#gtfo-chat

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sharp siren
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from rundown 4 and onward

coarse grail
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even after rundown 4 some won't have side objectives though

mint light
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No, R4 forward. everything before is only main

coarse grail
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You can tell on level select what things they have

torn flicker
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ooooh, lol i was looking for them in R1 😂

mint light
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You can see it as well in the completions [1,-,-,-]

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  • means absent
charred ember
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i should phrase this better, is it possible to solo a giant with a hammer and c foam without waking the room?

coarse grail
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you can solo a big guy with a hammer and no cfoam if you want

rose nova
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u can do itw/o the foam and with enough like, skill
but its a nice way to do it too with foam if u like dont know how to i guess
u can do it w/o foam too with bots and its way easier

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the answer r the same

mint light
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otherwise it would be 1,0,0,0

torn flicker
charred ember
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what about knife thou? is it possible with c foam and knife?

rose nova
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... probs wont give u time

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to kill it while foam is freezin it

coarse grail
analog flicker
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Knife can kill giants. With enough hits. But not fast enough

mint light
charred ember
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ah okay, then i would just piss off the whole room if i do that

rose nova
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probs, or use all ur foam

torn flicker
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aslong as you obliterate one of his 4 limbs torso or head he gets stunlocked

rose nova
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or get slapped

analog flicker
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British can do more and faster

torn flicker
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make sure every time you attack you go for a breakable part

mint light
charred ember
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so its possible but its impractical

torn flicker
coarse grail
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think you'd need to stab it about 10 times in the back if you do it right

rose nova
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itll also help with scouts

charred ember
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yeah scout is a headache

analog flicker
charred ember
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but scout less of a headache now that i learn i can cfoam it

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and it dont even know im there

rose nova
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u can also just bonk it with a hammer or a spear in the head

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w/o foam

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is a bit, harder

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but very possible

torn flicker
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Alpha 1 scout was ❤️ lmfao

rose nova
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and it only needs practice

torn flicker
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it just had to exist and it triggered

analog flicker
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You mean when majority people thought sniper was the only gun that could one-shot scouts

torn flicker
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Yeah

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and the feeler timer was off and the hitbox was problable twice as big

analog flicker
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They would get so scared if you attempted revolver/shotgun scout kills back then lol

sharp siren
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but only sniper did apparently

torn flicker
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scouts are easy to melee if they are solo

sharp siren
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good times

analog flicker
torn flicker
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i used to be so scared of them xD

analog flicker
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And that hammer used to 1 tap striker occi

torn flicker
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back then we couldn't do R1's first reactor level with 3 players and hours of training for the same mission

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now i could do it with duo lol

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i wonder how much they changed enemy hp, spawnrates n stuff

rose nova
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i mean im sure u could people just didnt know u could kite

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infinitely

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until like, later rundowns

analog flicker
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Shotgun sentries were busted back then if you knew about it.

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R1 was basically shotgun sentry bug

torn flicker
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no we honestly couldn't win! all of us ran burst sentry xD They rushed past our defenses immediately and we had such a small amount of ammo and toolkits we just couldn't manage

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if anything i got worse at the game and i still beat the level now xD

rose nova
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i mean burst sentry was bad back then tho

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like, really bad compared to shotgun sentry

analog flicker
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To be fair

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Newcomers are still struggling with r1c1 today

torn flicker
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i had ppl in this discord help me out with my strat this time around tho

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2 burts 1 sniper sentry

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all i needed to hear

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haha it is a hard map for newcommers but im still a newcommer myself! i stopped in 2019 after that level

rose nova
torn flicker
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and i came back to complete it in 2023 😂

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yeah alot of ppl could do it duo back then

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but without knowledge of the shotgun turrets and us just trying to exist it sure was harder back then xD

mint light
analog flicker
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If anything. R1c1 just has a added enemy.

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That wasn't in it before

coral tartan
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Is that the reactor one?

analog flicker
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yes

coral tartan
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Ah yeah, the elevated platform is my fav position there, but I dunno meta choices for it really

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Sniper and shotgun sentries worked well enough though

analog flicker
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Not the best choices but it can work

mint light
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That's basically it

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Hold bridge.

analog flicker
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Meta choices would be 4 Bursts/2 burst-1 sniper-bio
Some newer players would probably do 3 burst 1 bio

mint light
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That's the meta way

coral tartan
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I think we had 2 sniper, 1 shotgun, 1 scanner

analog flicker
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Some people struggle seeing/tracking enemies without the dorito ping

mint light
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And then you do first 3 waves with just 1 sentry

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Put down others on wave 3/4

analog flicker
coral tartan
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The bridge is pretty bright, from the elevated spot you get a good outline

analog flicker
mint light
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But yeah it can work obv

analog flicker
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I miss when forklift was the best defense spot

mint light
coral tartan
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The cover there seemed sufficient, I was also running DMR and another on the team had sniper and we took out anything ranged pretty quick

mint light
analog flicker
mint light
analog flicker
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Who said I used it

mint light
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👍

ivory pier
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its morally incorrect to save the run

coarse grail
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carrying is toxic

mint light
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Tbf there's enough tool for all 3 sentries down at start as well. you'll just have to be tighter on distribution

mint light
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that's why I do it

coarse grail
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If you are a veteran player you should dumb yourself down to the level of the next most experienced player

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The problem is if several veteran players are in the same lobby it makes a kind of downward spiral

mint light
coarse grail
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Thats how speedrunning teams are formed PirateSimon

burnt flume
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People speedrun in teams? I just got spurred on by hatred of myself, the level I ran, and logs

mint light
ivory pier
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no trauma dumping in rp-chat

mint light
burnt flume
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Oh christ why did you have to remind me of that harrowing place

whole plaza
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Hello. Since no one have noticed my message on LFG , though I would try on general . Anyone polish speaking looking for a run ?

little ridge
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So now I just place my sniper sentry and ignore what the others do

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It's pointlessly sad sometimes

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"Ehi can you move that sentry further down so it doesn't risk shooting the same target as mine?"

