gtfo-chat

[valid marten]

Don't think there's fog in the alt turbine zone, I think no spitters as well

Some chargers and BBC and a scout I believe

A bit of supplies

[wispy bluff]

What's wrong with turbine room?

I've been there like 2-3 times and don't see a problem.

Probably forgot...

Shadows?

Maybe?

[elfin osprey]

i find that room annoying

[wispy bluff]

My squads just do 2 alarms in a row and call it a day.

And it's not even black bois

[valid marten]

Nothing wrong with it, just depends on whether you wanna play fast or slow

[wispy bluff]

Lsow. Always slow.

Allergic to sprinting, stab stab.

I guess you could just fuckin GO but I don't know.

Overload at 99% infection doesn't sound great.

And no, I'm not doing it "properly", fuck off.

These people can't even get main done.

[valid marten]

If the whole team go fast enough you can avoid the infection mostly, but it's a collective effort not just one guy carrying the team

[valid marten]

I'm not too sure what that means

[wispy bluff]

Picking up cargo immediately and beating main with error on your tail.

I'm mortified to even imagine what that looks like.

On another hand... Shadows will steal spawn points from charger waves. Hm.

[valid marten]

I never did it this way but I suppose it's gonna be relying on heavy cfoam usage to keep the enemies behind while doing alarms

[wispy bluff]

Which is how you do that level anyway, so what's the difference?...

Well... Twice the Cfoam usage, probably.

[valid marten]

Doing it fast requires better team coordination so it can be tricky with a pug group

[wispy bluff]

Yeah, exactly.

God, last squad almost had it... We were doing so well.

The fucking door hitbox

That was super cringe on the game's part

[valid marten]

I never tested it but I suppose the vertical ladder after the class 7 can collision block the enemies for very long if you put enough cfoam

[valid marten]

If it's the class 6/7 alarm you can still salvage it but people just have to shoot well

[wispy bluff]

The little room with 2 doors. I think it's pre-last one.

[valid marten]

That's the class 7

[mint light]

you skip the turbine cause you wanna go fast.

[wispy bluff]

We didn't salvage it. Got overrun in 20 seconds. I went for the scan and got caught reloading my HEL shotgun, so got pummeled real bad.

Probably some friendly fire going on too.

[valid marten]

Assuming your team had cofam and mine, there's 2 doors each side before charges get to see you which is half the alarm done if not more?

[wispy bluff]

I think we were on round 2 or 3 when they broke the long door.

[valid marten]

My guess that your team didn't mine and foam the door in the next area

[wispy bluff]

I tried foaming the ground but chargers don't give a damn, the next wave just rushed in and flooded the room.

[wispy bluff]

Of course not, it's all about perma foaming one door.

And the piece of shit bugged out on us.

[mint light]

There ya go. that's why you ded

[valid marten]

It's the same idea except you maybe spend 2 more mines

[elfin osprey]

Uhmm

[valid marten]

Based

[elfin osprey]

That class 6 7 isnt that bad

[wispy bluff]

Agree to disagree

[elfin osprey]

The worst thing is that a full wave of charger behind u while ur carrying cargo to extraction

[mint light]

don't even see the enemies

[elfin osprey]

While being at 1 hp

[elfin osprey]

I still shoot, but like its not that bad

[mint light]

Bruh there ain't chargers on your ass when you grab cargo

only shadows and they should be FAR behind at that point

[elfin osprey]

There is a alarm thing when u pick up the cargo

What is that?

[mint light]

yeah shadows

[elfin osprey]

Hmm

I though it was charger

Guess i was too scared to remember

[mint light]

no

[valid marten]

And before you get destroyed by the cfoam bug again allow me to give you one more piece of information, don't just rely on one door for PE extraction coz you bet that shit will bug out

[elfin osprey]

I cfoam, but dont rely on cfoam perma door

[tidal jay]

R5 when

[mint light]

2025

[elfin osprey]

Why

[tidal jay]

Sexy

[elfin osprey]

Now you make it release onb2025

Great

[tidal jay]

Warramiss

[elfin osprey]

Now i have to spent 2 years waiting

[tidal jay]

🧐

Some cryptic shit going on

[valid marten]

Nice 2 more years to grind R4

[tidal jay]

If someone asked when R5 was did it get delayed to 2025 or what's the joke

Am I too not awake to understand

[elfin osprey]

When someone ask when alt r5 release, they will move back the release date

[tidal jay]

Tf lmfao

[elfin osprey]

(its a meme we do, but techniclly its how human work)

[tidal jay]

Murphy's

Anything that can go wrong will go wrong

[elfin osprey]

Time tend to flow slower if u expect something to happen

[elfin osprey]

Not that law

[tidal jay]

ª

[tidal jay]

Isn't this time dilatatation

[elfin osprey]

I think so

I dont study about how human mind work

[boreal steppe]

achievements when

[wispy bluff]

Not soon

[boreal steppe]

is there a reason or are they just not bothered?

[wispy bluff]

Not bothered at the time.

[last parrot]

definitely not during alt release

[wispy bluff]

At best well get them once the "full game" is released, as to avoid any unexpected technical issues and code spaghetti magic.

[winged narwhal]

the game already had its "full" release though, with R6

[junior latch]

achievements in the rundown phase wouldnt rly make sense though

unless we wanted very … rough ones like „do a d tier“

now you can have a bit more funky stuff next to completionist things

like speedrun achievements :^ ) or collectors achievements (get all artifacts in all levels )

[winged narwhal]

there's also questions about how they'd be executed - i remember a previous discussion about potential achievements where someone said that killing certain foes, such as tanks, could give achievements

but then would it give to the person landing the killing blow, or to the team?

as much as i like pointless achievements to make me feel better about doing nothing i don't think they fit here

[valid marten]

A "prisoner inefficiency" achievement for >3 hours runs

[wispy bluff]

The biggest question is: backwards compatibility.

Imagine having everything cleared and the "Beat Rundown X" achievement starts at 0/10.

And the worst part? I'll fucking do it all again.

[junior latch]

artek when they actually gotta go back to r2e1

but the achievement is to do it duo

[wispy bluff]

🫀

[mint light]

now I hope they add achievements after you completed R5

[wispy bluff]

⚰️

[weak shore]

why hasn’t a GTFO live action movie been announced… would that be cool or what

[wispy bluff]

With modern day quality of movies... Eh.

Could work, but can easily go bad as well.

