Then scans/progress
#gtfo-chat
pine root
Killing enemies so they don’t group up/ killing the right enemies
5 strikers all at once much scarier than one at a time
vestal crystal
Target selection for staggering is also super important
pine root
But honestly just stay alive.
Rushing scans might not be possible always
Choosing good scans to rush is helpful but not required
Having good gun skill is probably important
vestal crystal
Yeah there's a lot of decision making when doing alarms solo that a lot more useful feedback can be given if you have a clip or a specific example
pine root
Yeah the best advice is just stay alive and shoot good
vestal crystal
Stay alive isn't really helpful though
vestal crystal
There's advice/tips you can give someone on how to stay alive
pine root
There's advice/tips you can give someone on how to stay alive
Dodge, remember to shoot don’t use your hammer
Remember to aim
sharp siren
Stay alive isn't really helpful though
wachu want him to tell him
kill h m self
Jump infront of the big striker for better angle to hs them
vestal crystal
Tell him to use good guns like knife/bullpup/precision rifle
last parrot
knife is the best gun in the game
vestal crystal
This is also a good example of advice that's more than "don't die"
Although don't die is in there, there's more things than that
vestal crystal
Rayalot moment....
sharp owl
i didnt get a cosmetic for completing r2b4 for the first time
cant have shit in the complex
wait what i do have the right amount of cosmetics
but still i didnt get a drop from r2b4
no im not counting the limited time backpack
pine root
Did you finish everything else
rose nova
i just heard from a post that said the backpack can like
replace the normal apparel
...
um
fak
toxic kraken
TFW u bring 3 turrets to a mission where u have to defend a heavily doored area 🥲
real shame if i had C foam and mines
but i do not
sharp owl
Did you finish everything else
if you mean every other level no im playing through everything in order with some friends
we just did r2b4 today
pine root
Unfo
sharp owl
i have the correct number of cosmetics from all the expeditions ive done anyway so oh well
just weird i didnt get one from this one
toxic kraken
bad for noob
sharp owl
just shoot them tho
sharp owl
you can get off the terminal as long as you stay by it
rose nova
ik im jokin
i play bots i need to do it lmao
but still
i dont wanna until i read code
sharp owl
lol
toxic kraken
and i didnt know fog = spicy air until it was too late for my eyesight
COUGH COUGH
wibble wobble terminal letters
rose nova
das why u always check infection just in case
toxic kraken
no disinfect packs to be found
sharp owl
i hate the sound of the infeccted breathing it actually makes me feel sick
toxic kraken
das why u always check infection just in case
yes i learned that now
rose nova
i hate the sound of the infeccted breathing it actually makes me feel sick
well they are
like
sick
so
rose nova
yes i learned that now
:D
sharp owl
maybe
sharp owl
i do have a fog repeller next to me (fan)
rose nova
then idk :[
well know u now in ur group u should b the one hoardin the disinfect
just in case
rose nova
i like the sounds- well i dont like em but i think they r cool, but just makes me angry stamina doesnt have like any visual effects and only infection gets to like have em
toxic kraken
i mean
it makes sense that the fog would make the MFs cough so much
i mean have you HEARD their asthma dropping down from the hole?
WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZE
sharp owl
im fine with the coughing its just the raspy breathing
toxic kraken
its SO loud
toxic kraken
WHEEEZE
HUAAAAAAAEEEE
toxic kraken
is like the bullets
i mean ye, but bullets are supposed to be loud
like really loud
so that makes sense
rose nova
just lower ur volume aint that hard cmon /j
toxic kraken
but the WHEEEZING
toxic kraken
_just lower ur volume aint that hard cmon_ /j
oh i tried
toxic kraken
mr wub wub in the corner told me how bad of an idea that was
rose nova
like the disinfect
toxic kraken
couldnt hear him for crap 💀
rose nova
skill issue
ok no but i dont think its even like as loud as the dialogue
which is
funky
toxic kraken
skill issue
ok no but i dont think its even like as loud as the dialogue
pretty sure it is louder than the dialogue, just the starting WHEEEZE as u drop
i have to pause what im listening to when the drop starts
but i have no issues hearing it even when firing weapons with no volume changes
toxic kraken
maybe u should try coughin irl to counter it
oh question
how do things like overloads work
ive heard of them and saw their progress marker (0/whatever)
but what actually are they
rose nova
optional objectives on a mission
toxic kraken
hmm i dont think ive seen any of those
rose nova
u go in with ur hel autopistol, u find a key, put it in a machine and it tells u 'do u wanna do the main mission or this funky secondary shit' and then if u do the secondary, it gives u another key to go back to the main one
it only appears on rundown 4 and 7
so
u newies cant handle it
jk
it got introduced on r4
toxic kraken
tertiary
rose nova
harder than the other two or makin the level more harder
toxic kraken
fr fr
toxic kraken
i hate that word
quaternary :gigachad:
quinary
senary
septenary
octonary
nonary
bruh these are wack
"oh yeah our senary task is to go fix a generator"
a MF says that and im staying away from him 💀
undone finch
hey guys, has anyone run into crashes or glitches when they try to do r1c1?
rose nova
i havent heard of that specific level but ive heard of funky crashes n stuff
but what do u mean by glitches
lofty grotto
Hahaha! I gave two of my gtfo friends a massive surprise
rose nova
u snipered em :D
lofty grotto
Yes. I had a voice this whole time. For the past like 20 years
lofty grotto
Lol
Not evil. Have a good reason on that
I had 15 years of speech therapy JUST for the capability to use my voice
Also… I was wary of people thinking deaf people are “dumb” or along the lines of that.
queen cobalt
hello
lofty grotto
Hello friend
rose nova
hoii
rose nova
I had 15 years of speech therapy JUST for the capability to use my voice
um i wasnt expectin that im sorry i was just jokin i shouldnt im sorry
lofty grotto
um i wasnt expectin that im sorry i was just jokin i shouldnt im sorry
No need to apologize XD
queen cobalt
dhfhr
lofty grotto
I actually can tell if someone is acting bad or not
rose nova
well i act bad :3
actin is hard i cant portray romeo the right way
lofty grotto
well i act bad :3
actin is hard i cant portray romeo the right way
I mean more in terms of intent
rose nova
ik i was jokin there too ksks
im forgettin to use the /j i should more often qwq
but its hard to remember
lofty grotto
XD
west stag
did they add checkpoints in missions?
modern coral
did they add checkpoints in missions?