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No answer or some guy saying that's how he did it before or whatever fucking made up stuff they have as a rule that purely works in their own mind

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It's pointless so I just place shit and mind my business unless someone explicitly asks

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I've said that before and I'll say it again: People only learn if they want to

junior latch
surreal plaza
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real quick what tools should i equip myself and my 3 bots for the best chance of survival

coarse grail
surreal plaza
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also i always give them burst rifle + either of the techman mgs that's a good bot loadout right

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and the hammer

rose nova
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yeah those guns r the best for bots, normally with higher dmg weapons they r bad cause they either shoot from very afar ot fail the weakpoints

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and yeah hammer is good, they behave the same with all melee weapons so u can leave em on that

surreal plaza
coral tartan
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I thought bots always do the same damage regardless of melee weapon

rose nova
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yeah thats what i said :]

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they behave the same way

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it has the same values n stuff

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i guess i said it wrong

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im sorryyy

latent palm
proven steppe
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Anypoint to put Sentry guns up the elevated position

rose nova
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u mean like, at what points would we put a sentry in an elevated place?
depends on the level but for the most part like, never

wispy bluff
little ridge
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I do it because it's kino

proven steppe
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It look great but it doesn’t seem great in terms of killing

wispy bluff
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Yeah, that alright. I think shotgun sentry gets a better hit angle with that (it aims for head)

proven steppe
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Like it ignore body part

wispy bluff
analog flicker
dense bay
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do u use a regular shotgun or

analog flicker
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Shotgun sentry*

dense bay
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I wouldn't use it

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I'd use burst

rose nova
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is ok on corners n such

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smol range

wispy bluff
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Shotgun S is pretty strong at holding corners under bioping. There are some mean spots for it on certain levels.

analog flicker
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Shotgun sentry imo is just a softener

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Otherwise it's a tool burner

subtle bloom
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new gtfo reddit sub when?

jade iron
swift wyvern
rose nova
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im pretty sure nope

swift wyvern
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Angie

rose nova
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they do the same thing with all of em

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i think the only change

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is that with spear they dont run :]

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but i need to test

swift wyvern
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Unhelpful in every other situation

rose nova
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no, no is unhelpful everywhere

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if u want em to not go to bigs

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shoot em

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or stagger em

knotty bobcat
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Machine Pistol
Yay or Nay?
Why?

swift wyvern
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Damage stinky

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Killing enemies with damage > staggering enemies with no damage

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Why stagger when you can remove their existence

rose nova
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for me is yay

rose nova
swift wyvern
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Wtf is the machine pistol then

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Am I dumb

knotty bobcat
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Machine Pistol don't got stagger.
And the dps ain't that bad.
Machine Pistol has some insane ammo

knotty bobcat
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Ah, Thanks

rose nova
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i just wrote that 7 minutes ago :D

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no worrrries'

swift wyvern
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Machine pistol is good if you can't land shots

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I know which one you mean now

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It's shots to kill is very high D:

rose nova
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but it kills super fast

modern coral
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Between lots of stagger but no damage and some damage but no stagger, AP is probably better.

rose nova
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not, really

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at least with machinep u kill things, and very fast

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and the reload is 0.01 seconds

modern coral
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You do not kill anything quickly with MP.

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Most strong Mains have superior TTK.

junior latch
junior latch
rose nova
wraith marsh
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try pdw with reload cancel

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trust me

rose nova
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no :]

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i did

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is ok

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and cool

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and probs superior

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but i dont like reusin the same gun always

junior latch
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:^ )

sharp owl
swift wyvern
sharp owl
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spear affects their movement?

rose nova
sharp owl
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well if u wanna keep taking Ls then pick machine pistol

modern coral
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Usually build variety for me is playing different Specials, and then my Main follows naturally from there.

wraith marsh
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same

sharp owl
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thats a fair assessment

wraith marsh
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I dont normally care that much about using the same weapon repeatedly cuz I mainly just enjoy melee

junior latch
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also what do you expect me to pick in a run :^ ) a F tier pick?

knotty bobcat
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Main and Specials bleed over one another a bunch,
The special is either giant killing or the same cover as the main
so i just pick guns based on range instead

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Maybe a long range + short range so i'm flexible and can whip out the short range if I get surrounded or in deep shxt
long range + long range so I can hang behind a sentry or my squad and take out key targets (shooters, bigs)
or short range + short range and just go balls to the wall aggressive

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Also feel like having atleast 1 guy on your team that can insta-gib a scout is pretty necesarry

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More so instead of picking weapons on what role they fill
I just pick the secondary based on what my primary is lacking

if I'm using the DMR. A combat shotgun or Machine gun secondary would be nice incase I get in scramble where the DMR's slow RoF just won't help me, and the secondary can be whipped out to deal with the immediate threats

gaunt inlet
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I have become sawed-off/High Caliber enthusiast.

knotty bobcat
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Sounds about right

pine root
knotty bobcat
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That's exactly what i said?

vestal crystal
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i just hold medipacks out

pine root
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Nvm I didn’t see it

knotty bobcat
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DMR with combat shotgun

junior latch
pine root
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Mainly comes down to focus

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And if you are low Econ play

knotty bobcat
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I feel like DMR just thrives at taking off Shooters that hang back
or picking off strikers that diverge from the main group
That way my team can focus on the big group of enemies and not have to worry about the ones running off to the sides

pine root
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That is why it is support you just hit shooters is enough

knotty bobcat
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Yeah at first I thought shooters were a low priority threat since they're

  1. easy to dodge
  2. do little dmg

but when there's a few of them, having to worry about dodging, or getting hit and having flinch. Really throws you off killing the smaller damaging enemies

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We learned that the hard way when we all went short range guns and had noone to really take care of the 5 or so shooters in the back just constantly peppering us

pine root
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There is just no other really insane primary for shooters tbh

knotty bobcat
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Rifle works fine. but DMRs 1 shot makes it superior

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Burst Rifle is nice too. Since it 1 bursts the shooters iirc

mystic moss
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let's all collectively forget about the dtr

pine root
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Yeah

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Like we fucking should

knotty bobcat
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My friend's been liking the double tap rifle for shooters

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since its also a 1 burst

junior latch
knotty bobcat
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also

DMR's scope is fucking weird

pine root
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Ehh

knotty bobcat
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It feels off.

