gtfo-chat

[sharp siren]

10cc moment

[jade iron]

yeah and this seems most likely

I think they did use language to the effect of feature-freezing or delcaring feature-complete

[sharp sable]

Like, they've kept relatively within the rundown schedule but are reusing content to tide us over for now

Ngl I don't mind because I missed r1-r5 because of not hearing about the game really until r6

It's been fun working thru it with my boys

tbh I want r8 to just be really hard

like original vision type shit with hella resource scarcity and weak guns

[jade iron]

having moved to a feature-complete status they can add back (remasters of) the old content without it all creating baggage that breaks when big features are added

[sharp sable]

yeah

feature complete meaning there's no new mechanics right

[jade iron]

which improves the value for money for new players while not burdening them as much

[jade iron]

more-or-less

[sharp sable]

beaurocratese and plausible deniability never ceases to amaze me

[jade iron]

I'm not so bothered by their statements on the feature complete aspect

like, how strict that is really is something for their engineers to assess

there'll be stuff they can implement without rocking the boat with 7 existing rundowns in it, and stuff they can't

[sharp sable]

new enemies for example

just say they're not in the other bits of the facility

[jade iron]

I'd temper your expectations here

like maybe parts of r8 will do this

but almost guaranteed they'll want an accessible string of story levels

a la r6/r7

[sharp sable]

doesn't mean there can't also be challenge

a la r6 r7 (D3, D4) (Awol, Chaos)

Or just an E1 there to be the ng+ optional super challenge at the bottom like r4/r5

[jade iron]

okay, yeah if you have r6/r7-era difficulty balance in mind then your expectations are probably tempered enough

[sharp sable]

define tempered

[jade iron]

not overly wild or hopeful

not overhyped

[sharp sable]

Man I just want to play something comparable to the original R4E1, looking at people's runs for it it looks hard af

[sharp siren]

R4e1 still the same

[sharp sable]

is it

[sharp siren]

instead of just sitting your ass on a revo you sit your ass with a pr

[sharp sable]

didn't they make it easier or something like that

[jade iron]

I feel like broadly strong guns are here to stay, I wouldn't expect across-the-board nerfs at this point

[sharp siren]

revolver

[sharp sable]

ty

[sharp siren]

also you had the strongest gun in the entire games lifetime

[sharp sable]

burst cannon?

[sharp siren]

you had unnerfed hel revolver and burst canon with canceling

[sharp sable]

that fucking name alone radiates god-like power

[jade iron]

mostly I'd just hope they don't add something silly like r4 burst cannon or r6 sniper or whatever and just leave it OP forever

[sharp sable]

Burst Cannon

[sharp siren]

and infinite stamina

and occiputs

[sharp sable]

wait back of the head modifier was removed?

[sharp siren]

no the damage of hammer was 4 so it allowed to 1 tap strikers on the back of the head

[sharp sable]

you can still do that to shooters right

[sharp siren]

yep

[jade iron]

though I also wouldn't be surprised if 10cc are like "this is the end, let's kick our shoes off and have a fun time, flamethrower and explosive nades added"

[sharp siren]

you wish

they take this game too seriously

[sharp sable]

"Heavy duty excavation, ain't no finer thing."

Give me throwable c4 lmao

nitro charge type shit

[jade iron]

tbh I don't care anymore

[sharp siren]

i expected more unique stuff since things like that were not planned

[sharp sable]

I remember when my squad refused to start without someone having a sniper rifle, and sniped scouts because bitch ass

[sharp siren]

all we got was sentries

[sharp sable]

Tools are lost potential

Could have been cool stuff

(Mapper)

[jade iron]

I've been getting this vibe that 10cc has felt like they're not making the kind of game they enjoy for some time now

[sharp sable]

if the devs don't even like it is there any hope

[somber copper]

how so?

[sharp siren]

the honeymoon phase of developing gtfo its out the window

[jade iron]

and then they're dealing with hostile vets and lack of interest from new players

[jade iron]

it's a vibe, so it's kinda hard to explain

maybe I've watched too many dev streams, and I think they try to convey a specific vibe with those

[sharp sable]

GTFO R8
Title: "CYNOSURE"

-Added "://Prisoner_ Experience_ Protocol_
-Prisoners that deem themselves to have spent enough time in the complex may choose to grant themselves altered (weakened) weapons and biometric statistics.

[jade iron]

awkward for a coop multiplayer game where pubs are going to want every advantage they can get

[sharp sable]

I hate italics

[sharp sable]

host chooses ez clap

[jade iron]

also traditionally players take the strongest loadouts available, and expect the levels to provide the challenge

we could opt to do weak loadout challenges right now, there are certainly guns that have been left behind balance-wise

in practice people rarely bother with this

personally I don't like the idea of having to impose a bunch of arbitrary limits on my play, as a player I should be focused on finding the strongest possible tools and strategies within the confines set by 10cc

[sharp sable]

I just take shotgun and pistol if I want to get my ass beat

[jade iron]

wdym shotgun is strong

pistol isn't the worst either

[burnt flume]

I got a lot more fun from playing the original versions compared to the alts, though I did start doing that before the ALTs came out

fun to see how the game has changed, and how the original r1 felt like a proof of concept more than the gtfo we're used to

hey pistol shotgun is a fun loadout, don't diss it

[rose nova]

hey pistols nice :[

[jade iron]

the amount of duos where shotgun is the key

indispensable gun

[burnt flume]

hm, I'm not sure if shotgun is ever the key, I think for a lot of duos you could get away with whatever

it is great and versatile though

[rose nova]

i mean for minibosses tho it works pretty, well

like above average

[jade iron]

gun that gets great fight into waves, bigs, mommies, can be made to work into tanks

[rose nova]

shottie so flexible is bending like an iphone :3

[burnt flume]

the r4e1 duo with 2x hel revo + shotgun, groovy

[jade iron]

maybe it's skill issue but much of the time with duos in harder levels I feel like my special choices are the difference between success and failure

[burnt flume]

loadout choices are very important yeah, although I can't really fathom there being much of a difference in some circumstances

granted I've just been going through the old r4 missions duo so it's mostly burst cannon (especially for e1, not running choke mod/sniper/revolver for the run, wanna get the clear first probably)

[jade iron]

yeah but r4 burst cannon is an everything gun

[sharp sable]

bots when they get resources

[outer bear]

can you c foam mother with just 1 full charge of the launcher

[sharp owl]

one isnt enough

[outer bear]

thx

[sharp owl]

it was enough pre r6 as client

[dusk matrix]

Just finished R4C3 Cuernos and received 2 cosmetics, one of which was Twin Barrel Blade mk1. Friend got the same helmet. Is it normal? Am i missing some kind of a giveaway?

