gtfo-chat

[little ridge]

Will probably give the R6 ones so people can catch up

[topaz ridge]

im omw to r6

[jade iron]

good, I'm sick of RESETting for drip

[rough robin]

they just need a method for people to get more cosmetics after finishing every level

[little ridge]

I just hope it has a chance of giving R5-4s so I can get those back

[topaz ridge]

halfway thru r5 rn

[rough robin]

idc if it's beating r7e1 with bullpup and precision

but some way to repeatedly get cosmetics

[topaz ridge]

first time cosmetic is shit ik

[rough robin]

then they wouldn't have to do the whole RESET REQUEST crap

[topaz ridge]

why dont they have repeated cosmetics for every run

[rough robin]

^ but I feel like it should only be after you've beaten every level

[sharp siren]

dang that was my compeltion

[topaz ridge]

why not get cosmetics after the 2 or 3rd run

[proven steppe]

Ill be honest, I dont mind they just ask for a dumb Rundown level as "Random" with your equipment being "Random" for grinding cosmetics

giving 4 players bat torture so they can get a new hat

[topaz ridge]

as long as i get more shit then yeaa

[little ridge]

Truth is they could have a system where you request them to give you the missing cosmetics, they check if you have all completions and give you shit on the next finishes, like what happens for time limited stuff, where you get stuff for next X level finishes

[proven steppe]

or just 4 sniper sentry on reactor level

[rough robin]

surprised GTFO doesn't have a random button

[little ridge]

It would have been more sensible than what they did

I dont care about not getting the drip

[topaz ridge]

surprised the game still functions with a discord

[sharp siren]

we can just get creative events like a cool game but you guys are not ready for that convo

[little ridge]

but the system they made for fixing that shit was the least effort possible

[topaz ridge]

uh hello?

[proven steppe]

Im just happy that GTFO shit netcode allow me to play on 300 ms ping

[topaz ridge]

its called destiny 2

[proven steppe]

Destiny 2 have progression thou

[topaz ridge]

lol

[topaz ridge]

at least it has events

unlike this game

[proven steppe]

Yea Asian playing with NA host

and hell, not even handicapped for it

[sharp siren]

I tried to get them to do an event ( a cool one) they dont want too

[topaz ridge]

lol nice

[proven steppe]

tongue dont hit me most of the time and scout detect me late

[topaz ridge]

why would they lol

[little ridge]

ok, tell the story BD

[topaz ridge]

lol cheatcode

[little ridge]

And post a pepe emote so I know it's you

you didnt post one in a while

[topaz ridge]

[sharp siren]

legit just made an offer to calle thats all

[rough robin]

what was it

the best r6 cosmetic they could give would be "Give the braveer pathfinder top a neck cover"

[topaz ridge]

whoopeeee

[proven steppe]

I just need a robot head

to complete my drip

I am already a leg and an arm short

[topaz ridge]

convex scorpion

[proven steppe]

I got that

but it ain't drip as I want it

plus you're bald

Prefer Hood over my shiny bald head

[rough robin]

The ultimate completionist cosmetic to add

Hair

[proven steppe]

The real reason why most people prefer hackett mask/ hood is because all the mask is just you being fuckin BALD

[topaz ridge]

yea my bald ass looks so old

[topaz ridge]

mammoth darkeye is the same one but without the piss yellow colour on it

[unborn quiver]

Unironically true, even the starting mask slaps but then everyone sees how malding I am

[proven steppe]

hair loss from stupid people rushing to start any alarm door without their team

[topaz ridge]

chemo therapy

[jade iron]

the real reason I prefer hood is because it lets me go back to being as edgy as I was as a teenager

[topaz ridge]

lol

[unborn quiver]

bro it worked in Vermintide okay bro just kite 5head

[proven steppe]

Kerillian Mains talk

[topaz ridge]

some fuckers dont know how a door hack works

[unborn quiver]

LMAO

[sharp siren]

hagbane enjoyers

[topaz ridge]

so they keep mistiming their clicks lmao

[rough robin]

Who's going into these HSUs and shaving our heads between levels

[topaz ridge]

the warden prolly

he has a weird fetish

[rough robin]

Do they shave the rest of us?

[proven steppe]

while smearing shit onto our drip

[rough robin]

The lore goes deeper than I thought

[topaz ridge]

why would he only shave our heads when he could shave our pubes as well

[sharp siren]

My hype for the lore died down so much

[topaz ridge]

check the backstory of the characters

[sharp siren]

i envy anyone who actually gives a shit about this lore

[rough robin]

I need to know who's shaving us

[proven steppe]

GTFO lore wasn't really special to me

[sharp siren]

i know they're stories i was there when it was written

[topaz ridge]

check backstory, check enemy creation backstory, check warden backstory.

thats all you need

[sharp siren]

i just cant afford to give a shit after r6

[topaz ridge]

ah

[proven steppe]

It feel great until it's another The last of us route

[unborn quiver]

That's a shame, coming in fresh at R1 the lore is pretty compelling

[proven steppe]

But Alienssss

Fungus dude, Female get their head with poppy and males get extra muscle mass

Alien Mushroom Lets gooooo

but hell, Fuck Spitter (Acne of the Wall)

[rough robin]

Burn the spitters

[proven steppe]

I hope I can just destroy them at one point

[rough robin]

What I wouldnt give to be able to destroy cocoons

[proven steppe]

Cocoons is fine, but Fuckin Acne

[jade iron]

WHY DO YOU DO WHAT YOU DO DO YOU KNOW

[proven steppe]

These things is just pain in the ass

[rough robin]

Yeah

[sharp siren]

ARE YOU AWAKE

[proven steppe]

not even serving any gaming purpose, just there in the corner to edge your stress level

[sharp siren]

IM JUST ABOUT TO FALL ASLEEP FROM THAT 45 SECOND AUDIO TIED TO THE SCAN

Hopefully they'll actually change alt r6 to be enjoyable

but track record says otherwise

[rough robin]

They go through the effort of doing stuff like bringing the VA's to re-do thr r5 logs

So the potentials there

[mint light]

I mean they HAVE to do new audio parts for alt R6

[topaz ridge]

rate the drip

#gtfo-media

[proven steppe]

Dirty

[topaz ridge]

fair

[mint light]

can't leave it like OG when you basically where changing logs in all Alts

[sharp siren]

oh no i would like for the lore people to get more lore

but dont drag me into it

fuck those long scans

[topaz ridge]

i shall gather the lore for u sir

[sharp siren]

and audio logs during fights

[proven steppe]

Just waiting for a good video for the summarised lore

I ain't got time to piece everything together one by one sitting infront of the console

[little ridge]

It's just that it went from optional and kinda subtle to forced and obvious

[mint light]

I do agree with Blues_Dragon here tho

[proven steppe]

while having giant and charger clapping my butt cheeks

[sharp siren]

i loved r6 gameplay but the replayability went to shit with the shitty lore dump infront of you

[mint light]

because NEw plaYeRs 🤮

[proven steppe]

I still dont understand the cacoons backstory

why does cacoon exist

How

[mint light]

R6 was a compromise that did not need to exist. Checkpoints, forced audio etc etc

[sharp siren]

mom climbs the walls a shits on it

[topaz ridge]

LORE

we be bad people with fucked up past
we go sign up for smn called The Legion
we get our shit together and meet up in the prison
we get our memories erased
we meet up in the lab to get tested for covid
we get prepped in the sleep pods
we wait for titanfall drop to happen
then we go down and die in the fiery pits of hell

gtfo in a nutshell

[mint light]

you aight? bit unhinged today?