Like the shot isn't going where the reticle is. but when I shoot a wall, it's pin-point accurate. Idk what's up with it.
Maybe the scope is just a bit cluttered-

pine root
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Just mod in a better recital

knotty bobcat
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😱

mystic moss
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Words are hard

knotty bobcat
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M-m-m-m-m-mod?!?!?!!

pine root
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Wait till you learn that fov makes hip fire indicators incorrect

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So cool

knotty bobcat
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Oh neat.

mystic moss
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game is balanced around 55 fov 😔

pine root
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Yup crazy

knotty bobcat
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My fov is 100

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i think

junior latch
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100 fov superiority

knotty bobcat
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That's atleast what I default to on everything I play

pine root
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120 is technically the best

junior latch
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theres actual fish eye at that point

knotty bobcat
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Yeah but I just don't like the fish eye feel at the edge of the screen
Stuff zooms by too quickly

pine root
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But you get 10 mores degrees of shoot rezing

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Unplayable without it

knotty bobcat
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I'll survive

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👴

pine root
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Until you have a 3 down and one is next to the wall

knotty bobcat
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I'd always recommend going 90 fov at the very minimum. But anything above 90 is personal preference

You can sit there and say that 120 Fov is superior because you see the most. But if you don't like 120 Fov. Or find that things look too small and move too quickly at the edge of the screen. Go down.
Get to whatever fov you're comfy with (so long it's not under 90)

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There's also the weird effect where a higher fov makes me feel ''taller'' because I see more of the ground below me

wraith marsh
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I hate this game

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whys it gotta be vert based fov

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everyone gets the wrong notion

knotty bobcat
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Oh yeah I also just hit 100 hours in the game

craggy jolt
knotty bobcat
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Still not past R3 because new friends keep joining GTFO and we keep having to restart from R1 because we want to go from R1 and further like a ''linear campaign''

wraith marsh
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yh

knotty bobcat
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At this point I probably would've been mid-way through R5. but instead I'm here playing R1 for the 5th time

craggy jolt
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I was stuck on R2C2 for a while.

sharp owl
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r4 is hard to some extent

knotty bobcat
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Atleast I can do R1A1 in like, 10 minutes now

craggy jolt
craggy jolt
knotty bobcat
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What's the world record for completing R1A1?
It's gotta be something like 2 minutes

craggy jolt
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Impossible to do in 2 minutes, ain’t no way.

mystic moss
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2m16??

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definitely sub 3

pine root
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2:16

knotty bobcat
pine root
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G key b hsu required

knotty bobcat
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Atleast repeating myself over and over and asnwering ''what gun should I use'' has made me re-collect and re-think multiple times of I view the game balance

pine root
thick temple
pine root
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Just go into free play

pine root
craggy jolt
pine root
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Like 2:10 at best

knotty bobcat
craggy jolt
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Ah, he didn’t do training.

knotty bobcat
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Tried explaining how the sleepers ''seek'' and ''see'' you. He just quit and didnt wanna play anymore

pine root
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Helps on your skills

craggy jolt
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I did training as soon as I got this game lmao, and it got me pretty far.

junior latch
knotty bobcat
knotty bobcat
craggy jolt
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There is, it shows on the side of the rundown menu.

junior latch
wraith marsh
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we need to throw more intermediate players into gtfo_pro

robust gull
pine root
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Mb

wraith marsh
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this will be good for the game

pine root
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I don’t know the time

junior latch
craggy jolt
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Jesus, some sweaty people out there lmao.

pine root
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It isnt sweaty

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It is rng

junior latch
knotty bobcat
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I still dont know how to dodge a giant's tongue
I've resorted to just forcing him to stagger rather than trying to dodge (Unless I got cover)

I can somewhat dodge small tongue attacks tho

craggy jolt
knotty bobcat
craggy jolt
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I ain’t dissing.

robust gull
knotty bobcat
junior latch
craggy jolt
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Lmao.

knotty bobcat
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Ping issue? Idk

pine root
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Sometimes a is the incorrect direction vox

junior latch
craggy jolt
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I get it.

burnt flume
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I feel like I remember it

junior latch
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yep

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joined, did the clear, left

No voice call. Was funny

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god damn h key

robust gull
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imagine if gtfo had infighting like doom does

knotty bobcat
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Would be extemely weird since everything is a sleeper

craggy jolt
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Everything except scouts anyways.

knotty bobcat
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Scouts are also sleepers?

craggy jolt
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But they’re moving, wouldn’t that technically make ‘em awake?

craggy jolt
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I don’t think a sleeper walks lmao.

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Except when awake.

knotty bobcat
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Sleeper is just the name for the zombo

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Besides they can be Sleep walking :)

craggy jolt
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I just call ‘em “little shits.”

knotty bobcat
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The scout has to feel you with the noodles
but once it's felt you, and its ''awake''. It doesn't have to do that anymore. So it's clearly awake and properly ''seeing you''

craggy jolt
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But technically it’s still awake tho, it’s just blind and deaf.

knotty bobcat
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Dunno how the enemies even see us in-game
Do they just ''sense'' us?
Heartbeat? Heat? Some photo reseptive skin?

craggy jolt
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Oh yeah.