In Alts? No.
rose nova
only in r6 and r7
west stag
i only started the game today.are there checkpoints in the very first mission?
west stag
is it soloable?
rose nova
like- well depends where u start i guess
also it is with bots its just harder
not by a super long shot
but u need to learn some stuff quicker and adapt to em
west stag
do bots make it harder?like increase enemies
modern coral
Levels don't scale w/ player count.
rose nova
nope
rose nova
they kinda are but they normally dont interfere with like gameplay, they just like walkin turrets that help out on alarms
also they do that cause the doors have a super smol hole when they start breakin down
and the bots try to aim there
but
fail miserably
like me
:]
rose nova
um depends, shorters ones r about 30 mins or so and longer if u take em slow can go for 2 hours or so
modern coral
Varies a lot based on skill level.
rose nova
missions can b longer
it just depends on ur pace
u can take 3 hours on one if u like take it super slow n methodical
modern coral
There's only like 3 levels total I can think of that would be 2+ hours even at a slower pace.
rose nova
... rn?
oh no way more i bet
r2d1 r7d1 r7b2 r7c2...
maybe some r stretched but
u get it
west stag
ahh i gotta git gud ig
rose nova
yeah this is a game that relies very heavily on learnin every concept it throws at u
modern coral
oh no way more i bet
I don't think so, you'd have to be repeat-checkpointing or outright AFK to get 2h+ runs usually.
modern coral
Like, everything you listed is like maybe 1.5h if you're slow.
modern coral
Bruh
modern coral
The standout long levels to me are R4E1, R5D1, and R5E1.
I just don't think anything is quite in the same league as those 3.
modern coral
But those are levels where the average clear is 2+ hours.
west stag
in total how many missions are there?
rose nova
i mean different tactics am um kinda mh depends but ah well u will see
good luck with ur runs
and remember bots have tools u can use with the quick chat pressin Q
bronze merlin
If I just started GTFO (no games yet), can I join games for later sectors? Like R1A3
sharp owl
if someone gave you the lobby code, yes you can join them
bronze merlin
gotcha
sharp owl
you can even start at e tier levels if someone brings you to it
looking for one for R1B2 we have 3
crisp dagger
looking for one for R1B2 we have 3
still got space?
sharp owl
still got space?
yea
crisp dagger
send the link
barren blaze
does someone have a spot open for 1?
i just downloaded the game so i am new to the game, if thats not a prob
mint light
does someone have a spot open for 1?
Post in there according to the format you see others post. GL👍
barren blaze
thanks!
latent palm
junior latch
r2d1 r7d1 r7b2 r7c2...
maybe some r stretched but
of those only r7c2 rly can go above 2 hours unless you REALLY go slow
little ridge
One thing I'd like to add is that it also depends on what people mean by "going slow"
If I've NO idea what the map has and where to go and I need to come up with where to defend or what zones I need to loot then the playtime inflates
junior latch
yea blind playthroughs always take longer
first r4e1 attempt that went long took 3 hours
actual clear 2 25
and we could do it way quicker now
little ridge
Yeah I think whenever people especially newbies (not speaking about slendo here) say that maps take "over two hours" they're probably only counting their first attempt blind at it.
junior latch
its a bit worse with checkpoint clears
but ye beginners always take longer
hell my og r4b2 clear was 3+ (with some breaks)
little ridge
Which you could argue it's a fair metric since it's not like you're supposed to look a playthrough and take notes, part of the experience is probably implied to be learning by yourselves
junior latch
usually anything reaching 3 hours or above is party induced
little ridge
What I mean to say is, counting blind attempts is probably a fair point towards the "it takes 2 hours"
junior latch
it rly depends on the skill level anyway
say r4c2
pure beginners will take upwards of 3 hours easily blind
while vets with terminal usage will take 1 hour to 1 hour 30
little ridge
It took me aeons to find the terminal in the Scout Zone ;_;
swift marsh
Btw, whats your favourite weapon loadout? (And why?)
coarse lily
DMR + DMR
modern verge
I am a simple man, hel revolver/smg + choke mod
normal lake
Btw, whats your favourite weapon loadout? (And why?)
carbine or pdw as a main simply because they are good weapons and pretty well rounded. Secondary heavily depends on the map but going in blind i usually take a machinegun due to being well rounded for most enemies.
im to unreliable with my aim to use the single shot weapons very effectively so i just stick with the machine guns
wary marlin
hel revo...i hate hel revo
sharp owl
Bullpup and precision rifle
little ridge
Maracas and a single use shovel
junior latch
what are the best weapons now?
pff
Hel revo and carbine
(Hel shotgun and rifle being pretty good aswell, sameish for dmg, burst rifle and pdw)
Combat shotgun, hel gun, veruta machine gun for specials? Tho obviously those guns are more specialized so it depends on what and when you use it
little ridge
I should retry the HEL Shotty tbh
swift marsh
Tbh, my fav loadout is DMR, sniper. It's really just a: Look, i instahradshot small enemies (Full auto weapons just feel soon underwhelming, magdumping an entire clip into an enemy is sure fun if I have the mags for it) And the sniper is just the big fat: "I will never see you again" - card.
Tried the Carbine but it feels like it does no damage. And the PDW is nice but I can't be bothered with recoil learning
So bullpup it is (best firing sound as well)
junior latch
full autos feel a lot better on host imo
The feedback is way more fluid
junior latch
Tried the Carbine but it feels like it does no damage. And the PDW is nice but I...
carbine dmg is insane tho
rly high burst, quick to kill. Insane damage per magazine aswell
swift marsh
I have regularly had things take an entire burst and do nothing. Maybe because I can't pull it down enough tho
junior latch
So bullpup it is (best firing sound as well)
bullpup be like
Let me be stuck reloading the pea shooter 
swift marsh
Well yeah
junior latch
I have regularly had things take an entire burst and do nothing. Maybe because I...
i mean its supposed to take at least 2 bursts for strikers
you can technically 1 burst shooters, but its unreliable
swift marsh
That is 100% the bullpup
But you can just aim it at jeadlevel and know: Half the wave is dead after that
little ridge
Please Johnny share more insights
swift marsh
Exactly, but why waste like 5 shots just for something like the dmr to Just onetap them
swift marsh
Please Johnny share more insights
Nah I bad
junior latch
bullpup having to reload after a max 5 (more commonly 2-4) kills per mag is oof
swift marsh
Yeah it is. But you can hit weak spots a lot better (If you cannot control recoil cuz brain smooth. Like me)
junior latch
Exactly, but why waste like 5 shots just for something like the dmr to Just onet...
dmr only 1 taps shooters 
(and has by far the worst ammo economy)
also carbine bursts are basically its „bullets“
swift marsh
Really? I instaheadshot the runners as well. Does hp scale with difficulty
little ridge
"Instahradshot"?
junior latch
only if you take boosters
swift marsh
"Instahradshot"?
