You want dead space
#gtfo-chat
mint light
wicked solstice
You want dead space
No, I think infection is enough
Honestly I’d be down for wetter floodways and gardens tiles
Like some where we’re waist deep in water
serene berry
that slows movement
serene berry
where is our from soft poison swamp?
rough robin
having more environmental 'hazard' like deep water would be interesting
wicked solstice
Hide your tacos
rose nova
no they mine
pine root
Level hazards are cool tbh I don’t think gtfo has a very good system about them with jump stam in current state
But having a sleeper that on death or on ability provides area denial would be a good change for interaction
rough robin
INFECTION WATER
take it farther, acidic infectious water that burns health too
rough robin
But having a sleeper that on death or on ability provides area denial would be a...
I remember readng something about 'exploders' at some point that couldve done something like this
pine root
The modded exploders don’t work very well
rough robin
what are they?
pine root
Things that die close to you then just blow up
pine root
But stealthing then isn’t fun
rough robin
but that might be too easy to use against the rest of the horde
pine root
The main issue with them
rough robin
how would you? do they still blow up
pine root
They only blew up if they were in an active state
so you could hard stealth them
but double kills were impossible
wicked solstice
Didn’t they basically trip mine you?
pine root
Yeah essentially
But it wasn’t able to be baited out
So then weren’t able to be meleed
wicked solstice
So it’s the anti-bonkers enemy
pine root
Yeah
serene berry
so we have a few small enemies in the game
Strikers
Shooter
Chargers
Shadows
Flyers
is there a new small that could be added in R8 and it would be interesting?
rose nova
no climb into u and ur teammates have to shoot u to get em off u :3
rough robin
an enemy that could do an area-effect like coating the ground in biomass or something would be a good shakeup
serene berry
adn the biomass would be a slow effect?
rough robin
slowdown, maybe damage or infection
in addition i mean
also maybe an enemy that stays back and 'assists'
maybe an enemy that screams which disorients the player, and it hangs out in the far back of groups making it harder to find and kill
wicked solstice
I’d like a few more elites tbh
Like something in between tanks/birthers and normal enemies
Stuff like Hybrids and Snatchers
dull citrus
me and my boy just started need some help playing thru
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rose nova
me and my boy just started need some help playing thru
just some advice!
be sure to do the tutorial first [Training], start on rundown 1 since its the simplest one, ask to not be carried and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel
rough robin
I’d like a few more elites tbh
I feel like need a bit more of everything
More elites and more regular enemies for variation on hordes
sharp siren
more unique enemies sure
i guess
but we just have a shitty spawn system
pls fix heat bug
change it to 25
dull citrus
just some advice!
be sure to do the tutorial first [Training], start on rundown ...
yeah me and my buddy did that and weve failed the first lvl 2 times
little agate
im guessing people dont play the early rundowns
dull citrus
yeah were in R1A1 and suck ass
sharp siren
im guessing people dont play the early rundowns
pro tip: host your own game
bypasses all your issues
wispy bluff
Better than nothing, but its like rolling a dice
rose nova
yeah were in R1A1 and suck ass
do u need help with somethn? maybs some advice for the level or strats to help u out where u die the most?
i for sure needed a couple tries for a couple of those alarms qwq
dull citrus
the alarms are no issue for us. we just get to the point it over runs the 2 of us
trying to get at least 2 more to just play thru
rose nova
well in case u havent there b also bots, but yeah humans r better for stealths n such so :3
dull citrus
yeah the bots are jusr dumb they've almost killed us on a couple of the alarms
sharp owl
well in case u havent there b also bots, but yeah humans r better for stealths n...
your representation of bots is sorely lacking
wispy bluff
yeah the bots are jusr dumb they've almost killed us on a couple of the alarms
Still better than nothing at all, since the game does not adjusts for lack of prisoners.
Give them Assault Rifle and Veruta Machine Gun - this way they wont oneshot you to the back of the head. They shoot all the guns in the same lazy bursting pattern, so their DPS wont be great - but its better than nothing, at the very least they provide covering fire.
Keep in mind that they basically do not exist during stealth sections. As in: enemies are not aware of their existence at all, even if they will suddenly shoot for whatever reason they make that call.
Give one of them BioTracker and basically forget about him - he will be busy pinging anything that moves. The other probably should receiver a turret instead - lads don't do well with miner and cfoam.
spare widget
who tryna carry R7C3 PE ?
little agate
is finding a lobby always hard or am i doing something wrong
rose nova
hello! if ur usin the in-game mm, yeah its kinda hard to find a lobby
but in the LFG is usually faster
rose nova
um is no worries they r confusin terms
like if u go into the Matchmakin in gtfo is just slow n bad
but we have LFG [looking for players] channels to find other people to play with
.t lfg
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rose nova
just some advice!
if ur new be sure to do the tutorial first [Training], start on rundown 1 since its the simplest one
and in general ask to not be carried and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel
sharp owl
hii i need one more for gtfo! add me if you want to join!
jolly bluff
hello ya'll
rose nova
hii i need one more for gtfo! add me if you want to join!
hello! same as the messages above u can find n share lobbies in the LFG channels!
rose nova
just some advice!
if ur new be sure to do the tutorial first [Training], start o...
and also same advice as before ksks
rose nova
hello ya'll
hiiii!
brazen reef
anyone want to do R1B1?
trim sail
you can find people in the LFG channels
brazen reef
oh ok thankyou
rose nova
oh ok thankyou
just some advice!
always ask to not be carried and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel
.t lfg
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mint light
Fuckin love being on 20HP gang gang
the only way to play
little ridge
Just be suicidal and melee everything
The worse that can happen is that you become a carpet, but when you get ressed boom, back at 20%
neon dragon
hello every body and i wish a great day i am thinking to buy game and i wonder if i buy it can i find many players play with me or it limited
humble canyon
uh
sour lagoon
uh
humble canyon
hello every body and i wish a great day i am thinking to buy game and i wonder i...
its a 4 player coop
whad you mean "many players play with me or it limited"
.-.
sour lagoon
best experience is if you have 3 friends to play it with
humble canyon
3 friends that are noob or 2 noobs w/ one good player because torturing someone mentally is fun
neon dragon
i mean i can play with any one in this server or limited for your friends only because i don't have friends in this game and i
love horror and I ant know it worth it
jade iron
i mean i can play with any one in this server or limited for your friends only b...
.t lfg
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i mean i can play with any one in this server or limited for your friends only b...
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jade iron
could take a peek in the lfg channels to see how active they are
I don't personally know, I basically never play pubs these days
maybe someone else here can comment on how active lfgs are these days
my sense is that they're fairly active, but since they added all the old rundowns back the playerbase is a bit more spread out so it can be a bit harder to get a group together for the level you want
oh if you're wanting to know if you can play with people who aren't your steam friends, answer is yes
lobby system allows joining via code that you copy into clipboard
neon dragon
thank you but what you recommended for me buy a game or not
jade iron
uhh, game's at its best with a regular group
if you can't get a full 4, there are bots that can fill slots
the more bots the more rough you're going to find things later on though
again I don't know how active lfgs are, but it'd be a good idea to use lfgs if you don't have a regular group
game is balanced around a full team
well, unless you're an experienced player, in which case you'll get by comfortably in much of the game with fewer than 4 players
but as a new player you're going to want teammates
neon dragon
i understood and thank you for answering me i ant to know is best lfg for egypt is africa or hat
what ?
jade iron
I'd probably lfg in whichever regions I could get a decent connection
so if I were in egypt, I guess I'd look into africa, and eastern and western europe?
people do play games with connections over larger distances, but it gets really rough if you're playing with someone on the other side of the world
neon dragon
people do play games with connections over larger distances, but it gets really ...
thank you and i hope to you great day 😁
latent palm
people do play games with connections over larger distances, but it gets really ...
