gtfo-chat

[lone wraith]

What in gods name

[merry sluice]

Hes trying to Pure Solo.

[sharp owl]

i didnt take the tracker so i could have firepower

in the form of sentry

[lone wraith]

Then thermal or glowsticks

[swift wyvern]

That's even worse then 'cuz pure solo you don't need to shoot at anything you're usually kiting so flashlight performance is irrelevant

And if you're kiting you take biotracker usually

[lone wraith]

💀

[sharp owl]

idk how kiting works

[junior latch]

the only enemy where flashlights would be nice are shooters

[burnt flume]

Sigh, stop baiting

[junior latch]

cuz fucks shooters hiding in the dark

[lone wraith]

Just run in circles??

[merry sluice]

If you dont know any of the mechanics I dont know why you're trying to Pure Solo R1A1 again. You're just gonna be there for ages

[burnt flume]

It may be possible that the lighting is bugged and darker than it should be

[swift wyvern]

You go to the dollar store, buy some spool, then on a windy day, attach the spool to something light that can catch the wind- it's quite fun

[lone wraith]

I tried to make my own kite and it never worked :(

[swift wyvern]

:(

[sharp owl]

its not that hard

the tail needs to be really big

so it doesn't enter a death spin

make it like 3x the length of the kite

[sharp owl]

im not saying its bugged

it's just in a dark area and eeeh

cant really see

[burnt flume]

Ye, although sometimes you do get the game bugging out and everything's is darker than it should be, so you need to restart

[sharp owl]

imagine if we could just like, turn on the LRFs and then...

place them on the ground

like smart prisoners

[burnt flume]

Seen it happen to a sponsored streamer I think it was, couldn't tell them though because their chat was followers only

[sharp owl]

that's sucky

[burnt flume]

If you don't know what the bugged lighting looks like then it can make things a lot harder for you without you noticing

[knotty bobcat]

I fucking hate how the flashlight on the hel revolver isn't centered

why is it off to the left

whyyyy

[burnt flume]

:)

[junior latch]

:>

[knotty bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-tired-gif-22639183

[analog flicker]

That happens when you reload cancel

[knotty bobcat]

Ughh

[analog flicker]

You have to reload normally to fix it

[untold meteor]

Hey guys! I just bought GTFO and I am brand new and confused; how do I join a match? Would love to play

[sharp owl]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[sharp owl]

you can host or join someone else
to join you will need a code that the host can give to others to join, copy the code and go in game, a red button will appear says join userX

[craggy sentinel]

hello guys

i am new

i will buy GTFO tomorrow or day after tomorrow

i hope it will be easy for me to find servers 😄

i hope people will be nice and will not kick me for low level

[flat perch]

#lfg-beginners should welcome u np

[craggy sentinel]

i watch the gameplay but i am confused because of that command

like log in and more things

[flat perch]

basic game main menu stuff, dont worry

[wispy bluff]

Game mechanic spoiler: don't use in-game matchmaking. Its basically dead (no one uses it).
You must match through local LFG channels like #lfg-beginners or #lfg-western-europe as according to #how-to-matchmake

[craggy sentinel]

oh thanks for telling me

[errant marlin]

will R6 coming this month ?

[pine root]

No

[shadow dome]

just bought GTFO

[sharp owl]

what do tiny red dots mean for the biotracker

[rough robin]

a visual bug

[pine root]

You can’t ping them until the state change

Not intended

[sharp owl]

okae

[robust gull]

whenever i use biotracker i love telling my mates "gl hf i can't fucking read this thing rn"

[analog flicker]

the one time I'm playing Muted and they wanted me to be bio

[tidal forge]

What are the beginner levels for a group of three to get started on?

[sharp owl]

ALT r1 is a good place to start

[wispy bluff]

Technically speaking any of the As, but R1A1 is the best start since you wont get overwhelmed with mechanics

...or lore

[tidal forge]

Thx guys. Much appreciated

[wispy bluff]

Going from R7 to alt R1 is a whiplash because R1 is so much simpler and lamer than R7 is

So better to experience content in chronological order

[tidal forge]

Yeah. We completed one rundown, can't remember which and then tried to do an "easier" one and just get over run

[sharp owl]

i want rundown 8 to have an ultimate last level

like F

just think it would be cool

i like that in r5d2 there's laughing in the intercepted comms

they're having a lil bit of fun

[nocturne summit]

15 hours of GTFO but I'm still pretty ass at the loop - at what point am I not allowed to call myself a beginner?

Most certainly won't quit, but idk what point would be considered a skill issue insert into the team and not the learning curve

[sharp owl]

finishing the first rundown is a good benchmark

[vestal crystal]

different people will give you different answers, theres no time requirement to not be a beginner. but skill in the game revolves around shooting ability, knowledge of game mechanics, and decision making

[junior latch]

eh

the answer i like to generally give is 100 hours

but as ryk says, it rly depends on your development

people can be good at 20 hours and have learned a lot (usually with help)

or they stay newbs even at 400 hours

[nocturne summit]

All R1 stages are done, I don't have an issue in combat encounters, but my game sense and teamplay is ass

[sharp owl]

what do you mean by game sense and teamplay

like, you miss out on sleepers, you don't know what you should be doing

[vestal crystal]

clearing the r1 maps are not indicative of whether you have issues in combat encounters or not

[junior latch]

planning ahead, stealthing, actual stealth knowledge, alarm prep, ressource management, movement, stagger/support etc etc

[junior latch]

also this. R1 is barely a skill check. Its a fine intro but thats it

R1D1 is as hard as some of the B tiers later on

[nocturne summit]

my issues are poor stealth and enemy awareness in the dark which I try to fix by equipping the scanner but teams are different so I'll swap gear as requested. I'm bad at timing coordinated attacks. When working with teams, I'm bad at tracking what my team is doing so if someone sets off a room, I'm usually caught in a bad position and forced to waste resources because I didn't track what the others were doing

I rarely ever friendly fire unless someone just sprints across my LOS

[junior latch]

1. learn stealth rules and/or experiment
2. scanner is a crutch but on the other hand also giga strong. Playing without it to gain better awareness is good (in say duos) but being good at it is also very good usually
3. just try to go for limb breaks (hammer pls) and walk to hit
4. always be rdy for stuff to wake up, be it by charging melee continously or having guns rdy or a path out in your head
5. know what ressources you can and cant expend

is what i could answer of your message

[sharp owl]

some stuff with stealth that isn't immediately apparent:
Glowing sleepy boys can hear you smack their friends from a decent distance, so wait for them to stop glowing before you smack
Only one napper can wake up when you melee a guy at a time, so if you take that one out you'll be fine
you can "sync" sleepers so they glow at the same time by flashing them with your flashlight of choice for half a second