I'm on mobile, have mercy
junior latch
or they took any amount of dmg before you headshot them with dmr
junior latch
its not smth to test lol
little ridge
If you're an headshot machine you can also stick to other weapons that are a bit more versatile than the DMR imho
junior latch
its basic knowledge here
junior latch
dmr 1 headshotting shooters is neat tho and by far the biggest pull it has for me over hel revo
swift marsh
So revolver, carbine and PDW are the go to weapons
junior latch
well that and its mag size being a bit bigger
junior latch
So revolver, carbine and PDW are the go to weapons
for you?
or what 
little ridge
PDW's super helpful in maps with ||shadows||
junior latch
PDW's super helpful in maps with ||shadows||
Honestly took it for e1 so i could shoot well with sniper on all parts of the map basically
little ridge
for you?
or what <:musicmommyThink:1020778304388739092>
I think he wants a general idea of all-purpose decent guns
swift marsh
for you?
or what <:musicmommyThink:1020778304388739092>
Nah I mean generally. I'm always looking for something with good ammo economy and damage output. Have had good time with the revo
junior latch
they changed that and it doesn't really work well with fog tbh
yeah, you need to be pretty close in light fog
swift marsh
And sadly I can't take the 300 round drum mag on the sniper
wispy bluff
Then yeah, HEL Rev, Carbine and PDW are the most universal main weapons at the moment. Maybe pistol, although not to the same extent.
And for specials its goddamn veruta or nothing.
junior latch
pff
Hel revo and carbine
(Hel shotgun and rifle being pretty good aswell, sameis...
. This is a basic answer
artek… pistol?
pdw is the best full auto
but god its average otherwise
take it if you wanna play full auto or want the thermal
wispy bluff
Its a better SMG at least
junior latch
pdw is the best full auto
.
wispy bluff
just point towards enemy, doesn't even need ADS
little ridge
Pistol, the worst rifle.
wispy bluff
the circle reticul is a liar
basically a laser
wispy bluff
its always like 50% bigger than actual hipfire accuracy
swift marsh
Lul. Does the recoil of the carbine still kick as much on hipfire?
junior latch
hel revo is also very similar to dmr, trades 1 shot shooter, range and bigger mag vs more ammo and pen
wispy bluff
its like mag dumping a pistol
swift marsh
Oh. I must give it a try again
junior latch
carbine has recoil ?
wispy bluff
its a very boring weapons, but it works
swift marsh
carbine has recoil ?
For me for anything longer than 2m it has
junior latch
it feels like you are actually mowing down stuff with it
coarse lily
Then yeah, HEL Rev, Carbine and PDW are the most universal main weapons at the m...
DMR is not included?
wispy bluff
nah, cringe gun
the couple of times i used it - its absolutely miserable
if i want to snipe - i'd rather take the more reliable The Rifle or if i really want to embrace the "sniping's a good job" - i take precision rifle
wispy bluff
But unlike DMR it oneshots strikers to the head. From quite a range too.
... provided you can hit anything with that mess of a scope
coarse lily
8 then reload
junior latch
dmr is only underappreciated due to hel revo
coarse lily
Precision Rifle is a good gun but the reload is off putting
coarse lily
dmr is only underappreciated due to hel revo
I think it's based on preference
junior latch
i mean hel revo is definetly stronger generally
coarse lily
DMR doesn't have the gun blocking the sight, I hit things much easier
junior latch
but dmr is also rly rly good
coarse lily
Also i dont have to worry about my shots getting weaker after 8m
junior latch
Hel revo has 10m range
coarse lily
I think DMR and Hel Revo are on the same level rather than 1 is better than the other
junior latch
and that basically only starts mattering 20+ meters out
hel revo:
Better ammo economy
Better reload cancel
Pen
Less sight block close range
Dmr:
1 tap shooter
bigger mag
Better range
coarse lily
the recoil though
junior latch
imo dmr is prob 3-4th best main. Worst top 5
junior latch
the recoil though
recoil?
coarse lily
shooting too fast with the hel revo makes the gun blocking the screen more
junior latch
hel revo recoil is only there if you spam. And then you just slightly pull down
if you spam you usually dont aim much anyway
little ridge
imo dmr is prob 3-4th best main. Worst top 5
What do you mean with 3rd best and 5th worst?
junior latch
and otherwise you just get into the rythm
coarse lily
I usually do artificial manual sideway recoil to see what's going on
junior latch
What do you mean with 3rd best and 5th worst?
at worst its a top 5 main
little ridge
ah ok
junior latch
I usually do artificial manual sideway recoil to see what's going on
Quick scope 
anyway, for the average user here dmr is underrated due to hel revo
coarse lily
that's just hip firing with high acc
coarse lily
lol
junior latch
its true tho :^ )
coarse lily
everyone be dogpiling on that gun except for blackdragon
or maybe he was just joking and I didnt pickup on it
junior latch
hm? i mean blackdragon knows its weak
guns still useable if you learn it and can put in work
coarse lily
i can't live without reload cancel
junior latch
its like carrying baby the whole way
we need more out of bounds spots 
coarse lily
Devs hate him, this speed runner got world record using this one weird tech 🙀
swift marsh
i can't live without reload cancel
How to reload cancel btw
wispy bluff
you switch weapons back and fourth when you see the ammo counter go up
junior latch
you shove and go back to weapon
swift marsh
Oh. Doesnt the weapon switch animation technically take longer?
Also cant you only shove with the melee weapon?
junior latch
weapon switching is slow
for some guns the switch is still way quicker than the reload
junior latch
Also cant you only shove with the melee weapon?
theres a „melee“ button
commonly c
that pulls out melee shove immediatly
swift marsh
Oh. I just get that by rightclikcing the hammer
junior latch
you just press reload, shove, gun
swift marsh
Oh. Thats nice
Btw, its sad that there isnt a shooting range to test guns and loadouts.
coarse lily
A1
swift marsh
A1? Really? Thats a normal run. Also another question, do the enemies become more difficult the higher the rundown? Or will they just be more plentiful? More difficult as in do they get more HP?
junior latch
enemies stats are static
New enemy types show up
the spawn cap and all is generally the same for all alarms. But those being longer (or spawning enemies in a different way) changes up
Sleeping enemies (usually) become more plentiful. But its more about new enemy types rly and them showing up more and more
mint light
A1? Really? Thats a normal run. Also another question, do the enemies become mor...
you'll get more types mostly
22 in total iirc
And yes A1 can function as a shooting range
swift marsh
the spawn cap and all is generally the same for all alarms. But those being long...
