledge but more range + slightly worse charge

[junior latch]

Light tap dmg to 3
Charged dmg to 19.4
Fix both stamina related bugs
Make it sprint
Increase environmental multi

Thats the way to make spear a hammer similar strength

[sharp owl]

Why does env multi matter

Locks and doors

Apart from convenience

or, make spear deal 10000 damage but break after 1 hit

that would be rather funny

[sharp owl]

We're back to my mine at the end of the spear idea

[robust gull]

i prefer spear over everything lately just because the raw roleplay value of hunting mammoth with the boys in the 28000 bce vibe

[sharp owl]

🙏 Amen my brother. 🙏

[junior latch]

for as how to make it interesting and decent

Buff base dmg to 4
Buff charged dmg to 20
Fix stam bugs
Heavily increase environmental multi
Increase stagger multi

Now its heavy killer spear, ready to hunt mammoths, tanks and moms

[robust gull]

unga bunga john caught the common cold rip john lived a ripe 17 years

[high ruin]

Most weapons in the game are chill in earlier levels. They'll work. It's when you start getting to like late C tier onward where loadout starts to matter a bit more.

[sharp owl]

fucking spear is so hard to balance

we have 3 good melees doing 3 different good things

[junior latch]

If you wanna keep it unique yes

otherwise no

[flat perch]

hi tank, hi mom, pls stay still for 6 seconds, heeeeere i come... wait for it....

[junior latch]

Eeeeeeeeeh

theres hammer
Theres knife for small speed clearing

bat barely has a niche with hammer rn

[sharp owl]

Actually a better question is

hammer is well rounded
bat has powerful staggers
knife is fast as fuck boi

so spear should be the damage dealer

[junior latch]

Hammer staggers more than bat :>

youd need to nerf hammer first

then buff spear dmg

then i guess

[sharp owl]

i was about to say

that hammer needs a nerf

and make spear deal actual dmage

not stabbing sleepes with a fork

What role remains for the spear to fill
Knife: Speedy Stealthy small sleeper murder
Bat: Versatile stagger machine
Sledge: Versatile big damage weapon
Spear: ??? Role

Dunce

[junior latch]

make it a big guy/boss melee

[wispy bluff]

None

[junior latch]

which in exchange is slow af

[wispy bluff]

In ideal world it should be giant killer

[azure dock]

Spear is to stab scouts from further away :)

[rough robin]

bat's 'powerful stagger' comes from it's speed over hammer

[wispy bluff]

Its already kinda in that position, but hammer is still just a superior tool if you learn it proper

[daring tide]

Double the range of the spear for lols

[rough robin]

spear does pitifully more damage than hammer

2.75 points was it?

[wispy bluff]

13%

[sharp owl]

But then 1% charge staggers more for smalls at least

[wispy bluff]

68 damage vs 60 of a hammer with occi

[junior latch]

Yea, bout that
Litteraly doesnt matter when you start out with 40 more stagger dmg per hammer on first hit

its the same issue why we dont use bat for door breaking in speedruns

[sharp owl]

Its 6x multi

[junior latch]

hammer upfront full charge just SLAPS

[rough robin]

im talking more about how you can spam an enemy to death with bat but with sledge it recovers from the swing too slowly and they can sometimes get time to scream

but yeah the general rule of gtfo melee is just "hammer op"

[sharp owl]

speedruns vs a casual player is very different

ngl

If you learn how to fast charge tap the bat becomes whatevs

Fast charge taps?

[junior latch]

Who door breaks in casual runs lol

[rough robin]

me when I don't wanna hack the lock

[sharp owl]

thats the point

[junior latch]

Same

[robust gull]

me when a hack lock gives me cancer

[junior latch]

Small hacklock doors deserve to be bonked

[sharp owl]

Charge Hammer like 1 % u get full stagger value on smalls

[wispy bluff]

If only there was a melee that could break hack locks

[sharp owl]

hack locks should have lock melters placed conveniently 1m away from the lock

[wispy bluff]

Hm

[sharp owl]

Or rather enough to stun lock

[wispy bluff]

Is it too late to upgrade our knife to a data knife from Titanfall?

Stab it into the lock to hack it

Neat FPS animations attached, of course

[sharp owl]

Wait

At any % of charge the weapon will use it's charged stagger multi?

[sharp owl]

spear

[rough robin]

knife being able to cut the wire of hack locks would be funky

[sharp owl]

I know for hammer is idk but rest

[trim heath]

• rng chance of a feedback shock

[sharp owl]

Prybar of the hammer being sble to do prybar things..

[rough robin]

nah if you cut the wrong wire it just blows up

[trim heath]

sticking metal things inside of electronic circuitry is not typically a smart move

[rough robin]

you can't stop me and my fork

[junior latch]

@sharp owl you do know hammer doesnt need any charge to stagger smalls anywhere?

[sharp owl]

It's not that bad of an idea

[sharp owl]

doesnt sledge have a rubber handle like any sledge irl?

[trim heath]

never know which corners the engineer cut or which wires are exposed

[sharp owl]

Yeah

It's not an outlet it's a circuit

[junior latch]

it does 3 dmg, x 3 stagger multi = 9 stagger dmg on 5 needed

Min charge does nothing there

[sharp owl]

Uses less power

48v

[trim heath]

do you really think the Warden has a high enough regard for human life to consider that?