[pale slate]

What weapons are good against chargers? Had a mission earlier that was mostly chargers and it made me wonder how to deal with them without their weakspot

had a revolver and machinepistol

[junior latch]

hel gun (2 taps + pen)
Hel rifle (1 taps + pen)
Choke mod (1 taps if all pellets hit, tight spread)

[burnt flume]

Revolver is a bit notorious for being bad into chargers, for special weapons Hel Gun/Rifle should do you well, and Choke Mod is another premier pick

[pale slate]

hel guns make sense tbf

[burnt flume]

for main weapons idk they're all about the same probably

[pale slate]

I was trying out the revolver and didn't realise 90% of the enemies would be chargers

so I chewed through a lot of machinepistol ammo

[junior latch]

depends. Stagger and ease of kills (aswell as range) matter most here

hel revo is obviously great
Kills 2 straight, staggers each shot and can pen well

hel shotgun works wonders not as a kill option but to stagger. It actually becomes good to kill when its like 3+ at once tho

dmr is great (3 per mag, awesome range) and carbine works well aswell

machine pp kinda works? Its just super dependent on the range + shutting off the ammo drain

[wraith marsh]

hel shotgun kills them fine

its just as good as dmr if not a little better with 4 shots which is generous

[junior latch]

the issue is range and spread

hel shotgun obviously works

but you are often gonna be shooting it at a range where it wont do as much if you wanna use it to stop tounges

[burnt flume]

I always miss the 3rd or 4th shot which is funny, but that's more of a skill issue than a point of contention

[jade iron]

second hel revo into chargers

imo you can feel dmr's ammo pool a bit more when you bring it against chargers

[burnt flume]

if you hit the shots (no pen), 2 kills/mag, if you don't you stagger them anyway and can reload cancel to recover

[jade iron]

whereas hel revo has the extra ammo and potential for economy via pen

[junior latch]

it should actually be less :p since you dont waste any dmg at all

[jade iron]

the overspill is negligible, imo for almost all intents and purposes hel revo rounds are just dmr rounds with pen

[rough robin]

no idea, same thing happened to me

[jade iron]

the only sense in which I recognize hel revo getting more damage is in the fire rate/dps sense

[junior latch]

i wasnt talking hel revo

as both take the same amount of shots and hel revo just has more ammo

[jade iron]

ah I thought you meant "less than hel revo"

when you said "it should actually be less"

my bad

[jade iron]

actual answer now that I know what you mean: on paper dmr is one of the less efficient mains into chargers

though it easily gets its on paper efficiency obv.

[dusk matrix]

did you complete the same level? I wanna go hunting for this helmet with my gf

[rough robin]

i don't recall if it was cuernos or another one

I know it was a late r4 level

[jade iron]

on this, people have listed a bunch of options, but can't overemphasize how hel gun and hel rifle basically invalidate chargers

if revolver passed the 15 damage breakpoint it would also be pretty nasty into chargers, though hel gun would still edge it out due to pen taking advantage of the way chargers tend to clump up

the machine guns are also pretty good into chargers, due to the amount of damage they can output and the range they can do it at, backed up by getting a lot of ammo per refill

choke can be great or can get overwhelmed due to small clip and poor reload, really depends on situation and how many chargers you're dealing with

in many situations I'd rather fight chargers with veruta than choke

[lone wraith]

@noble badger @lone ledge @proper grotto sorry I gtg my pc is overheating lole

[analog flicker]

[lone ledge]

casually turns pc into the surface of the sun

[lone wraith]

My keyboard was sizzling my fingers

[serene falcon]

anyone need another GTFO player (Plz keep in mind i haven't played this game in almost 2 months)

[sharp siren]

something something #how-to-matchmake

[serene falcon]

yea i just saw that

ty ty

[latent oracle]

can anyone suggest a rundown level (preferably in r1 or r2 because that's all i've unlocked) for scout practice with sleepers? the scout mod seems to only have just scouts but i have the most trouble killing scouts when there are sleepers around it

[sharp siren]

r2c1 its a nice level

[wispy bluff]

Uhhhh.... R7B1? It will take a while to get there, but after the big room alarm there's a bunch of scouts in rooms with enemies and even some fog

But probably a better option out there somewhere, i no longer capable of recalling majority of GTFO's levels

[latent oracle]

i remember r2c1 having an early scout before the alarm door so i'll try that! thanks :D

[sharp siren]

another good level r4b2 if you have it avalible

just do the main path and theres some scouts

[serene falcon]

are we talking solo'ing or w/ a group?

[sharp siren]

wichever

[jade iron]

maybe r7c1

can immediately go and crack open the zone that has the fog lowering terminal

which has scouts intermingled with plenty of other enemies

might be rough for solo practice if you want to clear entire rooms though, on account of a lot of those other enemies being bigs

oh r7d1 overload room

actually

preferably in r1 or r2 because that's all i've unlocked
just noticed this, my bad

r3a1 key rooms aren't bad practice, could just clear the first alarm with bots

[hollow tendon]

The scout mod has a level mixing scouts & enemies

It's the last one iirc

Other than that, R4A3

1 scout in the first bulk key zone

2 scouts in ext

R5E1 as well

First zone has a scout with enemies

[latent oracle]

any tips for killing scouts with sleepers around?

[hollow tendon]

Never running would be the base tip

If you're aware of the timing, you can walk (not crouch) towards the scout, kill it and eventually kill the nearby sleeper(s) if it/they woke up

Whenever you make a "normal" noise (as in noise that won't instantly trigger the sleeper, like running or shooting), the sleepers have a set time in which they start waking up

Which, if you time right, allows you to reach the scout and kill it before the enemy wakes up

If you want the scouts to stop moving but you can't run, you can also use your flashlight on them

After some point they'll pretty much stop moving and spam tentacles

I don't know if you've seen all the scout variants (including the one in R3D1), but if you did you can check this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QcHWd-FtX4

https://youtu.be/4QcHWd-FtX4?t=177 this timestamp for the flashlight

[analog flicker]

loads sniper with religious intent

proceed to unalive the scout

[latent oracle]

i would sniper the scout if i could 😭 my group is currently stuck in r2d2 and the multi scout room has been an issue for me (as the dedicated scout killer)

[analog flicker]

I see

Well

Practice makes perfect

Spear of course being the easiest to melee it.

I hardly remember my R2D2 run ngl

I hear of this multi scout area

But I can't remember it that well.

Me and another guy just kinda went Monkey in stealth areas/etc

Our 4th. Well he was desync'd to shit so he kept leaving and joining back hoping to refresh his game.

[lethal sparrow]

heehee, they said r2d2

[lone wraith]

heheheheeh I get tha t reference eheheheheh

I think I have brain damage

[trim sail]

what's the issue specifically ?

[last parrot]

thats the perfect way of teaching people to melee scouts

punish them for doing wrong

[pine root]

They already taught you to melee scouts btw

[last parrot]

as in to do it more efficiently

[latent oracle]

for room 197 (2 scouts), i find it hard to kill them because of the surrounding sleeper/giants so our group ended up sniping the 1st scout and letting the 2nd scout trigger. ideally i would like to kill one stealthy or idk just find the code and get out. for room 195, i think its more of making simple mistakes. sometimes the scout would move last second, changing the hitbox from the head to maybe the shoulder or i would rush to kill scouts because of the decreasing timer and not pay attention to being more stealthy and triggering sleepers and then alerting scouts

[unborn quiver]

Yeah, the hitbox changing is rough, but it just takes practice.

[trim sail]

seems like there's a time management issue here

you said your problem, for room 197, was hard to kill scouts of the surrounding. But did your team ever think of going together in the same direction, try to provide cover for you while killing the scout ?