Ah. So like in the higher ones you will get like more of the big spitters instead of small ones (I have no idea about enemy types). Thats good to know
mint light
Ah. So like in the higher ones you will get like more of the big spitters instea...
let yourself be surprised
you'll get a lot of curveballs
swift marsh
curveballs?
mint light
curveballs?
yes.
swift marsh
what is that?
mint light
what is that?
Like you think to know how the game works and then it hits you with something new
swift marsh
Oh
mint light
and you have to play differently
swift marsh
Thats actually a good game design
junior latch
its not too much of a change, but theres some stuff youll have to beware off basically
mint light
Thats actually a good game design
I had someone complain about it before cause the game taught how to play in a certain way and then threw it out the window
according to him
swift marsh
So no more: "Hi, I have a rifle and you dont" - action on higher levels
mint light
but he was just raging
junior latch
So no more: "Hi, I have a rifle and you dont" - action on higher levels
hm?
swift marsh
In lower levels you just get a big gun and can just steamroll through everything and actually get away
At least according to my experience
Especially when you bring the big sniper
junior latch
sniper doesnt even rly matter for lower levels rly since giants are usually pretty rare
mint light
In lower levels you just get a big gun and can just steamroll through everything...
you'll see
no spoilerino for you
swift marsh
sniper doesnt even rly matter for lower levels rly since giants are usually pret...
Sometimes they appear in hordes. But scouts and the big ranged ones are relatively plentiful. But well, you just go in, pop their heads, then aimbro your way through the rest and you are usually good, especially if you have a few people with a big gun (Or you just bring the autoaentry and permastagger everything)
little ridge
At least according to my experience
Keep going, Johnny
mint light
Sometimes they appear in hordes. But scouts and the big ranged ones are relative...
ah yeah you wont be able to do that, learn to melee scouts as soon as possible
swift marsh
Keep going, Johnny
Yesterday my friends and I (3 man squad) Did the lv3, just to die in the extraction zone at 90%.
swift marsh
ah yeah you wont be able to do that, learn to melee scouts as soon as possible
You can melee them?
Without them getting triggered?
Teach me
swift marsh
?
swift marsh
Back or front?
mint light
doesnt matter
junior latch
Sometimes they appear in hordes. But scouts and the big ranged ones are relative...
sniper is the most overkill thing on a scout really
also chickens (big shooters) are relatively „rare“ and normal giants can be bursted down by al specials in the numbers they show up in early levels
mint light
Front sometimes doesnt work for me
jump
junior latch
Yesterday my friends and I (3 man squad) Did the lv3, just to die in the extract...
i presume r1b2?
swift marsh
The charge gun (idk, the thing that sounds like it shoots 20mm HEFTI rounds) seems to delete most
swift marsh
i presume r1b2?
yep. The second dna sample level
Usually only get one run per day (work be time eating) and we die mostly twice. Or more. Took us like 7 tries for the first one :/
Not a glorious run
junior latch
The charge gun (idk, the thing that sounds like it shoots 20mm HEFTI rounds) see...
just check the „standard“ name
Sniper, revolver, hel rifle, high caliber pistol
junior latch
anyway. R1B2 is still like… basic basic gtfo
gonna get more interesting when you go deeper in r1 aswell as anywhere into other rundowns
swift marsh
I expected so. The smoke is... very. VERY annoying tho
Triggered way more than we ever expected 90% of runs
Its too dense for my liking.
junior latch
r1b2 fog is pretty light
junior latch
well yea
swift marsh
🤮
junior latch
also id recommend to always take a biotracker on the team
mint light
IT GETS WORSE?
R1B2 is VERY light
swift marsh
We always have one with the tracker, one with the c-foam launcher and me with my autosentry
junior latch
cfoam, preferably only with mines
junior latch
for sentries… well, auto is for stagger only
mint light
We always have one with the tracker, one with the c-foam launcher and me with my...
make it a burst
swift marsh
Thats why we take it, buys a lot of time for me and my 5 year reload time. Also we usually tend to get overwhelmed by a horde, one HEL revolver, me with my dmr and my friend takes... something that normally cant handle large hordes aswell.
mint light
Thats why we take it, buys a lot of time for me and my 5 year reload time. Also ...
foam and mines ?
swift marsh
How to place them correctly, normall it only takes the first one and then the rest of the horde comes crashing in
mint light
How to place them correctly, normall it only takes the first one and then the re...
on the door
you never place mines in the open
sharp owl
on the doorframe, line across, in the side you're in
little ridge
In his defence, R1B2 doesn't have many foamable doors
There's only one that is around two (technically 3) alarms
I guess you can mine the last one
mint light
In his defence, R1B2 doesn't have many foamable doors
this is true
on R1B2 I would just take a 2nd sentry
little ridge
Yesterday my friends and I (3 man squad) Did the lv3, just to die in the extract...
For the record, R1B2's extraction scan starts another alarm, which makes the previous waves look meek in comparison
Well I'm exagerating a bit, nonetheless you get the idea
swift marsh
yeah, we got the sample, then ran for our lives, one of us died (To ranged things) And the other two of us were oneshot
little ridge
Also if you didnt already get a bot and give him bio, unless you want info while stealthing, in which case give him a sentry I guess
Bots are never going to wake stuff up no matter what, they can touch enemies and be so soft they keep sleeping
mint light
yeah, we got the sample, then ran for our lives, one of us died (To ranged thing...
did you clear the rooms on the way to extract ?
or stealth all the way to HSU?
swift marsh
did you clear the rooms on the way to extract ?
Yeah. We clear everything first
mint light
hmm must have been low on health then
swift marsh
Ofc we all were on low hp, waves are usually peppered with the thousands of snipers
And medkits are... rare is a glorious udnerstatement
mint light
Ofc we all were on low hp, waves are usually peppered with the thousands of snip...
