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even after rundown 4 some won't have side objectives though
No, R4 forward. everything before is only main
You can tell on level select what things they have
ooooh, lol i was looking for them in R1 😂
i should phrase this better, is it possible to solo a giant with a hammer and c foam without waking the room?
you can solo a big guy with a hammer and no cfoam if you want
u can do itw/o the foam and with enough like, skill
but its a nice way to do it too with foam if u like dont know how to i guess
u can do it w/o foam too with bots and its way easier
the answer r the same
otherwise it would be 1,0,0,0
this
aaah i see now
what about knife thou? is it possible with c foam and knife?
probably possible but you'd need an impractical amount of cfoam
Knife can kill giants. With enough hits. But not fast enough
Honestly you'd need to stab more furiously than a brit
ah okay, then i would just piss off the whole room if i do that
probs, or use all ur foam
aslong as you obliterate one of his 4 limbs torso or head he gets stunlocked
or get slapped
It's like 20 something charged stabs iirc
British can do more and faster
knife cant w/o many hits
make sure every time you attack you go for a breakable part
fair
so its possible but its impractical
oh damn, well i was talking from my hammer prespective xD
think you'd need to stab it about 10 times in the back if you do it right
yeah u should, prob change ur melee if ur doin solo runs like those
itll also help with scouts
yeah scout is a headache
11 assuming it's bodyback
but scout less of a headache now that i learn i can cfoam it
and it dont even know im there
u can also just bonk it with a hammer or a spear in the head
w/o foam
is a bit, harder
but very possible
Alpha 1 scout was ❤️ lmfao
and it only needs practice
it just had to exist and it triggered
You mean when majority people thought sniper was the only gun that could one-shot scouts
They would get so scared if you attempted revolver/shotgun scout kills back then lol
gotta love how i argue with a dude about 1 shot scout with pump
but only sniper did apparently
scouts are easy to melee if they are solo
good times
Me when they don't believe bat and hammer light taps shooter occi
i used to be so scared of them xD
And that hammer used to 1 tap striker occi
back then we couldn't do R1's first reactor level with 3 players and hours of training for the same mission
now i could do it with duo lol
i wonder how much they changed enemy hp, spawnrates n stuff
i mean im sure u could people just didnt know u could kite
infinitely
until like, later rundowns
Shotgun sentries were busted back then if you knew about it.
R1 was basically shotgun sentry bug
no we honestly couldn't win! all of us ran burst sentry xD They rushed past our defenses immediately and we had such a small amount of ammo and toolkits we just couldn't manage
if anything i got worse at the game and i still beat the level now xD
i had ppl in this discord help me out with my strat this time around tho
2 burts 1 sniper sentry
all i needed to hear
haha it is a hard map for newcommers but im still a newcommer myself! i stopped in 2019 after that level
i mean yeah but
im sure it can b done duo, both versions
and i came back to complete it in 2023 😂
yeah alot of ppl could do it duo back then
but without knowledge of the shotgun turrets and us just trying to exist it sure was harder back then xD
Nothing actually
Is that the reactor one?
yes
Ah yeah, the elevated platform is my fav position there, but I dunno meta choices for it really
Sniper and shotgun sentries worked well enough though
Not the best choices but it can work
2 burst, 1 sniper, 1 bio
That's basically it
Hold bridge.
Meta choices would be 4 Bursts/2 burst-1 sniper-bio
Some newer players would probably do 3 burst 1 bio
That's the meta way
I think we had 2 sniper, 1 shotgun, 1 scanner
Some people struggle seeing/tracking enemies without the dorito ping
When I play with newcomers and they want all sentries all waves
The bridge is pretty bright, from the elevated spot you get a good outline

Yeah and hybrids get more room to shoot you 😅
But yeah it can work obv
I miss when forklift was the best defense spot
gives em a False sense of security. Dies down when there's no more tool
The cover there seemed sufficient, I was also running DMR and another on the team had sniper and we took out anything ranged pretty quick
OG strats
I unironically held onto a 6 use tool I found that time.

Should not have, let them learn
👍
its morally incorrect to save the run
carrying is toxic
Tbf there's enough tool for all 3 sentries down at start as well. you'll just have to be tighter on distribution
If you are a veteran player you should dumb yourself down to the level of the next most experienced player
The problem is if several veteran players are in the same lobby it makes a kind of downward spiral
Nah hard Carry them so that a lot more E runs get ruined for other players
Thats how speedrunning teams are formed 
People speedrun in teams? I just got spurred on by hatred of myself, the level I ran, and logs
This isn't therapy m8. not the place
no trauma dumping in rp-chat
Gen chat is there for that
Oh christ why did you have to remind me of that harrowing place
Hello. Since no one have noticed my message on LFG , though I would try on general . Anyone polish speaking looking for a run ?