[sharp owl]

And also something will probably blow up before you get shocked from the current

[sharp owl]

I just remembered it's faster that's all 💀
Excuse my dumbass

[junior latch]

ah dw, thats what i thought you meant at first

Anyhow back to topic

Spear SUCKS

[raw shard]

I break doors in casual runs lmao

[rough kiln]

Same

I'll be meleeing the wave regardless

[sharp owl]

Breaking hack small doors that aren't needed is always the play

[junior latch]

since shotgun sentry got 3 buffs in a row we only have spear left as the weapon/tool that is actually detrimental to have

[rough robin]

maybe we can convince the devs to replace it with an crash axe / hatchet

devs can have a little removed content as a treat

[rough kiln]

Hatchet is not real [Not fact checked]

[junior latch]

give us a saw cleaver

gotta do my bloodborne cosplay

[rough robin]

beastman's saif superior

[junior latch]

would honestly be rly effective too

[wispy bluff]

Uh, Bullpup?... My child needs some too

[sharp owl]

a rubber grip decreases the amount of fuck up you can do no?

like it falling out of your hands

[junior latch]

Needs buffs? Yea

Its not THAT lvl of detrimental tho

[sharp owl]

and potentially alerting a sleeper

[rough kiln]

Bullpup is a noob trap. If you fix it it's not a meme anymore

[rough robin]

i'd probably put the auto sentry down in the awful tier too

[wispy bluff]

Gud

Oh yeah, we have to do something with auto sentry too

[trim heath]

potentially, but esp with the convoluted timeline rubber may not wear well

[junior latch]

auto sentry is similar to hel pp

[sharp owl]

they should make bullpup shoot rubber bullets

[rough kiln]

Bullpup has severe inefficiency issues with little upside

[junior latch]

there is fringe cases you could argue for

[wispy bluff]

The thing though

[trim heath]

I love the bullpup rifle except for the reload

[rough robin]

idk man even on surge-y levels like Crib we just brought 3 bursts (tbf auto wasn't out then) and it worked fine

[junior latch]

auto sentry and shotgun sentry should just be combined

[trim heath]

which feels eternal

[junior latch]

makes 10 times more sense

[wispy bluff]

With HEL PP you are in cotnrol of spray and can choose targets to stagger, while sentry just picks whatever

[rough robin]

auto sentry should spray side to side

[junior latch]

and isnt hard to code like doing a specific targeting system for them

[wispy bluff]

It needs some aoe element to it to be truly effective

[junior latch]

Shotgun auto sentry

boom

[wispy bluff]

be it reducing accuracy to corridor spray or just giving it explosive properies... i dont know

Honestly yeah

[rough robin]

blunthead pellets

[wispy bluff]

or maybe HELing it up too

[junior latch]

Practicall does that already with it missinf 80%

[wispy bluff]

Why not, right?

Just +1 pen will make it much better

[junior latch]

auto sentry misses as much as shotgun sentry

[junior latch]

Not rly

[rough robin]

awful reload and stats that don't even begin to make up for it

[wispy bluff]

put 2 into a crossfiring position

[rough robin]

why does the shotgun sentry aim for the head

[sharp owl]

isn't shotgun sentry like good rn?

[rough robin]

if it aimed for the neck (So more pellets would hit chest) it'd be so good

[raw shard]

they all do

[wispy bluff]

I wouldn't say "Good", but its okay

[rough robin]

it still is good

[junior latch]

just make it a shotgun (high spread, slight delay for stagger to take effect) auto sentry lol

[raw shard]

it's just the way sentries work

[wispy bluff]

Its not straight up horrible like it was

[rough robin]

yes but on a shotgun it makes no sense

[raw shard]

It makes burst and sniper miss chargers with no head too

lol

[rough robin]

shotgun sentry excels against big dudes and doesn't require very good placement like sniper

[rough kiln]

What do you mean of course it makes sense

The first pellet hits the head

[trim heath]

I never really noticed too much lacking. TBH most of the time I attribute it to my poor accuracy/wasting rounds

[rough kiln]

Then the other like 5 hit the wall behind the head

Perfect

[junior latch]

„Excels“ idk about that

[rough robin]

i've seen things.

shotgun sentries chewing up big chargers for breakfast

the horrors

[junior latch]

meanwhile sniper sentry killing the giant 50 meters out easily

Honestly it requires very good placement

while sniper needs obvious but specific ranges

[rough kiln]

Shotgun sentry was only ever good because it multiplied its damage by the number of players in the lobby before they fixed it

[raw shard]

yeah just give it 5 business days to start shooting

[junior latch]

if i had reign over sentrys

[rough robin]

the power of friendship!

[rough kiln]

The head targetting sentries have now make it useless

[sharp owl]

does sniper sentry deal as much as a sniper?

[raw shard]

no

[rough robin]

more actually

but no precision bonus

[rough kiln]

I don't know why it doesn't have a separate targetting mode to aim at the torso

[junior latch]

1. remove bio symbiosis
2. buff sniper back to r6 levels
3. fuse auto and shotgun sentry (lowish, but aoe dmg with decently quick firerate and lots of ammo)

[sharp owl]

then killing scouts with shotty sentries would sugg

[raw shard]

Just bring back sentry back damage like

why remove that

[rough robin]

god I would love to see bio symbiosis gone

why make sentrys crap without bio

[junior latch]

So players dont have to do shitty placements

[rough robin]

it's not like the game needed MORE incentive to bring biotracker

[raw shard]

How does that lead to shitty placements

[rose nova]

behind a door

[rough kiln]

I've seen how people place sentries even without back damage

[rose nova]

ahre

[junior latch]

Behind enemies = less headshots and less shooting into coming waves

[rough kiln]

It doesn't really have an impact

[raw shard]

I still place it facing backs of enemies sometimes lmao

[rough kiln]

They don't need headshots when they're doing a flat 2x damage

[junior latch]

thats the point im trying to make

[rough kiln]

Especially since enemy heads have such low hp and pop early anyway

[junior latch]

its illogical for any new guy

and not fucking needed

[rough robin]

i just figured they took out sentry back damage cause it was busted

[rough kiln]

How so?

[rough robin]

made them too good

[rough kiln]

Every other damage source has back damage

Including mines

[junior latch]

its one of those mechanic that some people somehow have nostalgia for

[rough kiln]

Melee does back damage, guns do back damage, mines do back damage, sentries.. don't?

Sentries are the only inconsistency

[rough robin]

mines do back damage? odd

[junior latch]

this would mean mines can 1 shot giants?