I mean there is meds in the HSU zone. so that should be given just before launching HSU, NOT when finding it 🙂
mint light
And medkits are... rare is a glorious udnerstatement
terminals help
swift marsh
I have to learn much it seems. What can I all ping with terminals?
mint light
I have to learn much it seems. What can I all ping with terminals?
meds, cells, ID's, ammo, tool, terminals, generators etc etc etc
objectives
mint light
generators?
later
swift marsh
oh
mint light
Oh. We always just used it for objectives and keys
keys as well yes
but you can ping all your resources
swift marsh
Oh thats good to know
mint light
basically make it a habit when you enter a new zone. to list that zone
list U e_xx
then ping whatever you need
you'll be having way more resources to put to use
swift marsh
Thats going to become very useful. Thanks
mint light
👍
wary marlin
list U e_xx
it doesnt work with glp(or osip, dont remember)
wary marlin
it absolutely does
need to list them manually or use filter that include them in list
wary marlin
we dont know...maybe it was a bug, but devs decided to leave it as a feature
secrets...
swift marsh
Its no bug, its a feature. Best sentence in game development industry
swift marsh
I change my opinion, the Carbine and the PDW are really strong
Just where do I gotta shoot, sometimes I kill things almost instantly, sometimes they eat an entire mag
rose nova
always aim for a headshot, or a lil under so the recoil of the carbine the hits the head :D
swift marsh
Okay. So in hordes I just gotta stay calm and not randomly fire bursts at enemies
rose nova
unless like the r on
top of u and ur about to die then its ok to just like stagger enemies away from u with bodshots so u dont have to aim a lot
swift marsh
no but like when a horde is in teh doorframe then just shooting in there and hoping it kills something is useless
That scenario
rose nova
i mean with strikers u dont have to aim as much to the head, pdw is more of a spray n pray wepon either way
but shooters usually inhale a lot of bodyshots so thats what ur headshots should go for
swift marsh
The carbine I mean. But yeah, shooters live through what feels like everything
in times where they just piss me off I just grab the "Parry this you filthy casual" card (I bodyshot them with the könig)
rose nova
jesus ksdmk
aight funky way to do it but i guess it does oneshot em
swift marsh
Well you gotta have some fun too eh?
But well, I still test the different primaries. The dmr is... reliable, the carbine works pretty well and the pdw is. Kinda like the carbine but in full auto. I like all three tbh. Wish they just had like an actually usable primary weapon shotgun
rose nova
... hel shotgun :]
rose nova
it has 12 in mag and 100 total what do u mean it has more ammo than all the other shotguns ksmdk
wait was it 14 or 12...
14
rose nova
um from very close and lucky skdmk
but generally its another use
its more made to just full go for an entire wave
swift marsh
Horde stagger
rose nova
it has a wide spread, it penetrates, its full auto and yeah staggers fuck tons
so u can go up to like 10 enemies and just kill em like its nothin
swift marsh
Dear god, took three aimed shots at a regular sleeper. I know why I dont like it
Not my weapon it seems
rose nova
yeah its generally a bit of a niche use
but its the closes to a usable shotgun, is pretty good most time but its just funkier
swift marsh
I mean I definately see the use of it in a team
In the first door horde (I try everything on 1a1) the bots could basically just kill everything without retaliation
vapid island
use the hel pistol
swift marsh
Ofc, the titans and big ones
rose nova
it staggers em :]
ok no but u have a sniper for that KSMDKM
u dont use ur pdw on a big one
..
most times
swift marsh
no, you are right, you dont use anything but sniper on big ones
or the autocannon, that shits funny. Secondarys are all pretty nice tbh, not found anything that I didnt like. Primaries are the ones Im always trying to find the "perfect" gun
swift marsh
yeah. I love to do that too. Then I look at the ammo and think to myself: "24 reserve bullets. We are only in the third zone. FUUUUU"
rose nova
ah sniper moment
i actually never use sniper i cant aim so i just use other weapons
i tried burst cannon but the nerf hit it hard that recoil is massive, but its still a pretty nice weapon
swift marsh
Tbh: Use it on standing targets? I am a sniping god. Something runs at me: BOOM, BOOM, BOOM. Oh wait its still- OW!
rose nova
well yeah if the enemy ita standin still ill prob dont miss ksmdk
...
most times
i missed a scout like 2 times with the precision rifle
idek how
swift marsh
For a while I thought you cant headshots scouts so I shot their neck (kinda cruel, I know) Sometimes it instakilled them (Cuz head hitbox) sometimes it didnt.
Took me two runs to figure that out. Still a bit embarrasing
I think Ill try to get good with the carbine tho. Seems like fun. Although I still cant hit on long range with it
boreal yew
A sniper can back-shot a scout
rose nova
it is a medium range weapon
that's a problem i have with pdw
since i got the thermal i just waste ammo usin it as a super long range gun
swift marsh
Yeah. Thats why I like the DMR so much, it has no ineffective range
Something is far away: Boom, heaadshot. Sometimg is far enough: Well I have an ACOG, I can still hit it, something is directly in front of you: Hipfire and its gone
mint light
no, you are right, you dont use anything but sniper on big ones
choke
Veruta
It all works
swift marsh
Veruta was what again? The LMG?
mint light
Yep
swift marsh
Thats the bad thing about games like this: Everything is good and viable in its situation
boreal yew
LMG = light machine gun
rose nova
ahh
rose nova
Thats the bad thing about games like this: Everything is good and viable in its ...
that isnt bad :3
its great
i love takin different weapons to all missions lmao
swift marsh
Yeah. But I dont know what to play. What should I pick, do I try a full auto? Do I go for a semi auto? Do I go for the squad support? Do I try the shotgun? The sniper? The 20mm deleter of worlds?
vestal crystal
You should try all weapons and see which ones feel the best or most comfortable for you
swift marsh
Yeah thats what im doing all the time. I jsut cant decide. The DMR is my favourite rn but the carbine and PDW also feel so nice. The sniper is however MY fav secondary
I goddamn love this thing, just dome everything and win
If it had more ammo Id take it as primary and secondary weapon
vestal crystal
Also if you're playing with other people and not bots, you can pick accordingly to balance out the load out. If the other 3 are bringing pdw/carbines, dmr is a good choice
swift marsh
Oh one thing, is the normal rifle any good? Or does it have anything that the revolver or DMR dont already do better?
rose nova
the rifle is like a mix of the pistol and the dmr, it works best with headshots, has larges ammounts of ammo and has nice sounds, but it isnt as demandin as the dmr that u got 100 bullets and if u miss headshots u r done
and it isnt the pistol that u can just like spam when somethin is close to u and waste all 15 bullets
its a nice balance
swift marsh
But even if you hit headshots it cant oneshot. SO you have to hit two which is damn hard if you have something like a spitter that is at the edge of visibility already and runs like a toddler on sugar
coarse lily
and it isnt the pistol that u can just like spam when somethin is close to u and...