SEA playing with NA
The ping is fun
neon dragon
The ping is fun
what do you mean ?
neon dragon
ok i buy the game 😁
rare jacinth
ok i buy the game 😁
Egypt has a good connection to EU habibi
neon dragon
Egypt has a good connection to EU habibi
thank you habibi 😁 🤣
sour lagoon
ping is ping like every game
latent palm
nova bear
Hello new player here;
I played just once yesterday..very cool game..needs team though
jade iron
I played just once yesterday..very cool game..needs team though
.t lfg
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I played just once yesterday..very cool game..needs team though
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nova bear
Yy i know just saying 🙂
analog flicker
nova bear
Ty though...happy to see active players..
knotty bobcat
Curious:
Do people usually tend to go a pacifist stealth route? I.E not kill anything in the rooms, but just sneak through them?
Me and my group are always killing everything.
golden loom
I would think a mix of both cause some rooms have so many?
little ridge
Curious:
Do people usually tend to go a pacifist stealth route? I.E not kill any...
Usually no. It really depends, some rooms you want not to wake up so you only kill what you have to, example ||R4E1 Extreme mom room||.
knotty bobcat
Just wondering cuz I had a room with 6 giants (:
Wasnt sure if its worth killing them, but leaving them idle feels a bit risky
little ridge
But often you just clear rooms trying to bonk everything and move on.
little ridge
Just wondering cuz I had a room with 6 giants (:
Wasnt sure if its worth killing...
Depends on the map
Are those giants gonna wake up due to alarm closeby?
golden loom
you can stealth giants
elfin osprey
Just wondering cuz I had a room with 6 giants (:
Wasnt sure if its worth killing...
depend on the level
little ridge
R2B2 is another map where you can avoid killing everything in the first zone, but it's a bit of a chore sometimes
elfin osprey
sometime you could get in to situation that killing them is a must
little ridge
I'd much rather charge bonk and move on
elfin osprey
somethime you dont need to kill any of them
sometime you need to bonk some to clear the path
its level based and situation based
knotty bobcat
We ended up leaving them alone and just shutting the doors. Didn't wanna risk it.
Just wondered if that's an usual strategy people do.
elfin osprey
r2b2 is an example for the dont need to kill them and kill some to clear the path
knotty bobcat
What about scouts?
They're pretty predictable from what I can tell. But I've always killed them 1st since the risk of them waking up is pretty bad
elfin osprey
jish when saw a scout: im gonna sent you to je sus my self
burnt flume
We ended up leaving them alone and just shutting the doors. Didn't wanna risk it...
Situation dependent, if all you need is a keycard for example, most people would get the keycard and not bother with the rest of the zone (unless stuff is too close to an alarm door)
elfin osprey
jish when saw a 4 scout room: im gonna sent them to je sus
burnt flume
Most the time you do end up killing scouts, there are pretty few situations where you'd leave them alone
elfin osprey
r7d2 is an example for not killing charger scout
proven steppe
The mental stress of trying to approach a room full of sleeper is too much
It’s a ticking bomb for someone to fuck up
elfin osprey
you can still shoot them if you can defend the scout wave( which is easy)
proven steppe
I rather be a 20HP gang and just bonk all of them
little ridge
I rather use 1 mine and be a lazy player if I dont need the door.
sharp owl
r7d2 is an example for not killing charger scout
get the drive alert scouts n go start error
elfin osprey
heheee
knotty bobcat
I bring the foam launcher purely to make stealth easier
2 scouts in a room?
Fuck that. Foam em both and bonk
elfin osprey
we go zoom zoom
elfin osprey
I bring the foam launcher purely to make stealth easier
2 scouts in a room?
Fuck...
jish will be mad if you cfoam scout
also bread too
respect them
burnt flume
I bring the foam launcher purely to make stealth easier
2 scouts in a room?
Fuck...
Not really needed if you can consistently kill scouts (aside from one variant)
mint light
I bring the foam launcher purely to make stealth easier
2 scouts in a room?
Fuck...
Bit of foam waste
elfin osprey
we pay respect to scout by killing it with hammer only
knotty bobcat
Not a foam waste if it let's us stealth the scouts tbh
Takes like. 4 globs each
sharp owl
4 globs could have been used on a ladder
proven steppe
Just abuse the room shooting mechanics also
elfin osprey
and disrespect scout
proven steppe
Shoot them with hi caliber pistol
wispy bluff
Curious:
Do people usually tend to go a pacifist stealth route? I.E not kill any...
There are situations where clearing a room isn't worth it, but it's rare. Usually you're just saving yourself from the trouble of alarm waves bringing in extra friends.
If its smalls and giants - usually no excuse not to just slaughter them unless youre pressured by a timer of some kind.
elfin osprey
4 globs could have been used on a ladder
no cfoam ladder( expect for r2e1)
little ridge
no cfoam ladder( expect for r2e1)
ahhaha
sharp owl
no cfoam ladder( expect for r2e1)
r5e1 ladder foam
little ridge
What a very convinient rule exemption 😄
elfin osprey
expect for that too
knotty bobcat
Foam ladders?
proven steppe
Ladder foam?
sharp owl
yeah
wispy bluff
Enemies big stupid
elfin osprey
ill only accept ladder foam for stupid level
proven steppe
Didnt they just teleport up the ladder
little ridge
"Stealing bad but only if someone other than me does it" -Vergil's Potato (sarcasm)
wispy bluff
If ladder is foamed - they get hardstuck in queue to get on it because some dumbo got frozen in foam
elfin osprey
"Stealing bad but only if someone other than me does it" -Vergil's Potato (sarca...
my last word before ded would be that
proven steppe
they have an animation for it
Fr?
sharp owl
yeah
wispy bluff
Yep
sharp owl
yes
proven steppe
At the bottom or the top
gray pilot
sharp owl
AI too stupid to realize they can go round
elfin osprey
So if I roam the ladder and they freeze
wep, thats why cfoam ladder cheese is bad
sharp owl
r6cx
gray pilot
proven steppe
wep, thats why cfoam ladder cheese is bad
Hey the game is hard, I need to eat good ok
little ridge
It just block the ladder access?
They are very polite sleepers and wait their turn
sharp owl
They are very polite sleepers and wait their turn
except when i try to cut the line and they get real mad, walmart sim
elfin osprey
They are very polite sleepers and wait their turn
respect them for being polite
proven steppe
So do I foam before they climb or after their climb
sharp owl
before
proven steppe
Got it, something learn today
sharp owl
foam every ladder you find in a lvl
elfin osprey
normally before you pull an alarm, they last awhile
sharp owl
use foam sparingly but to a greater effect
gray pilot
Nice tips guys!
sharp owl
more than happy to help
elfin osprey
team, prepare the memory wipe flash
little ridge
There's a video showing how to door bug, there's no point to keep this shit a secret anymore
gray pilot
Exactly
proven steppe
There's a video showing how to door bug, there's no point to keep this shit a se...
