gtfo-chat

[rose nova]

right up me

[jade iron]

ya that was me

[sharp owl]

You will need to use it more to understand the pump

[deep otter]

fair

i'll do that then it just hurts me whenever i get a refill and it only gives me 8

[rose nova]

i mean never take a sniper

[jade iron]

I'm not trying to talk you off of choke, btw

[rose nova]

that hurts way more

[wraith marsh]

just take combat shotty

[rose nova]

take a machinegun

[sharp owl]

How much does choke get?

[jade iron]

sometimes you need power-range rather than power-waveclear

[rose nova]

also yeah chokemod its still a great weapon

just ur sayin pump is useless, and its not

it has still many uses

[jade iron]

but that one extra round doesn't determine my special choice

[jade iron]

ammo per refill? 9, pump gets 8

[sharp owl]

Well thats something

[jade iron]

I think on paper it's probably fair to say that 4mans can just go in with a mix of mg's and hel gun and like one or two choke shotties, and never feel the lack of uptime ever

just because the mg's and hel gun are so pushed

they get monster waveclear and are also for some reason better into bigs than they have any right to be, so you probably won't feel like you're missing power either

[sharp owl]

I think they are the only specials that arent all purpose

[jade iron]

kinda cuts down on the role of pump shotgun in traditional 4mans

[sharp owl]

Can Never go wrong with it and youre Always getting the job done

[jade iron]

on mag size, I remember the original choke v high cal debates before the high cal rework

eva: choke has better range, better precision multi, better fire rate, you're basically just taking high cal for those extra 2 rounds in the clip
me: I'd sell a kidney for those extra 2 rounds in the clip

[rose nova]

and cause it sounds nice

[little agate]

Finally got a good pc

I can now play GTFO

[sharp owl]

Congratz

[wraith marsh]

high cal was easier to aim, that was the main benefit to me

[sharp owl]

Extra dead enemies

[rose nova]

yayy :D

[little agate]

😄

Hate when discord switches my emoticons to emojis

[deep otter]

u can turn that off

[little agate]

Ong?

[deep otter]

ong

check it

:D

[little agate]

Cant find it

[wraith marsh]

6th setting in text and images

[little agate]

I'm on mobile

😄

Still nothing

[rose nova]

yah idk it does appear on 'Text and Images', in the emoji section

automatically convert blablablah into emotes

[little agate]

For me theres only one option in the emoji tab

[rose nova]

maybs mobile is just funk

[little agate]

Hold on

:D

Horray

Had to change it in a browser which is pretty dumb

[grand oxide]

Random question, having not played original R5, do people feel like Alt://R5 is easier or ~same?

[rose nova]

easy-ish, but tbh from what ive seen not by much, just mostly cause guns n tools r more powerful than before but other than that, even some levels have buffs

[wraith marsh]

by original I assume you mean post nerf?

[rose nova]

havin enemies they didnt had before

like a2 extreme

[rough robin]

that surprise would be so much stronger if there wasn't a door you could shut and trip mine

[rose nova]

i mean tbh u dont
if u played the og u dont expect it until its happenin and if u know its happenin, then it isnt a surprise

and newies will probs just do it cause r4 terminals dont do nothin

[grand oxide]

uhhh, like if you played Rundown 5 right when it came out.

[rough robin]

i mean the whole side objective is that command, its obviously gonna do something

[grand oxide]

I started with Rundown 6

[rough robin]

i feel like it wouldve been better if you couldn't prep for it so much

[wraith marsh]

then much easier yeah

(technically both are easier but its a definite yes with pre nerf)

[grand oxide]

fair enough

[jade iron]

people who were hoping for pre-nerf og r5 balance were never going to get what they wanted

[jade iron]

r5 was my true noob era, so I've really had to think about this a fair bit

[rose nova]

i dont agree, even players that only went to r1 and then jumped to r5, that know the game is a bitch dont usually prep
well im usin a very specific example but u get it

[grand oxide]

it definitely makes the questio harder. I saw Scaler's community post, and the team blitzed through it. Kind of made me wonder if they are just that much better, or easier, or both.

[jade iron]

I could've sworn that they nerfed the shit out of r5b4 in the alt, because I remember that level being some serious heavy lifting for my crew but we found it trivial in a recent duo

[hidden path]

It felt a bit easier overall

[rough robin]

I feel like 80% of the 'alt rundowns are easier' takes comes from the hundreds of hours more experience

[hidden path]

R5C3 being unnecessary nerfed really made me sad

[jade iron]

if someone confirmed that they looked at the data blocks for r5b4 and the waves are identical aside from snatcher, I guess I'd accept it?

[hidden path]

I mean, R5B4 was originally the stress relief level for us lol

So it was pretty easy even in OG

[jade iron]

I've had a few attempts at r5b3, secondary duo is a handful

at first I thought, logically the error section in r5b3 was the same, but it sure felt like a pushover

on subsequent runs through it felt a little more challenging

[hidden path]

Well, I'd give it a 50%, maybe less. R4 got super nerfed in comparison to the OG though

[jade iron]

like, I was going to be sad that we'd outgrown r5b3

[grand oxide]

...one day i too will find any level that isn't R1A1 a stress reliever

[jade iron]

but I think it's okay, r5b3 is spicy enough after all

[hidden path]

Yeah, R5B3 was mostly the same, although less enemies in fog area imo

[grand oxide]

but also... maybe one day i will main HEL Shotty

😛

[hidden path]

But yeah, I like that they didn't really nerf R5 much

My group likes to refer to the alt R4 as Nerf://R4 lol

[jade iron]

one thing that we realized after the fact, is that we were still in our noob phase with stealth clearing back then

[hidden path]

You also gotta consider that R5 also got nerfed with the extension back then

So R5 was even harder before

[jade iron]

yeah they weren't going to give us pre-nerf r5

[hidden path]

R5D1 pre nerf was a pain

[grand oxide]

That's what Chill Dude was saying

[jade iron]

I'm really happy with r5c1's treatment

[hidden path]

Yeah, me too honestly

Feels less RNG

Now it feels like a level I would actually play more often

[jade iron]

I was worried that the whole "getting ground down by the S scan then thrown into a pit of scouts and bigs where one mistake gets you stomped" thing would've lost its edge

but no, it still works

[hidden path]

Yeah

[wraith marsh]

I mean

[jade iron]

also it works overtime in the duo

[wraith marsh]

kinda

[hidden path]

Although I could tell there were a lot less enemies in some crucial zones in R5E1

[wraith marsh]

2 burst sentries kills most of the alarm rn

[jade iron]

like holy shit, literaly 0 ammo 20 health

[hidden path]

The two scout room before the first surge had a lot more stuff in it

The shadow room also was filled with stuff

[wraith marsh]

the giant zone before first error got a buff

shits real funny now

[hidden path]

It honestly felt like a nerf

[jade iron]

in r5c1? we went 1 bio + 1 sentry as a concession to secondary

so many wipes on the S

[hidden path]

Gone through E1 5 times already and everytime we go through it we don't really find that many giants

[wraith marsh]

yea, as long as they split fairly evenly you just have to mop up a couple guys per wave

[hidden path]

What's funny about R5E1 is that the "wiping point" is at the very end, so you can spend like an hour and a half getting to the endgame and just lose it all to the surge lol.