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Forgot they can hear to an extent.

pine root
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It is apparently in the data blocks called that

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Breathing sounds 1.4 or something

knotty bobcat
craggy jolt
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But sprint and they’ll just shoot their tentacles out.

knotty bobcat
craggy jolt
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So like I said, to an extent.

knotty bobcat
pine root
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Not exactly code more like just really big Java objects

craggy jolt
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No, that’s part of getting a scout with a sledgie.

knotty bobcat
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oh
I've just been walking up to them this entire time

craggy jolt
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You wait until they are walking, sprint with sledge charged, and BONK.

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Simple, easy, effective.

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Except when there are eleven others in the room lmao.

robust gull
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just silent shoot all scouts

knotty bobcat
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Granted if you can isolate them, I guess you could still do the same

pine root
craggy jolt
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If they’re alone tho, it’s easy as pie.

knotty bobcat
pine root
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Only melee scout when it is a double melee

craggy jolt
robust gull
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jish lead the ted talk on silent shooting

pine root
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Yup

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That is one method

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There is a few more

knotty bobcat
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That sounds like an exploit

wispy bluff
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Cheeese

pine root
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Ehhh

craggy jolt
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It’ll probs be patched sooner or later.

robust gull
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nope

burnt flume
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haha, you fuckin wish

pine root
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One of them can’t be patched

robust gull
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game is spaghetti monster

wispy bluff
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🧀

pine root
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Unless you change a lot of back end stuff

knotty bobcat
robust gull
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fuck i think it's like near impossible to beat a level without benefitting from a glitch/exploit because there's just so many of them

burnt flume
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Be client
Fire gun
Immediately shove after firing

quartz cape
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beat e1 to unlock silencer

knotty bobcat
burnt flume
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if you do it correctly, you have just done a silent shot

wispy bluff
pine root
knotty bobcat
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Ping dependent too
Now it's sounding even more like an exploit xd

pine root
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If you are on high enough ping all shoots are silent shot

wispy bluff
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Although some enemies will still wake up when you open the door. It's weird.

pine root
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Nothing you can do about it

sharp owl
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more often than not, host will do it perfectly every time unless you have bad aim

robust gull
craggy jolt
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So basically find a player half way across the world and have ‘em on your team for hi ping.

pine root
knotty bobcat
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My friend plays with 200 ping

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I wonder if he's constantly silent shooting then

pine root
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Yeah they probably have silent shot just don’t know it

knotty bobcat
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Now I kinda wanna test that out, have him shoot a scout in a room filled with sleepers

mystic moss
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you only do it unintentionally if you're constantly quick swapping

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other than that, no

craggy jolt
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I have some Aus bros, didn’t know they could silent shoot this whole time lmao.

pine root
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Like shoot twice then swap and get it

robust gull
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do we even categorize reload cancels as glitches?

craggy jolt
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That’s more like a norm honestly.

pine root
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Depends who you ask

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No tho

crisp ore
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that shit is in most fps

robust gull
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funnily enough the guns that could benefit the most from reload cancelling cannot reload cancel

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SAWED OFF.

craggy jolt
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Lmao

robust gull
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bull pup too if i recall

crisp ore
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industry standard are this point

pine root
pine root
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They aren’t solid

wispy bluff
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The fact that some guns do it and others don't tells you everything you need to know

craggy jolt
pine root
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Na they just see the sleeper and kill then through door

sharp owl
knotty bobcat
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Reload Cancels are nearly almost intentional by the devs.

If they didn't want us to reload cancel, they could just add a timer that'll hard force the ammo count to -only- be updated after x amount of time has passed since the reload started

Technically that's already in the game by some means. Since the devs must've had some form of delay when reloading to when you get the ammo.
I'm not 100% fluent in the coding of this stuff tho

wispy bluff
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If gods wanted you to reload in 0,5 of a second - they would give you a 0,5 animation

pine root
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But they don’t

knotty bobcat
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I dont remember what the game was.
I played some shitty early access tha thad the gun get ammo the instant you pushed reload
So you could press R, instantly reload, then just animation cancel and enjoy a 0.00001 reload time.

pine root
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Heat bug moments

robust gull
pine root
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Based

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Jish++

quartz cape
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dont encourage him

knotty bobcat
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Most games operate on some Delay between pressing R and ammo gained, that is entirely independent of the animation
All they really have to do to get rid of animation cancelling. Is just match that delay to the animation. Iirc

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Atleast CoD does that.

robust gull
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We don't call it abortions we call it "patching code"

knotty bobcat
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BO4 I believe had a patch where they upped that delay timer so guns wasnt as easily reload cancelled.

robust gull
knotty bobcat
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It fucked me over multiple times cuz I was used to the reload cancels. So I was always cancelling too early and losing ammo

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Annoyed alot of people cuz the guns always had a ''click'' when the mag was put in, and thus at that click you could animation cancel
After the patch the actual cancel was like 0.2 seconds behind that click.

vestal crystal
sharp owl
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do it enough times and you'll start feeling it

knotty bobcat
#

The devs are clearly aware of the cancels.

vestal crystal
#

it could not be intentional. i wouldnt be surprised if none of the devs or testers, or very very few of them do reload cancelling

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clearly they dont play in a way where they noticed sniper melee

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aka using movement

sharp owl
pine root
#

Who gives a fuck if it is intentional

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My god

knotty bobcat
#

If you're a tester and you don't test the most basic fucking Animation Cancel that's found in 99.9% of fps games. Stop being a tester lol

robust gull
#

Reminder that flashlights are intended to be a balance point.