[rough kiln]

And it makes shotgun sentry and autosentry suck, a lot

[sharp owl]

auto sucks

[junior latch]

auto sentry back dmg wouldnt fucking matter

[rough kiln]

Err I might be confusing back damage with headshot damage on mines

[rough robin]

auto sentry back damage LOL

[rough kiln]

Mines can "headshot" enemies if placed correctly

[junior latch]

Yes

[rough robin]

like adding another mosquito to your mosquito-bite damage

[raw shard]

Point still stands that if guns do back damage, it's weird to have sentries not

[junior latch]

so tools dont do back dmg to enemys

[sharp owl]

place auto sentry during a class 3 alarm
finish alarm
look inside
2 bullets left

[junior latch]

which is consistent

[rough kiln]

Auto sentry could use some help

[rough robin]

shotgun sentries after a surge alarm

[junior latch]

back dmg on sentry is not a good mechanic for tool placements

Its basically just a flat 2x dmg buff to them. So it would lead to dmg nerfs across the board… yay

[analog flicker]

uses max sentry cpu speed with Auto sentry

[junior latch]

Yea but not back dmg lol

Just give it some aoe

[sharp owl]

Shotgun sentries after a hard day of doing nothing

[wispy bluff]

I undersstand your point

[rough robin]

THEY DO STUFF

[sharp owl]

Yeah like take up my tool slot

[wispy bluff]

But also i was one of the people who was not a fan of backwards sentry meta

[rough robin]

As the legal representative of shotgun sentries, you will be hearing from my lawyer.

[junior latch]

^

[raw shard]

wdym aoe lol you wanna give it a grenade launcher

[junior latch]

btw back dmg is one of the mechanics players take a long time to learn by themselves if they ever do

[wispy bluff]

Small explosive bullets

They exist

[junior latch]

why gate keep sentry power with it

[rough robin]

unironically replace auto w/ flamethrower turret that doesn't hurt that bad but makes them flail and stumble

[raw shard]

it would honestly benefit from a fire rate reduction

[rough robin]

watch the game's FPS go down to 5

[junior latch]

Shotgun auto sentry (low dmg)

reduce fire rate to similar to shotgun

[wispy bluff]

This, unironically

[junior latch]

now it staggers smaller waves

[raw shard]

I mean that's just completely changing the sentry type

[analog flicker]

Newcomers saying they 4 hammered giant and he didn't die and screamed and they didn't understand why.
(All hit the front)

[raw shard]

but yeah that would help

[junior latch]

It actually existed in modulation i think?

[raw shard]

if they just

got rid of auto

[junior latch]

its kinda fusing auto and shotgun

getting rid of both hard to balance ones

[analog flicker]

Not if I equips max sentry cpu speed

[raw shard]

remove both and add auto shotgun

I can see that being a good idea

[rough robin]

or...add autoshotgun but keep regular shotgun

[junior latch]

also please remove bio symbiosis and rebuff sniper sentry

[sharp owl]

What is shotgun supposed to do

[raw shard]

Vanity

[sharp owl]

It's so slow

[raw shard]

wait do you mean sentry or actual shotgun

[rough robin]

kill faster and burn through ammo quicker as a result

[raw shard]

cause pump is good

[sharp owl]

Sentry

[raw shard]

oh yeah that's just vanity imo lol

[rose nova]

shotgun sentry slow?

[sharp owl]

Think so

Used it twice

[analog flicker]

[sharp owl]

Didn't really do much

[rough robin]

was it with bio?

[sharp owl]

Vs burst

No

[rough robin]

thats the problem

[rose nova]

shottie sentry shoots so fast
ah w/o bio there u go

[rough robin]

shotgun sentry is like sniper it relies on bio symbosis a LOT

[sharp owl]

Why does it need bio

[junior latch]

sentries imo are currently worse than melees
(Overall comparable tho btw)

Both have a super versatile king:
(Burst and hammer)
Both have the very specific one that sucks when it isnt vs that (sniper and knife)
Both have the one that is kinda just the first but worse with more things you gotta watch out for when using it and less impact (auto vs bat) and both have the one that doesnt rly have a purpose at all (shotgun and spear)

[sharp owl]

It's a shotgun

[analog flicker]

Bio symbiosis

[raw shard]

bio symbiosis

[rough robin]

detection time goes from 500ms to like 100ms, fire rate doubles, ammo doubles

bio symbosis is ridiculous on shotgun sentry

[analog flicker]

Did you read the description?

[sharp owl]

Yes

But it's a shotgun

[rose nova]

and

[rough robin]

biotracker make shotgun shot more

to put it simply

[analog flicker]

15 dmg. Unreliable pellet rng

[sharp owl]

If an automatic sentry doesn't need bio why would the shotgun need it

Shotguns require less accuracy

[junior latch]

love me someone whos new and then heads into gun/melee weapon talks

[junior latch]

Bio symbiosis doesnt make sense

[rough robin]

do you want a shotgun or a shotgun that shoots double the shells

[sharp owl]

I don't think you under what i mean

[rough robin]

there is no lore reasoning for bio symbosis

it's just something they added to prop up some sentries

[rose nova]

is just magic

:]

[analog flicker]

Symbiosis makes shotgun sentry lock on faster. Better ammo efficiency

[sharp owl]

What is the poit from a game design perspective of making bio symbiosis a thing on sentries, and on shotgun specifically out of everything

[rough robin]

no idea

it was their weird way of buffing it

[sharp owl]

It's the most coumter intuitive shit ever

[rough robin]

instead of just making the shotgun do that normally

[rose nova]

counter intuitive?
i dont
i am not gettin it

i mean i can get critizinin the bio symbiosis

but not by these reasons

[rough robin]

its really funny how bio symbiosis makes it not spend shells somehow? like the other two parts at least makes sense

[rose nova]

ask why theres a gas automatic shotgun with a funny sight

[sharp owl]

Why is there a gas automatic shotgun with a funny sight

[rose nova]

there u go

[wispy bluff]

My best guess is that its just an interesting game mechanic to have. Because its just something that kinda makes sense - we can see the tracked targets, so surely sentry can use that info too somehow - and bam, bio sybiosis

[sharp owl]

Fucking rectangle sight

[rose nova]

is funny

i love it

[wispy bluff]

When that mechanic was introduced i was genuinely all for it

[rough robin]

the makers of that sight when the shotgun doesn't have a duckbill choke

[analog flicker]

looks at scattergun sight

[sharp owl]

Scattergun sight is legit the best sight in the game

[sharp owl]

it makes sense

No clutter

at least

[rough robin]

in a game with overdesigned optics, a basic iron sight is king

[sharp owl]

Just one point

YES

lmao

[wispy bluff]

But now we're in a position where both snipe and shotgun are dogshit without bio crutch, and people just don't bio enough and you can't bio on large enough maps so sniper is shafted either way.