[weak shore]

GTFO movie but done perfectly and good

[wispy bluff]

What even the story would be? Same as the game - none? Just being kept in the dark and following orders?

[weak shore]

That would be interesting to figure out maybe a mix of the gameplay and the lore diving we do outside of it…

[wispy bluff]

I guess we could make it a prequel.

Last days of facility before being overrun.

And the final teaser is our boys being awakened.

[weak shore]

Oooh YEAH,

that’s super cool… prequel / backstory stuff for our main guys in movie form would make an interesting time

[mint light]

seeing adaptations of late. pls no. they'll shit all over it

[wispy bluff]

Make it anime

"I really want to stay in your house" 🎶

[tidal jay]

Gtfo achievements just sound like a bad idea

I feel like most would be

Well

Completion

[wispy bluff]

Kill 500 enemies, beat 20 levels...

[tidal jay]

And yes, the game is quite hard

[wispy bluff]

The basic stuff.

[tidal jay]

Maybe that's a better route

I was thinking "Finish R4C3 PE"

[wispy bluff]

Try every gun, get a triple kill with HEL rifle.

You know, the basic shit. That always works.

[tidal jay]

Yeah fair

Getting 100% on a game like GTFO would be pretty accomplishing

[wispy bluff]

Iron Lung: Complete an expedition with 85% infection

[tidal jay]

Trophy hunting GTFO would be either quite fun or fucking hellish depending on how the devs feel

Imagine fucking

"Beat R7E1 solo"

[wet mica]

No truet. Dropping the cargo and picking it up again changes the waves from spooks to chargers.

[wispy bluff]

I don't think that's happening.

[wispy bluff]

What the fuck

[wet mica]

Chargers also spawn during extraction. You basically want someone huggign the cargo all the way to extraction

never dropping it

[wispy bluff]

Do you think its a bug or

[wet mica]

shrugs

Bug or intentional, don't drop it either way, only drop it once its in extraction

[mint light]

don't drop it then

[wispy bluff]

Hey @hollow quarry, can you comment on that?

[unreal crystal]

i remember someone saying this isnt a thing in alt?

in the og i remember it happening tho

[wispy bluff]

Ask @elfin osprey apparently he experienced it first hand

Oh shit wrong ping

[tidal jay]

You still got time to ghost ping

[wispy bluff]

Why are there so many goddamn potatos, I swear

[wet mica]

r00d

[tidal jay]

World's pretty big mate

And potatoes are quite tasty

[wispy bluff]

At least I didn't everyone'd

[fierce viper]

I love it when I'm sitting here for like an hour for someone to join the vc/lobby, someone finally does, says nothing for not even a minute and leaves

[wispy bluff]

Oh, it's the best.

[tidal jay]

Mate tell you what

[fierce viper]

what

[tidal jay]

It's better than queueing up for a Prisioner Efficiency level and a new player joins because they saw a vacant spot in VC number 104

It's waaaay too common

[fierce viper]

what even is PE anyway I haven't looked that up, I know secondary and overload are extra even hard like sub levels but is PE also a sub level or like no refills or smth?

[wet mica]

PE is do all objectives in one go

[fierce viper]

I see

[wet mica]

Only on levels that have all Overload and Secondary

[fierce viper]

wait dont you have to select one over the other for secondary and overlaods?

[wet mica]

Nah

Tho some require to pick a Secondary/Overload first

How the bulkhead keys are spread out

*depends on

[serene berry]

nah, not usually. one or the other will give you a 'refund' bulkhead_key

[fierce viper]

aaaaa

[serene berry]

to open up the next objective. but main sectors usually don't so you have to commit to secondary and/or overload first

R4A2 for example

1. main give you one to access the optionals at all,
2. then you get one more to open either secondary or overload
3. overload has a refund key, but secondary doesn't. so its there you commit to doing overload first, or not at all.

[fierce viper]

oh cool

[serene berry]

going blind into a level, i highly recommend finding your first terminal
"list key"
and then query each key

[fierce viper]

I basically just had this happen but it was 2 separate people who wanted to R1 missions when my post was R2D1

[wispy bluff]

i started splitting R and D in my posts with a -.
Something like R4-D1 or whatever. Makesit slightly easier for people to read / understand, otherwise they just keep reading wrong

[fierce viper]

seems like these two just didn't even see my post and just joined a random vc

pain

[serene berry]

oh, rule 7 breakers, ya, it naturally sorts all the rude people really quickly

[mint light]

I hate those

[normal lake]

more and more i see you all chat about problems with the current system the more and more glad i have a team of players outside the server who i play with, dont get to play much but atleast its not a pain in the ass

[mint light]

its just rule 7 breakers/mutes/cheaters/modders

not that bad

🥹

[normal lake]

dont forget how long it can take to even get a lobby goin

so many problems i aint gotta deal with

[mint light]

nah honestly thats very very fast

[normal lake]

maybe with right levels

all i gotta do is ping some guys and say "you all down for gtfo" give it 5 minutes and if we playing we bouta start

[mint light]

dunno my lobbies mostly fill up immediatly

BUT

I play mostly outside of the official discord nowadays

[normal lake]

i got that one friend who is like me, always down to game so long as he aint asleep or at work

and then got 3-4 other buddies who are less reliable

[serene berry]

thats a solid count!

[normal lake]

occassionally causes this situation where we have 5 people wantin to play which is no bueno

[serene berry]

honestly the trick is using lfg until you find people you like lol

[mint light]

pretty much

altho liking is a strong word

they fill slots

[normal lake]

well i had a friend who invited a bunch of people to my server to play the game, than he quit the game a few days later, after a few weeks only one of em was still in the server and we still play with him regularly

[mint light]

see? One invite was enough

[normal lake]

honestly a 4th player or a bot with biotracker it dont really make a difference they are about the same quality

[serene berry]

yee

[normal lake]

very rarely does a 4th player actually matter much

[serene berry]

ya, only a couple levels

[normal lake]

we still only had 2 active players till my one friend got a major pc upgrade mid 2022 and god damn now that we got 3 active members throwing together a 3 man is so easy

[mint light]

We have one on DDR3 still 😦

[normal lake]

lmfao i get that life

up until mid 2022 i was running on a old dell pc with a mid tier quadro gpu thrown in it

[mint light]

anyways always found folks to do all content. on other servers or here. so it really ain't that bad

and now its the wait for R5 .....

and after a couple days the wait for R6

etc etc etc

[normal lake]

i heard from a few players that finding a group for earlier rundowns like 1 and 2 is rough

