gtfo-chat

[analog flicker]

Mods?

[woeful spire]

yeah, mods

[analog flicker]

Most mod users are QoL

[woeful spire]

except when they dont

[sharp owl]

they didnt even implement the kick option from lobbies

what u expecting

[analog flicker]

The hackers however can and may spawn enemies in/ troll you and etc

[woeful spire]

yes, been there. ruined the run

[analog flicker]

The mod manager most people use doesn't easily even allow people to spawn stuff and etc like that

[woeful spire]

im also against mods that cheat our way to extraction

spawning cfoam grenades, disabling scout, etc

[analog flicker]

Again. If you know what Mods are available to the mod managers and etc.

Most don't do stuff like that.

[woeful spire]

"most" is the keyword

[latent palm]

Im me mom di

[analog flicker]

Many people initially come here and can't tell the difference between the Hackers and the modded users

[stray geyser]

ko

[analog flicker]

By Most. I'm referring to the majority of mods that aren't Rundowns and etc. None

[woeful spire]

nothing against mods, if u want to win that way u do u

just dont ruin it for others

vanillia run is too hard to ask

[analog flicker]

I've said people don't get the difference between the hackers and Modded users

When coming here initially

[latent palm]

@analog flicker kill this mf

[mint light]

Most players play vanilla

[latent palm]

@stray geyser

[woeful spire]

ive encountered a few too many non vanillia players

[mint light]

Here or ingame MM?

[woeful spire]

here

[latent palm]

I can confirm that as a solid state ment

[mint light]

report em then

[analog flicker]

[stray geyser]

cc ri

[woeful spire]

if only

[analog flicker]

Wouldn't be the first time someone's come and complained about it

[woeful spire]

they need hard proof

[analog flicker]

Oh no. They know

Trust us.

It used to be way worse

[woeful spire]

ive never really had any issues prior to official 1.0 release

[mint light]

send them proof the

[woeful spire]

most of it was just cheesing the run

[analog flicker]

Prior to 1.0 release was when it was worse ngl

[woeful spire]

ymmv

[junior latch]

?

[woeful spire]

proof is easier said than done

[junior latch]

"cheesing the run"

[analog flicker]

🧀

[woeful spire]

cheese like going to a spot on the map where the enemies can't reach you

[analog flicker]

I'm sorry. But that's just shit game design on the devs part ain't it

[woeful spire]

true, ive noticed most spots on the alt rundown has been fixed

[analog flicker]

[woeful spire]

but my problem isnt even with that

[junior latch]

i mean, theres always gonna be spots like that

unless you want full invisible walls back

which suck

[woeful spire]

honestly, just here to rant and maybe bring awareness

[junior latch]

also those have nothing to do with cheaters (with mods etc)

[woeful spire]

i know they dont

it was a sidetrack

[latent palm]

It is way worse with cheaters

[woeful spire]

i agree

[latent palm]

Already caught 4 instances and brought it up here b4

Just send lobby codes in dms and ur good

[woeful spire]

yeah, it is the ppl who do it discreetly that bugs me

[latent palm]

As a mod enjoyer I agree

[woeful spire]

finding out 2 hours into the expedition

rather wipe at that point

[latent palm]

You know

There is a kick player mod

Use that

Kill the heretic

[woeful spire]

still cant save the run tho

[latent palm]

You can

Using local progression

[analog flicker]

to rid of the modded users. you must use mods

ironic

(even though some people play modded for the fixes)

[latent palm]

Fixes?

[analog flicker]

shotgun centerfire/Damage sync etc

[latent palm]

Oh

Yeah that

[opaque stag]

anyone else think 556 rifle should be called carbine while carbine should be called burst smg?

[latent palm]

Nah

[opaque stag]

rifle is way too generic

[latent palm]

Carbine cause the dmgs

Rifle because its a semi

[opaque stag]

pretty sure carbine is a small rifle

[analog flicker]

by definition. AR can also be a carbine

[latent palm]

But the dmg

The DMGs!!!

[opaque stag]

carbine dmg per shot is similar to smg dmg isn't it?

it's less than burst rifle

[latent palm]

Bruh

[signal plaza]

SHIT I WANT THAT

[latent palm]

Its the highest dmg main

[signal plaza]

mod list mod helps find people who use cheesy mods

[analog flicker]

dps*

[signal plaza]

if you cant beat em join em

[opaque stag]

yeah dps

[latent palm]

Kick player/ remember players

Both to find and kill any heretics

[signal plaza]

great

I’ll get it

[analog flicker]

muh genshin flashlight

[signal plaza]

add it to my list of “legit” mods

[latent palm]

No problem dude

Just dont kill me

[signal plaza]

I had a dependency the other day for some solo mode mod

[latent palm]

Heh

[signal plaza]

configurable global wave settings

[latent palm]

PT

[opaque stag]

ah good idea

call 556 the combat rifle

[signal plaza]

yeah so obviously when I disabled the mod I forgot to disable the dependencies

next game I ran D2 with my, to my knowledge, tiny and non impactful list of mods

let’s just say some alarms spawn tanks

where they’re not supposed to

and I had no idea

I was playing with two people I knew as well and the third was a rando so we called him out for cheating when really it was just a stupid dependency

[analog flicker]

Van Auken CAB F4 would classify as a PCC iirc (Pistol Caliber Carbine)

[signal plaza]

carbine is way too good for this game

[latent palm]

Heh

First time?

[signal plaza]

first time finding out you screwed over a lobby unintentionally?

yea

[latent palm]

Yep

I also did too

And got a lfg ban

[signal plaza]

oh damn

[latent palm]

Even tho I announced the use of dem mods

[analog flicker]

don't forget.
SMG range is 6m
Carbine Range is 10m
Burst Rifle is 20m

[latent palm]

I like how they just shit on my chest after they fucked up whole run too

[signal plaza]

honestly like 20 percent of players are using mods at this point from what I can see

[analog flicker]

this is before the damage begins falling

[latent palm]

Anygame is gud with mods

Playing ark survival evolved no mods

[opaque stag]

the only mod i need is getting rid of screen shake when being hit and sprinting while reloading

like, fucks sakes one striker hits me and i flinch 90 degrees

[analog flicker]

Lego star wars without mods.