[flat perch]

find a solid team and deliberately go mega slow, room by room.. by the time u hit enough hours, youll be breezing thru, knowing what the others are doing or usually do

knowing the mine guy is ready to close the door, run to his door etc

[junior latch]

in the end theres multiple different ways to improve

Some improve at different speeds or in different areas

also depends on how you wanna play

playing slow and secure vs 4fun or full sprint speedruns

[nocturne summit]

1. WIP
2. I figured as much, I'll try to loop back to 1 on this.
3. I'll try this and see if I do better.
4. Fair, wake-ups usually catch me with my pants down due to aforementioned "Oh shit, there was another in that corner".
5. This is a game sense thing that I know I have been having a problem with. I'm trying to follow the principle of VT2 where "If you died and your resources were expended before you did, there's a chance that you did everything you could do correctly. If you died with resources on hand then you made a mistake."

and a thank you to the other pieces of advice, I wasn't aware that sleepers do their glowing bit on a rhythm

[sharp owl]

After 25 hours in game I am competent at stealth and I am god awful at aim and alarms

[nocturne summit]

inverse, I'm good when things go loud but I'm almost always the cause of alarms due to skill issue

[sharp owl]

we should team up lol

[nocturne summit]

if you'd like, then by all means

[junior latch]

fuuuuuuuusion

[nocturne summit]

"hey guys I think the room's clear"

https://tenor.com/view/haine-shadow-str-summertimerendering-summer-time-render-gif-26458032

[sharp owl]

this is me when using the biotracker

it's annoying not seeing if things are behind walls

"Oh shit there's 7 in this room!"
opens door
2 sleepers
the rest were on another floor

also happens with oddly shaped rooms

"oh shit, i see 7 20 meters out"
none are in this room, the wall is curved and they're all next door

[nocturne summit]

does make me sad that I can't convince other friends to play this game. They'll happily play Tarkov and Ready or Not, but GTFO is a bigger sleeper than the actual sleepers

[rotund notch]

Imagine looking at the biotracker screen.
This post was made by non-human players gang.

[nocturne summit]

I do consider the value of having a bio-tracker on a bot for the free tagging when things go loud

[sharp owl]

but there's no tension that way

[nocturne summit]

they're really good for that at least

[sharp owl]

something a lil sad is that this game isn't actually scary

because of the voice chat

[nocturne summit]

Dev update 6969 - all creatures react to VOIP

[rotund notch]

The only advantage to having it on a human player is the stealth advantage of seeing sleeping enemies (i think?) Which is something my group doesn't need, and would rather have the loud benefit

[vestal crystal]

game is not really horror, way more of a horde shooter

[sharp owl]

when im alone i do get tense but when there's 3 more peeps to talk with it loses some of its spook

scout is still incredibly fucking disgusting though

[rotund notch]

Its a co-op horde shooter with horror themeing

[sharp owl]

impressively gross

remarkably horrid

[nocturne summit]

mmmm... slurping up the spaghetti

[sharp owl]

i think it would be much scarier if the spaghetti made noises when you touched it

like wet sloppy scurrying sounds

[nocturne summit]

it already has that slithering sound when extending

[junior latch]

??? Why

[sharp owl]

people don't like trying new things

[nocturne summit]

They like what they like and don't like what they themselves havent reached out for

[junior latch]

:|

[nocturne summit]

they'll never take a game recommendation, nor will they acknowledge a game recommendation prior to playing

Friend ignored me when I told him he'd like Risk of Rain, eventually plays it then doubles my hour count

[robust gull]

eva, the game as much as i love it simply isn't a 45$ game

[nocturne summit]

fair, I grabbed the game solely since it was on sale a while ago

[robust gull]

even the sales are stingy as fuck

[junior latch]

eh it definetly is

the issue is getting 4 people for the 100% experience

together

[nocturne summit]

I knew the matchmaking caveats and the difficulty curve when going in

[junior latch]

a minimum 100 hours of content (fun one at that) which can easily go to 200+ hours at least is easily worth 40

[sharp owl]

i never expected the matchmaking to be this obnoxious at times

[nocturne summit]

still didn't obliterate me like Tarkov did so I'm happy

[junior latch]

it doesnt have to be a 15€ banger like hollow knight

[robust gull]

the game was in early release 2019, full release 2021, and they still just refuse to put it on a decent sale

it BETTER be a fucking 15$ game given its age

you know how many other games share a price tag with gtfo and are better experiences?

[sharp owl]

they're still adding things

once its finished and stuff sure

[robust gull]

i told you this game is a pyramid scheme, it's fun enough for one weird friend to like then it is up to them to trick 3 other friends to try it

[junior latch]

No

15€ is a insane steal for gtfo

[robust gull]

i am that weird friend

naw dawg

well, yes, but

[junior latch]

Aha?

[robust gull]

never heard of a game named aha

🤓

[junior latch]

call out some coop games in that price range far better

obviously no giants like l4d or kf2

[sharp owl]

deep rock galactic

[junior latch]

deep rock imo is a good example possibly yea

BUT it imo suffers hard from its randomized aspect

its also helpful

but it hurts it aswell

[sharp owl]

hard disagree

[robust gull]

well that's a different stipulation that requires discussion, what are we considering gtfo?

[junior latch]

level clears dont feel as good as gtfo clears at all

[sharp owl]

what i hate most about drg is netcode

if you're not host stuff is delayed

[robust gull]

a medium game? small?

[sharp owl]

noticably

[junior latch]

imo deep rocks biggest advantage is more love and time seemingly put into it

[nocturne summit]

it gives it both replayability as well as absurd challenge depending on each case

I have been killed far more by ridiculous terrain and spawns than I have by hordes or bosses

[junior latch]

replayability kinda
Challenge eh

Hand crafted design > rng design

see souls likes

[nocturne summit]

hand crafted will eventually become familiar

[junior latch]

deep rock is a game i agree with as a good comparision for gtfos flaws tho

tho its not like gtfo doesnt have upsides

[robust gull]

just so we're clear and it feels a little odd to say out loud i ain't tryna flame you and obviously i will have disagreement, by you and others, but i mean no personal insult and will not think less of you for sharing your thoughts

[junior latch]

this is then a discussion about what time of content is needed for this to be irrelevant

[nocturne summit]

I cna't think of any games that offer the same experience this game offers

[junior latch]

gtfo easily sitting in the 100-200 hour range is INSANE

[robust gull]

that's for a dedicated player though

[junior latch]

huh, replayability is even moreso for deep rock

what do i care about rng levels if i barely play once a month

vs hand crafted levels in that situation

[robust gull]

i'm thinking from the point of view of a consumer with casual experience in mind

[junior latch]