[mint light]

meaby now. cause most are still on R4 grind

[normal lake]

i imagine rundown 3 and 4 are still not to bad

[mint light]

I guess

[normal lake]

also on the topic of r3 was it just me or was c1 in r3 the hardest level by a fucking long shot

after replaying the level with another friend i realized how fucking bizarre it is that i beat that level first try as a duo

[mint light]

I would say D1 is harder cause it offers more challenges. while C1 only has ... the end

[normal lake]

the end of c1 was something man

[mint light]

not very much imo

[normal lake]

d1 overall is harder but the ending of c1 is so much harder than anything else in the rundown

and its the end of a map

[mint light]

I think R4C3PE, R4D2PE did it better

[mint light]

hmmm yeah that i would probably agree

[normal lake]

i wouldnt know because i aint got that far in r4

i probably have a total of 3 hours in r4

[mint light]

oh well. unsee my comment then

[normal lake]

im not worried about spoilers personally

[mint light]

in that case, feel free to Re -see my comment

[normal lake]

r4 dropped right before finals for college so needless to say me and a lot of my friends have been busy

gonna be fun tho i can tell, based on what ive seen people talking about c3 worries me kek

[mint light]

the freedom of taking paid days off when I want

[normal lake]

had to study so i didnt end up with a D in my english class

so fuckin glad i dont have to take another english class again

[wispy bluff]

Reminds me of how i barely passed mine

Did nothing for 4 years, the teacher barely knew i existed.

Then i showed up for the punishment exam and just... Did the english thing.

[normal lake]

take all the class averages and i have a low grade in classes with the highest average and a high grade in classes with a low average

[mint light]

smart cause it could make the difference between comfortable life and modern slavery

[normal lake]

i cant believe my computing class average was a fucking 66%

i had a 88

english average was a 91 and i have a 71

barely fuckin pulled through

[mint light]

I don't know what are the minimum scores to get in the states

[normal lake]

in the us the minimum is a 60

otherwise i would have failed my federal american history class

i am gonna lose 2k on scholarships because poor grades which is sad but i just fuckin cant with this rhetorical bullshit

[green rivet]

@mystic moss

[mint light]

2k as in money?

2k is the fee for all courses, the whole year here

[wispy bluff]

Welcome to american education

[normal lake]

2k total in scholarships

as far as im aware i still wont owe anything tho

[mint light]

it is what it is

[wispy bluff]

That's good. Americans keep talking about college loans, but i have no idea how they work. All i know is that you better not have them.

[normal lake]

yea there is a reason a lot of people dont do college in the states but its not really necessary

there are plenty of other alternatives to education that are dirt cheap and almost as effective

i took the college route because i literally pay nothing

[normal lake]

college loans are a fucking scam, one thing i dislike about the united states is how quickly people here default to going into debt

[wispy bluff]

The idea of quick money is very alluring. Hell, every time i wonder about how to upgrade my PC (GPU or otherwise) - the first thing i think of is taking loans because there's no fucking way otherwise.

[normal lake]

avoiding debt in the us is so damn difficult because our whole culture revolves around it

[mint light]

saving 👀

[normal lake]

impossible surely

[mint light]

I guess it could be impossible for some

[normal lake]

im 19 years old and people are amazed when i tell them ive never had a credit card or taken out a loan

[fierce viper]

I'm so jealous

[normal lake]

my parents on the other hand, they make damn good money but live paycheck to paycheck

[normal lake]

if someone as unlikable as me can make friends surely you can to

[mint light]

A credit card is not a bad thing when used wisely. And sadly in some cases even necessary

[fierce viper]

how I made my main destiny 2 friend group was just getting invited to said group on a raid so we could VC, I'm not the friend making type

[normal lake]

i got a few seperate savings accounts for bad times

[mint light]

I mean necessary as in it is the only payment method

[normal lake]

rn im tryna save up 3-4k in its own savings fund for when my car has a problem to expensive to repair

saving money is brutal on such low wages tho

[mint light]

Well finish you school and your wages will be better

[normal lake]

yeah ofc

still debating if i wanna go for a 4 year degree or a 2 year

[mint light]

Also secondary work conditions will improve drastically

probably

[normal lake]

if your tolerance to assholes is fine you could always join our group but my group of friends to most people are completely intolerable

[normal lake]

ive worked office job before and man its much nicer than a manual labor job

altho white collar work has its downsides thats for sure

[mint light]

depends where and what

there are a lot of factors

[normal lake]

im someone who already sits around a lot at home, so id need to exercise more to do white collar work

[fierce viper]

I mean the destiny discord I'm in right now is basically nothing but shitposts of the week
of which this week are "glaggles"?
I'd probably be fine

[normal lake]

not looking to be 40 years old with serious health problems

[wicked solstice]

me who is 20 y/o with type 1 diabetes

[normal lake]

last guy we invited was polish and he lasted 2 weeks before being bullied off the server for being "cringe"

regardless if you wanna hmu in dms

always nice to have extra players for gtfo

[pine root]

100% gaming is a pretty good hobby all things considered for minimum spending

[normal lake]

absolutely

i mean with 1k hours in terraria thats 100 hours for 1$

fuuck

gl getting that value on anything else

[visual lily]

I got 50 million power in rise of kingdoms

[lilac lake]

Hi all :)

[hollow quarry]

Never heard about it before (if we are talking about waves changing if you drop something)

[wispy bluff]

Yes, that was my concern

[pine root]

There is a funny bug with the rng protection system in the game. As rayalot say heat bug

But it isn’t because of drops it is because of the wave heat not resetting to baseline then miniboss and special being unbelievable unlikely to spawn until 300 normal sleepers have

[lapis tree]

can i get a RIP in chat, we were about to finish r4c2 and then all but one of us randomly got kicked (including me, the host) and couldn't rejoin

[rose nova]

D:
RIP

[fierce viper]

[serene berry]

[flat perch]

@lilac lake dem pics are very nice 🙂

[lilac lake]

Thx

[orchid oyster]

hey we're starting R1 and need 2 more players, English please!