[signal plaza]

ehhhhhh most of them use double jump, perfect boosters (I am also guilty of this one at times) heroic heart etc

[latent palm]

Thats kinda cheese but who the fuq cares

[latent palm]

Thats what i use

[analog flicker]

while I understand that one. I also find it cheating in a sense

[latent palm]

But sure if you dont want em i can disable

[signal plaza]

heroic heart is fine to me I won’t call someone out for that one

but double jump

[opaque stag]

at least REDUCING the shake

[analog flicker]

I'd say the opposite. fucking guy was just speeding everywhere and kiting.

[signal plaza]

I always run sniper and this mod sounds like god mode to me

[latent palm]

I have it but i never use it

[signal plaza]

okay but that actually used to be in the game

stamina wasn’t a thing until R6

[latent palm]

Idk why

[signal plaza]

sure the levels have been modified to match that difficulty

[analog flicker]

The punishment for getting hit

[signal plaza]

yeah just sidestep smh

[analog flicker]

everything before r6 was considered early access

[latent palm]

Side step is fun

[analog flicker]

but yeah

[signal plaza]

I played back then though

stamina felt like a slap in the face

and not a good one

[analog flicker]

not wrong

but it's what we deal with now

[signal plaza]

mhm

I tend to lock my heartrate at 100-120

so I don’t perform 100%

but I don’t have to worry about it either

[analog flicker]

100 pulse is like. the speed you need to be to just out run sleepers iirc

just before you become too slow

[signal plaza]

my hammer icon is ever so slightly orange which means I nerfed myself right🙃🥺

I like the fact that long kiting is almost dead now

I hate having to watch my stamina and not being able to jump while in combat

I feel like that was actually a skill

[analog flicker]

bunny hopping is essentially bad now

[signal plaza]

yeah because it costs stamina

[analog flicker]

the habit people do now is slide cancelling

[signal plaza]

mhm

[analog flicker]

doesn't speed you up like before

[signal plaza]

which isn’t even faster anymore

exactly

[analog flicker]

but it preserves stamina for longer

effectively making you slightly faster but it's small enough to not matter

[signal plaza]

I do like that they slightly modified error alarms now

[analog flicker]

min-max type shit

[signal plaza]

idk when they did it

but once an error wave is clear my heartrate seems to drop to 60 like normal and I can run and not get above 130 until the next wave spawns

and battle music stops sometimes as well

[analog flicker]

combat mode bug imo

since you only go to 60 in calm state

[signal plaza]

yeah but id say it’s more of a fix than a bug

[analog flicker]

your pulse floats around 90 in combat state

[signal plaza]

because if no error enemies are alive why would we have to be in combat state

[analog flicker]

effectively. alarms and errors do that-

[signal plaza]

yeah I know so if combat mode actually bugs and disabled during error alarm when there’s no enemies that feels like a feature to me

even though it’s probably a bug

[analog flicker]

more so a bug yeah

[signal plaza]

because I never read anything like it in patch notes

[analog flicker]

because when 1 enemy from alarm doors gets stuck far away

the combat state can fade

[signal plaza]

yep

[analog flicker]

distance thing io

imo*

the distance is what changed at some point

[signal plaza]

I just love clearing an alarm, walking into a room with scouts and halfway through the room you hear a very distant scream behind

[analog flicker]

because whole rooms don't wake anymore either ( assuming it's big enough)

[signal plaza]

one straggler

[signal plaza]

from shots yeah from screams still seems like whole room to me

disregarding room dividers

[analog flicker]

funny considering I call them room connectors

[signal plaza]

I guess that makes sense as well

but there’s an invisible sound barrier

so the room is divided right

or do you just see it as two rooms combined instead of one room split

I see it as a room split into two areas usually

[analog flicker]

path not blocked by door

[signal plaza]

all my homies hate room dividers

[analog flicker]

hence sound in both rooms are connected

iirc

it's like

[signal plaza]

sound isn’t connected though

only gunshots

[analog flicker]

40m -10m each connector right?

and yeah I'm referring to gunshots

[signal plaza]

gunshots, movement and melee misses are distance based and the rest is area based

[signal plaza]

yeah but I can have a scout scream on the verge of a room divider and it won’t wake up the enemy 2 meters away on the other side

so sound would be too broad then

how much sound do open sec doors surpress btw

also 10m?

[analog flicker]

^^^^^^^^

[signal plaza]

fair fair

and how many meters of sound do turrets make

[analog flicker]

and security door ways don't differ in the sound reduction iirc

turrets I reckon just make a gunshot sound but then again. I never looked into it as.
the likely hood someone fucks up and places a sentry like that are slim next to none

[signal plaza]

nah sentries have way less sound

try it

[junior latch]

also doesnt work anymore unless you do it with high ping while blackhopping basically

[junior latch]

turrets are pretty quiet

[wispy bluff]

Like one room quiet, 10m quiet?

[signal plaza]

not 10m but close

like 20

feels like

15 maybe

[analog flicker]

funny considering when I said it. I was thinking more in how people just naturally bunny hopped everywhere. this was before people used it as a stealth tech

[junior latch]

"naturally bhopped" ?
when was that supposed to be a thing

[analog flicker]

just hopping around as you sprint from point A to point B

[junior latch]

yea but when

[analog flicker]

R1 type shit

[junior latch]

ah you mean people being impatient and spamming buttons

[analog flicker]

basically

but doing it now.

you become slower if you do it

[junior latch]

[proven steppe]

Where can I read more about BlackHopping

I tried to blackhop but I can't do much velocity after picking up the RTX 3080

[abstract cosmos]

heck me we just hit 98% on our extraction scan in R2D2

[burnt flume]

It needs a macro or being able to spam the jump input on several input devices at once

Iirc anyway, ask wesley

[proven steppe]

Yea I setup the macro accordingly to the Speedrunner guide

0.01 interval and shit but I just dont understand by the meaning of Jump + Run + Pick Up

the velocity creator (?)

[sharp owl]

if i joined in someone's lobby playing stage i have not unlocked yet and win does that stage mark done for me when i get to unlock it?

[burnt flume]

Yes you get the completion

[sharp owl]

sweeet! thanks

[burnt flume]

basically you time a sprint jump for when you pick up the item to get more speed

[proven steppe]

Hmm

Sprint jump as in the moment you picked up or

Before you pick up

[gusty burrow]

When the pickup bar is at ~90%, you sprint jump

[burnt flume]

Just before you're about to pick it up, so it enters your hand midair

[proven steppe]

So I need to be in mid air while picking it up?