Yea but that’s too cheesy at a point imo
little ridge
I assume you criticized that too then, Fireblade
gray pilot
Just doorbug and ladderfoam every level
elfin osprey
wep, i guess we dont need that machine anymore
gray pilot
Win is win
little ridge
Yea but that’s too cheesy at a point imo
It is, I just quit if I see people door bugging
little ridge
Like I just quit if I see people outright cheating
proven steppe
If your team are ok with it, I don’t see problem
I didn’t even play with other people that is public/LFG
little ridge
If your team are ok with it, I don’t see problem
I'd just have people outright spell that shit in the LFG beforehand rather than having to play detective
proven steppe
only a small community irl friend
little ridge
At least with doorbug you can't NOT notice it
wispy bluff
I mean is foam ladder really an exploit? Seems like just bad AI to me
proven steppe
I mean is foam ladder really an exploit? Seems like just bad AI to me
It’s like funnelling I guess
knotty bobcat
What's the doorbug?
proven steppe
What's the doorbug?
A cringe method to deny 60% of the threat in GTFO
wispy bluff
Something something you hit the door right and break
proven steppe
C-Foam + mine combo instantly useless
knotty bobcat
Very cool
wispy bluff
It's broken, but enemies don't know that and can't pass it
It becomes an invisible wall for them
Super cringe
knotty bobcat
I've had the opposite happen where the door was closed and I couldn't pass through it
But the enemies could :)
proven steppe
I still don’t understand how enemy spawn thou if it’s multi room entrances
Like R2D1 generator thingy
Like is it just random or there’s priorities
little ridge
Like is it just random or there’s priorities
AFAIK any room 2 rooms away from you
proven steppe
AFAIK any room 2 rooms away from you
Ya the Any is random right
And if I spreads my team out, would it force the enemy to spawn very far (as if I left one room with 2 room away)
little ridge
Always assumed it is, consider that in some cases the numbers get wonky because there's 2 avaiable rooms on one side and 1 in the other
little ridge
And if I spreads my team out, would it force the enemy to spawn very far (as if ...
AFAIK they spawn 2 rooms away until they can't, then it's 1 room away, if they cant even that they plop from the sky
proven steppe
Always assumed it is, consider that in some cases the numbers get wonky because ...
It’s just weird that one aggro striker get stuck in R2C1
little ridge
Spawnpushing was used a lot in OG R4 pugs for terminals since they have the extra rule of needing to spawn in same zone as terminal
proven steppe
In the alarm sequences
knotty bobcat
"Plop from the sky"
If a horde of chargers rain down ontop of me I'm alt f4'ing on the spot
proven steppe
AFAIK they spawn 2 rooms away until they can't, then it's 1 room away, if they c...
Nice gonna spread my team thin
And force them to spawn on long corridor
little ridge
And force them to spawn on long corridor
on r2d1? you can't?
You know how many zones there are east assuming you opened all of them?
proven steppe
on r2d1? you can't?
Nah not on R2D1, already finished that
Just knowledge I can use in future runs
little ridge
Believe me the only times I made use of that shit was back in R4 ogs and perhaps R5C1
Like, spawnpushing is one of those things I believe doesn't really help much in most cases
proven steppe
I mean some alarm sequence are worse than other
And I really don’t want to defend the alarm room
wispy bluff
Nothing that can't be solved by brute force
wispy bluff
Then don't, there are guns that have no precision bonus to speak of
Like high cal and... Uh...
556 Rifle?
proven steppe
No precision damage but it reward you for hitting heads for ammo efficiency
little ridge
Shotgun kinda doesn't, just aim for the body on normal sleepers
proven steppe
The only thing I can use properly is combat shotgun ngl
Just a good efficiency weapon
proven steppe
HEL rifle, my beloved
Ah yis I don’t have ammo anymore gun
wispy bluff
With a good angle you don't need it
Just getting 2 kills per shot is already good enough
proven steppe
But I like my Carbine and shotgun
wispy bluff
You thin out the wave on approach then finish survivors with some lazy main like Carbine
proven steppe
It’s za handholding gun
proven steppe
I yet to try Hel Shotgun but was it’s range bad?
wispy bluff
HEL shotgun + HEL Rifle is becoming a worryingly common loadout on my successful clears
Range and reload speed
It's not really a damage dealer gun, it's a crowd controller
Spread so large you will hit wide side of a barn every time
You just hold the entire wave staggered in place and tickle it down
Your teammates do the rest of the job
But can also be used to solo giants, multiple of them
You just align them and go ham
proven steppe
But Hel weapon in general just bad with ammo right
wispy bluff
Even without the penetration they usually very viable
mint light
But Hel weapon in general just bad with ammo right
Hel revolver always has ammo basically. you need to try to run out
wispy bluff
With only exception currently being HEL autopistol
That thing is pathetically weak vs lonely targets
It literally deals 1 damage per bullet, so 20 bullets to kill a striker and 30 for shooters and chargers
And that's not taking the short range into account
half magnet
hi i'm new and french if you want me in y'our team i'm hire ^^
mint light
hi i'm new and french if you want me in y'our team i'm hire ^^
Y a un discord GTFO FR si tu veux
Meme si la, la majorité est encore au taff
half magnet
Y a un discord GTFO FR si tu veux
je suis preneur
half magnet
Y a un discord GTFO FR si tu veux
tu aurais le lien si possible ?
mint light
tu aurais le lien si possible ?
Dans tes DM
half magnet
Dans tes DM
merci beaucoup
rose nova
not really
hel gun has not bad ammo for bein to oneshot headshot smols and take out bigs generally fast
sharp owl
A cringe method to deny 60% of the threat in GTFO
100% of threat
proven steppe
Then there’s no downside to Hel weapon?
rose nova
now i look like i was talkin to nothin qwq
proven steppe
dont eliminate ur messaged btw >:[
It got double send cuz internet cutoff
sharp owl
Then there’s no downside to Hel weapon?
if you are penetrating then no
rose nova
It got double send cuz internet cutoff
ah i dont see the other one then idk skdmksm
but yeah um just
generally theres more specialized guns than hel
but hel weaponry is a bit, funky in some aspects
idk if im phrasin this well KSDMKM
sharp owl
hel stuff are S tier
proven steppe
if you are penetrating then no
How y’all even penetrate
sharp owl
no you are not explaining how hel is good
rose nova
no qwq
sharp owl
How y’all even penetrate
just shoot targets that are in a line and the game does its thing
rose nova
hel weaponry just generally each one has its special thing ksdmkm
hel shottie is super great against waves, hel autop is much stagger and many bullets, hel gun is just very flexible and nice and hel rifle has lots of dmg and pen w/o sacrificin ammo
proven steppe
Half the time the door breached just become a gigantic free for all
rose nova
juust generally sometimes u want a main weapon with more dmg less dmg more reload less reload, and in the specials it just varies a lot
4 hel guns on a level can, turn out nice
but idk in r2b1 for example, maybe machineguns would b better
cause u dont need headshots with em and its hard for the enemies to line up in the tile
it always depends on the level
sharp owl
4 hel guns on a level can, turn out nice
but idk in r2b1 for example, maybe mach...
overkill
you only need 1 guy with hel gun
rose nova
yeah its a very, exaggerated example ksmdkm but u get my point
in teams i guess it more so depends on if other people r havin the specialized guns
then maybe if u already have the sniper for bigs the machinegun for smols and the idk shotgun for bosses [?] then u can go ahead and pick whatevs u desire
knotty bobcat
Hel shotty and Hel Rifle are quickly becoming one of my favorite guns.
use the rifle with the overpen to snip off some targets at range, or blast damage into giants
use the hel shotty when they get close to stagger for your teammates to easily mop up
proven steppe
Time to ball out the double shotgun then
left kelp
Wait till he finds out about autopistol
knotty bobcat
Triple shotty
Hel shotgun
Shotgun
Shotgun sentry
wispy bluff
I mean...
