gtfo-chat

[latent palm]

Is goated spot

[rose nova]

and u still get enemies in ur face

[coarse grail]

some people get so good they can't discern lower difficutlies any more 😔

[rose nova]

:[

[latent palm]

Literally 1 guy makes it through

But ye it the only one

[unborn quiver]

I'm honestly struggling to see the benefit of the class V. The extra cell is not hard to find in the later rooms

I'd rather take an easier alarm

[latent palm]

I mean directed sure

But hectic?

Meh

[rose nova]

the door u open for the last alarm makes it so the last alarm in the level is a bit harder, since theres two ways the enemies come from

[junior latch]

Take carbine. It also bursts giants pretty well

[latent palm]

“Carbine”

[unborn quiver]

Keep in mind I have like 26 hours in the game right now so I'm not a grizzled battle-hardened memer like you guys

[latent palm]

Naw

Dawg

[rancid galleon]

So far the sound design is really solid. Guns sound punchy

[unborn quiver]

I actually did really like the Carbine the first time I tried it

[wispy bluff]

I have like 300 and nothing has changed

[unborn quiver]

Oh man wait till you try the machineguns, the Arbalist V and the Veruta VII sound so good

[rose nova]

sniper my beloved i feel like my ribs get out of my chest when i shoot it and i love it :]

[latent palm]

Im not memeing cause it not good or whatever

[wispy bluff]

I stealth slightly quicker, but my approach to using firearms is exactly the same.

[latent palm]

But the thing is cracked cocaine on dmg

[coarse grail]

Carbine (Van Auken CAB F4) is so good

favourite main hands down

[rose nova]

oh hey i have about the same as u then

[unborn quiver]

The burst is so fucking accurate and the ammo economy is NUTTY

I do miss one-tapping shooters but still

[wispy bluff]

Actually I need to double check. Was 300 or 80

[rancid galleon]

As it should!

[latent palm]

Carbine= cracked cocaine but crashes after out of dosages

[coarse grail]

you can actually one burst shooters I think 😂

[junior latch]

But you are trying to solo R3B2

[coarse grail]

If you get it just right

[junior latch]

Ye

[rose nova]

ur, soloin it?

[latent palm]

W bots right?

[unborn quiver]

No

[latent palm]

Then why?

[unborn quiver]

But I'm using Solo Mode-no-jutsu so it's not like I'm actually dealing with the same spawns

[latent palm]

Hmm

[rose nova]

?

[coarse grail]

M*dded? 🤔

[latent palm]

Let him cook

[unborn quiver]

I like playing by myself ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wispy bluff]

400 hours apparently

[latent palm]

Hol up

[rose nova]

ok nevermin

[latent palm]

Let him cook

[rose nova]

ok if ur goin solo, u shouldnt have a machinegun tbh, or at least it doesnt seem like the best choice, i wouldve thought a special shottie of any kind would b better

[latent palm]

Hel rifle

[rose nova]

:]

[unborn quiver]

I've had the pump suggested to me a few times. I need something to bring down bigs quickly, and the Arbalist V definitely does that

[gaunt inlet]

Does that change room spawns or just alarm spawns?

[latent palm]

I am now slowly getting used to all guns

[junior latch]

aww man

[latent palm]

And will proceed to do randomized loadouts every now and then

Why?

[unborn quiver]

All spawns, luckily. Alarm spawns are the big ones since you genuinely cannot beat though unless you are a god at kiting who can abuse the max spawn limit

[latent palm]

Because GTFO

[coarse grail]

😔

[rose nova]

i mean not cause of that, but cause it pumps up a lot of dmg really really quickly, and it had a big mag size
idk how far ur into the level so far idk if u know the funny funny ksmdkm

[junior latch]

eh, you can actually shoot those alarms solo

[unborn quiver]

I do like playing with others too! I just enjoy the solo experience

[junior latch]

in normal non modded

[latent palm]

When will u be back? August was it?

[barren holly]

Äny Swedish häre?

[latent palm]

Nay lad

Nay

[rose nova]

ah chistoso

[unborn quiver]

Thus far my PBR is getting to the very end of the level, and dying in the fog maze room to giants while trying to leapfrog the Fog Turbine and the OBJ

[latent palm]

Uh huh

Well

[unborn quiver]

Really? I feel like at a certain point even if you're a god you will just run out of ammo due to the volume of enemies

[latent palm]

Have you considered letting you pick up and just run straight line to the stairs back to extraction?

[rose nova]

ok so u havent gotten part that second alarm
so yea no spoils :3
but u will maybe want that shottie

[latent palm]

The maps pretty simpe ngl

[junior latch]

Yes

[latent palm]

Nice

[rancid galleon]

Wondering if 10 Chambers look at people complaining about the difficulty and laugh

[latent palm]

You will be slorped then

[unborn quiver]

UH there's another alarm when I'm headed to extract? Bro how many alarms did this mining company have wtf

[latent palm]

No

[sour thicket]

i just bought this game, played the tutorial and now im too scared to play the real game.

[rose nova]

:D

[latent palm]

They look at the wishes for feedbacks and laugh

[rose nova]

we all are after seein that alarm no worries

[gaunt inlet]

I am no expert GTFO (see username) but I really do like using the Sawed-Off with High Caliber as special. It means I don't have to aim as precisely because I suffer from massive skill issue.

[latent palm]

We all been there

[sour thicket]

NO I PUT MY TURRET FACING THE DOOR U ARE SUPPOSED TO GO IN

[latent palm]

Go to #lfg-beginners

[sour thicket]

THEN THEY CAME BEHIND ME

😭

[junior latch]

Theres some alarms you basically need to kite

But those alarms can be done with minimal moving around (you obviously will reposition to reload at times when a big wave is pushing)

But you dont need to kite around the room

[latent palm]

Ayo?

[sour thicket]

pause..

i thought they would be in the door i was going to

[rose nova]

NOOOO QWQ
at least u got it

[latent palm]

Thats hot

Ngl

[sour thicket]

i was crying

[unborn quiver]

Oh gosh I left my flank exposed I hope no giants come and get me tee hee! 🥺

[sour thicket]

literally tears in my eyes screaming

[burnt flume]

welcome to alarms

[rancid galleon]

Alright, where's that Rick and Morty meme?

[burnt flume]

you have to fight the wave in the current zone to open the door, good luck try not to die

[rose nova]

skdmk well now u know for the next alarm u encounter

[latent palm]

Franks gonna clap u

[sour thicket]

yes but im traumatized

[unborn quiver]

😩

[sour thicket]

and am i correct at this is not a game to be played solo?

[coarse grail]

Yes

[rose nova]

i mean u can with bots but some levels will be impossible and itll get harder

[unborn quiver]

I've only watched a little bit of vanilla true solo, it seems extraordinarily difficult to me but I'd love to see more of it!