Ah ok

[burnt flume]

And then the bhops are to conserve your speed

[gusty burrow]

You can do it for everything btw, not just cells, grab those glowsticks and jump away faster nyooooom

[proven steppe]

I just dislike that you’re slowed af with the RTX 3080 tbh

Cleared like every room but the graphics card or the baby is at spawn

[junior latch]

@proven steppe blackhops are a lot harder as host

[proven steppe]

Im playing with a host that is very far from where I am, so it would be easier right?

I just dont understand how you create the velocity at the first place but ya gonna test out more

[deep otter]

is there a way to kick someone in gtfo..

he just went to do the laundry or something..

[mint light]

sadly no

[deep otter]

oh my days..

[mint light]

make a new lobby, switch VC's

[deep otter]

yeah just strange that they havent implemented a kick system

[junior latch]

yes depending on how bad the ping is the easier it is generally

the basic idea is. start picking up the item
before its actually picked up and slows you down, initiate a sprint jump forward or backwards (i find backwards easier)

then keep jumping

[proven steppe]

Ya especially if you managed to matchmake people then proceed to have Sam, the rusher with gun

[deep otter]

we've all been sam at one point in life

[proven steppe]

Alright thanks!

[junior latch]

Talks about someone rushing

Tries to use speedrun glitches

[proven steppe]

Not the same thing when Sam decided to pull the alarm sequence while half the team is in first room

[true pilot]

sounds like a good time

i am certain sam did not get executed

[proven steppe]

Sam sadly disconnected and ran away from us when we’re all 20% hp

[true pilot]

wow

what a coward

no honour

did not ask for a shame mine

did not fight for his life

🥖

[raven night]

Do you guys know of any mods that make trio play possible for my squad? We only have 3 players and we want to keep it that way, but the game might be too difficult since we're down 1 player :/

[burnt flume]

...

all I can say is

no don't use mods to cheat, if you improve at the game you can handily do any mission with 3 players

[raven night]

Ok but we're bad

(In other words we're beginners)

[true pilot]

Use a bot

one bot for 3 people is easy enough to manage

you just gotta get used to it

[brave urchin]

Hi, I'm new, got a hold of the game. Anyone up to some scavenging? 🥺

[junior latch]

then improve?

we also started out bad

1 player makes it harder, but not that much (also bots yea)

[raven night]

what can we do with bots that can help

[mint light]

give the bot bio and enjoy

[raven night]

bio?

[mint light]

biotracker

[true pilot]

overall bots with bio are great

[raven night]

but how

[brave urchin]

You can change bot's equipments as much as you could with yourself

[true pilot]

they ping stuff that is so far away

and you don’t really need to know tye sleeping enemies locations once you get the hang of things

[robust gull]

classic elitism!

i will not be improving

try again liberal

[sharp siren]

WOWOWOWOWOWO

You cant be suggesting shit like that!?!?!?!

are you insane?

improvement?

[mint light]

How dare people demand improvement for others !

[robust gull]

now if you'll excuse me i'll be randomly joining an r5e1 lobby with auto pistol precision rifle and bringing a 2nd biotracker

plus spear

leave it to the germans to dictate the meta

GROSS

[sharp siren]

you know that instead of improvement and learning we just cheese the fuck out everything

[sharp siren]

man

at this point you might as well be actually reta

[robust gull]

i'm talking about eva settle down 2nd germany

[sharp siren]

YO HABLO ESPANOL

YO SOY HISPANOOOOOO

NO FROM GERMANYYYYYY

STOP

[true pilot]

angry spain noises?

[robust gull]

IS THAT A REFERENCE TO R7E1??

[austere cape]

Ich spreche Deutsch

But not from Germany

[sharp siren]

fr fr no cap

[mint light]

tbf a lot of germans were immigrating to spanish speaking countries somewhere previous century

don't recall when

[robust gull]

the meme has come full circle

@sharp siren consent to a dna test

[sharp siren]

well

[robust gull]

prove to me you have like, 0.4% german genes

[sharp siren]

in my country there are a bunch of german people

argentina too

[mint light]

i did not say I am willing to test him !

[sharp siren]

ancestry dna testing here i come

[mint light]

ngl am goin to do that for my kids

that shit gon be all over the place

[sharp siren]

you already know what i say, that kid aint mine until the paper its in hand!

[robust gull]

unbelievably based

[mint light]

😅 nah not that kind of DNA test

[sharp siren]

hes gonna come out as a DJ

[mint light]

we'll see my daughter is scheduled for the 18th of july

[sharp siren]

woman are amazing, but you gotta take care of yourself out there

[mint light]

true tbh

[silk blade]

If I place a turret facing towards me, would it shoot enemies in the back and do extra damage

[mint light]

no

it will shoot you tho and do damage

[silk blade]

Turrets can't hit weak points for more damage?

[mint light]

not the back, thats for sure

[modern verge]

I believe some if not all can do extra headshot dmg

[silk blade]

That seems weird

[mint light]

it used to be possible even

but they patched it out as being unintended

[silk blade]

Man that's kinda lame

[mint light]

take it up with the devs 😅

[silk blade]

I will go to their homes one by one and ask why they did this

[mint light]

in you DM's found the patch notes

[silk blade]

Yea that kinda blows, it would have been a cool thing to keep since you would then have the choice of placing sentry's facing towards you, the pros being more damage the cons being mobs prob move out of range faster/the turret can hit you

[mint light]

it used to be OP AF tbh

but I guess

[silk blade]

Maybe reduced damage if its too crazy, but complete deletion is a shame

[mint light]

apparently it wass a bug for the whole of R1-R5 ><

[sharp siren]

because its better

it was good back then but it would make shitty meta gaming and even then making sentries face the enemy was effective

sentries are better now

they actually hit their target

[sharp siren]

it wasnt

[mint light]

no but the devs do say it was 😅 but you are right melanistic_dragon

[analog flicker]

Oh shit sniper sentries are one shot occi killing giants??
TAKE AWAY THEIR BACK DAMAGE

FOR ALL SENTRIES

[sharp siren]

I mean sniper sentry was pretty much broken

nothing would survive

except charger since they close the gap quicker

[latent palm]

The 29% cpu speed on sniper before nerf

[ivory pier]

sniper sentry vs big charger

[proven steppe]

Does Sentry get falloff damage

[latent palm]

Except sniper then yes

[proven steppe]

So what's like the optimal place to plant sentry usually

friend always just say next to the door facing us

[latent palm]

Shot gun sentry is very good at close or right on doors

Be cause of theyre fire rate and stagger due to shooting out pellets

[proven steppe]

I saw like many guide just discount Shotgun and Sniper Variant, and ask to just take Auto or Burst

[latent palm]

Burst is always a good pick cause it deals medium and well reserved fire rate+ ammos

Sniper always have to be very far away

For it to scan for heads

Auto is a no brainer

Shotgun close?