More damage than pistol, requires either same or less shots
More bullets per mag
Can kill baby striker anywhere on the body
swift marsh
baby striker?
rose nova
Striker but baby
congrats u just spoiled a newie ksdmk
ah dont worry too much
their relative its much much worse :3
but u will see it when u get there
swift marsh
...
I dont wan' do this no more
Actually I do, just something else I will see, miss all my primary bullets and dome anyway with the supersniper
coarse lily
What???
swift marsh
There is honestly one thing im wondering. Or quite a lot for that matter
First: Who are we? Why are we there? Who is the company that even runs the complex? What happened? And most importantly of all: What prevented them from just... sending a cleanup squad down with tons of ammo and clean up everything down there
Its not like those things are hard to kill, just bring enough ammo
rose nova
um :]
those r lots of question for lore
there is a document in the pinned messages of #gtfo-lore that like explains it all in details
but well in short we are a bunch of prisoners that an entity know as the warden send us to do shit for em and they dont care a lot if we die cause they have a bunch of other replacements and loosin like 7 tons of ammo per expedition is not good
coarse lily
Actually I do, just something else I will see, miss all my primary bullets and d...
Assuming we talking no headshot and just body shots, rifle and pistol yield the amount of bullet efficiency for striker. Rifle has a range of 25m while pistol has a range of 6m. 25m is basically enough to cover a whole room.
coarse lily
death!
I’m slowly loosing my language comprehension just by trying to figure out what ksdmk mean
mint light
I’m slowly loosing my language comprehension just by trying to figure out what k...
what he told me. random keyboard smash
coarse lily
It’s neither now
rose nova
funks
little ridge
I keep thinking it's a snake beatboxing
swift marsh
Huh. So basically they dug for resources, built a complex to support the operations then basically got overrun by infectced. Cool. Atually good lore
Why does this game somehow do everything right?
rose nova
idk i fkin love this game so much its prob my fav game ever KMSKDMK
its so nice n detailed n GOD I LOVE IT
qwq
swift marsh
I mean its dark, a gigantic underground complex, well detailed, GUNS, some actually unique story, its fucking perfect
Good movement
I mean I have already loved ready or not and god this game just fits into a similiar slot but is a lot more... underground. And god I dig it
rose nova
the guns in this game are like the best ever
i wish more games had gtfo guns qwq i wanted to play gmod with them so bad cause they feel so good the sounds they make r awesome and even the names
the omneco lil easter egg is so fkin cool, such a small detail
but its fits so well
swift marsh
The souunds are dope, the damage honestly just feels a little low on average
But the rest? Goddamn I love it
Also what I mean with the low is: Its a gun, its shoots supersonic metalpieces at you and it just tickles a lot of things. And I cannot forgive the atrocity of making shotguns those superclose ranged no ranged weapons. But everything else? Amazing
normal lake
its like lol but
No one knows what it means the first time is the difference
swift marsh
xnopyt
rose nova
just cause no one has heard it before but im surprised at that tbh everyone ive seen before know it by heart and they even have different styles
yall r just too old :3
rose nova
Also what I mean with the low is: Its a gun, its shoots supersonic metalpieces a...
lmao ksmk have u tried chokemod shotgun
that feels real
:3
swift marsh
Im from fucking 2003, and I have 0 idea what you are talking about
normal lake
2004 here and same
swift marsh
that feels real
Yeash but thats ONE gun, the rest is just... Yippiejajay, its more than 5m and I aint hitting the broadside of a barn
rose nova
u are too old
little ridge
Now I feel REALLY old, thanks guys
swift marsh
Quick, laugh
normal lake
Now I feel REALLY old, thanks guys
Ofc
serene jewel
Whar
rose nova
Yeash but thats ONE gun, the rest is just... Yippiejajay, its more than 5m and I...
ksmdk i mean tbh i dont mind it, guns that have dmg they make themselves know, the nsiper the hel rifle the dmr the high cal those all feels so heavy and powerful even the recoil sucks on most of em like a real weapon KMSDKM
and well automatic can b like not realistic at all but i just hear more of the funny sounds and my brain goes :3
also i guess its necessary for gameplay but thats the obvious so i didnt wanted to say it
swift marsh
Ofc I know why it all is like this but I dislike the thing that guns in games are always treated as weak, especially automatic ones. Sure its good for gameplay reasons, nobody would be entertained if you could just fire a shotgun in the rough vicinity of an enemy and watch it explode or a full auto gun to just waive around the room and nothing in it is alive anymore
In reality however, if you are unarmored and something hits you? You dont stand up, not even if you pain tolerance is like super high (Lets just assume because parasite and so on)
And smgs would probably hit even harder, you know? Most rifles would probably overpen but smgs have juuuust the right amount of power to enter, deform and then wreak havoc.
rose nova
ik like realism concepts and such but tbh i never took any of them into account ksdmk
it annoys me way more in things like half life 2 cause the enemies seem so common, but in gtfo at least its shown how they do damage, their head breakd, their chest blows out, there goes his arm, the meat of both his legs its gone, and the lil fuckin shit its still up
they make it feel like ur weapons are annihilatin em but the fuckers just wont give up
and that makes it just more terrifying for me ksmd
seeing a big shooter like super mangled and with hald a body
its fuckin gruesome
and i cheerish it
swift marsh
True, true. Still, a 4 rouund burst from an assault rifle even when it would be like 9mm should not just... Do nothing on point blank range
pine root
Realism is bad game balance
swift marsh
Perhaps. Perhaps
coarse lily
Now I feel REALLY old, thanks guys
I’m part of the youngin so can’t relate to you
mystic tinsel
seeing a big shooter like super mangled and with hald a body
Tbh, this helps from having the feeling that none of what you're doing is working. Something about tanky enemies in old games always felt frustrating.
serene jewel
Put me in the rundowns and I'll clear it myself
swift marsh
Okay
rose nova
Tbh, this helps from having the feeling that none of what you're doing is workin...
yeah i mean again half life 2 pistol is useless in every single way, but it hits way harder cause u feel it being useless
if u spam a shotgun on a big, u see it like get staggered go backwards and w/o like a leg
and its so badass
swift marsh
Hitting a sniper bodyshot is so amazing honestly, like you see the gigantic fucking hole that is there and you know: I just did that
mystic tinsel
It leads to cool moments like bat/hammer being able to solo stun bigs as well, Revolver popping limbs with each shot..
swift marsh
yeah
mystic tinsel
That second one's easily my favorite, just standing behind them and pop, pop, pop
coarse lily
It leads to cool moments like bat/hammer being able to solo stun bigs as well, R...