[sour thicket]

welp time to convinve all my friends to spend 40 bucks

[rose nova]

since u gotta do most of it

so convince friendos or use the LFG :3

[sour thicket]

true

[unborn quiver]

The LFG setup here is super nice and easy to use, can't recommend it enough

[rancid galleon]

Shame the game doesn't have a 4 pack option

[sour thicket]

bet ill check it out

[sour thicket]

wym

[rose nova]

buy 4 games ksdmk

at once

[sour thicket]

ohh

[rancid galleon]

Buying 4 copies. 1 for you and 3 for your friends

[rose nova]

to like gift

[sour thicket]

for like cheaper

[rose nova]

yeah

[sour thicket]

yea

except im broke

so not for me

[rose nova]

qwq

damn

but well good luck with the convincing then

[sour thicket]

i got one out of 3 of them to say they would buy it

and the other one said he will buy it if all of us get it

so im stuck convincing one stingy friend

but my bday is on saturday so ima tell him to get it for himself as a bday present for me :3

[coarse grail]

the classic "I will if everyone else does"

[unborn quiver]

LOL hugebrain

[rancid galleon]

Galaxy brain

[sour thicket]

yep, we just ended our 3 month gta online spree and that guy is the one who was behind cuz he waited 2 weeks to buy it

[serene berry]

ooph

[jade iron]

thermals used to see through fog, but for some reason they removed that feature, so now the main advantages thermals provide are in seeing in dark areas and seeing shadows

[sour thicket]

theres giants???

[grand vortex]

Nice. Have fun

[grand vortex]

Theres a hell of a lot more than giants

[rose nova]

no spoils people

there b newiees

[rancid galleon]

You can say it's the normal GTFO experience

[unborn quiver]

Yeah, I heard that, which is a damn shame. Like I can't even see units in range of melee attacks which makes it feel kind of pointless for what would be a great use case.

[rose nova]

and if u spoil, ill lick ur spoons

[grand vortex]

of course nt

[sour thicket]

oh no.

[barren holly]

the game is not Amnesia Scary, but it has really nice sound fx

[grand vortex]

@sour thicket just be ready for anything

expect the worst

and it will be even worse

[jade iron]

maybe they thought the thermal guns were too pushed? precision rifle was so godly broken that they had to cut a third of its clip size after all ( )

[barren holly]

will i be able to do the early missions with bots?

[sour thicket]

😭 😭 😭

[coarse grail]

yep

[sour thicket]

i couldnt even get through the freaking tutorial

[rose nova]

yeah, itll b just a lil harder

[sour thicket]

like barely

[rose nova]

since u gotta do the sneaks

by urself

[unborn quiver]

Oh wow, I didnt' realize it ate such a fat nerf. I mean I get that they didn't want fog to be invalidated, it's just a bummer.

[sour thicket]

i was hyperventilating

[rancid galleon]

Come on! 20 minute expedition, in and out
2 hours later, several wipes and you're the only one standing

[serene berry]

ha ha, nope, ha ha, nothing else in this game, ha ha, the tutorial hade every enemy in it, ha ha

[rose nova]

aww poor thing so cute :3
itll b less scary when u play with people ||maybe||

[jade iron]

it's silly, precision rifle was already questionable pre-nerf and then it got hammered

[unborn quiver]

mfw I finished R1D1 after almost 2 hours with 20% health and soiled pants

[rancid galleon]

Do people actually manage to solo a run?

[rose nova]

yeah

[sour thicket]

i was streaming it to my friend and even he was freaking out

[coarse grail]

not many people opt to clear stuff pure solo though, especially so on harder levels

[rose nova]

ok then maybs not i guess MKDMKS depends how much u do jokes with em in the middle of the panic

[jade iron]

probably all A and B tiers, most C tier mains, some D tier mains, and numerous optionals, are soloable without bots or cheese

[sour thicket]

jokes are the only reason i got through it

kept saying how the alien monster things were thick

[rose nova]

owo

[unborn quiver]

Yeah, as a huge solo play enjoyer™️ there are several mission types that are genuinely just way more fun with a group than they are solo

[rancid galleon]

BTW, I should warn you all that I do not have a mic

I mean, I do but it's real shit

[rose nova]

theres chat ingame and a quick chat too, but i bet ur mic isnt that bad

[rancid galleon]

It's a Beats Flex. Not exactly for gaming

[rose nova]

i use a mic in my laptop
cant b worse

[rancid galleon]

Even with hot mic?

[grand vortex]

If its really that unbreabale theres an in-game voice command option

[rose nova]

:]?

[grand vortex]

you can make your charatcer say pretty much all the main important things

[jade iron]

pump shotgun is also great into bigs, it downs 2 per mag as long as you can get in range

[grand vortex]

Scattergun used to oneshot bigs with a single shot before the nerf

[unborn quiver]

Currently trying it on my attempt of R3B2! Where should I be aiming with it? It felt like it took more like 3-4 aiming center mass

[rancid galleon]

I play Battlebit so mic spam is rampant but it's safe to say in here it's not well viewed

[jade iron]

center mass is correct

shotguns pop heads with a few pellets, causing the rest of the pellets to miss

[unborn quiver]

Hm, maybe I just wasn't as close as I needed to be, not sure about the spread pattern yet

[coarse grail]

3 to 4 shots is fine

fnr is saying 2 per mag which is 8 shots

so you're on target

[unborn quiver]

OH thank you Ellda, I misunderstood

[jade iron]

you might've misread me, I said you get 2 bigs per mag which is 4 shots per big

[coarse grail]

if you're getting 3 shots it must be cos you hit from behind

[grand vortex]

ok but aint battlebit like hundres of players?

[rancid galleon]

Unfortunately some games still have mic spam even with low players like DRG

[unborn quiver]

Yeah, took me 4 shots to bring down a big which is 👌

[grand vortex]

i Have only really had 2 or 3 times where i had someone be obnoxious in the gtfo vc's. And i have 400 hours on the game. So dw about it, most ppl are chill and wont really care if your mic isnt that great.

[sour thicket]

im gonna wait to play rounds until my friends play some w me, but after that i will be back to use the lfg

:D

[grand vortex]

make sure you use #lfg-beginners when you do. I joined some crazy level when i 1st started playing by accident and i had no idea wtf was going on

Mfs were out here playing the damn E-tier levels and i hadn't even figured out how to stealth a basic enemy yet

[rose nova]

thats why u check the level the people r playin :3

[turbid stag]

E for Easy

[serene berry]

A for Ampossible

[sour thicket]

😭 bet

[unborn quiver]

Bro its just like vermintide I'm telling you bro, just kite and headshot game is easy 😎

[grand vortex]

Can i play this game on a USB sterring wheel?

Or will it be too easy

[rose nova]

can i play this game on a 1996 dodge stratus

[grand vortex]

[serene berry]

i play this game with a telegram machine

[burnt flume]

I play this game while winning the starcraft 2 world championship and doing ascension 20 heart runs on slay the spire

[unborn quiver]

Truly as the game was intended to be played

[grand vortex]

How did the internet work before electricity was invented? Did they send the data between computers using carrier pigeons, and then wrote down all the bits one by one?

[true pilot]

who will tell him

[grand vortex]

You literally have no mic

[true pilot]

yeah

so

not me

[grand vortex]

Yea so stop talking?

theres no mic

[true pilot]

im not talkinh

[grand vortex]

so how can you speak?

[true pilot]

do not confuse me with the voices

it happens sometimes

[grand vortex]

Oh yea ur right

my bad

[true pilot]

no problem

happens to all of us

[unborn quiver]

Excellent recommendation, got my W on R3B2 with the DMR and the Pump Shotgun!

[jade iron]

the classic

[daring vortex]

can you one tap scouts with precision rifle?

[true pilot]

with a headshot

[burnt flume]

Unless you are very very far away

[pine root]

No

Unless you are half a room away

A big room but it loses its one shot pretty quickly

[sharp siren]

i think its safe to say

past falloff

[pine root]

It’s fall off starts at 15 meters

[burnt flume]

I mean, if you're outside the attack range of a striker you're pretty far away no

and oh god that's sooner than I thought

[pine root]

Or is it. 30?