knotty bobcat
craggy jolt
#

Nothing to get mad over lmao.

knotty bobcat
quartz cape
robust gull
#

True

wraith marsh
#

hel rifle good

craggy jolt
#

I always used Köning, never tried the Hel Rifle.

knotty bobcat
#

I also find the long range flashlight not that good because the flash cone is so wide.
Its hard to both see the room, and not light up every sleeper in the room
With a narrow flash cone you can map out the room, or look at something specific (like a popper next to an enemy you wanna hit)

vestal crystal
#

pls do not ever type that name out again, with the umlaut as well

pine root
#

Remember the knife isn’t supposed to be able to kill scouts. It is a bug

wispy bluff
#

Less headshot damage, more bullets, penetrates

pine root
#

Yeah those are the devs intentions man

craggy jolt
#

Köning.

knotty bobcat
pine root
#

Sure

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mad is the word I would use

robust gull
#

I think the knife could have a niche use. I should be able to slit my wrists at low health to make my team rez me at 20

craggy jolt
#

A better word I mean.

pine root
#

Ehh

knotty bobcat
#

From what I can tell the knife does 99 dmg to a Scout's occupit

junior latch
craggy jolt
#

Spell it with me.

#

#

Ning

quartz cape
robust gull
knotty bobcat
craggy jolt
#

Lmao

wraith marsh
#

you dont get sleeping damage on scouts

pine root
#

It doesn’t get sleeping

knotty bobcat
#

Oooh

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49.5 then

serene berry
#

good thing bat gets sleeping bonus on scout

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thank god for bat

knotty bobcat
#

:^)

wraith marsh
#

so true

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I love my bat sleeping bonus

quartz cape
#

backstabber multi (real)

knotty bobcat
#

So that means scouts are technically actually awake

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but they can't sense you until they feel you with the noodles, but once they feel you they can sense you?
That's.. odd.

craggy jolt
#

Then they can’t possibly be asleep.

quartz cape
#

almost like no thought went into it at all

dense bay
#

I did it solo r1a1

craggy jolt
#

If they’re aware, moving around, and sprouting tentacles, then they are conscious therefore awake.

knotty bobcat
serene berry
#

but they can't sense you until they feel you with the noodles,

thats why they don't wale up from screams from other sleepers

craggy jolt
#

Agreed.

vestal crystal
#

Explain that

dense bay
#

I hate scouts

craggy jolt
#

Scouts do suck.

robust gull
serene berry
#

they are awake, but not woke

craggy jolt
#

They’re awake, but blind.

knotty bobcat
dense bay
wraith marsh
#

they sense sleepers dying

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they sense them waking up

knotty bobcat
craggy jolt
#

I sprint at ‘em with sledge when they are walking.

dense bay
#

Definitely not hammer

wraith marsh
#

they sense you sprinting

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its just all really short range

knotty bobcat
#

I feel like they ''hear'' more than they sense you sprint, or sense others dying

craggy jolt
knotty bobcat
#

Are there logs that explain how the sleepers functions in detail or is it all hearsay and trying to theorize game logic?

pine root
wraith marsh
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

knotty bobcat
#

Lmao

serene berry
#

they don't wake up from gunshots if the bullets don't touch the tentacles

knotty bobcat
#

MMmmmm yes

craggy jolt
#

They won’t wake up at all if I dome ‘em with sledge or sniper.

knotty bobcat
#

Better yet
Shove a choke mod up their ass

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Fuck Scouts
Scouts are not friends

serene berry
#

good for them

knotty bobcat
#

Gotta make sure all pellets hit

serene berry
#

for maximum Scout Preggers

knotty bobcat
analog flicker
#

Teammates: report. He spawned a mother

latent palm
analog flicker
latent palm
rough robin
#

I feel like if scouts looked more visually different you could excuse their different methods of finding you as some evolutionary thing

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but they're just 1.2x scale spitty boys

rough robin
#

I don't know, their model should be more designed around their tendrils instead of them just clipping through the scout's head/body

wispy bluff
#

Too much work

rough robin
#

cause right now they just look like shooters but a little bigger

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or charger scouts, that are just 'chargers but a little bigger'

wispy bluff
#

Hm, are they? I swear they had a unique head

rough robin
#

i think it's just sized up more than the rest of their body

grizzled bison
#

Shadow scouts are different :^)

robust gull
#

I pray r8 doesn't spam stuff to inflate difficulty

serene berry
robust gull
#

That sounds vague enough to accuse anything i dislike but a great example is r7c3 spamming charger scouts and giants. It's just tedious and time consuming. Love the overload and the timed part though

serene berry
#

it is a genuinely difficult thread to make the stealth in this game difficult without being tedious or impossible. i think it is core mechanics fault

wicked solstice
#

Red light - green light isn’t very flexible tbh

robust gull
#

I agree with that notion

wicked solstice
#

The most interactive it gets is flashing enemies

robust gull
#

It gets less flexible when enemy variety is just adding big and scout variant

serene berry
#

the cautious move of taking your hands off the controls being a really boring floor to work with in an interactive medium

robust gull
#

Not much to test mastery. Even worse considering you're punished for not killing.

pine root
robust gull
#

Even payday punishes for killing by adding new guards so it's not black and white

analog flicker
wicked solstice
#

Wait

analog flicker
#

Shadows reworked to only be visible under black light

robust gull
#

isnt that the light that sees nut

analog flicker
robust gull
analog flicker
rose nova
#

tbh i dont think c3 difficulty isnt quite just spammin enemies, is making u dealing with em in a way a bit out of the box, it punishes you for tryin to be too freely with your movements because it assumes u have learnt to sneak and so it throws a curveball by not lettin u wake up the room and just goin on guns and meleeing; the level gives u foam things and syringes so you have everything you need to sneak through including things for the scouts, and so make it that when they activate its not cause many enemies or somethin, is cause u didnt foam an enemy in time or were too careless and woke up the room while tryin to kill the hybrid in the corner

wraith marsh
#

c3 is as tedious as you make it

rose nova
#

the part after the main bulkhead does become more rng and i do think thats just, not needed u dont need 70 bigs, but even so the idea is the same, maybe freezing many enemies at once communicatin with ur team, freezin one killing one and then going back for the foamed one, all that kinda stuff, and evwrything w/o toold and guns so u dont feel safe