I wish I could pop limbs in 1 shot
swift marsh
I wish I could pop limbs in 1 shot
König Supersniper: "Hey."
mystic tinsel
It only works cuz the back damage modifier
rose nova
i like just goin ham with a bat, bots can carry me well with it ksdm
swift marsh
tsjkögb
rose nova
:]
swift marsh
:]
rose nova
i laugh funkily ksdmk
mystic tinsel
Bat is totally viable, I use it all the time
coarse lily
It only works cuz the back damage modifier
Might as well spam 5 shots to the back
swift marsh
Imagine not being a home-depot employee sledgehammering everything
mint light
Now I feel REALLY old, thanks guys
You a youngling m8. You don't know what it is to be old
coarse lily
Bat is totally viable, I use it all the time
Literally soloing giants by tapping the back lol
pine root
Bat is totally viable, I use it all the time
Not if we want to hammer mom 😭
swift marsh
I just see giant, estimate how many are in the room, clear what I can, then headshot and see what comes at me
swift marsh
I want to see it
coarse lily
Not if we want to hammer mom 😭
Hammer dad
mint light
I want to see it
have to make it so far first
swift marsh
have to make it so far first
Trust me. I will
mint light
Trust me. I will
I like your confidence. we will see
swift marsh
I know I will get there
burnt flume
wouldn't have to make it too far if ALT R5 was out but that's a discussion for another time
mystic tinsel
Not if we want to hammer mom 😭
To be fair, I didn't know that was possible up until recently.
I switch to Sledgehammer if there are primarily Chargers, Charger Scouts, and I guess it makes sense for the bosses now.
swift marsh
They may knock me down. But everytime they do so, I find their weakspots. Their behaviours and how I can adapt to them
I dont die. I learn
mystic moss
hammering mom is meta
coarse lily
To be fair, I didn't know that was possible up until recently.
I switch to Sledg...
You can still take a bat and a hi cal to kill charger scouts
coarse lily
hammering mom is meta
Cause of the existence of hel weapons and burst cannon
mint light
wouldn't have to make it too far if ALT R5 was out but that's a discussion for a...
depends of order he plays in
mystic tinsel
You can still take a bat and a hi cal to kill charger scouts
Fully aware of that, but I usually do it for single hit kills on regular chargers, extra range on big chargers, and duo-hitting charger scouts.
mint light
I know I will get there
you going in order? or just take random missions?
mystic moss
Cause of the existence of hel weapons and burst cannon
mfw the real threat isn't the mom, it's getting penn'd
mint light
II start at 1, then clear the campus
Oh in that case you have a couple months to forget about mom
pine root
To be fair, I didn't know that was possible up until recently.
I switch to Sledg...
Don’t worry. You will fall to the dark side
modern coral
Why that? Is mom in r7?
You gonna get hardstuck R2E1
mint light
Why that? Is mom in r7?
Cause I expect R2E1 will take a while
rose nova
we should stop spoilin this poor lad skdmk
mint light
You gonna get hardstuck R2E1
this 👆
mystic moss
hardstuck occurs at r2d2 actually 🤓
modern coral
Tbh if you get stuck you should just start going out of order.
swift marsh
we should stop spoilin this poor lad skdmk
tsjkögb, Ill go get there
pine root
hardstuck occurs at r2d2 actually 🤓
But are we wrong
mystic tinsel
Don’t worry. You will fall to the dark side
I enjoy Bat too much to give it up :p
mint light
we should stop spoilin this poor lad skdmk
It was a slip of the tong from jish. it happens
swift marsh
Nah, I like knowing what I face
pine root
hey I can spoil more on purpose
mint light
hey I can spoil more on purpose
It wasn't against you m8 😅
rose nova
It was a slip of the tong from jish. it happens
nah poor thing has been spoiled before too ksdmk
modern coral
hardstuck occurs at r2d2 actually 🤓
Not wrong.
swift marsh
Makes the risk more obvious. And then Ill kill it and it feels a lot better because I didnt jsut accidentally treat a hard enemy like an easy one just because I didnt see it
burnt flume
Why that? Is mom in r7?
yes, but she was added to the game earlier so have fun living in fear
mint light
Makes the risk more obvious. And then Ill kill it and it feels a lot better beca...
Ray is right tho. when you stuck on R2D2 or R2E1. Just move on, get better, come back to it
boreal yew
And it's not even an official name
swift marsh
Ray is right tho. when you stuck on R2D2 or R2E1. Just move on, get better, come...
You know what? Ill test the last guns, then Ill just skip everything and do that
mint light
You know what? Ill test the last guns, then Ill just skip everything and do that
do what?
swift marsh
Skip to r2e1
mint light
Skip to r2e1
Need to unlock it first m8 😅
mint light
or static?
I think he had a group
swift marsh
You playing pugs or bots?
Normally with friedns. But Ill probably do with bots
modern coral
Omegalul
mint light
Normally with friedns. But Ill probably do with bots
no you wont
swift marsh
Or... Maybe even masochistic and go solo >:)
modern coral
Omegalul x2
mint light
Or... Maybe even masochistic and go solo >:)
it's ok you don't know. But you just ain't
Just go slow with your group. make your way over there. And beat it in 15-20 tries
pine root
@modern coral did you know if you start a rez then someone else rezes with you. Then you stop they finish when you would finish
modern coral
What?
swift marsh
Goddamn I LOVE the normal AR
modern coral
I saw the clip, but I did not know that, no.
swift marsh
Hits like a freight train
mystic moss
<@111990475744944128> did you know if you start a rez then someone else rezes w...
I'm telling you no one knows about it, everyone thinks the shared bars are a visual bug
pine root
Now I believe you
modern coral
Tbf they usually are.
mint light
Now I believe you
it's intended tho
hallow plover
Goddamn I LOVE the normal AR
Personally, the recoil is a bit annoying, it’s slightly too much for me to enjoy it.
pine root
I know it is intended
mint light
I am glad R8 will have 3 A levels.
hallow plover
If I need to pop heads, Carbine or DMR. If I want to just have fun while shooting, Bullpup rifle, since the recoil is nonexistent and it’s fairly good at damage. The sight is a bit underwhelming though
pine root
And 4 b tiers
hallow plover
I am glad R8 will have 3 A levels.