[burnt flume]

garbage fucking gun, just knife the scout

[daring vortex]

thank you, trying to duo r4 a3 pe and the amount of scouts 😭

[pine root]

Yeah understandable

Gl gl

[burnt flume]

with a small amount of practice you should be able to consistently melee kill them, good luck soldier

[daring vortex]

yeah ive been pretty decent at doing it but still

need something to fall back on

thank you friends

[sharp siren]

30

15 damage, range to 50

come jish

do it

you wont

[pine root]

Honestly I will cause I picked pr in a speed run to kill scouts

And it just

Was worse than choke mod

[junior latch]

S tier R5A1 speed gun

if you take 1

[pine root]

It is r5a1

You just run from one end to the other

[junior latch]

stamina is honestly a gigantic issue

so you want to kill enemies as quickly and far away as possible + a scout kill

[pine root]

Ahh

Choke is pretty good for scout kills with range

[junior latch]

not at that range

[pine root]

Hel Rilfe?

[junior latch]

was an idea
but i couldnt see shooters at max range well enough

in terminal room

also being able to quick check for scout tendrils ahead (since you dont hear shit)

its obviously somewhat of a meme still

but it was a rly good choice

[pine root]

Max sense but pr in r4a2 and r5a2 just wasn’t it

[junior latch]

ye

[pine root]

I ran into the range issue every time

[junior latch]

r5a2 you shouldnt tho
r4a2 it can happen in overload but then again... it would happen to all guns but sniper and hel rifle iirc

[bronze atlas]

gonna try R7C3 wish me luck....

[true pilot]

wish you luck

[pine root]

Idk maybe just unlucky but the I and the bridge tile

Both had it happen

[serene berry]

remember, always be bonkin!

[analog flicker]

Desync: I've taken away your bonk privileges

[serene berry]

[elfin osprey]

i have that 99% of the time

plz sent help

[opaque stag]

got lucky and did r5b1 with bots in about 30 minutes

[pine root]

nice

[opaque stag]

think the choke shot did the trick

[burnt flume]

if it was 30 minutes, you dodged the optionals didn't you

[pine root]

or they are the best speed runner we have ever seen

[opaque stag]

yea main only

[full forge]

congrats on doing it in 30 minutes!

[opaque stag]

i ignored the charger room scouts lol

[sharp owl]

it makes it easier to trigger those before you hit the error

well for me at least

[opaque stag]

they didn't scream during the error

[sharp owl]

yeah the big chargers spawn far so you have time to move in before they get the chance to scream

[opaque stag]

i have more respect for the autopistol now too, staggering them really helped

[serene berry]

staggering a wave so your bots don't swap to melee is actually an important use for a player to prioritize stagger over killing not that i think about it

if you are 1 player 3 bots lol

[opaque stag]

yep, been trying the 1st mission of each level like that

[serene berry]

yup, you are learning some core functions the hard way, but going all bots is an effective way to learn quite a few mechanics.

[craggy crater]

good evening guys please tell me whitch guns and tools i need to pick (im a completely begginner just ending the tutorial)?

[sharp owl]

bio tracker is good for locating enemies and pinging active enemies

as for guns try em and see what you like

[wispy bluff]

Whatever the team requires you to.
If you intend to play solo (with bots) for a while - cfoam. Bots are absolute RT's when it comes to attempting to use it.

[high ruin]

For the guns, the Specials are pretty level-dependent. The main guns less so.

The tools are definitely level-dependent, but I find that mines, 2 sentries, and a bio tend to work out for a lot of levels.

This might not be super helpful. but I'd try everything gun-wise and get a feel for ones you like. We have nearly every gun that's been introduced in the game right now and there'll be ones you probably like more, initially at least.

[analog flicker]

Hel pp supremacy

[wispy bluff]

A basic assault rifle with pump action is a good start

[opaque stag]

only a few guns are objectively bad

[high ruin]

also this

[analog flicker]

[opaque stag]

hsmg is okay but outperformed by pdw, bullpup and precision have shit reload

[rough robin]

hel PP users stay winning

[opaque stag]

burst cannon has too much recoil and not enough ammo

[analog flicker]

[pine root]

it performs pretty similarly as sniper into giants and better into bosses

burst cannon is in a pretty good spot

[high ruin]

True but as long as you take into a level tha'ts not ammo-starved, I think it's manageable. It's a less-niche Sniper to me and is at least better for hordes than Sniper is.

[pine root]

it probs doesnt need the break point nerf that they gave it

i like the recoil and ammo change

if it still had 20 dmg it would be an insane skill weapon

[high ruin]

Personally the damage and ammo nerf were fine to me, I don't love the recoil increase, but it's still a solid pick for bosses and giants.

[pine root]

na i would rather keep recoil and ammo

and just make it a skill weapon

[analog flicker]

It's my alternative for scatter gun for now for teamkilling

[pine root]

it does pretty good

[high ruin]

Amateurs. I teamkill with autopistol.

[analog flicker]

Helpp*

[serene berry]

🎼 "I need some da-mage."
"Helpp!"
"Not just stagger da-mage."
"Helpp!"
"I need some da-mage."
"HELPP!"

[proven steppe]

R2D2 Guides pls?

Tried Scalper Method, but having more problem with multi-scout room

[coarse grail]

what is the scalper method?

Professor Scalper?

[signal plaza]

multi scout room strat is basically just: don’t try to kill them, just get the logs and get out

[proven steppe]

Yes

[signal plaza]

also there’s a very good room to hold in next to the reactor room

pretty pog

[coarse grail]

Which multi scout one? The ring room or the zone after the alarm?

[proven steppe]

Resources thou

[proven steppe]

Ring Room always spawn 2, and the end fog room always have like 3+ if I'm not wrong

then there's another 2 somewhere in the left side of the map after we clear the long corridor

[coarse grail]

I mean I guess it doesn't really matter which, there isn't a great "trick" like that

If you fuck it up and don't have time and alert stuff you may have to eat an extra wave in the side zone which sucks

Just learn the terminal positions, kill the scouts that get in your way, and maybe send a guy back to the terminal early

[signal plaza]

you get resources while getting codes

then you defend in there for 2 waves

then you get resources again

you can loot the reactor room resources if you’re really low

[serene berry]

its better to move back even one room to defend. if you are at the far end of a spawn direction, they will spawn on top of you and its not pretty

[proven steppe]

It's really not a problem about they spawn on top of us

more like they're very very delay

and sometime it only hit us when we're half way into the new room

[coarse grail]

Are you holding on the bridge normally?

[proven steppe]

Yes

We ran up to like Wave 8

[signal plaza]

holding reactor waves?

[proven steppe]

then it just fucked cuz either "resources no more" or "the striker from reactor wave finally reach us after 20 minutes"

[coarse grail]

Make sure you are looting the zones well I guess, there should be enough stuff

Or it may come down to shoot better

[serene berry]

yup, i have not had an issue with delayed waves holding on bridge

i wish there was a better way but on R2D2, if the problem is late spawns on reactor waves, you just gotta defend on bridge and have to shoot better and kill the wave faster.

[proven steppe]

Reactor Bridge defense after like we enter new zone thou

isn't it?

[coarse grail]

You should just hold on the bridge the whole time

[proven steppe]

huh

So we allow them to go in front of us and behind us?

