#gtfo-chat

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snow pilot
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man i sure love going in abandon labs with horrors beyond my imgenation

rose nova
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:D

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i love this game

ancient dove
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don't open security door in r2b1 with bots.

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they don't stay where they are and they often get blasted by mine if you try to open it.

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also they prioritize reviving you whilst getting attacked by a giant...?

rose nova
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usually with those, run away as soon as u open it

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also yeah

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they prioritize revives over all

ancient dove
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i got revived and died instantly.

clear elm
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Hi all! Thinking about buying this game right now, it looks awesome. How easy is it to make friends/gaming buddies for coop action?

ancient dove
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well, i have some fun experiences with new comers

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as a new comer myself

rose nova
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hellooo :]
i found funky people playin here, usin the LFG channels u can have randoms fast usually

rose nova
ancient dove
clear elm
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Sooo definitely recommend buying? I’m pretty much sold on the gameplay, just worried about teaming up since I don’t have anyone to play with 😦

obtuse garnet
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played like 12 rounds in total, found 1 guy i normally invite for a game and i think ppl here are more concerned about teaching eachother since it will gain their run aswell

ancient dove
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playing with people who's also news to the game seems to be the most enjoyable for me.

rose nova
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yeah i always recommend not gettin carried, askin to not get it specificcally :]

ancient dove
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playing with veteran however is a different experience.

clear elm
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Nice! Sounds like it’s easy to find friends then

ancient dove
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ya, just queue up in lfg and join their games

rose nova
clear elm
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Yeah I like playing with people of similar experience, not being carried etc

obtuse garnet
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my first run ever got so carried i just passivly went by so its a good advice to ask not to xD

rose nova
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ah the thing

clear elm
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Is it a cool community?

ancient dove
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It's pretty timid.

rose nova
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i think its cool :3

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i like it here

ancient dove
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some don't talk much idk why

clear elm
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Awesome! Sold. I’ll see ya in the prison then hahaha

rose nova
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yayy :D

ancient dove
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i enjoys when all of us knows absolutely nothing and freaks out when something goes slightly wrong

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haha

obtuse garnet
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americans go in for the voice comms i reckon :p

ancient dove
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the screams

rose nova
ancient dove
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btw how do you send voice channel's links

obtuse garnet
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most americans ive played with use the voice chat and comms like 'copy', 'combohit at 3' like calling out comms (which is rly good imo)

rose nova
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um idk i use the q n chat too but i thought americans would use voice more

rose nova
ancient dove
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aight.

kind ruin
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that sound is the sound of jeff coming for us

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.t lfg

foggy plankBOT
rose nova
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mksdmk

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this is not a lfg situation

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this is a

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ban

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situation

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:3

kind ruin
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admit it i made you laugh

rose nova
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mayb

uneven night
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Anybody wanna play team deathmatch?

rose nova
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u can probs find that in, lfg channels kmksdm i guess

jaunty pollen
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@kind ruinsay cat 2

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me say~

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we say~

hollow merlin
thick temple
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it's essentially their version of "lol" iirc, though obv feel free to correct me slendi

hollow spade
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anyone wanna do r7 b3?

latent palm
foggy plankBOT
latent palm
surreal plaza
lone wraith
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Dealing over 300% hp of damage total over the course of all our plays

balmy crown
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Hey I’m not exactly sure where to ask any of this. Im both new to GTFO and discord (I’ve only used discord for voice chat in my friend groups private server). I’ve played through only the first 2 parts of rundown 1 (solo and with 1 or 2 friends) and holy crap I’m loving this game. I have loads of questions about the game though and I would like to find people to help me get through some of the tougher levels and show me how to be better at the game overall. One thing that has quite confused me… where is rundown 6? I heard that’s where the boss “kraken” is. For me Atleast I can access every rundown except for 6 and 8 (I’m figuring 8 just isn’t out yet)

rough robin
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rundown 6 is out right now

rough robin
elfin osprey
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that mean r6 is almost here

rough robin
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i can almost taste it

elfin osprey
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the smell

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i can taste kraken soul

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so fresh

balmy crown
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Why is that? Are they just working on it? I heard something about alt rundowns. Is that just reworked versions of the old system where rundowns would get replaced?

elfin osprey
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so doom slayer

rough robin
balmy crown
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And so they just haven’t finished 6’s remaster yet?

elfin osprey
elfin osprey
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they are just on a vacation

balmy crown
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Oh ok

elfin osprey
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a really long vacation

rough robin
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they're back now

balmy crown
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So am I at the moment and I can’t play till next week… but god do I want to

rough robin
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they got another one

balmy crown
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This game has really peaked my interests. Almost a mixture of all elements I’ve been waiting for in a co op shooter. I’m kicking myself that I only found out about it like 2 months ago

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What do you guys suggest for primary and secondary gun load outs? I really like DMR and sniper or hel revolver and combat shotgun for my load outs so far and I really enjoy using the knife as long as my teammates are running sledge or spear.

elfin osprey
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hel rev/carbine/pdw for main, special is situational

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at the same time, its personal reference

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if u dont like hel rev/carbine/pdw, go for the gun that u like