If melees actually had a swinging hitbox that didn't stop and could hurt multiple enemies in a row, dark souls style
But frankly that would invalidate spear even more
rose nova
i mean if it was a shottie doin that maybs :b
wispy bluff
Killing floor does that
You can decapitate like 3-4 zeds in a row with a single swing
gray sinew
Are there any Russians ?
wispy bluff
Yes, but this server is international only.
There should be a dedicated community at #hc-europe
analog flicker
If melees actually had a swinging hitbox that didn't stop and could hurt multipl...
IMEAN. we HAD a melee that could do that.
Old Spear
Imo it's what made Spear shine but now it's just a relic of the past.
wispy bluff
Yes
The guy sweeps camera while stabbing and kills like 3 sleepers at the same time
It's ridiculous and makes no sense
That "feature" was cut, but no compensating buffs were applied
So now we have the shite that we do
knotty bobcat
Is there a good loadout for the bots?
So far I've just given em a rifle and the machine gun
wispy bluff
Yes, that is the optimal one
Assault Rifle / Burst Rifle + Any of the machine guns
Veruta for ammo efficiency, Arbalist for effect (they shoot them exactly the same, but Arbalist deals more damage per bullet)
I also tried giving them double tap recently, so far haven't seen anything weird about it. Could give that a chance.
proven steppe
Does bot get affected by loadout?
Gave them like DMR and heavy assault rifle but doesn’t seem to have much changes
proud agate
Ищу пупса (потерялся)
wispy bluff
Gave them like DMR and heavy assault rifle but doesn’t seem to have much changes
They shoot all guns exactly the same. It doesn't changed their behavior, but it changes their efficiency.
If you give them pump action - you'll be able to witness the joy of them trying to whiff spray sleepers across the room
Which also means they will burn ammo like mad
Also small chance that they will shoot you instead and oneshot you immediately
With something like veruta they can spray to their hearts content and they will deal minimal damage to you
The insane ammo efficiency of veruta also means you have refill them with ammo once and it will last them like 3 alarm doors
proven steppe
Sorry what’s Veruta
little ridge
MG with 60 bullets
junior latch
It literally deals 1 damage per bullet, so 20 bullets to kill a striker and 30 f...
14, 9 and 30*
latent palm
Sorry what’s Veruta
The rambo gun
wispy bluff
14, 9 and 30*
Is that if aiming for heads? Because I don't do that. Not with that thing...
junior latch
Then there’s no downside to Hel weapon?
uh
hel revo: no, not rly. Unless you count mag size
hel pp: low dmg/range
hel shotty: low range, long reload
hel gun: charge up
hel rifle: charge up + cooldown
junior latch
Is that if aiming for heads? Because I don't do that. Not with that thing...
yes
also why wouldnt you lol
if stagger, ok
but if you wanna kill then obviously headshot
slow urchin
Hello everyone, maybe someone Hungarian is on the server
wispy bluff
if stagger, ok
but if you wanna kill then obviously headshot
Against a lonely target - sure.
But if use it as intended - for horde - then my usage style looks something like this:
(just imagine instead of the wall it's the average alarm wave approaching me)
https://youtu.be/bmmqx5O10Ic
junior latch
even if you only get a few headshots -> less bullets
little ridge
even if you only get a few headshots -> less bullets
I'll be sincere, looking at the numbers you posted it doesn't make imho a compelling argument for anything other than shooters
grizzled bison
Yeah I'm hungry 🤤
little ridge
Moreover I think you're both on the same page rather than not, since you said "if stagger,ok" and Artek specified "if use it as intended" and it's hard to consider horde staggering not the intended use of the hel autopistol
grizzled bison
Hel autopistol is for the big charger
junior latch
I'll be sincere, looking at the numbers you posted it doesn't make imho a compel...
tbf, when you are horde shooting you are not full on spamming to kill. You shoot in bursts to stagger so your team cleans up
little ridge
The super-rare cases that I take hel autopistol I just spray at the chokepoint and stagger as much shit I can
grizzled bison
You can spray with it but you're more EFFICIENT if you tap sleepers because of STAGGER CDS
jade iron
Then there’s no downside to Hel weapon?
I know eva did this already, but my thoughts:
- hel revo: not factoring in pen it does a pretty good dmr impression most of the time -- smaller mag, slightly faster reload, higher dps, more ammo -- then pen gives you neat little combos like pen + headshot kills, and a high output ceiling into hordes
- hel gun: before pen you have a gun that's kinda like (special) revolver -- larger mag but slower reload, less ammo but a bit more damage that allows it to cross the critical 30dmg breakpoint with 2 shots, which allows it to decimate chargers and do a good choke shotty impression -- and then obv. you massacre hordes with the pen
- hel rifle: much more polarising. It's like a choke shotty with more range and an extra round in the mag and same ammo, but the cooldown on each shot means you have drastically lower dps (but cooldown can be cancelled into main, and the virtually infinite range can often be used to attenuate the dps disadvantage), and its precision multi is bad which means it doesn't have choke shotty's great fight into tanks. Of course, pen gives this gun a nutty performance ceiling
- hel shotgun: take the combat shotgun, take away a bit of ammo because it's slotted in main, and rejigger that ammo so that it has a mag size of 14 instead of 12, but each shot does less damage and spreads more so that you're not getting the 1tap headshots that combat shotgun gets, but you're getting roughly the same dps and damage per clip overall. But pen means it dumps better into hordes, and it's a goddamn special slotted in main, so...
- hel pp: an attempt to make autopistol relevant by slapping "hel" on the front. Don't get me wrong I think it's interesting, and I get that autopistol had fans back in r4, but can't say I've found the value of a stagger-based support main in current balance as yet, and it looks weak next to the (already questionable) machine pistol that does a similar niche but also gets damage
tl;dr: hel revo and hel gun don't really compromise at all, hel rifle and hel shotty kinda do but it's complicated, hel pp does compromise
sour lagoon
aka revolver and gun op
jade iron
accurate
wispy bluff
That wall of text could use some spacing or bulletpointing
proven steppe
That wall of text could use some spacing or bulletpointing
I like reading it, it's cool
rose nova
is just a passin comment, its just so each weapon can have its space to breathe and the message can b read better, but its also oki how it is
elfin osprey
I know eva did this already, but my thoughts:
* hel revo: not factoring in pen ...
we could use some enter key
jade iron
Could I get foot notes and author comments
I should probably also show all numerical working in separate align environments, and provide a full bibliography
rose nova
ah :3
junior latch
I should probably also show all numerical working in separate align environments...
where are your sources? Any quotations?
knotty bobcat
The bots also seem to just, never use ammo.