[serene berry]

reactors spawn in a fixed number of waves, if you take a long time to kill one wave, every wave after is delayed

[proven steppe]

and how would that stop delay spawning in when we hold next room that scalper said

[burnt flume]

A little trick for telling if there's a stuck enemy somewhere is
No enemies - your pulse will drop to ~60
If enemy/enemies - lowest it'll go is like 80 or 90

[serene berry]

keep your head on a awivel

[serene berry]

so, if they spawn 2 rooms away, and its a shorter walk for them, they get to you faster, so you kill them sooner. making room for the next wave to spawn.

[proven steppe]

196a room was the room that we were holding in, it got delayed spawn in, so is Zone 194 alarm sequences

[serene berry]

oh you are getting late spawns/lagging wave enemies for alarms? huh

[proven steppe]

like just one fucks walk up to us after we opened door

[proven steppe]

Yea but the enemy just stuck somewhere half the time

their pathing was so fuck that it cost us like half a minute to a full minute waiting

[serene berry]

when going into a room you are scared of, set sentries down preemptively and leave 1 person behind to bonk stragglers i would say.
but i am def missing big parts of this picture

[proven steppe]

yea we did but that means lesser person going for resources run

idk, maybe just skill issue

but holy fuck zone 196 and 194

[serene berry]

i mean, which skill so you know how to improve is what we are trying to figure out

[junior latch]

That shouldnt rly be an issue

[serene berry]

the multi scout zones? lol ya

[junior latch]

3 people can loot fairly quickly

as long as the person holding isnt empty its perfectly fine to work out

[proven steppe]

seriously, like why is the delay spawning so bad

[serene berry]

ya, you can send in people lower on resources so they can just spend what they pick up

[junior latch]

reactor waves spawn 2 rooms away from the actual reactor

[serene berry]

mystery errors are really rough

[junior latch]

so if they spawn opposite of where you are they spawn 3 rooms away quite often (holding in the spot you said)

3 rooms is a bunch of distance

and they only spawn new enemys when the old ones die

[proven steppe]

Reactor is not a room for enemy spawn to count?

[junior latch]

but reactor waves are a set ammount

[junior latch]

? It is the main reactor room

So due to them spawning farther away and dying later and thus spawning later you get waves spawning waaay after reactor waves are over

usually this means holding in reactor or on bridge is the easiest (or you just deal with it)

only time it rly can hurt is for the alarm + scout zone

since you dont want late spawns to spawn inside there

[proven steppe]

Could you like clarify on this

Reactor room don't count for like enemy spawn in ? so we are spawning enemy on 3 room zone away?

[burnt flume]

yea

[proven steppe]

so instead of 0 1 2

we are getting 0 reactor 1 2

[burnt flume]

enemy spawns are blocked in reactor, so the closest spawn on another side would be 3+ rooms away

[junior latch]

its why holding in reactor for r4d1 is the least annoying way (also very fun)

[proven steppe]

any other spot to hold in

[robust gull]

r2d2 is a little hard. everyone needs to be doing something.

[proven steppe]

just the bridge with both side?

Im not really confident with my party shooting skills

ain't consistent

[junior latch]

the spot scaler recommends is completely fine

[robust gull]

loot side zones quicker. yell at teammates to loot.

[junior latch]

if you can deal with some late spawns

[junior latch]

scatter have you seen the theory of how to optimize r2d2? Its omega giga fucked

[robust gull]

not at all, all i know is trying to solo carry is turbo cancer because some pubs just go "i need ammo" but they dont go for the bajillion uses of ammo literally anywhere. actually bots

no sense of self preservation

[junior latch]

I feel that

[proven steppe]

wat

[junior latch]

looting and using ressources is a skill that i know even my og party (400-700 hours) has issues with somehow

[proven steppe]

I dont know, it's just so fuckin hard for a bunch of tryhard

[junior latch]

Speedrun theory of the level

You can do some crazy shit but its litteraly way harder to do (without cheese) than any E tier imo

[proven steppe]

like we spent over 10 hours on it and just get over giga fucked near the end

[junior latch]

eh 10 hours is fine
Have seen worse. As long as youve been improving with it

[robust gull]

the only weird tech i know about r2d2 is one of the zones opens slightly faster than the other one for the keycard rooms on last code hunt

[junior latch]

ive seen someone take 3 months (with help!) to clear r6d1 with nearly daily attempts

[thick temple]

jesus christ

[serene berry]

ooph

[wispy bluff]

To be fair: the server room scan is hell

[burnt flume]

I mean I know I've been taking a while to do some stuff but christ

r6d1 full team didn't take that long

[wispy bluff]

I'm amazed i got it on my first blind attempt, never managed to repeat that success

[junior latch]

200 opens with warmup for 8th code

So you can start the alarm for 8th code while the reactor is starting, getting the code like 20 seconds into the actual downtime

[serene berry]

but like, there were R4 and R5 players on at least some of those runs lol

[junior latch]

thats not the worst part of the level tho

[wispy bluff]

It is to me

[proven steppe]

I just hate R2D2 so hard right now

[serene berry]

fair

[proven steppe]

the time constraint with the multi scout room just really resources constraining

[wispy bluff]

I don't remember when game ever again got so CQC-hellish like it did in that level

[junior latch]

the worst part is going from insta inputting donut room code (probably triggering 2 scouts and the room while the reactor wave for code 5 is still spawning) and then rushing the scout zone code right after

[robust gull]

take a break. do r4b1 to practice reactor code hunting.

[proven steppe]

We finished R4B1 first tried

[junior latch]

or the code 4 post alarm rush. Running into 40 enemies with 20 behind ya to insta get code and input

[proven steppe]

which is why I got really mad over R2D2

[burnt flume]

doing another reactor won't really help with anything

[coarse grail]

R2D2 is such a fun level tho

[proven steppe]

like we cleared every A-B-C

then slowly forming our full party for D tier

[burnt flume]

I mean sure maybe do r4e1 and get your shit kicked in so you improve more to come back to r2d2 and dominate, but

[proven steppe]

but fuck man R2D2 just hard stuck

[serene berry]

its a rough wall, but there are a lot of important skills going into that, you will be much stronger players than when you started

[robust gull]

wholesome content. i wonder if it is easier on OG because lack of stamina on such a big map

[wispy bluff]

wait wait wait wait what are we talking about

[robust gull]

but you also have infection if i recall

[wispy bluff]

R6D1 right?

[burnt flume]

ye there's infection but you do have fucked shotgun sentries

[junior latch]

The scout zone gives you a bunch of time. Either you play aggro (shoot 1-2 scouts, aggro rest. Clean up and then loot) which needs good ressource management tho. Or you calmy stealth for code

[burnt flume]

R2D2, the R6D1 was a passing remark on improvement/time investment

[junior latch]

youd just perma kite (which might unironically be the only reliable way to do this shit strat)

[proven steppe]

we had been doing resources management but optimizing ammo/ improving ammo efficiency just down right asking people to switch weapon that aren't comfortable

[junior latch]

R2d2

[wispy bluff]

I didn't quote apparently. Alrighty.

[junior latch]

what are you guys running overall?

please dont say mines

[proven steppe]

No mines

[junior latch]

phew

[proven steppe]

3 Sniper Sentries with 1 bio

[junior latch]

swap 2 sniper for 2 bursts

[wispy bluff]

huh

what are those 3 snipers doing

[junior latch]

1 sniper is ok to deal with giants and hybrids

what guns?