109775243482799880

[rose nova]

heyy u can find players in the LFG channels :3

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[rose nova]

just some advice!
ask to not be carried, be sure to do the tutorial first [Training], start on rundown 1 and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur vc

[pine root]

Do you have it on a google doc, a hot key, how do you copy paste it so fast

[rose nova]

a notepad

[pine root]

Why don’t you make it your discord bio

Then you have it faster

[unkempt glen]

I am a 45 yo father, probably one of the oldest people playing this game. I am a single farther to my Son, who is 14 now. My son got this game for Christmas in 2021 from his uncle, so we installed it on his computer and he started playing. By the end of the week he had 24 hours on this game. This was horrible for me, as it was already hard for me to find ways to spend time with my son, as he is always out with his friends or just watching YouTube. So I decided to make a Steam account and get this game to see if I could maybe play alongside him. I loaded into the game, picked my character and started playing but I was stuck on what you where supposed to do. I asked my Son for help and he hosted a game for me to join. I loved it as it was the best time I had spent with my Son since my wife had died. This game has ever since brought me and my son closer again and now we actually spend time together outside the house together as well. This game reminded me that there's fun to be had in everything, and it has brought both me and my Son many happy memories.

[pine root]

Thank you goat. Gtfo is beautiful

[burnt flume]

Very wholesome and sweet, go get 'em dad

[glossy galleon]

🙏

https://tenor.com/view/muslim-islam-quran-surah-kalma-gif-13730302

🙏 embed failure, but all is calm, all is well 🙏 it is a sign that mccad has truly gained peace

[pine root]

Lockout 3 is coming not cope

[unkempt glen]

😇 🙏 🥹

[pine root]

R8 title??? Lockout 3

Dev

m10cchad

[merry crypt]

also if your son or yourself needs any help with the game dont be shy to ask for help, the game is pretty hard but with the right people it can be really fun

[wicked solstice]

Dude

This is McCad

he knows what he’s doing

[merry crypt]

yea but like i wanna make sure because it just cool to see it qwq

[thick temple]

also it's a copypasta

[unkempt glen]

This is extremely disrespectful, i'll be contacting my 14 year old son about this immediately

[merry crypt]

:(

[glossy galleon]

im basically mccad im in the lockout credits

🤓

[unkempt glen]

After careful consideration and extreme bullying and harrassment by this community i am going to leave this server. Goodbye.

[glossy galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/mad-gif-24958452

[rose nova]

glad i didnt said anythin

anyways

machinepistol god

[analog flicker]

If discord is correct. They joined today.

Then again I have no doubt some based experienced player / or a hacker could've ruined their experience/impression

[sonic umbra]

Oh no! Anyway

[wicked solstice]

this guy is like a pillar of the modding community

[merry crypt]

wait did i get tricked?

did McCad just use a copypasta?

[rose nova]

i think so

seems pretty secure

secure... sure... seems pretty fair to think that

[merry crypt]

man :(

[analog flicker]

not surprised ngl

then again I never dived deep into modded content outside of the QoL

[unkempt glen]

https://tenor.com/view/mad-gif-24958452

[cedar steppe]

@last bay is a scaredy cat

[honest meteor]

is gtfo worth it if i join lfgs?

[rose nova]

i would say sures :]

in the LFG u might find ur definitive group too

[analog flicker]

[rose nova]

like some funky dudes u just dm every once in a while like 'hey wanna play'

[honest meteor]

ye

[analog flicker]

inb4 they slide into Slendo's DMs

"Hey"

[rose nova]

dont slide into mine unless its smoothly

[rose nova]

ok good enough

[pine root]

Mcchad get pinged loser

[wicked solstice]

:3

[analog flicker]

[pine root]

@modern coral there are so many gtfo bugs based solely on fov

[analog flicker]

I play on default FOV

There is nothing wrong with it

at all

[pine root]

There is

[analog flicker]

Issa sarcasm

[pine root]

The area you can aim for a valid rez has shrunk

[analog flicker]

playing on the lower fov is funny when you ads

[pine root]

I am not even joking so higher fov players can rez shoot easier

Yeah it is

[wicked solstice]

there is

do not

[pine root]

Hip fire isn’t correct
Culling doesn’t work on high fov (void bug)
Interact bar scales with fov

[modern coral]

Interact bar scales with fov
What does this mean?

[pine root]

If you use higher fov you have more room for interaction apparently

[analog flicker]

what FOV does the RayaLoft even play at

👀

[pine root]

So you can aim father from a person who is down and still rez them

[analog flicker]

that's just visual-

[pine root]

Apparently it is just a a tiny amount

Naaa you can switch between to two to see

Some that are valid on 120 aren’t on 20

Middle of the screen doesn’t change

Only matters for shooting rezes really

And maybe some perfect frames on grabbing items but probs not

[analog flicker]

[pine root]

Pixels

They matter

Honestly the culling and hip fire is the bigger issue

[analog flicker]

my mom: how can you see that guy. he's like 2 pixels. but then you can't find the butter in the fridge

[modern coral]

75/108

Ver/Hor

[analog flicker]

hm

the setting in-game

is vertical iirc right?

[modern coral]

Yeah.

[analog flicker]

if so I have it set to 100

I felt like that's just before the screen just begins feeling like that fisheye effect

[modern coral]

That do be p wide

[analog flicker]

120 also just feels like my distancing between enemies is so fucked

like I'm touching them even though visually There's still space

[wicked solstice]

i do like 85

[analog flicker]

I used to do 90

[wicked solstice]

slendo does 55

[analog flicker]

isn't that

default-

[wicked solstice]

yes

[gray pilot]

[analog flicker]

I'll try out 75 though

since it is closer to what's intended

[wicked solstice]

i tried to convince him to expand

something something my immersiob

[analog flicker]

what's up FireHAMMER

[wicked solstice]

oh hey it's firebat

[analog flicker]

[gray pilot]

Greetings you wounderful human beings from the GTFO community

[wicked solstice]

holy, he w i d e

[analog flicker]

[gray pilot]

Flowers, rainbows and kisses for all of you

[wicked solstice]

[rose nova]

thank u the rainbow really aligns with my gay :3

[gray pilot]

Not for you

[analog flicker]

KISSES???

[wicked solstice]

XD

[rose nova]

:c

[gray pilot]

55 fov andy

[wicked solstice]

there goes slendo

[glossy galleon]

[wicked solstice]

XD

[rose nova]

my rainbow q-q

[wicked solstice]

yeah stop using 55

[rose nova]

no >_<

its my fov!

deal with it!

