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[elfin osprey]

i wish i have a team i can play with a lot

[brittle pasture]

авантюрно нужен +1

[tropic wolf]

ищу пати

[frigid depot]

Ищу тиму

или пати

[brittle pasture]

залетайте в первую голосовуху

ру типочки нужны с прямыми руками и знанием python с опытом 10 лет минимум

[modern verge]

Huh

[livid gulch]

russian invasion

[earnest forge]

They just might have forgotten that there are actual channels for group making

.t lfg

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[tidal jay]

Why is the hel autopistol so fucking good

Is there any reason to not bring it

Ever

[elfin osprey]

a lot

[tidal jay]

What'd that be?

[junior latch]

lack of dmg

[livid gulch]

your mom

[elfin osprey]

hel auto pisto is a staggering gun

it have no damage

[tidal jay]

Well, that's not why you bring it though

[junior latch]

having 1 is nice at times, but you are delegated to heavily supporting the team

[elfin osprey]

god tier wave control then what

[livid gulch]

uhm clearly it can one shot everything

[elfin osprey]

uhmm, u bring it for wave control

[junior latch]

if you bring it for stagger, in most situations hel shotgun is gonna do the same and more

[burnt flume]

You can skip on taking it whenever you want, but yeah it is mostly a support gun

[elfin osprey]

u stun them for your team to deal with

[tidal jay]

Bataldo?

[junior latch]

hel shotgun

who knows funny names in this game

[burnt flume]

If you're playing with some cracked gamers then gun choice won't really matter unless you're dealing with something like charger spam

[elfin osprey]

hel shotty= doom slayer supper shotty

[tidal jay]

Me getting called a schizophrenic after calling the Carbine something like "Van auken"

[junior latch]

also, i think some people underrate it, but at best hel pp is a „good“ gun

[elfin osprey]

it lack everything

[junior latch]

eh. It only lacks dmg (and range if you consider dmg)

[elfin osprey]

i think the damage lack is alot

[junior latch]

up the dmg slightly and the gun becomes extremely strong quickly

it has insane uptime and stagger

[tidal jay]

Yeah I feel like a gun that stuns like that can't have good damage

[junior latch]

hel shotgun

[tidal jay]

Bataldo?

🦅

[elfin osprey]

hel shotty, make the game so ez

[junior latch]

hel pp, 60 dmg per mag
Hel shotgun, 180 dmg per mag

[little ridge]

Really depends on the chokepoint you want to hold and to what you want to hold

[junior latch]

[elfin osprey]

brute force everything with the power of 1000 shotty

[little ridge]

I'd never bring hel autopistol on a charger level

[junior latch]

its actually not that bad

you stagger them in 2 bullets

[elfin osprey]

wow

[junior latch]

and give team breathing room

[tidal jay]

Call me schizo, I've done it and made it work

[elfin osprey]

that was not expecting

[junior latch]

low downtime also means you dont get suprised like hel shotty can in a reload

[little ridge]

Ok let me clarify

"It wouldn't be my first choice"

[tidal jay]

What would be your first choice for Chargers?

[junior latch]

hel revo

cuz its hel revo

[elfin osprey]

hel auto pistol would be my last choice

carbine and hel rev do the work

[tidal jay]

What makes hel revo so good? I can hit headshots but at that point isn't Dmr better?

[little ridge]

hel revo

[elfin osprey]

dmr lack finish damage

[little ridge]

Carbine is always at least decent no matter the situation imho

[rose nova]

if u play with bots its a fkin life saver, u stagger em and the bots dispatch em

[burnt flume]

Amazing reload cancel, great damage, staggers strikers in 1 shot, has overpen

[little ridge]

bots delete error charger waves in R3C1 already alone without me doing anything

[elfin osprey]

hel rev is hel rev, doing the job with finest

[burnt flume]

autopistol I would only take if I trust my teammates tbh, and that'd be more of a novelty because I've always used the killing guns

[tidal jay]

The dmr lacks damage?

[little ridge]

I guess accessibility is also a weight you could use for a weapon

[elfin osprey]

yes

[rose nova]

no they dont?
the chargers get close they get punched to oblivion

[little ridge]

I rarely take hel revo because I'm afraid of missing

[livid gulch]

a little funny to say autopistol is best then proceed to say hel rev isn't that good

[little ridge]

Carbine is more forgiving (covers a different role but you get what I mean)

[tidal jay]

So if I use the Dmr, should I just switch to hel revo?

[elfin osprey]

dmr basiclly lack the bit of damage to 1 shot stuff

[little ridge]

I feel like we already had this discussion, I did that with bots twice and gave them burst cannon (pre nerf tbh) and they kept deleting them

[elfin osprey]

yup

[rose nova]

if we did i dont remember it

but i guess with
burst cannon?