[robust gull]

my friend unfortunately this is mostly a case of "do it better", which i am not a fan of myself, but it is what it is. bring 3 machine guns and 1 sniper. bring carbine or hel revolver because they are the most overstatted

especially carbine

[junior latch]

theres a bunch of guns that work super well

[proven steppe]

Carbine/PDW mixture for main

Special
1 Revolver
1 Sniper
1 Assault Rifle
1 Combat Shotgun

[junior latch]

the machine guns, hel gun/rifle
1 sniper or choke mod works perfectly well

[robust gull]

if it's the scout zones you have troubles with you just need to put biotracker dude to work. make him ping scouts and call out if they are isolated, then melee 'em

[vestal crystal]

newer players arent going to be useful with revolver compared to other wave clear guns

[proven steppe]

Guides by Scaler

[junior latch]

combat shotty is a big issue since balancing it gets hard (you rarely have the range for it)

HAR is i guess
Revo is either god aim or he prolly missing a bunch

[burnt flume]

there does a come a point where trying to further optimise what's going on is pretty useless

[junior latch]

That was old sniper sentry

before it was nerfed

Also scaler*

[proven steppe]

5 months ago, was there nerf again?

[junior latch]

it got nerfed with alt r3 iirc

[serene berry]

3 months ago i think

[junior latch]

shoots slower, less max ammo, 1 less per refill

[signal plaza]

that 1 less is gonna hurt

[proven steppe]

We never have problem with the sniper sentry running out of ammo thou

tool refill just pretty ok

[wraith marsh]

probably cuz its not shooting

[signal plaza]

woah you said 1 sentry?

[junior latch]

yes lol

[signal plaza]

there’s your problem possibly

[junior latch]

No… its 3 sniper sentrys

[signal plaza]

aghh

okok

[proven steppe]

wasn't it because the symbiosis refund?

huh ok

[serene berry]

Sniper sentry is only playable if you have a bot on bio, AND have good placements

[junior latch]

Swap 2 sniper sentrys for 2 burst sentries @proven steppe

Probably change the revolver for something easier to use and the combat shotgun for something with more range

[junior latch]

NO!

1. NOOO!
2. yes 100%

bot bio doesnt fucking matter

dont think you need a crutch for it

its atm just purely enemy, placement and bio reliant

unless you use boosters

[signal plaza]

bot bio OP tho🥲

[junior latch]

then its still cracked

anyhow. A single Sniper sentry with bio still demolished hybrids and giants

it just sucks otherwise

[robust gull]

fond memories of people having troubles to clear r7e1 with unnerfed sniper sentry and high cal

[signal plaza]

hehe high cal go boom

I mean

[proven steppe]

I will talk to my friend bout it

[signal plaza]

we have hel rifle which kinda took its place

[proven steppe]

thanks

[robust gull]

isnt hel rifle kinda shit for bosses though

[proven steppe]

Is there a patch log

[robust gull]

unlike high cal

[wraith marsh]

fairly bad yeah

[proven steppe]

for the alt run down 3

[wraith marsh]

high cal is worse

which high cal tho

[robust gull]

unnerfed r7e1

[proven steppe]

sorry but they need to be "evidenced" cuz discord chat they would find some excuses following it

[signal plaza]

high cal has mediocre precision damage which kinda makes it worse ish for bosses

[junior latch]

Revolver: it isnt that bad if he headshots a lot on smalls, otherwise just take high cal or hel rifle (1 shots anywhere and has pen in exchange for less ammo)

Combat shotty just isnt it on r2d2

[wraith marsh]

it was worse pre nerf

[junior latch]

pretty oof

[wraith marsh]

same shots per tumor, less per refill

[junior latch]

Also oof

[wraith marsh]

yea neither are good for it

[rough robin]

high cal is pretty shit for bosses too

[robust gull]

i am probably fetishizing high cal a little much

[signal plaza]

like

[junior latch]

Hm?

[wraith marsh]

high cal really didnt matter

[signal plaza]

people gotta realise a low precision multiplier is pretty killing against bosses

[wraith marsh]

sniper sentry getting nerfed in exchange for hel weapons and burst cannon made it easier

not harder

[proven steppe]

Yea was there like a patch note

[signal plaza]

as in it won’t be pretty trying to kill one😎

[wraith marsh]

tho sniper sentry does play the game for you so theres that

[proven steppe]

That I can check on and send em

[robust gull]

i just miss one shotting chargers reliably. maybe i'm a little schizo but it feels like shotguns are more hit or miss when i'm not host

[proven steppe]

cuz wiki didn't say anything about the sniper sentry nerf

[wraith marsh]

high cal still had range problems before

[junior latch]

for sniper sentry? Yes
But it doesnt tell you much

Just believe the guy who litteraly plays with scaler and speedruns lol

[robust gull]

wait until you hear about my 0.91 precision on smg

[wraith marsh]

but yeah it was nice

[signal plaza]

and that, my child, is the only reason I play hel rifle occasionally

[signal plaza]

0.91 precision is good

[junior latch]

Even worse ones arguably since the 30 dmg breakpoint mattered a lot

[signal plaza]

better than 75% of the guns in the game

[wraith marsh]

yeah

[serene berry]

hmmm we disagree on how good the bio player needs to be to coerce the sniper sentry into shooting

[robust gull]

aye im not saying it is bad im saying its still the smg so im basically pissing on things

[junior latch]

Hel rifle. Job done yay

[robust gull]

but its fine. the sight is sexy

[wraith marsh]

hel rifle on reactors is just

m

[signal plaza]

mmm

[junior latch]

Just move up :|

[robust gull]

i will not bend. gun of satan

[junior latch]

your issue

i have grown to like it

[signal plaza]

equip sniper at all times

[junior latch]

hel gun just doesnt work that well in speeds tbh

[signal plaza]

it is always the solution

[junior latch]

Litteraly me in r5

sniper for it all

[proven steppe]

Hard time to like convince my doods based on discord log but I'll try

[junior latch]

Hm?

[robust gull]

i just dont like charge up times. as i get older i become more of a boomer in video games. i dont care how shit a gun is i just want something cozy and full auto

[signal plaza]

same here and then R6 had the ahem balanced sniper

[robust gull]

i only force myself to bring hel revo or carbine if we try harding

[wraith marsh]

.1 charge up is fine for me

[robust gull]

nope. im a boomer

[wraith marsh]

but the fucking .2 killed hel gun for me somehow

[robust gull]

biggest problem for me on the .2 is having to flick a switch in my brain between playing modded and vanilla and readjusting

[junior latch]

Could always just show the videos to proof

or show the patch note that doesnt say anything but „slightly reduced“ (god gtfo patch notes are bad)

[robust gull]

such a mind fuck

[signal plaza]

I recognise this but with sniper ammo economy

[wispy bluff]

This remind me

[serene berry]

i'll try it.
genuinely i think there is not a good range to properly help the sentry and not fight it for kills

[signal plaza]

swapping between 13 in vanilla and 15-18 in modded

[wispy bluff]

they nerfed high cal base dmg and did not compensated precision... Not that it matters i guess, but still

[junior latch]

Yea cuz they compensated it with ammo

[proven steppe]

Which videos ya

Would be helpful

[junior latch]

why would you buff its precision artek??? It wouldnt do anything

[wispy bluff]

Ironically sniper sentry is at its' best when its placed in another room fighting the swarm all by itself

[junior latch]

All R7, Alt R2 and Alt R4 completion videos, some guides (r4a1 background lul) and my own speeds i guess?