Do they not use as much ammo as us, or do they just, not shoot as much?
wispy bluff
The bots also seem to just, never use ammo.
Do they not use as much ammo as us, ...
Latter.
sand yarrow
Not shoot as much, also, don't miss their shots as a consequent as well.
wispy bluff
As I said before - they shoot all the guns in the same lazy burst pattern.
sand yarrow
so while you're panic spraying a hallway, they're calmly (slowly) clicking heads.
wispy bluff
Bang-bang. Bang. Bang-bang-bang.... Bang.
sand yarrow
Bang-bang. Bang. Bang-bang-bang.... Bang.
"Maximum effort" or w/e.
wispy bluff
They even force burst weapons into it.
sand yarrow
the good old "see? i'm doing something" pattern
rose nova
The bots also seem to just, never use ammo.
Do they not use as much ammo as us, ...
if u can u should give em automatic long range guns, they work best with em, just as a smol tip :3
knotty bobcat
Alright
sand yarrow
like which ones?
knotty bobcat
Bullpup?
That's the only long range automatic I know
rose nova
machinegun, assault rifle, ive heard burst rifle is nice
is not an automatic but
ah wells
sand yarrow
is there an "optimal gun/melee combo" for bots?
rose nova
melee no, they work the same way with all melee
knotty bobcat
iirc they use all melee weapons the same.
rose nova
except spear, not runnin
sand yarrow
ah kk
wispy bluff
Watch Hackett single knife a lock
rose nova
they too pro
sand yarrow
lately i've taken to using the machine pistol, and reading the part up there about the HEL vcariant made me think if there isn't a better way
I like having the sniper for big targets, most of the others have more waveclear focused guns
rose nova
i like my pew pew machinep
left kelp
lately i've taken to using the machine pistol, and reading the part up there abo...
Autopistol is the better choice imo, you play for your teammates
sand yarrow
What i'm wondering though, is what would be more controllable, have nearly the same amount of ammo, but maybe a bit more range and controllable fire/recoil?
rose nova
autop is less dmg for more stagger
machinep is all about the dmg... well the dmg of an automatic :b
but its more focused in killing
autop is more so for coop, but boils down to staggerin enemies
left kelp
You can defo hold a scan and complete it before reloading
It very much depends on your playstyle though
rose nova
i like the machinep more, i think its aggresive closequearters range is super fun, and it can kill enemies surprisingly fast
sand yarrow
yeah, i'm generally in the thick of it with my knife, and when shit hits the fan, i'm usually the biotracker guy
rose nova
what was that i saw that
sand yarrow
so generally, close range is my jam
pine root
yeah, i'm generally in the thick of it with my knife, and when shit hits the fan...
Knife bio sniper mp seems like a lot of apm
left kelp
Problem?
pine root
I would just recommend picking a struggle
sand yarrow
not really... sniper for long range targets, biotracker per 8 sec for scans when they get alerted, knife for the backstab, mp for the "get the hell away from me" up close
wispy bluff
Sounds solid to me
sand yarrow
at least, the way I see them, it's more like different skillsets
pine root
at least, the way I see them, it's more like different skillsets
yeah I know it is all different skill sets
left kelp
You should try and swap MP for AP
rose nova
i mean u do have to shoot ur nippy bio track kill smols reload get out snippy bio again
very funk
wispy bluff
With bots? Don't
pine root
But taking bio then just going in to sleepers then dying is pretty bad manners ngl
wispy bluff
Wait, you have bots on your team and you're the biotracker guy?
rose nova
do u play bots?
sand yarrow
generally speaking, i'm playing with 2 other friends, sometimes 3 others. so mainly with 1 bot sometimes.
wispy bluff
Give biotracker to bot, easy choice.
rose nova
um yeah unless u have it on to like see sleepin enemies, but if u use it for tags, bot r very good at that
sand yarrow
generally, yeah, we're using the intel for sleeping enemys when on the other side of a door
like, we also failed R1B2 4 times already, so we're still relatively new to this whole thing
wispy bluff
Fair
rose nova
yes its fairs :3
there b a lot of sneaks in that level
pine root
yes its fairs :3
there b a lot of sneaks in that level
I wouldn’t say that
pine root
2 scouts
wispy bluff
Single best level for knife users, probably
pine root
Single best level for knife users, probably
Idk what you are on
wispy bluff
Just pop the balloons
pine root
Pls give me some
wispy bluff
It's the girl party level, right?
rose nova
yep
wispy bluff
Pop the baloons
pine root
Yeah but shooters can be occupied with hammers and bat
pine root
Yeah slendi gg you winning
sand yarrow
something i gotta teach my friends about is light-syncing clusters together
pine root
You can also poster sync them
sand yarrow
what's that?
left kelp
Stand then crouch again
wispy bluff
Posture then, not poster?
rose nova
is possible
rose nova
Posture then, not poster?
u show em a jonas brothers poster :]
wispy bluff
Poster sync sounds like you're showing them the "hang in there" cat poster or something
pine root
is possible
It is one of the best sync methods if you be fully surrounded
pine root
Yeah but you are limited to game updates when spinning
So if you play from asu to USA your internet might miss sleepers
Crouching avoids that
rose nova
ohh fairs
wispy bluff
I just spin very slowly
rose nova
i didnt know bouts that :3
wispy bluff
Plus minus a second is no big deal to me
Actually I don't often find myself in the need for syncing...
I do it like 5 times per mission maybe, tops
... Maybe 10
And it's always just 2 assholes that keep taking turns
After giving them their chance I just "oh, FFS!" and just flash one of them with LRF
pale otter
why is it always infection fog
rose nova
why not :D
wispy bluff
It's the single best way devs have to make any level cursed
serene jewel
Year of the fog
rose nova
fog dispenser
wispy bluff
The other option are error alarms, the bigger the better
And then combine both for maximum cursage
rose nova
trees dont talk!
oh
hammer has more base dmg, meanin it hits more when is just a bodyshot or a onetap
but spear has a tiny bit of more precision dmg, meanin when u hit head n stuff it does a bit more but, its usually so smol it doesnt really make any difference
apart from havin to always hit precision points with spear
unlike hammer which can oneshot a striker anywhere in the body with a full charge
wispy bluff
deos spear or hammer have higher dmg?
Hammer across the board
rose nova
or even onetap a shooter in the back of the head
cobalt bluff
Hello! I have a gaming laptop and a second monitor, it says that the GPU is connected to the external monitor, and the Internal monitor is connected to Intel graphics. But when I start a game it shows up on the laptop screen, how can I play games on the external monitor and keep the internal screen for discord or Google? help
wispy bluff
Spear deals slightly more damage on fully charged headshot.
Like... +2 damage or something.