Auto closer

[latent palm]

That is if you dont have boosters

Imagine how much you can do with jjsut 15% cpu speed or

9-15% sentry dmg

[burnt flume]

Auto sentry loses a lot of its use when you get better at the game

[latent palm]

Yea

[burnt flume]

Because having a sentry that staggers enemies just kinda does nothing when you're able to stagger them yourself

Better to take a different sentry to kill shit

[proven steppe]

The CPU Booster for Mute?

[proven steppe]

Im still trying to get better, but learning the game while friends are off are kinda pain

[latent palm]

Ye

[proven steppe]

LFG didn't give me too great experiences last time I tried

but I guess if I want to play it is what it is

[latent palm]

Ye

[mint light]

most people are good. you'll find good folk

[signal plaza]

I'd consider taking it on R2E1 though

just makes it harder for a shitty scan placement to overwhelm you

[wispy bluff]

I'm not sure how, but it feels like the game's running smoother in Win10 than it was on Win7. Probably placebo...

[analog flicker]

[mint light]

Might not be

[past tree]

I'm doin R1D1 with 3 bots rn...

they don't want to step into the scan for the reactor door

it's so fuarking over

[rough robin]

Disable them and re-enable them

We're so back

[past tree]

what

how

wait

[jovial idol]

im new to the game could someone shoow me the ropes?

[rough robin]

ESC, change players + bots to disabled

And then back

[rose nova]

hello, u can play the tutorial, TRAINING, and then u can jump to the LFG channels to find groups

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[rose nova]

just some advice!
start on rundown 1 since its the simplest one, ask to not be carried and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel

[jovial idol]

ok thank you will do

[past tree]

just took 5 hours to to R1D1 with 3 bots :D

[wispy bluff]

Yeah, that's what happens when you bot it up.

Except for me it was R4... C2 PE?...

[past tree]

nah i took a few breaks inbetween and was in vc with the boys talkin bout shit

I had to run through all the side areas for supplies though

¯_(ツ)_/¯

could have done it in 2 I guess, room clearing is much slower with bots

[sharp owl]

discord matchmaking lobby stuff is the most convoluted stuff I have ever seen and I am immediately refunding this
will buy when it has an in-game lobby system

[wraith marsh]

ok

[pine root]

Unfortunate we won’t be seeing you

[past tree]

L bozo

[rough robin]

Just get some friends to get it

Ive cyberbullied like 12 people into getting this game

[past tree]

same

im psyopping server after server into submitting to GTFO

[hallow berry]

[analog flicker]

[past tree]

just gave an AI a bio scanner and im in love

fuckers complaining at every turn

[rough robin]

yeah they never shut up but they're REALLY good at it

[mint light]

Holy shit

Ah with bots in that case it won't be up there

[past tree]

bots were fine ngl, until they refused to scan at the door to the reactor atleast

really weird

[mint light]

I mean for worse runs I heard of/witness.

Got R7C1 for 10 hours and R6C1 for 8 hours

[past tree]

were those with players?

[mint light]

but those were full teams

[rough robin]

how is that even possible

[mint light]

Yes that's why, with bots you get a pass

[mint light]

The R6C1 I watched the stream. Yes all

[past tree]

oh no it wasnt just the bots I was taking a break inbetween to watch youtube and eat dinner and shiet

My favorite part bout GTFO is how you can sit back and take a break in a mission

[mint light]

basically redoing the last checkpoint over and over and refusing to reset

[rough robin]

that's so fuckin brutal

[sharp owl]

Since I've gotten used to no cps through ALT rundowns I 'kinda don't like em no more

[sharp siren]

Good

feature dont even work anyways

[sharp owl]

Causes more trouble than it's worth saving time

Tho not really with bots

But you know

[robust gull]

much like you mister germany i saw that sneaky not day 1 alt r5 review

you're not tricking anyone

it needs to be hot out of the oven

smh

[carmine ore]

yeah and get left behind and eaten

[swift wyvern]

I cyber bullied my friends into getting it

And every single one loved it

And then every single one was like "Let's play again!!!!" and then never actually responds to my messages if they want to play 😠

They keep saying dumb shit like "I have a job" or "I'm taking care of my child"

?????

[rose nova]

take care of the sleeper

cmon

[iron girder]

Algum BR pra jogar?

[rose nova]

hay un server en #hc-latin-america

por si te interesa

[iron girder]

Gracias manito!

[rose nova]

mucha suerte carnal

[rough robin]

destroy the child.

[swift wyvern]

Gotta destroy the jobs, too

[mint light]

you have grown to become what you hated: me

[mint light]

It's the reality of twitch pubs

[sharp siren]

Casual Twitch playtroughs is where speedrunners get their strats

Anyone tells you otherwise its lying and trying to hide the truth

[pine root]

We do it is true

We watch scaler play the game and follow the guide to a t

[rough robin]

targeted

[reef siren]

how difficult is it to find players via matchmaking

i managed to find people for r1a1 pretty quickly but r1b1 seems to be empty

[gray pilot]

You’re better off using the discord lfg

[reef siren]

that still seems roughly as effective as plain matchmaking ngl

though at least people would have a specific place to look

[true pilot]

discord lfg is so much more active than ingame MM

[reef siren]

interesting

[robust dawn]

well for me it works a million times better

[reef siren]

in any case, am baby

all ive done is the training and r1a1 one time

[velvet atlas]

now do r2e1

[reef siren]

that would require me to run the rest of r2, no?

[velvet atlas]

yes

the joke is that u will die

for real thou, if you have questions, ask and we shall answer

the discord is far more reliable in terms of matchmaking

[reef siren]

eh maybe ill just come back to it tomorrow its already 2:30 am

[velvet atlas]

cheers

[sharp owl]

ist true i hate you with every cell of my existence

[random plinth]

hey did anyone come across infinite wave in R4B1 and R3A3?

