gtfo-chat

[wary marlin]

somewhere

[mint light]

Release with Alt R5

[wary marlin]

ye, i know. Became gtfo noob from R5 Extended

this shotgun with 3 bullets in mag...

and r5b4...definitely is not b-tier level

[elfin osprey]

what is a heavy smg?

[wet mica]

Heavy smg is baaaaaad

Hope it gets overhauled

Same with bullpup, so basically never

[elfin osprey]

the gun sound is good

but how is it bad

[thick epoch]

how yall do r2c2?

its hard

[coarse grail]

The first alarm is the hardest part. Try to close some doors and get some sentries shooting at the open passages if thats what you are struggling on. You could have someone go up on the high walkway and shoot if they come from there as its more difficult to shoot them when they are coming down the stairs already

[thick epoch]

yeah teue

true

[eternal canopy]

nice

[elfin osprey]

uhmm

what is wrong with r4e1 secondary?

[vestal crystal]

The scan for secondary after you put in the bulkhead key can take you on the scenic route

[mint light]

Hammer the Error. while doing about your business as usual

For the first alarm, what ellda says.

2nd alarm: shoot.

[little ridge]

You hate hel revolver?

I also hate it but merely because I feel pressured not to miss a shot tbh.

[mint light]

aim better 👍

[last parrot]

i dont feel pressured

because i always hit my shot

[jade iron]

hel revo is too good, but some of these are weird.
the game isn't balanced around boosters, dmr requiring like 3% damage boost to 1tap would be a problem otherwise
the fire rate difference is a 0.2 shot delay vs 0.25, a 0.05s difference
hel revo gets 18 rounds per refill vs dmr's 15.25, the hel revo number should be lowered but it's not 50% more ammo
also dmr's reload cancel is no slouch, cancel is at 1s for hel revo but 1.27s for dmr

if we're talking about ideas of how to nerf hel revo, ammo's obvious, I could see a fire rate nerf as well

[last parrot]

having 100 shots makes tracking bullets easy

[jade iron]

if they could program lower damage on pen hits then scaling hel revo's pen to ~50% would be good, taking the edge off overpen engagements and (together with ammo nerf) emphasizing more marksman play

[wicked solstice]

I mean you could also make it non cancelable

[jade iron]

ew

no

if anything I think they should add a good cancel to bullpup

[gray pilot]

New Backpack

[jade iron]

mains don't survive 2.3+ second reloads very well

[gray pilot]

[last parrot]

i agree

[wicked solstice]

Yeah

Revo has like over 50% of it’s reload cancelable

For a gun that already pens, has decent staggering potential, has deep ammo reserves, idk man

[jade iron]

if you want to gut the gun like they did with burst cannon, then the reload cancel is the way to go, I guess

[wicked solstice]

Idk ab “gut”

[jade iron]

it wouldn't be much better than bullpup with a 2.3s uncancellable reload

it's still a main, with a main-ish amount of impact per clip

unless you're thinking about just removing reload cancels from the game

which would drastically shake up balance

but for hel revo, I'd even reduce the clip size before I touch that cancel

[last parrot]

i dont think it has a 2.3 second reload

[wicked solstice]

yeaaaahh

Oh it does

Interesting

[last parrot]

i swear its like half that

[wicked solstice]

I used it without reload canceling from R6 to ALT R3 so uhhhh

[jade iron]

with the cancel it's probably about half that

[last parrot]

i dont cancel

[wicked solstice]

I say it’d still be usable lol

[jade iron]

number apparently goes up at exactly 1s, so with swap time you're probably around 1.5s

you're not seeing 1.3s of animation, though

if they started removing reload cancels, I'd move off of it, probably onto one of the mains with fast natural reload

at this point that'd be carbine or pdw

or pistol

[little ridge]

rifle

rifle has good reload time too imho

even if I didnt pick it in ages because I'm stuck at R4E1

[jade iron]

but also hel revo is probably my favourite gun at this point, so I'd be pretty down on the game after that

hell I'd give up pen before that cancel

but I think hitting ammo, fire rate, clip size, and if possible imposing damage scaling on pen, surely has to be enough

[junior latch]

it would still be far better, it would be heavy nerf for uptime. But the base stats of hel revo >>>> bullpup

[jade iron]

you're still talking about the reload time of a special for a gun with impact per clip that's in the upper end of main territory

like, you can get a veruta reload faster than that

[wicked solstice]

Yeah, so maybe that impact needs to be spread out more if it’s in the upper end of main

Honestly I think hel revo is one of, if not the best main right now

[jade iron]

so nerf the shooting characteristics of the gun itself

[wicked solstice]

Excluding Hel shotgun bc thats shit should be on special

[wicked solstice]

Nah, make it so it has less uptime so you don’t destroy the gun’s identity as a whole

I like the current way hel revo behaves

[jade iron]

there are ways to nerf the impact of the gun without destroying its identity

[wicked solstice]

yeah I think all of the way’s that you proposed, no offense, kind of erode what Hel revo is

The clip nerf especially

[jade iron]

lol, the model has a clip size of 6

and you still get a lot done with 6 hel revo rounds

but it's on the extreme end

I still think people overrate the pen, and underrate the weakness against shooters

[fair escarp]

Clearly you haven't think it through

[jade iron]

and the more egregious thing is it just gets too much ammo

[junior latch]

reduce ammo -> why does it have more efficency than dmr lol

[jade iron]

?

[fair escarp]

You will not be getting constant pen with the gun. Reduce the number of shot by 2 and you are looking at a gun that will need to put a lot more effort just to reach the avg performance of other guns

The only things that can be touch on the gun are stagger, recoil and total ammo it has.

Nerf in dmg changes the gun completly

[jade iron]

I didn't ask for a damage nerf, nor do I think it'd be a good idea

[jade iron]

I think this applies even more for taking away the cancel

[fair escarp]

2 things can't be touch for hel rev. Dmg and number of shot before reload

If you touch that the gun kinda becomes a gun that will do avg but need twice the effort compare to other guns

They already touched the pen and recoil in r6

[little ridge]

T-They touched t-the p-pen?