Deep rock thrives off the cave asthetic

[robust gull]

sure gtfo isn't casual, but it needs to meet us in the middle here and offer a more welcoming price so we can sort through the casual folk

[junior latch]

casual experience is broad

[robust gull]

45$ is quite a gamble

[junior latch]

the general thing should be

do you get your worth out of 40€

and then, yes easily so

[nocturne summit]

at least it's on sale for like $28 right now

[junior latch]

if you dont quit

its obviously a gamble tho

gtfo is niche and challenging/hard

[nocturne summit]

I'd probably twist a friend's arm by gifting it if I wasn't shafted by an emergency purchase recently

[junior latch]

huh? Casual people buying it will drop it mostly soon

[wispy bluff]

If coop aspect doesn't work out - you could always oil up some hinges with that mod-oil

[junior latch]

I honestly think 30-40 is completely fair

for what gtfo gives

[wispy bluff]

Better bots + rescale the game for less players. Bam, easy mode to be beaten by most people and get their money's worth.

[junior latch]

gtfo obviously has issues

[nocturne summit]

GTFO isn't mod compatible unless I've missed something

[lone wraith]

?

You can mod gtfo

[junior latch]

cough communication cough
Cough mod community interaction cough

[lone wraith]

Cough

[wispy bluff]

It is, its just generally not accepted on this official server.

.t modding

[foggy plank]

GTFO doesn't officially support mods and we don't allow them to be played in public lobbies or voice channels on this server, and lengthy discussions should also be avoided (mentioning them is perfectly fine). However, we do recognize that a GTFO modding community exist and if you are interested in them, you are welcome to join the independent modding community Discord server. https://discord.gg/rRMPtv4FAh (If you have any more questions, please read rule #12 in the rules channel for more information.)

[nocturne summit]

oh hell, I've been under a rock

[junior latch]

That community btw expands the content by a few extra hundred hours btw

theres even randomizer mods (cough deep rock cough)

[lone wraith]

Cough

[robust gull]

i guess what i'm really trying to say is, genuinely, what does this game offer on a single player's budget that is genuinely worth more than say me buying myself and three other lads drg on sale and still having money to get myself a pizza

or l4d2, or kf2, or any other co-op shooter at this point, really

[junior latch]

challenge

adversity

[robust gull]

a competitive selling point of co-op shooters is the very low bar for entry, price included

ah but these games also have that when you scale it up enough, hell on earth, one down, expert mode, hazard 5 (6 and 7 through modding)

they do have challenge, but they need more

is what i'm trying to say

[junior latch]

id exclude modding as an interest, but id give it a point for availability

the thing with stuff like hell on earth and haz 5 is that it often doesnt feel as natural

Hell on earth specifically

kf2 is quite often just a kite fest

[robust gull]

no fun movement mechanics, very steamlined gunplay, red light green light

[robust gull]

this i grant you, and i will also throw in adding bots killed the mood of the game for me. sucks to shoot them, they don't feel good

[junior latch]

is there any fun movement in kf2?

[wispy bluff]

Specify?

[junior latch]

deep rock kinda needs it due to the rng factor making stuff way rougher to balance otherwise

[wispy bluff]

You blow up monsters to bits and cut off their heads, that's all you need

[junior latch]

i said is there fun MOVEMENT

[robust gull]

naw, hes right, kf2 has no fun movement.

[junior latch]

not MOMENT

[wispy bluff]

Like movement mechanics?

[junior latch]

gtfo gunplay imo is also good

[robust gull]

but kf2's guns are fucking F I R E

the reload animations, the shooting, all slick

[wispy bluff]

None i can think of

You are glued to the ground something fierce

You can play maxed out medic or berzerk to kite enemies forever

But that's about it

No cancels or anything

[junior latch]

imo if we rank the 3 games (broadly)

Gun play: kf2, deep rock, gtfo
Movement: deep rock, gtfo, kf2
Challenge: gtfo, deep rock, kf2
Team play: gtfo, deep rock, kf2
Replayability: deep rock, (kf2/gtfo?)
Enemies: deep rock, gtfo, kf2

my opinions

obviously

[nocturne summit]

ngl, KF2 gunplay smokes GTFO, it is a key feature of that game

[junior latch]

yep

[robust gull]

i feel like the strength gtfo had, and should've specced into more is the enemies. the strikers are so satisying to shoot, and genuinely a little spooky when i first played, but they did nothing with it. they reused models, shooting body bits don't do nothing, and some of the newer things suck to shoot at. (dog, flyers, anyone?)

[junior latch]

Without the gunplay the game is quite bad

which is fine since its a horde shooter

[analog flicker]

Kf2 Melee vs GTFO Melee

:v

[junior latch]

This. Gtfo needed and needs more cool enemies

Snatcher is one of the better introductions for this

more cool boss ideas

more medium sized challenging guys

[vestal crystal]

IMMORTAL = FUN

[robust gull]

YOU WILL BABYSIT THE GREY TANK.

1984

[junior latch]

honestly i think gtfo has the most satisfying melee combat (i find kf2 unbeliably boring personally and deep rock is snooze, mining is fun for me tho LOL )

[burnt flume]

tank_boss

[junior latch]

this, ok idea at best, awful implementation

[robust gull]

tank_bossbaby 😲

[burnt flume]

I'd raise that the melee was more satisfying in early access through a combination of occi kills and better movement likely having a higher ceiling

[junior latch]

Gtfo shouldve put out more work like scouts, shadows, tanks, mom, snatchers, giant flyer

[burnt flume]

And no bullshit stagger I guess

[junior latch]

more melee weapons (albeit mostly knife/bat) vs no stamina basically

[vestal crystal]

you only think that way because of skill issue cant handle stamina 🤓

[junior latch]

i dont think occi min charge matters much

but stam hurt melee combat obviously

in enjoyment

[robust gull]

but anyways tl;dr is they fucked up their hype and i can't in good faith suggest the 45$ pill because they didn't play to their strengths

sadge

[rose nova]

melee is cool cause of the shake screen the blood on the screen the sound the gore the fast u crabe hole in enemies and the squeeeeelch

[nocturne summit]

depending on difficulty and playstyle. I know that my hour counts are extremely skewed between KF2 and GTFO, but I know that skirmisher berserker on HOE is a hell of a lot more fun when played correctly than getting into a knife fight with sleepers. Conversely, it's very satisfying to take out 3-4 sleepers with facestabs and not wake up the room versus a slugging match with a fleshpound

[junior latch]