I used to tell people that and many other things, but there's usually a "I tried this map 4 times and failed so I'm experienced now" guy that needs to question shit all the time
So now I just place my sniper sentry and ignore what the others do
It's pointlessly sad sometimes
"Ehi can you move that sentry further down so it doesn't risk shooting the same target as mine?"
No answer or some guy saying that's how he did it before or whatever fucking made up stuff they have as a rule that purely works in their own mind
It's pointless so I just place shit and mind my business unless someone explicitly asks
I've said that before and I'll say it again: People only learn if they want to
4 burst is a meme, 3 burst and bio is easier, better and you arent cringe
real quick what tools should i equip myself and my 3 bots for the best chance of survival
depends on the level but a reasonable loadout would be you take mine deployer and give the bots 2 burst sentries and a bio
also i always give them burst rifle + either of the techman mgs that's a good bot loadout right
and the hammer
yeah those guns r the best for bots, normally with higher dmg weapons they r bad cause they either shoot from very afar ot fail the weakpoints
and yeah hammer is good, they behave the same with all melee weapons so u can leave em on that

I thought bots always do the same damage regardless of melee weapon
yeah thats what i said :]
they behave the same way
it has the same values n stuff
i guess i said it wrong
im sorryyy

Anypoint to put Sentry guns up the elevated position
u mean like, at what points would we put a sentry in an elevated place?
depends on the level but for the most part like, never
Unless not very elevated and if it got a nice field of view.
Sentries seem to often struggle with vertical detection / aiming, especially at close range.
Like up on jumpable box etc
I dont think there's much point
I do it because it's kino
It look great but it doesn’t seem great in terms of killing
Yeah, that alright. I think shotgun sentry gets a better hit angle with that (it aims for head)
But sentry damage everything same way right
Like it ignore body part
Sentries can score headshots and both shotgun and sniper aim for them.
huh
okie
Shotgun got fixed to not do that
do u use a regular shotgun or
Shotgun sentry*
Shotgun S is pretty strong at holding corners under bioping. There are some mean spots for it on certain levels.
new gtfo reddit sub when?
Cuss them out
are you sure about this? I thought they just kept pumping the numbers on it until it started to do okay despite aiming for heads
Doesn't the bat stagger buff still work?
im pretty sure nope
Angie
they do the same thing with all of em
i think the only change
is that with spear they dont run :]
but i need to test
Actually helpful so bots don't hug giants 😄
Unhelpful in every other situation
no, no is unhelpful everywhere
if u want em to not go to bigs
shoot em
or stagger em
Machine Pistol
Yay or Nay?
Why?
Nay
Damage stinky
Killing enemies with damage > staggering enemies with no damage
Why stagger when you can remove their existence
for me is yay
thats the autopistol
Machine Pistol don't got stagger.
And the dps ain't that bad.
Machine Pistol has some insane ammo
Ah, Thanks
Machine pistol is good if you can't land shots
I know which one you mean now
It's shots to kill is very high D:
but it kills super fast
Between lots of stagger but no damage and some damage but no stagger, AP is probably better.
not, really
at least with machinep u kill things, and very fast
and the reload is 0.01 seconds
its not like hel pp has an even better reload right?
Eh its ttk isnt that bad
Its mostly issue of reliablitiy and shit range
no but like i mean u can dump all ur bullets into somethin and not have to worry about the reload, is like enemy kill enemy kill enemy kill super relod fast enemy kill
no :]
i did
is ok
and cool
and probs superior
but i dont like reusin the same gun always
Switch between pdw, carbine, hel revo, dmr and hel shotty
:^ )
bots will hug giants regardless they dont get the benefit of range
No, it's so they don't all sprint immediately at the giant while it's meleeing so I can get a stagger off before they all get downed in a fucking fairy ring of corpses
spear affects their movement?
just 4 weapons u disgust me :3 /j
well if u wanna keep taking Ls then pick machine pistol
Usually build variety for me is playing different Specials, and then my Main follows naturally from there.
same
thats a fair assessment
I dont normally care that much about using the same weapon repeatedly cuz I mainly just enjoy melee
Its 5, tsk
also what do you expect me to pick in a run :^ ) a F tier pick?
Main and Specials bleed over one another a bunch,
The special is either giant killing or the same cover as the main
so i just pick guns based on range instead
Maybe a long range + short range so i'm flexible and can whip out the short range if I get surrounded or in deep shxt
long range + long range so I can hang behind a sentry or my squad and take out key targets (shooters, bigs)
or short range + short range and just go balls to the wall aggressive
Also feel like having atleast 1 guy on your team that can insta-gib a scout is pretty necesarry
More so instead of picking weapons on what role they fill
I just pick the secondary based on what my primary is lacking
if I'm using the DMR. A combat shotgun or Machine gun secondary would be nice incase I get in scramble where the DMR's slow RoF just won't help me, and the secondary can be whipped out to deal with the immediate threats
I have become sawed-off/High Caliber enthusiast.