[hollow tendon]

His issue is not being able to handle scouts when there are sleepers around

I don't think it has to do with time management

On the scout zone you have a lot more time than you think to clear them

By doing it "normally" you'd have at least 3 min left

[latent oracle]

my team is all scared of scouts so they end up being outside until i clear the room a bit 😂 also we have a lot of straggler issues after wave ends so they stay back to make sure no mobs make it to 195 cus it happened once and it triggered the room

yeah we usually end up having 3 mins left

it just feels like not a lot because of having to go through all the scouts

[unborn quiver]

It sounds like the best thing you can do is get the rest of your team to feel a little bit more confident about dealing with scouts

There are a lot of weapons that can one-tap them that aren't melee weapons (and frankly they should be running melee weapons that can one-tap scouts anyway) so there's no reason that you should be clearing a room at 1/4 manpower

[latent oracle]

thats true, like maybe they can go into position for the other scouts and use guns to kill them all at once if possible

[unborn quiver]

Or even just clear out chaff around the scouts if they're not confident in dealing with them themselves. But yeah, one-tapping the scouts together with firearms is totally a strat you could go with if you wanted to remove the risk of messing up the melee hits

[normal lake]

learning to melee scouts is essential the further you get into the game

shouldnt have a dedicated scout killer everyone should be able to if needed

[trim sail]

this

is the most crucial point

that every player in this game must realize

[latent oracle]

my friends aren't that committed to the game so its hard to suggest them to go grind some scout killing practice

[normal lake]

just refuse to do it

[trim sail]

i would be honest with you. No pain, no gain

[normal lake]

it only takes 2-3 fails at a scout to learn to melee after that its pretty consistent

[latent oracle]

i can scout melee kill just fine (as long as the scout doesn't make any last second movements lol) but when theres a timer ticking down + sleepers around, i get more panicky

[normal lake]

its a matter of practicing and getting better at handling pressure

[latent oracle]

yeah the pressure is too real in r2d2 😩 😩 😩

[unborn quiver]

Honestly I get this. The "optimal" advice is to get them to practice, but realistically even if you can just get them to clear chaff and give you a clear path to whack each scout, that's good too

[normal lake]

the biggest recommendation i can give to practicing scouts is to just never shoot or cfoam scouts until you know you can melee almost every time

and if someone in your group cant do it when you see a scout just make them kill it

failing a scout shouldnt be seen as a big deal people fuck em up and you gotta be comfortable enough to fuck up

[unborn quiver]

Yeah but I get what Toast is saying, which is that if you have friends who aren't as invested in the game they're likely to just lose interest if they are forced to try and kill scouts and end up throwing the mission as a result

Like yeah they should just learn to kill scouts in melee but you gotta work with what you have

[normal lake]

honestly if you cant be assed to learn a game then why are you playing it

failing a scout is going to happen the first few times but its literally part of learning and enjoying the game

[unborn quiver]

I think there's a difference between being generally good at the game and not at every nuance of it

but GTFO is definitely a game with lots of hurdles, so even if it's not scouts today, it'll be mothers tomorrow, etc.

[hollow tendon]

In the case of toast, they shouldn't be worried about struggling with/triggering scouts, especially when they're new players

[normal lake]

exactly

setting of scouts is just part of learning

just like waking up sleepers

[hollow tendon]

Now if it's someone with 10 times Toast's playtime who can't still handle scout... that's another story 😳

[trim sail]

refund the game... ?

[unborn quiver]

Also it certainly depends on the map, but I find that most of the time you can fuck up on a LOT of scout kills and still be fine, as long as you have a good loadout and you can aim well

[hollow tendon]

You can refund it after 2h of playtime ?

I'd gladly tell these people to refund it

[trim sail]

wish i could...

[normal lake]

go into c and d tier maps unable to melee a scout and you will really start to struggle the moment rooms with multiple scouts or a lot of sleepers and scouts start to become common

[hollow tendon]

It's all about strategy anyway

Some missions are comically easy when you have proper strats

which you figure out by dying and trying or by asking someone who had done that before

[unborn quiver]

Yeah, on R3D1 I just pulled the CScouts since I couldn't solo clear the rooms in stealth otherwise

and that works fine for that particular mission

[hollow tendon]

It's simpler to do that sometimes

Because the resources are abundant

on R4D2 the map is piss easy with a foam launcher

[unborn quiver]

Random aside, but hilariously I doorbugged one of the scouts, realized I didn't get a killshot on it with the sniper, and only when I opened the door again did it "realize" it had been shot and screamed

[normal lake]

gtfo moment

[unborn quiver]

Where are the logs that show the deep lore behind the magic rolling doors

[dull moon]

Our team's bots aren't going into the circle, they seemed to be bugged

Is this a known issue and if so is there a fix?

[visual jungle]

have had this issue before but idk if it's known by devs

If it's just a normal scan with no alarm and screaming monsters I'd just wait a little bit to see if they get their shit together

[dull moon]

We've been trying for a while, and it is a constant alarm on R7C1

[visual jungle]

But if you need them in the scan now and they aren't budging I kick them out of the team

And add them back in later

[dull moon]

Well that worked but now we're about to die 💀

[true pilot]

this often happens if you have more than one scan active at the same time

[dull moon]

Yeah really unfortunate, bots glitched out on us and the my teammate started lagging as well

[true pilot]

R7C1 is a scuffed level

[visual jungle]

"hey guys schaeffer here with another gtfo level today we'll be unleashing the snatcher on these foolish prisoners"

[true pilot]

”hey guys, this is the warden speaking, today we will watch as this lovely team of prisoners crashes for no reason and has to restart the level”

[analog flicker]

[thick temple]

i don't think i've ever seen someone crash on r7c1 lol

i think that's more common on d1

[true pilot]

i have

like most of my runs on it

either i crashed or host crashed

[analog flicker]

weird

R7D1 isn't fixed either technically

[true pilot]

maybe they just made it so you get used to levels being scuffed in C1 so in D1 you already expect it

[analog flicker]

C1 isn't really that scuffed.

[thick temple]

c1 has never been scuffed for me idk what's up with yours

[true pilot]

thats just g r e a t

also while we are at it

[thick temple]

out of all the issues i've seen people have with c1 technical issues are not really among them

[analog flicker]

However. R7C1 is a weird design choice imo in terms of difficulty

When it comes to newcomers

[thick temple]

just sharp difficulty

[analog flicker]

[true pilot]

is it normal for snatchers after trying to grab someone just stare at you while standing still?

[analog flicker]

Depends where they drop you

Could be the spot they run away to then run back to snatch again

[true pilot]

when i was playing R7C1 recently we were holding next to the door to forward extract and some snatchers after trying to/grabbing someone would just stand still staring at us

[visual jungle]

wtf

playing r5b4 rn

B level my ass

[jade iron]

tbh I was shocked at how much easier r5b4 felt now in the alt rerelease, vs my memory of back in the day

[vestal crystal]

its just as easy/boring in the og

[jade iron]

yeah I suspect my crew was just bad

we duo'd it second try this time around, and the first try was just fucking around

I'm guessing it's just a difficult kind of level for new players

you're notionally in combat for 30mins, and if you're only used to slow stealth then you're going to have a hard time

[analog flicker]

Aggressive stealth in gtfo be like

4 prisoners

Sprinting around Bonking everything

[jade iron]

ya, and new crews don't do that yet

[analog flicker]

Yet. Yes

[visual jungle]

just caught us off guard

[jade iron]

imo every other B level in r5 is harder

for what it's worth

[wraith marsh]

I mean you can just shoot everything

dont even need to fast stealth on b4

[jade iron]

hm, come to think of it I watched some 4man attempts at b4 by some community regulars recently that trainwrecked

[wraith marsh]

I agree

[visual jungle]

you counting sec and overload in that assessment?