[fair escarp]

Used to be pen 5

Which was busted as fuck

I know

But still worth saying :)

[little ridge]

👍

[fair escarp]

Instead of nerfing hel rev, they should just buff the other primaries that just can't compete

[jade iron]

at the very least I think they should cut down on hel revo's ammo

but maybe we're in legacy timeline now and they should just lift the other guns

[fair escarp]

Just buff dmr ammo instead to make it compete with hel rev

That's pretty much all dmr needs to compete with hel rev

Go for 110 backup ammo or something

Since the gun doesn't get pen but can save shots on shooters

[jade iron]

if they just took away hel revo's cancel (i.e. no broader removal of cancels) I would just move over to dmr, yeah

[wicked solstice]

No please

[jade iron]

like, I was using dmr before moving over to hel revo, that gun does 90% the same thing

[fair escarp]

If guns are nerfed into the ground to a point where they aren't fun to use then people will just quit

[jade iron]

I just like how hel revo handles more tbh

[wicked solstice]

I’m not saying nerf hel revo into the ground

I very much dislike how much BC was gutted this patch

[jade iron]

forcing natural reload for hel revo would nerf it into the ground

[wicked solstice]

I don’t think that’s true at all

[jade iron]

you need a very large amount of impact to justify a reload north of 2s

[gray pilot]

new backpack

[wicked solstice]

Especially as somebody who used it with said natural reload for an incredibly long time

[fair escarp]

It would affect solo defending a lot for the gun

[wicked solstice]

new backpack

[jade iron]

then would it even do much for the kinds of things you do with it?

like, if you're 4manning and have a lot of downtime for reloads, then maybe reloads don't matter at all

and in that context, removing the cancel might not even nerf the gun

you just have an OP main for the time that the clip lasts, which is maybe all of an engagement

meanwhile someone who's soloing or duoing a scan stops having a main halfway through a wave

[fair escarp]

You don't need to attack low man team with nerf. They already have it harder :)

[wicked solstice]

No, it wouldn’t affect me at all. My point is that a lot of people seem to be taking reload cancel for granted when I’m pretty sure it wasn’t even an intended feature

[fair escarp]

Do we get this discussion again?

Every damn shooting game have reload cancel

[jade iron]

reload cancels are pretty ingrained in how experienced players play at this point, it'd be a big change to remove them

[burnt flume]

destiny 2 sends its regards

[jade iron]

and if you removed them you're probably buying yourself a lot of balance headaches

[burnt flume]

and by removing reload cancels, you're removing depth from the game which is never a good idea

having something to aspire to learn, something new to pick up, more tech to put into your belt, never a bad thing

[jade iron]

unless the devs seriously think 3s reload pump shotgun is the right balance, in which case we're just not talking about the same game as the devs at all

[jade iron]

so you think hel revo is busted, but simultaneously think how you use hel revo isn't?

[wicked solstice]

yes

exactly

[fair escarp]

Reload cancel being removed would litterally just be a nerf to low man teams too. It doesn't donanything for 4 man teams

[wicked solstice]

I think shaving off half of the intended reload is in fact, a little busted

[fair escarp]

Go play duo

[jade iron]

then how do you form the perspective that gun busted?

[gray pilot]

they should make a gun that can one shot sleepers in one bullet and let you toggle fire mode to something like a burst mode to 1 burst big enemies

[wicked solstice]

Watching people solo hold alarms with it, mainly using reload cancels

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[jade iron]

sounds a little weak ngl

[burnt flume]

I think the sentiment is that Hel revo is insane when you reload cancel because it gets amazing uptime, but when it doesn't have that uptime it's just there

[fair escarp]

Those are people who puts a lot of time into the game.

[gray pilot]

they could call it something like spray cannon

[jade iron]

people would just solo hold with dmr or whatever, the output is comparable

[burnt flume]

but yeah no please don't touch reload cancelling, it's a tech you can learn to improve at the game and I don't think any aspiration should be removed

[wicked solstice]

I can reload cancel with like 2 minutes of practice my dude

[fair escarp]

Go solo hold in duos then of it os that easy

Go on send us videos too

[burnt flume]

I think there's a mod out there that gives you an audio cue for reload cancelling, which, well... not sure why you'd need that but

it's out there, I guess

[wicked solstice]

Not talking ab holding, talking ab the canceling

[fair escarp]

You specifically said. "Seeing people solo hold using reload cancel"

Don't run away from your words now

[wicked solstice]

I’m not?

[burnt flume]

ignore SGX

[jade iron]

okay, but you think the amount of output generated by mains in 4man is fine right now?

[wicked solstice]

Ok

[jade iron]

like, why just specifically nerf low-man?

[burnt flume]

I think the point he was trying to make was
"well if reload cancelling is so busted and lets you solo hold, why don't you do it"

[gray pilot]

alright friends lets calm down a bit and not get off topic

new backpack

[fair escarp]

Yes because then he would realise that solo holding isn't about reload cancel

[burnt flume]

I have a backpack in my closet i don't think I need to go and buy a new one sir

[wicked solstice]

rate it from 1-10 honda civics

[gray pilot]

🍌

[wicked solstice]

true true, I agree with your statement

[jade iron]

making the reloads worse doesn't suddenly make 4mans difficult enough to satisfy experienced players, it just creates really disjointed gameplay that makes you need to have some extras standing around while you reload

[burnt flume]

mfw they add more realism to my sci-fi horror co-op shooter

[jade iron]

sway feature

[burnt flume]

HAR recoil

I make it no secret I'm not a big fan of the throw your hands in the air hel revo recoil

it doesn't do anything, you still shoot straight

[fair escarp]

What you would prefer curving bullets :p

[jade iron]

yeah hitting recoil doesn't have a great track record in gtfo

just hit the actual output of the gun

[fair escarp]

It worked for the r6 omni recoil touch

But individual recoil touch just hasnt been done right

[unreal crystal]

I think all my guns should fly into the ceiling when I shoot them

[jade iron]

feature

[unreal crystal]

And my reloads should take twice as long because my character is really nervous and afraid of the enemies running at him in a straight line

[jade iron]

much easier to check upwards after each shot

[burnt flume]

I think my character should develop chronic shoulder pain from shooting guns so much

then they add drug stores as a new tile exclusively found in side zones so you can get painkillers to help with chronic pain

[unreal crystal]

I play as woods so he’s really good at shooting cause he’s American

[burnt flume]

why did they remove the suggestions channel, I feel like people would love this idea

[fair escarp]

Because they are done with actual features

And before people say :did they ever used something from that channel?