Holy-
mint light
And 4 b tiers
saw only 2
pine root
saw only 2
Data mind there is a scan in the game labeled r8b4 t scan
mint light
Data mind there is a scan in the game labeled r8b4 t scan
So 3 A, 4B. what's left? 1C, 1D and 1E?
pine root
You know it
burnt flume
3 As and 4 Bs? sounds like R5 to me
mint light
Probs no e until r8 extended
Probably yeah
mint light
3 As and 4 Bs? sounds like R5 to me
The 3A's are on the roadmap
burnt flume
no E tier on launch will be a bit of a shame but I guess it is kinda tradition
I know, and the level numbers for total expeditions didn't take into account what was coming in R8 best I could tell
pine root
I will be pretty happy if we get a group of new sleepers
a new basic kind would be so cool
mint light
I know, and the level numbers for total expeditions didn't take into account wha...
Yep otherwise we would know everything. and they don't like it
mystic moss
you're getting another variant
pine root
Just give me more tiles and sleepers
burnt flume
charger hybrid
serene jewel
Charger from left for dead 2
rose nova
nuh
sharp owl
Is it just me or is it normal to get huge frame drops during the deployment section
serene jewel
Normal
rose nova
its normal
serene jewel
Imo
rose nova
its a loadin screen
burnt flume
yeah, because the game is loading in
still oxide
spring falcon
i can help, but i'am brazilian, no english @still oxide
swift marsh
Quick question, what are the Main, secondary, overload and prisoner efficiency stats?
thick hornet
they're a record of the number of times you beat a level and completed those zones (or all of them for PE)
they're the [x,x,x,x] stat below each of the levels in a rundown
swift marsh
Ah okay
coarse lily
Quick question, what are the Main, secondary, overload and prisoner efficiency s...
they are there to boost your ego
swift marsh
Ah. Hey I just noticed one thing
The P90 is actually strong
Its basically a bullpup on steroids. Damagewise and firerate are pretty similiar (Or so it feels) Reload is fast, flashlight is huge, ammo is more, whats the downside?
swift marsh
The smg
modern coral
PDW is p strong, Carbine is top tier, and SMG blows.
swift marsh
The van auken, whatever, the primary in the tutorial
modern coral
I like playing SMG, but no, it sucks.
swift marsh
I mean its nuts
modern coral
its "big" flashlight also has horrid range.
Same for bullpup.
Strongest Mains are generally HEL Revo and Carbine, and then Mains that are pretty good after that are DMR, Rifle, PDW, HEL Shotgun, and Burst Rifle.
thick temple
bullpups flashlight is a bit better
not a huge amount but a bit
thick temple
i hate that it feels so lovely but then you're reloading for 3 business days
thick hornet
love everything about Bullpup, discovered PDW and now I can't live with that reload
analog flicker
PDW range vs Bullpup ranges tho
Which is PDWs biggest weakness
Then again. In terms of beginners. I'll still see a lot of them prefer bullpup initially
swift marsh
I want to get good with the carbine tbh
Btw, wheres the assault rifle located at? Good or average?
coarse lily
Btw, wheres the assault rifle located at? Good or average?
average
swift marsh
But it hits hard, has decent range, recoil is a bit high but it has about everything else
coarse lily
But it hits hard, has decent range, recoil is a bit high but it has about everyt...
Carbine hits harder than AR
reloads faster
more dmg per mag
more total dmg
same range
around the same amount of ammo per refill (17%)
carbine is actually busted within 10m
north yarrow
anyone else ever run r4c3 and not have a second cell in the secondary?
coarse lily
anyone else ever run r4c3 and not have a second cell in the secondary?
list cell 266
if there's a cell cool
no cell then reset
it's a common bug
pine root
This isn’t google
rose nova
how do I make a group chat
u can join an empty server and then post an invite in the LFG channels followin the rules on #how-to-matchmake
:]
serene berry
how do I make a group chat
theres actually a video from a content creator named Ben 10 where he talks about the 34 rules for what you are asking about. go ahead and look it up
storm quartz
Damn he's trying to get you on a list
swift marsh
Okay one thing, the sniper is the literal best secondary in the game and not having at least one on the team is basically throwing, convince me otherwise
rough robin
Which is PDWs biggest weakness
PDW's damage towers over bullpups so honestly it makes up for it, at least for a few extra metres
analog flicker
PDW's damage rivals AR's
analog flicker
AR is managable if you prefer range
but you lose out on the RoF/Smg like functionality
serene berry
Why can wheat say the 34 number
thats the rule's 34th exception
analog flicker
sadly PDW would still out-perform AR
wicked solstice
Idc
You can’t stop me
If the scope throws me off I’m just gonna perform worse with PDW anyways
modern coral
But it hits hard, has decent range, recoil is a bit high but it has about everyt...
RoF is kind of low and its damage is just ok.
swift marsh
True, true. Its nice imo but I see why people pick the carbine over it
wicked solstice
Wait why does PDW have more ammo than AR
analog flicker
Carbine has one of the fastest time-to-kill in the game
swift marsh
Smaller ammo
modern coral
Okay one thing, the sniper is the literal best secondary in the game and not hav...
Most levels don't have enough giants to justify playing it.
swift marsh
Carbine has one of the fastest time-to-kill in the game
Yep, I tried it a few times now and its new, but its amazing
modern coral
And it has poor eco into tanks, you mostly run it for TTK and safety.
Good on reactors and certain missions w/ time pressure.
swift marsh
I mean I basically use it as a big third tool instead of an actual weapon
I wouldnt want more than one on a team but not having one is kinda dumb
modern coral
You really don't need it most of the time.
swift marsh
But what would you rather have?
analog flicker
in the end I find myself using Helpp
modern coral
Again, most levels don't throw that many giants at you.
Choke mod, more wave clear, etc.
sharp siren
But the weapon itself is bad.
no
swift marsh
Bullpup stronk. But slow reload
wicked solstice
Wait AR is worse than PDW in every aspect except precision damage!????
swift marsh
And most others are just stronker
swift marsh
Wait AR is worse than PDW in every aspect except precision damage!????
ye. Pdw gaming
wicked solstice
hello
swift marsh
Hi
sharp siren
Wait AR is worse than PDW in every aspect except precision damage!????
ar does like 2.1 pdw 2.3 kekw
aside from falloff range