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Hel shotty is a bit weird for a main gun though

sharp siren
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Pro tip when balancing ammo you get 17% on your main weaponnand your special get around 30%

balmy crown
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I noticed with fully automatic guns I tend to use up my ammo way too fast. And that kinda makes sense for me I’ve always played more semi auto and bolt action style guns in other games.

sharp siren
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Control burst

elfin osprey
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Control fire

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Dont just spam spray

balmy crown
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Also I did start off using the hel shotgun at first. But I don’t like it so much anymore. Doesn’t do enough damage or the spray is too wide idk…

balmy crown
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Yeah I feel you…

elfin osprey
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Its also have a ton of damage

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Its just in the wrong place

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Hel shotty should be in special not main

balmy crown
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What about high cal pistol? Haven’t gotten a chance to use that one yet

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Oops… there’s a spot in the discord legit called gtfo related questions… my bad

elfin osprey
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Eh

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Thats gtfo general chat#3

sharp siren
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You basically a wall when dealing with enemies

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Your suppose to play agressively on the initial wave

balmy crown
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Stagger gun basically?

sharp siren
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So your basically the first guy to shoot the incomijg wave

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Pretty muxh

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But you do damage unlile autopeepee

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You can stop absolutetly everything with it (aside from.bosses)

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Its just that its playstyle requires it to be played aggresively so people dont know how to use it

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Specially when most people play more conservatively and defensive

normal lake
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Being agressive in a alarm is a quick way to end up being uncomfortabley close to the floor unwillingly

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Hel shotty is such a weird gun

junior latch
robust gull
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also nothing makes me feel so fucking masculine like facefucking a wave with 14 hel shotgun shots

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blood door wave*

junior latch
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sometimes…

robust gull
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BULLSHIT

junior latch
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scatter when you doing death% speeds huh?

robust gull
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irl or in game

junior latch
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game

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LOL

robust gull
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give me a knife

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i've been using a spear for the last month, tried to go back to the hammer, the amount of misses made me feel like i actually had no depth perception

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i'll be on the floor faster than a hooker at a bachelor party

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....CONSENSUALLY.

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mods

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no hurt pls

spare pebble
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"Banhammer intensifies"

junior latch
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Spear oof

junior latch
robust gull
sharp sable
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use knife to wake enemies faster

junior latch
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the only things not differentiated are sentrys and mom/guns arent included since its solo

robust gull
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are things under an umbrella or do i have to repeat for each mob?

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-die to big charger tongue
-die to big charger punch
-die to charger punch
-die to charger tongue
-die to striker tongue
-die to big striker tongue
-die to big striker punch
OR
-die to punch
-die to lick

junior latch
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die to charger

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die to striker

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lick/punch isnt differentiated

robust gull
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boo

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death% 100% when

junior latch
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all deaths chained :^)

sharp siren
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Unless you suck yeah youll end up on tbe floor

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You get in and out quick to get full value

normal lake
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Bots and close combat dont mix

junior latch
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positioning issue

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same for with other players

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if you obviously push up people will not shoot you unless they are trolling or litteraly brand new

sharp siren
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Your pulling variables out of your ass

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Im talking about hel.shotgun playstyle

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You play agressive and funnel

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At the beggining of a wave so you get full stopping power

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Not really that complicated

junior latch
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st?

true pilot
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stagger?

sharp siren
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Sorry i got big fingers

junior latch
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xD

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btw dragon, whats the most buggiest we can get a level to be with the bug list we did yesterday KEKW ?
i wanna see how cursed we could theoretically make a run

sharp owl
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bruh looking for a game is such a fucking pain

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holy shit

true pilot
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Are you using discord lfg?

sharp owl
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yeah and sitting in empty voice chats for half an hour

little ridge
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What map do you want to do exactly?

sharp owl
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i guess that one

little ridge
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Join VC60

sharp owl
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When does a player stop being a beginner

latent palm
wispy bluff
sharp owl
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i think im pretty good at stealth but just horrible at the whole "shooting" thing

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sometimes i go nuts with the precision rifle and headshot 4 in a row but that's about it

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when they're close im useless

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pump shotgun is good for close quarters

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combat shotgun as well

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plenty of ammo to work with and can 1 tap heads

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i just killed my first ever scout with a knife

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woohoo

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i really dont like that you need to dance around for bioscans

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you're forced into the open

white raptor
ancient dove
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man... i'm waiting for sequel

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stfu

sharp owl
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the sequel to the critically aclaimed game "gtfo"

We present "stfu"

All prisoners are equipped with flamethrowers. go nuts.

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that'd make a good april fools event

junior latch
rose nova
junior latch
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we play with hard core desyncing host, getting 4 snatchers after resetting the level 20+ times for the true garden tile experience

We try to get someone who often gets liquid bug then try to get permanent snatcher tentacles and use a bot that ignores teamscans (hopefully), we run shotguns for shotgun sway bug, pdw for thermals that dont see shooter bullets, try to get silent error spawns on the error side, get memory leak for shooter bug, run spears for spear shove issue, door bug and black hop baby and many more

And we finish it off with getting an infinite screaming scout obviously :^ )

junior latch
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Demonstrating how to get them makes it take hours and hours tho :^ )

rose nova
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i just remembered a compilation of like some random bad game showin all of its bugs, and i was like well gtfo is cool but i wonder what would happen if the same video was made for it :b

peak nova
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@left dome which chat you in?