Means nothing.
unreal dune
coolio, just wanted to make sure
left kelp
Bro has google and doesn't use it
unreal dune
or even onetap a shooter in the back of the head
wont that make all of the others in the room wake up?
wispy bluff
Why would it
rose nova
um nah
i mean, a shooter that dies with a single click on the back of the head is
the same as a shooter dyin with a normal hradshot full charge
unreal dune
oh wait
rose nova
u just gotta b like, standin up, but if ur not movin the enemies will stop glowin
unreal dune
i read one tap as like
one tap with a revolver
i just assumed hat gunshots would be loud enough to wake up a lot of em
*that
wispy bluff
Yes, they sure will
pale otter
The other option are error alarms, the bigger the better
at least i get to shoot gun
and can see
pale otter
currently running r3b2 with some mates
little ridge
Now? pff 2 guys bonking waves and we had enough time to fuck up and backtrack
sonic mauve
who is playing gtfo now? looking for a party
sharp owl
Now? pff 2 guys bonking waves and we had enough time to fuck up and backtrack
1 does the trick just fine
sharp owl
who is playing gtfo now? looking for a party
.t lfg
foggy plankBOT
who is playing gtfo now? looking for a party
Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.
If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.
sharp owl
u can find people here looking to play
if you are new to the game then #lfg-beginners is your go to
rose nova
who is playing gtfo now? looking for a party
just some advice!
always ask to not be carried and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel
and if you are new be sure to do the tutorial first [Training] and start on rundown 1 since its the simplest one
sonic mauve
thx
surreal orchid
If you type -T at the end of a ping command (Ex. Ping Key_White_123 -T) it will repeat the Ping until it has been picked up or activated.
rose nova
yes :]
sand yarrow
I've discovered an issue though
rose nova
:D
sand yarrow
If you type -T at the end of a ping command (Ex. Ping Key_White_123 -T) it will ...
the ping disappears/stops when you step away from the terminal though
surreal orchid
the ping disappears/stops when you step away from the terminal though
Balancing
but yeah
your right
You need real players for it
sand yarrow
So you can continue ping and look around, but the second you move, it turns off
and yeah, likely a balancing thing, since you could just ping it and go about teh rest of the level, chasing down the ping.
undone nebula
is it possible to do R1C1 solo?
surreal orchid
They wanted to make it even more important to play with real players
surreal orchid
is it possible to do R1C1 solo?
Yes. If you have god like skil
But mostly no
you will get fucked
surreal orchid
I ams tuck there too
rose nova
hii, it is possible
its just kinda the hardest level of r1 to do solo with bots
... i shouldnt use the word solo
but well
thick temple
it's just what people use
i think we just have to accept it
rose nova
yeah
undone nebula
i tried with bots and got lucky with the loot positioning still no luck of finishing it
rose nova
i used it before ksmdk
surreal orchid
Besides, it is much more fun with real people made out of cells and flesh and blood and small percient of iron
rose nova
i tried with bots and got lucky with the loot positioning still no luck of finis...
are u havin problems with somethin specific? maybs the positioning or the tool refill or the code n stuff?
also yeah it is funs with people but sometimes is about the challenge >:3
surreal orchid
i think infornt of the little cage thing right at the door
craggy jolt
Chokepoints are a viable place to set sentries.
rose nova
u can go into the bridge before the reactor, thats usually the best way to hold all the enemies since they only come from that one place!
with sentries u can have 2 or so aimin down to the hole in the wall
and maybs u can have a third sniper sentry saved for later rounds
undone nebula
Chokepoints are a viable place to set sentries.
can you get check points? solo?
like if you die
ik completly differnt question
rose nova
um no checkpoints r only available in r6 and r7
craggy jolt
Chokepoints are where the enemies bottleneck, not checkpoints.
undone nebula
bare with me
undone nebula
i see
craggy jolt
You know those holes in a wall you sometimes see?
That's an example of a chokepoint.
Where the enemy is forced to go in a tight area.
undone nebula
yeah i get that but i just changed the subject for when u can get check points
craggy jolt
Oh yeah, checkpoints won't appear for a while like Slendi said.
undone nebula
bare with me😅
rose nova
um they r a mechanic for some doors, but only in r7 yeah, and that rundown is very hard compared to rundown 1
so um
nope :3
short answer is nope
craggy jolt
So basically, play as if it's iron man mode, don't mess up lmao.
undone nebula
man im really doomed trying this rundown solo
thick temple
r1
rose nova
man im really doomed trying this rundown solo
i meaaan u could use the LFG channels to find people !
wispy bluff
Oh.
surreal orchid
I am playing R1C1 rn if anyone wants to join
rose nova
oh
wispy bluff
Ahhhh
craggy jolt
R1C1, notorious.
wispy bluff
The C1 great filter strikes again
thick temple
where's the captain america copypasta lol
surreal orchid
yeha
wispy bluff
Yeah, uh... Bots dont do well with that.
surreal orchid
look in #lfg-beginners
wispy bluff
Go find yourself a bro to cover your ass.
craggy jolt
I did R1C1 once, I can help again.
wispy bluff
And input codes while you loot.
rose nova
Go find yourself a bro to cover your ass.
owo
analog flicker
serene berry
where's the captain america copypasta lol
@undone nebula
Captain America: puts foot on chair "So you are having trouble with R1C1"
a reactor is ultimately 3 parts,
1 Wave Defense
2 gathering resources in between
3 getting the code into the terminal in time
If you already know how R1C1's reactor works, then its just the first two things you need, and they can go hand in hand
the most popular place to defend for many reasons is the bridge tile. the hole in the wall at the south end is a great choke point where you can get angles and focus your sentries, the bridge itself is a perfect funnel if/as you fall back, and its only about a 30 second run to the reactor terminal.
when you start looting after the shooting, you have quite a lot of resources around you to spend as the code person runs out and runs back. and on longer warm up times for the later codes, you have enough time to run forward and loot in previous areas.
when giants spawn having someone with a good weapon for bigs like sniper rifle is useful (especially for hybrids that will launch a 40 dmg barrage from across the map). as well as saving tool by only having 2 sentries down for most waves, saving it for later waves or the waves with Hybrids (4, 6, 8).
this is definitely a 3 sentry + 1 bio tracker level, and when you learn all sentries are not created equal.
Burst is the best all-arounder.
Sniper sentry thrives with bio tracking and the long sight lines on this level.
shot gun sentry is good for tight corners, but goes through tool a bit quickly so it is not well suited for reactors.
Autosentry is in the game.
if you have a bot, they are a boss with the biotracker so give them that, and if you have three bots god go with you.
wicked solstice
I love gtfo copypastas
serene berry
meee toooo
wispy bluff
Me: typing everything manually 
serene berry
Me: *typing everything manually* <:thenboom:765123865780551700>
where do you think the copypasta came from?
robust gull
according to the gtfo wiki
charger alternate aliases are: Bullrush and Punk
giant chargers being called big bullrush and big punks
i am here to tell you if you call chargers anything but chargers, and giant chargers anything but chargers and bbc
you lost rights to your hands
i'm legit taking your kneecaps and hands away
you are sociopathic, and should not be able to interact with society
wispy bluff
I would call them different if I could come up with something better
Bullrush is lame and charger is just... Fitting all around. Rolls of the tongue too.