[sharp owl]

Literally give me a dot PLEASE

[analog flicker]

It's sad more people than i'd like. don't know what a duck bill choke is

[sharp owl]

Iam BEGGING

[rough robin]

the Drekkar 5.56 rifle sight >>>>

[rose nova]

hel rifle

[rough robin]

just a simple green dot

[rose nova]

hel rifle is 2 circles and a dot or somethin

[wispy bluff]

It was so big brian of a mechanic that it went all the way back around to just being a nerf to unorthodox sentries

[rough robin]

my favorites gonna be the 870 shotgun sight

[sharp owl]

with dirt on it

[rough robin]

you like circles for aiming? How about a circle around your circle.

what is it used for? I dunno

[analog flicker]

Sniper when it wasn't a Triangle

[rough robin]

true bbut everything in this game has dirt on it

the DMR scope in the right light looks like someone busted on it

[sharp owl]

devs ruining sights by making them fucking dirty

Nah just overdesigned

Like seriously

[sharp owl]

that actually is true

[rough robin]

I could go on for days about how horrible the DMR's sight is

[lone wraith]

How do I even use the DMR scope

[rose nova]

skill issue

[lone wraith]

It is literally just lines

REEEEEE

[rose nova]

dmr scope is not bad

[rough robin]

fucking precision weapon using a groove as the aim point LOL

it should be flipped upside down

and use the top of the point

[analog flicker]

looks at scopes in WW1/WW2

Uh huh...

[rough robin]

anyone who made that sight would get laughed out of business

[sharp owl]

I find it fine

[lone wraith]

Real

[sharp owl]

Like it's usable

[rough robin]

it's usable but Why

[sharp owl]

What happened to just dots in the middle

Devs probably wanted visibility to be shit so we were scared

[rough robin]

EOTech must've went out of business in the GTFO universe

[rose nova]

why not

[sharp owl]

BREAKING

[rose nova]

:]

[sharp owl]

Prisoner efficiency goes up 200% after swapping to red dots

[lone wraith]

Or Warden is actually a broke mofo

[sharp owl]

Mortality rate drops by 83% overnight

[rough robin]

MFW I can spit farther distance than my shotgun's flashlight

[lone wraith]

Getting weapons from donations

[analog flicker]

Ah yes. This EOTech Holographic optic will aid me in my Nam-V affliction

[rough robin]

eat it

it'll probably do something

[sharp owl]

You're not wrong

[analog flicker]

I won't die to Nam v

[rough robin]

if I knew anything about game development i'd make a 'sights improved' mod

[lone wraith]

Isn't there already a sight mod

[rose nova]

just put the scattergun sight in every weapon

it breaks?

too bad its still scattergun

[sharp owl]

Don't mind if i do

It's always reassuring to know that a toothpick would be better

Than the futuristic 3d stuff

[rose nova]

i like the futuristic

[hollow merlin]

modern problems require modern workarounds

[rose nova]

is very future

[analog flicker]

I'm more sad the sights are better looking through VR

[lone wraith]

How is vr gtfo lol

[sharp owl]

Oh god

[analog flicker]

Gtfo sights are similar to real ones. (If you turn fast enough you can see the optics)

But in-game ads is nearly static with little sway

[rough robin]

is there?

[analog flicker]

There is no "reticle changing" mod to my knowledge

[lone wraith]

MushSight

[sharp siren]

You shut the fu up

[analog flicker]

Mush sight just makes it so you can run low textures and your reticles will remain at Full textures

Because your texture setting affects reticle quality

[lone wraith]

It was advertised as keeping your sights clear

[rough robin]

yeah i think they meant keeping it clear on low textures

[lone wraith]

Bruv

[rough robin]

not clearing up the actual reticle

[analog flicker]

Should note. The creator to that mod also made the lowspecgaming mod.

[lone wraith]

Yes

But when I thanked Jish for it he said to thank time1pm 🤔

[analog flicker]

Published under jish

Worked on by time1pm probably

[sharp owl]

Jish did an amazing job all credit and royalties to him

[analog flicker]

Hm it does state custom sights

[sharp owl]

you both stfu

[lone wraith]

What if we all GTFO

[rough robin]

catchphrase!

[analog flicker]

What if Grongus Plays

[rough robin]

me when I play a game (catchphrase roll credits)

[lone wraith]

Why is Sentry CPU and Tracker speed both on one booster lol

Wasted potential 😔

[rough robin]

same with trip mine dmg and tracker speed

on bold/aggro's

[lone wraith]

That has atleast a little bit of use. If you ever find a single use tripmine while carrying biotracker

[rough robin]

does it apply to picked up ones?

[wicked solstice]

Yeah

[wicked solstice]

Makes it more versatile

Like I usually don’t run biotracker

So it’s nice it has both

[analog flicker]

I thought it didn't apply to disposable mines

[wicked solstice]

i am spreading misinformation apparently

[lone wraith]

🤔

I guess I am also spreading misinformation

oops

[rough robin]

the lies and deceit in this discord is simply too much to bear

[latent palm]

WAHT?!

[sharp siren]

BITCH

[latent palm]

YOU TAKE THAT BACK

[sharp siren]

HELL NAW

[latent palm]

YOU FOCKIN BIATCH

[sharp siren]

SHUT YO ASS UP

He tried to shut us up can you believe that guy

[latent palm]

DONT YOU LECTURE ME WITH UR R6 SHITE

[balmy moat]

Speaking of which, why have none of y'all looked into R4D1

[latent palm]

already did

didnt see anything out of the ordinary

[high ruin]

What's there?