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ah nm you got 4

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someone need a 3rd or 4th?

ruby temple
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How the hell do yall even do the 2 error alarms in r7b3 PE extraction

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Four chargers are hard to deal with

analog flicker
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uh

sharp owl
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its not that bad you just need to shoot em

analog flicker
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you shoot them.

sharp owl
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try not to rush

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you will only die

analog flicker
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the bigger issue is just managing carrying the obj/fog turbine

sharp owl
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u can place a sniper sentry outside the security door it will pick off some chargers so u can scan the hsu in peace

analog flicker
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<.<;;

sharp owl
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that initial wave of strikers is a dick spawn

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why is it even a thing

analog flicker
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"Difficulty tweak"

ruby temple
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We did the funky thing

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Where we prescanned the hsu to 80%

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Before picking up the cargo

wispy bluff
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Da big brain

ruby temple
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Courtesy of @latent palm

latent palm
ruby temple
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Man taught me everything we needed to know about r7b3

ruby temple
sharp owl
ruby temple
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I kinda forgot jn and we lost

latent palm
junior latch
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extraction is honestly the easy part

sharp owl
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choke mod>>>

latent palm
junior latch
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the middle path is the biggest challenge

latent palm
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the part where u go through check point and fight there

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is the biggest road block

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after that its just straight-left-straight-right-hard left-straight - 2 lefts on stairs and right

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easy home

junior latch
sharp owl
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asking for directions be like

latent palm
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i drop down the terminal

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its the first set of stairs

junior latch
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huh

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wait you go downstairs in the alarm room?

ruby temple
latent palm
sharp owl
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use the ladder

latent palm
sharp owl
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ladder foam

latent palm
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not that

sharp owl
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foam ladder

latent palm
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the stairs hard left to the security door

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thats the one i was refering to

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@ruby temple when R7C2

ruby temple
latent palm
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i think R6B1 has the best introduction ever of the warp gate

junior latch
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yea

sharp owl
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yeah its quite fun

ruby temple
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Is the warp gate the same thingy as the data cube

sharp owl
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yes but cooler

ruby temple
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Hmmmm

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Should during the run back to extraction

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The person with tracker and hel gun should take care of the chargers?

sharp owl
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cargo guy can always drop help and pick again

latent palm
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the fog turbine guy is always gonna be foam-mine gun

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the cargo-sentry guy should always soem foggies on him

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should things go ugly

analog flicker
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not if you bring 4 bios

latent palm
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4 bios R7B3

analog flicker
latent palm
ruby temple
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Deagle one taps chargers?

analog flicker
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no

latent palm
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nope

wispy bluff
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Much unfortunately no

latent palm
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it used to be

wispy bluff
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5 dmg too short

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25 dmg vs 30 hp

ruby temple
wispy bluff
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And they don't have a head weak spot so...

analog flicker
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slaps +20% damage booster

ruby temple
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But i was pretty sure i was one tapping them

latent palm
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i like how i changed from

analog flicker
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HHEHEEEYYYEEEAH BOYYYEEE

wispy bluff
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It used to one tap them before the nerf

latent palm
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lover of high cal=> lover of Veruta=> lover of hel rifle

wispy bluff
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It can also one tap them from behind or with a +20% booster damage

analog flicker
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but a full hp charge will survive

wispy bluff
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I mean it still leaves them with 5 HP

sharp owl
ruby temple
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I was pretty sure i was one tapping heads

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Even without dmg boosts

wispy bluff
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That's one extra bullet from Drekker 556 rifle

analog flicker
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chargers don't have head ulti.

ruby temple
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I just was

analog flicker
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they

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dont

ruby temple
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They were going down in one shot

analog flicker
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the only reason to shoot it is for headshot stagger

ruby temple
wispy bluff
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Were shots from behind and was it before alt r1

ruby temple
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How much hp does giant charger have?

junior latch
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120

analog flicker
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30

wispy bluff
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30

analog flicker
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ah

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giant charger

wispy bluff
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Oh giant charger

analog flicker
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120

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same as a normal giant

wispy bluff
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Normals 30 giant 120

analog flicker
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striker

ruby temple
wispy bluff
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Hcp deals 25

junior latch
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btw ive seen so many people think precision rifle 1 or 2 shots giants cuz they dont realize their team/sentry did any dmg

analog flicker
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normal giants have 120

ruby temple
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How much dmg does sniper do?

junior latch
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i mean giants all have 120 (or 150 for ranged variants) hp

wispy bluff
ruby temple
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I can one tap giants with sniper

junior latch
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40 base, but its head crits make it 1 shot all but giant chargers

analog flicker
latent palm
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man i bored

ruby temple
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Can mastaba revolver one shot chargers

latent palm
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i wana do R1A1 speedrun

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anyone up?

wispy bluff
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Tell me about it, I'm in metro

ruby temple
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Im guessing no?

latent palm
sharp owl
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no

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choke one shots em

wispy bluff
junior latch
ruby temple
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Breh

junior latch
ruby temple
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Oh well back to deagle

latent palm
latent palm
analog flicker
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hel rifle my baby