Better than fucking strikers, that's for sure.
rose nova
stroikers
robust gull
i think of a nerf gun when i hear "STRIKER"
quartz cape
babe wake up, new striker_bullrush just dropped
serene berry
i call giant chargers Chongers
robust gull
fuck it we now calling small chargers Kevin Harts
serene berry
Three Shaqs! Three Shaqs!
robust gull
babe wake up, new striker_bullrush just dropped
wow you used an underscore! you must be a clever programmer! please, have all of my wealth
sorry the voices took over i'm back
quartz cape
bro thats literally what theyre called
wicked solstice
i mean it is what they’re called lol
wicked solstice
no
robust gull
listen here, moderator
wispy bluff
Overcharger?... No....
robust gull
reaches for holstered gun we don't take kindly to your kind 'round here
jk i'm canadian guns aren't real
our version of gtfo uses fingers and bang noises
" Pouncer, Nabber, Goon, Dog, Hunter, Barsik, Father Badtouch, The infinite Spaghetti Dimension" - in reference to a sntacher
ok a wiki editor is
fuckin' with me
no way
what the fuck is a BARSIK
wispy bluff
Last 4-5 yes
Barsik is a common nickname for dogs in Russia
Usually small fluffy ones
rose nova
the jokster
robust gull
i mean
wicked solstice
Usually small fluffy ones
So the annoying ones
robust gull
what else is there to do while waiting for an r6 drop. gotta shitpost for 3 months
join us
robust gull
aye but it's like, break time for them, no? they take breaks during august or something i heard
grizzled bison
i just said i rejected it
whats all this then
{
"Enabled": true,
"AbilityPrefab": "Assets/AssetPrefabs/Characters/Enemies/Abilities/EAB_StrikerMelee.prefab",
"AbilityType": 1,
"Cooldown": 0.4
},
{
"Enabled": true,
"AbilityPrefab": "Assets/AssetPrefabs/Characters/Enemies/Abilities/EAB_StrikerTentacle.prefab",
"AbilityType": 2,
"Cooldown": 8.0
}
],
"name": "Striker_Bullrush",
"internalEnabled": true,
"persistentID": 30
}
wdym wrong
robust gull
time intensive
robust gull
whats all this then
{
"Enabled": true,
"AbilityPref...
dead code. doesn't work. just said it isn't real
rose nova
unused
robust gull
clearly a victim of the mandella effect or something
robust gull
nope
grizzled bison
yep
robust gull
i'm stronger than you
grizzled bison
nope
rose nova
owo
robust gull
clearly the bullrush is just an unused enemy that had code recycled into the charger
yep
and textures
look i really wouldn't expect you to understand, i downloaded a minecraft texture pack once by dragging a zip file into the folder i think i know a little more about computers and coding than you pal
pine root
Beep
robust gull
holy fuck jish is alive
quartz cape
holy fuck jish is alive
why would i be dead???
wispy bluff
look i really wouldn't expect you to understand, i downloaded a minecraft textur...
Why did I read that in Soldier's voice...
grizzled bison
Team Fortress 2
wispy bluff
Welcome to hell
quartz cape
jish tell them im the real jish
wispy bluff
R5 C3 PE PTSD intensifies
rose nova
followin the rules of #how-to-matchmake !
burnt jacinth
gotcha, cheers
rose nova
gotcha, cheers
just some advice!
always ask to not be carried and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel
and be sure to do the tutorial first [Training] and start on rundown 1 since its the simplest one
pine root
jish tell them im the real jish
You be the real jish I be monologuing to my self
serene berry
gotcha, cheers
good luck! come back with any questions
burnt jacinth
just some advice!
always ask to not be carried and make sure that everyone joini...
ya we did like almost an entire rundown but realised the ai can only take you so far lmao
thanks!!
rose nova
ah fairs, good luck !
quartz cape
You be the real jish I be monologuing to my self
ty me
serene berry
He might not like it, but this is what peak self actualization looks like
mint light
*R5 C3 PE PTSD intensifies*
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not even R4C3PE??
knotty bobcat
Just me or does the heavy assault rifle (special weapon) suck?
wispy bluff
Eh
It's like a perfect mid
It's reliable. High raw damage, accurate, none of that spin up bullshit, and it reloads fairly quick as well
knotty bobcat
I could not get it to work. At all.
The only time it did good was shooting a horde of babies.
Else it felt like it did
- too little dmg
- too innacurate
- too little ammo
wispy bluff
It's only problem is running out of ammo in seconds. What is, 30 + 130? 5 mags and a half
knotty bobcat
30+119
serene berry
its fine,
and the worst in role
knotty bobcat
which annoys me so fucking much
why 119
why
Give it just 1 more bullet so the reserve is divisible by the mag
wispy bluff
If you pick up something like Arbalist instead you can dish out way more pain at the cost of longer reload and spin up shenanigans
knotty bobcat
I did just that.
wispy bluff
Poor thing needs a buff me thinks
knotty bobcat
Arbalist just feels like a better heavy machine gun with the gimmick of spin up
serene berry
If you pick up something like Arbalist instead you can dish out way more pain at...
i mean, primary v secondary
rose nova
the har is just very cool firerate, and a super short reload too, it can down a giant with a bit less than one mag so it can kill a smol with 4 bullets :33
knotty bobcat
Good luck trying to hit those 4 shots on a smol.
The thing kicks straight up in the air and the bullets go fucking -wide-. Far away from the reticle.
wispy bluff
not even R4C3PE??
As you can see: my braincells did not survive that one
rose nova
the recoil is not as bad as it once was, i think its a bit less bad than the veruta machinegun
knotty bobcat
I can if I tap fire it but.. what's the point of it being auto then?
knotty bobcat
I've heard it's very bad.
So i've just not bothered trying it to begin with.
sharp owl
I could not get it to work. At all.
The only time it did good was shooting a hor...
it has the highest dmg of any auto weapon
the recoil is there to even it out you're meant to use it in short bursts
and yes ammo is too little to enjoy it
wispy bluff
It's basically everything you described but worse
knotty bobcat
it has the highest dmg of any auto weapon
the recoil is there to even it out you...
Arbalist has higher dmg
rose nova
but not the fire rate tho
wispy bluff
Is it?
rose nova
also is it
wispy bluff
Wiki people I summon tee
sharp owl
by as small margin
knotty bobcat
Heavy assault rifle has 5.01 for some fucking reason it has that 0.01 extra dmg
Arbalist is 5.3
knotty bobcat
by as small margin
Still higher damage 🙃
knotty bobcat
thats on all guns
Oh so that's why they all have that weird extra dmg
rose nova
yeah
knotty bobcat
That's. Odd.
rose nova
i mean a striker has 20 health
wispy bluff
Heavy assault rifle has 5.01 *for some fucking reason it has that 0.01 extra dmg...