[wispy bluff]

If its shooting same angle you do - big waste

[robust gull]

tbh you could just run 4 high cals still and stat-check all a/b tier levels as a new player. i recognize it as the low skill revolver now

decimate full waves and none of your mates need to reload

[junior latch]

i feel like you might undersell biotracker ping range

[robust gull]

24 insta kills

[gaunt inlet]

Me, enjoying my use with Hi-Cal. 😭

[junior latch]

LETS GOOO

[robust gull]

we love power creep

wholesome content

[junior latch]

i mean the „low skill revolver“ part

[robust gull]

oh

[wispy bluff]

Compansete how crap it is into big. Maybe save an extra bullet by headshotting the guy, i don't know

[robust gull]

oops

[wispy bluff]

What is it, 5 bullets right now?

[rose nova]

6 in mag

[wispy bluff]

not what i asked

[junior latch]

5 to kill a giant

[serene berry]

mayhaps

[rose nova]

sorry i just saw the convo

:3

[junior latch]

but gasp, you get more ammo now

[wispy bluff]

blergh

[proven steppe]

Im watching the speed but I doubt my team are high skilled enough to do those tech

[gaunt inlet]

But I agree. Hi-Cal is easier Revolver because I don't have to hit headshots.

[wispy bluff]

25 is such a piece of shit damage value

[junior latch]

Mostly talking about them believing the „dont take 3 sniper sentries and combat shotty + revo“

[proven steppe]

like the initial mine blood door

[gaunt inlet]

Maybe when I improve in skill I can transition into Revolver.

[robust gull]

the best giant killing weapon is the hel autopistol because the comedic value in reloading a gun twice to kill something is overpowered.

[rough robin]

glad it's not 20 though cause then the high cal wouldn't be able to kill giants at all unless you got behind them

[wispy bluff]

why not nerf it further to 20 at that point and buff range to appropriate 15-20m or whatever

[storm quartz]

Guys just use your perfect boosters to get High Cal to 30 damage

easy fix

[rough robin]

wait yes it would

nvm i can't math

[junior latch]

Hey hey hey, heavy smg needs 3 magazines

[robust gull]

thats so fucking hot

[junior latch]

Cuz then you overbuff it and make revolver pointless?

artek talking about gun balance is always uniquely interesting

[junior latch]

I know right?

[wispy bluff]

I keep forgetting revo exists honestly

dont care for that gun at all

Point still stands

[junior latch]

It doesnt

[wispy bluff]

25 damage is a very akward place

[junior latch]

25 is ok

[wispy bluff]

it is not

not with all these 50000000 chargers across last 2 rundowns

[junior latch]

its over 20 (important) and compensates for the low range/fall off

20 sucks vs chargers too

compensating 5 dmg for more range does nothing but nerf it

btw

[wispy bluff]

But it sucks less and i have an excuse to two-tap them

[junior latch]

just freaking gun swap if you care that much

[storm quartz]

You can stagger the chargers and finish them of with you primary with 25 damage pretty easily

[wispy bluff]

wasting whole 20 damage to finish off a death door enemy is such a piece of shit moment

[junior latch]

rifle exists

im not the type of guy to say gun swapping makes high cal good vs chargers

but dont take a gun thats not good vs chargers and cry about it

[wispy bluff]

You know what, you convinced me

[junior latch]

LIKE REVO HAS THAT ISSUE

[wispy bluff]

i'm bringing high cal to my next D1 attempt

[robust gull]

most of this argument wouldn't exist if they used chargers as a unique enemy type per wave and not as a roided up striker in c/d/e levels to inflate difficulty

[wispy bluff]

i'll see if i can force it to work

[rough robin]

I think calling high cal a low skill revolver is underselling it though

[proven steppe]

ok Thanks a lot @junior latch

[rough robin]

revolver can't kill giants. sucks even worse against chargers

[junior latch]

btw it works even better if instead of gun swapping you have a teammate clean the kills with hel revo @wispy bluff

[gaunt inlet]

||Sawed-off/Hi-Cal|| 🙏

[proven steppe]

will try best to git gud meanwhile

[wispy bluff]

You see... Here's the thing: i don't trust my pub teamamtes, much unfortunately

[junior latch]

both guns are small focused

High cal is just better at all rounding. Both suck ass vs chargers. Both are kinda meh to ok vs giants

[wispy bluff]

"If you want to get something done properly - do it yourself"

I'm not staggering a charger and then hoping one of 3 randoms will get the memo and slap him with something else

Watch me get punched for it

[rough robin]

i wouldn't say it sucks ass against chargers, at least with high cal it leaves the chargers a few inches from death

so a teammate shoots them once or twice and they dead

[junior latch]

Carry me through r4c3pe and i join you for r5d1

[robust gull]

yo on god down to r4c3pe?

[junior latch]

so does revo 2 tap

[wispy bluff]

🤮

[robust gull]

i fucking love that level if you do overload first

[rough robin]

then you're spending 2/6 rounds instead of 1/6

[junior latch]

you also have an insane reload vs an ok one

again both guns are at best panic weapons vs chargers

[proven steppe]

btw, what's the point of Hel Rifle

Just dealing giants/higher HP pool enemy right

[wispy bluff]

lmaooooooooo

[rough robin]

kill a mf and the mf's standing behind him

[robust gull]

just take the red pill and become a PR main so you know life can only get better, not much left to nerf

[proven steppe]

I never branch out over non-shotgun special so yea

[junior latch]

Penetration. Best anti charger gun
Super high range (scout killer)

[proven steppe]

it's really too low ammo for my liking most the time

[wispy bluff]

Penetrating multi kills. Oneshots strikers, shooters and chargers with a single hit to... Anywhere. It catches a chargers toe? He's dead. All of 3 of them, if stars are right.

[junior latch]

And behind him and behind him

[junior latch]

Same ammo as choke mod. 1 more than standard shotty per refill

[wispy bluff]

Its okay for giants too i guess

Align 2 of them and just make sure shots count

[junior latch]

the small mag gets balanced by 1. insane range and 2. penetration

[wispy bluff]

you need... uh... exactly 4 shots for a giant kill

[rancid galleon]

Yall weren't kidding. This game is scary and really hard

[rose nova]

:]

[wispy bluff]

that's pretty much your whole mag, but hey - that's 2 dead giants

[proven steppe]

I dislike choke and standard because they're just not very ammo plenty compare to combat shotgun but will see how it goes

[wispy bluff]

Yeah, welcome to hell.

[junior latch]

Combat shotty is 1 overtuned and 2 super duper short range

[wispy bluff]

I had a very nasty wipe recently. The game can get really mean when it wants to.

[rancid galleon]

Still a fun game ngl

[junior latch]

also. Realistically you wont get perma 1 taps even as a cracked host combat shotty vet. So if you get 1 pen per shot on hel rifle you have ~18 kills per refill vs prob less than 18 on combat shotty

Also cant believe artek didnt want my offer

[wispy bluff]

I'm not going back

I'm so sick of shooting chargers like i'm mining coal mines (colour checks out)

I'd rather play R7C1 again

...but can't because that's a waste of time - i need dem clearz

[junior latch]

Wdym waste of time

[wispy bluff]

2 fucking levels and i can resume my elder ring playthrough that got put in stasis a year ago. Don't ask.

[junior latch]

Just run QUICK

[robust gull]

if you guys like smashing pale dudes with a sledgehammer hwy not turn up to a lan party and go to town

they will probably try to lick you too

real life gtfo gaming??