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❤️

wispy bluff
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Chargers die to sawed off, pump action, choke mode, hel rifle, sniper rifle

latent palm
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the only reason i swapped to hel rilfe

ruby temple
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But using sniper on charger is kinda

wispy bluff
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Yes.

latent palm
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is cause machine gun fucks up my computer

ruby temple
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Uhhhhhhh

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Not ideal

wispy bluff
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HEL Rifle is a certified weapon of a charger hunter

ruby temple
latent palm
ruby temple
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charge up time

analog flicker
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hel rifle charge up time is so short lol

latent palm
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with a 0.25s charge up

wispy bluff
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Getting triple charger kill in a single shot is the highest dopamine hit gtfo can provide

latent palm
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is a blink

junior latch
ruby temple
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I dont like it when theres a delay when i press shoot and when my bullet flies out

latent palm
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i fucking love it

analog flicker
wispy bluff
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Based and I agree

latent palm
wispy bluff
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I hate charge ups too

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There's a reason not a single IRL weapon does that

analog flicker
ruby temple
junior latch
latent palm
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i mean its a gas charge weapon

junior latch
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tbh im technically down
but im currently in food coma

latent palm
analog flicker
wispy bluff
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They do it in microseconds

ruby temple
wispy bluff
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Go watch a10 mini gun test runs

junior latch
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hel gun being 0.2

latent palm
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if only i dont have college

sharp owl
latent palm
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forgor

analog flicker
junior latch
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me with work tmrw :I

analog flicker
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not the actual charge up

junior latch
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isnt the delay after 0.75??

latent palm
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im not young anyomre KEK

junior latch
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i dont remember

ruby temple
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How much dmg does hel rifle and gun do?

analog flicker
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30

latent palm
analog flicker
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21.9 on precision

latent palm
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30.1 for hel rifle

ruby temple
analog flicker
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idk hel guns precision

latent palm
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whatchu mean "ew"?

ruby temple
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I want that Big pp dmg

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Hel rifle

latent palm
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pre nert its a monster in S+

analog flicker
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hel gun 16.5 damage is good-

latent palm
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the fire rate was crack out coccaine

analog flicker
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yeah

latent palm
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now it is still S tier

ruby temple
latent palm
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if not 1st place in A tiers

ruby temple
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We should have a flamethrower tool

latent palm
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its the gun that you would see next to a hel rifle on any reactor run

analog flicker
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me who runs hel rifle regardless

latent palm
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cause you can single hand a full reactor timer wave + 1 burst sentry

latent palm
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S tier or no its not my fav

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it aint my bby

ruby temple
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Is sniper too strong

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And in turn too niche

latent palm
junior latch
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flamethrower is incredibly hard to balance
also would need to be very specifically created

latent palm
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imagine R6 sinper

analog flicker
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get good at hip firing it. and it's an unethical shotgun

latent palm
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3/16 ammo R6 sniper

junior latch
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R6 sniper god of all heavy weapons not called burst cannon and scattergun

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3/15

analog flicker
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18 bullets

junior latch
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18 total

analog flicker
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crazy shit

latent palm
junior latch
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it was never 16

ruby temple
latent palm
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i guess i played mods

ruby temple
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One tapping titans

wispy bluff
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I demand 3/12

latent palm
junior latch
latent palm
ruby temple
analog flicker
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sniper hits hard at the cost of not having much ammo

latent palm
analog flicker
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also 3 bullet mag

junior latch
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but it 1 taps anything small so its a "oh shit" shot or to balance ammo

latent palm
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3 BIG ASS BULLETS IN A MAG

ruby temple
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I found myself using deagle over sniper cause i have no use for the overkill

junior latch
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high cal vs giants

analog flicker
junior latch
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vs sniper vs giants

ruby temple
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Titans? Just melee and dont skissue

latent palm
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boom

latent palm
junior latch
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instead of high cal theres

  • shotgun
  • choke mod shotgun
  • hel rifle
  • hel gun
  • combat shotty
latent palm
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shredded the cannon balls and shot

junior latch
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sniper instantly deleating any giant threat from anywhere

latent palm
ruby temple
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Can deagle one tap anything that is not a charger or giant or scout?

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To the body

sharp owl
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strikers and shadows

latent palm
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not even shooters

sharp owl
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not even shooters 😭

ruby temple
analog flicker
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remember. Deagle can't kill charger scouts. BUT SAWED OFF CAN

wispy bluff
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Deagle only one taps biters.
Shooters and scouts to the head only.

junior latch
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high cal is a beginner gun

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that works fine if the level is mostly strikers and some giants/scouts

latent palm
junior latch
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low peak

latent palm
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very low peak performance

junior latch
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high base

wispy bluff
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Beginner guns are cringe

junior latch
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its not very low peak

latent palm
wispy bluff
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I don't see a level up system with gun progress

junior latch
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its just a good gun to recommend for beginners

wispy bluff
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Make it good or delete from game, I don't need this illusion of choice

ruby temple
junior latch
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its completely fine unless you want something more specific

ruby temple
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Not like you need to

latent palm
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what if we could upgrade by scavanging weapon parts