But it's essentially the same strat from R2E1, just not panicking

[wraith marsh]

its like 18 giants idk what you mean

split between 2 rooms now instead of 3

[hidden path]

Ah, before the first error?

[wraith marsh]

ye

[hidden path]

Oooh, that one

My bad

Yeah that one's kinda funny

Hopefully they give R6 a tiny buff

[jade iron]

it's probably pretty chill with 2 sentries and 4 good players shooting competently, ya

[hidden path]

Otherwise it's basically gonna be a speedrun

Like we did with R2

[jade iron]

I wonder how big of a problem it is in an experienced 4man if you do the S well then immediately trigger the next room

[wraith marsh]

like they all havent been speedruns

[jade iron]

I feel like part of the "buff" for alt r6 is just going to be adjusted perceptions because people realize things like r2 weren't actually hard

r6 came out in the shadow of r5, hard act to follow

also sniper's no longer awash in ammo

[wraith marsh]

wonder if theyll change scattergun

[jade iron]

I could see an ammo nerf to match the sniper ammo nerf

otherwise gun's fine

[storm quartz]

Would be cool to get it's original interpretation

Now that Burst Cancelling is gone

[jade iron]

lol launch scattergun was dirty

[rose nova]

launch scatterfun is funk

that gun history in general is so stupid

its amazin

the scope it had was really funny

[jade iron]

I still pretty firmly believe the only thing really separating r6 and r7 in difficulty was the guns

[wraith marsh]

im excited for r6

[jade iron]

stepping down from hel gun + r6 sniper, to choke/high cal/r7 veruta, was pretty big

[wraith marsh]

I wasnt particularly excited for r5 and my expectations were just about met

[rose nova]

i am excited for r6

sames

i wish scattergun has the scope back

but ik it never happenin

[jade iron]

I want r6b1 my beloved back

my comfort solo

I try to make r7b1 work for that role, but the 1room spawns are ugly

[storm quartz]

what

[rose nova]

scattergun had a scope

u can see it in scalers a1 guide video

[jade iron]

I've forgotten scattergun's scope entirely

[storm quartz]

Ah the BH build

[hidden path]

It was hard back then but even during R6 I already knew that R2 was not hard per se

Cause people were still learning how to play when R2 dropped

[rose nova]

who

[hidden path]

Also scattergun, funni gun for rushing charger scouts lol

And big chargers

[storm quartz]

Scalar got early access to 1.0 Bug Hunter build where stuff was different

[rose nova]

ah aham that thing

yeah scattergun its funk there

[hidden path]

Hopefully D4 isn't as buggy as it was

[storm quartz]

3 round burst was neat

[hidden path]

Also all my homies hate D4

The level, not Diablo IV, the latter is poggers

[jade iron]

r6d4 was amazing when it wasn't buggy

[hidden path]

Wasn't a big fan of it honestlt

My home was at D2 and D3

D1 would've been there too if it wasn't for the level being super easy.

Gonna enjoy falling asleep for the 100th time in R6B2

[jade iron]

I really liked the concept of d4, it opened hot with the error and the mommy fight, the surge alarm was among the best alarms the game has seen imo

[hidden path]

It was pretty clever to put a surge in a narrow space, as opposed to the usual surge in beeg room

D3s reactor was fun, especially when you do it the other way around

[jade iron]

the zone after first cube probably would've hit a bit differently if not for r6 sniper

the dark mommy zone could use a pmom and no checkpoint

[hidden path]

Main first, Overload and then stop the surge with the overload command

Was such an adrenaline rush

D2 was a good level as long as you took the error path imo

That error was fun

And secondary being really good

[jade iron]

I remember eva did the duo main -> overload -> secondary, whereas me and ahto did the duo overload -> main -> secondary

[storm quartz]

The Dimension aspect was my favorite could get some great level design if they fix it's problems

[hidden path]

Gonna enjoy watching new people (if they ever go straight to R6 to begin with) getting stuck at the end of C1 and brute forcing it for 5 hours like in the OG R6

[jade iron]

r6c1 has an impossible problem to solve there

like, everyone hates it for different reasons

the only time anyone likes it is when vets solo it

[rose nova]

'oh its too long, oh its too easy, oh the tp is borin, oh the final part is the only cool alarm'

i just think its neat

[jade iron]

otherwise, it stomps noob teams, and vets complain that it's far too easy for a c tier

[hidden path]

Well, the devs made it far too easy due to the 1.0 attracting many new players

If only they were transparent and actually told us the rundown would be easier for new players, at least we would've understood and be like "oh, okay, that's fair"

But they didn't say anything, so the wave of disappointment came when vets realized the rundown was way too easy compared to R5

Also, personal thought, pretty sure it was unlucky but during 1.0 I met the worst and most toxic players I could ever imagine in this game, most of them new to the game if not all

[livid gulch]

scattergun

[wraith marsh]

this is gtfo, thats normal

[hidden path]

[jade iron]

people would've still spent 6 months clawing at the walls because r6 was the only content available

I think the most legit issues really were probably the lack of optionals, and a few guns being overtuned, notably r6 sniper

[hidden path]

R6 sniper was funny

But yeah, I mean it was a lot of content for new players but very little for vets

[jade iron]

maybe they should've also rethought through how to string new players through a story, so r6c1 didn't have this weird dilemma where it crushes new teams while vets hate how easy it is

[hidden path]

Guess they didn't want to compensate for that

Yeah, maybe that whole "let's make the first level of every tier incredibly easy and story driven" wasn't a good idea

[wraith marsh]

it wasnt lol

[hidden path]

Kinda miss when every mission was tied together, or almost all of them, like in R2 or R3

[wraith marsh]

they shouldve heavily pushed for at least main only on the rest of the tier before moving up

[hidden path]

Also new players getting instant access to lower tiers... I mean I'm not fully against that but during R6 it really had it's consequences

People in D3 who only finished the story levels and never player a D tier mission in their life