[latent palm]

R8 release date (REAL confirmed by Soy)

[high ruin]

In terminal somewhere? I don't believe.

[full forge]

you mean r6?

[latent palm]

no

i mean R8

For real

no joke

[last parrot]

(for real)

[sharp owl]

Yo Ladies calm down

[analog flicker]

Real_Dragon

[balmy moat]

When is R6 trailer again?

[true pilot]

23

if i remember correctly

[balmy moat]

Uh

Did our messages just get purged

The hell

[analog flicker]

I went to test it in case and yes. mine damage does not affect disposble mines

[analog flicker]

?

[balmy moat]

I listed 4 potential zones for R6 release

In this chat

Gone

[shut vapor]

Long are the days I dream for when i can play gtfo again 😔

[analog flicker]

[shut vapor]

20 fps gaming

[balmy moat]

@latent palm Doing speculation now

Next week R6 maybe

1 day after release trailer

08/24

Time/date stamp for non-US people are DD/MM/YYYY

Closest thing we found was 24/08/2023 (not this exactly but close enough)

R4D1 Z67A Terminal

[latent palm]

yea could be R6

i mean

ALT R6 could be hint for R8

@worn kiln he found it

[gaunt torrent]

hey would anyone like to help me? im new to the game

and need a team

[latent palm]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[gaunt torrent]

@latent palm thank you

[latent palm]

dont mention it

[worn kiln]

[latent palm]

now can i get the role ?

[worn kiln]

hmm

well techinally it was voidspace that found it

[latent palm]

yuh but i started the hunt

[worn kiln]

achsually i started the hunt by telling you about it 🤓

[balmy moat]

Speedrun mapper for the win

[latent palm]

I JUST WANT THE ROLE

[worn kiln]

if his prediction for the release date is right ill give the role

otherwise its not challenge complete

[latent palm]

very cool

well see

[worn kiln]

maybe i should come up with an actual challenge to do next time i want to have fun

[latent palm]

right now

[balmy moat]

Wait what role

There is a role?

[latent palm]

cook it up

[balmy moat]

Huh

Did I miss something

[latent palm]

no

it will be

a role

[worn kiln]

eh its not really for what i did but there is a role which is intended for some community events

[latent palm]

if the prediction you found was right

[worn kiln]

the community events are just, kinda in limbo right now so im stealing the role

[latent palm]

[balmy moat]

Lol

Maybe I can get the Mapper Cult role

[worn kiln]

you want the mapper cult role?

[latent palm]

how to even get that role tho?

i want it toooooo

[balmy moat]

I have no idea lol

[balmy moat]

Sure

Fun challenge tho

[worn kiln]

@remote grotto can i give people the mapper cult role

[latent palm]

scouts are friends i still want tho

[balmy moat]

I misread 4 rooms away as 4 zones away

4 rooms away is very different from 4 zones away

[worn kiln]

that one you just have to ask for in mod mail nicely, say something like "i wont hurt da scouts plz give role "

[worn kiln]

minor miscalculation

[latent palm]

oh yeah

i thought

you have to hunt every scout ever

[worn kiln]

no it is quite literally the opposite

you can never harm a scout again or we will remove the role /s

[latent palm]

welp lets wait for chase to gibe me mapper cult

[worn kiln]

thats if he gives me permission

[latent palm]

applying for mods

[worn kiln]

maybe he never wants anyone else to have it

[latent palm]

the form is so funni

[balmy moat]

I'm assuming that Mapper Cult is for mapping entire levels

If that's the case then yea I'd be happy with that

I map maps all the time for speedrunning LOL

[worn kiln]

not exactly

its actually for the mapper tool

[balmy moat]

Oh then nvm lol

[worn kiln]

which was "removed"

[latent palm]

still there lol

[balmy moat]

WardenMapper moment

If that's the case with that role I don't really mind not getting it, I misinterpreted it

[topaz ridge]

is there a way to mod the game and get all the apparel?

[rough robin]

yes but it doesn't stay on your unmodded version

[topaz ridge]

well i wont get banned if i join another unmodded lobby

cuz its just apparel mods

[latent palm]

[jovial thistle]

https://dakkhuza.com/is-the-mapper-in-gtfo-yet/

[balmy moat]

Oh, that one, there's a mod for that one now

MapperTracker

[jovial thistle]

I know, I'm the owner of the modding server

[lofty grotto]

Soooo close… yet sooo far… my dear R6

[flat perch]

this time around, don't shove your spear at the air above the crouching scout's head on r6dx please.. 🙂

[lofty grotto]

Hey! It Neo-dodged my spear.

draggy rages

[flat perch]

cant' blame her, who actually wants to get speared..

[lofty grotto]

But I still finished that level despite surviving a supposedly a wipe event

And screwed resources

[lofty grotto]

Spears Hirnu instead

[sharp owl]

do scouts respond to light

[coarse grail]

If you shine them for a while they will do their feelers

[sharp owl]

will they shout if you flashlight them while they're feeling

[coarse grail]

Nope

But they will feel again right after they stopped if you were shining them the whole time

Running and walking can't make them shout either

But will make them send out feelers

[sharp owl]

so i can just run around

and it will never shout

[coarse grail]

Yep

[sharp owl]

as long as i touch nothing

[finite saffron]

yep

[sharp owl]

ok neat

what will wake them up

[rough robin]

if another enemy sets off real close to it, it will wake up

[sharp owl]

gunfire, meleeing the floor

anything else

[finite saffron]

shooting or toucing them

[rough robin]

or if they scream

[coarse grail]

Gunshots, hammering an enemy or the floor, another enemy waking up nearby, contact

[finite saffron]

the hammering the floor and killing an enemy nearby doesn't usually happen

do we have any new content since last i was here?

i take that as a no ):

[vestal crystal]

failing a hack lock

[coarse grail]

idk when you were last here but R5 is out, R6 soon

[finite saffron]

ahhh i see thanks

[sharp owl]

can i DMR a scout to the back of the head

[visual jungle]

Don't think any primary can ohk scout

[sharp owl]

melee really do be better than literal rifles

[junior latch]

sawed off ?