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that'd be so awsome

junior latch
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people be acting like high cal is F tier sometimes

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when its easily B

ruby temple
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I just kill off the awakers, then bonk the shooters to death

latent palm
ruby temple
analog flicker
latent palm
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the reload is very merciful

ruby temple
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Just run in and bonk them

latent palm
wispy bluff
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Buff mag size to 7 and give extra mag of ammo and I think I'll be totally okay with it

junior latch
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instead of high cal just run revolver honestly

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same issues

latent palm
junior latch
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but far better ammo and reload wise

ruby temple
latent palm
analog flicker
wispy bluff
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If we nerfed it to generic deagle damage then why aren't we going with generic deagle magazine too

analog flicker
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😎

ruby temple
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But like you should still be able to one shot shooter, cause when they attack they stay still for a while. If you cant blow out their brains then its a skissue

latent palm
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i want my 6 chambered

analog flicker
latent palm
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is when they miss

ruby temple
latent palm
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so you dont have to dodge the projectiles

junior latch
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lets shove @ruby temple into r1b2 speedruns with high cal

latent palm
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yes

ruby temple
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Nohhhhhhhhhhhh

latent palm
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YES

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YES

ruby temple
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Wait whats r1b2 again?

analog flicker
latent palm
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@junior latch college can suck my ass

ruby temple
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Forgor

analog flicker
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Women's Ward

latent palm
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i want to see this

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I NEED TO WITNESS THIS SPEEDRUN

ruby temple
#

But in my defense, i genuinely dont have a problem not one tapping shooters with deagle

junior latch
#

if you take time to aim

ruby temple
#

Even if i do its not bad

junior latch
#

and have no other threat

analog flicker
latent palm
#

better to get dmr and do the same deal

#

hehe "DMR" doing ur mom

ruby temple
#

Just blow heads, its as shrimple as that

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Only time i find an issue with deagle is with giants

#

But 1 to the head and two to the body should be enough

latent palm
#

u up for one quick run @ruby temple

ruby temple
#

Then i just scream "LET ME SOLO HIM"

latent palm
#

i want 1 game and mimir

latent palm
#

aight

#

solo bolo then

ruby temple
junior latch
#

the extra dmg doesnt exist

ruby temple
#

Deagle doesnt have a headshot multiplier on titans?

junior latch
#

25 dmg
giant head multi is 1,5x
high cal crit multi is 0.74

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leading to ~26/27 dmg
which doesnt matter since 120 hp

wispy bluff
#

Another high cal l

junior latch
#

the less than 1 precision multi is to buff body shots

ruby temple
#

Hell does crit multiplier reduce damage

junior latch
#

a lot of gun have that

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it does not reduce dmg

#

it lowers it

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to stop breakpoints

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like dmr 1 shotting strikers, hel revo 1 shotting shooters and strikers

ruby temple
#

Well

wispy bluff
#

Mfw GTFO balance design

ruby temple
#

If it shoots, i can kill with it

junior latch
#

its honestly very smart balance

ruby temple
#

Even if it doesnt give more damage, stagger is still good

wispy bluff
#

25,00001 dmg
0,75345 weak point multiplier
1,59577 specific enemy head multiplier

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It's like dark souls lore in gun balance form

ruby temple
#

Sometimes the pace at which titans can walk are terrifying

wispy bluff
#

Its called hyperbole

ruby temple
#

Where is the occiput of a sleeper?

#

Is it very specific or is it just the general area of the back of its head and neck

analog flicker
#

your position behind them

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to the head

#

it'a combination of 2x Back damage angle and the headshot multi

wispy bluff
#

It's that simple

#

You shoot head while standing behind them

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Like getting backstab with a spy

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The more behind you are - the more damage you get

analog flicker
#

Giant striker
head - 1.5x
back - 2x (this is for most enemies that have access to back damage)
head + back - 3x

ruby temple
#

Occiputs have a 6 times dmg multiplier or something?

analog flicker
#

no

#

it's dependent on the enemy

wispy bluff
#

Backstab damage X2 multiplied by head multi

junior latch
#

occiput is just 2x of the headmulti

analog flicker
#

you basically double the enemies headshot

wispy bluff
#

So if enemy has an X2 head weakness

#

Then it's X2 headshot damage X2 backstab for x4 total

ruby temple
#

Full charge hammer does 20 iirc?

analog flicker
#

yes

wispy bluff
#

Example: hammer damage on giant striker.
20 raw damage on full charge
x2 backstab = 40
x1,5 head = 60 damage total with a flawless occi

ruby temple
#

So as long as its behind them and on the head, i should get the occiput multiplier?

wispy bluff
#

Yes.

#

Again - you must stay precisely behind them, watching in the same direction they do.

#

As you start moving to their relative sides - you slowly lose the flanking bonus.

#

I'm not certain as for precise degrees.