This is purely a context thing

and what you compare it to

in the general market of games gtfo is easily worth its money to enjoyment and time investment

[nocturne summit]

it's a tough sell unless you already like games similar to it

[robust gull]

i disagree, but my enjoyment to time investment is different

[junior latch]

Which is fine

[robust gull]

so i think we will not see eye to eye on that

[junior latch]

making it dirt cheap wouldnt work out

and making it a more casual game removes what gtfo is

[nocturne summit]

this is definitely a game up the aforementioned RoN/Tarkov players alley but they're too deep in the sauce on those other games

[junior latch]

how many hours do you have

How many of those can you say you enjoyed for sure

put that into money conversion

[burnt flume]

You seem to be the kind of person who would tell me that the taxi driver going the speed limit is more fun than the taxi driver doing 70 through a school zone while belting out rock or metal songs from decades bygone about speed or cars

[junior latch]

look at other games on the market and compare

[analog flicker]

[robust gull]

problem, i barely passed math

(this is a joke to lighten mood, i love you)

[analog flicker]

1 + 1

[robust gull]

if there was an = it'd be window

but there isn't so i'm clueless

[nocturne summit]

ngl, I think the prisoners have better stamina than any of the clown in chat here that play this game 🗿 my fat ass included

[analog flicker]

you failed math yet want an exact formula

1 + 1 = ?

[robust gull]

window!!!!

if u take

the 1s

they do the side of the window

[junior latch]

unironically
People (generally) often struggle with understanding numbers and thus go by feeling moreso than logic

[robust gull]

and the + is the middle panel frame

and

[junior latch]

its not like i dont do that either

[robust gull]

the = is the top parts!

[junior latch]

[nocturne summit]

1 + 1 = 2i

Welcome to engineering/CSS

[junior latch]

its just stuff like

[analog flicker]

GTFO not showing numbers instead just says " High Damage "

[junior latch]

What do you guys rate yourself player skill and knowledge wise for gtfo (seperatly)

[analog flicker]

[junior latch]

Aaaaah

[robust gull]

boys, no matter how much we disagree, just know ONE thing, if the 400 or so of us who play this game a little too much get drafted int owar together, we WILL be running at them bad guys with hammers, we will die

[burnt flume]

probably like 8/10 skill, 7/10 knowledge

[nocturne summit]

i = i + 1 is my favorite just by how stupid it is to mathematicians versus CSS students

[robust gull]

you cannot silence the voices in the head

[burnt flume]

I know all the important stuff but little of the fine detail

[junior latch]

for context
Id give myself 7-8/10 in skill
9/10 in knowledge

[robust gull]

i have LOCKED IN ASSAULT in BATTLEBIT REMASTERED with a sledgehammer IRL

[rose nova]

i am like, 5/10 on skills, i am bad at this game for the most part, and tbh knowlegde is the exact same i am bad at knowin stuff too

:]

[analog flicker]

7/10 - 8.5/10

[robust gull]

my only valuable skill is reviving gtfo chat with shitposts and so stupid you can't tell if i'm serious or not brainteasers

[coarse grail]

These all feel like modest responses

[junior latch]

the funny thing with ranking like that is context

Ive seen what hani and others like that can do. So 10/10 is our of the question and so is 9/10
8/10 maybe

For knowledge i just know that i dont know everything

[analog flicker]

knowledge probably 8 ngl if it's just game mechanics

[nocturne summit]

spatial awareness in combat is an easy 8-9/10, combat performance is 7-8/10, game knowledge is easily 3 or less.

[junior latch]

meanwhile ive seen more lowish guys rank themselves 7/10

[rose nova]

if u know that u dont know everythin how do u not know u dont know everything?

[nocturne summit]

I struggle to sneak up on shit, but nothing sneaks up on me

[coarse grail]

Maybe I'd be like 6/10 skill and 8/10 knowledge?

[rose nova]

turns around and kills 7 sleepers with the sawed off

[burnt flume]

without seeing the pinnacle you've no idea how far you must climb

to make it sound pretentious, anyway

[junior latch]

its true

[burnt flume]

ye

[robust gull]

hear me out

[rose nova]

yeh

[junior latch]

@nocturne summit how many hours you on again?

[nocturne summit]

I FUCKING LOVE LISTENING TO FOOTSTEPS! I LOVE BEING GIVEN THE EXACT LOCATION OF ENEMIES BY AUDIO ALONE!

[rose nova]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[nocturne summit]

https://tenor.com/view/tired-spongebob-day-15-gif-12897114

[analog flicker]

[nocturne summit]

right, no gifs

15

[coarse grail]

This is why I'd actually like a better player to watch me play and tell me what I'm doing wrong

[nocturne summit]

all the combat skill is from playing other games

[coarse grail]

Cos I feel like I'm pretty good but then there are others that are crazy

[burnt flume]

like I've put myself through the wringer with trying to do some funny stuff solo but there's still room to be better still

[junior latch]

just to give context, pachi and me are both easily over the 1k hour mark and casually solo speedrun stuff

[nocturne summit]

play one shooter, translate to other shooter

[burnt flume]

I barely hit 1k hours

[rose nova]

is kinda funny u gave urself two numbers 8 in combat for combat when they were both combat

:3

[robust gull]

🦀 45$ red light green light don't matter the bads WILL co-ordinate 4 man takedowns on 2 sleepers 🦀
BORN TO SHIT FORCED TO WIPE 🍆 😩

[burnt flume]

probably like 1006 hours

1006.9, actually, just checked

[rose nova]

aa

[nocturne summit]

I don't need math, I've got my secret punch-them-in-the-face-until-they-die style

[rose nova]

u literally made my internet die with that revelation

:]

[junior latch]

pachis is less than 50% of me

[burnt flume]

maybe I should fix that and try go for a better time on r1a1 which I will not play at all as opposed to playing baldur's gate or something else

[rose nova]

pachinkos

[burnt flume]

and even funnier is my brother who I duo with has several hundred less hours than me

[coarse grail]

Eva, how much for GTFO vod reviews?

[analog flicker]

[nocturne summit]

all I've heard is nudity nudity nudity. Does the game have any game?

[junior latch]

1 new* training speedrun on speedrun.com

[coarse grail]

already done

[junior latch]

and i vod review that and another one

[analog flicker]

Me trying to play gears/fallout 4 but find myself launching gtfo

weird

[rose nova]

me when i see naked sleepers:

[analog flicker]

[burnt flume]

much game, very chill, good fun

[coarse grail]

bah you want me to beat 4:12? >.<

[junior latch]

possibly

Could also do death% speedruns ellda

[coarse grail]

Is this actually a category?