[jade iron]

hm, b2 might need optionals to get there

b1 and b3 I think are harder with just mains

[wraith marsh]

b3 main isnt really that bad tbh

only highlights of main are the last scan which can get dicey and the fog dive

[jade iron]

I'd still pay it over b4 difficulty-wise

[wraith marsh]

b1 main is also kinda ok

if you can shoot 2 bbcs its fine, theres not really much else hard and its short af

personally id put b4 slightly above all the other main only Bs

but yeah with optionals its the easiest

[jade iron]

I guess when we went through the duos b4 kinda fell to our near-worst performance

I got to see a bunch of b3 because multi-tank arena in secondary gave us some issues

my sense is that the main can get pretty gnarly

b1 main was fine, but I remember back in my OG r5 noob days that the bbcs could ruin our day

I don't know, it's hard to put yourself back into the shoes of someone who's starting out sometimes

[signal plaza]

fog dive with that error used to be SCARY for me

[wraith marsh]

the error is just so far between and its not even that many enemies

you can play the entire level super safe if you just go slow

which only leaves the last scan

which new players probably arent doing the stupid funnel

[jade iron]

yeah holding 6 chargers in the fog dive while surrounded by sleepers that you're slow-killing because you're a noob, as well as potentially a scout somewhere, seems rough for noobs

[signal plaza]

exactly

and the chargers spawn inside the fog zone as well if you’re not actively blocking it

[wraith marsh]

step 1

bring a mine deployer

[signal plaza]

new players aren’t clearing that fog zone within the time between waves

[jade iron]

I don't get the impression that fog spawns are particularly blockable in b3

[signal plaza]

you suggesting they know how to pull rooms?

[wraith marsh]

not even that

[signal plaza]

you could make them spawn only from EG A

[wraith marsh]

tho that is a good strat if you dont want to bother

[signal plaza]

or something

[wraith marsh]

I know new players arent doing that

[signal plaza]

where you’ve already cleared it

[wraith marsh]

I really feel like usage of mine deployer is one of the main things new players need to learn

[signal plaza]

here! me!

you use mine to kill waves of enemies

[wraith marsh]

the thought just isnt there to use it at all from what I see

theres no "fuck thats a lot, lets just go back and mine the door"

[signal plaza]

I use mine to face it our way during the door team scan for dramatic suspense

[wraith marsh]

its just "fuck thats a lot"

[signal plaza]

we are not the same

[signal plaza]

yea and they try to stealth and either die because their bio player can’t ping the fog enemies or they die because they take too long/too much ammo to clear and then they wipe to chargers

actually

you don’t have a lot of time

there’s very little ammo in the level

[jade iron]

I guess also keep in mind that the zone full of bigs before extract gives noobs trouble

[signal plaza]

yeah and they don’t get ammo for it

[jade iron]

the whole huddling behind a single big and hitting simultaneously thing

[signal plaza]

there’s like 12 uses of ammo between start and extract

if you open the second fog dive zone 16

that’s not a lot

[signal plaza]

been there done that

[normal lake]

the only difference between fog stealth and normal stealth is i cant see, i still wake everything up because im sprinting around like a mad man with a mallet

[signal plaza]

you take infection tho

[normal lake]

nothing changes

[sharp owl]

[normal lake]

im a lazy pos and using fog repellers is way to high of effort

just go bonk bonk and you win

hp is for nerds anyways

[sharp owl]

Good strat Can confirm

[normal lake]

if you have a bot you can do fog fishing as i call it where one man runs into the fog while everyone chills above it and if the fisherman dies just send the bot in after killing what is awake

anything to avoid actually playing the game the way its intended, if the intended way was fun id be down to do it that way tho

[sharp owl]

Bot fishin

Never thought bout that

[normal lake]

bots dont take infection and you can tell a bot to get on me while you are down

rest is pretty self explanatory

its prob saved me hours of time submerged in fog at this point

[visual jungle]

Sounds like a great idea but my friend would lecture me for taking unnecessary risks

[normal lake]

smart friend but tbh if you dont have a carryable turbine its probably the safer option anyways

its also extremely boring for any player not submerged in fog cus they just gotta wait for you to die to even do anything

[sharp owl]

You will end up at 20 health AT some point

So why not take thé risk

Save meds for alarm and WE cool

[normal lake]

the whole idea behind the strat is to save as much hp and infection as possible by piling it onto one player

and since im on 20% hp most of the time anyways it doesnt really hurt that much for me to just take the plunge

[visual jungle]

I'm pretty safe myself just doing it when necessary

[normal lake]

its a boring but consistent strat

i hate levels where you have to dive into infection fog without a carrayable turbine and thank god they are not super common

[normal lake]

im on 20% hp because i refuse healing no matter what and because i play very aggressively to speed up the levels

[visual jungle]

Yea the moment I hit 20% its yolo time

[normal lake]

i dont see a room with 20 sleepers 5 of which are giants as a slow down and take your time room i see it as a challenge to see how quick i can clear it

which almost always results in me losing most of my hp

[sharp owl]

I see a nice large door that im going to pull

[normal lake]

we had a excess of ammo on one of the maps we played today and i was running sniper

[sharp owl]

Does alarm with a broken door

Worth it

[normal lake]

i had 100% and we came up on a room filled with fuckin giants and big shooters

i just fuckin started blasting

prob got 15 headshots within 3 minutes

didnt say a word to my 2 mates who where playing with me

it was a mutual understanding when they heard the gunshots to not get infront of me

[sharp owl]

But thats not a gamer moment

[normal lake]

it was cus i had like 80% on my main which i think was hel revo and 100% on sniper

like 6 excess uses of ammo to top it off

no fuckin clue how the fuck you ran out of ammo on that map

i think it was r4c2?

[sharp owl]

Which zone had Giants cuz i didnt check all main zones

[visual jungle]

I dont remember any rooms with giants for that

[normal lake]

maybe c3

[sharp owl]

There 2 or 3 zones i didnt Bother checking

[normal lake]

it had to be c2 or c3 cus it sure as hell wasnt c1

and i dont think we did a b tier map today

[visual jungle]

c3 was giant chargers

[normal lake]

yeah i remember it was c2

my friend ran sniper for c1 and i ran sniper after him for shits and giggles for c2

[sharp owl]

I dont remember much of r4

Except C3 and d2

[normal lake]

ima be real i dont either and im literally actively playing it

[sharp owl]

They gave me most of the trouble

[visual jungle]

Only remember c3 because I shot a scout when there was a giant charger right next to me

[normal lake]

we failed c3 like 25% into it because of a class 3M alarm in some fog and decided to jump into a different game since our current session was like 4 hours long

[sharp owl]

Now do it After overload

[normal lake]

miscalculated the difficulty of bots dying then a team scan which caused a wipe that was easily avoidable

[visual jungle]

Not touching overload

[sharp owl]

You dont need to do more than 3 alarms i think?