Sounds about right
Like yeah but you could also just become a full support player and run dmr combat
That's exactly what i said?
i just hold medipacks out
Nvm I didn’t see it
DMR with combat shotgun
„Support“
When the loadout is extremely self sufficient
I feel like DMR just thrives at taking off Shooters that hang back
or picking off strikers that diverge from the main group
That way my team can focus on the big group of enemies and not have to worry about the ones running off to the sides
That is why it is support you just hit shooters is enough
Yeah at first I thought shooters were a low priority threat since they're
- easy to dodge
- do little dmg
but when there's a few of them, having to worry about dodging, or getting hit and having flinch. Really throws you off killing the smaller damaging enemies
We learned that the hard way when we all went short range guns and had noone to really take care of the 5 or so shooters in the back just constantly peppering us
There is just no other really insane primary for shooters tbh
Rifle works fine. but DMRs 1 shot makes it superior
Burst Rifle is nice too. Since it 1 bursts the shooters iirc
let's all collectively forget about the dtr
My friend's been liking the double tap rifle for shooters
since its also a 1 burst
Ye its like
Dmr >>> hel revo/burst rifle/dtr > rifle/carbine >>> garbage
also
DMR's scope is fucking weird
Ehh
It feels off.
Like the shot isn't going where the reticle is. but when I shoot a wall, it's pin-point accurate. Idk what's up with it.
Maybe the scope is just a bit cluttered-
Just mod in a better recital
😱
Words are hard
M-m-m-m-m-mod?!?!?!!
Oh neat.
game is balanced around 55 fov 😔
Yup crazy
100 fov superiority
That's atleast what I default to on everything I play
120 is technically the best
Yeah but I just don't like the fish eye feel at the edge of the screen
Stuff zooms by too quickly
Until you have a 3 down and one is next to the wall
I'd always recommend going 90 fov at the very minimum. But anything above 90 is personal preference
You can sit there and say that 120 Fov is superior because you see the most. But if you don't like 120 Fov. Or find that things look too small and move too quickly at the edge of the screen. Go down.
Get to whatever fov you're comfy with (so long it's not under 90)
There's also the weird effect where a higher fov makes me feel ''taller'' because I see more of the ground below me
Oh yeah I also just hit 100 hours in the game
You hate the game for the FOV lmao.
Still not past R3 because new friends keep joining GTFO and we keep having to restart from R1 because we want to go from R1 and further like a ''linear campaign''
yh
At this point I probably would've been mid-way through R5. but instead I'm here playing R1 for the 5th time
I was stuck on R2C2 for a while.
r4 is hard to some extent
Atleast I can do R1A1 in like, 10 minutes now
Because either no one joined or by the time I see one it’s full.
At least you can help the newbies.
What's the world record for completing R1A1?
It's gotta be something like 2 minutes
Impossible to do in 2 minutes, ain’t no way.
2:16
If I have to sit here and talk for 3 minutes on how to stealth the game, what alarms are, and how the scout works. one more time
I'm gonna flip
G key b hsu required
Atleast repeating myself over and over and asnwering ''what gun should I use'' has made me re-collect and re-think multiple times of I view the game balance
It is time to ditch intermittent play
what's the theoretical time if you got A key
Just go into free play
No that much faster
Tell ‘em to use what they prefer, or what could be useful.
Like 2:10 at best
I mean
I tried that once.
Newbie just crouched walked through the rooms without stopping when things start to seek, and then got genuinely angry why things kept waking up when nothing ''saw'' him.
Ah, he didn’t do training.
It is funny
Tried explaining how the sleepers ''seek'' and ''see'' you. He just quit and didnt wanna play anymore
Helps on your skills
I did training as soon as I got this game lmao, and it got me pretty far.

Now do it in under 5 
Guess not?
I wasnt aware there was training in this game
Will be hard with 2 newbies towing me down
There is, it shows on the side of the rundown menu.
???? 2:28
we need to throw more intermediate players into gtfo_pro
jish can one in theory long kite my dad with a belt to avoid damage
Mb
this will be good for the game
I don’t know the time
Ye not quite 2
Lowest possible is sub 2:20, but thats oof
Jesus, some sweaty people out there lmao.
A key + B hsu + best scans is somewhwre below 2:20
I still dont know how to dodge a giant's tongue
I've resorted to just forcing him to stagger rather than trying to dodge (Unless I got cover)
I can somewhat dodge small tongue attacks tho
He has a lot of range, difficult to dodge.
It's speedrunning. A class of gaming I actually have massive respect for. Ain't sweating. It's an art form.
I ain’t dissing.
run diagonally towards it if not behind cover because attacks are cone-like
Enough Range to whip around and hit me when I'm behind him
👴
I think i did 5:03 with 3 newbies who i just told that im gonna make us zoom
(they did know the level tho) was fun watching them realize we already had key and scuttle back to alarm 2
Lmao.