I dunno man, I'm heavily biased since I had the worst of the worst experiences with new players in 1.0

[jade iron]

I don't know, they would obviously want the later story levels to feel like they're big climactic events where the players did something big. That means it looks sus if the final story level isn't in D.

and I don't think you can be like, "story ending is for vets only," because story is kinda something that you pitch at a more casual audience who aren't going to put anywhere near the same grind in

[hidden path]

Yeah

I mean I like the lore but I'm not gonna be replaying the same level because "I like the story of it"

[deep otter]

just used the pump action shotgun

https://tenor.com/view/always-sunny-frank-oh-my-god-i-get-it-gif-22328165

[hidden path]

Epic embed fail

[deep otter]

if i had embed perms this would be my reaction

[hidden path]

Pump action is pretty fun to use

Used to be the gun for soloing moms

[jade iron]

if anything, maybe they should've done something where they carved up the rundown screen into "story" and "everything else", and made the story levels even easier

then stack the "everything else" side with hard stuff and optionals

[hidden path]

Yeah

R7 was a bit better in that aspect I think

Although to me R7 felt like the devs weren't sure about what to do

The difficulty was spiking out of nowhere

[jade iron]

r7 dumpsters noobs in c1, I think they just thought "oh well, we can't please both groups with c1 so lets lean towards vets"

[hidden path]

It mean R7 is fine, but still I could feel the lack of determination in some levels lol

[jade iron]

I still don't get people who were like, "yeah finally a hard rundown, r7 rules"

[hidden path]

Although I liked the new world animations though

[jade iron]

like, sure c1 is harder than its r6 counterpart

[hidden path]

Yeah, R7 isn't hard imo

R7E1 is just annoyance simulator lol

It's a D level disguised as E tier

C3 is probably the only level where I think it fits

Maybe C2 as well

[jade iron]

yeah people were actively saying "r7e1 sucks" and "yay r7 is a hard rundown" in almost the same breath

[hidden path]

B1 and B2 are just Zzz, B3 is cool but the ending is pretty RNG based.

C1 was cool, the intro to the snatcher was pretty nice.

Although sometimes the level felt like a B tier, then suddenly escalated to C, then back to B

[storm quartz]

"R7E1 Sucks" but 95% of lobbys cheese and permacheese to get a fuck ton of resources

[hidden path]

Well, I never cheesed R7E1 and I still believe it sucks imo

[jade iron]

I think r7e1 has its ups and downs

but it took us weeks to get the r7e1 duo, so it might be stockholm syndrome

[livid gulch]

you "didn't cheese" uh huhhh

[hidden path]

R7E1 felt to me like an E tier tutorial.

[livid gulch]

well I am the second coming of Jesus

[hidden path]

Nah, I don't cheese tbh

[jade iron]

if you didn't need to babysit pablo between the first scan and the arena scan while someone delivers a cell, it could've been much improved

[hidden path]

If you don't believe me it's on you man

[jade iron]

oh and change the arena-adjacent tiles, the arena is genuinely fun to shoot if you don't foam it

[hidden path]

True

I wish Pablo wasn't just a tank without tumors

And tiny, as well, apparently Pablo is just a mini tank

[livid gulch]

well, would tricking pablo into an AFK spot be counted as "cheese"

[hidden path]

Others did it, I didn't

[storm quartz]

Immortal could have been so much better

[hidden path]

Whenever I had the babysit duty I would just turn around a corner

[livid gulch]

oh so your teammates cheesed for you, you're pretty close there boy lmao

[jade iron]

even with pablo as is, if the first scan funnelled into the arena scan without the bullshit in between, maybe with a second scan in between and/or an error going to just keep the momentum going, I think it could've been an awesome action sequence

[hidden path]

I mean it's their choice

I do my stuff, they do theirs

[storm quartz]

They really should have just had you keep pushing forward into the zone scan instead of backtracking

[livid gulch]

but I guess big thonk cause it doesn't affect you directly
although could give an indirect advantage that the AFK guy doesn't go down

[hidden path]

I dunno man, I don't care about R7E1 merit

I don't like it regardless lol

[livid gulch]

ah something we can agree on

shit level

[hidden path]

It's about not liking it, not deserving to not liking it

[livid gulch]

yeah

the only exciting part is the reactor really

rest is more just grind sludge for reasons™️

well more so a failed attempt at a unique level

[jade iron]

reactor is also kinda weird

like, the first three waves are pretty mild

in general there's no waveclear in r7e1

the reactor code zones aren't bad, but the first three are a bit quick and they're really relying on squeezing you on time/ammo to make up the difficulty of the thing

which is interesting for a reactor I guess

[storm quartz]

the only reactor that doesn't give you a fuck load of ammo

[jade iron]

I find it weird that we could go in duo with choke mods and not get punished for lack of waveclear, in an e tier

[livid gulch]

because theres a lack of a fuck load of ammo?

[jade iron]

nah, you could at least stack the earlier alarms with more enemies

for the reactor itself I guess it's a finer balance to strike, how many uses of ammo to add in order to add how much to the waves

[storm quartz]

Choke works ok on reactors, your range makes up for your long reload

[livid gulch]

I uh shoot gun

[vestal crystal]

wat?

its an adrenaline rush to afk at a terminal for 3 min?

[gaunt inlet]

@rose nova, the spear, Bullpup, Precision Rifle, Auto Sentry has not failed me. I did my first playthrough (and with 3 bots) on R1D1 and was able to complete it. It's not much but I am pretty happy with those results. The thermal scope was surprisingly handy because I had no idea what was coming at the end of the mission.

[mint light]

All considered the worst in their class. Proving even the worse weapons in the game are viable to finish easy content

[steep vessel]

game is gay I hate playihng unlicensed alien '

[signal plaza]

mom path was pain

[signal plaza]

I'd argue machine pistol is terrible in most scenarios and bullpup is meh in all scenarios but at least versatile

[brisk spruce]

We need one more guy for the R1C1 anyone available?

@everyone ^

[graceful cliff]

any loadout recommendations for soloing the game without any bots ?

[vestal crystal]

tool is heavily dependent on the level, and guns are mostly up to preference

[thick temple]

do you really think that @ everyone works in a server this big

[mint light]

Lfg channels

#how-to-matchmake

[vestal crystal]

but for primary, dmr, hel revolver, or carbine and pdw are common picks by solo players, and for specials, it depends on the level as well. shotgun, sniper, and hel gun are what i see the most

[graceful cliff]

ty

I'll probably suffer from doing this but i want to do it 🗿

[junior latch]

one of those 2 can actually use its ammo reserve to spam down enemies

The other cant and needs to reload for ages

[sweet tinsel]

hello im downloading the game right now i have no clue wtf im gonna do if anyone wanna join me and teach me some shit im from EU

[left kelp]

There's a tutorial level just so you know

[sweet tinsel]

i know.......many tutorials made you good at the game or explain in detail for everthing and tactis?