[sharp owl]

But its fun-ny

[visual jungle]

I dont have time tho

[sharp owl]

[visual jungle]

I tried PE once

[normal lake]

kek ill get into pe later when i have a party of humans not robots that struggle with the most basic times

[sharp owl]

Baby sitting bots Never gets old

[visual jungle]

Almost made it

But took so long

Maybe not so nice with bots

[sharp owl]

2 bots 2 players IS much easier than 3 bots

[visual jungle]

Will do again if I matchmake in this server

[normal lake]

even easier 3 players 1 bot

[sharp owl]

Eugh...humans

[normal lake]

i consider a single bot with biotracker to be equivalent to a single human player but every bot after that is a fucking pain

[sharp owl]

Bots become good when you are decent and also patient

[normal lake]

you see im half of that

im decent but extremely inpatient

[sharp owl]

Something to Iron out

[normal lake]

ill be patient for a few levels with a new human player because humans improve and grow

a bot will always be shit

[visual jungle]

my biggest frustration is just bots not responding to events

Not responding correctly*

• they like to phase through doors so waking a room and mining a door can suck

[sharp owl]

And then they proceed to eliminate thé entire room

[normal lake]

its also really annoying how some enemies fucking ignore bots and prioritize players

3 bots with a snatcher takes a pretty small threat like a snatcher and basically turns it into a potential wipe if you get got

that and bots are worthless against them

same goes for tanks and mothers

cant even have a bot cfoam a scout and def not kill one

just so much they cannot do that a player can

[sharp owl]

Bots are consistent with snatchers AT least for me

[visual jungle]

yea hence a duo w/bots can make life much better

[normal lake]

bots ive seen attack them occassionally but your basically on your own if you plan on staggering them

[sharp owl]

I usually just dodge then have AT them

[sharp owl]

Playing with 3 bots helped me improve a lot in thé game
Taking every initiative and risk by myself

[bright sail]

Hi

[sharp owl]

Hi

[normal lake]

ive always played in the leadership position as the one fastest on the terminals and usually the one who knows what is going on and the best way to approach stuff

just kinda happened with my group where i some how got put in the position

[visual jungle]

3 bots is definitely a good learning experience

Can learn a lot of mechanics and strategies

[normal lake]

id prob say the best way to learn without being carried is absolutely with 3 bots rather than 3 other new players

[sharp owl]

Sometimes its good to let someone do that and go dark elsewhere while team is doing something

[normal lake]

but they will hold you back in some levels

[normal lake]

i do a lot and one of my mates is always the guy who takes over

[sharp owl]

A-b tiers
Anything After that is pure skill

[sharp owl]

I prolly wouldnt be as good as im rn if i didnt grind bots

[normal lake]

im still a awful shot but thats just cus gtfo is the only shooter i play

beyond that id say im actually pretty good at the game at this point but still not confident in my abilities

[visual jungle]

Can reasonably do a few C levels

[sharp owl]

Same here but with hours of using most of thé ammo u get good Real quick

[sharp owl]

I consider optionals as well so unless youre good itll bé a brick wall

[normal lake]

yeah id say most pe are def harder than the mains of the tiers bellow the excluding e tier

cough cough r7c2 cough cough

[sharp owl]

R7c2 pe is easier with bots than humans

Or im just too good

[normal lake]

your prob right fog moment right there

[sharp owl]

Or thé bots are good and i just suck

[normal lake]

seriously tho that fucking overload is so much harder than anything in d1 or d2

secondary is so chill and relaxed but overload aint messin around

[sharp owl]

I need to do it thé intended way AT some point

Now that im more expérienced with error alarms

[normal lake]

actually i take it back a room with multiple charger scouts and giant chargers doesnt fuck around

[sharp owl]

And an error on top of it

[normal lake]

yeah

[sharp owl]

And fog and class 6 cluster flyer alarm

[normal lake]

so far of what ive played it probably the hardest optional objective ive partially finished

ive never actually cleared it because its just way to fucking rough

[sharp owl]

I Wonder what people think is thé hardest secondary or overload

[normal lake]

of the overloads ive played its def the hardest

[sharp owl]

For me i think r6d3 is my biggest enemy

[normal lake]

i cant really say for secondary i have no clue what id say it is

the only secondary that really stands out to me is r7c3 secondary but thats just because meleeing invis giants is really fuckin hard but it can be basically entirely ignored with good stealth

[sharp owl]

Dont think ive had any hard times with secondary

Well you have more than enough foam to clear all of secondary

[normal lake]

other than that i actually dont think any secondary has really been difficult most honestly make the levels easier by providing resources

[sharp owl]

I think r5c2 sec IS thé hardest

[normal lake]

never done it so i cant speak

i do remember quitting that level because bots refusing to do S scans was pissing me off

[sharp owl]

Then i wont spoil it for ya

[sharp owl]

I rarely have Bot malfunctioning

Last Time i had that was r6d2 error alarm

[normal lake]

i was already at my breaking point by r5c2 because it had happened every level that day up to that point

[sharp owl]

Were you hosting or someone else

[normal lake]

maybe its just my luck but i literally cannot get bots to function the moment there is a S scan

[sharp owl]

Also was there a Steam maintenance

[normal lake]

someone else but host should hardly matter

it was like this multiple days in a row

that and it was saturday

[sharp owl]

Never Seen it happen this much

[normal lake]

we stopped doing r5 because of it

[sharp owl]

U tried being the Host?

[normal lake]

not possible

when im host my other mate gets unbareable lag for no reason at all

i have faster and more stable internet but the game is just laggy as shit

[sharp owl]

Oof

[normal lake]

never could figure out what it is

we live within walking distance of eachother so its not ping

[sharp owl]

Thats weird

[normal lake]

yeah its a weird issue ive had for a long time

my best guess it the fact im on a 50 ft ethernet cable and his is like 3 ft

[visual jungle]

really doubt ethernet cable length matters there

[normal lake]

its the only factor that makes any sense at this point

[vestal crystal]

TFW the bot grabs the cfoam trip mine and holds onto it like its life depends on it

[sharp owl]

Keeping it for when it really matters

[vestal crystal]

would have made pmom a lot smoother

[sharp owl]

R5d1?