[burnt flume]

nudity is by far not the main part of BG3

[analog flicker]

[junior latch]

Category extensions ye

[coarse grail]

Is it explained fully somewhere?

I saw a bit of conversation on it earlier

[junior latch]

category extensions you can click on it on speedrun com

basically

last hit by death options of choice

[burnt flume]

I don't know when the speedrun.com site got its gui improved but it's a lot nicer now

[junior latch]

i dislike it pachi

:c

[burnt flume]

hm

[coarse grail]

Is it done solo?

[junior latch]

Yes

we actually time those by milliseconds

[burnt flume]

I can understand that, and things might change depending on your relationship with the site

[junior latch]

you are welcome to try and best my mine death% time

💀

[burnt flume]

it looks a lot cleaner but it also feels more jank to navigate

[junior latch]

^

[coarse grail]

Okay so I'll go blow myself up to a mine and you review my 2 and half hour R4E1 yea?

[junior latch]

i can agree with tha

[coarse grail]

😂

[junior latch]

i said ill review, not how detailed :p

2 1/2 hours is probably lots of afk

LOL

[burnt flume]

I mean, it depends on what you're doing in the r4e1 as well

[junior latch]

as in, secure planning afk

[burnt flume]

like, there's only limited stuff to say probably

[jade iron]

but aren't we better than 99% of players

[coarse grail]

idk I just want general player stuff, not R4E1 strats

Like where I'm making bad decisions and not taking advantage of whatevers

[jade iron]

seriously I'd reach for like a 7 in skill, but also feel like everyone when asked to rate themselves on anything gives themselves a 7

[junior latch]

i think for me this is knowledge tbf

@coarse grail obviously different things. But i do have coaching experience

[jade iron]

yeah absolutely for knowledge I want to cram people who have learnt the meta into the 9-10 range

[coarse grail]

I am unironically somewhat interested

[junior latch]

my ex league pro scence experience shining through

god, frick league tho

[coarse grail]

I must be almost 3 years clean now

GTFO saved me

[junior latch]

i did go back last season to play a bit casually

was fun to coach a bit and reach masters

it was hilarious when i got a coaching offer for a prime league diff 3 team 3 months after having stopped playing again in the middle of a labwork month

[neon fulcrum]

shout out to TOM and korean team, insane run, R5E1 cell skip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPmNuwO4dbs&t=11s&ab_channel=TOM 22min4sec

[junior latch]

Didnt they already get a sub 22min?

[wraith marsh]

yes

#gtfo-media message

[neon fulcrum]

Can't wait to see it on youtube 🙂

[burnt flume]

wow, me neither, I can't wait to see the video that's already been uploaded to youtube, on youtube

[pine root]

Can’t wait till they drop the sub 20 min run

[wraith marsh]

I miss mystery times

[neon fulcrum]

If it's not on TOM's channel, where is it?

[wraith marsh]

I hate actually knowing the record the instant its made

😔

[pine root]

It is on his channel I think!

Unless they think it can be massively improved

[burnt flume]

nevermind I have brainrot and just assume any completion screenshot is a video

or, well, a completion screenshot of worth, like speedruns or solos

[neon fulcrum]

It would be godlike if they did a flawless run without even a few mistakes

[junior latch]

i dont think a flawless run is ever gonna happen

even if we put it in context

[neon fulcrum]

Do you think another team could beat it?

[junior latch]

beatable, sure

[burnt flume]

yeah, would just need a good enough team and enough grinding

[junior latch]

the closest thing to unbeatable is training. And thats mostly due to us timing it in seconds (and even then, lawless 4:07 is theoretically possible)

[pine root]

At the current moment

No one is close

It can go to sub 20 but it would be ducking crazy

[stone marten]

Two biotrackers? Havnt got to R5 yet

[rose nova]

idk why would u have two bios

[wispy bluff]

It allows your team to split 2x2 with both sub-teams having access to enemy positioning and pinging.

Like if one team has to push it into some stealth room and REALLY needs to knows where everyone is, while the other team also needs to see more than they can otherwise, if you catch my drift.

[rough robin]

havent found a level yet that really needed two bios

[rose nova]

mh yeah but, well dependant on the lvl i guess

but idk if u would sacrifice one tool for that

[wispy bluff]

Its a very specific tactic usually utilized by vets for boring levels where neither subteams wants to be without info

[slate yew]

need help with r1a1

[latent palm]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[thick temple]

.t gtfo

[foggy plank]

The game is called GTFO and it doesn't stand for "Get The Fuck Out" but rather the feeling you have that you want to complete The Warden's objective and GTFO.

[outer bear]

does yellow syringe only work for 1 attack

[rose nova]

yeah

[outer bear]

fuck

[rose nova]

and u can use it only for 8 seconds after u inject it

[latent palm]

What if

The yellow syringe

Worked as a permanent boost of mutation (increased hp overall armor and hp regen cap and speed but longer reloads and accuracy decreases)

And has a limit of use before you become a monster

[rose nova]

i mean u can just do that with normal boosters tho

[latent palm]

No

[rose nova]

and if those werent here

[latent palm]

Dis is different

Let me cook

[rose nova]

tbh i dont see much benefit, since
i mean it depends by what u mean 'a monster'

[latent palm]

Become more rage filled

More chaotic approach to everything including teammates

Imagine shoving ur teammates off and they take dmg like a charger punch

And finally taking off the mask cause why not

[rose nova]

thats a lot of mechanics to introduce in a game that focused so hard on coop

and not mechanics

[latent palm]

Yea

Its a meth cook

So either keep scrolling or let me cook

Any idea put on the table now made official or not

Its gonna be low expectations already

[lone wraith]

Good morning Warp Gate

[latent palm]

[delicate frigate]

good evening warp gate

[hushed hound]

algum brasileiro?

[rose nova]

#hc-latin-america bro

hay un server ahi creo

[latent palm]

Ty

Wait do i know u?

[analog flicker]

[livid gulch]

on one hand, I'd take new content
on the other hand, thats a stupid idea

[analog flicker]

R8: Hel revo 8 > 6

[rough robin]

r8 patch notes: removed speedloader for hel revolver

[marble storm]

R2D2 LF2
109775243251656454

[lone wraith]

Wrong channel #lfg-north-america

[real reef]

as someone who has just bought the game and hasnt done anything yet... should i play solo first or grab a team and shit our pants together?

[livid gulch]

depends on what you want to do

[real reef]

id like to play with people but i also dont wanna hold people back by not knowing the game. does the community openly accept noobs or?