• it's where single bio ping was lol

[burnt flume]

we will never see ration packs or chimps in the complex

[gray pilot]

no captain america shield to surf on the enemies

i still have faith in the hel machinegun for r5 alt tho

[burnt flume]

why weren't there any music venues in the complex, I wonder

surely people like to relax and enjoy music and people would put together tribute bands

there should be music venues within the complex where you can throw a concert for sleepers

[fair escarp]

Don't forget the militray vehicule that shows up out of nowhere to extract you at the end

[burnt flume]

and the one sleeper in a mechanic hat trying to punch the terminal with audio buffer to fix it for his friends

[unreal crystal]

Literally unplayable game

when do I get my flamethrower

[fair escarp]

When do we get the real hammers back

[unreal crystal]

Never

They’re lost to the past

[fair escarp]

Truly a sad state of affair

[jade iron]

https://www.reddit.com/r/GTFO/comments/1350qkc/comment/jj2aoh2/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little

if dinorush is right about the actual natural reload of hel revo, then 🤮

for reference, that's roughly a tenth of a second off the reload time of hel shotgun, which is a special slotted in main

[mystic moss]

what if we gave hel revo a charge-up time like the r8 revolver from csgo 😈

[unreal crystal]

shut up pub

[mystic moss]

could you please refrain from using the p-slur? i prefer to be referred to as "lfg-er"

[unreal crystal]

ok lfg-er

stop typing lfg-er

[meager olive]

💀

[livid gulch]

lfg-er

couldn't be me

[ashen ether]

damn, bots couldn't be worse

I believe it's physically bloody impossible

why is it so hard for them to stand in circle when extracting

it isn't that hard, they appear capable of recognising circles all the other times

[last parrot]

they used to be able to wake up enemies

[rose nova]

i very much think they could be worse but yeah they just dont idk why

[junior latch]

?

[last parrot]

bots could get worse

[rose nova]

they didnt

i dont think so at least

[last parrot]

oh god am i wrong

[ashen ether]

but I fuck r1b2 up second time in a row not because I fucked up, but because bots just freeze a few centimeters away from extract circle

[serene berry]

yes

[junior latch]

scan will be a bit slower without them in

but it rly shouldnt matter

[rose nova]

as long as u are in the circle itll keep extracting

just put down sentries and try to hold on as much as possibe

[last parrot]

i got my source from somebody else

[rose nova]

even if u have a medpack u can just use it while u run in circles

[last parrot]

ill be back

[ashen ether]

I would better not try this the third time

[serene berry]

what level?

[junior latch]

R1B2

appearantly

[ashen ether]

yup

[serene berry]

ahh yes, that is a triple sentry level btw

[pine root]

Every level is triple sentry

😭

[rose nova]

my mines disagree

[junior latch]

@pine root r3a2 triple mine deployer

trust

[ashen ether]

except when it isn't. Mines are great

[junior latch]

mines are worth jackshit on most of r1

[rose nova]

for this level?

there arent a lot of doors

to like

mine

[last parrot]

r1b2 is take whatever you want

[rose nova]

i think only one

[ashen ether]

not for b2, yes, but for some of levels in general

[rose nova]

ah yeah

then yeah

yeah

i like mines

:3

[analog flicker]

4 bios

meta

[pine root]

If you take 3 sentries the only thing you Do do well is blood doors

[ashen ether]

r1b2 is for the love of god don't take bots

[analog flicker]

???

[junior latch]

eh the bots can solo that mission

[pine root]

Blood doors are mine checks and most of the time they give you explosive mines

[junior latch]

without a player shooting

[rose nova]

me only playin with bots

all missions

[last parrot]

theyre actually fine for the expedition

ive done it several times ezpz

[rose nova]

thank u pro player

[last parrot]

c2 is different

[rose nova]

for u pro

um

[junior latch]

tbf if you see more than 5 enemies in any alarm until the 3rd one, thats on tool setup being oof

[analog flicker]

I was like. R1B2 aint got shit like dual uplink shit going on

[rose nova]

idk

pro players cleanin r1 levels, right

[last parrot]

was it r6 beta?

i swear ive heard 3 or so people tell me bots at one point could wake up the sleepers

[ashen ether]

how about final alarm, extraction?

[analog flicker]

reliable people?

trustworthy?

[junior latch]

final alarm, youve got nearly unlimited ammo. Shoot with the bots and have minimal setup. Enemys take ages to reach you

for extract, run/walk and shoot

then place sentries

[ashen ether]

I lack aim speed to headshot all biters, and bots are just kinda missing both enemies and the extract circle

[last parrot]

they were in look for group

[analog flicker]

so randoms

[junior latch]

then bodyshot

bots dont rly miss unless you give em wacky guns

[rose nova]

yeah give em long range automatic weapons

they work really well with those

[pine root]

All lfg players lie to you maliciously

[rose nova]

so machinegun assault rifle burst rifle

[analog flicker]

looks at my R6 runs where I gave my bot sawed off and scattergun

[rose nova]

those

[last parrot]

i might be totally making this up

[analog flicker]

someone said someone told him you could scroll the chat

also in the terminal

[pine root]

Lol

[analog flicker]

me and other 2 dudes were like "Bro you were lied to"

I still say tho Jish

[pine root]

My favourite for long range explanations. Sleepers are a 1 or a 2 if they are a two they will wake up in long range upon hiting one

[analog flicker]

Go loud after 10

[pine root]

I got noise complaints

[analog flicker]

apartments or smth?

[pine root]

Basement someone lives right above me

Very very light sleeper

[analog flicker]

rip

[pine root]

My talking wakes them up

[sharp siren]

false

they used to go to kill scouts

[fair escarp]

less worst then a roommate i had during university

[sharp siren]

but you had to be super close to the scout

but at that point you might as well kill him yourself

during testing bots where actually better at doing scans

[pine root]

What happened bro

[sharp siren]

you would have 1 bot always doing scans regardless if your standing on them or not

and the other one following your or your partner

[fair escarp]

had a roommate who would wake up to a controller button sound through 2 walls

[sharp siren]

they change that at release for no reason

[fair escarp]

and would instantly become angry

[analog flicker]

reminds me of when all bots would prioritize your revive

[pine root]

L he hates gamers

Based

[analog flicker]

america?

[pine root]

Canada pst

[analog flicker]

I only know America's walls are thin af

(don't even mention Japans)

[pine root]

Ours are to but it be the ceiling being thin

[light tusk]

hey, is anyone else having trouble joining their friends after the patch notes?

[pine root]

You all need to have downloaded the patch

[light tusk]

when we send steam invite and accept nothing happens

[pine root]

Other than that there shouldn’t be an issue

[light tusk]

where can I check if I have it downloaded?

new to pc gaming....

[pine root]

Version I’d but you probably have it down loaded

Just all reset your games should probably work

[fair escarp]

properties -> updates

you will get the info of the buildID

and last updated

[light tusk]

ahh thank you

it says last updated april 28th

[fair escarp]

there is a patch today that was released

[rose nova]

yeah u need to update

[light tusk]

updating now thank you!