[burnt flume]

infinite waves in what way? struggling with reactor?

[wispy bluff]

Specifics please?

[austere vault]

Is anything else being added to GTFO , just wondering

[wispy bluff]

Alt R6.
R8.
The only gun still unreleased back is Scattergun (super shotgun).

Everythjng else will be a surprise.

[little ridge]

And with R5C2 PE I've finally finished R5

Thanks for reading my blog

[left kelp]

👉 👈😳

[wispy bluff]

I gotta get in that R5 grind as well...

[little ridge]

Not gonna lie I'm not willing to touch another R5 map aside from R5A2 ever again

[wispy bluff]

That doesn't sound assuring. But yes, so far experience had been... Eegh.

B3 is next on my list. How much is it gonna suck?

[little ridge]

Now the only thing I hope is that they fix the stuttering mess that was R6DX

[wispy bluff]

Can I bot it up?

[little ridge]

I'm pretty sure people botted most of it?

[wispy bluff]

Good strong people

[little ridge]

I only botted C2 Main and A1 Extreme

done the rest with people

[wispy bluff]

The people who reload cancel their HEL revolvers

[sharp owl]

i believe that you can bot all of r5

only issues would be c2 ovl and last error with tank sleeping n cell

[wispy bluff]

Again: by your standards.

7/10, remember?

[sharp owl]

i suppose i have to lower my expectations 🤔

[wispy bluff]

If it has a reactor - game over.
If it has a boss - game over.
If it has a mildly strong error alarm - game over.

[little ridge]

FTR Artek means (I guess) 1 guy+3 bots

[jade iron]

as horrible as r6dx's performance was, if they left it as is but fixed r6d4 I'd be happy

[sharp owl]

well thats 99% of my playtime

[jade iron]

since the former is a mid at best level, whereas the latter is an amazing level

[little ridge]

I think I've seen endgame compl screens with 1+3 for everything barring R5E1?

[sharp owl]

those 3 arent that bad at all

[wispy bluff]

for you

[little ridge]

Did you do double terminals on C3 with bots?

Ain't that much slower=more enemies?

[sharp owl]

the only boss that is slightly problematic is tank mom n pmom arent hard except pmom taking lotsa ammo if u dont have sniper or hel rifle

[sharp owl]

i was doing it yesterday

[wispy bluff]

I wiped on both A2 surprise and B1 reactor, didn't even bother trying again.

[sharp owl]

then i failed cuz didnt bring more tool

[little ridge]

I see

But yeah I've yet to kill a tank with 3 bots

[sharp owl]

als they spawned south right by the 2nd terminal so hybrids had a field day

all of em south

[little ridge]

One usually gets downed and the others try to res him, getting killed by tank rushing

[sharp owl]

i either let bots die or remove em

[little ridge]

NGL I remove them when they do REALLY dumb shit like rushing out of a room I mined

[sharp owl]

same tho im slightly careful cuz ihad bots get 2 bios and 1 missing sentry cuz fk me

[little ridge]

With R6 releasing I'll have to ask myself again if I may aswell do most of it with bots

[sharp owl]

r6 is lot chill

i say u can do everything with bots cept r6d3pe unless u wanna pull the barracks at least twice

[little ridge]

no I think I'm gonna play with people for D2-3-4-X

[sharp owl]

they are pretty easy minus d3

[little ridge]

I only did D2 Main with bots

because I wanted to see mom route

was fun

[sharp owl]

error route 10x the fun

charger extravaganza

[little ridge]

Yeah it's just that error route is what all pugs defaulted to

All but 1 tbh, but that time I had a blackout

All groups just did error with foam and mines

So I wanted to see for myself what was behind the mom zones

[sharp owl]

lots of sneaking dodging and careful stealth

0/10 experience

[random plinth]

the last wave (4/5 in B1 and 5/6 in A3) didnt stop and kept on spawning even after the reactor stress test was over

[little ridge]

Reactors are set to always spawn a set amount of enemies

Game also has a cap on enemies active

Long story short if you dont kill them fast enough they stack

and spawn asap

[random plinth]

ya it was spawning after the reactor stopped

[sharp owl]

kill enemies asap dont let them stack its not fun

better get 10 secs to rest than to deal with em during the unstuck phase

[past tree]

R1C1 my beloved

[little ridge]

Kill them as soon as you can

For R3A3

[burnt flume]

Of all the things, why hel rifle

Like, burst cannon and shotgun etc etc are better for that iirc

[little ridge]

First room has 2 doors, big one down and a small one on the right, open the small one on the right and defend behind it

[random plinth]

I dont think im able to convey the issue

XD

[little ridge]

(some enemies can spawn stuck but it ain't really common and it's just a couple usually)

that ensures that they get to you kinda fast

and they also funnel on a chokepoint

[little ridge]

You are

I think you're under the impression that "timer over"--->"enemies shouldn't spawn anymore"

[burnt flume]

If you can't progress reactor to the next step, it repeats the wave you're on

[little ridge]

and that's not how it works

[random plinth]

Okay, but they do stop coming in between the password search phases dont they

atleast they were in the previous waves

[little ridge]

Not if you didnt kill all of the ones that are set to spawn for that phase

Which is why people say that holding in some spots fucks the waves up

they spawn 2 rooms away when they can with some more rules added but the point is

if they spawn far away

they take longer time to reach you

which means that you take longer time to kill

which means that they queue

[random plinth]

I think I got how to avoid the problem i was facing, thanks

Just go rambo on them XD

[sharp owl]

i never tried burst cannon for mom, i usually blast em with veruta tho slightly ammo intensive, pmom i meant hel rifle tho it kinda sucks but high dmg vs veruta that took me 8 uses to kill a pmom cuz blind run

[little ridge]

R3A3 last wave also contains a number of giants (I think 6 or whatever)

[sharp owl]

there def were more than 6 can tell you that much

[random plinth]

Yes, it was the smol peeps that kept baggering

[little ridge]

No just resist either where I said or on the catwalks uaglio'

[random plinth]

I will try this thank you

[little ridge]

Some waves on the last codes will come from behind your group anyway

[random plinth]

ya i was doing the catwalk for the first 3 waves

[little ridge]

so for 4-5-6 keep a guy on alert

[little ridge]

You can do catwalk for all waves tbh

Some will still spawn from the room at the left from time to time

[sharp owl]

reactors that dont have a set spawn suck

looking at your r5b1 ovl

[random plinth]

Will give this a try next time im down there

[foggy gulch]

Evening, is there a way to constantly have your weapon at the ready instead of it dropping down?