Taco must have been extra spicy

[sharp siren]

i aint wrong

[proven steppe]

Sound totally possible and reasonable ngl

[topaz ridge]

ehgg

[proven steppe]

and why does syringe give infection still weird to me

[mint light]

you rarely are

[topaz ridge]

more dmg

and sped

[mint light]

🤮 I said it

[topaz ridge]

theres smn called the internet

use it

[proven steppe]

No I mean lore wise

[topaz ridge]

covid vaccine

[rough robin]

Alien goop

[topaz ridge]

its still in development after 2020

which means covid still exists in 2035

[proven steppe]

shit put a red cross medical indication on it

to infect people and turn them into normals

[rough robin]

I mean this is also a world where they have disinfection packs that successfully fight the virus

I think it just comes to gameplay vs story

[proven steppe]

Wasn't disinfection packs is just water to clean your suit

because it's so toxic

[topaz ridge]

check #wiki-chat

for purpose

[rough robin]

Your character wheezes and coughs so I assume it's not just the outfit that's infected

And the whole health limitation

[topaz ridge]

health limit is shit

but it makes sense in a way

[rough robin]

I think its good

If this game had a hardcore mode I could see going down limiting your health, now that would suck

[topaz ridge]

your health goes down to 10% at max i think

[rough robin]

15

[topaz ridge]

ah

i think EA had it at 10

why would they increase it to 15

[rough robin]

Yeah I saw a vid of old r2 and it was 10

[topaz ridge]

an odd number

[rough robin]

So you can survive a lick

[topaz ridge]

just shoot em dead idk

[sharp siren]

never was

we were "hardcore" for the wrong reasons back in EA

[rough robin]

What do you mean

[topaz ridge]

non ea player

typical

[sharp siren]

well the guns werent really balance well, most sentries didnt work nor hit targets, shotgun sentry just had a stupid amount of damage going on for it been the only reason it was viable, nobody really understand how to setup or use tools correclty, game was just too new

only by r4 ext that people started using braincells

[topaz ridge]

shotgun sentry was op with the damage

[sharp siren]

like legit most of the tools where just broken and bugged

[topaz ridge]

now they nerfed them to the ground

[sharp siren]

wachu mean shotgun sentry its pretty good now

[topaz ridge]

burst sentry dont do much

auto sentry can fuck off

[proven steppe]

Its still okay, just that it need booster + BioTracker

[topaz ridge]

sniper sentry has no crowd control

[sharp siren]

I aint going into this

[topaz ridge]

ofc yea bio tracker is only good with those sentries

[rough robin]

Shotgun sentry my beloved. that last buff made it very nice

[proven steppe]

confusion

[topaz ridge]

bio tracker is only good for shotgun and sniper sentry

both have low rate of fire so no crowd control

[proven steppe]

Why do you need CC with killing sentry

[topaz ridge]

otherwise youre overrun

you need cc for tight areas

[proven steppe]

Hel Shotgun got you cover? along with I mean there's Hel AutoPistol if you really desperate for CC

[topaz ridge]

hel guns i dont agree with

just an opinion not a fact

[proven steppe]

I dont know, I believe as long you have unlimited ammo, most stuff just dont pose a threat

it's really just ammo efficiency of the guns

[topaz ridge]

but ammo can run out and then youre in a pickle

[proven steppe]

And you could just dont use sentry for reactor mission

[topaz ridge]

yea

[sharp siren]

use a terminal

[proven steppe]

if you're extra cracked

[rough robin]

Query pickle

[topaz ridge]

ping pickle

[junior latch]

bio tracker is godly

And burst sentry doesnt do much? Wha

[wispy bluff]

It's a perfect mid of a sentry in a literal sense. Mid DPS at mid range with lame burst fire configuration with mid cooldown.
The problem is that it's so inoffensive that it ends up outperforming the other 2 that only do well under bio which players just cant provide reliably.

[sharp siren]

high as a kite

[rough robin]

I dont really like bio tracker symbiosis

It absolutely fucked the sniper sentry, which is now borderline useless without it

[wispy bluff]

Yeah...

[jade iron]

it, like, beheads one striker a second

which is pretty fucken cracked imo

[wispy bluff]

Oh that's the funny part as well

[jade iron]

putting like half the wave into chip range and/or dead is pretty nutty

[wispy bluff]

It's like 2 bursts to kill right?

Maybe if it was three it would be kinda balanced. Or if the cooldown between bursts was a little bit longer.

[rough robin]

I usually see it take 3

Sometimes 2

[jade iron]

it should be 2

[wispy bluff]

Otherwise its just the hammer of sentries. Can't go wrong, it'll figure something out anyway.

[rough robin]

That's basically what burst is

Nice jack of all trades

There are some scenarios I'd def prefer shotgun through

[wispy bluff]

Not having to rely on 10 santimeters bioping range is a boon to it as well

[jade iron]

like 1 burst rips the head off which puts the striker in chip territory as far as I recall

[wispy bluff]

Other sentries be like: "Piiiing me. Piiiing meeee"

Pathetic little creatures

My favorite part of experience with sniper sentry is picking it up after a scan and realising it took like 2-3 shots, if any

Urgh

[jade iron]

I think people are underrating current sniper sentry

it's not cracked, but it can still do respectable work

[wispy bluff]

Oh no , its 100% re@#₽&

[jade iron]

sometimes even without pings, if you can arrange generous sightlines

[rough robin]

Real chads use sniper sentry to kill scouts

[wispy bluff]

Based

The amount of times I see sniper just waving goodbye hands to sleepers passing by

Can we have the R7 buff back please

I'm so tired of burst status quo

[jade iron]

it does have some real 2head moments, I won't deny that

[dusty acorn]

hey guys what does the long code number for at the lfg channel ?

[wispy bluff]

"Are you sure you wanna bring X sentry? You should bring burst if you wanna win"

[jade iron]

copy into your clipboard, then when you're on the rundown screen a red "join lobby" button will appear

game just reads lobby codes from your clipboard, you don't need to paste anywhere

[jade iron]

dear god no

anime sentry had its time

it's healthy for the default goto sentry to not also massacre bigs

[dusty acorn]

oh wow that's kinda cool way to join a lobby

[dusty acorn]

thx for the information

[jade iron]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[jade iron]

for more info

[dusty acorn]

im on SEA, so the best server should be asia right ?