[abstract jungle]

how kick player

[fair escarp]

no way

create a new lobby

[pine root]

Uses their ip crash their internet

Only way not invasive

[last parrot]

not invasive

[sharp owl]

всем привет

hello

[restive geyser]

just dont cheat

[abstract jungle]

great idea

[pine root]

Thank you I am full of them

[rose nova]

hello
just in case you are interested, there is a russian server
#hc-europe message

[sharp owl]

thx

[untold ravine]

Could also use the revision number that's in the lower right corner in the game, latest patch is 32709

[fair escarp]

doesn't give you the last time you updated your game though

you also get the appID if you wish to search for older build of a game on SteamDB 🙂

[rose nova]

damn

[thick temple]

<@&408548765599793173>

[autumn bobcat]

On it thanks

[thick temple]

Thank you for your service!

[burnt flume]

What did I miss

I looked away for 5 minutes

[sour umbra]

question, excuse me, whats the way usually guys make a match in discord? lobby code or make a voice chat in discord?

[rose nova]

both :]
normally people go to the LFG channels, they join the VC people are on, ask if they can join the lobby and then go into the lobby with the code

of course all this if its a level they wanna do and all that stuff

[sour umbra]

thx for reply👍

[rose nova]

its oke
if u are gonna use the LFG channels, just some advice!
ask to not be carried, and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur vc

[stark imp]

Joining voice channels that have people in them without doing so from an invite posted on the lfg text channels is prohibited by the server rules.

[sour umbra]

ok, got it.

[rose nova]

exactly

we should shame those people :D /lh

[pine root]

We do

never have I bullied people more

[thick temple]

Someone posted a disc inv 3 times

[pine root]

Than rule 7 breakers

[stark imp]

Ah, the wording of your message that I replied to indicated that you were not aware of the rule and were suggesting a person to "join the VC people are on, ask if they can join the lobby". Apologies for the ping.

[rose nova]

ah nah its oke

i just have bad wordin all around

:3

[rose nova]

3 times he hehe hehe hehehehehe hehe hehe

he

[stark imp]

Which magazine pocket layout does the new FOMO backpack use?

[sour umbra]

I think I got how to make a group, thx for u guys help

[rose nova]

yeah
theres also some info about it on #how-to-matchmake so good luck findin people n hope u have good runs :D

[sour umbra]

the only thing I worried is that Im not good at En, 🤣🤣afraid to match

[rose nova]

nahh its fine ksks i have bad english too
also im sure u can find the lingo u talk in the channel of its region, and apart from all this there is a quick chat if u press Q in game :D

so u got options!

[slow halo]

Привет ищу команду для прохождения нас 2 человек.

[rose nova]

#hc-europe message

[autumn bobcat]

[burnt flume]

I was in an altercation with one earlier this evening

It was a funny experience

[rough robin]

Why don't they just call the Arbalist the Heavy Machine Gun and the Veruta the Light Machine Gun

'Machine Gun (Low RPM)' doesn't exactly roll off the tongue as well

[velvet atlas]

greetings

[pine root]

Best gtfo chat take in so long

[rough robin]

thank you when can I pick up my award

[edgy matrix]

i just call it the bad machinegun and the good one

[pine root]

@ the mods and Adims and claim bc 69 access

[tardy dawn]

When will they fix the bug where the C-foam through the door?

[storm quartz]

Never hopefully, c-foam users stay losing

[lofty jacinth]

based

[trail topaz]

They took the extra arms away from the torso

literally 1984

[obtuse depot]

hola hay alguien que hable espanol y que sea un poco nuevo en esto como yo ?

[rose nova]

wenai, um hay un server en español, esta en #hc-latin-america, y tambien hay un canal para encontrar gente de latam aqui mismo, #lfg-latin-america

[obtuse depot]

gracias mi loco te quiero

[rose nova]

ta bn carnal wena suerte

[obtuse depot]

gracias buen dia

[sharp siren]

Badger not trying to smell his own farts challenge [IMPOSSIBLE]

[green rivet]

bad video, i think vox did it better

[analog flicker]

Using guns with fast reloads.

Smh

[vestal crystal]

holy shit coz was right

[vivid panther]

whats the shortest and easiest rundown level to play?

I am traveling and I can only play gtfo though utterly scuffed means

[jaunty pollen]

G T F O

[vivid panther]

but I also want the cosmetic lol

[jaunty pollen]

god tuck furry oh!

[coarse grail]

R7A1

[vivid panther]

That is soo long tho

[jaunty pollen]

[g]od [t]uck [f]urry [o]h!

[vivid panther]

isn't R2 A1 quite short?

or R1A1

[jaunty pollen]

her no join room

you goimg

ifg northe ameica

[coarse grail]

R1A1 is harder than R7A1

[jaunty pollen]

https://discord.gg/gtfo

her

join room

[coarse grail]

You might be able to do some other A levels quicker than R7A1 but most people agree R7A1 is the easiest

[wary marlin]

ok...now mods...did you know what mod, which set boosters on max value, prevents usage of them? its not only not intended, but equals cheats as well

wtf with this infinity provisions and regen caps?

[junior latch]

... uh o.O
wha. I mean its definetly longer than say r1a1, but thats because it adds a lot of unneeded teamscans and stuff to wait for. Its super short tho

R1A1 is for sure the quickest tho

[vivid panther]

ty

[elfin osprey]

r7a1 is the easiest, r1a1 is the shortest because there arent any stupid scan to give information about gtfo lore compare to r7a1

if u want to know who is the imposter, do r7a1

u would know more about the man

that try to kill u in r7e1, r7d2, r7c3

[modern verge]

Is this genuinely some lore I'm confused about or are you just telling me he's incompetent

[wispy bluff]

The latter. Schaeffer doesn't actively trying to kill us, but his shenanigans keep getting us in trouble. Which is expected... Such as the price of the revolution.

[modern verge]

Yea I figured

But I still love him for it because he's goofy

[latent abyss]

всем привет

[modern verge]

What

[latent abyss]

Ищу тиму для совместной игры
Критерии набора

1. часы не важно ( меня 4 часа)
2. возраст от 25 ( мне 26/ адекват)
3. играю в основном вечером
4. время МСК

можете сразу в ДС в друзья добавляться

[coarse grail]

#hc-europe

[manic jackal]

.

[signal plaza]

do tank tumors count as precision?

[analog flicker]

Yes

Otherwise.