[left kelp]

You kinda just learn those as you play with other people

[graceful cliff]

I just did it like 30 mins ago, you'll learn the basics and that's it

[coarse grail]

the other levels introduce more difficult elements bit by bit so you can consider that an extended tutorial

[left kelp]

People are willing to answer your questions if you have any though, or just lfg since that's how you actually get to join a lobby (or host one)

[graceful cliff]

btw are ennemies spawing at the same place every time ?

[mint light]

R1 is the extended tutorial

[mint light]

no

[graceful cliff]

cauz i already died in my first rundown

oh

💀

[coarse grail]

enemy positions, resources and objective items are all repositioned each time

[graceful cliff]

so i can't learn the level layout

[coarse grail]

The room layouts are the same but the stuff in it is changed

[mint light]

I mean you will beat R1A1 but soloing the game is straight up impossible. Lets see how far you make it before hitting a wall

[coarse grail]

rather the map is the same

Oh you're doing true solo?

good luck

[mint light]

map is same, zones for objectives are the same. enemies and Items will spawn differently tho

[graceful cliff]

yes i know it is supposed to be a co-op game

but i don't have any mic + i want to learn a bit before trying co-op

[left kelp]

Goodluck

[graceful cliff]

i don't want my ass to be carried over and over without learning anything

[coarse grail]

its a good attitude to have, you should play with bots at least though

[mint light]

that's absolutely fine. And you can do some content solo. Just managing expectations. cause the whole game ? nah

[sweet tinsel]

@tear i dont think that game can someone carry you everyting seems co-op

[coarse grail]

nah people basically can carry

[sweet tinsel]

lol

[graceful cliff]

we will see 💀

[mint light]

You def can be carried

[mint light]

well you would literally be the first 😅😅

[coarse grail]

if you play with a pro player who wants to go fast they will kill all the enemies before you see them

[sweet tinsel]

there is a fast way to co-op in the game?

[graceful cliff]

with discord i guess

[left kelp]

Me and 2 others played R2E1 with someone that has only been playing for 1 week and got pretty far in the run before we died in the fog error, lil bro held his ground well enough considering he's not used to dealing with shadows

[mint light]

Discord channels

[sweet tinsel]

i mean there is not matchmaking?

[graceful cliff]

oshit 💀

[mint light]

There is but it's ded. as community all flocked here

[mint light]

yeah, straight up 😅

[graceful cliff]

like i can only true solo the first level ?

[mint light]

watch the spoilers tho. they new

[sweet tinsel]

i like how we talking solo in a co-op based game

[mint light]

Nah all levels except for 3 have been true soloed

[graceful cliff]

by randoms like me or like by pro players

[mint light]

But like by 3 or 5 individuals with 5k hours

[graceful cliff]

who have like over 3000 hours

oshit

[gray pilot]

Nerds

[vestal crystal]

[left kelp]

You can defo solo R1B1

It'll take time and patience though

[mint light]

For you it will depend how much you will understand the game and how much time and effort you willing to put in

[graceful cliff]

i already died 2 times 💀

[mint light]

Otherwise first wall would probably be R1C1

[graceful cliff]

i didn't prepared for an alarm

and before i can see my health i'm dead

[vestal crystal]

just play with bots first, they make it a lot easier

having 4 tools vs 1 tool helps a lot

[graceful cliff]

nah

i want to learn the hard way

i want to at least true solo the first 2 levels

[mint light]

👍 well. enjoy the ride

[graceful cliff]

what i can't post any screenshots

like i throwed a grenade and there are some green shits on the ground

[junior latch]

Bots dont help in (or make it harder to) stealth. They just make solo holding alarms less of an issue youll run into lol

[coarse grail]

I'm worried you're gonna get fed up with the game if you're trying to solo R1A1 to start

Its really not easy

[gusty burrow]

Well, they can help you clear up multikills/giant kills, if inconsistently

[coarse grail]

but you do you

[little ridge]

The fact that they dont trigger anything also means less host bias needed

[signal plaza]

R7A1 is one of the easier solos

along with maybe R4A2?

[junior latch]

its the easiest

r4a2 in og maybe

alt r4a2 main is a lot harder to solo for beginners

[signal plaza]

fair

[graceful cliff]

i'll update you guys once i give up to true solo or once i beat the shit out of R1A1

[signal plaza]

I don’t remember the layout of alt R4A2

only og

it didn’t change as much as R4A1 afaik

[junior latch]

layout is the same basically. Its most in room layouts that changed

but it has longer alarms now

[signal plaza]

ohhh right they made it a class 3

to 44

rightg

?*

[junior latch]

class 2 and 2 (iirc) to 3 and 4

[signal plaza]

this sounds accurate

I’m not completely sure either

[graceful cliff]

what's the differences between each alarms classes

[signal plaza]

second door might have been 3

[little ridge]

number of set of circles

[coarse grail]

the class is the number of sets of scans to complete

[signal plaza]

waves/sets of scans

[graceful cliff]

oh k

so the higher the class, the harder it is

[coarse grail]

yep

[graceful cliff]

[junior latch]

not necessarily

[signal plaza]

in the general rule yeah but it can be misleading

[junior latch]

but its a good estimate

[signal plaza]

for a specific alarm door, a higher class means harder

for the whole game, it can depend

[little ridge]

I'd say that higher=longer is a better estimate

and yeah longer=harder

[signal plaza]

S1s exist though 🥵

[graceful cliff]

i suppose it is an bad idea to not clear rooms around an alarm

[coarse grail]

When would you ever want a higher class alarm than lower?

[little ridge]

That's true but they always tell beforehand if they're S1 or M, right?

[junior latch]

also. Id honestly rank r4a2 above r1a1, r1b1, r2a1, r3a1, r3a2, r4a3 and r5a1 (main onlys)
Obviously r7a1

[signal plaza]

yeah exactly, if the exact same security door with the same surrounding situations would be a higher class it would be harder by definition

[little ridge]

for 100% solo no bots?