[jade iron]

probably asia or oceania would be your best bets for ping

game uses a host/client model, not dedicated servers

so whoever you can get a decent connection to, really

[dusty acorn]

ahh okay man thx again

[jade iron]

or you can try regions further away, just be mindful that connections with the other side of the world will be pretty bad

[dusty acorn]

im new to this game, kinda need some mentor ingame. im pretty bad at this game

[wispy bluff]

Probably will be free in an hour, maybe.

[dusty acorn]

can u guide me ? i only finished 1 trial 1RA1

[wispy bluff]

Could try, although feeling lazy. Not at home right now too.
Consider asking in #lfg-beginners someone will surely answer.

[livid gulch]

skill issue

[wispy bluff]

Doesn't hit the same when coming from a smug fox

[woven lily]

That’s one thing I really liked, there’s some awesome folks in here willing to help out us newbies to learn the ropes 🙂

[gray pilot]

[empty tide]

do you have to do all levels in R5 in order to unlock R5E1?

since I don't see "Artifact heat" or "Not completed" under R5E1

[junior latch]

you have to compelte all levels on main

[sharp owl]

you need to finish all the main objectives

[empty tide]

Thanks for letting me know

[sharp owl]

any time (turn around before its late)

[empty tide]

I'm only missing D2 main in that case

R5E1 can't be that bad

[junior latch]

: ^)

have you done r4e1?

or r2e1?

or r7

[empty tide]

Finished R2E1, R4E1 (with secondary), R7E1

[sharp owl]

or r3e1

[junior latch]

yea then r5e1 shouldnt be that bad rly

[empty tide]

how would you rank all E1 levels though?

From most difficult to least difficult

[junior latch]

r4>r5>>r7>=r2

[empty tide]

Sweet

R2 was pain though due to the fog

[sharp owl]

what makes r7e1 equal or greater than r2e1 🤔

[fair loom]

7>=2

[junior latch]

both arent that bad, but r7e1 is way harder blind

[sharp owl]

thats fair

[empty tide]

R1A1 > R4E1

if you're going blind

[sharp owl]

i agree, hsu placement is hellish

[empty tide]

I do dislike R5, since that was the first rundown that I ever experienced and I remember it being a pain

and also respawn rooms being introduced

[knotty bobcat]

R7E1 is harder blind than R2E1
I've completed R7E1
but I can't complete R2E1

[latent palm]

Why dislike R5

[empty tide]

Personal experience and biases, R5, in my opinion, has the longest missions without the checkpoints, meaning that you can die at the end of R5C2 PE after near 2 hours. At least that was the case in the original R5. I'm not saying that I dislike ALT://R5, just that I disliked the original R5

[latent palm]

My POV yesterday:

[empty tide]

dying in R5C2 PE?

[latent palm]

R5C2 then:

[empty tide]

[latent palm]

R5C2 now:

[empty tide]

I've yet to do PE with friends, but main seemed pretty chill

compared to the original

[latent palm]

OG overload was fucked

[knotty bobcat]

Other people:
Hardcore gaming through E PE missions
Me (baby)
E main too hard pls help

[latent palm]

Yo you need E tier?

[knotty bobcat]

I need R2E1

Surge alarms scawy

[latent palm]

It’s hectic alright

But scary?

You and teammates GID GUD i guess

[knotty bobcat]

That's what we're working on

[latent palm]

2 machine guns + pump shotgun + hel gun/sniper/hel rifle is gud

Have everyone’s weapons and boosters (optional) compliment one another

And the run would be utmost chill

[knotty bobcat]

I was thinking of bringing the hel revo and combat shotgun

[latent palm]

Hel revo is good

But combat shotgun is a no go

[knotty bobcat]

Really?
Figured it'd be good and spammable

[latent palm]

1: not versatile in dmg
2: only useful in surge and nothing else

3: killing enemies is the best stagger

[knotty bobcat]

Yeah that 2nd point is kinda the reason of taking it.

My buddies can take something else that helps more vs the hybrids and scouts

[latent palm]

Remember you have teammates

And i said above

[latent palm]

^

Im not saying that its bad

[knotty bobcat]

If I have a combat shotgun to help with the surge
and my buddy brings the hel rifle or machine gun for the bigger targets
Wouldnt that be good?

[latent palm]

But its less risk included when the combo is combined

[latent palm]

It would

Cause your friends can focus both wave and giants

While you do flank cover

Stopping anything that breaks the first outer ring of the kill zone

[knotty bobcat]

..Mhmmm

On another note

Would a 30 dmg high cal be too OP?

[jade iron]

lies, no level is longer than r4c2: pabulum

also r5c2 is actually fun

[empty tide]

I don't mind the r4c2 tbh, I actually prefer it over r5c2

[junior latch]

certainly spend more time on r1a1 til i got my last clear compared to r4e1

[junior latch]

what, the fuck

[latent palm]

Spread the misinformation

[junior latch]

dont listen to that

combat shotty is rly rly good in isolation. its even better for surges (my standard loadout for r2e1 is hel shotty + combat shotty if i got someone on hybrid duty)

90% of the level if smalls and that in bunches, guess where combat shotty shines

[latent palm]

Dw combat shotgun good

[junior latch]

no, it was 30 dmg in r7

with its current ammo it would probably be on the very strong side, but not broken yet imo

[knotty bobcat]

[latent palm]

And my friends say i cant start an argument on GTFO

I just did

[latent palm]

Did it have 7 rounds in mag on R7? I only remember the dmg

[junior latch]

@knotty bobcat anyhow, for the surges. The 1st surge try to avoid staying somewhere to kill enemies as a team UNLESS its the scan itself

[junior latch]

nope, it only changed dmg and how steep its dmg fall of was

[latent palm]

I thought it had the bug like DMR where reload into 11/12 per mag

[junior latch]

you can move around/parcour quite a lot in that surge and safe yourself a bunch of ammo/hp and tool refill by moving and not placing down tools

then clear the wave by running into the room with the door (that was open the whole time) and mine that

[burnt flume]

I think it was at some point they reduced the mag size from 6 to 5, then reverted the mag size back to 6, but it still reloaded 5 to the mag

[junior latch]

that was a bug with alt r4 where it always started with 5/6 and had issues

[latent palm]

I never had that bug where it come to 5

[junior latch]

mag size (at least on live) never was reduced

[latent palm]

I always see the bug where o reloaded on 7

[junior latch]

?