Ping issue? Idk
Sometimes a is the incorrect direction vox
Its speedrunning 
I get it.
it was H key and you were using logs too, wasn't it
I feel like I remember it
imagine if gtfo had infighting like doom does
Would be extemely weird since everything is a sleeper
Everything except scouts anyways.
Scouts are also sleepers?
But they’re moving, wouldn’t that technically make ‘em awake?

They're still reffered to as a sleeper
Sleeper is just the name for the zombo
Besides they can be Sleep walking :)
I just call ‘em “little shits.”
The scout has to feel you with the noodles
but once it's felt you, and its ''awake''. It doesn't have to do that anymore. So it's clearly awake and properly ''seeing you''
But technically it’s still awake tho, it’s just blind and deaf.
Dunno how the enemies even see us in-game
Do they just ''sense'' us?
Heartbeat? Heat? Some photo reseptive skin?
It's not deaf.
Breathing
Sprint or smack the ground and you'll wake the scout
But sprint and they’ll just shoot their tentacles out.
Data blocks? like the game code?
I'd mostly ask for an in-lore explanation
So like I said, to an extent.
I thiiink they get alerted if you sprint?
sprinting is a hard alert, no?
Not exactly code more like just really big Java objects
No, that’s part of getting a scout with a sledgie.
oh
I've just been walking up to them this entire time
You wait until they are walking, sprint with sledge charged, and BONK.
Simple, easy, effective.
Except when there are eleven others in the room lmao.
just silent shoot all scouts
Granted if you can isolate them, I guess you could still do the same
Based correct stuff
If they’re alone tho, it’s easy as pie.
Silent shoot?
Only melee scout when it is a double melee
Shoot from behind a door I think.
jish lead the ted talk on silent shooting
That sounds like an exploit
Cheeese
Ehhh
It’ll probs be patched sooner or later.
nope
haha, you fuckin wish
One of them can’t be patched
game is spaghetti monster
🧀
Unless you change a lot of back end stuff
Why eehhh?
How do you silent shoot?
fuck i think it's like near impossible to beat a level without benefitting from a glitch/exploit because there's just so many of them
Be client
Fire gun
Immediately shove after firing
beat e1 to unlock silencer
Yep that sounds like an exploit alright-
if you do it correctly, you have just done a silent shot
You shoot as the door is closing - mo one will hear shit
It is ping dependent
Ping dependent too
Now it's sounding even more like an exploit xd
If you are on high enough ping all shoots are silent shot
Although some enemies will still wake up when you open the door. It's weird.
Nothing you can do about it
Aha
more often than not, host will do it perfectly every time unless you have bad aim
Huh
am i wrong though? intentional or not lmao
So basically find a player half way across the world and have ‘em on your team for hi ping.
Aus players have a hard time playing with us
Yeah they probably have silent shot just don’t know it
Now I kinda wanna test that out, have him shoot a scout in a room filled with sleepers
you only do it unintentionally if you're constantly quick swapping
other than that, no
I have some Aus bros, didn’t know they could silent shoot this whole time lmao.
You can slow swap on 200 ping
Like shoot twice then swap and get it
do we even categorize reload cancels as glitches?
That’s more like a norm honestly.
that shit is in most fps
funnily enough the guns that could benefit the most from reload cancelling cannot reload cancel
SAWED OFF.
Lmao
bull pup too if i recall
industry standard are this point
You can shoot through doors aswell
Yes
They aren’t solid
The fact that some guns do it and others don't tells you everything you need to know
So that’s why the bots keep shooting the doors lmao.
Thought they were schizo or something.
Na they just see the sleeper and kill then through door
they said dont get used to it cuz they will be fixing that but few months later we still here
Reload Cancels are nearly almost intentional by the devs.
If they didn't want us to reload cancel, they could just add a timer that'll hard force the ammo count to -only- be updated after x amount of time has passed since the reload started
Technically that's already in the game by some means. Since the devs must've had some form of delay when reloading to when you get the ammo.
I'm not 100% fluent in the coding of this stuff tho
If gods wanted you to reload in 0,5 of a second - they would give you a 0,5 animation
They also could have just changed one number
But they don’t
I dont remember what the game was.
I played some shitty early access tha thad the gun get ammo the instant you pushed reload
So you could press R, instantly reload, then just animation cancel and enjoy a 0.00001 reload time.
Heat bug moments
Your birth could be changed with one number. Jish set to 0. Pwned
dont encourage him
Most games operate on some Delay between pressing R and ammo gained, that is entirely independent of the animation
All they really have to do to get rid of animation cancelling. Is just match that delay to the animation. Iirc
Atleast CoD does that.
We don't call it abortions we call it "patching code"
BO4 I believe had a patch where they upped that delay timer so guns wasnt as easily reload cancelled.