[robust dawn]

holding right click

[true pilot]

I do not think dropping it down affects anything

[rose nova]

ahh the rest animation?

theres a settin for it

but yeah it doesnt affect anythin really

its just a visual

[true pilot]

you can shoot instantly

[foggy gulch]

I like having the precision rifles thermal scope up for foggy areas

[rose nova]

thats fair
yeah theres an option to disable it, i think its on Gameplay

[true pilot]

then there is a setting

[foggy gulch]

Thank you ^^

[rose nova]

no worries!

[shadow zealot]

ребят, хочу с кем-нить помесить спящих. Я в 22й комнате - ру сегмент, отзовись!

[wispy bluff]

У ру сегмента есть отдельный сервер вроде, поищи в #hc-europe

[supple schooner]

bruh this game is wild

[rose nova]

very cool tho

:]

[wispy bluff]

A little bit

[supple schooner]

oh yeah i meant it in the most endearing of ways

i heard about it a while back but forgot it existed until last friday so me and my friends picked it up

40 minutes of us getting slapped around so far 10/10

[rose nova]

hell yeah like it should b ah ksdmkm
no yeah nice u picked it, and at its lowest too this is the lowest discount its been so even more nice

:D

[supple schooner]

yeah i picked a lot of wishlist games up with this sale, honestly so far it has been worth full price to me

[burnt flume]

it's in settings, something like weapon relax pose

[shy idol]

hello guys

[rose nova]

hiii!

[shy idol]

how are doing

im trying to find a team

to conplete r1b1

[rose nova]

well u can find people in the LFG channels :D thats were lobbies n shared n stuff!

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[rose nova]

just some advice! ask to not be carried and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel

[also im good how bouts u kdmk]

[wispy bluff]

Oh god its the stoat

[true pilot]

"he's insane, he only keeps me around to watch me suffer"

[visual lily]

does anyone have the link to the roadmap

[rose nova]

.t roadmap

[foggy plank]

You can view the roadmap here: https://gtfothegame.com/roadmap

[rose nova]

it is quite ded tho

i think

[visual lily]

thats why i need it

[velvet atlas]

good day

[wispy bluff]

Day

[rose nova]

good

[true pilot]

after

[primal cipher]

hi

[rose nova]

hello !

[latent palm]

Sup

[violet garnet]

Yooo

[rose nova]

hoooi

[signal plaza]

that’s the thumbnail for the scouts mod

or something similar

[latent palm]

It is

[latent palm]

Uhhh dude?

You might wana look out for that byrne guy

[violet garnet]

So all my friends play consoles so does anyone have a free spot for me to play with you?

[rose nova]

u can find n share lobbies in the LFG channels

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[rose nova]

just some advice!
be sure to do the tutorial first [Training], start on rundown 1 since its the simplest one, ask to not be carried and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel

[violet garnet]

Thank you very much💯

[violet garnet]

😭wth

[toxic quail]

alguien que hablo español? o latino

[signal plaza]

eh he was fine

[latent palm]

Yeah on u

[rose nova]

wnos dias

[signal plaza]

lucky me

[toxic quail]

wnas tardesss

[rose nova]

quehapasao

[toxic quail]

soy nuevo y no tengo ni idea de que hacer

ya pase el tutorial

[rose nova]

wno despues del tutorial podei pasar a la primera mision, es recomendable empezar en rundown 1 porque es simplita; podei jugar con bots que son medio utiles, pero si querei un equipo
hay un server en español en #hc-latin-america, y si querei usar este mismo server podei ir a #lfg-latin-america y postear tu lobby ahi, siguiendo las instrucciones de #how-to-matchmake

[toxic quail]

gracias hmno te pasaste

[rose nova]

no es nah, wna suerte en tus partidas

[toxic quail]

agradecido que dios se lo pague

[wild lichen]

yo kayn chi mghribi hna?

[sharp owl]

nn hbb

[wild lichen]

ok hh

[sharp owl]

cv wola

[wild lichen]

hmd u up t9sr?

[sharp owl]

rani lahi m3a chibani

[wild lichen]

kfch?

[sly oriole]

is this game fun

[rose nova]

id say yes very funs as long as u dont have a problem with the difficulty

and r willin to learn it

[sly oriole]

what you do

[nova jay]

first time clearing an E level with my friends for 3 darn hours

it was so exhausting lol

[rose nova]

pains ksdmkm qwq
but u got it NICEEEE

[rose nova]

im sorry, i didnt quite got that, whatcha mean?

[sly oriole]

whats the objective

[left kelp]

Depends on the level

[rose nova]

ah, well usually the game its about yeah goin into a level, doin somethin, and then goin out

it can vary, can be findin certain items, interactin with somethin, carryin an item to a specific zone

or even just survivin a certain amount of time

[mint light]

R2E1?

[nova jay]

R5E1

[mint light]

👍

[rose nova]

dammnnn

[nova jay]

it's really fun having to have every single enemy that the game has to offer except queen birther, flyers and snatchers

[mint light]

R5E1 is a good one

[nova jay]

and the frustration of having to deal with multiple error alarms

[mint light]

R7E1 is a big meh

R4E1 is good, R2E1 is good as well

[rose nova]

r8e1 is- ah :3

[nova jay]

we're looking forward to finishing R4E1, R2E1 and R7E1 on another day, wish us luck!

[mint light]

IF there is one

[sharp siren]

you should probably go trough the game in order

[mint light]

gl m8

[sharp siren]

instead of trying to tackle one of the hardest E's out ther

[mint light]

bit too late for that now innit?

[sharp siren]

eh not really

[mint light]

as they finished it

[sharp siren]

just common sense

[mint light]

yeah but they done it. like we not gon take away their clear right ?

right ?

[sharp siren]

im going to hack into 10cc server and remove the clear

menace

[rose nova]

really

[rose nova]

much good luck to ur runs >:3 u got this!

[main estuary]

i really dont understand how more than half of the users that jump into a vc dont speak a fucking word then just dips just go play with the bits then dawg

[mystic moss]

voice comms are overrated, just use telepathy

better yet, just put "mic users only" in your lfg posts
super effective

[keen monolith]

Anybody doing R1B2 act 1 am matchmaking if anybody wants to do that run

[rose nova]

hii, u can find n share lobbies in the LFG channels!