[glossy galleon]

95

w<

[wicked solstice]

ok deal with no Mr Blade rainbows

[rose nova]

qwq

ok.....

ill consider it

[gray pilot]

Increase your fov by 1 every day

[unreal crystal]

when are u doing the 55 fov r4e1 challenge fireblade

[gray pilot]

When r8 comes out

[unreal crystal]

aight see u in 20 years

[gray pilot]

[pine root]

I just found out that you can change your weapons

Been stuck on pistol heavy assault bio hammer forever

I can’t seem to switch back through

I played the tutorial and now I have a smg shotgun burst sentry and bat

Can anyone help me

[rose nova]

no

[serene jewel]

In the lobby simply click on the weapon to pull up the equipment menus

[rose nova]

nono

let em stay with the bat :]

[pine root]

You can do that

[rose nova]

no

no u cant

!

[pine root]

What is so good about the bat

[rose nova]

being the bat

[pine root]

Nice

Give me a second will boot up

[rose nova]

haha boot shoe

[pine root]

How about shyou tell me your steam id /Jk unless 🥺

[gleaming marten]

русские?

[robust gull]

i'm here to point out, when battling a p mom you must channel your inner abortion clinic and machine gun the babies

[pine root]

What the fuck

This server is cringe peace

[rose nova]

whAT

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[robust gull]

what?

do you not like the sound of daka daka and like 40 squishy heads being popped

[cedar steppe]

im the only in the chat.

[pine root]

Back to the topic at hand. Is a good loadout smg sniper sniper sentry spear

[cedar steppe]

sure

[pine root]

I feel like they all seem cool

[cedar steppe]

they are

[pine root]

Okay and how do I lfg

Or find players or what ever

[cedar steppe]

click on lfg north america

[pine root]

Where

[cedar steppe]

if you dont see it sroll to the top of the left side and click on channels and roles

then find lfg north america and check its box

[pine root]

Thx thx

[cedar steppe]

np

[rough robin]

did. did you assume you were just stuck with them permanently

[serene jewel]

100% every rundown and you unlock the next melee weapon

sadly its the spear next

[elfin osprey]

uhmm

i though the starter weapon choice was bat+ burst sentry+ smg+ shotgun

they put that for default in training

[pine root]

Yeah

Thought levels would give me them back

[pine root]

I can assure you in this case it was not

[elfin osprey]

i mean like, u can change ur weapon, but the basic loadout work

its just

[pine root]

Idk man when I played died in r1a1

[elfin osprey]

lack of alot of stuff

[elfin osprey]

how, unless ur alone, bots still can carry it

[pine root]

I had pistiol heavy assault bio hammer

Then I did training and it changed

[elfin osprey]

u have a hammer

thats everything u need

[pine root]

THERE IS BOTS IN THE GAME

[elfin osprey]

then why did u fail

bots are dumb, but they do help alot

[pine root]

I was alone

[elfin osprey]

?

so, you play with bots

that still count as something

[pine root]

No how do I do that

[elfin osprey]

its not alone

[serene jewel]

a new player is still a new player

[elfin osprey]

fair

hmm

[elfin osprey]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[pine root]

This is how I play with bots

[elfin osprey]

read this guide and find someone who can teach

[pine root]

How do I find a teacher

Is there a gtfo school

[elfin osprey]

no

u can create a lobby, at a note: please dont carry, i need to learn the basic

[wraith marsh]

nice dog bro

[elfin osprey]

u can also request for experience player to teach too

[pine root]

Like who

[rough robin]

wait a minute

[lilac lake]

Hello, everyone

[rough robin]

deception

[elfin osprey]

just put a note

and someone will join

[rough robin]

trickery!!!

[pine root]

Peter is tricky me???

[elfin osprey]

trickery?

u dont want me to do it hehee

[pine root]

Who have you tricked

[elfin osprey]

?

[pine root]

Why don’t I want you to trick me

[elfin osprey]

?

[rough robin]

deception..

he's a PHONY

[elfin osprey]

u dont want me to throw you into r7a1 then realise its a r7e1 run

[rough robin]

r7e1 good beginner level

[elfin osprey]

that is how i teach new hehe

[pine root]

Oh lol

[elfin osprey]

lets be real

r7e1 is stupid

[rough robin]

yes I despise it

[pine root]

is it

[elfin osprey]

u dont want to start with that level

[pine root]

What is up with it

[elfin osprey]

i wont spoil anything

[pine root]

Best to learn while drowning right

[elfin osprey]

let just say it will make u quit the game

[pine root]

Isn’t that the saying

[elfin osprey]

its diffrent

[pine root]

Hello nice artwork ❤️❤️❤️

[elfin osprey]

do we have a r1a1 tour guide currently avalable?

im busy so

someone bring this new to r1a1

[pine root]

Who would you recommend I will just @ them

I am sure it will go well

@green rivet

Someone told me you can help me

Their message is gone now though unfortunately

[green rivet]

what

do

you

want

[pine root]

Wow now I am jish

Crazy

[elfin osprey]

he wants a cary

br, there can only be 1 jish

[pine root]

well I am the new better jish

[elfin osprey]

eh

[elfin osprey]

is the old jish gone bread?

rip old jish, you will be missed

[pine root]

Truely a lose for gtfo

Peter it is me

[lilac lake]

Thx!

[simple locust]

Question about solo gameplay no bots : why I always see Youtuber video about solo content always pick guns ..like DMR? Is it possible to solo with normal rifle? general purpose gun type? Or because it's better to take out enemies real quick If soloing.

[boreal yew]

Long range, one shot staggering and fast TTK is the reason I believe.

But afterall it is a preference, especially for primary weapon (for secondary you'd likely to adapt to the level). Many vet players also solo levels just didn't bother upload youtube videos and they use whatever they want.

[pine root]

Shooter one shot is pretty good

Ngl

[junior latch]

mix of all of those aswell as good reload (when cancelled) plus a good mag size

[stark nexus]

need.... lobby....

[simple locust]

you mean looking for games? post in LFG chat.

[stark nexus]

Yeah just had one lobby they rushed directly and died so.... Yeah maybe it's time for me to uninstal this game forever.

[modern verge]

You could just do a lfg lobby with people that do not do this, as well as start off early with an easy level

i assume you've also done the tutorial?

[wispy bluff]

My man really managed to find the most incompetent squad there is.

Unless it was vets disrespecting stealth who couldn't keep up with some strikers

[mint light]

wouldn't be vets then. would it?

[coarse grail]

veteran after a heavy night of drinking

[mint light]

Taking Spear.