Sniper wouldn't be able to one shot its tumors

[elfin osprey]

i would prefer to call it killing the team montage

[signal plaza]

how does bodypart damage work? if a sniper does for instance
40 damage
x3 tank precision multiplier
x3 (+200%) sniper precision multiplier
= 9x40=360 damage

does it get capped at the hp of a tumor? or does it “overkill” the tumor and damage the total tank hp (like how a sniper can only damage the head bodypart of a giant and still kill it)

because 360 damage is a three shot to a tank

[coarse grail]

it is capped

[rose nova]

it gets capped by the tumor, its a lot of overkill wasted

[signal plaza]

and my sniper sure doesn’t three shot a tank

[rose nova]

thats why sniper is nice for doin it but usually u will see burst cannon mentioned more as efficient

[signal plaza]

fair point

burst cannon just seems so inefficient for tanks since usually you only see part of the back and not a clean shot for the whole back

and hitting 2/5 shots isn’t a great result

seriously considering choke mod

[rose nova]

part of the back? i guess u mean like its at the side?

[signal plaza]

yeah

[rose nova]

um if ur playin with people, a good strat is havin one person in both sides

[coarse grail]

I quite like choke mod for killing bosses, its pretty comfy

[rose nova]

one person shoots, grabs the aggro, tank faces that person and u shoot it

and then it happesn again and again until its death

and if u have 2 more people it becomes just easier

[signal plaza]

someone can get his aggro from behind but by the time you peek out and have your burst charged it just turns around

feels like an almost perfect room is needed for it to work well

[rose nova]

i guess it is very dependant on the tile cause if u got no place to hide around the dude it just becomes hard

but yeah then chokemod is gonna b slower but u can shoot it way faster so

[signal plaza]

we usually fight them in good tiles, but he can also get softstuck in some shitty hallway

[rose nova]

or well even the fact that sniper is less efficient doesnt mean u can use it ksks

maybe even somethin like a hel gun to spam it

[signal plaza]

ehhh I wanna be efficient here

I don’t wanna have to use boosters to complete e1

[junior latch]

r7e1?

[rose nova]

mh fairs fair yeah
but ell anythin that really just can be shoot from afar apart from like precision rifle could work, cause most guns with range have like 30+ dmg except hel gun but 2 shots of helgun is 30 and u can spam it so

[signal plaza]

r4

[junior latch]

ah

[rose nova]

i would guess r4e1

ah

hehe

woops

[signal plaza]

yeah r7e1 tile with double tank is ez as shit

[junior latch]

eh, 1 sniper isnt gonna fuck over the efficiency

if your team is good 2 choke mods or even normal shotguns can kill a tank pretty quick

[signal plaza]

I think we were using one veruta one burst one sniper and one choke mod

[junior latch]

in that case sniper should kill the tank in like 10-15 seconds

and you move on

[signal plaza]

but the tank AI felt way more defensive than on other levels

[junior latch]

its at most 1 refill you safe with choke over sniper killing tank and thats if choke does it well and nobdoy wastes dmg

[signal plaza]

it was just beyblading without everyone shining flashlights or getting aggro

[junior latch]

it does that quite often

tho flashlights ?

huh

whats that supposed to do

[signal plaza]

yeah might just be some wild story someone tried to force on me

someone said flashlight draws aggro from tank AI

[fair escarp]

It's your positioning the issue

[signal plaza]

which tbf it does feel like flashlight draws pablo AI

[fair escarp]

Tank and mom react to your positionning

[signal plaza]

and pablo has same AI as tank I’m assuming

[fair escarp]

On different ways

[junior latch]

line of sight

[signal plaza]

like how shooter bullets used to miss if you just didn’t look at them?

[junior latch]

More like how say mom cant birth unless she actively sees you

[signal plaza]

that’s common knowledge but tank AI remains a mystery to me

I know it starts sprinting if you go too far away

and I know it tries to keep its distance

[fair escarp]

Shoot at him while other avoid his line of sight, he will aggro to the guy shooting

[signal plaza]

and we know how to get aggro with shots

yeah

[fair escarp]

Proximity + Line of sight

[signal plaza]

but he just seems to run to the shittiest parts of tiles even when we’re on the other side of one

[fair escarp]

And after that dmg

If enough dmg is done, it Will take priority

[signal plaza]

like in 457 he just runs to that upper tunnel to the south

and stays there

even though we’re north east

[fair escarp]

That is just AI being dumb since r6 and getting stuck

[signal plaza]

and it gets stuck and rubberbandy on stairs

licks straight through semi transparent objects

[fair escarp]

You just gotta bait him out

[signal plaza]

mhm

[fair escarp]

And go to a door and shut it so the AI goes agressive

[signal plaza]

fair

there’s no usable door in that particular tile tho

[fair escarp]

There is

[signal plaza]

since you need it more for the s1

[fair escarp]

You dont need any doors in this version of e1

[signal plaza]

most of it is funnelling but the whole point of asking about this tank ai is because we wanna save as much ammo as possible

we get past tank error consistently

but we choke after because no ammo

[fair escarp]

You have enough ammo for 7 tanks

[junior latch]

you dont have to have him break it

[fair escarp]

Maybe even 8 with 4 players

[signal plaza]

yeah we do when he’s not beyblading

[rose nova]

tank fidget spinner

[signal plaza]

we usually wait to get clear shots but after 2 minutes of trying to get him to actually aggro on one of us instead of licking everyone at the same time, we’re kinda in a hurry

sometimes it’s super predictable other times it’s just all over the place

[fair escarp]

How about just rushing him with 4 players

And he dies under 10 second

[signal plaza]

it works but using cover sounds like a more solid strat ngl

we’re just gonna try 3 choke mods and an mg

see if that works

[fair escarp]

Taking to long just for another tank to spawn mid alarms will result in a failure

[sharp siren]

why not just use sniper

he dies in like 6 shots

• the other 3 people shooting

[ivory pier]

7 !!

[signal plaza]

we had 4-5 I believe before we turned off alarm

[ivory pier]

sorry the other 3 shot the same bubbles

[signal plaza]

1 in first zone, 1 in second, 1 in third, 2 in fourth

[signal plaza]

😭

[elfin osprey]

the only reason i thinks sniper bad for tank is u have 0 quick scope aming skill like me

if u dont have that problem then go for sniper

[signal plaza]

just feels like a waste of ammo

but yeah

will do

[sharp siren]

you dont need to quickscope?

just aim at the bubble lmao

[elfin osprey]

0 aiming will make sniper have no ammo efficency

i cant aim=((

[sharp siren]

[signal plaza]

just find some crouch height cover

[ivory pier]

you can also be evil and use 7 mines

[fair escarp]

How 2 in 4th zone?