[earnest forge]

From close enough

[visual jungle]

O k

[junior latch]

and a lot of guns can do it with occi hits for mains

tho a lot need multiple hits

but hel shotty kills 1 in for example

[visual jungle]

I mean with one shot

And for sawed off you're close enough to just melee the scout, no?

[junior latch]

DTR also can

sawed off heavily overkills so it has some leeway range

[finite saffron]

its about the style not efficiency

[earnest forge]

If you trust your knife skills you can melee its occiput

But I would assume the question was for a knife or bat user

Other melee weapon users should not have to rely on firing weapons

[visual jungle]

the nearby sleepers applauding me for killing a scout with a gun

[finite saffron]

his scared his gonna be next

[sharp owl]

bruh you're joking

[finite saffron]

intimidation tactics, works 100%

[sharp owl]

who programmed this

[visual jungle]

no they're applauding me

See the tank next zone over gave me a medal

[sharp owl]

the glow sticks can fall through the gaps in metal bridges

are you serious rn

i cant tell if i should be impressed or pissed off

[finite saffron]

oh yeah...

i forgot that can happen

[finite saffron]

oh neat what kind?

[visual jungle]

bronze

Need to kill 999 more scouts for the gold

[finite saffron]

better get on that grind

you got few more years until the end of the game

so you should be able to get it

[coarse grail]

can't wait to get the achievement for 1000 scout point blank sawn off kills

[knotty bobcat]

Scout's ociput is a 6x. so as long as your gun does 7 dmg in 1 shot, it'll 1 shot the scout

[finite saffron]

the only thing you have to worry about is the janky ass hitbox of the neck

[knotty bobcat]

Correction: 7.000000000001 dmg because rounding errors exist on this engine

[merry crypt]

also be carful of damage fall off

[knotty bobcat]

you have to hit them in the back of the head, not neck, but yeah they bow their head forward when walking. Best to get the occiput hit while they're extending the tentacles. So they straighten their back and put their head high

[vestal crystal]

You're forgetting about precision multiplier

[knotty bobcat]

Oh yeah

well

if your precision dmg is 7.0000001 dmg in 1 shot

[junior latch]

which is pretty much none :>

[knotty bobcat]

All the shotguns should be able to, no?

Not even the DMR hits that breakpoint, and doesnt have enough fire rate sadly enough

[junior latch]

dmr does have enough firerate lol

[knotty bobcat]

Does it?
Guess I must've just flunked it when i tried

[finite saffron]

don't you need like only a 20% damage increase for DMR to one shot scouts in the back of the head?

[knotty bobcat]

Just 15

Maybe actually

wait

Yeah 15% should be enough

[finite saffron]

ok so just a muted booster

intersting

[knotty bobcat]

It can be as low as 8% if my math isnt wrong

[finite saffron]

noice

[knotty bobcat]

hey i can actually use that muted booster for a reason now.. albeit extemely niche

[junior latch]

muted main dmg boosters is already giga broken on dmr lol

[knotty bobcat]

Yeah, even with the lowest muted dmg (5%) you can 1 shot strikers to the head

[merry crypt]

:O

[earnest forge]

I can't wait for the "true sniper" : 200 headshots with the Sniper Rifle without missing once (or something)

Or the "survivalist" : complete every single expedition in a row (whatever the order) without being downed once

[knotty bobcat]

Achievement: Down 3 teammates in quick succession

[merry crypt]

make it 4 with a trip mine

[elfin osprey]

achievement: wipe team with a mine

[merry crypt]

i think one of them should be called

"Dude...GTFO"

fail the training level

[elfin osprey]

me having to fail at training

yea i should get the fuck out of the training

[balmy moat]

Or achievements DNE 😩

[merry crypt]

i just hope the achievements arent something like beat (level)

[normal lake]

"Huh i wonder" followed by a gunshot and a explosion with 3 teammates or the entire squad down is a certified hood classic

[lone wraith]

Down 3 teammates so your pay doesn't get split by the warden

👌

[wispy bluff]

inb4 they force us to replay EVERYTHING

"Oh, those 50 hours of suffering? DO IT ALL AGAIN"

[lone wraith]

50 hours...? Lol

💀

[merry crypt]

only 50?

[lone wraith]

Maybe it'll just be like beat a tank or beat a mother

Or get all PE

Because PE is pretty much an achievement thing already

[balmy moat]

This used to be the cosmetic system until they destroyed it

[lone wraith]

Dang

[merry crypt]

I think what might be a good idea is that each rundown has 1 "main" achivement

(i.e. beat the last level in the rundown)

and if its fun, have an achievement for each level or 2

[junior latch]

Feel like thats very unlikely considering that theres a cosmetic system for that in place already

1. wouldnt make sense
2. they wouldnt need to test things

[junior latch]

Eh, PE was never rewarded

[merry crypt]

oh yea

well besides level completion what achievements do you think will be in there?

[junior latch]

ya know
The real thing for people with thousand of hours is that most achievements wouldve alreaey been done

[coarse grail]

But are they going to have been tracking some of the lifetime achievement stats?