#

But being at their 3 or 9 o clock removes it completely I think

ruby temple
#

Thanks

#

I needed to know this to bonk them better

#

Hold on spear is better for raw damage?

wispy bluff
#

Basically:
Stay at their 6 o clock for max damage
5/7 o clock for "good enough"

sharp owl
#

That's a good question, probably not

wispy bluff
#

NO

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17,5 full charge raw damage

quartz cape
wispy bluff
#

And some +13% extra damage with a headshot

ruby temple
#

Multiplier

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Or something

wispy bluff
#

Flawless spear occi gets 68 damage on giant strikers

#

Vs hammers 60

ruby temple
wispy bluff
#

Literally doesn't matter

ruby temple
#

Truly shocking

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Im changing

#

/j

sharp owl
#

What about big boys

ruby temple
#

Bonk is easier to use

wispy bluff
#

I wrote 10c a massive essay on current state of the spear so hopefully they do something

sharp owl
#

Is it that bad

pine root
#

No

wispy bluff
#

It is

sharp owl
#

The extra range and good damage have to be decent

wispy bluff
#

Literally the wosrt melee

pine root
wispy bluff
#

Hammer does everything better. Everything. Except that 13% headshot damage difference and extra 3 pixels of hitbox range.

pine root
#

And light tap is 2

sharp owl
#

I saw on yt that it's a safer way to dispatch giants because you can stay out of their range

pine root
#

These are big issues

wispy bluff
ruby temple
#

But hammer

sharp owl
#

Do you though

#

Both are slow

wispy bluff
#

You can just get more skilled with hammer and be a superior KSO for it.

pine root
#

Yeah

#

Hammer is insane

sharp owl
#

Why

ruby temple
#

You cant charge and sprint with spear, but you can with hammer

pine root
#

3 light tap. 20 dmg sprint and x5 stagger

quartz cape
#

balance is hard

wispy bluff
#

Also... also also also

#

A little secret spear users don't want you to know

ruby temple
#

Sometimes you can clutch up if you accidentally aggro an enemy further away by running and charging

pine root
pine root
sharp owl
#

Wait different weapons have different shoves

pine root
#

They we couldn’t complain

pine root
junior latch
quartz cape
#

chat gpt, how should i balance my game?

little ridge
#

Spear shove stops stamina regen IIRC

#

Just pick hammer, really

#

you're going to eventually anyway

sharp owl
#

I already fucken use the hammer

wispy bluff
#

Spear quick stab damage is 2.0
Hammer quick swing damage is 3.0

Spear needs to quick stab a biter x10 times to kill it while hammer only needs x7 AND it stunlocks the victim while at it!

sharp owl
#

I just don't understand why the spear is so trash tier

wispy bluff
#

It's disgusting to me how much better hammer is.

pine root
junior latch
ruby temple
#

The Stagger chain is realllllllllllll

quartz cape
junior latch
#

basic enemy has 20 hp

#

hammer has 20 flat dmg

#

spear doesnt

#

boom

pine root
ruby temple
junior latch
#

it does 17,5

pine root
#

But light tap full charger doesn’t full kill

ruby temple
#

Literally unusable

junior latch
#

well true

#

it would still be a hinderance if it had 3 light tap

#

but it wouldnt be as shit

ruby temple
#

Im disappointed beyond disbelieve

quartz cape
#

hey you put that back

#

you can't correct someone and then wimp out

little ridge
#

It's less about wimping out

#

and more about it being unimportant

clear mirage
#

Pretty easy to solo a giant with a spear by full charging other limbs after the occiput

pine root
#

That isn’t the point

ruby temple
little ridge
#

Super easyish as host

clear mirage
#

With more safety

sharp owl
#

Host?

#

Why does that matter

pine root
ruby temple
little ridge
#

get behind full charge occiput then start charging and release at like 85% charge or whatever on a limb

ruby temple
#

So you dont tp into range or something

little ridge
sharp owl
#

I've never noticed ping problems

little ridge
#

Just need to release sooner

ruby temple
clear mirage
ruby temple
#

Probably cause im always hosting

little ridge
#

You two never played from EU to SEA or whatever

sharp owl
#

Yup

#

Because i am mentally stable

ruby temple
#

My internet is pretty good

pine root
little ridge
#

Distance is distance

clear mirage
#

I played from sea to eu

pine root
#

If you are gonna miss it go for scream cancel

little ridge
#

Traffic gets routed through chokepoints for underwater sea cables on cross-continent stuff

clear mirage
#

Regreted the ping

pine root
#

It is funny the ping interactions are cool

ruby temple
#

Anyways

little ridge
#

It's why I always laughed at the guy posting "Hosting with Gigabit Internet!"

ruby temple
#

Bonk bonk is more fun

little ridge
#

Because it's meaningless

clear mirage
#

I love sliding torso less strikers

ruby temple
#

Screw giving the enemy straight holes

little ridge
#

Especially speed is meaningless when latency is a thing

ruby temple
#

Im sure they appreciate repeated blunt force traums

little ridge
#

And that's without taking stuff like fastpathing into account

ruby temple
#

Another thing, its easier to kill scouts with hammer over spear

wispy bluff
#

Debatable

#

Spear has more reliable hitbox

junior latch
#

no it is easier

clear mirage
#

Is it safe to assume the game is considered a rage game? Since yknow it takes an hour or more with a good chance of failing near the end

junior latch
#

is it easier to not fuck up when you dont know hammer swing yet? yes

wispy bluff
#

Then again you can sprint...

junior latch
#

is it easier to actually kill scouts with hammer, yes

wispy bluff
#

That gives you options

junior latch
#

eh, the game isnt supposed to make you rage but to make you want to clear it better next time

ruby temple
#

Cause if ur sneaking up to it then it extends its tendrils you can sprint and charge ur hammer to bonk it, while you have to wimp out or take the risk with spear

clear mirage
#

Some people do one or two rounds and don’t feel like another attempt

junior latch
#

:D

#

some people do 1200 "rounds"

#

and then cry

ruby temple
#

Its a sad game

#

Everytime you see "EXPEDITION FAILED" You just bawl ur eyes out

clear mirage
#

I’ve been trying to solo w bots r1c1 for the past couple weeks still haven’t done it

wispy bluff
#

When I wipe on a 2 hour attempt - I don't feel rage.