[burnt flume]

ah gotcha

[latent palm]

Yes

Real

[burnt flume]

I don't remember most balance changes for guns I never use

[latent palm]

I remember before it got nerf i had that bug where it loaded in one extra shot

My peak time too

Where i just go in and one tap everything

[junior latch]

one less*

god damn

[latent palm]

Could be

[junior latch]

is definetly

[latent palm]

But my memory stays

[junior latch]

wrong*

[latent palm]

Or i could have memory loss

After i brain fused as one with machine guns i just go full brain rot mode

[empty tide]

The moment I realized R5D2, when going for the key, you pass through respawn rooms

realized it too late

[latent palm]

True

But still

It is a respawn

[empty tide]

I did die to be clear

[latent palm]

Nothing too dangerous tbh

[empty tide]

and went back to lobby

[latent palm]

[empty tide]

yeah but I realized it way too late

[latent palm]

Btw @junior latch how would you recommend combos for R5E1

Boosters are used in this run

[junior latch]

boosters make a lot of stuff not rly matter

if you use them well

[latent palm]

Thw Apex door had us dead left to right cause some1 rushed

[latent palm]

Im trying to change play styles from machine guns to maybe hel/snipers

[junior latch]

i ran sniper for the whole of r5

[latent palm]

Really trying to get the brain rot out of my system

Cause my team never look after when theres literally half a wave sitting on top of me

Not saying that they’re bad

But they aren’t handling anything much so just askin

[junior latch]

honestly theres only rly 1 alarm i remember that actually has it matter for wave clear in r5e1, the first one
after that just clear error waves and chargers/giants

[latent palm]

You mean the surge 5? On the 2 scout room?

[junior latch]

ye

[latent palm]

I wouldn’t say it matter cause

When mined it got us 3.5 scans done

And just to fight one wave on full team ngl

[junior latch]

spare the 2 doors for the cell alarm (if you dont cell skip)

[latent palm]

Oh yeah

They always came from the right

So thats a great deal

[junior latch]

no, but that cell alarm is a lot easier that way

[latent palm]

Ah

But is it worse to just fight them head on a V surge?

[junior latch]

eh

surge can be kinda oofish
but that cell alarm is honestly far more dangerous in my experience (especially if you say that your teammates are not good at holding waves)

[latent palm]

No theyre good

Just not at looking after their teammates perhaps

But sure

I’ll definitely try that in a few hours

[visual lily]

10 chambers your stamina system is ass

[rose nova]

just dont run

ever

:]

[junior latch]

you barely go into the bad stam usually

[wispy bluff]

Never had an issue with it unless i'm forced to sprint for like 20 seconds straight

Finding yourself in a situation where that's needed is a whole different shtick

Something like, uh, i dont know...

Ignoring the scan and running in the opposite direction to pick up a turret with a bad angle that isn't shooting anything

who would do that, i wonder

[grizzled bison]

Stamina largely only affects stealth

[wispy bluff]

Does it now? I wouldn't know, i don't sprint during stealth

[grizzled bison]

You don't have to

Meleeing too often is usually enough

[burnt flume]

not only stam bad, but they removed a lot of the funny movement

no dashes or bhops

annoying audio

although I guess now it feels liek if you slide and bhop for reloading you can go faster than before

still net loss

[robust gull]

i literally do not care for the actual stam system i just want the option to turn down the max bpm sound - especially when fully infected

i am not immersed i am pissed off

[hollow mortar]

anyone know what u filter stands for using the list comands?

list res e_## vs list u e_##?

[junior latch]

this honestly

[rough kiln]

Has the U in resources and the U in security which lists key cards

Stamina low SFX is extremely annoying, agreed. It’s unnecessarily loud like all of the annoying sounds

[rose nova]

U is basically every itwm of interest :]

[rough kiln]

Boot up scream? Too loud. Elevator drop? Too loud. Artifacts? Too loud

[hollow mortar]

u won't show ID's

security makes sense since it shows cells and keys

[rough kiln]

Yeah it gets most of the important things

List Y also lists other important items

Those 2 letters generally avoid most of the garbage filler you’ll find while listing zones or the full map

[hollow mortar]

any chance you know if this is skipped over in r1?

[rough kiln]

Not sure what you mean but the filter system has largely remained untouched

[rose nova]

i think IDs should appear

but i dont remember their tag

wasnt it 'Unknown'?

or "Security"?

[hollow mortar]

y or u isn't working

[rough kiln]

I remember one of the types of pickup objectives fail to get listed in that

[robust gull]

controversial opinion detected, 30 hours of r1c1 terminal community service.

(joke)

[hollow mortar]

maybe it's just the id than

[rose nova]

check the command, if ur listin the correct zone n such

[hollow mortar]

want to say i've used it for osips and such

i did

[rose nova]

ok maybs its the exception then, but u can also just LIST ID E_XXX and have the same result i think

[hollow mortar]

yeah i know just been trying to figure out why u listed more than just the res

didn't know about secuirty

[rose nova]

ah oki :3

[hollow mortar]

sledni and project zaero thanks for the info

[wispy bluff]

I survived FromSoft's title drop intros - i can survive a guy coughing his lungs out

[split onyx]

🐈

[green rivet]

meow

[prime gale]

any group of 3 of ppl who needs 1 more to play GTFO, I'm open for an invite

[left kelp]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[rose nova]

just some advice!
always ask to not be carried and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel

and if you are new be sure to do the tutorial first [Training] and start on rundown 1 since its the simplest one

[solar cradle]

Howdy all, just launched game, is there anybody wants to play 🙂 its my first time playing

[wispy bluff]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[little ridge]

they dont

[rose nova]

just some advice!
always ask to not be carried and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel

and if you are new be sure to do the tutorial first [Training] and start on rundown 1 since its the simplest one

[rose nova]

a

[little ridge]

#gtfo-chat message

[little ridge]

You could do both tbh

unless you want also key/other key items of course

for some cases, like res rooms or reactors (R1C1) I just use U

since it has no keys/cells/whatnot

but really writing RES takes 2 more keystrokes

so whatever

[rose nova]

no ik they explained it to me in the same convo

[little ridge]

Also consider that e_xx is still gonna pick up turbinE_xx etc etc

[robust gull]

careful to not add a 3rd x to your example text or you will wake up the sleeper agents

the thirst lays dormant.

🍆

[little ridge]

ScatterEagle is the kind of guy to enter a bank, look at the teller and simply tell him "It's done", then walk away and not elaborate further

[robust gull]

it's not my fault the doctor is not prescribing the right pills

[burnt flume]

You should either speak to your doctor or pharmacist about that

[robust gull]

nope trauma post on gtfo chat until r8

[hearty lily]

maaaaaaaaan, me and my friend got to the checkpoint door on r7c1? i think it is, "monster" unbeknownst to us we got the cell bug :/ is there anything to do to fix it or just runs dead

[rose nova]

there is a fix but only like use it if u think u can get it on this run
let the person with the object stuck to their hands disconnect and put a bot in their place, then open the checkpoint door and wipe again, then restart from latest checkpoint and lthen et the person rejoin, the item will be on the floor

i think its a fix for only like that current run

so if u think u need more practice or way more tries or maybe have a better run with the resources, id say restart from scratch cause its usually a better option

[analog flicker]

it is best the person that has the stuck cell. not be host

otherwise host migration issues become a factor

[glacial aurora]

i have no where to put this but oh my god id love if the map got an overhaul

[rose nova]

why
i mean its, functional

some details maybs yeah

could b changed

[glacial aurora]

its j im never using it unless im mkaing sure i didnt miss a locker or crate

mayeb not an overhaul but its just not intuitive.

like not being able to see pings on the map.