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[rose nova]

just some advice!
ask to not be carried and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel

[keen monolith]

I don’t need a carry like just somebody to run with

[rose nova]

nono, i just say it cause some people carry w/o u askin em to, so its always better to just specify 'hey im not tryin to get carried pls' and let the other person know

[keen monolith]

Who was the 3 American guys just left my lobby gg guys haha

Somebody join R1B2 am matchmaking a team joined but left so backed out to start again

[rose nova]

u can let a bot join ur run

they pretty serviceable

[keen monolith]

Ano ano just solo gets boring man

[mint light]

You in lfg channels or ingame MM?

cause ingame MM you gon spend the rest of your life searching

[keen monolith]

In game MM ano it’s dead I type in chat for people to join then start matchmaking

[mint light]

Yeah that won't work 😅 gl on your endeavours

[keen monolith]

Haha bro it literally worked then but guys where American and am eu so they left maybe high ping or something or maybe coz they where all 20hp 30seconds in haha

But yea I know I don’t normally work

[mint light]

it's aight. we'll see you back here eventually

[keen monolith]

Am already here

[mint light]

you know what I mean

[keen monolith]

Haha

[elfin grove]

whats the difference between orange and grey boxes on the map?

[rose nova]

orange boxes has somethin in them, either by bein opened or close, grey boxes have nothin

[burnt flume]

orange boxes should have stuff in them
grey boxes should have nothing in them

but sometimes it doesn't work

[elfin grove]

okay yeah this has been my experience

[hollow jungle]

how do i find ppl

just got the game

[burnt flume]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[burnt flume]

you can get access to all channels from the Channels & Roles section at the top of the server

[rose nova]

just some advice!
be sure to do the tutorial first [Training], start on rundown 1 since its the simplest one, ask to not be carried and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur voice channel

[zealous portal]

this game is so hard xd

[mint light]

depends

You playing alone? then yes you will never finish the game.

You learning from your mistakes with your team? you'll do fine.

[tawdry skiff]

hello , a french player for level R1B1 ?

[mint light]

Essaye le discord français. meme si a cette heure ......

[tawdry skiff]

A yen a un?

[mint light]

2 meme, mais l'autre est mort de mort

[tawdry skiff]

envoi mp stp poto

[mint light]

👍

[silent hinge]

I dont see in the main menu where you can paste the link to join a host. Do you have to complete a round of the game first before multiplayer? I did training

[rose nova]

u dont need to paste it!
when u copy the code, a button under the TRAINING will appear after a couple seconds

thats where u can click it and u will join the lobby directly

[livid gulch]

also no requirement to unlock MP

[silent hinge]

I see matchmake right under training, I dont see the button your refering. I havent even completed the first level, let me do that and see if it lets me matchmake then lol

oh?

[livid gulch]

jump into any lobby you want

[silent hinge]

Thanks for the help

[rose nova]

um ingame mm is just kinda unuseful, it really doesnt do a whole lot its very slow n stuff

so ifur gonna join levels or share lobbies, its better through the LFG channels

[silent hinge]

found alobby at least, thanks 🙂

[rose nova]

good luck !

[median granite]

@green blade ya can join on my link in #lfg-beginners , im still kinda new myself but understand alotta the basic mechanics

cant say it there due to the slowmode

[heavy salmon]

in R5B1, can you do secondary before overload?

[velvet atlas]

greetings

[rose nova]

if i'm not wrong, ||the bulkhead key is behind a door that finishes with main, then u grab the key and can insert it either into overload or go back to secondary, but in order to get the three, u need to do overload first||

pls send shit

[frigid nova]

🙂

[rose nova]

helloo

[deep otter]

anyone know if the pumpaction shotgun has a niche or something, looking at the stats and comparing it to the other shotguns and it just looks so pathetic in comparison

[rose nova]

it has a lot of dmg in very little time

but it sacrifices the range for the big mag size and fire rate

compared to choke mod is better for close quarter levels cause it can down enemies veey fast along with spoiler enemies

hel rifle is better with spoiler black enemies and long corridors where u can like enemies up

chokemod is better for range and tight spread, it's a bit more flexible but it does have a low mag size

[deep otter]

yeah im just wondering since like in terms of ammo and everything chokemod is better

which would make me think it isnt

alternate world where it has significant slower reload time with more ammo

[rose nova]

chokemod it's very good, but if ur not used to reloading so much or the crazy fire rate, the normal shottie is more friendly, and again it's a lot of dmg across its entire mag size, i mean it is double the chokemod

if i remember correctly

think it was 8 shots and 4 oh chokemod

[visual jungle]

r7c3 sucks

[rose nova]

nah it's cool as hell

hard as hell

but cool as hell

but hard

but cool

[visual jungle]

have u done it with bots?

bc its very unfun trying to get them to throw cfoam correctly

[rose nova]

whatcha doin doin that
i've tried it

but even i the bot player know it's probs not possible

[sharp owl]

After you do hsu scan zone 99 will be unlocked After thé cluster alarm you will find thé bulk Key and thé dc there so do ovl first then secondary

[visual jungle]

also i can never find an explosive trip mine before the 1st blood door

[rose nova]

it's rng, depends if it spawns or not i think

but also with bots even havin the mine is honker to do the door

[sharp owl]

Most of thé Time it doesnt Spawn so you will have to go back to lobby and drop again
R7c3 will be a nightmare with bots unless you are experienced

[visual jungle]

yes it is

im starting to think its better to sneak past a lot of obstacles instead of clearing the whole room

[sharp owl]

Well you have to clear the main zone for sure

[rose nova]

i mean i wouldnt even try it, not spoils idk how far u have gotten but even if u go past that, the thing that starts it all it's gonna b brutal

and u can't probs do sectors at all

specially not overload

[jade iron]

pump shotgun has a very good reload cancel, its practical reload time is like a bit over a second

whereas choke has nearly no cancel, basically only worth doing if you're swapping to main

[sharp owl]

Ovl IS easy just need enough ammo during and inbetween uplinks

[rose nova]

nah it is pretty worth it's a good weapon

[rose nova]

with bots?