If they have some of those brand of achievements

[junior latch]

Stuff id find cool

• Speedrun achievements (with the times obviously not being actual topspeed times)
• unique level clears (r6d1 reactor skip, r5e1 cell skip, r7c1 fog skip)

[mint light]

what's the point of having achievements as majority of the community seems to be cheating their way through the game anyways

[junior latch]

• clear a level without using ressources (aka ressource packs)

[merry crypt]

ah that would be awesome

[junior latch]

Clear a level (not training) without harming a sleeper

[coarse grail]

Its not like they mean anything in particular. Its a fun challenge for people who want to go for them legit

[junior latch]

could obviozsly do smth like „no tools allowed to be used“

[merry crypt]

"Did we bring the bio?"

beat any c tier level with 4 bio trackers

[mint light]

"challenge"

[junior latch]

i recently added THE most tedious idea

Get all optional objective pick ups

which was like 10 levels or so

[coarse grail]

why are you so against them? I don't see how they really harm the game

[junior latch]

They dont at all

its litteraly just a neutral or positive thing

[mint light]

I am not against achievements

Like wtf

I would 100% that shit immediatly

[sharp owl]

is it a good idea to toss a cfoam nade on the ground where the enemies will come from

i dont have a door

[mint light]

depends

[sharp owl]

to reinforce

[coarse grail]

Yeah, thats fine in many situations

[mint light]

can you make better use of it later on? then no. if not then yes

[upbeat sail]

throw it when they start coming so it lasts longer

[mint light]

Makes no difference at all

sleeper will absorb same amount

[upbeat sail]

isnt it also on a timer

[merry crypt]

5 mins

[upbeat sail]

nevermind then I thought it was like 2

[mint light]

Yeah so you would need to be doing rando stuff for 5 mins

before launching

[junior latch]

more like 4

not that it matters much

[sharp owl]

so im fine if i just toss it right before a class 4 alarm

with my sentry looking at the foam

[upbeat sail]

yeah

[mint light]

potatoh potahto

[gray pilot]

Wow, I can’t believe you said that! Just let the people play how they want! It’s not a big deal if you play with a couple of quality of life improvements like: perfect boosters, heroic heart, no teamdamage, infinite ammo, infinite health, double jump and a couple other minor QoL improvements. At the end of the day we are all playing the same game and that’s what matters! 😘

[mint light]

I cried 😭 you are right. I see the errors of my ways now 😭😭😭

thanks for enlightening me

[merry crypt]

No

I had a dream about gtfo double jump

[true pilot]

i love the sarcasm

[true pilot]

im sure there is a mod for it

[merry crypt]

it was the most cursed thing, you jump on tanks and they just stand still as you burst cannon them

[gray pilot]

So entitled wow. Let the people play… it’s their choice! And then let them also play in pubs with other people!

[mint light]

Inclusivity for all 👏

[rigid coyote]

Fireblade is clearly a very nice person.

[gray pilot]

Thanks ghallegyer gigan

[merry crypt]

wait

[gray pilot]

You sound like a nice person too!

[mint light]

Way nicer than firespoon. that dude is a douche

[merry crypt]

i just realised that fireblades pfp is a fire blade

i thought it was pizza

[coarse grail]

Its nice to see QoL mods healing the wounds this community has wrought upon itself

[gray pilot]

Well done!

[true pilot]

how

[mint light]

Since I have the auto_complete_on_drop mod the game has been way less gatekeeping towards me 😊

[sharp owl]

HELL YEAH

the cfoam works perfectly

i survived the class 4

[gray pilot]

Cfoam the ladder

[mint light]

4 foam launchers les go

[merry crypt]

i saw a yellow triangle and didn't realise that it had a handle for the sword

[true pilot]

Huh

thats a funny pizza then

[gray pilot]

Plot twist

It’s a pizza on fire

[merry crypt]

insert crying cat

[rigid coyote]

I'd love to see a crying cat.

[upbeat sail]

I now want a mod that replaces the sleeper projectiles with flaming pizzas

[true pilot]

Why just projectiles?

make the sleepers pizzas too

[gray pilot]

Just fly to the gamescom! They have all kinds of new things!!!

[true pilot]

why is there a pizzablade with a fireblade pfp and one with a flaming pizza

[gray pilot]

Dw about it

It’s just a QoL mod

[merry crypt]

he burnt the pizza!

[coarse grail]

Pizzablade new weapon in R8. Slice up the stikers and eat the pizza they drop to heal

[upbeat sail]

does it also send out a tripmine blast every time you hit something with it

[true pilot]

that only damages other sleepers and players but not you!

[merry crypt]

i wouldn't be surpised if theres a mode that changes the memory stick into a mini pizza

[gray pilot]

Better bots but they keep you fed with burnt pizza so you can play all day

They’re just like the normal bots so dw about it

[upbeat sail]

so they will always stand directly in front of you while giving you pizza

[merry crypt]

wait

pineapple pizza is the IIX syringe and pepperoni pizza as the other one

[upbeat sail]

that would explain why it gives infection

[merry crypt]

man XD

[true pilot]

then WATER (disinfect packs) is margherita pizza

[gray pilot]

You should start modding guys!

[merry crypt]

i have tried but id rather make levels

even then id rather play gtfo

[true pilot]

imagine playing gtfo

[upbeat sail]

hopefully they dump the dev tools for that whenever they stop updating it

[merry crypt]

i mean theres already a lot of things that you can mess around with, check out Fatal Experiment

^gtfo mod

[upbeat sail]

oh im aware I just assumed they dont want us talking about those here yet

[merry crypt]

that makes a lot of sense 😅

[sharp owl]

alrighty

i've done the entire r1b2

[true pilot]

true solo?

[sharp owl]

yeah

[analog flicker]

[sharp owl]

but

end alarm

[true pilot]

extraction alarm?

[sharp owl]

yeah

[true pilot]

B2 was the hsu mission?

[sharp owl]

yes

and its very very long

[true pilot]

its pretty simple, just check your route

i never had problems in there other than in the second from the hsu

where my team got gangbanged once

[sharp owl]

the second from hsu?

what do you mean

[analog flicker]

You only grab 1 HSU in R1B2

[sharp owl]

yeah

do you mean the second room

or something

[upbeat sail]

I think you have to loop around them and delay them with doors for solo?