[magic wigeon]

they recycle a lot of rooms

like

a lot of rooms

like i just ran r2c2 again and saw that 117 was literally a copy past of 115

[rose nova]

i mean u can see em in ur screen which is just usually more useful, u can see the areas and zones and if u look at the signs on the walls [doin that makes em appear on the map] u can use it to like plan routes and strategies with ur team since it also shows doors

[glacial aurora]

yeahh

id just like to be able to put symbols the map

and the drawing shouldn't jsut evaporate after 2 seconds

[rose nova]

i mean it would, become a chaos if it didnt evaporate tbh

[left kelp]

First 4 zones are legitimately the same fucking tile and I hate it

[magic wigeon]

yeah exactly

I wish there were more individuality in each level

its work but its worth it to make the game better

[left kelp]

They couldn't just reroll the fucking zones

I might be imagining R1C2 actually

[magic wigeon]

its honestly every level that does something like this

whole zones are just copy pasted from a different one

it makes it pretty boring to traverse seeing as though everything looks the same

[old wadi]

R7D1 is so damn hard, is there harder levels coming in r7?

[left kelp]

I don't really mind using the same tiles in the same level, just not the same tile 4 times in succession

[magic wigeon]

I mean the further u go the harder it gets id assume

[magic wigeon]

yeah understandable, I just think they need to put more effort into maps and just the game as a whole

[old wadi]

We managed to get two times into second alarm, class x charger stuff. Both ways, main way and longer side way. But we still somehow cant beat these guys. It took so much time but no. What turrets or guns we should use?

[magic wigeon]

well whats ur loadout rn? and what tools are yall bringing

[old wadi]

We had 2x shotgun turrets, 1x sniper turret, and biotracker. And heavy ar, and that thermal scope gun

Alarm is so long, in the end chargers just come through

[wispy bluff]

R7-E1, obviously.

[magic wigeon]

when u say thermal scope gun, u mean pdw?

[old wadi]

No, that presicion rifle, I dont remember the name

[magic wigeon]

ohhh ok

I mean any high damage weapon would be good

[left kelp]

Double burst, foam or mines, bio

someone with double auto shotguns can help with defending waves alongside sentries

[magic wigeon]

I don't personally like shotgun sentries

uhhh

[old wadi]

Okay, that sounds good plan

I dont know is or better to do little bit longer run for easier alarm, because that saves ammo.

That first alarm is ass

[magic wigeon]

conserving ammo would always be a preferred tactic lmao, just make sure with the high damage weapon, u also have a good crowd control one, im p sure heavy ar is fine

only thing I'd say is wrong with the pr is that its a slow reload

but if ur other one is fast enough it should be fine

mostly just

changing out ur tools as pling suggested

[old wadi]

Yes we’ll try that tomorrow, hope it works, I think so. Thanks

[wispy bluff]

Slow reload, small mag, body shot damage is not that great (11)

[magic wigeon]

good luck!!

[magic wigeon]

yeah also true, but like, just hit headshots B)

I started out gtfo using the pr so I'm a bit biased towards it I think

of ur good at aiming tho it does pretty well

[left kelp]

Counter argument

Revolver

[wispy bluff]

You can do that with a revolver and probably me more ammo efficient.

[thick temple]

doesn't work on chargers also

[magic wigeon]

fair point! ik its not good for giants either

[hearty lily]

Hey also, in monster, after you get past the checkpoint door and put all the batteries in the generators at that point are we collecting those canisters it talks about?

[wispy bluff]

Don't quite got the question, come again?

[hearty lily]

The doors u open with the cells, are the cannisters you need to collect for the main objective are they in those doors?

[magic wigeon]

u can find out using the terminal

[hearty lily]

I tried to query them, didn't work but I was probably doing something wrong

But also there was the endless wave of mfers O.o

[magic wigeon]

r u playing with a squad or with bots

[livid gulch]

your moms

[rose nova]

yeah, so every path is 3 zones, and every zone has 3 canisters, so its a kinda choose ur own adventure if u wanna like go through an entire path or maybe put cells in both doors and then do like a criss cross

[hearty lily]

Ohh ok, and is it really endless enemies the whole time??

[hearty lily]

It was just me and my friend, so two bots

[rose nova]

:D

yeah um pro tip KMSDKM
probs do that mission, if u already did the C tier in r2

dont ask why

but it gives u

[wispy bluff]

Yes.

[rose nova]

some practice

[magic wigeon]

aahhh well good luck to u two!

[wispy bluff]

There are... I believe 3 canisters in each zone

[hearty lily]

Thanks lol we stopped cuz the bug but we may have a 3rd friend helping later

The first first checkpoint scan is aids tho

The super slow one

[rose nova]

thats not a checkpoint i think, u mean the alarm?

[hearty lily]

Ye ye the alarm

[wispy bluff]

You can even make a choice on how you want to proceed with GLP collecting. You can commit just going deep into 1 side, or you can go shallow into one and then switch to the other and do that.

[rose nova]

yeah thats not a checkpoint :D

thats just an alarm

[hearty lily]

Ohhh ok

Hmmm

[livid gulch]

skill issue

[wispy bluff]

Most veterans apparently prefer the 2nd approach since the deepest rooms are just too big to work with and find the last GLPs

The horde will stop once you find the amount required

[hearty lily]

Fug

[livid gulch]

usually you're limited to whatever the batteries can access anyway

and by that I mean, you are

[rose nova]

i mean not really, every door needs a cell

so ur like

...

well no i guess ur right

u can only go into 3 doors since u got 3 cells

[hearty lily]

Can u ping em?

[rose nova]

but u cant get softlocked so dont worry

[rose nova]

the glps? yeah but u need to b inside the zone

[wispy bluff]

Once inside the zone - yes

[livid gulch]

if you find the terminal inside the zone yes

[rose nova]

if ur inside the zone

[hearty lily]

Good good

Thank y'all

[rose nova]

much good luck in ur runs :3

[hearty lily]

Gracias

[rose nova]

ahueso

[livid gulch]

bad luck 😈

[cursive arrow]

Hey, I'm kinda new here and to the game and to the server as well, how can I create a channel on active now to invite people?

[hollow flint]

returning player and its been a long time lol do yall prefer to just matchmake or is it better to find a game on here?

[rose nova]

find a game here :]

we have LFG channels foooor that

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[burnt flume]

You don't create a channel, you use one of the available ones, if you can't see them go to the Channels & Roles section at the top of the server to give yourself access

[rose nova]

just some advice!
always ask to not be carried and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel

and if you are new be sure to do the tutorial first [Training] and start on rundown 1 since its the simplest one
i mean ur not new but just in case

[livid gulch]

I'll join your voice chat and moan like a little girl

[cursive arrow]

Thank you ❤️

[sharp owl]

bruh

[wraith marsh]

only in gtfo chat

[rough robin]

most sane day in gtfo discord

[cursive arrow]

Thanks for the tips as well

[rose nova]

no worries

[carmine ore]

no thanks

[smoky wave]

rummor has it according to twitter belle delphine is about to start twitching this game to promote it

[burnt flume]

she still exists?