Oh we can explain that
rose nova
and a har 4 bullets its 20 dmg
knotty bobcat
..yeah, so it's dead-
rose nova
if they both collided the smol wouldnt b dead
knotty bobcat
20-20=0
wispy bluff
Devs are afraid of roundings
rose nova
it would b in need of one pixel of dmg i think
wispy bluff
Funky unity engine be very funky
knotty bobcat
But -how-
how can you fuck up 20-20
rose nova
so they just added that 0.01
i mean its not so easy there is 0.01s and stuff
like
arbalist is 5.3
so u either round em up w/o decimals
or u need a solution for unity
the game engine
and just addin that 0.01 is so easy
sharp owl
But -how-
how can you fuck up 20-20
if only it was that basic
knotty bobcat
It sounds that basic :d
knotty bobcat
I've never heard of games adding +0.01 to any dmg or health numbers to make sure 5 dmg 4 times kills something at 20 hp
rose nova
its probs not uncommon
wispy bluff
I mean who knows right? Maybe they do, we just don't know
rose nova
yeah
knotty bobcat
Maybe.
wispy bluff
We data mine all the values straight from the game files
rose nova
codin games is a livin hell so there surely are also other solutions
this one was just, the one that they thought about
mint light
As you can see: my braincells did not survive that one
😂
rose nova
and it works, most of the time
burnt flume
I can tell you in destiny 2 if you dealt the exact amount of damage needed to kill someone they'd still be alive
knotty bobcat
I've heard its possible to deal exactly 120 hp to a giant and it will live at 0 hp
rose nova
i mean technically 3 hammers to the back should kill a big but sometimes it needs one more pixel of dmg i think
burnt flume
so you know, it's been around
sharp siren
I've heard its possible to deal exactly 120 hp to a giant and it will live at 0 ...
it used to happend alot back in the day
knotty bobcat
Muted main dmg booster coming in clutch (my beloved)
Wish I could have just only main dmg boosters
Made the hel revolver my favorite gun cuz I can 1 tap headshot strikers with it
sharp owl
it used to happend alot back in the day
doest it still happen where giants are left with 0.1 health or smthn?
knotty bobcat
So
if the game has rounding issues
And they add 0.01 to dmg numbers to fix it
Why does the sledge have 20 dmg on a full charge then?
Couldn't they just have it do 20.01 and let it 3 tap a Big to the back without leaving it at nothing hp
sharp owl
you still can 3 tap giant full charge to the back
pine root
doest it still happen where giants are left with 0.1 health or smthn?
It is a rounding issue
sharp siren
doest it still happen where giants are left with 0.1 health or smthn?
happend with pump shotgun back in r4
rounding issue
pine root
It can still happen with hammer
sharp siren
thats why a lot of gun we have currently have 30.05 damage
that extra decimal its there to prevent the rounding issue
desert kayak
Hello, question can i do R1A1 alone?
rose nova
Hello, question can i do R1A1 alone?
hi! with bots, yeah but its gonna be a bit harder
alone alone? no ways unless ur pro
wispy bluff
Just be smart
rose nova
dammit >:b i was writin it first
desert kayak
😄
pine root
thats why a lot of gun we have currently have 30.05 damage
It gets worse the more x3 there is
thick temple
that extra decimal its there to prevent the rounding issue
it's funny to me that sniper has that twice
40.01 dmg + 2.0025x precision
desert kayak
Just saking im new and dont know much about the game yet
sharp siren
ask away
knotty bobcat
The precision multipliers are also super wonky
0.74?
Really?
Why not just. 0.75
Why these odd numbers.
rose nova
Just saking im new and dont know much about the game yet
just some advice then !
be sure to do the tutorial first [Training] and start on rundown 1 since its the simplest one
sharp siren
so you do less damage on pres hit
rose nova
also if u wanna play with people we have LFG channels !
knotty bobcat
It's a pet peeve of mine when numbers don't "look nice". Aren't divisible. Multiplicable
rose nova
7 :3
desert kayak
also if u wanna play with people we have LFG channels !
I see good idea to use that as well thx
sharp owl
It's a pet peeve of mine when numbers don't "look nice". Aren't divisible. Multi...
stop looking at em
wispy bluff
It's a pet peeve of mine when numbers don't "look nice". Aren't divisible. Multi...
Mega based
rose nova
I see good idea to use that as well thx
yes, good luck on ur runs!
and as always ask to not be carried
and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel
knotty bobcat
so you do less damage on pres hit
Why 0.74 and not 0.75
The dmg difference has to be so tiny it can't possibly take you down a breakpoint
knotty bobcat
stop looking at em
😭
sharp siren
because it doesnt matter
knotty bobcat
It does matter
pine root
Yeah it really doesn’t
knotty bobcat
It's annoying
rose nova
[never look to the precision dmg of the arbalist qwq]
sharp owl
just put tape on your screen you'll be fine
knotty bobcat
Same as heavy assault rifle having 119 reserves
Why
Just add 1 bullet so it's divisible by 30
I beg
pine root
It's annoying
Does friendly fire do half dmg or double
knotty bobcat
Does friendly fire do half dmg or double
I
Don't know
sharp siren
its x2
knotty bobcat
Maybe it's x2.005
thick temple
Cause we have 25 health
ohhhhh shit
little ridge
I'm going to sound evil, but don't be like some people that join the game, read all the stats and numbers then quit. Play a bit then worry about multipliers and stuff
wispy bluff
Phoenix point be like:
- this gun deals 40 damage
- this unit has 20 armor
- therefore this unit takes 40-20=20 damage
God, I have to praise PP on something
The ragnarok is upon us
robust gull
It is a rounding issue
fat people have a rounding issue
knotty bobcat
I'm going to sound evil, but don't be like some people that join the game, read ...
I've put 70 hours into the game for the past 2 weeks
Don't worry
I'm playing 🙃
sharp siren
70 hours
thick temple
there are some numbers that are worth knowing imo
sharp siren
my boy go learn the guns
robust gull
i'd describe giants living on 0.01 health a rounding tragedy
sharp siren
then worry about yo stats
pine root
0.75 0.74 crazy
thick temple
like dmr striker headshot leaving them with a farts worth of health
knotty bobcat
my boy go learn the guns
I am??
That's why I'm looking at the stats?
What?
little ridge
I've put 70 hours into the game for the past 2 weeks
Don't worry
I'm playing 🙃
I get to recall a guy in an MMORPG that asked me questions about specific skills for an HOUR before quitting and I never saw him again
pine root
Stats won’t help
sharp siren
that 0.74 aint gonna kill you but your lack of aim will
pine root
LOL
sharp siren
shiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeet
knotty bobcat
Stats will let me know what my gun does
sharp siren
aim lets you know if your good or not
pine root
Yeah but it isn’t helpful
little ridge
Stats will let me know what my gun does
Numbers dont exist in vacuums
sharp siren
sharp owl
fat people have a rounding issue
😂
pine root
If you want to know break points we can tell you them
robust gull
all you need to know is point gun at bad guy and hold m1 until they go bye bye
game balanced around like 40% accuracy
gl hf
rose nova
i just
like my machinepistol
robust gull
mains are so streamlined that they all perform identically enough to not make a HUGE deal.
pine root
But most of the time analysis guns without considering everyone else
thick temple
thinking too hard about numbers isn't that important yeah
but sheee if they wanna know the numbers then let em
wraith marsh
har is fine
that is all
pine root
If just slow like drm burst sentry is crazy as fuck but the numbers probably won’t look that way
rose nova
yeah
mint light
aim lets you know if your good or not
I mean Soul_Dragon has a point here