[rough robin]

Me when I keep killing monsters and ghouls with my sledgehammer but I'm starting to wonder why they were carrying bags of candy

[rancid galleon]

Been thinking if GTFO is one of those rarities that the "gameplay vs lore" meme would be the same for both

[wispy bluff]

Very much yes

We got a little dark souls situation here, only somewhat worse

[robust gull]

no

[wispy bluff]

Maybe one day i'll write gun lore for the game or something and send it to Calle out of boredom

[proven steppe]

Malding cuz no guide over sentries update

[rancid galleon]

Like on Reddit there are theories about the Warden and how they might not even be human

[proven steppe]

is there data mine spreadsheet

[robust gull]

gameplay for gtfo is a bunch of coked out vets complaining about everything even if we know nothing will change. lore is a bunch of paranoid schizos trying to make sense of schaeferr having fruit loops for breakfast 3 weeks before the events of the game take place

[junior latch]

Yes. But sentries usually arent included

[proven steppe]

time to kms

[robust gull]

"what are the deeper philosophical meanings behind this?"

[junior latch]

anyhow. Sniper sentry takes ages to shoot even with bio rn

just trust

burst sentry is king

[wispy bluff]

much unfortunately

[junior latch]

taking 1 sniper sentry on reactors for giants is „ok“

[proven steppe]

when every other thing do shit so bad that burst is king

[junior latch]

Eh. Burst is rly good (has been since R6)

[mint cargo]

Okay, looking to play the game, complete noob, who wants to jump into the deep end with me 🙂

[wispy bluff]

Try #lfg-beginners , prefferably post the standart thing of rundown, level, lobby... Maybe join someone...

[wispy bluff]

Almost forgot to ask: did you finish Training?

[rough robin]

nonsense. take 'em to r7e1.

[rough robin]

you insult the shotgun sentry

[proven steppe]

I took CPU increase speed like what people told me

[junior latch]

sry that pun missed

Just like shotgun sentry

[wispy bluff]

Yeah, shotgun is okay after the buff. Burst still better.

[proven steppe]

I ran out of ammo before 0.5 wave

[junior latch]

Thats a troll on it xD

[wispy bluff]

Yeah, dont

Bioping is the way for shotgun

[proven steppe]

shotgun sentry just decided to

shoot the corpse

[rough robin]

situationally dependent

[wispy bluff]

It allows it to not consume ammo on some shots which prolongs its fighting prowess

[proven steppe]

Sleeper is DEAD, STOP

[wispy bluff]

now if only players didn't suck ass when pinging things

[junior latch]

Shotgun sentry can work currently

but i never recommend it

since it 1. needs very specific placements
and
2. needs a decent bio player

[wispy bluff]

sigh

[junior latch]

so just take burst. Gets 70% of what a good shotgun sentry does or 150% of what a bad one does

[proven steppe]

ok got it

burst sentry changes

more machine guns

which one btw

the increased fire rate one or the lesser text description one

[rough robin]

counterpoint to 2: Teams of 3 have the best bio of all

[wispy bluff]

If your guys can handle the recoil and shitty looking glass scope - Veruta

Otherwise Arbalist (low RPM) is a lazy bastard

It got about as much recoil as bullpup, but it actually deals damage

[junior latch]

Both are good. Arbalist is easier to aim with, veruta easier to spray with

[proven steppe]

Didn't you recommend me bullpup last time

and I suffered on killing

[rough robin]

bullpup bad but arbalist not good

[proven steppe]

[junior latch]

Counterpoints

1. boring
2. cringe
3. bot

[wispy bluff]

Were you the one "hey, which gun is very easy to use?"

[proven steppe]

I hit my shots but I want to kms

[rough robin]

recoils not really comparable since arbalist shoots at like 400rpm a nd bullpup at 1100

[wispy bluff]

Bullpup is indeed the laziest gun in the game, and it pays for it

[gaunt inlet]

Bullpup made me sad.

[rough robin]

counterpoint-to-counterpoints: only two of my friends stuck with this game I have no choice

[wispy bluff]

The only recoil on it when ADSing is the sight sloooowly going up

[junior latch]

Just play pubs

pog

[rough robin]

a fate worse than death

[junior latch]

or find crack heads

like me

[gaunt inlet]

Does anybody here actually frequently play with random people in the LFG's?

[wispy bluff]

Yes.

[rough robin]

I do remember recruiting blackdragon for an R4E1 once

[junior latch]

i dont due to anxiety, but i know a bunch of people who do

[wispy bluff]

All my clears are either bots or LFGs

[proven steppe]

No, I tried couple time it was just being carried or one guy rushing the alarm door without telling us

[wispy bluff]

Once R4 dropped i could no longer solo my way through As and Bs anymore

[junior latch]

Same thing

[gaunt inlet]

Maybe I will jump into the random LFG's then.

[wispy bluff]

Do Nomad clears count?

[gaunt inlet]

Everybody always like, check LFG's.
But then I wondered how many people here actually did that. Haha.

Find people to play with, but not random people

[junior latch]

i often check

rarely join (often just as said above)

[wispy bluff]

I spent last 30 minutes monitoring LFGs for R5 D1 / D2. No luck so far.

[junior latch]

also theres people like artek who wont play with me

[proven steppe]

the latter one was a guy "skill issued"

[junior latch]

shame

[gaunt inlet]

What region are you?

[wispy bluff]

east eu

[proven steppe]

rush on R1A1, getting 20% hp first

died

[wispy bluff]

but im watching east, west and NA

i don't mind the lag as long as the burgermen get me a clear

[thick temple]

shit why have i never been called a burgerman before

[gaunt inlet]

We should play some time. I have slightly more intelligence and considerably worse aim than a bot.

[thick temple]

me in a nutshell

[rancid galleon]

Well, dinner's ready so later I'll be ready if anyone wants to join for a drop

[vestal crystal]

nahcies if you're doing r2d2 2 sniper sentry and 1 burst sentry is fine

if you bring 2 burst you can run out of tool if you are using both bursts for every wave

[junior latch]

true

but appearantly they not been having tool issues at all while having ammo issues. So balancing that out might help more with a 1 snip, 2 burst

Its more reliable either way

god im sad bio symbiosis exists

at this point remove it so we could actually get balanced sniper and shotgun sentrys

[wispy bluff]

You know what... I agree with that statement.

Or buff bio symbiosis further until an average pub can use it

[junior latch]

its not about bio needing to be used well

its that it makes those sentries ass without bio but only ok with it

or good without and broken with it

[severe horizon]

damn why the matchmaking so ass

[wispy bluff]

How about ass without and nice with

[junior latch]

theres not been a single time where that wasnt true for sniper sentry

[wispy bluff]

Because no one's there. Everyone is in LFG.

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[junior latch]

youd have to giga buff the symbiosis. Making biotracker simply for broken and it troll to bring the sentry without (or use it without) which would make it even worse with bad bio teammates

[proven steppe]

Just checking

Wiki is outdated right

For the Sniper sentry stats

It said 3 seconds firing without symbiosis

1.5 seconds with symbiosis

[vestal crystal]

Max ammo is correct so the rest probably updated too

[proven steppe]

Hm

[thick temple]

"Sentry_StartFireDelay": 3.0,
"Sentry_StartFireDelayTagMulti": 0.5,```

[proven steppe]

Was it that bad without symbiosis

3 second seem ok? Or I’m tripping

[junior latch]

3 seconds is a long time

it was 2.4 before iirc

[sharp owl]

it used to be fine

[junior latch]

0.6 seconds difference is pretty big

[wispy bluff]

Sniper S is currently lacking some chromosomes without bio... And even with.