[junior latch]

Less about that and more about room layouts and spawn positions mattering a bunch

[signal plaza]

true

[junior latch]

Yes

[signal plaza]

actually, a class S3 might be easier than a class S1

[junior latch]

thats just s1 being unique

[signal plaza]

now that I think about it

yeah true

[junior latch]

its like Surge 3 vs class 5

[graceful cliff]

i'm on james bond mode

[signal plaza]

that’s not the same comparison tho bc S1 and S3 are both S

[graceful cliff]

killing everything without waking them up

[signal plaza]

nice

[graceful cliff]

it's so long

[signal plaza]

good luck

[junior latch]

wdym its like 5 min solo :^ )

[coarse grail]

James Bond ✅
Rambo ❌

[graceful cliff]

hahahahaa

[junior latch]

im not kidding

[graceful cliff]

Rambo mode is quite usefull when an alarm shows up

[signal plaza]

with the buffed alarms yeah I forgot about those though 💀

[graceful cliff]

wat

[mint light]

It's long now! but when you get it it's 16 minutes casually and 5 min when you Speedrunning

[graceful cliff]

WHAT

5 MINS

[little ridge]

assuming they know everything beforehand

[signal plaza]

easiest A1?

ever

[coarse grail]

Eva flexing on the new players 😭

[signal plaza]

which one

R6?

[junior latch]

r7a1

[graceful cliff]

like you're running and killing everything ????

[mint light]

Difference between beginners and speedrunners 😅

[junior latch]

flexing with hani

he a god

[graceful cliff]

i'm the noob god

[coarse grail]

But yeah this is the difference in skill and why we recommend doing some stuff with bots before going soloing 😂

[graceful cliff]

i don't trust bots

[junior latch]

bots are fine

[coarse grail]

I mean they are dirty rats

[junior latch]

they have quirks

[coarse grail]

but they are useful

[junior latch]

but they wont fuck you over in stealth ever

[signal plaza]

the R3 As are the best imo

[mint light]

At least this guy will be alive when skynet takes over

[junior latch]

Gotta make tear a speedrunner as early as possible :^ )

[mint light]

you meant R4 A's and R5A2 as the very very best

[graceful cliff]

ye ye ofc

[coarse grail]

just keep him away from the drama 😛

[little ridge]

I really kinda like R3A3 NGL

[coarse grail]

that dark shadowy place is #gtfo-speed-running, you must never go there

[mint light]

Sleepo coming at us with his ....... takes ig

[junior latch]

Just keep the drama out of there. Easy as that

You know its not me who starts shit lol

[coarse grail]

I know its not you Eva 😛

[signal plaza]

ok R5A2 is THE best

but I mean as a collection

[little ridge]

It's a reactor but it's not too long it makes you fetch codes and has (gasp!) an alarm

[mint light]

It's the best A they ever made

[little ridge]

I think it does what it tries to do quite decently...

[signal plaza]

yeah

[mint light]

I still kinda snooze. guess A tier reactor is just not a fun thing

[signal plaza]

I like R3A2 as well

[little ridge]

no that's bad 😦

[signal plaza]

although it feels more like a B level to me

knowledge wise

[signal plaza]

naaahhh wdym

[graceful cliff]

whaaatt we can reload cancel on this game !!!!

[mint light]

If you have not done R2D1 and start on R3 I can see a lot of new players f'in up yeah

[little ridge]

I struggle to think if I like R4A2-3 PE or R5A2 PE more I'll be honest

[graceful cliff]

omg it's big brain time

[coarse grail]

hell yeah, better get used to that

[signal plaza]

the fact that theres an A level with a gen cluster and dynamic fog

[coarse grail]

its huge on some weapons

[mint light]

@wispy bluff will Hunt him down for this 😂😂

[graceful cliff]

💀

[coarse grail]

Convert the new player to veteran any%

[signal plaza]

oh and 10 giants in the first room

[mint light]

That's easy, just take my crash course through R7E1

[little ridge]

Problem I have with that is that it's a false choice, noone's gonna do the room on the left for first since it's full of fog at 0 cells

And I hate fog

[junior latch]

Do 4way split

[mint light]

altho nowadays I would do R2E1. less spoilers that way

[signal plaza]

it’s cool to teach the beginners how generator clusters work

and how to do tactics around them

like going to the zones in a specific order

[spark dagger]

Does anyone want to play with us? Me and my friend are getting tried of bots

[mint light]

Lfg channels

[coarse grail]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[mint light]

#lfg-beginners

[graceful cliff]

get rid of them by duoing 😎

[signal plaza]

also sneaking the first zone because it’s in fog and coming back later for the giants

that’s cool as well

[coarse grail]

elitism ✅
He's growing up so fast 😭 😭 😭

[mint light]

Ah yes I guess you could sneak it as well

Always shot

[signal plaza]

the intended way to complete R3A2 is very cool/complex for an A level

[little ridge]

Sure I just think it's not a very... complex lesson? You might argue that code hunting reactors aren't either but I find them more interesting

[signal plaza]

oh R3A3 is awesome as well

[mint light]

You underestimate how many new players would just randomly open doors

[signal plaza]

that’s why I was saying the collection of A levels in R3 is just great

[little ridge]

Mayhaps

[signal plaza]

mature objectives compared to the other As

[mint light]

I still stand by R4 and R5A2

[signal plaza]

R4A1 really isn’t all that imaginative

[mint light]

PE's ofc. teaches new players a lot

[little ridge]

I mean those are also As with sectors tbh

[signal plaza]

R4A2 is fun I agree

[mint light]

fair discard that one

[mint light]

exactly !

[signal plaza]

R4A3 extreme feels kind of low effort and tedious to me personally

R4A3 overload is awesome though

[little ridge]

yeah that's true

[mint light]

especially R5A2PE has it's sectors in all the right places 😏

[graceful cliff]

ok i'm now a pro at reload cancel

be ready i'll speedrun this shit

[coarse grail]

lets see it king

[graceful cliff]

(i'm gonna die like 10 more times)

[coarse grail]

tell us when you beat the second alarm 😉

[graceful cliff]

(or even more)

[little ridge]

Yeah considering the sector's layout perhaps it's more of a battle between R5A2 and R4A2, with R5A2 being more unique

[mint light]

first !

[graceful cliff]

WHAT THERE IS A SECOND ONE

[mint light]

first alarm first

[coarse grail]

oh no 😂 😂

[graceful cliff]

😭

[signal plaza]

only fix for A2 would be fixing spawns from the back because damn even decent players can’t clear those scouts before there’s forward spawns

[little ridge]

There's a zone with resources, you can loot that before second alarm

[mint light]

?

[little ridge]

He thinks R4A2

[mint light]

R5A2 has no forward spawns

[graceful cliff]

btw is the spear a good melee weapon

[mint light]

Yeah

[signal plaza]

oh

oop

[mint light]

nah

[signal plaza]

I mean R4A2

[graceful cliff]

cauz i'm in love with the spear

[mint light]

trash it

[coarse grail]

Screenshotted

Dj saying "Yeah" to is the spear good?