[smoky wave]

is the deepest parts of most simps dreams

[robust gull]

Please no

[sharp owl]

as if gen chat wasnt enough

[rough robin]

belle delphine onlyfans ❌

schaeffer onlyfans ✅

[sharp siren]

but henrikson its the bottom

henrikson of ✅

[pine root]

Thank god

We needed something to talk about

[clear magnet]

im seeing on the wiki that the shelling s49 (main pistol) does less damage on precision hits? am i reading that right?

[pine root]

No

[robust gull]

Not quite. The value is lower than the base damage then multiplied by the damage bonus of whatever weakpoint you're hitting

[pine root]

You are missing the sleeper headshot bonus

[robust gull]

Base damage not multiplied

[pine root]

It is

For some odd reason

[robust gull]

It is?

[pine root]

Yeah just sleepers have their own muilt

So it is .75*2 or something

[robust gull]

Oh ok so it's not a huge gap in my knowledge just... Cringe game quirk?

[pine root]

Yeah I thought it worked the same way

Cause it makes sense

But apparently we do things werid here

[wraith marsh]

it works in the more simplistic yet weird way

[pine root]

Na it just doesn’t really make any sense

It works but

[wraith marsh]

from the math standpoint it is simpler

very easy to calc

[pine root]

It isn’t pretty tho

The other way is pretty

[robust gull]

It's ok. Won't matter.

[rose nova]

we will all die at the end

:]

[wraith marsh]

I dont see how but diff of opinion ig

[robust gull]

Guns will be too power crept by r8 more combat shotgun, carbine, and veruta buffs

[rough robin]

carbine buffed again

+12 mag

[robust gull]

So hard to balance with a combat shotgun

I have to purposefully troll to use the ammo pool

[rough robin]

simple. make it full auto

[robust gull]

It is already I'm pretty sure

[rough robin]

i figured it was semi

[wraith marsh]

I did for a long time too

same with hel shotty

[robust gull]

Same way they don't know PR is full auto kekw

[rough robin]

the PR being full auto is insane

why

[robust gull]

To get to the 3.3 second reload faster

Duh

[rough robin]

KSOs developing arthritis upon starting a precision rifle reload

and losing it 3.3 seconds later

[robust gull]

Shake the rusty bone juice off

[gusty burrow]

Full auto PR legitimately useful into giants so that you can not kill them in one clip faster

Also yeah, imo if they'd made the 'default' prec multi 1 instead of 0.74, and then scaled the weakspot multi of everything to compensate, I think it would have been a bit more intuitive

Or even if they'd wanted to make striker headshot multi 2X then the weapon default could've been around 1.1X

This also would have made giants just have a headshot multi of 1 which makes so much more sense

[wraith marsh]

yeah that part is stupid

I have no clue why they didnt do that

[gusty burrow]

What if everyone just collectively right at this moment just decides to pretend they did it that way

Mum get the camera, new mum multi of 3.33 just dropped

[robust gull]

wouldn't that cause problems with high damage weapons like sniper?

or is my math a little bad

[gusty burrow]

Well you just make sniper prec multi 3 instead of 2

[analog flicker]

[gusty burrow]

Multiply all damage prec multi's by 1.5, divide all enemy critical multi's by 1.5. Math is the same everywhere

[wraith marsh]

ye

[robust gull]

i urge you to remember the bravery it took them to patch the high cal reloading 5 rounds instead of 6. it tooks days, if not weeks to muster. the patch you're suggesting would set the offices on fire and cause a famine in china somehow

[wraith marsh]

a universal change to everything to make it prettier wouldnt have any side effects

because there is no gun in the game meant to do less damage on precision hits

because thatd be stupid as fuck

[analog flicker]

Eh

[gusty burrow]

I mean they decided to make the enemy critical multis pretty at the expense of weapon ones

But 0.74 is just really not pretty

Game design is hard can't complain

[robust gull]

me, living off the high of my beloved smg having a precision multi of 0.91 (one of the highest in the game)

[sharp owl]

fixing the required obj text not turning white twice was a dealbreaker

[robust gull]

one of the only big numbers it can boast about

[wraith marsh]

yeah ig thats true

I do kinda prefer having the enemy ones prettier, but the enemy ones would never go "negative" so

[analog flicker]

Precision multis in the end prevent some guns being too strong with weakpoints

[wraith marsh]

youre missing the point of the discussion

reread

[robust gull]

game could just use a number look-over ngl. it saddens me chargers are used as roided-up strikers and not their own enemy type sprinkled in a wave

those two thoughts are very loosely connected i apologize

[gusty burrow]

Me likey when wave have striker and charger, very fun wave, enemy diversity very good

[robust gull]

unironically though

"me make b tier level into d tier level by making striker black and up numbers. me smart"

[wraith marsh]

chargers are a C tier enemy

fuck

my joke got sniped

[robust gull]

haha get fucked

[gusty burrow]

I wonder if they started with melees when doing prec multi stuff, and that's why they all have pretty 1s but then guns were just op at headshots

[robust gull]

game only started with one melee so i'm hesitant to entertain this thought

[wraith marsh]

considering sledge was the only melee originally and none of its breakpoints are really pretty for precision cuz of charging

I doubt it

[robust gull]

another big change i'd love is to spawn big chickens in more frequently. they could even nerf big strikers if they wanted to, reallocate the power budget of a wave

rather than buffing guns to handle with big chickens aswell if they did become more common

iunno im just spitballing i hate sounding like a pessimist, finger glove wearing trenchcoat having redditor or something i just love this game and wish it was bigger and had more

such a good concept and pretty solid art n shit

[rough robin]

dw dw this was just a teaser for the +1 chamber update

[tepid bay]

R1B1 gelecek var mı? 2 kişi lazım

[sharp siren]

They just gotta fix heat bug

[robust gull]

only heat bug that exists is the one in my pants when i see a big chicken up close

IF YA KNOW YA KNOW 😏 Y'KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING BRUDDERS?

dey THICCCCCCCC

[sharp owl]

💊 👉 #general

[rose nova]

we do not claim em

[sharp owl]

[rose nova]

bat is better

[robust gull]

why would i go to general to describe the thickness of an ingame creature?

that's just blatant disregard for rules

[sharp owl]

thats reasonable

you're off the hook this time

[pine root]

Do chargers take less dmg on the head

Does it count as a headshot hitbox

[robust gull]

i never thought about this, and i'll be sad if they do

[rose nova]

yeah and if u blow ther top part and r still alive they punch u for 2% more dmg

[pine root]

True

[robust gull]

wouldn't the best way to test this be like, a chokemod shot? i don't even know the precision multi for choke i just know the damage is just enough to one shot a charger

30.4 or something

[gusty burrow]

choke mod prec multi is 1 though winky face

[robust gull]

is it actually?

i have cancer

[gusty burrow]

yessir

[robust gull]

i'm too dumb

its the only explanation

my skull houses an immense tumor

[pine root]

Auto pistol to the rescue ?