[vestal crystal]

Yessir

That and R2E1 are the only maps I've tried full bot squad

[sharp owl]

R2e1 is thé 3rd hardest lvl to do with bots

[normal lake]

fuckin gotta love bots and there priorities that make basically no sense

the damn disinfection pack is not more valuable than the ammo pack when we aint even seen infect fog yet bro just leave it

[sharp owl]

Med
Ammo
Tool
Disinfect

[normal lake]

i hate the fact they prioritize med so fuckin much

[sharp owl]

You def dont want bots go pick up disinfect

[normal lake]

it is the one thing i dont want them to have over anything else

[sharp owl]

Yeah i wish they let us command em to pick up whats needed

[vestal crystal]

It was not nearly as bad as I thought

They hold their own during the error

[normal lake]

or just command them to not use the shit

[sharp owl]

There is a way to do it but if requires a mod

[normal lake]

i dont need med when the next 25 rooms are just entirely stealth

but i will need that at the next alarm

[sharp owl]

Once youre past thé surge you are in safe grounds

[normal lake]

give it to me now and im prob gonna lose it to some desync jank or just being shit

[vestal crystal]

I used triple burst sentry bio so the surge was not bad at all

[normal lake]

ayyy thats my usual kit

[sharp owl]

Thats one way to do it
How were thé previous surges with no foam

[vestal crystal]

Just protect the bots so they don't go down and they shoot fine

[normal lake]

bots are great at shooting players

[vestal crystal]

First surge can be rough if you get bottom of the ladder scan but second was fine. I had sniper, tunnel room scan is trivialized by 2 bursts

[sharp owl]

Or all thé foam that u hold thé surge till thé next alarm and do that with no ammo expenses

[vestal crystal]

Foaming ladders is cringe

[sharp owl]

True but ill take any thing that helps me compensate for Bots

[vestal crystal]

And having 3 sentries helps a lot more in the last 2 surges than foam does

[sharp owl]

Thats true

[vestal crystal]

And that's more of the peak hurdle imo than the tunnel scan

[sharp owl]

I used 2 shotgun sentries they did a good job when funneling

[sharp owl]

Thats thé dealbreaker for that lvl

Once done youre almost guaranteed a win

[vestal crystal]

Although bots for the last zone did better than a lot of lfg groups where I have to singlehandedly save doors, find resources, ping cell, and carry cell + baby to door all alone

At least bots shoot

[sharp owl]

Did u go for forward cell for thé surge?

Also in my run i had almost touched extract until i remembered that i needed to get baby which i forgot by thé surge door

[normal lake]

stop please dont say those words you are giving me ptsd

good god i do not wanna think about the time my team wiped because someone ran to extract to early

[sharp owl]

💀

Good stuff

[normal lake]

in fairness they didnt know a alarm would start when they got there

but i did say out loud "dont go to the extraction spot yet just in case it starts a error"

[sharp owl]

I didnt Know either until i got baby in scan

[normal lake]

low and behold a error alarm started before we could finish the levels ovl

[sharp owl]

And i had been trying r2e1 for a while then

[vestal crystal]

Yeah I normally ping cell in that zone

And I got to the fog surge room before I realized that bots drop items in combat and it was just me with the turbine lol

[sharp owl]

Thats good saves Time than bringing one in

[sharp owl]

Oof 💀

Bots will Never drop turbine regardless of combat

So give em that

Make sure you Never have thé turbine bot with any type of pack

[normal lake]

i dont have the same fire i used to have that drives me to retry levels

when i fail a level i either move on or call it a night

try again in a week or two

[sharp owl]

Cuz they will drop just to give whatever and Never pick it up

[sharp owl]

Same for long lvls

R7c3 is kicking my ass

[normal lake]

i used to be able to just go on a level for 4 hours straight if it was what it took

r7c3 with bots is a joke

cant believe you are willing to do that

the main and secondary are bad enough the overload is just a really bad match

[sharp owl]

I did everything but i had forgotten about thé tank when timer hits 0 so spent more Time trying to kill him with pdw and veruta and gave up there

Ovl with bots is thé easiet part

Next Time ill bring sniper

[normal lake]

idk i guess its just a matter of i dont really have a hard time with meleeing large groups of giants

[sharp owl]

And ill finish thé job this Time

Have thé most amount of tries with r7c3 so its not a Big deal

[normal lake]

actually the same here but thats mostly cus me and my friend fuckin love the level

sprinting through trying to clear the melee rooms as quickly as possible for "fun" as a duo

[sharp owl]

2nd ovl uplink Can bé easy or straight up bullshit

[normal lake]

yeah our only attempt at the ovl was on the bullshit side

[sharp owl]

Bots perform well with melee

[normal lake]

so we just quit and called it a night cus not gonna bother checkpoint cheesing

[normal lake]

bots are problematic at the speeds me and my friend are tryna go

[sharp owl]

Checkpoint makes bot lose ammo and tool

[normal lake]

more often then not they fuck up the loop or stand inside a giant and make them melee rather than range attack

[sharp owl]

I suggest you lfg then they drag back pretty hard

[normal lake]

nah straight duo

its the real way

melee the charger scout as a duo in second room is probably the hardest part

refusal to use cfoam is probably one of the main reasons beating that level took us so damn long

[sharp owl]

Just cfoam

[normal lake]

no its less fun that way

[sharp owl]

Well enjoy getting a wave then with bots

Its def a good experience

[normal lake]

me and my friend cleared out the scout room at the beginning of r7d2 twice melee only

we are pretty consistent with charger scouts

[sharp owl]

🧐

[normal lake]

just gotta have good sync and trust in your partner when meleeing

nothing quite as satisfying as unplanned charger scout kills tho

its happened a couple of times where we have opened doors then both of us full sprint into a room and melee the charger scout at the same time

without really cordinating or saying anything

[sharp owl]

Ill Never Know what it feels like

[normal lake]

very sad indeed

[sharp owl]

😔

[normal lake]

the curse of no bitches and no bros

truly a man after my own heart

[sharp owl]

There is no salvation

[normal lake]

could be worse, your not a discord or reddit moderator

that and your not a furry

[sharp owl]

You Know what
Its true
Never thought bout it that way

[normal lake]

better to be alone instead of forever alone

[balmy gorge]

is R2A1 harder than R1A1 ?

[rose nova]

a bit

id say they are about the same but, there are some parts which are a bit harder

[little ridge]

Debatable, but I'll mention that ||R2A1 has an optional alarm since you only need one of the two zones||

[analog flicker]

If it's a newbie 4 man group. R2A1 would be harder imo

[little ridge]

While R1A1 you dont really need to query anything

[elfin osprey]

hmm, they both have 2 scouts, they both have 2 alarm door thats easy to deal with(techniclly in r1a1 you can scout skip), they both have giants

i would prefer to bring new players to r2a1 though bc its easier to teach them stuff

its easier to teach them how to query with terminal

maybe r2a1 is a bit harder bc the second alarm is 1 cant close door+1 closeable door=2 path enemy could come from

r1a1 second alarm is just 1 door that they would always come to, assume that the side room doors isnt broken, but at the same time, things can be fix with a mines

also, i think that r1a1 has alot of enemy after the second alarm

[little ridge]

R1A1 alarms are cheesable with foam

Which also applies to R2A1's if they all spawn at extraction but whatever

I feel like it's a bit of the same in difficulty tbh

[rose nova]

also r2a1 doesnt have resource room

[analog flicker]

You could just foam all 3 doors if you don't get Zone 4

Well 4 doors

[analog flicker]

In terms of how the alarms go. R1A1 needs it since you have a lot more to deal with after the class 2

Vs r2a1 just being a scout and some sleepers.

R1a1 being 2 scouts and several rooms that have sleepers here and there.

I say this in the sense of what newcomers have to deal with though.

And I imagine they would've gotten the gist of cfoam and mine.

(They're likely to overfoam though if they got Zone 5 in r2a1)

[sharp owl]

is r4d1 a reactor startup?

[analog flicker]

Next to R1A1 rooms after the class 4 have quite a few giants here and there.