[graceful cliff]

why

[little ridge]

And I'll agree that R4A2 forward spawns inside Overload are bullshit

[mint light]

Noooooooooo

[coarse grail]

got my thumbnail for the video now

[little ridge]

The brits and their blackmail tactics

[signal plaza]

for the people that play the level and are actually challenged by it it’s pretty much an RNG thing whether they do or do not have resources left for extreme

[pine root]

Hammer can just do more

[signal plaza]

based on if they had forward spawns in overload

[mint light]

It's slow, you can't run and charge, the only thing it has is range which is negated by hammer being able to close gap by walking/running and charging same time

[little ridge]

I just hate it because it punishes players for no reason other that "tossed coin and you lost"

[graceful cliff]

ok i'm gonna be a knife main

[mint light]

And it stops stam recovery on shove 😂

It's so bad

[graceful cliff]

james bond mode

[mint light]

better. till you encounter a giant

[graceful cliff]

what's a giant

[mint light]

But that's for later

[mint light]

don't worry bout it

[pine root]

Depending on the error you just have to sit two rooms away and wait

[graceful cliff]

💀

[signal plaza]

exactly and the same way R3 had those advanced objectives, this is pretty much the first time players encounter an error alarm: let them teach themselves to leave people behind to defend, the way it is now is just demoralising

[mint light]

basically meta is hammer and..... no thats it actually thanks for listening to my ted talk

[graceful cliff]

lol

so it's hammer or nothing

[mint light]

I still have the recording of OG R3B1

[graceful cliff]

got it

[little ridge]

You mean away from the first overload zone so the horde doesn't trigger the scout?

[pine root]

Yeah

[coarse grail]

I think I remember how the first alarm on that one went...

[little ridge]

Dont they still trigger it if they broke a door with the scout being near it?

[mint light]

Spear is trash. knife and bat are situational but hammer does it all just as good and sometimes better

So

[signal plaza]

if it’s very close to it yes

[graceful cliff]

ok guys i'm at the first alarm

[pine root]

They do but this is a rare occurrence

[graceful cliff]

they will probably beat the shit out of me

[pine root]

6 meters

[mint light]

basically they have not thought mêlee balancing out very well

[graceful cliff]

💀

[little ridge]

And you'd have to push forward into overload anyway

[coarse grail]

how you gonna set up for the alarm bro?

whats your strategy

[little ridge]

So you could still get them to spawn in C while you're in A

[pine root]

You can wait for back spawns

[mint light]

LiES and defamation!!

[graceful cliff]

i got my burst sentry

[pine root]

Like you can control quite a bit about waves

[graceful cliff]

i'll place it just in front of the door

[mint light]

At least he took the good sentry

[signal plaza]

the only strat that I find actually works is pull the alarm, pull door just before second wave spawns and rush the scouts

[graceful cliff]

and voila

git gud

🙂

[coarse grail]

alright fair enough

have at it

[little ridge]

I'd say that you can try to work around it but it's not failproof

[graceful cliff]

last time my sentry killed me

💀

[little ridge]

and the point is that you failing as way too much to do with random chances at that point

[pine root]

Na but there ain’t nothing you can do

[mint light]

don't stand in front

[graceful cliff]

how was i supposed to know

[little ridge]

I mean I cleared it twice and we fucked up all the scouts so it's not a death sentence or anything like that

[graceful cliff]

That my OWN SENTRY

can kill me

[little ridge]

but it feels unfair for no reason imho

[pine root]

Like cell skip hub zone is pretty fucked on zero zero but you can just wait and be fine

[signal plaza]

hear me out: get a spawn cap amount of giants from the cryo zones and spawn cap the error alarm😎

[mint light]

or teammates 😏

[pine root]

Tbh sometimes it just sucks that you get stuck waiting for the wave to work in your favour

[graceful cliff]

never heard about them

[mint light]

Not yet

[pine root]

You also have access to global scream cooldown manipulation

[graceful cliff]

naaaah

[pine root]

With back spawn

[signal plaza]

it’s pretty much a death sentence to any team actually struggling with the level

[little ridge]

I feel like that's going way overboard for something that could be fixed by just having the error only spawning back

[graceful cliff]

can they kill my sentry ???

[pine root]

Which level?

[coarse grail]

no

[little ridge]

no

[graceful cliff]

omg

i got an idea

[signal plaza]

our point was that the error alarm mechanics on overload are not suited for A-B level players

[crisp ore]

use the one you like the most, any rundown can be cleared with you using any melee weapon

[little ridge]

R4A2?

[graceful cliff]

😎

[mint light]

when struggling on A you just not ready for the rest.

[pine root]

Then they would spawn on extract

[graceful cliff]

i'll just close the door with my sentry on the other side

[mint light]

yes. but it's objectively the worst

[graceful cliff]

[mint light]

So what's the deal

[little ridge]

can't that work as in "in the direction of extract"?

[signal plaza]

you can struggle on R4A2 PE and be good enough to do R4B1 or something like that

I remember being clueless trying to beat R4A2 PE

[crisp ore]

ya hammer is the best weapon but it's not really healthy for the game to teach new players that anything aside from hammer is trolling lol

[signal plaza]

just praying for back spawns

[mint light]

Looks at R4B1 sec 👀 no

[signal plaza]

we’re talking about mains

[pine root]

Na if it is in direction of evator ( type 6) they spawn form beginning zone even if you are in it

[signal plaza]

we can’t compare sectors like that

[mint light]

The question specifically was: is the Spear good?

so no it is not

[pine root]

You would have to use the force spawn location

[little ridge]

First R4A2 PE I had on OG I cleared all but overload/extreme 100% solo then asked for people to help me ingame

[pine root]

But then it still has that werid issue where that location you get spawns on you

[mint light]

Also just delete the other melees that would be better for the game. gimme mallet skin back

[mint light]

R4A2PE to R4B1 main is not fair

[signal plaza]

yeah type 6 is only suited for forward extract afaik

[pine root]

Yeah

[crisp ore]

yeah lets have 4 of the same weapon again instead of working out the weapons to have proper variety!!