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and thats it its about 8 rooms only not counting extreme

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it takes time but its only half the level and after the uplink it gives it a twist by putting a timer on your pathing

serene berry
#

this mission, like almost every other mission, is suggesting you slow down but rewarding you for (being good at) going fast. and the armory run is proof of that.

#

get comfy and fast melee-ing bigs.

#

or else

#

the level has one too many optionals and shouldn't be a PE imo, but thats a small note

sharp owl
#

Its great that it has a pe

#

Otherwise its boring and fast

serene berry
#

eh

sharp owl
#

If you remove secondary then main is boring
If you remove ovl the main is even more boring

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prolly top 3 balanced pe imo

serene berry
#

hmm removing secondary makes main faster, i think thats an improvement.

#

imo the gimmick should be used more often

turbid stag
#

is the precision rifle any good? i've been enjoying it though have heard it isnt that good actually?

serene berry
#

and we get the variety in that way

sharp owl
#

Yeha but keep in mind that ovl makes main easier so having shadows balances it out

serene berry
serene berry
sharp owl
serene berry
#

but it ain't a sniper, and there are 3? better pistols

turbid stag
serene berry
turbid stag
#

been using heavy smg, as it had nice amount of ammo; also precision rifle for long range also thermal kinda helps but i suppose not needed also

rose nova
#

usually u can whatevs u want and be ok with it

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as long as ur team backs u up

sharp owl
#

Id say pdw ar carbine for primary
Heavy assault rifle veruta machine gun combat shotgun and maybe high cal

rose nova
#

usual 'meta' is hel revo carbine and pdw

#

ew high cal- but

#

u can just

#

pick whatevs u want really

turbid stag
#

pdw is thermal main right

rose nova
#

id just say choose every weapon at least a couple times

#

yeah

turbid stag
#

it really is 'hard to use' lol

#

wasnt fun spraying if stuff leaks or big wave

rose nova
#

pretty funky aimin down sights, but its got nice hipfire :]

sharp owl
turbid stag
#

a question for shotguns in special

#

what is for what exactly? as i havent tried any

#

choke mod one is i suppose highest damage?

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and combat is for waves?

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as it is auto

rose nova
#

um kinda, normal shottie cjoke mod have the same dmg, they r really powerful and can deal with big enemies fast, and also oneshot smols

sharp owl
#

Choke is long range, good for fighting at a distance
Combat close range, good VS smalls can 1 tap headshot

rose nova
#

combat shottie yeah its more to headshot smols, it oneshots em with a headshot too, but it doesnt have the same dmg as the others

#

and yeah chokemod has, very long range

serene berry
sharp owl
#

Its the only redeeming quality really
All pistols are better than pr

rose nova
#

i use it from time to time cause is funny

sharp owl
#

The only lvls I would take pr is r4e1 and r7e1

rose nova
#

i took it to r4a2 cause i wanted somethin to deal with the scouts

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and it did, well cause most of em were 70 meters away

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and the bots defended me :3

sharp owl
#

Remind me what r4a2 is

serene berry
#

i don't consider something it has in common with its contemporaries a redeeming quality, it just is a sign that specials are good in general

rose nova
#

um overload ||error alarm with terminal command|| and secondary ||HSU||

#

ah well and main cryos

sharp owl
#

Oh that one sucks

rose nova
#

no its fun as hell!

#

:[

serene berry
#

v much like A3 pe, secondary error comes in immediatly, but after that its similar

#

R5A2 pe is a wonderful 15 minute romp, that one is a blast

rose nova
#

:D

#

hell yeah

sharp owl
rose nova
#

u go in u kill some stuff u go out

sharp owl
rose nova
#

i think its cool :]

serene berry
sharp owl
#

Eh you do you

sharp owl
#

Tho shadow scouts are easy to melee

serene berry
serene berry
signal plaza
#

PR be kinda bad tho

#

give PR more clip size 10c

serene berry
signal plaza
#

either that or more base damage so it can at least two shot chargers

rose nova
#

yeah pr is bad but still very much usable

#

and like has it uses

signal plaza
#

it has terrible breakpoints tho

#

it is worse than revolver in most ways and revolver is not great in and of itself

white raptor
#

So PR pre R1 nerfs?

timber stump
#

i bought gtfo like 20 minutes ago. Rundown 1 anyone?

signal plaza
#

PR should deal 100 base damage with a 4.00 precision multiplier, fire full auto at 1200rpm and get 40 ammo per clip

#

like a buffed bullpup

#

obviously

signal plaza
#

oh also give it a 1.4 second reload while you’re at it

wispy bluff
#

I think just buffing its damage to 15 will be fine

foggy plankBOT
wispy bluff
#

it'll become hel gun without the pen and extra damage on headshots

serene berry
wispy bluff
#

assuming we dont touch mag size that's 8 dead smalls, 4 dead chargers, and apparently 2 dead hybrids if Chill's calculations are correct

#

I think that would be a gun worth bringing. Maybe.