#

I just become a very, very defeated lobster.

grizzled bison
#

if you play with me artek i can help you not wipe 🙂

ruby temple
#

Do not

sharp siren
#

Stop playing with bots

#

To beat entire rundowns

clear mirage
#

Hehehehaw

wispy bluff
#

I feel tired, exhausted... Depressed... So I just quit and go play another game.

ruby temple
#

Bro did c tier levels with bots and wondered why he cant win

#

😢

#

You can definitely do all a tier levels with bots

ruby temple
#

B tier maybe, but you need to know what to do

#

Anything more than b tier you need to really know what you are doing

wispy bluff
#

Came back to Team Fortress 2 recently. Still holds up. Did the entire contract grind.

clear mirage
sharp siren
#

Solo without bots?

rose nova
clear mirage
#

Oops w bots still

sharp siren
#

Then yeah

#

Not solo

#

You just doing a playtrough with bots

clear mirage
ruby temple
#

Its not "True solo", iirc thats the correct term

#

For one man runs

wispy bluff
#

Yes. Normal solo and true solo is how we distinguish them.

#

Sometimes we call it bot solo to be specific

rose nova
sharp owl
#

just say 3 bots

rose nova
#

is a mess

ruby temple
#

Unless you can tell the bots to yoink stuff r1c1 is gonna be pretty hard

rose nova
#

but how would i doooo that, could there b a mod that i could use to have better bots?

junior latch
#

r1c1 is honestly not bad with bots

#

just vibe

clear mirage
rose nova
#

i mean it is a bit

#

the fact that i did r3a3 before r1c1 should, say somethin

pine root
rose nova
#

... wait did i?

#

i dont remember

pine root
#

Random reactor waves be hitting different

junior latch
# clear mirage Cap

i mean :I
ive done it pure solo so im probably not the best person to judge that. but with bots it was a lot more calming

rose nova
#

_>

junior latch
pine root
#

You are thinking to small

rose nova
#

ah yes this E1 is hard so the D2 is not hard
i mean ksmdkm

pine root
#

3 moms spawn

rose nova
#

from ur perspective i guess

pine root
#

Into 8 hybrids and a tank

rose nova
ruby temple
#

We need 10c to make gtfo ost available on spotify

#

I want to increase my heartrate any time i want

sharp owl
#

its on yt no?

rose nova
#

yes but not on spotify :3

ruby temple
rose nova
#

no one should have yt premium

ruby temple
#

The amount of ads is so stupid

#

At least its fine on spotify

sharp owl
#

opera gx solves your problems

ruby temple
#

1 ad every 5 or 6 songs

#

But no

rose nova
#

i use adblock

ruby temple
#

1 ad every yt vid

rose nova
#

but i prefer spotify as general

#

to listen to funky music

#

gettin songs pirated in an iphone is pain

#

so i gave up on it

ruby temple
#

Listening to combat ost

#

At 3 am

sharp siren
rose nova
#

si quiero

sharp siren
#

Android besto phone

ruby temple
#

While sprinting full speed in a dark two way alley

#

Easy 200bpm heartrate

latent palm
#

@sharp owl PLAYIN WITH @lone wraith

#

NO WAY

sharp owl
#

👀

latent palm
sharp owl
#

on vacation

junior latch
#

i just beat my pb by 0.106 seconds POGSLIDE huge gamer moment

stark briar
#

Hello, I'm here for the first time and I'm looking for people who can help me get comfortable in the game, I understand English, but I would like to find Russian-speaking teammates. So I’ll figure it out faster and I won’t ruin in the next matches

lone wraith
#

(1st time ever)

sharp owl
#

im still trying to solo r1a1

#

i have 9 fucking mines

#

a cfoam nade

#

100 health

#

and a 3 use medkit

#

and max ammo

junior latch
#

do you have doors tho

sharp owl
#

and i STILL think i'll fail

#

i have doors

#

well, one

gaunt inlet
sharp owl
#

holy shit i found another cfoam

#

does cfoam dry out on doors

#

like am i on a timer now

burnt flume
#

Not on doors, only on other surfaces (4 minute timer iirc)

latent palm
sharp owl
#

phew

burnt flume
#

On enemies it disappears after a few seconds, depending on the enemy

sharp owl
#

alright i laid down 8 mines and a handheld one

#

c foamed the main door

#

and i'm gonna c foam it twice

#

because ifound two nades

#

this should be enough

#

im dead

#

yay

#

😄

lone wraith
#

I only shot a teammate in the back twice this time (on accident)