[elfin osprey]

i miss so much that i would prefer to kill other and just make the tank punch me

[signal plaza]

that’s the blue tile with the e1 room

[fair escarp]

4th zone is generator zone

[signal plaza]

r2e1

oh

[elfin osprey]

i am the holy tank's punching bag

[signal plaza]

then it’s 3 in third zone

but one of them was while we were split up for gen room

we stalled it until we got the gens in

[fair escarp]

That is a lot of tanks in that zone ngl

[signal plaza]

yeah cus the tanks would get stuck in the upper tunnel

but we couldn’t do the s1 until we killed them

[fair escarp]

Huh upper tunnel is zone 2

[signal plaza]

nah I mean

like

that side tunnel in the tile of the first surge in r2e1

to the right

when you drop in

on r2e1

[sharp siren]

you mean the one with the staircase that leads up into the bridge

[signal plaza]

nono

third zone

[fair escarp]

Noni know the tile is talking about now

[signal plaza]

blue zone

okok lemme see

[fair escarp]

But again, you can just pincer him

2 on each side

[sharp siren]

oh hes talking about the second alarm tunnel?

[fair escarp]

No third zone.

Remember the tile just before s3 in og

That tile

[sharp siren]

middle tunnel leading into ladder

[signal plaza]

I can’t share media here

one sec

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/585063132553281556/1105870872364978216/IMG_9222.png

[fair escarp]

Just leave that Room and go close a door between you and him

[signal plaza]

that’s before generator zone

okok

will try

also how does one mine a tank now (not asking for e1 but I noticed my old mines weren’t working when playing c1 and c3)

[fair escarp]

Once he bangs on door you just open it and AI kinda just stands There for a second

[sharp siren]

You place them to hit the bubbles, and you just stack the mines on top of eachother

he runs by and kaboom

dead

[signal plaza]

alright bc mining above a sec door didn’t work

he just charged out completely dodging the mines bc of the delay

on both occasions

[sharp siren]

good : )

[signal plaza]

yeah I remember doing that back in r4

[sharp siren]

[signal plaza]

mining the c1 dad

but naahh

he was like

shi i’m outta here

[novel crest]

I am looking for Turkish speaking playmates - türkçe konuşan oyun arkadaşları arıyorum

[rose nova]

there is a turkish server in #hc-europe if you are interested

[novel crest]

thank you 🙂

[elfin osprey]

1 question

does anyone know how many scout are there in the last room in r4e1

i have just watch a video of og about it and oh god

that is a mess up ammount of scout

[mystic moss]

alt r4e1 only has 2 now

[elfin osprey]

do they really nerf that

also, can i request 1 alt r4e1 carried game?

[rose nova]

no >:]

[elfin osprey]

that level is 10 time more annoying+ not enjoyable

[elfin osprey]

i rly need it now

[rose nova]

nope >:D

[elfin osprey]

cant get through 3rd surge

and we are having not enough players situation again

[burnt flume]

the 3rd surge in r4e1?

[modern coral]

3rd alarm, which is a surge, I assume.

[burnt flume]

yea that's what im thinking too

[sharp siren]

Wow they really nerf that

Can i get carried

Wut

[sharp siren]

Og wasnt a surge

[modern coral]

No, it was.

[sharp siren]

Not like it matter since

Well

You funnel trough small door

[modern coral]

It had a weird surge composition, but it was a surge.

Yeah, you had ladder funnel.

[wary marlin]

what is harder: old r4e1 or alt r4e1?

[burnt flume]

I'd say original was harder

felt like there were more enemies and the alarms were nastier, more shadow scouts, etc

[modern coral]

More enemies is definitely a big thing.

Rooms in OG could get gnarly.

[wary marlin]

after completion of alt r4, i can say, that i felt old r5 harder

and this r5b4...

[sharp siren]

they both kinda on par

alt does buff a lot of areas

but og have density bug wich its fucked

[modern coral]

Stop saying density bug

[sharp siren]

but you have so many easy funnels its not even funnt

[modern coral]

There are less enemies

[sharp siren]

what are you gonna do

kiss me non-platonically

uh

[modern coral]

Sure.

Haha, jk

[pine root]

It is a bug just like sentry back dmg

[modern coral]

Unless 😳 👉 👈

[pine root]

*Fixed bug where players could sprint

[burnt flume]

you underestimate what can be done platonically

[unreal crystal]

gonna platonically block blackdragon on steam

[sharp siren]

Break my heart

[sharp owl]

Will there be an alt rundown 7 or will the rundown 7 that currently exist stay the same in the future?

[wicked solstice]

No idea

[thick temple]

presumably r7 is gonna stay

unless we have both r7 and alt r7

cause otherwise they'd be deleting og r7

[sharp owl]

will be confusing for some new players seeing all of the rundowns being called ALT then R7 just being R7

[burnt flume]

I think the plan was ALT R1-6, we already have R7, then we get R8

[modern coral]

Their infographic suggests R6 will be the last Alt.

[thick temple]

oh new players have been confused as to why the not-yet-rereleased rundowns aren't available yet

they think they have to unlock them

[wicked solstice]

honestly hope they have a patch where they do a passover on R7

[thick temple]

so new players being confused is nothing new

[modern coral]

R7D1 has no flaws

[wicked solstice]

Like where AlT R7 patch would be is just a massive bugfix patch

[modern coral]

It's the perfect level.

[sharp owl]

ughhh gotta wait 2 months until another rundown sadly 😦

[burnt flume]

ALT r7 is the game resetting completions so Jish has to get their 100 r7d2 clears again

or however many it was

[thick temple]

r7d1 is just a lot going on with a big level

[fair escarp]

map is smaller then r4c2

[modern coral]

It's a big level with not a lot going on, though.

[valid marten]

It's annoying when you get the snatcher bug in R7D1 where only one of them spawns, still waiting for devs to patch it so it's always 4 of them

[thick temple]

oh yeah, worst bug, literally unplayable

[wicked solstice]

At this point I honest cannot tell if you are joking

Because some people think 4 is intended

but yeah I hope we get a bug pass, especially hoping for bots to get a tune up

[sharp owl]

so is it once you have beat all the rundowns, you cant get anymore cosmetics?

[modern coral]

It's intentional, it does a prng calculation using the client's internet connection.

[thick temple]

if you've beaten every level there are no more cosmetics for you to get

yet

[sharp owl]

bummer

no reason to grind

[wicked solstice]

i feel like they might just not release new cosmetics with ALT R6 intentionally

[thick temple]

oh right
r6

[wicked solstice]

to bring new players in line with R6 vets

[thick temple]

so
guess i'm wrong

[sharp owl]

nah i hope r5 and r6 will have them

[thick temple]

r5 prob will

but i wouldn't be shocked if r6 didn't

[sharp owl]

why not r6?