#

Like a sniper rifle lite

sharp owl
#

That could work

wispy bluff
#

I still wonder why on earth it has a full auto feature

white raptor
sharp owl
#

And +2 magsize to compensate for the reload

#

Or just make it better

wispy bluff
#

i'm like 90% certain they wanted to make it some sort of full auto precision hunter, like more refined brother to HAR

#

But probably got desilussioned with the fact that if you combined it with PDW you would basically just bring 2 of the same guns, just one hits harder

#

A word "boring" was probably used... And now we have this.

thick temple
#

i honestly never really understood why pr is auto

sharp owl
#

We'll see if they do anything about it in r6

thick temple
#

people have been saying it's shit ever since it's mag was nerfed
some were saying it even before its mag was nerfed

edgy kraken
#

first time i use bots they fall into the void and die

thick temple
#

and yet
here we are

wispy bluff
#

And now we don't even have that. Urgh.

white raptor
#

to be fair to the PR it is a good gun, it just has a very specific use.

sharp owl
#

Too specific other specials do lot more

#

A revolver does way better

wispy bluff
#

revo doesn't have a thermal though

#

but then again veterans don't give a shit anyway

edgy kraken
wispy bluff
#

they probably can spidey sense shadows at this point

thick temple
#

thermals seem nice
but are kinda
less nice than i feel like they seem like they would be

sharp owl
thick temple
#

they're very nice for shadows, that much it does have

edgy kraken
robust gull
#

i think the problem isn't pr being shit exactly, but that other specials are such roided up contenders

robust gull
#

it is underperforming make no mistake but like, how many veruta buffs do we need

#

god DAMN

sharp owl
wispy bluff
#

I tried using veruta again like a week ago

wispy bluff
#

recoil still mega cringe, i'm gonna stick to arbalist

edgy kraken
sharp owl
#

Oof

edgy kraken
#

me and my buddy just started new game

robust gull
#

skin crawler

#

YUCK

white raptor
#

As long as they don't touch HEL AP im happy

sharp owl
wispy bluff
#

it wiggles too much, disorients me

#

and that goddamn spying glass of a scope isn't helping

#

arbalist is smooth heaven compared to that

sharp owl
#

I use veruta most of the time it's fkn doooope

robust gull
#

i started using heavy assault rifle because i miss it as a main

#

it's like if i had a girlfriend with dementia and she doesn't remember me

#

(ingame)

#

i look at it longingly knowing things will never be the same again

#

and veruta is like that jealous ex

#

taking advantage of me

#

at my lowest point

#

by overgiving to my needs

#

again i stress the (ingame)

#

because gtfo players are incapable of emotionally stable relationships

#

(irl)

#

and after a match i just sit up at the bedside

#

with my head buried into my hands

sharp owl
#

ugh

robust gull
#

ingame

sharp owl
#

trauma dump?

robust gull
#

no not at all these are unchartered waters

#

look at me homie you think i really have a gf?

#

get real, like dr phil would say

#

😎 🫃 👨‍🦽

sharp owl
#

ill pay for your therapy (i wont) seek help now

robust gull
wispy bluff
#

I want to love HAR since its my type of gun, but it just feels wrong

#

it always has 1 less magazine than you expect

sharp owl
#

1 mag is almost 25%

#

or more

#

some one r/theydidthemath

wraith marsh
#

its only 20

sharp owl
sharp owl
robust gull
sharp owl
rose nova
#

lmao

#

thats

#

tbh thats is pretty hot like people in very hot zones r at 40 41

#

and thats just 5 away

robust gull
#

but we just roll with it

#

thanks global warming

rose nova
sharp owl
#

where u live?

rose nova
#

mexico

#

:^

#

normally we are at 33 34 but ive been in cities and beaches were its 38 39

#

40

sharp owl
#

all time high of 56

#

and you call 40 hot

normal lake
#

unless this is in fahrenheit

sharp owl
#

no its in C

normal lake
#

i find it hard to believe its getting that hot up in canada

robust gull
#

it is

rose nova
#

wheaters dyin

robust gull
#

not super frequently or anything, but just enough to be brought up

normal lake
#

the thing is thats how hot arizona is right now and they have death valley

robust gull
#

also are taking humidity into account?

normal lake
#

yeah heat index and actual temperature are different

#

i can see it if we are talking heat index

robust gull
#

i think we only hit 35 on heatwaves

#

wait i might just be wrong.

#

let me look into actual numbers because now im curious

#

i might've just been misremembering numbers

signal plaza
#

35 C can be really uncomfortable

#

especially w high humidity like here in the netherlands

#

it feels gross

#

very intense

normal lake
#

i checked we peaked at 46 C this week and it seems to be dropping from there

signal plaza
#

the whole of europe is freaking tf out rn

#

in terms of heat

#

apart from the netherlands

normal lake
#

kek pov your continent doesnt have ac for some damn reason

signal plaza
#

I spotted temps of 25 C in northern norway

#

above the polar circle

#

that’s insane

normal lake
#

yeah el nino even aint fuckin around

signal plaza
#

yep

#

anyways

#

meanwhile it’s a comfy 22-24 C out here in netherlands

#

hehe

#

skill issue

normal lake
#

im not really bothered by the heat personally

#

grew up with summers this hot every year and spent most of them outside

rose nova
#

i just noticed

#

the pdw has a lil like ziptie holdin the cables of the thermal together

#

bro

#

BRO THIS GAME

#

i adore it so bad

serene berry
#

bahah that is very cute

stuck timber
#

gents

#

109775244006566227

#

one open, we are 3 noob losers

rose nova
rose nova
#

.t lfg

foggy plankBOT
rose nova
#

just some advice!
always ask to not be carried and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel

and if you are new be sure to do the tutorial first [Training] and start on rundown 1 since its the simplest one

stuck timber
#

thanks brodah

rose nova
#

no worriiiiies :3

sharp owl
#

Can anyone help me recruit people to play ?

serene berry
#

oh boi they angy lol

serene berry
serene berry
#

you got it

sharp owl
#

How can I push to talk in the game ?