[coarse grail]

having different melees is fun, gives you different flavours of pub players

[mint light]

yes the right and the wrong ones

[graceful cliff]

I'M DEAD

NOOO

[crisp ore]

ya ever done r7c3 with 4 knives

[coarse grail]

guy who can't kill giants... guy who dies in alarms... guy who won't stop talking about how good the bat is

[graceful cliff]

i almost got it

[signal plaza]

I think an A PE is comparable to between a B main and a C main

[mint light]

yeah and it was unfun

[crisp ore]

sorry to hear that! we didnt clear with 4 knives but we did 4 bats just fine and it was sick

[mint light]

it's not proper variety when one shines and the others lag behind

[signal plaza]

I think if you’re good enough to beat R4B1 you shouldn’t have to roll the dice whether you will or will not clear R4A2 overload/PE

[pine root]

It is just two scouts

Mines are pretty good in the game

[signal plaza]

fair, shoot one is probably the best strat for beginners

[mint light]

felt like I was in london again

[signal plaza]

but it’s stopping players from learning how to play the game

like what is the INTENDED way to clear A2 OL

[mint light]

key word: almost 😏

[pine root]

Run in be good

[signal plaza]

is there a consistent intended way

not really

[pine root]

But we don’t care about the intended way

[graceful cliff]

[signal plaza]

you can have bad sleeper spawn rng and a scream

[pine root]

Yeah

Ik

[crisp ore]

i think the variety can be enhanced by making each of them stronger/weaker in a way to balance them all out to be viable (they're all viable, even if hammer is objectively the best), but to say that hammer being the best weapon just makes the variety non existent is the same as closing your eyes and pretending the other 3 melees arent there

it just doesnt make sense

[pine root]

Just run in it isn’t that scary

[signal plaza]

seems to me like the intended strat on R4A2 OL is “be lucky or be good”

[mint light]

exactly what I do. I pretend they not there

[pine root]

It is be good most overloads are just be good

[graceful cliff]

ok it's hammer time

[crisp ore]

[signal plaza]

nah not if I usually fail the scouts while I’m clearing modded F1s

[graceful cliff]

damn it feels like i'm playing doom

[mint light]

Look you want new players to stick with the game. so instead of handicapping them. you tell em what works best

[signal plaza]

this is completely RNG or you have to sync shot

[pine root]

Probs the best method is pull room go into side room mine and shoot all if you are struggling

Btw

Na

[mint light]

they can switch when they got better

[pine root]

Just pull scout

It doesn’t matter that much

[signal plaza]

yeah

[mint light]

😂👍

[signal plaza]

that’s the strat id tell people to use

[pine root]

Or wait for scream then run in

[signal plaza]

shoot one trigger the othe

[pine root]

You have 30 seconds

[signal plaza]

minus the time to open the door if you don’t keep track properly

[coarse grail]

I'm not sure how far into the bulkhead door open animation enemies can spawn within

[mint light]

halfway

you need to wait for spawn, then immediatly pull door

[pine root]

You can just run two rooms away

[signal plaza]

yeah so you have like 20 seconds

[pine root]

And wait to make progress

Like you can open then wait for back spawn plus scream

[mint light]

Ot tbh. tank the scout waves

it's not that bad

[pine root]

Yeah I agree but they are telling me it is rng

[signal plaza]

you can get forward spawns which will run through the rooms, probably won’t wake anything up but while they’re running through the rooms you can’t go in either so you have to wait for back spawns again

[pine root]

When you can control scout waves like 99% of the time

[mint light]

OG R4B2ovl wants a word with you

[signal plaza]

I’m saying that it seems like there’s no intentional way to do this consistently

[pine root]

Yeah it is a painful experience waiting for waves

Borning as fuck tbh

[graceful cliff]

damn i'm clearing faster and faster each time

speedrun incoming

[mint light]

How do you think Eva did the 5 minutes

[graceful cliff]

[mint light]

1.5k hours of training

1.5k hours was only R1A1 😂

[signal plaza]

eh that’s usually one scout per room though, maybe one room with two

[graceful cliff]

easy 😎

[coarse grail]

probably 100 hours on TRAINING too

gotta get that 4:08

[pine root]

4:07 is real

[mint light]

still stuck in training. don't even know what the game looks like 😭

I am a fraud

[pine root]

Trust me bro

[latent palm]

Training speedrun real?

No cap?

[signal plaza]

watch me do it in 4:06

[coarse grail]

If I had better hotkeys for sliding I could probs do it in 4:06

[mint light]

Sorry to burst your bubble but someone has put up a 4:04 run

[latent palm]

Which level we talking here

[signal plaza]

T

[coarse grail]

Training

[latent palm]

Oh y

Thats kinda rad

[signal plaza]

I’m being… assessed?

[little ridge]

eheheheh he said "ass"

[signal plaza]

funifuni

[pine root]

Link?

[mint light]

Ok ok Def italian

[signal plaza]

I did a funny

[mint light]

can't find it?

[coarse grail]

inb4 its a rickroll

[pine root]

Yeah tbh cause that would be insane time save would firgure it would be on the speed run archives

[mint light]

guess the 4:04 run wasn't ..... found😎

[signal plaza]

training zone 78 any% speedrun

[pine root]

Ah shit

[signal plaza]

who’s on

in

[coarse grail]

😂

[pine root]

I got got.

Okay but for real the 4:07

It is real

[mint light]

Commitment and sheer will

[graceful cliff]

is there is a way to like kill in a sneaky way 2 aliens who are next to each other

[coarse grail]

yep just hit the second alien as its waking up

in the head, and the back too ideally

[pine root]

When they are waking up it takes a bit

[mint light]

Wack no1 and you should be able to wack no2 just before it can attack

[coarse grail]

you don't need to full charge to kill them

[vestal crystal]

👽 👽 👉 💀 💀

[coarse grail]

if you hit it in a weakspot

[graceful cliff]

ooooooh

that's why

💀

[signal plaza]

“4:07 isn’t real, it can’t hurt you”

4:07:

[graceful cliff]

it cost me 15% of my health learning this

[pine root]

With hammer you can kill two sleepers at once if you aim perfectly

[mint light]

around 75%-80% charge is enuff

[pine root]

Definitely a useful skill

[mint light]

yeah but that's kind off iffy to get right

[signal plaza]

about 55 percent is enough as well

[graceful cliff]

like i aim between theses 2 ?

in full charge ?

[mint light]

If at the back of head

[pine root]

It isn’t but it is perfect

[signal plaza]

no front of head

I always do this

about 55 percent maybe 60

[little ridge]

back of head requires very little charge with hammer on strikers

[signal plaza]

back of head is like 20-30

I believe

[little ridge]

and none at all on shooters, assuming very good occiput

[signal plaza]

uncharged on shooters yea

[mint light]

I member when taps worked

[graceful cliff]

i hate shooters

[little ridge]

It's hard to gauge the % based on the circle for me but I usually charge very very little

[graceful cliff]

i can't dash

[little ridge]

the good ol' days

[graceful cliff]

so they always hit me

[mint light]

When I was young and beautifull

[little ridge]

Move camera around+press C at the right time

[mint light]

Now am just beautifull

[graceful cliff]

what's C for

[little ridge]

crouch, slides

[pine root]

Shove

[signal plaza]

I usually charge 60 anyways because there’s really no reason to go for occiput over head on a live enemy imo

[pine root]

Quick shove from gun

Insanely useful

[graceful cliff]

wait we can slide ???????