[thick temple]

cause r6 has cosmetics in the pool already from og release

[valid marten]

When you said tune up do you mean in terms of stealth/combat or just fixing their buggy behaviour in general?

[last parrot]

i remember calle said something about it not being necessary for people to have every cosmetic endgame

[sharp owl]

ohhh

[wicked solstice]

both

there have been bugs that have significantly affected even 1 bot teams

especially a particularly nasty one in ALT R1 where bots can no longer pick up heavy items in combat

[valid marten]

Yea r7e1 with bots is kinda aids

[junior latch]

new players being confused on how to drop the item they picked up with e

[thick temple]

don't you literally get a prompt for hold e to drop

[valid marten]

I was wondering why R7B3 PE seemed so much harder with bots compared to when I first did it, now I know finally 🤡

[junior latch]

only if you hold e

[thick temple]

mm

[wicked solstice]

R7B3? try R7C2

I got so close to beating that with bots

and then that patch came and I can no longer 😔

[neon spoke]

is the carbine still one of the best main weapons to default to for a normal blind playthrough? or did the nerf make something else much better?

[valid marten]

Was the hard bit mainly cell carrying after alarms? In overload it was quite handy to send to bot in to retrieve cell

[wicked solstice]

yeah, the second cell error sequence is so hard now

to the point where I just gave up on trying because I kept wiping there to dumb bot

was like 8 months ago, and that bug still drives me nuts

[mystic moss]

carbine is still good, ammo nerf doesn't really change much
overall you just lose 6 extra bursts

[wicked solstice]

i mean it was just used in a solo clear of R4E1 so that should say something

:3

[valid marten]

I roughly remember the waves spawn quite quickly and bots were just dumb and choose not to shoot

[wicked solstice]

yeah

me when the bots try to melee the flyer

💀

was so busy laughing my ass off that a giant snuck up on me and beat me to death

[valid marten]

The ammo nerf was like 6%, hardly any difference as long as the player is not spamming it recklessly

[junior latch]

think of it like this
if hel revo lost 1 magazine total. Would that make the gun far worse

it is a hit to carbine, but unless you were on the edge ammo wise you wont feel it

[wicked solstice]

only like 1 or 2 guns that would really get affected

looking at sniper

[junior latch]

thats just cuz more % go missing per shot for those guns

if you remove 6% ammo fo sniper it wont care

[valid marten]

I wish theres a command option where we can instruct the bots to use their guns

[wicked solstice]

it's called making sure sleepers don't get close

yeah but I wish that too

[valid marten]

A whole list of things that can be done but I doubt the Devs gonna put in much effort on tweaking bots AI when there are more game breaking stuff that are yet to be patched

[torpid rose]

Guys what was the 2 party conclusion to reload cancel = solo hold

[unreal crystal]

ive got a more important question rick

when are u speedrunning alt r4e1 downwards

[torpid rose]

Justin is exploring the ocean brother

[unreal crystal]

wtf

[torpid rose]

a new leader of the island will be installed at this rate

which do u think sounds better

Roberts Immunity Island

Peters Immunity Island

Ricks Immunity Island

[unreal crystal]

hmm

i think robert wins im sorry rick

[torpid rose]

ok u have made 2 enemies now

[unreal crystal]

that is unfortunate

pls dont counterstream

[burnt flume]

Rick's Immunity Island sounds like the name of a kickass restaurant, I dig it

[junior latch]

whats the benefits of supporting ricks immunity island

[burnt flume]

the others don't quite have the same ring to them

[unreal crystal]

we can all agree that peter's immunity island sounds the worst tho

[torpid rose]

i will oppress robert

and shatter his ego

[unreal crystal]

tempting

he did come into my chat and flex his DUO CLEAR

to appease his EGO

someone needs to stop him...

[burnt flume]

wtf I thought he came to hang out

[torpid rose]

he likes doing that

[formal ember]

henlo whats the proper order of objectives to do in r4d2 pe

[reef vigil]

Привіт в нас є команда з 3-х гравців у GTFO якщо є бажання зіграти разом то напиши. Плануємо зіграти сьогодні приблизно о 10:00

[unreal crystal]

open overload dont grab anything from in there, clear rooms then go do extreme and then go do main and go back for cargo after u have cleared everything in main

dont open door to extract tho

[burnt flume]

^^

[pulsar sigil]

GERZ I CAN HOST E1 NOW

[unreal crystal]

YO

[pulsar sigil]

Also i counterstresmed 1 run last night bc we had professor scaler's mod in the vc

[unreal crystal]

oh true

[pulsar sigil]

Also bc I was bored ;/

How did it go last night I didn't stay until end to watch friend

[unreal crystal]

it went p bad tbh LOL

bread had a funny blood door moment and got killed by 2 giants and my holds were a little scuffed

but we go again today probs

[pulsar sigil]

Ok I watch and root for success

No emoji pls

[unreal crystal]

ur a real one

do u think my hold is too ambitious robert

it can be rlly rough sometimes

[pulsar sigil]

Nah I noticed that most of them go right side from watching u

I think it's ok

[torpid rose]

ur shooting is good when u dont play like crackhead

[unreal crystal]

big issue is plugging codes myself is rough so bread has to plug them all

except final one i do myself

[unreal crystal]

true LOL

sometimes i just lose it

[torpid rose]

i see the helgun quickscopes and instant hammers into 2 tongues and dont know how to feel sometimes

good shooting otherwise

[unreal crystal]

ok um

just respect the hustle

im determined

[pulsar sigil]

Be determined to SHOOT not HAMMER

[torpid rose]

this is true

do not blunder

[unreal crystal]

yea idk why im even going for the hammers man

some primal urge

[torpid rose]

reflex

[pulsar sigil]

Like when I see an ant at home, I don't step on it. I use my 12 gauge to pop him you know

[torpid rose]

LOL

equivalent to 1 bursting a baby

[unreal crystal]

LMFAO

see thats the issue i think

im in the uk we dont have guns so i have to step on it u know

[undone void]

is it easy to play with bots on the very first mission sections?

kinda new to the game

[wispy bluff]

Sort of, yes.

[livid gulch]

is more difficult than a team
but much easier than pure solo

[wispy bluff]

But playtime will be bloated because they don't help with neither stealth nor loot hunting.

You'll have to get everything done yourself.

[burnt flume]

that sounds absolutely awful

[wispy bluff]

They are just turrets.

[undone void]

just goin to try to unlock the very first areas so i can start playin with ppl

failed missions, cant do they again, can i?

[wispy bluff]

Remember: matchmaking is dead.

Local LFG channels are the only way.

You can find helpers at #lfg-beginners

[undone void]

ye, saw that on both the steam reviews and tutorial videos

[wispy bluff]

Can't decipher this one, reword.