[little ridge]

yes

[sharp owl]

aw shucks

[true pilot]

its a pretty fun reactor mission tbf

[sharp owl]

not when playing with bots

no reactor is fun

with them

also

[true pilot]

oh yeah then no

[sharp owl]

why is r5c1 a d-tier mission

[true pilot]

its not

its really not that bad

[sharp owl]

disguised as a c-tier

two Sustain scans

[true pilot]

R5D1 is so much harder my guy

what

[sharp owl]

a room full of giants

[true pilot]

are you doing optionals?

[sharp owl]

no

[true pilot]

there were S alarms in R5C1?

i remember a bunch of stealth scans

oh

right first door

and then the far door

[sharp owl]

iirc theres one sustain scan at the start, then you need to proceed into the next zone, with an another S alarm

[true pilot]

right

its not the very next zone

the second S scan is quite far actually

[sharp owl]

which one's the easiest for playing w/ bots

R2D1

R3D1

R4C3/D1

R5C1

or

R7C1

[true pilot]

R4C3

main only

R7C1 is very ahrd

R2D1 is hard but more annoying than impossible

R3D1 would be quite hard

[sharp owl]

what do you mean a resource?

[true pilot]

R5D1 is prolly impossible

[true pilot]

um what

[sharp owl]

wrong reply

i mean to reply to R7C1

you're a good resource klas

[true pilot]

oh that

flirting

[sharp owl]

whudda you mean a resours

[true pilot]

nobody calls themselves a fuckin hacker

[knotty bobcat]

Was the PDW the 'best' out of the SMG types?

[sharp owl]

yes

only downside is recoil

[knotty bobcat]

Better than the Machine Pistol? :d

[sharp owl]

that can be hard to control

[sharp owl]

better than the gtfo pistol

machine pistol gtfo's enemies out of your face

[rose nova]

yeah pdw is pretty, up there

think it has the highest dmg

and a pretty short reload

... i still like my machinep more

:3

[knotty bobcat]

Machine Pistol is fun, i've tried it, but I wanna see if the PDW has some merit.

Just not sure how accurate I'd be with the recoil and weird ass thermal scope

[rose nova]

it may b funky recoil ads but it has very good... how it called qwq

um

not aiming?

[thick epoch]

what do u guys think about the sawed gun?

[rose nova]

shoulder... somethin?

[thick epoch]

as main gun

[rose nova]

AA

forgot

[thick epoch]

pdw is fun but recoil is no fun :”)

[rose nova]

its funny, very funny tbh, but pretty ok apart from that, just kinda theres

also i swear the recoild ads is bad but the other one is not qwq HOW IS IT CALLED

[thick epoch]

having two shotguns as ur main and secondary

also the hanaway gun, the riffle gun, how to handle its recoil

[sharp owl]

hipfire?

[rose nova]

HIPFIRE

THANK U

PDW HAS VERY GOOD HIPFIRE

qwq

[thick epoch]

whats a hipfire

[rose nova]

um theres two, double tap and dmr

[sharp owl]

dum dum 🤣

[rose nova]

when u dont aim with the sight, and just shoot it as is

[sharp owl]

not aiming down the sights

[rose nova]

qwq noo i just forgot

[thick epoch]

ahh so that is hipfire.

[rose nova]

yes :3

[thick epoch]

i kinda like the carbine gun

combo with chokemod

so i wanna know is burst sentry has higher damage then auto sentry?

[rose nova]

yes

lots

auto sentry is not made to do dmg, but stagger enemies

it has high stagger values only

[thick epoch]

stagger as stunned them?

[rose nova]

yeah, as they fall like backwards, like when u shove with ur melee weapon a smol enemy

or do a full charge hit to a big guy

[thick epoch]

ahhhh i got it!

so how many mines should i use for giants

two i think?

[rose nova]

mines do 50 dmg, and bigs have 120, so u would need 3 to oneshot em
usually id just put one and finish em with ur gun, unless u got mines to spare

[thick epoch]

usually i just use sniper to one shot giant

[rose nova]

fairs, more reason to just like mine doors for smol enemies kdmkm
i usually have shotguns so if i have to spare, i put one mine high so only bigs can activate it, and then i just finish em off

but depends, on R7C1 i did used to put a ton of mines for a certain part

[wispy bluff]

Not that it matters, they're immune

[rose nova]

to mines?

[wispy bluff]

Most likely

[rose nova]

im pretty sure thats not true

[wispy bluff]

Considering what it takes to damage them with guns - I assume the mines just get armor'd

[chilly tusk]

They are not immune to mines

[rose nova]

ill prove this ill just, go into a lvl and put 3 mines and if they die

well

they die

:b

[true pilot]

bigs arent immune

i saw them go with missing body parts after an explosion

[rose nova]

yeah no it died on three mines

[little ridge]

I'm curious

Really curious, Artek

Why'd you think that bigs are immune to mines?

[sharp owl]

this is an artek moment of all time

[azure dock]

Mines > any enemy

[latent palm]

They have more mass

[true pilot]

yeah i dont think there is any enemy immune to mines

other than pablo ofc

[latent palm]

Mines are especially explosives

[little ridge]

Cue the Australian guy today that kept pestering a dude to place 2 mines on blood doors

[latent palm]

Yeah

Cant be too sure right?

Right?

[true pilot]

it must have been incase a small one somehow lived!

[little ridge]

He just kept going on

"No, you need two mines."

[azure dock]

2? That’s too little, you need 13

[true pilot]

For what exactly?

[little ridge]

Luckly I was sentry so I didnt care

but for fuck's sake

[true pilot]

you can place 2 mines if you dont wanna deal with hybrids

but like

[latent palm]

Same

[true pilot]

you can just shoot em

[little ridge]

That really depends

We opened one door

[latent palm]

Small blood doors with 2 mines is gud

But big with 2?

I don’t really see a reason

[little ridge]

mine below blew up, hybrids stumbled away, mine above blew up with a total of 1 shooter

hybrids lived

I've no idea if 2 mines kill an hybrid but I doubt that a lot

[true pilot]

They dont

they leave it with 50 hp

i think

[latent palm]

50 ho

[little ridge]

It's the "need" word

That I'd like people to use a lot less

[true pilot]

water but not

not H2O

[latent palm]

Air but yes

[true pilot]

just HO

[true pilot]

something that brakes chemical laws

[latent palm]

[last parrot]

there are very few situations where its even advised to use 2 mines

[true pilot]

big only spawn rooms i guess

[last parrot]

giants aren't as countered by mines as smalls are really

[true pilot]

still thats 100 damage

out of 150

[last parrot]

120

[true pilot]

Right not big shooters

[last parrot]

and 100 is best case scenario

versus using guns kills them in every case scenario

[little ridge]

Versus placing 1 mine and just shoot shit tbh

I feel like a lot of the false information going around survives on some people spreading it like it's a required tactic somehow

[knotty bobcat]

How does the ammo boosters work?
Is +52% ammo +52% to the percentage of ammo?
Like if the gun is base 30% ammo, but I use the ammo booster, do I get 82%?