[pine root]

Not until 200 hours

[mellow osprey]

hello, does he have French

[pine root]

Not like you think

[signal plaza]

you have to unlock sliding

[graceful cliff]

how

[mint light]

it's Ammo*

[little ridge]

I usually just charge as much as I can tbh

[pine root]

Crouch while run

[mellow osprey]

what ?

[mint light]

on est sur le discord FR.

[pine root]

1 second between them

[mint light]

nvm

[little ridge]

We have french, yes, our most notorious model is a DJDNA

[mellow osprey]

oh super tu as un lien ?

[signal plaza]

that’s fair, probably same here, you need like 70 percent for a back kill so just as much as you can afford

[graceful cliff]

OOOH

I see

[mint light]

j'te DM

[pine root]

It isn’t very useful but you can do some goofy shit with it

Tbh you shouldn’t learn it rn

[graceful cliff]

||je dis pas non pour le lien ||

[mint light]

y a un groupe je crois ils font la première mission

[pine root]

Cause it is way to much apm for what you get out of it

[mint light]

xD

[signal plaza]

slide cancelling is good for stamina correctv

?*

[graceful cliff]

i'm used to high apm game

[mint light]

😎😎

[pine root]

It is but if you aren’t managing your other stam usage perfectly it doesn’t matter

Less than 10% of stam can be saved with it

[signal plaza]

I hate the stamina system

I like the idea

[pine root]

I enjoy it tbh

[mint light]

btw check @graceful cliff 's discord profile name

[pine root]

Jump probs costs to much

Spear cost to much

[mint light]

you should enjoy it of all peeps

[little ridge]

😆 tiramisu'

[pine root]

And shove Costs to much

[graceful cliff]

🗿

[signal plaza]

I don’t like how much jump costs I think jumping was a good skill thing

[pine root]

But that is about it

It was

[signal plaza]

luckily I disabled it🥳

[pine root]

No unbind jump is better 99% of the time

Lol

[signal plaza]

yeah jump is only good for scouts and giants

[pine root]

And the forbidden tech!!!!

[coarse grail]

jump is nice for keeping dodge momentum

[little ridge]

well you can abuse some pathing in some tiles with it

[signal plaza]

but stamina

[little ridge]

zone 69 of r1d1

jump over bridge to catwalk and back

[coarse grail]

If it dodges a hit its worth

[signal plaza]

okay fair jump is good for traversing as well

[little ridge]

they cant follow you so they take the longer way around

[signal plaza]

depends on your situation

[coarse grail]

Not saying you should be strafe jumping all the time but if an enemy kinda takes you by surprise its good

[signal plaza]

Id rather tank a hit than take 4 later because I’m at 200 bpm

[pine root]

Jump can dodge one tounge but screw your stam for the next one

It is dependent situation

[coarse grail]

Yeah like you said, depends on situation

its good sometimes

I'm not picturing long kiting

[signal plaza]

if you’re kiting a scout wave and you dodge the first or second sleeper with jump you screwed yourself

[pine root]

Most of the time that is what i need to think about in pubs

Long kited way to many times in alt r5 already

[signal plaza]

I hate long kiting but the kind of jousting kiting is fine to me (and jump is very useful there so fuck stamina)

as in

I don’t like stamina

jump impact

it’s not really circle kiting if it’s basically a slightly circly line right

right🥺

[little ridge]

"It's not a circle if it's basically a circle, right?" -Grogu's Bathwater

[signal plaza]

imma play sum

lemme just fix my heartrate at 60

just to complain

[mint light]

Famous GTFO quotes: "it's just an A level, how bad can it be"

[graceful cliff]

I'm so bad at this game

i can't even pass the first alarm

[pine root]

Are you using tool?

[graceful cliff]

yes

[pine root]

Well not very well

[graceful cliff]

💀

[mint light]

😂

[pine root]

Do you have bots with you

[graceful cliff]

no

[signal plaza]

he’d have to use mines

or auto sentry potentially

[pine root]

Why are you doing this to yourself man

[mint light]

mines will work for the first wave

[signal plaza]

as a substitute for foam

[pine root]

This game is hard

[mint light]

ok stop it

[pine root]

You should learn with bots first

[little ridge]

You can find expls tripmine in first zone if you're lucky

[signal plaza]

nah I’m saying auto sentry is good for solo

[graceful cliff]

💀

[pine root]

No shame In it

[mint light]

True. best bet probably

[graceful cliff]

i want to do a true solo mission

[pine root]

you can come back to it

[signal plaza]

gonna get effed on second scan tho

[pine root]

Or do b1 true solo

It is easier

Tbh

[little ridge]

Devi camminare prima di correre uaglio' (You need to walk before you run)

[signal plaza]

I did R5B1 OL solo

not pe tho

ex is so tedious

[mint light]

Papeti poopi

[pine root]

Good ahit

[little ridge]

bippidi boppidi

[signal plaza]

yeah extreme is basically impossible alone

you’d have to juggle fog turbine and cells

[pine root]

Ummm

[signal plaza]

or maybe use infect resist boosters

[pine root]

Or just

[signal plaza]

but then you’ll get screwed on reactor

[pine root]

Go very slow

It is just a cell walk

[mint light]

Hippity hoppity, your mums booty is now my property

[pine root]

You can clear all the zones

Then do the cell walk In Peace

[signal plaza]

true

I prefer not clearing all the zones tho

just plugging cells in

[pine root]

It is a cringe secondary

I agree

[signal plaza]

it’s boring

and you can’t even do it solo by tanking the infection because at 15 you’ll get one tapped

[mint light]

weapons?

[pine root]

Idk dude he just started

It will be faster if he just does b1

[mint light]

that's why

[pine root]

Much easier level to true solo

Only have to do one alarm

[mint light]

He does not have B1 unlocked 😂

[pine root]

Play it with bots

!

[graceful cliff]

TR22 Hanaway, Buckland S870 and sentry turret

[pine root]

Use their real names

Like shotgun

And dmr

[mint light]

Uhm pump shotgun and

ah dmr

try carbine a bit

[pine root]

Dw I got you I am a nerd

[pine root]

Which sentry

[mint light]

It's aight. you still human

[graceful cliff]

one shotting them with one bullet is so satisfying