Silence robo jish
It fucked me over multiple times cuz I was used to the reload cancels. So I was always cancelling too early and losing ammo
Annoyed alot of people cuz the guns always had a ''click'' when the mag was put in, and thus at that click you could animation cancel
After the patch the actual cancel was like 0.2 seconds behind that click.
well come guns dont have a reload cancel, like bullpup or sawed off so they could easily remove it from the other guns if they wanted to
do it enough times and you'll start feeling it
That's also what I think. Which just further proves that reload cancels are intentional.
Reload cancels are part of the balance of the guns. Sawed off and bullpup not having them means it's a downside for said guns
The devs are clearly aware of the cancels.
it could not be intentional. i wouldnt be surprised if none of the devs or testers, or very very few of them do reload cancelling
clearly they dont play in a way where they noticed sniper melee
aka using movement
bullpup is garbage unless you land headshots, most often than not you wont and having to reload for 2 yrs doesnt help it
If you're a tester and you don't test the most basic fucking Animation Cancel that's found in 99.9% of fps games. Stop being a tester lol
Reminder that flashlights are intended to be a balance point.
Its a fun conversation topic, dont get your panties in a twist
Nothing to get mad over lmao.
That too.
Why use long range flashlight when Hel rifle :)
cause hel rifle sucks
True
hel rifle good
I always used Köning, never tried the Hel Rifle.
I also find the long range flashlight not that good because the flash cone is so wide.
Its hard to both see the room, and not light up every sleeper in the room
With a narrow flash cone you can map out the room, or look at something specific (like a popper next to an enemy you wanna hit)
pls do not ever type that name out again, with the umlaut as well
Remember the knife isn’t supposed to be able to kill scouts. It is a bug
Less headshot damage, more bullets, penetrates
What
Fr?
Yeah those are the devs intentions man
Köning.
Oh so you're mad about the convo on animation cancels and trying to mock it, gotcha
I think the knife could have a niche use. I should be able to slit my wrists at low health to make my team rez me at 20
Irritated might be better tho?
A better word I mean.
Ehh
From what I can tell the knife does 99 dmg to a Scout's occupit
L take
And that even tho mountain doesnt even have an L in it
where tf did this number come from
Racist
5.5x2x2x(3x1.5) = 99
Lmao
you dont get sleeping damage on scouts
It doesn’t get sleeping
:^)
backstabber multi (real)
So that means scouts are technically actually awake
but they can't sense you until they feel you with the noodles, but once they feel you they can sense you?
That's.. odd.
Then they can’t possibly be asleep.
almost like no thought went into it at all
I did it solo r1a1
If they’re aware, moving around, and sprouting tentacles, then they are conscious therefore awake.
Yeah I guess they're awake but just, not able to sense you until their feelers are triggered which just doesn't make sense logically
but eh
Game logic fuckit
but they can't sense you until they feel you with the noodles,
thats why they don't wale up from screams from other sleepers
Agreed.
There was a kid in my high school class that made sandwiches while he was asleep in the middle of the night
Explain that
I hate scouts
Scouts do suck.
Gtfo lore nerds olympic level mental gymnastics trying to tell you why they can't take their meds and how they feel more like themselves off of it
they are awake, but not woke
They’re awake, but blind.
Scouts are not asleep
They're awake, but not able to sense you walking around, or sense other sleepers dying
However, they will sense you, and can chase you down, track you, and shoot you, once their feelers are triggered
Don't make sense.
I like blast them with a spear or blast it with a sniper
but they're not blind since once they're actually triggered / alarted, they can track and shoot you completely fine

I sprint at ‘em with sledge when they are walking.
Definitely not hammer
I feel like they ''hear'' more than they sense you sprint, or sense others dying
You know that guy in Daredevil? The same might be for the scout, has some advanced shit or something.
Are there logs that explain how the sleepers functions in detail or is it all hearsay and trying to theorize game logic?
Lore chatter
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Lmao
they don't wake up from gunshots if the bullets don't touch the tentacles
MMmmmm yes
They won’t wake up at all if I dome ‘em with sledge or sniper.
they are pretty kin ky
good for them
Gotta make sure all pellets hit
for maximum Scout Preggers

Evolves to mother.
Teammates: report. He spawned a mother
I feel like if scouts looked more visually different you could excuse their different methods of finding you as some evolutionary thing
but they're just 1.2x scale spitty boys
Give an example, I'm curious
I don't know, their model should be more designed around their tendrils instead of them just clipping through the scout's head/body
Too much work
cause right now they just look like shooters but a little bigger
or charger scouts, that are just 'chargers but a little bigger'
Hm, are they? I swear they had a unique head
i think it's just sized up more than the rest of their body
Shadow scouts are different :^)
I pray r8 doesn't spam stuff to inflate difficulty
they already leaked that they will be doing that, adding in 34 enemies across each map more than they usually do,
just google: GTFO inflation 34
That sounds vague enough to accuse anything i dislike but a great example is r7c3 spamming charger scouts and giants. It's just tedious and time consuming. Love the overload and the timed part though
it is a genuinely difficult thread to make the stealth in this game difficult without being tedious or impossible. i think it is core mechanics fault
Red light - green light isn’t very flexible tbh
I agree with that notion
The most interactive it gets is flashing enemies
It gets less flexible when enemy variety is just adding big and scout variant
the cautious move of taking your hands off the controls being a really boring floor to work with in an interactive medium
Not much to test mastery. Even worse considering you're punished for not killing.