[rose nova]

:D

[robust gull]

i will be taking my apology, your heart is warming up to it

[pine root]

Lol no

1 dmg is very useful in calculations

[gusty burrow]

I mean we already know from old high cal it doesn't matter

[pine root]

Oh true that

[robust gull]

sniper sentry meta comeback when

i love russian roulette on security scans when people dont pick up sentries

[gusty burrow]

Except that the .01 sometimes actually matters because you regularly fire 100 shots

[upbeat grove]

Ok furry

[pine root]

If only it was 0.0001

[gusty burrow]

Gonna ruin my Pablo kill calculations :((

[robust gull]

do you want to roll into pubs with me with an auto pistol and roleplay as auto sentries with me, completed with lock-on sounds and schizophrenic shooting at already dead strikers?

with me.

[normal lake]

honestly i love the idea of 2 or 3 people who make nothing but loud breathing and monkey noises joining a lobby together and all running auto pistol, auto sentry, a machine gun, and knife

nothing else would remind me more of home

2 would probably be best

[sharp owl]

hieee, anyone down to help me and a friend with R2C2?

U can try your luck in lfg, not sure if people are willing to play rundown 2

🥺

[normal lake]

i would but i have work in the morning and cannot commit myself to the autism of gtfo

[sharp owl]

Do you go monkey business the moment U launch gtfo?

[sharp owl]

As much as I hate to redirect people to #general but U might find someone there

[normal lake]

what the fuck azert you are dooming them to hell doing that

a true den of debauchery and sin

[sharp owl]

Its the last trick up my sleeve, I would help myself but it's 5am I need to sleep but I don't possess the ability to can

[normal lake]

took me a minute to hunt down where the fuck i got that line out of my head and jesus christ that is obscure

alestorm kek

[unborn quiver]

Wait is this real or a meme, is R2 disliked?

[idle jolt]

personally i dont have a problem with it but i kno a lot of ppl dont like it

i actually rly like some of the lvls in there

[normal lake]

just no one is playing it

most people playin r4 and r5 rn with some newbies in r1

r2 has middle child syndrome

[idle jolt]

^^^

[normal lake]

gonna be real aswell r2 is literally just harder r1

it has barely any new features or concepts which can also make it drag on a bit

[idle jolt]

personally i like how challenging it is but not a lot of other ppl do :((

[normal lake]

my problem was it just wasnt hard until d1 so i literally remember nothing about it

[idle jolt]

damn

[thick temple]

I mean, all of b tier (sort of excluding b1 ig but it has the new doors) is new objectives?
C2 is brand new to newbies
D1 is a brand new objective
D2 is a completely new version of an old objective
E1 has a new hard to deal with alarm type

I do agree r2 is kinda bland and kinda feels like it drags on too long, but it does have a lot of new stuff in it

Actually scratch a little more of the first part again
B4 is similar objective to a1, but it's the first real intro to fog imo

[normal lake]

ig but it really just lacks the interest that any rundown after it gets because lack of chargers and invis for example

the variety is very meh

[last parrot]

r2 has a lot of cool features

its just not enemies and such for the most part

[normal lake]

if it does then i dont remember any of them being cool or different kek

[thick temple]

Ay did you guys beat d2?

[last parrot]

we did not unfortunately

[normal lake]

objectives dont really make much a difference to me since most of them are basically same thing but i can see it for the alarms

[last parrot]

we moved to b2 and died to momma

[thick temple]

Aww rip
What'd they think lol

[last parrot]

shes kind of horrifying + shes kind of sexy

[normal lake]

what rundown we talkin here

[thick temple]

Lmfaoo

[last parrot]

r3b2

[thick temple]

R3

[last parrot]

the introduction

[normal lake]

gotcha

yeah thats a pretty fun level

altho its kinda weird with how its setup

[last parrot]

i like the options it gives you

[normal lake]

im going off of memory from months and months ago

and my ass might aswell have dementia

but its the level with the class 5 or class 3 at the start and class 3 has 1 cell with resources while class 5 has 2 cells no resource

[last parrot]

yeah

[normal lake]

if i even have the classes right

[last parrot]

spot on

[thick temple]

Yeah that never really... Seemed like an actual choice to me

[normal lake]

yeah i never understood why you would do the class 5

[last parrot]

(we did the class 5)

[normal lake]

the 1 cell in the class 3 was good enough

yeah we failed when we did the class 5 in our run of the map aswell multiple times mind you

then beat it first try when we did class 3 kek

[thick temple]

Why lmao

[normal lake]

see it would have been cool if there was a sec or ovl that the extra 2 cells could have been used for but ofc r3 didnt have those

instead it just left us with a choice between no resources and plenty of resources but a slightly longer level

kek i just realized that goofy ass choice is the only thing i remember about the level excluding mama

[lapis lynx]

guys who can play with me? I'm a new player and i can't find lobby or people to play with.\

[normal lake]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[normal lake]

make sure to ask for no carries as it will likely ruin the game for you

[lapis lynx]

k thx

[normal lake]

bots are fine for early levels aswell, if you have questions just awnser your own question in the wrong way in chat and someone with 2k hours will get pissed and correct you faster than if you just asked

[lapis lynx]

heh thx

[normal lake]

np gl with the whole dying thing

[lapis lynx]

im too low for these guys🥲

[normal lake]

legend says if you manage to not wake up 3 sleepers in a row you might win a level

[lapis lynx]

thats pretty hard for me

prob i will try clear with bots

[junior latch]

Quicker overall, easier cell grabs
If you plan to do ressource zone anyhow you can skip getting cell in fog zone and just rush alarm

[normal lake]

quicker overall assuming you dont fail because lack of resource later in the level

[junior latch]

theres no lack of ressources rly

[normal lake]

ok 2000 hour

[junior latch]

with it you can always freely do the ressource zone if you find you dont have enough for mom or alarm+blood door

[normal lake]

but at that point is it even a time save

[junior latch]

Theres a ton of ammo in 1st zone

yes

unless you get god cell spawns in fog zone

anyhow. I did the class 3 twice

Didnt feel as good either time

[normal lake]

we always just sent bot into fog to get cell

super easy barely a inconvenience

regardless i wasnt gonna bother with a class 5 when a class 3 was more effective overall

it atleast would make sense if there wasnt resource in class 3 than its atleast kinda a trade off

[junior latch]

Cells are the trade off

you skip a good portion of stuff for a class 2 alarm basically

[normal lake]

the extra cell isnt even worth it the level is already short as is

im not even sure i know what it skips

[junior latch]

class 5 (2 cells) means you have to do 1 extra cell hunt 75% of the time

Class 3 (1 cell) means you have to do 2 cell hunts 75% of the time

So on average its a class 2 vs either a fog zone with scout in stealth or a zone with scout and a bunch of enemies

[normal lake]

yeah id take class 3 every single time kek

even if it means stealthing in fog

but i aint a speedrunner and dont really care if the clock says 10 more minutes at the end of a map

[junior latch]

it basically means you find stealth easier and less annoying than a class 2 alarm

[normal lake]

the resources are the reason why

[junior latch]

yea again, they dont matter here

[normal lake]

consistancy is def > than time

[junior latch]

unless you somehow run out before the 2nd alarm

[normal lake]

they do because they made the difference in my games

[junior latch]

with the massive ammo that 1st zone gives you

[normal lake]

not every player is going to play extremely optimized

[junior latch]

placing 2 sentries = optimized :|

[normal lake]

just another day of a 2000 hour assuming everyone is as good as he

[junior latch]

placing sentries???