#

:D

#

Significant improvement?

sharp owl
#

depends on starting point

#

and on the weapon

#

a sniper on the back still hurts

wispy bluff
sharp owl
wispy bluff
#

more specifics

sharp owl
burnt flume
#

I've intentionally team killed someone during an alarm cleanup, played it off as an accident and they insisted a shooter killed them instead

sharp owl
#

idk what to say, big wave, lots of enemies, can't aim, not enough light, lots of flinch from getting hit

burnt flume
#

Unfortunately the recording does not have discord audio

sharp owl
#

have to run around to scan

wispy bluff
#

Are you trying to true solo or bot solo it

sharp owl
#

true solo

burnt flume
#

Actual solo

wispy bluff
#

Explains

burnt flume
#

Not crony bot solo

sharp owl
#

and i'm just fucking dogshit at aim

burnt flume
#

But yeah holding those alarms can be pretty rough

sharp owl
#

i stealth'd the entire thing

#

then when the alerts come i die

burnt flume
#

When I occasionally do solo speedrun attempts I often wipe on the class 4, or have to reset because bad hsu/run too slow

wispy bluff
#

I mean don't be surprised... The game is literally not meant to be played like that. You're kinda swimming against the current here.

sharp owl
#

nothing seems to work when soloing

#

i see others are able to pop heads very easily but i cannot

#

mines don't work, sentries aren't enough

wispy bluff
#

Are you telling me 9/10 - 10/10 players can solo hold waves and us plebs can't? Shocking

#

Embrace the plebianism

lone wraith
#

😔

junior latch
#

the "easiest" way to solo r1a1 is with cfoam launcher and just perma foam. but its pretty cheesy

sharp owl
#

but when i play with people i just kinda stand there and watch them speedrun a level while i read a book in spawn

#

and loot

wispy bluff
#

AFAIC true solo is more about avoiding fights more than winning them

burnt flume
wispy bluff
#

Cfoam spam, kiting, crowd control

#

Literally anything than just fighting 20 biters all by yourself

burnt flume
sharp owl
#

but how does one kite when the videogame forces you to remain motionless

#

in a tiny area

lone wraith
#

Does it?

sharp owl
#

if you want the alarm to stop

#

yeah

merry sluice
#

C Foam Stall doing 1 alarm at a time rekiting enemy going back

burnt flume
#

If you're kiting, then you're avoiding the scans to take time to get yourself in a favourable position

merry sluice
#

If you're new you're not beating a mission solo

burnt flume
#

The scan will continue but you'll enemy cap so it can only get so bad

merry sluice
#

Just dont even try. I have 200 hours and I cant even come close to soloing R1A1

burnt flume
#

Do try. Force yourself to improve at the game.

sharp owl
#

man.

lone wraith
merry sluice
#

Pure solo

lone wraith
#

Oh

#

Without bots

#

Insane

sharp owl
#

yeah that's what we doin

#

triple distilled pain

merry sluice
#

This game is not meant for Pure Solo. T Nenpi and others who do it are insane.

lone wraith
#

The game doesn't have scaling lol

sharp owl
#

so what you need to do is like, scan, kite, scan, kite

junior latch
lone wraith
#

Always adjusted for 4 players

burnt flume
#

It's a lot to do with shooting and positioning well, but it can take quite a while to get that skillseet

#

Skillset

sharp owl
#

i havent

wispy bluff
#

pump action is very popular with soloers

sharp owl
#

yeah i take it

#

flashlight's shit though

wispy bluff
#

those maniacs somehow get reliable oneshots from some decent range of like 10 meters

#

i have no idea how

merry sluice
#

The htibox for the shotguns is under the crosshair right?

sharp owl
#

i just saw a speedrunner do it

wispy bluff
#

what

sharp owl
#

this mf is john wick

wispy bluff
#

yeah, exactlyu

#

you have to realise some people out there play like robots

burnt flume
#

Which speedrun was it?

wispy bluff
#

flawless movements and whiffs

#

normal people don't play like that

sharp owl
#

from blablablaftw2

burnt flume
#

If it was hani's, then yeah that guy is fuckin insane

coarse grail
#

I want a veteran player to coach me 😔

sharp owl
burnt flume
#

Ah blabla, great as well

junior latch
#

blabla is also insane tbf

#

them battling out r1a1 was cracked

swift wyvern
sharp owl
#

consider the following:

#

LRF does not fire bullets

swift wyvern
#

Don't need it to, that's what your gun is for 🤔

sharp owl
#

the flashlight on my gun is not good enough to see what i am shooting at

#

i cannot use the LRF to see what im shooting at because i need to have my gun out

swift wyvern
#

Um, you should have a giant triangle on your screen for every enemy, no light needed

lone wraith
#

thermal sights...

#

Glowsticks...

junior latch
#

eyes

swift wyvern
sharp owl
#

i am not bringin a bio tracker

swift wyvern
sharp owl
#

im bringing a fucking sentry because i need firepower

#

i HAVE EARS

#

i dont need the tracker

#

i just listen

lone wraith
#

Does this guy use bots?

sharp owl
#

this guy does not use bots