#

On keyboard ?

serene berry
#

left ALT? i think, maybe left CTRL

rose nova
#

i think it says on the chat

#

look to the down left corner

#

or if not maybs its in Keybinds in the settings

#

binfs kmdkd

harsh garden
#

Is this weekend free weekend?

rose nova
#

i dont think so

#

but who knows

split onyx
#

🐈

rose nova
#

babe wake up new gtfo pics in the gtfo store steam page dropped

#

:]

gritty cape
#

how can i join someones code from GTFO?

serene berry
#

you need to copy their lobby code or be friends on Steam

rose nova
#

when u copy their code a button under TRAINING will appear

#

when u press it u join

gritty cape
#

under matchmake?

rose nova
#

think so yeah

gritty cape
#

hmm maybe i have to be in the same rundown

#

thanks for the answers

rose nova
#

u can also join from the rundown screen

#

and if they r already in a match or u disconnected

#

ask em for the code again

#

since it can change

vale onyx
#

alguien de habla hispana?

latent palm
#

I saw ping earlier

rose nova
vale onyx
#

acabo de regresar al game luego de mas de 2 años sin tocarlo

rose nova
vale onyx
#

ahhh chinga

#

gracias compa

rose nova
#

no pasa nah, wna suerte en tus partidas :]

serene berry
latent palm
#

I was asleep still

serene berry
#

AH, that'll do it

latent palm
analog flicker
#

It was my Modem being shit so I restarted it

#

(I tried installing left 4 dead to test and it kept capping at 1-2 mbps

#

restarted modem and computer. and now it's goin 40 mbps

zinc jetty
#

why dont the spitter bullets display on thermals
they are organic and litterally dispense from the main body
they also experience drag so like
whyyyyy

latent palm
#

Think of the luminescent stuff that dish off fire flies

#

They glow/shines but no heat generated from that

#

It serves as a blinding effect for a harder time anyone can dodge

#

Man chat dead

zinc jetty
#

they come from its body

#

its the pods on its head

#

and plus

#

drag

#

travelling at that speed

#

there has to be drag

sharp siren
#

Probably a bug my friend

#

Asidr from that there isnt a single explanatiob for some of the enemies in this game

#

Pray for r8 to have interesting lore

robust dawn
latent palm
#

The pods on its heads like i said

#

Compare a shooter to hybirds

zinc jetty
#

a

#

i see it now

#

mb bro

latent palm
zinc jetty
#

dissksksk

#

sorry broski

#

but thx

#

still doe i find it annoying

#

but eh my skill issue ig

latent palm
#

A thing to make shooters more of a existing threat

zinc jetty
#

ig yeah

latent palm
#

Rather than just a enemy that just sit around and “shoot”

knotty bobcat
#

Since the pods the shooters fire out are both self propelled and capable of changing course mid-flight

Can we classify them as missiles

latent palm
#

But its highly not

#

Projectiles is a good one always

wispy bluff
#

Then again bullets are also projectiles, apparently, so its actually a very versatile term

knotty bobcat
#

A bullet is a projectile
If it's self proppeled by some means, it's a rocket
if it's also guided ontop of that, it's a missile
(:

#

Hybrids send out missile barrages at you

wispy bluff
#

Yep, check out

latent palm
#

Ye

#

I guess it is a missle then

knotty bobcat
#

Awesome

latent palm
#

@green rivet alone in vc?!?

#

This sure is a weird Saturday

shadow wolf
#

Can you please join haha, just lookin for oce people to join us for a quick game of R2B2 and if you a fan of starwars, you'll join us 🙂

shadow wolf
#

haha yay

#

nice nice thanks sir

#

109775244068733204

empty tide
#

Where can I report a bug in the game?

empty tide
#

thanks

latent palm
#

Which bug

empty tide
#

so, if the door has been damaged and near breaking, you can't C-Foam it

#

and I can replicate the glitch every time

normal lake
#

Bugs dont get fixed in gtfo

latent palm
empty tide
latent palm
empty tide
#

at least they fixed the bug where Cell spawned in a wall

empty tide
latent palm
#

Its on the participates in the lobby

empty tide
#

I'm the host and only player in lobby

#

and person with c-foam

normal lake
#

Still probably desync

latent palm
#

And desync as well

normal lake
#

Ive seen desync issues happen solo a lot

#

Which makes no fucking sense but eh

latent palm
rose nova
#

but well also dont aim at the, lines on the door, aim at the corners n such, ive hear dit can go through it but idk how true it is

normal lake
#

My friend who was host solo meleed a charger scout no foam cus desync

gusty burrow
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Foam going through doors is due to memory issues, not desync, it can happen equally as much to host

normal lake
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Truly a god gamer

gusty burrow
normal lake
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Ye he staggered it somehow and just bonked it a second time

latent palm
cedar sigil
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Still kinda curious why ammo packs and medipacks cannot stack
Like 3 times usage and 2 times usage can stack to 5 times

rose nova
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cause u need to manage ur resources and it would b kinda easy in some levels to just make every pack a 6 use

crimson oriole
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that just seems like an excuse to add annoying logistics to me

last parrot
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it seems like a reasonable mechanic

crimson oriole
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a la classic r5b1 overload where you had teams spend 5 minutes moving things around before starting

crimson oriole
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just makes for padding time, imo

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time that could be spent not doing logistics?

rose nova
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u dont really need to i think wasnt it like everythin in the reactor room
but well like in most levels u dont really need to move resources either, is so u dont move so stacked of medikits and forces u to choose

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even so in many of those levels there are 5 6 uses of one thing

last parrot
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the game isnt entirely composed of shooty shooty gun gameplay

crimson oriole
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I still don't see a good reason why