[elfin osprey]

hi new jish

new and fresher jish

smell great too

minty

[analog flicker]

Ngl I had like 3 games like this yesterday but I was already so tired I just kept quiet and offered advice when I could

My last 2 games were nice at least. Though we failed at the end of R4A2

Had a wave chasing me at the end

But sentries were killing some and then I had forward spawns

[wispy bluff]

Mah favorite

[analog flicker]

I started crying when I was reviving someone and then the guy who I revived prior started to Rev the guy I was already rezzing

[wispy bluff]

I still don't understand why game allows that

Fucking left 4 dead didn't.

[analog flicker]

GamedevHord

[wispy bluff]

Another W for L4D

[analog flicker]

Imean

L4d engine still gets played today

[wispy bluff]

Imagine polishing your games

[analog flicker]

Source2*

But eh

Half life 3? Nah

Half life 2 but on source^2

[wispy bluff]

Alyx is kinda that. Good stuff.

Unfortunately melts my GPU even on lowest possible settings.

[analog flicker]

I still gotta nab Half life games at one point

[wispy bluff]

You didn't?

[analog flicker]

I've slacked on it

Also because

[wispy bluff]

fake gamer

[analog flicker]

Black Mesa was releasing soon at the time

Next to other game releases

[wispy bluff]

Oh, that's fair.

Black mesa is great, just play that instead of original.

Hell, hl2 will feel like a downgrade to it, probably.

[analog flicker]

But my less pixels original microwave

Blowing up the guys food

[analog flicker]

That's just gmod

But with story

[wispy bluff]

Sort of. Still great games. They don't make them like they used to.

[analog flicker]

doesn't go past 2

And well ever since covid. Games haven't been the same period

Fucken unfinished/buggy/unpolished shit

Just look at Darktide. That shit is like in a state where it should have been AT LAUNCH right now

Not that we can really say anything

We play the bug hell called GTFO

Copium af

[wispy bluff]

I wonder if making this game on source engine would make it better.

[analog flicker]

Wouldn't be the same experience but more stable probably

[coarse lily]

still of one of the worst guns in the game, stats wise

[rose nova]

:]

lmao

[boreal yew]

Stats wise hel shotgun is OP

[wispy bluff]

I mean...

Let's just say it gives me confidence.

[coarse lily]

hel shotty is OP, stats wise

[rose nova]

shotgun hel stats wise is op

[analog flicker]

Based

Stats wise your opinions are very strong

Doesn't mean they are right. Or anyone's

[wispy bluff]

Doesn't get more objective than raw stats.

[rose nova]

yes it does if i bend reality

[elfin osprey]

is there a universe when going fast make the game disconect

techiclly its my normal speed for easy level

but how can go fast make game lag

[fallow escarp]

Ищу кто поможет с R1C2

[elfin osprey]

.t lfg i guess

[rose nova]

#hc-europe message !

[fallow escarp]

Чего?

[elfin osprey]

can u translate ?

[rose nova]

google translate save me

[elfin osprey]

do u understand what i say?

[rose nova]

У нас есть каналы для поиска лобби !

#lfg-eastern-europe

#lfg-eastern-europe

#how-to-matchmake

но есть и русский сервер

[rose nova]

!!

[fallow escarp]

Спасибо!

[junior latch]

it straight up isnt

or you trying to argue machine pp is goated op now lol?

[analog flicker]

Make hel revo have a better precision and then take away the pen. It's basically a DMR with shit for range

But I still get some people arguing pistol or rifle. Rival are similar to DMR

[junior latch]

yea no dont give hel revo precision lol

then it starts 1 tapping strikers and shooters

[wispy bluff]

Hey.

HEL Bullpup?

[elfin osprey]

hel auto pistol but with more damage, less stagger, more range

noice

and more reload rate

[rose nova]

yes lemme introduce u to this gun is very similar its called machinepistol

[junior latch]

some stats compared to all of the 13 main weapons

dmg/mag its 4th best (0.38 behind 3rd, which is machine pp)
10th on raw dps
12th in dmg/refill (bullpup being 0.04 dmg higher at 11th) which leads to its "bad" efficiency (generally 1 striker kill less per refill on max efficiency than other mains)
tied for 3rd highest precision multi (shooter 1 taps)
4th for TTK (behind hel revo, carbine and hel shotty)
1st (by far) for range

The gun also has a way easier time gettings its actual efficiency due to its range, semi automatic nature and being able to 2 shot.
Only guns that are noticeably more efficient and do that easily (having at least 10 meter range and preferably semi automatic) are hel revo and burst rifle

Carbine and Rifle are not even half a kill ahead. Hel shotgun for obvious reasons has range issues, pdw is a full auto

[wheat ice]

what should i use for r1c1? my friends and i have failed like 4 times already. we’ve died on the last wave twice

we were using 3 turrets and 1 bio tracker. we usually lose because we run out of tool refills 😭 even if we gather like all of them

what are the best turrets? we were using 2 shogun by the hole in the wall, and 1 burst

[junior latch]

whicht turrets were you using

oops

was slow reading

think about it

[rose nova]

best turrets r probs burst n sniper!

cause long hallways!

u see the enemies from really far away :O

[junior latch]

shotgun sentrys are low range, but they have long sight lines. (theres also that they chew through tool)

so the shotgun sentrys EAT through your tool

[wispy bluff]

Consider trying to gun only the first wave in order to save turret ammo

[rose nova]

take into account too u might not need 3 sentries for the first few rounds

[coarse grail]

shotgun sentry does the job of two sentries in half the time 💪

[rose nova]

o_o

[wispy bluff]

Burst are perfect all-rounder sentries. Shotguns and snipers are trickier.

The problem with sniper sentries is that you have to contend for kills with them, which wastes precious ammo.

[junior latch]

@wheat ice try bio + 3 burst sentrys and then have 1 guy on giant duty with their special (with a choke mod, burst cannon or sniper)

also where are you holding/shooting the wave?

[wispy bluff]

Put it far away and let it thin out the horde for you somewhere you can't see it

[rose nova]

we r all over the place kdsmkm

[wheat ice]

yea we always have way more ammo then tool ammo. probably because all 3 turrets can start killing them before we even see them really. so they do most of the work

[rose nova]

yeh u wanna use ur funky funky guns too!

[wispy bluff]

That's the problem.

[rose nova]

there b a lot of ammo!

[wispy bluff]

Don't let turrets do all the work.

[wheat ice]

pretty close to the terminal. like where that truck is, by the hole in the wall

[wispy bluff]

They are best when working alongside you, not instead of you.

Except for sniper.