[jade iron]

between the practically fast reload and the 8 round mag, pump shotgun has a ton of uptime

[sharp owl]

Yes

[rose nova]

my skill issue

probs then

i'm sorry

[deep otter]

just kinda takes me out of the game.. like u load 1 shell and the whole tubes filled

[visual jungle]

i think ill wait for some players to host it instead bots work but they have their limits

[heavy salmon]

ty

[rose nova]

imagine it's like half life alyx where u reload like 2 bullets at a time

that but 7

:3

[sharp owl]

Tbf you need to bé better than your average Joe to do it

[jade iron]

that combination of uptime and damage, and in particular the high precision multiplier which gives it good boss damage, makes pump shotgun a unique special

[heavy salmon]

for overload?

[sharp owl]

Anytime

[jade iron]

with range being the main tradeoff

[deep otter]

ive never played half life alyx i dont have money

gtfo vr?

[rose nova]

well, u reload 2 shotguns shells at a time

also it is a mod

idk how updated it is tho

[sharp owl]

No sry. Was talking to slendi

[rose nova]

been a very long while

since i heard of it

[deep otter]

thats fair, just wish it had more ammo, missing shots or missing the whole shell hurts me

[jade iron]

it's nearly the same amount of ammo as choke

[rose nova]

yeah but it does have more spread

and less range

[deep otter]

yeah but choke gets 1 more shell + its choke

[rose nova]

so it's fair

i mean 1 bullet probs it's not a lot but

it does feel a when u miss an enemy

[deep otter]

a lot for high damage low ammo gun

[rose nova]

if u want a more smol directed gun there's also combat

[jade iron]

I think you might not be appreciating what a bottleneck a mag size of 4 + a poor reload really is for choke

[rose nova]

it's a bit more flexible, or well not really

[deep otter]

i thought about it but hel shotgun is so much better

[rose nova]

that's fair

[deep otter]

does what combat does but is a main + penetration + more ammo

[jade iron]

like, missing a round with choke means that you've wasted a quarter of your firepower, until you can find a window of downtime to reload

[velvet atlas]

hel shotgun - piercing low dmg, but lots of ammo and godod for crowd control

[jade iron]

choke is incredibly needy uptime-wise

[rose nova]

combat just really there for the dmg, not really the stagger like hel shottie

the one shots r wonderful

and i think the reload is shorter but tbh i don't remember

[wraith marsh]

hel shotty has less ammo and cant one shot to head on strikers

[rose nova]

maybe is not

it doesn't have less ammo

[wraith marsh]

it gets a lot less per refill

[rose nova]

it's 100 against like 60 isn't it

[wraith marsh]

max ammo is a joke

[rose nova]

ah

well it is a main

[wraith marsh]

kinda

(lol)

[rose nova]

equis de

[jade iron]

combat shotgun is definitely a great stagger/crowd control weapon

[sharp owl]

Hel shotty rocks

[jade iron]

it just also has good breakpoints for 1tapping smalls

[rose nova]

i mean not stagger only it had nice dmg

yeah that

[jade iron]

as someone who plays mostly duos where you're coming into the level with multiple ammo uses fewer in starting ammo than a 4man, imo pump's ammo issues are overstated

typically there's enough ammo, especially if you're hitting a mix of bigs and smalls

but having that mix of monster waveclear and big damage into giants and bosses is a big deal, basically no other special has that

the main tradeoff is range

[deep otter]

yeah but dont you feel empty when you get a refill on ammo and it only fills 1 magazine

[jade iron]

which of course is a big deal, but no special can have everything

[vestal crystal]

shhhhh let people complain that combat shotgun sucks, then it will get buffed for alt r6

[mystic moss]

he said the d-word again

[deep otter]

world where it has slower reload with more max ammo still waiting on it

[mystic moss]

combat shotty power creep pls

[rose nova]

nah

[sharp owl]

Thats guaranteed 8 dead smalls dunno how it feels bad

[rose nova]

the reload already hurts don't make it a bullpup

[rose nova]

that's... 2 bigs dead from the front i think, bodyshots

[jade iron]

it's a big magazine, friend

[sharp owl]

Or 3-4 from thé back

[deep otter]

yeah but big magazine is kinda for show to me, like sure the magazine is big but you dont actually have more ammo

[jade iron]

we're talking about one shell v choke shotty

[rose nova]

nah it's way more bullets to shoot, even with chokemod crazy fire rate u need to aim each time

pumps shottie just kinda shoots very fast reloads super fast and

it kills a lot

[sharp owl]

Just use it

[rose nova]

again, for a certain spoilers enemy

well a type of spoiler enemy

it fuckin shines

a LOT

[jade iron]

also big magazines are never for show in this game, mag size is a huge deal in terms of throughput

[sharp owl]

Pump does well vs all enemies except kraken

[knotty wren]

pump shotty is a weapon that's in the rare spot of being comfortable to use against every enemy

[rose nova]

idk abot a certain other spoiler enemy

silmilar to it

no spoils

[deep otter]

realistically when r u gonna need less choke, like will u really be waiting to hit the perfect 3 man shot on the pump

[jade iron]

perfect what now?

[sharp owl]

Rarely see that one

[deep otter]

like how many sleepers do u shoot with 1 shell usually

[jade iron]

I'm not trying to two- or three-for-one trickshot with shotguns, if that's what you mean

1 shell 1 small typically

[rose nova]

unless its sawed off

or scatter

[jade iron]

but if I think I'm only hitting smalls then I'm probably just going to bring a machinegun

[deep otter]

yeah so why not go for choke which usually has tighter spread and 1 extra ammo

[jade iron]

I bring a shotgun (pump or choke) if I have significant bigs/bosses to fight as well as smalls

[rose nova]

cause it has 4 shells in mag

and in corner levels

the range does nothin to me

[jade iron]

yeah again mag size is a huge deal

[knotty wren]

shotgun's higher mag size and more comfy reload makes it really good for just "get the fuck off me" firing during dicey alarms

[deep otter]

i guess it'd mean more if i was playing more duos like you i guess

[knotty wren]

choke mod isn't really equipped to handle that sort of situation

[sharp owl]

Range and less ammo ready to Pepper sum enemies

[rose nova]

i dont play duos i play bots or 4 people

[deep otter]

but you've got 3 other guys to help with the 4 shots

oh i thought you said you played more duos

[jade iron]

being able to hit a big, 3 smalls, and stagger another big, then reload cancel and finish the other big, is very powerful

[rose nova]

that was them up here