WHAT if we added a step above red light
Even payday punishes for killing by adding new guards so it's not black and white
isnt that the light that sees nut
you looking real nuttable right now
tbh i dont think c3 difficulty isnt quite just spammin enemies, is making u dealing with em in a way a bit out of the box, it punishes you for tryin to be too freely with your movements because it assumes u have learnt to sneak and so it throws a curveball by not lettin u wake up the room and just goin on guns and meleeing; the level gives u foam things and syringes so you have everything you need to sneak through including things for the scouts, and so make it that when they activate its not cause many enemies or somethin, is cause u didnt foam an enemy in time or were too careless and woke up the room while tryin to kill the hybrid in the corner
c3 is as tedious as you make it
the part after the main bulkhead does become more rng and i do think thats just, not needed u dont need 70 bigs, but even so the idea is the same, maybe freezing many enemies at once communicatin with ur team, freezin one killing one and then going back for the foamed one, all that kinda stuff, and evwrything w/o toold and guns so u dont feel safe
and thats it its about 8 rooms only not counting extreme
it takes time but its only half the level and after the uplink it gives it a twist by putting a timer on your pathing
this mission, like almost every other mission, is suggesting you slow down but rewarding you for (being good at) going fast. and the armory run is proof of that.
get comfy and fast melee-ing bigs.
or else
the level has one too many optionals and shouldn't be a PE imo, but thats a small note
eh
If you remove secondary then main is boring
If you remove ovl the main is even more boring
prolly top 3 balanced pe imo
hmm removing secondary makes main faster, i think thats an improvement.
imo the gimmick should be used more often
is the precision rifle any good? i've been enjoying it though have heard it isnt that good actually?
and we get the variety in that way
Yeha but keep in mind that ovl makes main easier so having shadows balances it out
it is the worst pistol in ohh true
it is the worst Special, and therefore pretty good
Its f tier except against tanks which is nice buT that's about it
but it ain't a sniper, and there are 3? better pistols
any general weapon recommendations? im new; from what i see what i've been enjoying are bad tier lol
Hmmmm i don't get the tank bit
been using heavy smg, as it had nice amount of ammo; also precision rifle for long range also thermal kinda helps but i suppose not needed also
Id say pdw ar carbine for primary
Heavy assault rifle veruta machine gun combat shotgun and maybe high cal
usual 'meta' is hel revo carbine and pdw
ew high cal- but
u can just
pick whatevs u want really
pdw is thermal main right
pretty funky aimin down sights, but its got nice hipfire :]
Thermal and 3-4 shots a tumor
a question for shotguns in special
what is for what exactly? as i havent tried any
choke mod one is i suppose highest damage?
and combat is for waves?
as it is auto
um kinda, normal shottie cjoke mod have the same dmg, they r really powerful and can deal with big enemies fast, and also oneshot smols
Choke is long range, good for fighting at a distance
Combat close range, good VS smalls can 1 tap headshot
combat shottie yeah its more to headshot smols, it oneshots em with a headshot too, but it doesnt have the same dmg as the others
and yeah chokemod has, very long range
it is still a Pistol in the Special slot, are either pistols worse than PR in that way?
better than MG against tank, but like, thats a big category
Its the only redeeming quality really
All pistols are better than pr
i use it from time to time cause is funny
The only lvls I would take pr is r4e1 and r7e1
i took it to r4a2 cause i wanted somethin to deal with the scouts
and it did, well cause most of em were 70 meters away
and the bots defended me :3
Remind me what r4a2 is
ya, imo the only redeeming quality is the thermal + precision multi means it makes shadow scouts v easy
i don't consider something it has in common with its contemporaries a redeeming quality, it just is a sign that specials are good in general
um overload ||error alarm with terminal command|| and secondary ||HSU||
ah well and main cryos
Oh that one sucks
v much like A3 pe, secondary error comes in immediatly, but after that its similar
R5A2 pe is a wonderful 15 minute romp, that one is a blast
Yeah it needs more reserve and more mag size
Supposedly a dmr but in special but dmr main is just way bettef
u go in u kill some stuff u go out
Barely any fun dunno what you talking about
i think its cool :]
agreed, which is why i bristle at "good for tanks"
"good for shadow scouts" is at least unique
Eh you do you
Won't feel useless if there are many shadow scouts and tanks
Tho shadow scouts are easy to melee
again, i won't argue against [insert noun here] (hammer) is better than PR lol
and PR ain't useless, specials in this game are strong, its just PR's only role is killing shadow scout.
if there are no shadow scouts, i will ask the new player why they are bringing it.