[junior latch]

have the sentrys close to you
move up to the bridge room (that way you are also closer to the ressources). 1 guy can then move back to put in the code

also, as someone else said. You dont need all 3 from the start, put 1-2 down for the first 2-3 waves. Then add more when you need to

[junior latch]

so as always, i ignore you 2 and give out the straight up advice
no funky bullpup bussiness here

[wheat ice]

okay thank you guys. i’ll lyk how it goes lol

[rose nova]

heyy D:< im givin funky advice too!

[wispy bluff]

The shotgun sentry in the hole is a good idea. But 1 is enough, to thin out the wave.

[wheat ice]

don’t bust sentry’s not get the buff from the bio tracker? i thought that was the main reason for it

[wispy bluff]

Then have sniper snipe them from the catwalk

[junior latch]

its not artek
you wanna conserve tool, not get more used up

[junior latch]

nah bio is just incredibly busted generally for the information

but yea they dont get em

[wispy bluff]

Hey, shotgun sentry under bio is a perfectly fine creature.

Just save that one for later waves, it can skip the work day on first two.

[junior latch]

its not like r1c1 pushes you with intense waves, medium wave clear is perfect for it

[wispy bluff]

Except for hybrid assault finale.

Hate those spiky wh~

[junior latch]

its 3 hybrids and 3 giants

[wheat ice]

this is what kills us 💀

[little ridge]

Most issues newbies have with R1C1 are resolved by a guy with sniper popping hybrids tbh

[junior latch]

just have 1 guy with a heavy weapon and your team cover fire

[wispy bluff]

Classic, happens to everyone new.

[wheat ice]

like 5 hybrids and giants walk through at the same time

rip

[little ridge]

FYI it's 3 hybrids and I think 3 giants?

[wispy bluff]

Hybrids suck major A and require dedicated counter players. Like a sniper rifle.

[junior latch]

. yes

[little ridge]

I know because sometimes I manage to pop all hybrids and people wonder why "Hybrids don't spawn this time" 😄

[junior latch]

you repeatedly play r1c1

[rose nova]

i liks shootin enemies :3

what can i say

maybs they like usin guns too

[little ridge]

guess how many clears

[pale hemlock]

2

maybe 3

[coarse grail]

at least 1 for sure

[junior latch]

4 take it or leave it

[little ridge]

52

[pale hemlock]

damn I was so close

[coarse grail]

Eva was closest

congrats

[little ridge]

👍

[burnt flume]

I wanted to guess 12

52 is uh, a waste of time

[junior latch]

[coarse grail]

could have read a book in that time

[little ridge]

Any clear more than 1 on any map is either done for enjoyment or testing new things

[junior latch]

if you would expect an average time of 30 minutes, thats still 26 hours of r1c1

[echo oyster]

@quiet leaf check dm

[junior latch]

i got 9 clears on it

[little ridge]

I like point and click with "Use gun on sleeper"

[rose nova]

guns in this game r cool and thats a whole use guns level!

[burnt flume]

but there's so many other levels that let you do that

r3d1, r4e1, r4d1 even

[junior latch]

nothing as brain off rn tho

[pale hemlock]

R6 C3 is coming back soon 🙏

[little ridge]

I like standing still 😄

[junior latch]

maybe r7d2

[rose nova]

but not as much as c1!

:D

[coarse grail]

playing one handed

[junior latch]

r5b1 overload coming back fits the bill (and is way more fun than r1c1)

[coarse grail]

put reload on a mouse button and you're good

actually you can just click when empty right

[little ridge]

for sure

[coarse grail]

so yeah no problem

[little ridge]

The jokes I could do with this statement...

[junior latch]

thats not shooting sim, thats mine sim

[coarse grail]

I no longer feel comfortable playing C1 with Sleepo

[wary marlin]

i'm afraid of r8...every rundown from r5 have less extreme/overload(and pe) obj then others...if we have 2 pe only in r7, how many pe will be in r8? 1?

[winged narwhal]

there are 3 PEs in R7

[rose nova]

plus one overload and one extreme

[winged narwhal]

R6 only had 2 though

[rose nova]

plus like 4 extremes :b

[winged narwhal]

R6 had, not counting the ext which added another secondary, a total of 5 secondaries

[rose nova]

ah :3

[winged narwhal]

the 2 from the PEs plus 3 (4 after ext) more

[pine root]

R8 will probably have 2-4 pes

But having 7 in a rundown is insane tbh and a lot of pes in r4 aren’t very amazing

I would argue almost all the pe’s past 6 were done Better

[junior latch]

^

[winged narwhal]

I definitely would prefer fewer, higher quality PEs than more, lower quality

[wary marlin]

we need d and e-tier PEs

[winged narwhal]

If I want more all I have to do is download some mods

[junior latch]

there might be stuff like R4D2pe and R4C3pe, but theres also R5B1pe which is just tedious at the end

[pine root]

D and e teir pes generally make the game very long

R5d1 pe isn’t good

[junior latch]

thats not a PE

[pine root]

Deeper is pe??

I thought

[junior latch]

its only a main plus secondary

[pine root]

Oof unfortunate

But some difficulty in gtfo isn’t harder they are just asking for more of your time

In contrast to r6c3 pe

Which it is the same

And r6d3 pe it doesn’t extend the level to much

[wary marlin]

but if it will be good why not...short levels more often will be boring then long...i dont like very short missions

[junior latch]

honestly r6 had some great optionals worked into levels with c2, c3 and d3

d2... eh

b2

[rose nova]

b2 :3
b2 is the only extreme ik of that rundown

so for me isnt bad

cause idk anythin else KMSKDM

[pine root]

1 large levels don’t work very well(frames)
2 most of the time they have boring level design or you back track through empty rooms and the community doesn’t do well with respawns

When I say short level design to be beat in 30-45 mins it is being compare to levels that ask 1 and half hours

Is a very good length for gtfo levels

[wary marlin]

its time for newbies or for vets? cuz vets will do missions faster or much faster

[pine root]

Time for vets newbies make levels much much longer and it is impossible to really judge their level speed

They can take upwards of 5 minutes to clear a single room

[wary marlin]

Some players will always break game/mechanics/levels(like cheese spots), making game unplayable for others...maybe level design not so boring, but when ppl start abusing limitations of the game, any level start to be boring

like infinite kiting

ppl dont playing game how it was intended and this cause many problems with design, balance and more

i know, that i can be wrong, but

some of this definitely true

[serene berry]

That's a separate issue

[pine root]

It can be but that is the fault of intermittent play compared to free play

Unfortunately I fall squarely on the intermittent end of the spectrum

But gtfo has some pretty boring designs choices

[wispy bluff]

R4 C2

[wary marlin]

they had small dev team, i dont think that they had many design choices

[pine root]

They have many choices

Rng level generation was a choice

[wispy bluff]

There is no correlation there

[pine root]

Cell walks are a choice

Back tracking through empty rooms choice

[wary marlin]

they could try it, but game code couldnt accept changes...if look at bug collection...