[livid gulch]

teams can be fun, but also annoying
solo you'd just bask in the pain partnering with the bots

[livid gulch]

yeah theres outright this channel #lfg-beginners

if anyone complains about noobs there, they trolling or extremely stupid

[real reef]

sweet, thank you

[sharp siren]

jump on lfg begginers, you will not be holding back nobody at the starting levels

and even if you do your learning

the other guy will have a skill issue

[elfin osprey]

just remember that every lfg channel with lower tier expect lfg beginner arent newbie friendly

[livid gulch]

yeah usually if someone is doing a C and below level, it's expected they might be new

[jade iron]

I'd accept this

better than patching the cancel and enduring a 2.8s natural reload

oh unless you meant damage, then gun ruined

[surreal plaza]

Have never completed r1c1 bc i usually solo until yesterday when I suggested to my buddy we do it
we got our best boosters on and we hopped in

Completed the 8th startup

Died at the escape sequence

[inland urchin]

I gifted my friend GTFO and he didn't like it 😭

ended up telling me to refund it

all because I couldn't find the hsu in r1a1

[bleak pilot]

F

[inland urchin]

I forgot about the terminal pinging thing

[fleet tinsel]

Any idea why R1D1 is so damn difficult?

We destroy the big boy and somehow a few of the smaller dudes 10m away detected us somehow. :/

it's so damn off putting

[bleak pilot]

when the sleepers are actively searching, their detection range for melee kills increases

[bleak pilot]

also R1 is quite easy compared what you will encounter in later rundown :D

[fleet tinsel]

oof

but thanks i guess that's the reason why

[elfin osprey]

gtfo typical montage

[lone wraith]

They were probably pulsing

Killing a sleeper 10m from someone pulsing will result in the sleeper 10m away to troll you

[livid gulch]

we do a little trolling

[visual jungle]

isn't it also when they have line of sight

[trim sail]

sometimes i wish i had the ability to do friendly fire using hammer on my teamamtes, especially when they are performing like shit

[sharp sable]

nestay just fucking shot me point blank with a chokemod

bro

all my fucking hp just disappeared 💀

[wide warren]

who wants to play R1B1?

[fleet tinsel]

Finally finished entire R1 with the boys 😭

Only took like an hour though, lol!

[trim sail]

1 hour to finish all missions in R1 ?

[dim gulch]

hello guys

im newb

any tips for beginner?

[surreal plaza]

Shoot the bad guys lol

One thing i picked up was that if i find myself in a room with more than one security doors, i look at their alarm class before deciding which to open first

So i'd do the one with the higher class alarm first in that way it's easier to setup

[dim gulch]

okay

[coarse lily]

dont use spears

[surreal plaza]

Oh and try the hel revolver too

It's nice

[coarse grail]

if you hear a sleeping enemy twitching stop moving
Learn how to use the terminals

[cyan drum]

hello y`all newbie here it does take some time to find other ppl for matchmaking is this normal?

[surreal plaza]

You're better off using lfg channels in this server

The matchmaking is known to be pretty unreliable atm

.lfg

Uhh what's the command thing again

.t lfg

[bleak pilot]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[cyan drum]

i see thank you

[surreal plaza]

@bleak pilot man these guys are deaf compared to normal sleepers lol

I walked around and hit all of them

None of them woke up

[bleak pilot]

i doubt they have a different detection radius

you just gotta make sure you dont bonk anything while others around a searching

[junior latch]

detection radius is the same yep

[ruby temple]

there is no way

[true pilot]

entire R1 in 1 hour?

that would be a wr

[ruby temple]

r1a1 to r1d1 in 1 hour?

[true pilot]

like

R1C2 would take you an hour

R1D1 would take an hour

R1C1 would take atleast 40 minutes

[ruby temple]

@junior latch u found ur match

bro did entire r1 in one hour

[junior latch]

i mean thats roughly WR or similar for a lot of levels

i think WR pace for it all is like 52 min

would still be extremely suprising

[ruby temple]

wr for rundown speedrun is 52 minutes??

holy sheit

[small crater]

Hello everybody. Would you like to play with me?

[ruby temple]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[junior latch]

well no
WR of all R1 levels added ontop of each other

we were aiming for sub 1 hour as a 1st estimate

[little ridge]

I assume that logs cant be used right?

Or you stop the clock

At the end of every level?

[junior latch]

2:28
3:41
6:58
20:36
10:21
7:49

are the times rn

with B2 and C2 both being improvable by at least 30 seconds

[junior latch]

can be
but you arent allowed to reset

you gotta take the run thats given

time is added time of all levels

[little ridge]

Which would make a 1h also kinda lucky-ish?

[junior latch]

works the same as story% where we got THE sickest run ever in r7

not lucky-ish

but certainly would need logs unless you get god luck and know it

iirc

[ruby temple]

i forgot to add a 1

but sheesh

r1 sub 1 hour

[junior latch]

R1B1 has the highest variance due to extra zones youd need to do so expected time is 4 min
R1D1 we get the ammo so expected is max 9
R1C2 safely is 11 at absolute worst
R1C1 is a safe 20:40 at worst
B2 can be done in 8 even with worst keys and then r1a1 4 min max

so 57 easily

[ruby temple]

do c foamed enemies count towards entity count

run the 4 foam in r1c1

[ancient dove]

idk, i’ve got 6 c foam grenades in a run

[junior latch]

why foam

we just run through

[ancient dove]

threw it all at a door

doesn’t seem to change anything

[ruby temple]

just keep foaming the enemies so you dont have to shoot them while doing the reactor

[little ridge]

Dont stack

[junior latch]

doesnt work
also we just shoot anyhow

[little ridge]

Use until you hear metal noise then wait

[burnt flume]

You'd run out of foam and it wouldn't save any time compared to shooting reactor waves

[ancient dove]

smh, i ordered my bot to throw one and it threw through the door to the other side

[little ridge]

Reactor waves just queue up

With the exception of R6D1 IIRC

[ruby temple]

damn

[ancient dove]

I’m very ashamed to say this but bots carried me in r2c1 because i goes theough the fog without fog repellent and stuck at 1-2 hp

the bots don’t care about infection

i used them all as meatshields

[ruby temple]

shouldnt it be 15 or something?

[little ridge]

15 when out of fog

inside fog cap is 99-98

[ancient dove]

i insta died by wall bugs

when i walk out

[little ridge]

spitters

[ancient dove]

smh spitters but all i see is wall bugs

[ruby temple]

me and the bois doing 3rd data cube r7b3 PE on 99% infection

[ancient dove]

no need for names

very annoying

[little ridge]

yes need for names

or I hear "Sleeping scout" instead of chickens or big shooters and wonder what the fuck they meant

[ruby temple]

who the hell calls a shooter titan "sleeping scout"

[junior latch]

the fog in r2c1 isnt infectous

its only the spitters

[ancient dove]

huh?

||there’s an entire section filled with fogs||

||and you need to carry a fog turbine.||

but i went in without it and stays at 1-3 health

also spoiler btw

[junior latch]

was it uplinks

or a permanent error alarm?