[sharp owl]

tho on r7 release it was busted good

[junior latch]

see bullpup reload being ass (2.4 sec) vs AR reload being mid (1.8)

[wispy bluff]

Its only good if you can find it a spot like Half-Life combine snipers

Or that one Episode Two bit with Sniper Alyx

[turbid root]

can i say the n word

[wispy bluff]

Not here and probably avoid doing it in VCs

Seen people come here cry every so often

[turbid root]

ok

thx

[proven steppe]

Got it

[thick temple]

holy shit wait i didn't realize how fucked it was back in r7, used to be 1 second default .25 multi??

[junior latch]

Hm?

what

i meant 2.4 seconds shot delay

[proven steppe]

Symbiosis 1.8 pre-nerf

[thick temple]

yes
according to originaldatablocks it was changed from r7 > r1
startfiredelay: 1.0 > 2.0
startfiredelaytagmulti: 0.25 > 0.5

[proven steppe]

Or uh

[quartz valley]

i think steam is down rn

[coarse grail]

what why? xD

[quartz valley]

gtfo just had us all get booted to the rundown screen mid battle

and nothing was wrong with internet

anybody else having problems?

[latent palm]

same

it might be on fixes

[quartz valley]

i think steam servers are down

[wraith marsh]

tuesdayyy

[tall hawk]

me when the warden takes us back up after we wake up room

[silk ridge]

servers down?

waiting on systems assets to initialize

[quartz valley]

gtfo kicked us out lol

[thick temple]

yeah tuesday steam maintenance

[proud dome]

oh thats nbot just me xd

long maintenance ?

[glass trail]

new player just to see that I cant play the game
How long?

[thick temple]

until steam is done with maintenance

[proud dome]

shouldnt last long i think tbh

[river magnet]

Ah its not just me

I came here just to ask this

The game tell me progress is not saved and crash when I launch it anyway (steam)

I’ll go play sea of thieves until it’s fixed then 😎

[merry sluice]

Omfg. R4D1. Get to last code. Grab it . Steam goes down! 😢

So close to done on the 1st try

[analog flicker]

Tuesday is a bad day to attempt runs

[spark verge]

Wer Deutschsprachig hier?

German Guys here?

[left kelp]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[rose nova]

#hc-europe message !!

#hc-europe message oh

[rancid galleon]

Alright. Did 2 drops, had tons of fun

[rose nova]

yay :D

[rancid galleon]

Will stay for the game.

[rose nova]

ohh noice
u likin it so fars?

[waxen mantle]

hey, so, me and a bud are doin r7d1, and the confirmation command on the main terminal isnt working, especially after using the verification command. are we doin somethin wrong or is the game screwed?

[rose nova]

whatcha mean it isnt workin
does it says its unknown? mayb b a typo or check when u put it in n stuff

[waxen mantle]

no like, with the verification command, you can press tab after a few keystrokes to autocomplete it, but it wont do it for the confirmation command, and it just says that the command is unrecognized

[sharp owl]

the command only works when you need to do the verification

before or after u cant autofill with tab

although you can use the up arrow key and get the command and keep it ready

[waxen mantle]

we even did that and it still didnt work

[sharp owl]

weird

are you doing it at the designated terminal?

[rose nova]

only the person that wrote the command can use the up arrow key to get it, otherwise it wont let u and u will have to write it again

[waxen mantle]

i know man

i mean

the up arrow thing worked

the command itself

didnt

[waxen mantle]

both the verification and confirmation

[rose nova]

a sorry

[sharp owl]

so the sequence just goes?

[waxen mantle]

the confirmation terminal is the one you start the sequence at, correct?

[waxen mantle]

ye

and just doesnt let us confirm

and then spawns huge wave of enemies

[sharp owl]

ive never heard of this

[wanton plover]

We've (Me, My wife, and Friends.) had a glitched terminal on r1 you just gotta restart bud @waxen mantle

[rose nova]

i mean thats probs different

what was the issue there

[wanton plover]

Dunno, we couldnt get terminal verify commands to work on the uplink and had to reset.

Worked second time

[rose nova]

did the terminal had the connection one?

[merry sluice]

Olny thing ive ever had happen with a terminal that I couldnt ever replicate was I used Tab to fill in Reactor for READ REACTOR_VER###.LOG Everyone checked and it was in correct and it wouldnt verifyt. Erased and put it in and it went through. NEver could replicate it

[upper shard]

I just did a mission with the bots and opened a bulkhead door and completed the secondary mission, assuming I’d get more rewards but still only received one cosmic. What’s the point in doing the secondary task?

[sharp owl]

more playtime

[wraith marsh]

fun

[rose nova]

brag rights

:]

[upper shard]

Ok, thank you. I wasn’t sure if I missed something or not. Is it the same for extreme?

[rose nova]

secondary and extreme are the same

[sharp owl]

extreme refers to the threat lvl which was how the game used to label em

[rose nova]

the other objective is OVERLOAD

[gusty burrow]

It used to be the case that you'd get a reward for a certain number of unique seconday completions, but they decided to stop doing that /shrug

[rose nova]

which is the thirs

which is the hardest

[sharp owl]

they moved those to getting cosmetics for every main objective

[unborn quiver]

Are there enough missions to get all the cosmetics?

[latent palm]

No

Wait til Alt R6

[unborn quiver]

despair.gif

[sharp owl]

they add cosmetics every rundown so u cant get all of em

[latent palm]

Gif momento

[unborn quiver]

That is actually tragic

[rose nova]

as long as i have my santonian vestis im happy

[latent palm]

As long as i keep my robo arm

And or have new ones

[merry sluice]

I like my peg leg and spongebob mask.

[latent palm]

You mean Lemon head

[unborn quiver]

Yeah if I don't get the prosthetics I am going to RIOT

[merry sluice]

Lol ya

My friend just wants the hood. Hes not gonna get it.

[latent palm]

Ultimately place a mine on extraction and boom

[unborn quiver]

LUCKILY it appears that there is a hooded cosmetic as a guaranteed reward for 100%'ing R3, so there's always that

[merry sluice]

LOL Ya we've been telling him to sacrifice us at the end of missions It hasnt worked 😦 Maybe he does need to mine all 3 of us.

Oh there is Tan cause we're on R3D1 for R3's. Just been waiting for all 3 to get on.

[thick summit]

Need two players for R5A1. Lost connection earlier sorry guys weird internet issue all fixed tho

[rose nova]

hello, u can find n share lobbies in the LFG channels

[thick summit]

Thanks sorry about that

[rose nova]

no worrieees

[dusty osprey]

what are the differences in break points for the hel gun and rifle which situations should i take which

[robust gull]

depends if there are chargers or not

hel rifle only becomes an option if there is charger abundance really. it one shots them.

[rose nova]

hel gun has more ammo, but it deals less dmg, it has more in mag and oneshots smols with a headshot, tho for bigs it need a bit of spammin, and yeah it spams if u got good timing, and penetrates 2 enemies with one bullet
hel rifle deas 30 dmg, has less ammo in mag and in general, and it oneshots smol anywhere in the body, including shooter n yeah chargers, u cant spam it and it can penetrate 5 enemies with one bullet

[sharp owl]

yeah if it doesnt decide to hit some another bodypart

[lofty grotto]

FINALLY! R2E1 is done and thats now ALL of R2 under Soundless Madness

[sharp owl]

With bots?

[lofty grotto]

no