[true pilot]

i mean the second room

other than that i remember it being east as long as you dont get lost

[sharp owl]

gonna go set my sentry up at spawn

i hope 62% on it is enough because i'm not gonna risk more alarms to loot

oh no spawn is ass for this

no sightlines 2 entrances

[upbeat sail]

wont you need it for the required alarms

[sharp owl]

thankfully jesus has provided me with a landmine

[sharp owl]

im done with them

[upbeat sail]

oh lol

[sharp owl]

i just need the hsu sample and to RUN

[upbeat sail]

then good luck

[sharp owl]

and then the stupid extraction scan

now

do i place this mine at the doorway before or after scanning the hsu

before things might spawn here and trigger it but after i may not have time

[upbeat sail]

wont killing them just spawn more in front of you

[sharp owl]

1 sec

this is the layout #gtfo-media message

do i place the mine there after the run or before i trigger the extraction alarm

[rose nova]

enemies might come from spawn and blow it up

[upbeat sail]

id assume after would be more reliable if you can do it quickly

[sharp owl]

alright

[junior latch]

Just dont place it like You did it in the drawing

[analog flicker]

Depends if they come from left or spawn in the right side room

[sharp owl]

the side room has 3 doors

i assume they're gonna choose the 1 door

well 2 doors actually

but still 2>1

[flat perch]

hope they do, takes double the time to break either

[sharp owl]

alright it is time

[flat perch]

they take turns in door banging which is considerate 🙂

good luck

[sharp owl]

im gonna do the sliding trick

seems helpful

[analog flicker]

That right turn into scan.

You go through a room divider

[sharp owl]

what does that mean

[analog flicker]

Not all rooms are divided by doors

That door to the left when you place a mine.

They would spawn just behind it or rather in that room

Also one of the doors on the right is connected to the big room

[sharp owl]

so you're saying that by the time i reach spawn there will be enemies there

and placing the mine would be useless

[analog flicker]

No

[sharp owl]

how does this affect the strategy

of running back and praying

[analog flicker]

Not really saying it's a bad strat

[sharp owl]

I FUYCKING DIED

NO

[flat perch]

😦

[true pilot]

F

[sharp owl]

what the fuck was this shit

[bleak pilot]

skill issue

[sharp owl]

they all spawned in spawn

[true pilot]

ouch

bad luck

[sharp owl]

they didn't even break the doors

idk how they all got in

[true pilot]

you might have gotten back spawns

[analog flicker]

More so just saying they spawn closer

[true pilot]

yeah

that also

[sharp owl]

i panicked

idk how they got in!

they didn't bang on anything

they just kept coming

they didn't use any door they kept coming from like the fog

[junior latch]

theres a door down there

Which was open in your screenshot?

[sharp owl]

i fucking forgot

WELP now i know which way they're gonna go

[flat perch]

next time u wont 🙂

[junior latch]

anyhow
Youd wanna place the mine while running through the door after closing it

Or simply do the big brain strat

leave the shooters in hsu zone alive

then wake them up once you run out

stops strikers from spawning

[sharp owl]

wait

aggro'd enemies count towards the alarm cap?

[junior latch]

dont kill them and just go into cover to bait them every few seconds on extract

[junior latch]

Yes

[sharp owl]

well that simplifies things a lot

[flat perch]

u gonna have a sprained wrist dodging all those projectiles in the end 🙂

[analog flicker]

[sharp owl]

doesn't matter they deal way less damage than strikers

[flat perch]

shake mouse, 95% miss

[analog flicker]

Can't be as bad as dodging the R6 Kraken

[sharp owl]

im pretty sure the survivors can just bring a riot shield a

[junior latch]

Nah, the pillar is perfect cover

[dusky hedge]

where r6

[sharp owl]

and just block them

[flat perch]

tru

[true pilot]

i mean, shooter projectiles are most likely some sort of acid

so they could just melt the riot shield

[upbeat sail]

repair it with tool refill

[true pilot]

hm yeah that could be a cool tool

[upbeat sail]

probably borderline useless compared to the others but at the very least it would be funny

[true pilot]

yeah

its a stricte defense option

while everything else is versatile

although if it also blocked melee, it would be interesting

and certainly exploitable

[sharp owl]

you could maybe just roleplay as montange from r6s

other teamates could take cover behind you

[true pilot]

for solo it could be good

just spin your camera around and the riot shield blocks all atacks

[sharp owl]

would be difficult

[upbeat sail]

Ive tried using other people as meat shields before and the projectiles would phase through them to hit me lol

note that was during the binary extraction scan where every single big shooter decided to target me

[ruby temple]

@latent palm is it smart to do 2 data cubes, then do the checkpoint scan before doing the third data cube in r7b3 PE?

[latent palm]

nope

[ruby temple]

If you arent confident in doing 3rd data cube

[latent palm]

go all in

[ruby temple]

And dont want to restart from beningging

[latent palm]

oh if that then sure

[ruby temple]

Beniging

[latent palm]

just pick the fog turbine and move lol

[ruby temple]

From beninging

[latent palm]

opening the checkpoint cause fog to rise

[ruby temple]

*beniniging

[ruby temple]

Oh wait

True

But its not like you dont have the fog turbine

[latent palm]

nope

only in will you have fog turbine

ill carry u again but dinner calls

[ruby temple]

As in

Not like you cant just take the fog turbine to clear the zone for 3rd data cube

[latent palm]

nope

[ruby temple]

Kinda troublesome

[latent palm]

checkpoint=fog

[ruby temple]

Yea yea

[junior latch]

Its stepping in that does it

[ruby temple]

Just do checkpoint scan, take fog turbine, double back and then do third data cibe

[junior latch]

after a certain point

[latent palm]

OH YEAH

i forgot

yea then if no one step their foot in

youre good

[junior latch]

Id still not recommend doing checkpoints before 3rd datacube

[latent palm]

thats why my 3rd run was a lil weird on it

yeah

cause

[junior latch]

the ending is way tougher and youd have to backtrack everytime (which legit takes nearly as long as doing the level again)

[latent palm]

GID GUD on data cube

btw when play Eva

[junior latch]

@ruby temple so avoid doing that :>

once im not fucked in the head by uni stuff

[latent palm]

me 3 months after

im literally you

[ruby temple]

Just a suggestion

If ur willing to take the time to double back i think its fine

[latent palm]

i mean

call me every time ur in trouble

[ruby temple]

Noh

[latent palm]

fair enough