[ancient dove]

nah

[junior latch]

cuz uplinks i r2c1

error is r2c2

[ancient dove]

neither, just grab turbine and just go to the extract, that’s literally the entire mission 💀

[little ridge]

R2B4

[ancient dove]

r2b4 or r2c1

[junior latch]

also has a disinfect station same as r2c2

:I

its not r2c1

[ancient dove]

i did both at the same time smh

yeah i got the lvl wrong

[ruby temple]

disinfection station my beloved

[little ridge]

"PerliHeart"

Who's Perli? 🤔

[ruby temple]

perlica

[little ridge]

Dont tell me another vtuber I hate vtubers 😦

[ruby temple]

shes a character from arknights endfield

or should i say whenfield

[wet stump]

hello guys experiencing server issues

[ruby temple]

cause we still dont have any news on the game and its been over a year

[wet stump]

lag, other players not seeing other players etc

[sharp owl]

anime characters

[ruby temple]

are you playing with players overseas?

[wet stump]

nah same region all

[trail plover]

Anyone got beginner kinda tips

[ruby temple]

best tip is to just play with other beginners

[modern coral]

Avoid sawed-off, HEL shotgun, DTR, and autopistol in the Main slot while you're learning the game.

Heavy assault rifle and high-cal pistol are good specials to learn the ropes on, especially for the major roles that weapons tend to fulfill.

[sharp owl]

i wonder why blood doors exist

the sleepers have no reason to bang on that door

[elfin osprey]

to make you less sleath

[elfin osprey]

they do

[sharp owl]

what is the reason

[true pilot]

the meme

LET ME IN

one

they like it

like a lot

[elfin osprey]

this is 2

[sharp owl]

sleepers generally want to eliminate humans and sources of noise

but like

there's nothing necessarily behind the door

do the bang on it because they hear the sound of the other sleepers banging on it?

[elfin osprey]

3rd is there is a motion dectecion device that go beep bc u are near then it wake the sleeper up and they are mad bc u wake them up

[sharp owl]

and it's just a self repeating cycle

[elfin osprey]

thats why they bang the door

u woke them up

[sharp owl]

wait really

dont you need to like pull a handle for it

[elfin osprey]

sleepers are just mad that we woke them up

[sharp owl]

and yet they refuse to go back to bed

[junior latch]

they cant

they insomniac

[elfin osprey]

its bc we ruined their spa day

[sharp owl]

we were woken up

so we are going to create a massive amount of noise to ensure that we cannot sleep

:(

why isn't it working

also how come that ceiling lamps dont bother them but my shitty headlamp from the dollar store does

[true pilot]

they got used to it

[sharp owl]

and why doesn't the noise from each other's clicking or throbbing wake them up

[true pilot]

cause they know its each other

and not a new noise

[sharp owl]

okay

new strat

take concert speakers with you

blast clicker noises

the sound will mask any alarms or sounds you make

do the entire mission

profit

[true pilot]

what about alarms

and also i hate to tell you but... i doubt there are any working concert speakers left in the world of GTFO

[sharp owl]

im gonna call bs on that

what do you think the alarms use to produce sound

use those

[junior latch]

and i also doubt that increasing their sounds by that much wont wake them up

alarms work with basically no power

[little ridge]

heh

maybe they're just... having fun

with each other

and being loud

[true pilot]

wait

that one blood door with tons of baby strikers

NO

[sharp owl]

what

what's the big deal

the babies are hitting it

[true pilot]

well... if we consider what sleepo said

then its well...

well...

[sharp owl]

i don't get it

they're having fun with each other and being loud

baby strikers

is the joke that they're striking the babies

[sharp owl]

you sound frightened

[true pilot]

i mean they cant get any smaller

so i dont think we have to worry about... wait ||baby chargers?!||

[wet stump]

looking for a group

[true pilot]

.t lfg

[wet stump]

im from south east asia

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[gray pilot]

Can we get a new GTFO weekly discussion? I feel so empty without it 😞

[elfin osprey]

me too

[knotty bobcat]

Weekly discussion?

[wispy bluff]

Like this:
#1133327511569321984

[elfin osprey]

its something that we all love

but its more of a monthly disscussion that weekly

[knotty bobcat]

Oh.
Never see those chats

[elfin osprey]

@hollow quarry plz bring weekly disscussion back

i miss it alot

[junior latch]

Daily discussion
Which gun is this
Dmg: 4
Reload: 2
Stagger potential: 7

[analog flicker]

lol

Is it like a scale of 10

[clear mirage]

idk what went different(maybe double tap rif didnt realize how much ammo it could pack til halfway) but i finally beat it with bots

[junior latch]

Ye

[analog flicker]

Trying to recall

[bronze atlas]

hiyaa

[analog flicker]

Which guns I would rate it a reload of 2.

[bronze atlas]

god that was a bit feminine

[sharp owl]

sort it out then

[bronze atlas]

I am fine now

dw

[bronze atlas]

fun quiz but no idea

[junior latch]

Btw this isnt raw reload but with cancels (i know off)

[bronze atlas]

reload of 2?

[junior latch]

2/10

[bronze atlas]

ikik

[sharp owl]

pistol?

[bronze atlas]

I would say the same

[junior latch]

pistol… reload of 2?

[sharp owl]

bat

[bronze atlas]

but yeah

[junior latch]

2 is bad

[sharp owl]

oh

[bronze atlas]

reload of two is too bad

[analog flicker]

Is this shit precision rifle?

[bronze atlas]

is it precision?

man you read my mind

[junior latch]

no

[clear mirage]

damn thats like the first guess

[analog flicker]

Fawk

[bronze atlas]

I like it

[clear mirage]

but good stagger

[sharp owl]

rifle?

[bronze atlas]

I might have to boot gtfo

[junior latch]

rifle also has a good reload

[bronze atlas]

I am curious now

[analog flicker]

HAR?

[bronze atlas]

HEL shotty?

damage is too low for that

nvm

[sharp owl]

veruta

[junior latch]

nop

[sharp owl]

[junior latch]

close but no cigar

Veruta also has insane stagger

[clear mirage]

probably a type of shotgun

[analog flicker]

Arby?

[bronze atlas]

more than 7?