[idle jolt]

bro dont do that

thats gross

[normal lake]

if thats really what you think the only difference is then you dont play with new players ever kek

[junior latch]

like, you will have to kill more giants in the class 3 zone than the class 5 zone due to how the cells are positioned

if we go vy new player standards they will suffer even more on ammo with that

[normal lake]

either way is a giant stealth section

[junior latch]

room layouts + cell spawn matter

[unborn quiver]

Are vets killing giants much quicker with guns than newbies? They’re not hard to hit, just tanky

[normal lake]

regardless the zone with more resources is consistency which is what newbies need

not a fucking 5 minute time save

[junior latch]

Knowing what to shoot with, just meleeing them immediatly etc

[unborn quiver]

Fair point

[pine root]

also we tend to have more reasources

we just use less everywhere

[unborn quiver]

Right, so even if you use the same amount of ammo, it’s hurting you a lot less

[normal lake]

new players waste resource fucking everywhere even if its small amounts at a time it can be enough to result in not enough tool for the second alarm in the fog

and god knows shooting in fog is not something everyone can do

[pine root]

yeah just a trend

[junior latch]

Easier for them than stealthing and then probably having to shoot anyway in fog

[thick temple]

jish why are you alone muted in a vc

[unborn quiver]

Do weapons like the DMR with thermal scopes cut through the fog? Or are you just doomed to be blind?

[normal lake]

dont matter if they have no hp and no tool by the time they get to the door esspecially than having to fight ol momma but eh what do i know i only experienced that exact issue and the extreme difference between the class 5 and class 3

[thick temple]

they cut through a very small amount but not much further than eyes

[unborn quiver]

Damn, alright good to know

[normal lake]

they used to cut through it when they where introduced and it was really fucking fun

[thick temple]

they used to cut through a fair bit more but not anymore :(

[unborn quiver]

Sadge

[normal lake]

then the devs saw people using thermals how thermals are actually used and fuckin nerfed thermals into obscurity

[unborn quiver]

💀

[junior latch]

they did it because rundown 2 is/was all about fog

and because thermals invalidated fog a fair bit they nerfed the interaction

[normal lake]

still have some use but precision rifle is a seriously bad pick and pdw is a mid tier primary at best

[unborn quiver]

You don’t like the DMR with the thermal?

It felt really good aside from the low ammo to me

[thick temple]

low ammo with ridiculous reload time

[unborn quiver]

Ahhhh

[mystic moss]

oh fuck an opinion that isn't aligned with mine, time to ridicule

[junior latch]

„Mid“ haaa

[normal lake]

i like thermal sights

just the guns aint that good

pdw is my favorite full auto primary

[thick temple]

pdw is not bad

[junior latch]

also very bad dmg profile for anything but smalls

[wraith marsh]

pdw is very good

its not S tier but its not too far behind

[normal lake]

but i just cannot stand full auto so imo its mid

[unborn quiver]

Honestly the sights and reload time on the Drekker 5.55 has felt a lot better than the DMR for solo

[unborn quiver]

Sorry if this is a silly question but what exactly do you mean by this? Surely it still does boatloads of damage on headshots to big ones and spitters and all that, right?

how dare you skull react me

[normal lake]

gtfo damage system is a fucking mess

thats my response to that question

[unborn quiver]

😩

[mystic moss]

Jamie pull up the gtfo spreadsheet

[thick temple]

bigs ones
you make it sound like precision rifle is a discount sniper
it's really not lol

[normal lake]

that fucking spreadsheet gives me a migraine bro

[junior latch]

yeee no
Scouts it does kill in 1 shot, but it sucks ass vs giants

[unborn quiver]

I didn’t really mean it that way, I just meant it feels like a good long range accurate high damage companion to a more CQC high fire rate weapon

[thick temple]

in then end
use it if you like it
just also be willing to use different guns if the level seems to call for it

the special slot especially gets a lot more changes from level to level it seems to me

[unborn quiver]

I’m genuinely not arguing in favor of it, I’m just clarifying what I thought were it’s upsides

[junior latch]

regarding precision rifle (thermal) vs dmr

Dmr is a main which has a very good reload cancel. Prec rifle makes you sit through a full 3.3 seconds for 8 measily bullets

tho if you want to compare prec rifle to a special

Revolver exists

Way way lower reload time (especially when cancelled)

[normal lake]

if im correct high cal pistol damage wise has similar issues ignoring reload time

[junior latch]

huh what

[wraith marsh]

high cal

[normal lake]

not sure i just remember vaguely hearing something like that

[wraith marsh]

the better revo

(no)

(not at all)

[junior latch]

the low skill revo

[normal lake]

fuckin love the graphics on high cal and the way prisoners hold it

[wraith marsh]

I love high cal

[mystic moss]

can we collectively agree not to talk about precision rifle or bullpup for an entire day

[normal lake]

one of the best looking guns in the game

[wraith marsh]

I have not used it since they took away 30 damage

[normal lake]

didnt know it got damaged nerfed at all kek

[wraith marsh]

im excited to play more samdown cuz they basically replaced shotgun in vanillas role with high cal

[vestal crystal]

ok we can settle for spear vs knife vs bat

[normal lake]

i still use it when ttk on strikers is very important but usually i dont run it

[mystic moss]

just wake me up when there's more speedrunner drama

[unborn quiver]

Spears let me kill giants in stealth and without ammo so that’s my vote

[vestal crystal]

pump shotty in samdown is broken

[wraith marsh]

can do that with bat

[pine root]

Knife

[wraith marsh]

it got rebalanced again in todays update

[normal lake]

i always forget how ttk is actually something i gotta consider till i run a gun like high cal and am poppin heads of anything within 10 meters

[unborn quiver]

Yes but importantly will it look as cool?

[vestal crystal]

does it still do 40 damage

[wraith marsh]

I think its even better now?

it was doing 50 before

its back to 40 but the mag is back to 8 instead of 6

[normal lake]

knife 100%

[vestal crystal]

PR in samdown is also very good

16 damage

[wraith marsh]

revo is way overtuned so it doesnt matter

[mystic moss]

mfw samdown revo has precision multi and pen

[wraith marsh]

but yeah its usable in there

[normal lake]

spear is easier when your new but hammer is the king

knife is just fun because it turns the game into a fucking point and click head popping simulator with smalls