[undone void]

lets say i fail R1D1, can i play it again?

like retry

[wispy bluff]

Yes, of course.

[undone void]

ah ok

[wispy bluff]

If you have access to it.

[livid gulch]

game isnt that hardcore lol

yeah

[undone void]

for some reason i thought it was LMAO

[wispy bluff]

You'll feel the heat when you'll do the PEs.

That's when it hits ya how dirty this game can be.

[undone void]

whats that

oh, all the difficulties

all the badges

[wispy bluff]

Prisoner Efficiency

It means beating all 3 objectives (primary + 2 optionals) on the same run.

Rundowns 1-3 don't have that, btw. Only 4 and onward.

The primary objectives are usually not that bad, but optionals can be rough and some of them can make the rest of the level harder for good measure.

[undone void]

i saw a video of a guy doing a PE at r7c2, he took 2 hours

[wispy bluff]

Yeah, sounds about right.

Local veterans like that one.

[undone void]

[wispy bluff]

I've beaten R4C2 PE with bots recently.

Cutting down the AFK downtime it took me 4 hours.

I was thorough and wasn't taking chances.

Funny thing? With just 1 veteran who knows where to go it would take like 50m tops.

[undone void]

i imagine making a single mistake in the middle of it or near the end and have to redo all over again

[serene berry]

wait, who likes R7C2? lol

[undone void]

alright, sounds just like my type of game

[wispy bluff]

I'll actually make that one into a video short soon.

Out of context it looks pathetic.

[serene berry]

usually, if you are with a team of people who know whats up, little mistakes don't add up unless its an E level

[wispy bluff]

The water melon delivery boy, smh

[wispy bluff]

I think DJ kinda likes it. Might be wrong.

But he wasn't drowning it in piss, so that's a good start.

[serene berry]

nah, he dreads the potential of multi-hour clears

he'll bite the bullet if he gets to pop someone's cherry on a PE tho

[wispy bluff]

Ew

A true Frenchman, I see

[little ridge]

how did this test end btw

Does it matter if it's the same bubble?

I assume the "it doesn't matter" wasn't the response to the test?

[pine root]

So unless you are client damaging the bubble (when it is destroyed o host but still there for you cause it hasn’t updated) you can only do up to the bubbles health.

so practically speaking unless you are using shotguns/ have very high ping you can not over damage bubble.

This also means if you are perma staggering mom you won’t do full stagger on dmg bubbles

so the 2 person hammer on mom is probably impossible unless you are super frame perfect

So in the end if you are client shotguns very good against bubbles. If you are sniper you should go for undamaged bubbles

Also the best opener on a sleeping mom is hammer into shotgun spam you can solo without birth

This works on alert moms too but you need door or need to wait for scream

Was fun tests

The solo melee tank was kinda borning but can be done pretty consistently

If you wait for scream

[pine root]

Depending on cover

[mighty goblet]

Hey guys. Which weapons are the most Chad to use? I’m thinking of trying them out

I use the revolvers

[formal ember]

r4d2 does tank at the end automatically wake up?

[storm quartz]

No

[formal ember]

oh ok is the cargo box charger waves when i pick it up?

[rose stream]

shadow waves every 10s

[formal ember]

is that all?

[serene berry]

from overload and the cargo? yes

[formal ember]

ok cool

how should i kill this tank since its not awake lmao

[serene berry]

shoot it probably

[mint light]

Someone called?

Is it about R7C2PE?

[mint light]

Did I not do your first PE on that map?

[coarse grail]

@mint light will you give me my first R4E1 clear when I get there? :3

[mint light]

Depends on my schedule

Also how far are you ?

[coarse grail]

Cleared C tier last session

[rose stream]

I remember picking up a cfoam tripmine in D2, not sure if it's a guarantee spawn item but if you manage to get it use it on the tank. Throw a few fog repellers in the room where tank is then place cfoam mine under his feet the rest is just normal shooting

[serene berry]

and would you have hopped on if i already had a PE?

[serene berry]

sniper, Burst Cannon, and most shotguns are the favored options for reasonable combination of speed and efficiency

[mint light]

No

[serene berry]

QED

[mint light]

I'm always honest

[junior latch]

hel pps and auto sentrys

take it or leave it

[serene berry]

[merry island]

Am new to this game sorta , super rusty anyone want to do a run , been a few years since I played. Tired of incompetent ai

[shut vapor]

Check out the lfg channels, especially lfg-beginner and look for/make a post to participate in

[merry island]

Appreciate it ty

[analog flicker]

remembers one of the LFG-Beginners I joined earlier this week

One guy was a Beginner to PC Gaming

💀

[shut vapor]

Well everyone has to start somewhere

[analog flicker]

Somewhere indeed. However I wouldn't recommend that start to be GTFO

[shut vapor]

This is why we need a console release >:)

[analog flicker]

Highly unlikely

But if it does.

Keep the updates separate and no fuckin crossplay

[shut vapor]

basically Risk of Rain

[analog flicker]

[shut vapor]

except console still aint got the RoR2 dlc lmfao

[analog flicker]

The Void DLC?

The hell

[shut vapor]

ya

They were rebuilding everything from scratch

[sharp owl]

i dont need to have the level unlocked to play it as long as the host does right?

[shut vapor]

Correct

[rose nova]

nope, u can play r4e1 if the host has it

so its oke

[sharp owl]

k

[rose nova]

every outfit is unlockable except special ones like the one happenin rn and those prob are never coming back

so do a mission rn

get ur backpack

:3

ah u can just do r1a1 or r7a1 again

it counts on already completed expeditions if its a special one ksks

[vivid panther]

Finally did r7a1 for the backpack

[rose nova]

nice :O

and on a steam deck

rad!

[vivid panther]

Pain I tell you

I never used a controller before

[rose nova]

probs :D
but u did it so thats skill

[torn wedge]

tf

[livid gulch]

most skilled GTFO player

[elfin osprey]

After r7d1, r4d1 has become my most hated level with the 6 scout room

And a bunch of charger

r7d1 is so frecking stupid because of random snatcher spawn, which make 1/4 of the run possible( 2 snatcher is too much for me to deal with in random pubs), the choose to deal with class 10 charger or try to not wake mom up, and the 100 terminal and remember where is the right terminal

[rose nova]

its ok u can vent here

[elfin osprey]

but how on earth can i beat r4d1 with bad scout killing and pubs randomizer

i guess it mean more rng

[rose nova]

use spear

[elfin osprey]

no, spear isnt good against scout

i am on the hammer team( for now)

[rose nova]

o_o?

i well