[little ridge]

I'm unsure but I think it's whatever the refill pack gives on the specific gun you have+the%

So for example combat shotty gets 22-23 per refill so it becomes 33-34 shells

how much that is in weapon % I dont have a clue

So basically 100% supply efficiency would mean doubling how much ammo you get per use of ammo refill

[rose nova]

hover above the booster, ammo boosters are just usually for starting the level, and dont modify the total ammo count
supply efficiency is for ammo if im not wrong

[knotty bobcat]

I just used a 52% ammo for fun to see and I had like 92% ammo on the hel revo

[little ridge]

Ah he means ammo booster nevermind

[knotty bobcat]

Yeah

Gives you starting ammo

[spare wren]

Does matchmaking work in this game lol ?

[rose nova]

um tbh not a lot, is just slow and kinda there
id suggest u give a go to the LFG channels, they way better !

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[rose nova]

just some advice!
always ask to not be carried and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel

and if you are new be sure to do the tutorial first [Training] and start on rundown 1 since its the simplest one

[last parrot]

matchmaking does work, yes

its just that very few people use it

[spare wren]

Thanks 👍

[last parrot]

near everyone is in the lfg channels

[rose nova]

good luck on ur runs !

:3

[spare wren]

Figured much, been trying to find a match for like 9 minutes now.

[knotty bobcat]

Also.
What is the ://EXT next to some missions?
Mainly R4-A3-B3-C3-E1

[rose nova]

some rundowns came out with only a few levels, but then got updated to have more, this were EXT rundowns, EXT as in Extension, so those levels were added sometime after the rundown was out

R6 will have 3 EXT levels :>

[lone wraith]

Why does all rundown beside R7 have alt:// next to them

[rose nova]

soo this game used to work like fortnite seasons
when Rundown 2 came out, it replaced Rundown 1, Rundown 3 replaced Rundown 2 and so on, everytime a new rundown came the old one got eliminated
on Rundown 7 tho, the devs decided to bring the old rundowns back, and they did it the ALT://Rundowns, ALT is for 'alternative' as they have minor changes like newer enemies and rooms, different from the originals
and so next up they need to release ALT://Rundown 6

[lone wraith]

Ohhhh

But all the rundowns are here to stay right

[rose nova]

yes now they arent being eliminated :3

[lone wraith]

Incredible

This is completely irrelevant but what happened to GTFO-69 vc

[true pilot]

umm

people were fighting over it

[lone wraith]

It goes:
GTFO-67
GTFO-68
GTFO-Guide
GTFO-70

Oh

[true pilot]

so it was condemned to the great abyss of non existence

[lone wraith]

That's so sad

[true pilot]

[sharp owl]

GTFO-420 when

[true pilot]

when R69 releases

[lone wraith]

Why is "Carrying not allowed" by #lfg-beginners? Is it so new players can get scared 🤔

[true pilot]

it means so people dont carry when not asked to

pro players can go in and beat the entire level for you

[lone wraith]

Oh

[true pilot]

if you just follow their inrtructions

[lone wraith]

Ruins the fun?

[true pilot]

very

[lone wraith]

I see

[junior latch]

im still pretty sure they do since mines can hit weak spots. How it works is probably whats hit first so its not reliable. (Meaning mines can kill giants/hybrids with 2 mines each)

[latent palm]

The end is nigh

R8

[analog flicker]

[wispy bluff]

Because i was referring to something else, not bigs.

[analog flicker]

[wispy bluff]

Why do you think i mentioned armor?

[true pilot]

dogs?

what else can you mean?

bbc?

[wispy bluff]

Sometimes im too vague for my own good i guess.

[true pilot]

yes

not pablo?

[rose nova]

OH

dogs

i was reffering to the S 1 scan

[true pilot]

slen you hit a dog with a mine yesterday?

[rose nova]

thats were i use mines

also yeah i use em for ||R5A2 Extreme||

mines autmatically stagger it

[analog flicker]

woof

Shit

Imean

[rose nova]

o_o

[analog flicker]

[wispy bluff]

Slendi mentioned using mines on a "bit" on R7C1.
Since i don't remember anything big related on that map i made a certain assumption and run with it while assuming everyone is on the same wavelength.
You can connect the rest.

[rose nova]

read in context we were talkin of bigs qwq
sorry i shouldve explain it too

[wispy bluff]

i would never guess the S scan

[rose nova]

yeah with bots mines are very crucial for that scan

[true pilot]

i watched him do that

[rose nova]

:3

[true pilot]

and did not connect the dots

[rose nova]

... now im curious about the dog tho

[analog flicker]

huh?

[rose nova]

cause for my... aformentioned run with bots of that level

i used mined to stagger the snatchy, and it worked

[wispy bluff]

It staggers them alright

[true pilot]

dogs have side armor dont they?

[wispy bluff]

But big think on the actual damage

[analog flicker]

Chunk damage + Stagger. It's nice but you would need to have extra mines to really do it that late in the run

Otherwise you saved on sentry use earlier on

I typically use mines to weaken giants in that section though.

[sharp owl]

dogs?

[rose nova]

snatchie

[analog flicker]

Snatcher

Jerry

[rose nova]

statcher

[wispy bluff]

The wormmen

[analog flicker]

Pablo's Pet

[rose nova]

the fuck

[true pilot]

the funny lookin frog

[analog flicker]

Dauda

[true pilot]

i want a frog enemy in R8

[rose nova]

the vorerer

[analog flicker]

Wait

[rose nova]

wait

[analog flicker]

[true pilot]

bishop

bishop and dauda

[rose nova]

anyways now ill put 5 mines on ||r5a2|| and see if i kill the thing

:]

[sharp owl]

snatcher has head armor

[rose nova]

... um

what if they r in a closed door

[sharp owl]

head armor

[rose nova]

:[

[true pilot]

does he not have side armor too?

he does not have back or front armor (or down/up armor)

[sharp owl]

no just head armor

[true pilot]

then side mine should damage it

or a fence of ground mines

[wispy bluff]

Really? I can aim for the kidneys?

[true pilot]

i doubt it still has them

[sharp owl]

yes you can

[true pilot]

majority of its chest is missing

[wispy bluff]

I kust assumed that everything that isnt red is armored, so i don't even bother shooting otherwise

Up the ass too? When its running away?

[true pilot]

probably

if you manage to hit it

[wispy bluff]

Sounds like vet disinfo to me, but i have no faith in the game's design either so...

[burnt flume]

The ass is normally one of the better places to hit because it should mean you get back damage multi

I think anyway I don't play missions with snatchers in

I can assure you that its rear end is unarmoured

[sharp owl]

the ass and the sides, just no head

breaks skateboard

[frozen jay]

Usually I put 2 50.cal rounds in the rear end as they retreat. I heard they really don't like that, but I cannot hear their death screams over my lacking empathy.

[rose nova]

that statement doesnt bond at all with the pfp u have rn tbh cause now i just imagine the snatcher approachin and u screamin that way

[true pilot]

seems realistic slen

[frozen jay]

Oh tbf going in blind that was my initial reaction to it swallowing my friend. Got that shit on recording too.
I just use my fear profile pic cuz it looks funny.

[rose nova]

fair :]c
i mean i could say the same as in 'ah i dont get scared by those bitches anymore, bring em on' and then i played a certian level, got jumpscared and almost died of fear so

yeah im not gonna say im brave cause, ik i am not in the right conditions lmao

[true pilot]

slen that sure was funny

wasnt it

lets play that level