PR is good fun tho.
And if someone answers my question with that, I have no other offer for them, and I say rock out!
either that or more base damage so it can at least two shot chargers
it has terrible breakpoints tho
it is worse than revolver in most ways and revolver is not great in and of itself
So PR pre R1 nerfs?
i bought gtfo like 20 minutes ago. Rundown 1 anyone?
PR should deal 100 base damage with a 4.00 precision multiplier, fire full auto at 1200rpm and get 40 ammo per clip
like a buffed bullpup
obviously
LMAO
oh also give it a 1.4 second reload while you’re at it
I think just buffing its damage to 15 will be fine
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it'll become hel gun without the pen and extra damage on headshots
go ahead and post in #lfg-beginners with the instructions in #how-to-matchmake
just some advice!
ask to not be carried, be sure to do the tutorial first [Training], start on rundown 1 and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur vc
assuming we dont touch mag size that's 8 dead smalls, 4 dead chargers, and apparently 2 dead hybrids if Chill's calculations are correct
I think that would be a gun worth bringing. Maybe.
Like a sniper rifle lite
That could work
I still wonder why on earth it has a full auto feature
it's a fun gun
i'm like 90% certain they wanted to make it some sort of full auto precision hunter, like more refined brother to HAR
But probably got desilussioned with the fact that if you combined it with PDW you would basically just bring 2 of the same guns, just one hits harder
A word "boring" was probably used... And now we have this.
i honestly never really understood why pr is auto
We'll see if they do anything about it in r6
people have been saying it's shit ever since it's mag was nerfed
some were saying it even before its mag was nerfed
first time i use bots they fall into the void and die
and yet
here we are
The original 12 mag was fine. Thats 12 dead smalls! You could kill almost the entire wave all by yourself provided you got a good vantage point. The long reload felt more than appropriate.
And now we don't even have that. Urgh.
to be fair to the PR it is a good gun, it just has a very specific use.
what you read
they probably can spidey sense shadows at this point
thermals seem nice
but are kinda
less nice than i feel like they seem like they would be
I've never heard or seen this happen to bots before
they're very nice for shadows, that much it does have
neither have i, first time i used bots
i think the problem isn't pr being shit exactly, but that other specials are such roided up contenders
very true
it is underperforming make no mistake but like, how many veruta buffs do we need
god DAMN
Can you post a vid?
I tried using veruta again like a week ago
Just 10 more mag size
recoil still mega cringe, i'm gonna stick to arbalist
a little late now
Oof
me and my buddy just started new game
fat veruta appreciator go back to your cave
skin crawler
YUCK
As long as they don't touch HEL AP im happy
What recoil 🤔
it wiggles too much, disorients me
and that goddamn spying glass of a scope isn't helping
arbalist is smooth heaven compared to that
I use veruta most of the time it's fkn doooope
i started using heavy assault rifle because i miss it as a main
it's like if i had a girlfriend with dementia and she doesn't remember me
(ingame)
i look at it longingly knowing things will never be the same again
and veruta is like that jealous ex
taking advantage of me
at my lowest point
by overgiving to my needs
again i stress the (ingame)
because gtfo players are incapable of emotionally stable relationships
(irl)
and after a match i just sit up at the bedside
with my head buried into my hands
ugh
ingame
trauma dump?
no not at all these are unchartered waters
look at me homie you think i really have a gf?
get real, like dr phil would say
😎 🫃 👨🦽
ill pay for your therapy (i wont) seek help now
im canadian the closest thing to a therapist is a polar bear
I want to love HAR since its my type of gun, but it just feels wrong
it always has 1 less magazine than you expect
its only 20
then i must ask, how many C degrees can you handle
greatly appreciated
fuck if i know
i have a canadian friend who keeps complaining about days where its 35C+
lmao
thats
tbh thats is pretty hot like people in very hot zones r at 40 41
and thats just 5 away
40 thats nothing
all i know is our winters last too long and our summers are hot so we got the worst of both worlds
but we just roll with it
thanks global warming
ok mr sun
mexico
:^
normally we are at 33 34 but ive been in cities and beaches were its 38 39
40
i dont think canada is getting to 35+C rn even with the heatwave
unless this is in fahrenheit
no its in C
i find it hard to believe its getting that hot up in canada
it is
wheaters dyin
not super frequently or anything, but just enough to be brought up
the thing is thats how hot arizona is right now and they have death valley
also are taking humidity into account?
yeah heat index and actual temperature are different
i can see it if we are talking heat index
i think we only hit 35 on heatwaves
wait i might just be wrong.
let me look into actual numbers because now im curious
i might've just been misremembering numbers
35 C can be really uncomfortable
especially w high humidity like here in the netherlands
it feels gross
very intense
i checked we peaked at 46 C this week and it seems to be dropping from there
the whole of europe is freaking tf out rn
in terms of heat
apart from the netherlands
kek pov your continent doesnt have ac for some damn reason
yeah el nino even aint fuckin around
yep
anyways
meanwhile it’s a comfy 22-24 C out here in netherlands
hehe
skill issue
im not really bothered by the heat personally
grew up with summers this hot every year and spent most of them outside
i just noticed
the pdw has a lil like ziptie holdin the cables of the thermal together
bro
BRO THIS GAME
i adore it so bad
bahah that is very cute
qwq skmdkm is just filled with details and i love it and omgitssogood
hello! u can find n share lobbies in the LFG channels!