[junior latch]

not a good one necessarily lol

[pine root]

I would argue they just didn’t make good use of that choice

[wary marlin]

ye, possible too

[junior latch]

no, real rng level design (even if done decently well (see deep rock)) has lots of issues

[pine root]

If I could generate a level that no one has seen to blind with friends over and over I would be fine for a few hundred more hours

Yeah I understand but gtfo lends itself well to rng levels

[junior latch]

meh

for casual fun yes

[pine root]

You can put a few hundred templates for larger levels into a box

[wary marlin]

what about random modificators? like change all sleepers to shadows(bigs and chargers too)

[junior latch]

but weve discussed this with others before

the level design would be so fucking hard to balance

random map design is imo a crutch

its why i FUCKING LOATHE "metroidvanias" with random maps

like fuck

thats not metroidvanias

[pine root]

Yeah but it lends well to small team hardcore games

[analog flicker]

Where modifier for increased Giant spawns

[junior latch]

i disagree

[analog flicker]

[junior latch]

it can work as an addon

but not as the core experience

its why deep rock will always be more casual

[pine root]

I mean deep rock is designed to be a sandbox

[analog flicker]

You can't stop me from turning all the dwarves into Lolis and Loli Bosco and MC into a loli

I mean wut.

[pine root]

I wonder what changes you need to do to make fully rng levels good in gtfo

[analog flicker]

Actually fix game

[pine root]

List objective becomes more important

[analog flicker]

Make tutorial better

Rather than a hacker troll

[pine root]

As well as maybe a and or or option on the list fliters

[wary marlin]

deep rock was a bar simulator. Shooter was added as a big dlc

[rose nova]

ah yes very related to random maps :3

[analog flicker]

Tutorial rng map when

[rose nova]

'what do we need for random generated maps
FIX THE HEL GUN'

w whu

[analog flicker]

Make Hybrids chargers so they have no head multi

[junior latch]

jish, people are hating on them for not making well designed hard levels

you think random levels will do that?

[pine root]

I don’t think their most of levels

Are better than random tbh

[rose nova]

o_o

[junior latch]

they are :>

[pine root]

Most of

[rose nova]

how

[pine root]

well some are

R7e1 r7d2

[junior latch]

have you seen actual random levels?

[pine root]

No how can I test

[rose nova]

i bet random maps almost all of em would b just r2c1 original but longer and w/o the changes that level has like no shadows fog blood doors with scouts n so on

and 2 hours long

[junior latch]

the random levels would be shit 90% of the time

ok 9% of the time

1% would be great

YAY

great return

[pine root]

I feel like 90% they would be fucked

[wary marlin]

random lvl with random spawn...e-tier with one sleeper in the zone? wtf...

[pine root]

But that is the fun

[pine root]

You can put limits to how things need to generate

not truely random curated

Like what is done now I just argue for more randomness compared to less

[analog flicker]

finds backwards shelves and we can't access the crate

[wary marlin]

i think random events on levels could be more interesting

[analog flicker]

[pine root]

But we find this shit

In levels rn

Like

[junior latch]

designed levels having random things in them to make them different between playthroughs (more than just different spawn zone) by choice could be nice

[pine root]

Cell IN THE dycking wall

[junior latch]

but fully random

is a crutch

[pine root]

This is what I am arguing for

Like 100 templates that just generate

Random tile set sleepers and objectives

[analog flicker]

LF>GTFO Rogue-lite

[pine root]

Na it is just more content for me to run through

[wary marlin]

it will be very hard to balance reactor missions

[pine root]

It really fucking wouldn’t

[rose nova]

i get that u could argue that most gtfo levels r borin and just rehashes of old shit, but at least some introduce, sometihin, an idea even if its trash
r7b2 had dense fog, r4b3 has alarms near eachother, r2c1 had shadows and a strat u had to follow
something, but random generated levels would either be broken, absolutely broken in every single way like doors repeatin, loops, 7 keys 7 generators, impossible difficulty, spitters, 7 bosses in a room

[pine root]

It would be hard to balance for “tight” reactor missions

[rose nova]

the problem is random generated levels cant do new ideas

[pine root]

There isn’t new ideas

Rn

[gritty crypt]

Ore no nawa Eren Yeigah.

[pine root]

We are literally playing through old level design

[rose nova]

rn? r7 introduced so many!
and the alst are just IDK

[wary marlin]

time for codes can be broken too

[rose nova]

old rundowns

so

what did expect

we are seein those new ideas now

well, those old new ideas

[pine root]

No you can do a bit of math

[rose nova]

idk how to express it

[pine root]

And it will be fine

[analog flicker]

Modifier: spitter infestation

Every room has spitters

[wary marlin]

its gtfo, nothing will be right

[pine root]

Modifiers would be cool

[wary marlin]

something will break xD

[pine root]

If your just a contrarian because you arent creative you can stop typing 🙃

[rose nova]

thats another problem
see gtfo is balanced by hand, if u wanna add new reactors uplinks and shit, now u have to not only code it, but create actual, mathematic formulas to just see if its even possible

[pine root]

it 100% is possible

[analog flicker]

That's such a Hacker thing and not very engineer of you

(Sarcasm plis)

[wary marlin]

just kidding, of course everything can be done but its depends on desire

[junior latch]

to point something out

the thing jish seemed to have "implied" first (fully random levels) would not work well at all
random things in levels are usually appreciated (see r7d2 room layout due to a bug)

modiferys could be cool, COULD

[analog flicker]

Would

[rose nova]

of course it is, but itll take not only an unholy amount of time and resources, but its actually just gonna stop production of rundowns
maybe AFTER r8 if we dream high but even so it would b such a hassle i wouldnt b surprised it took, more than a year JUST to make it semi playable

[analog flicker]

But yeah

Could works TOO

[pine root]

I mean ngl the math would probably take 2-3 days implementing would take way longer but that is just because you have to remake a game

[analog flicker]

I just imagine them still saying no modded content after r8 and stop of updates

[rose nova]

i like to dream they r gonna open the code but we dont know

[wary marlin]

what about some events in mission? can it make lvl more interesting?