[junior latch]

i have it as 9

for verura on stagger

[analog flicker]

Tbh for how fast veruta shoots as well probably

[clear mirage]

hel shotgun

[junior latch]

no

[sharp owl]

so

a full cfoam can reinforce 9 doors

choke

[junior latch]

New stat to think over (same gun)

Range: 7

[bronze atlas]

ooh

DMR?

[junior latch]

this is gonna fuck some peoples minds

[analog flicker]

...

[junior latch]

dmr has 10/10 range

[analog flicker]

DmR has 50m range-

[bronze atlas]

there is so little guns left

come on

we can do this

burst cannon?

[sharp owl]

burst rifle

[true pilot]

carbine?

[junior latch]

burst cannon, dmg 4

[analog flicker]

Is this fuckin bullpup?

[junior latch]

no no and no

[analog flicker]

[bronze atlas]

yeah man I never used it

[sharp owl]

knife

[knotty bobcat]

Heavy smg?

[sharp owl]

no wait spear

[bronze atlas]

7/10 range

[sharp owl]

its the spear

[junior latch]

repeating

Damage: 4/10
Stagger 7/10
Range 7/10
Reload 2/10

[true pilot]

Dmg 4? What can that be

[sharp owl]

sniper

is damage like DPS or per shot

[junior latch]

no melees btw

[analog flicker]

Sniper being range 7

What

[knotty bobcat]

Oh. That sorta stats

Bullpup rifle?

[sharp owl]

nvm thats a stupid guess

[junior latch]

damage is per shot

[true pilot]

Hel revo?

or revo

[bronze atlas]

reload is 2

[knotty bobcat]

Hel revo is a 10/10 on reload

[junior latch]

2 = bad

[true pilot]

oh right

[junior latch]

eh its a 9 imo

[analog flicker]

High cal?

[junior latch]

pdw exists

[bronze atlas]

I want to say double tap but damage is higher

[true pilot]

and double tap has a decent realod i think

[bronze atlas]

yeah

[junior latch]

???

[bronze atlas]

like a 5-6

[sharp owl]

hel gun or hel rifle

[knotty bobcat]

My guesses are
Bullpup
Precision rifle
Hel Gun

[junior latch]

team wth

[analog flicker]

Hel gun still has a good reload cancel...

[junior latch]

yes

[bronze atlas]

I mean double taps damage is higher

[true pilot]

Eva you made an impossible guess

[bronze atlas]

than

4

[knotty bobcat]

I've only used it once :]

[junior latch]

like how are these quick reloads guessed

Another stat added

[knotty bobcat]

2 of mine were slow.

[junior latch]

repeating

Damage: 4/10
Stagger 7/10
Range 7/10
Reload 2/10
Ammo/efficiency: 8/10

[true pilot]

hell autopisyol

[bronze atlas]

definitely a shotty

nvm

7 range

[true pilot]

range 7/10 shotgun?

maybe choke mode

but it was said already i think

[bronze atlas]

choke's reload is great

[knotty bobcat]

Okay dmg
Good stagger
Good range
bad reload
Great ammo efficiency

[analog flicker]

Choke mod with 4 damage?

[analog flicker]

It isn't-

[junior latch]

solace thinking

[knotty bobcat]

Choke's gotta be 9/10 dmg minimum else I'm flying out of here

[bronze atlas]

well lets say

not bad

it isnt THAT great

[ruby temple]

Default smg reload

[true pilot]

smg

[ruby temple]

[junior latch]

8/10

[ruby temple]

Less than 1 second

[sharp owl]

ar?

[bronze atlas]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[true pilot]

regular ar?

[junior latch]

Itd above 1 second

[knotty bobcat]

Fuck's a 9 then

[sharp owl]

nah nvm

im not thinking

[junior latch]

Sniper

[ruby temple]

Wha

[knotty bobcat]

??
What's a 10 then
Nothing hits harder than a sniper

[junior latch]

context for dmg

Pdw is a 2

[junior latch]

Burst cannon/scattergun

[knotty bobcat]

No

[analog flicker]

Is it HAR?

[knotty bobcat]

you said per bullet

and scattergun dont exist

[junior latch]

a burst = a bullet for burst cannon

[knotty bobcat]

BRUH

[true pilot]

Alt R6 drop rn

i wish

[junior latch]

even then, scattergun more than triples sniper dmg

[bronze atlas]

man....

[junior latch]

precision is ignored btw

for dmg

[sharp owl]

double tap?

[junior latch]

Next stat added:
(With context)
repeating

Damage: 4/10 (pdw is a 2)
Stagger 7/10
Range 7/10
Reload 2/10
Ammo/efficiency: 8/10
Precision: 6

[knotty bobcat]

With these paremeters its impossible to guess

[bronze atlas]

its not

[true pilot]

Precision 6?!

what can it be god dammit

[bronze atlas]

HEL gun?

no

[knotty bobcat]

Saw off

[analog flicker]

Is this Arbalist?

[true pilot]

pistol was said, dmr was said

[bronze atlas]

it cant be

[true pilot]

rifle was said

machineguns?

i doubt machineguns would be it

although

ammo efficieny i guess

[knotty bobcat]

Burst Rifle?

[junior latch]

Precision/stagger/range are all multi step stats so they are harder to guess tbf

But dmg is a flat way to rank it, same for ammo/econ, reload and hipfire

[analog flicker]

I wouldn't rate burst rifle reload at 2

[bronze atlas]

I agree

[junior latch]

reload should honestly be the biggest giveaway

[knotty bobcat]

I dont know any reloads tbh

[knotty bobcat]

I've said every slow reload gun I know

[elfin osprey]

reload cancel go brrrrrr

[true pilot]

i guess machineguns do have long reloads

[junior latch]

theres only 7 guns at 2 or 1 reload

[sharp owl]

has to be hel rifle

[junior latch]

dmg???

[true pilot]

2 damage?

[analog flicker]

Hel rifle with damage 4

[junior latch]

range??

[bronze atlas]

bro this reload only fits with shotguns or the precision rifle but nothing else fits with those

[analog flicker]

What

[sharp owl]

breh

[junior latch]

No shotgun outside of hel shotty has that bad of a reload

anyone want a last guess?

[knotty bobcat]

Hel Rifle
Hel Shotgun
Choke mod shotgun
Precision rifle
Sniper
High Cal
DMR

I dont know any other bad reloads

[junior latch]

ill drop it otherwise

[bronze atlas]

I said HEL shotty but the damage is fine and precision is too high for it

[true pilot]

high cal?

or was it said

[bronze atlas]

idk

[junior latch]

Choke mod is meh (close tho with a 3)
High cal and dmr are good to great

[true pilot]

Wait no

damage

high cal has nice damage

i dont froggin know

[junior latch]

3

[bronze atlas]

no one does