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If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.
just some advice!
always ask to not be carried and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel
and if you are new be sure to do the tutorial first [Training] and start on rundown 1 since its the simplest one
thanks brodah
no worriiiiies :3
Can anyone help me recruit people to play ?
oh boi they angy lol
sure thing! making a post in #lfg-beginners is a great place to start
Thankyou so much 🥹
you got it
same thing as here
!!!
left ALT? i think, maybe left CTRL
i think it says on the chat
look to the down left corner
or if not maybs its in Keybinds in the settings
binfs kmdkd
Is this weekend free weekend?
🐈
how can i join someones code from GTFO?
you need to copy their lobby code or be friends on Steam
under matchmake?
think so yeah
u can also join from the rundown screen
and if they r already in a match or u disconnected
ask em for the code again
since it can change
alguien de habla hispana?
wnos dias
unas partiditas?
acabo de regresar al game luego de mas de 2 años sin tocarlo
salaverde
wno, hay en un server en español en #hc-latin-america
o tambien podei encontrar aqui en este server lobbies in #lfg-latin-america
no pasa nah, wna suerte en tus partidas :]
lol, did you forget?
AH, that'll do it
I've seem to have fix my connection issue Wheat
It was my Modem being shit so I restarted it
(I tried installing left 4 dead to test and it kept capping at 1-2 mbps
restarted modem and computer. and now it's goin 40 mbps
why dont the spitter bullets display on thermals
they are organic and litterally dispense from the main body
they also experience drag so like
whyyyyy
They arent heat
Think of the luminescent stuff that dish off fire flies
They glow/shines but no heat generated from that
It serves as a blinding effect for a harder time anyone can dodge
Man chat dead
ik but like
they come from its body
its the pods on its head
and plus
drag
travelling at that speed
there has to be drag
Probably a bug my friend
Asidr from that there isnt a single explanatiob for some of the enemies in this game
Pray for r8 to have interesting lore
Ya but like read his comment
No
The pods on its heads like i said
Compare a shooter to hybirds

dissksksk
sorry broski
but thx
still doe i find it annoying
but eh my skill issue ig
Its
A thing to make shooters more of a existing threat
ig yeah
Rather than just a enemy that just sit around and “shoot”
Since the pods the shooters fire out are both self propelled and capable of changing course mid-flight
Can we classify them as missiles
You could
But its highly not
Projectiles is a good one always
Yes. Fairly certain i had that convo before, googling some definitions - and they check out.
Then again bullets are also projectiles, apparently, so its actually a very versatile term
A bullet is a projectile
If it's self proppeled by some means, it's a rocket
if it's also guided ontop of that, it's a missile
(:
Hybrids send out missile barrages at you
Yep, check out
Awesome
Can you please join haha, just lookin for oce people to join us for a quick game of R2B2 and if you a fan of starwars, you'll join us 🙂
Hmm?
Aight
Lemme boot up
Where can I report a bug in the game?
thanks
Which bug
so, if the door has been damaged and near breaking, you can't C-Foam it
and I can replicate the glitch every time
Bugs dont get fixed in gtfo
They are called feature

You mean the c foam goes through it?
at least they fixed the bug where Cell spawned in a wall
yes
Still probably desync
Game updates slow i guess
And desync as well
Imagine being host and still have desync

but well also dont aim at the, lines on the door, aim at the corners n such, ive hear dit can go through it but idk how true it is
My friend who was host solo meleed a charger scout no foam cus desync
Foam going through doors is due to memory issues, not desync, it can happen equally as much to host
Truly a god gamer
That is a little bit hilarious
The scout POV:
Ye he staggered it somehow and just bonked it a second time
My 92% mele dmg spear says otherwise
Still kinda curious why ammo packs and medipacks cannot stack
Like 3 times usage and 2 times usage can stack to 5 times
cause u need to manage ur resources and it would b kinda easy in some levels to just make every pack a 6 use
that just seems like an excuse to add annoying logistics to me
it seems like a reasonable mechanic
a la classic r5b1 overload where you had teams spend 5 minutes moving things around before starting
exactly
u dont really need to i think wasnt it like everythin in the reactor room
but well like in most levels u dont really need to move resources either, is so u dont move so stacked of medikits and forces u to choose
even so in many of those levels there are 5 6 uses of one thing
the game isnt entirely composed of shooty shooty gun gameplay
I still don't see a good reason why