[elfin osprey]

hel rev is a better choice than dmr

[tidal jay]

Is the burst that bad with bots now? Since recoil doesn't affect them

[eternal maple]

DMR scope is just too much

[elfin osprey]

bot waste ammo

[rose nova]

hel revo is a better choice technically but at the end every gun is usable except for like
2

[eternal maple]

game is way to CQB for it

[sullen thistle]

anyone want to join up with me

[tidal jay]

Bro I love me some Dmr action

Sexy ass gun

[rose nova]

hello u can find people in the LFG channels

.t lfg

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[elfin osprey]

hel rev do the same

[rose nova]

just some advice!
ask to not be carried, be sure to do the tutorial first [Training], start on rundown 1 and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur vc

[elfin osprey]

but better

hard to use at first

[rose nova]

if u like the dmr and ur good at headshots u can have it perfectly
and if u add a main dmg booster, it oneshots smols

so

[eternal maple]

If if you can use it than yeah its pretty good, but unless your aim is immaculate its pretty bad

[rose nova]

pretty noice

[tidal jay]

I'll give it a serious try sometime later today

[elfin osprey]

but reward your headshot

[eternal maple]

might as well use use hel rev or rifle

[rose nova]

yeah dmr is a very headshot intensive weapon

[elfin osprey]

i remememer it cant 1 shot shooter without booster

[tidal jay]

Yeah that I'm aware of, it's what I like so much about the gun actually

[rose nova]

no it can

im pretty sure it does 1 shot shooters

just with base dmg

[tidal jay]

If the Hel revo is the same I'll try it out today

[rose nova]

hel revo is a bit more forgivin but still rewards headshots

a lot

[livid gulch]

hel rev can one shot to the head with 14% dmg boost

DMR just does it anyway

[tidal jay]

To shooters

[elfin osprey]

oh wait

[tidal jay]

Not strikers

[rose nova]

shooters have a bigger headshot multiplier

i dont remember it

but it was
bigger ksmdk

[elfin osprey]

dmr need 5% more damage to 1 shot striker

im looking at the booster damage chart

https://i.imgur.com/irKEMlq.png

[tidal jay]

Where can I find that?

Snap, thanks

[elfin osprey]

https://www.reddit.com/r/GTFO/comments/11y6yfg/resource_thresholds_for_weapon_damage_boosters/

one of the guy send it to me

[rose nova]

it says 'no boost'

shooter headshot

1

?????

[elfin osprey]

i look at the wrong column

[rose nova]

shot to kill shooter, no bost, headshot, 1

ah

there cha go

dmr can oneshot shooters

[elfin osprey]

its the striker body+headshot column

[jade iron]

why are you bringing this up in a comparison to hel revo?

dmr and hel revo have basically identical damage per shot fwiw

[elfin osprey]

to say that hel rev is better

i still love hel rev

[jade iron]

not sure where the extra 0.5 damage actually first hits any meaningful breakpoints

[elfin osprey]

eventhough im bad at it

[jade iron]

...but hel revo doesn't 1shot strikers either?

like, hel revo is my favourite main by far

but let's give accurate advice here

[elfin osprey]

it dont

it 1 head shot + 1 body shot

[jade iron]

yes, like dmr

[elfin osprey]

• the hel effect of guns

piercing bullet

[tidal jay]

How much pierce does it have?

[jade iron]

sure but now you're talking about a different feature

[tidal jay]

1? 2 bodies?

[jade iron]

2

[rose nova]

think its 2

[jade iron]

i.e. hits up to 2 targets total

[elfin osprey]

i think they nerf piercing to 1

[rose nova]

no i dont think so

thats hel autopistol

[livid gulch]

the one person brought up the comparison for some reason

[jade iron]

the datablocks store penetration in terms of total amount of enemies the gun can hit with 1 shot

[tidal jay]

So yeah 2 bodies total

Some of the loadouts I usually bring are Dmr + HAR, Autopistol + Sniper and Dmr + Combat Shotgun. Not sure what y'all would recommend to change to optimize these better?

[jade iron]

upsides of hel revo:
more ammo per refill
pen
slightly faster fire rate
slightly higher damage (8 vs 7.5, almost never matters)
slightly faster reload cancel
upsides of dmr:
mag size (12 v 8)
precision multi (1taps shooters)
range, though hel revo's range is long enough that it almost always has the same breakpoints as dmr in practice (e.g. 1 head + 1 body or 3 body striker kills)

there's probably something else I'm forgetting

[elfin osprey]

carbine go with everything

[tidal jay]

I used Carbine all the way till R4alt

I'm done with Carbine

[rose nova]

i mean those two weapons r just the 'meta' as much as i hate that word

but they arent needed

[tidal jay]

8 for revolver and 7.5 for Dmr yea?

[rose nova]

u dont have to like play with em in order to complete levels

[jade iron]

ya

[rose nova]

i never pick up both of em

[elfin osprey]

striker need 5%more damage to get 1 headshot by dmr

[rose nova]

i font like em at all

[elfin osprey]

if im correct

[elfin osprey]

then go assualt rifle

[jade iron]

not relevant to the comparison

[elfin osprey]

hel rev

[elfin osprey]

but it still count as a bad side

[rose nova]

at the end u just gotta choose whatever u like

[elfin osprey]

because u need 1 more bullet to kill striker

[jade iron]

like, if you're using boosters, then I guess needing any muted damage booster to get dmr 1taps vs 13% damage booster to get hel revo 1taps

[rose nova]

try all the weapons out if u havent

see what u really love n what not

[tidal jay]

What about the rifle?

[rose nova]

and then just choose what feels right

rifles pretty noice

[elfin osprey]

good, but go with headshot

[jade iron]

you need one more hel revo bullet too

[rose nova]

again no weapons are really bad weapons

rifle is like a mix between pistol and dmr

its a bit headshot intensive but forgives more bodyshots cause it has more mag size n stuff

and the scope its

god i love that scope

[tidal jay]

I'll try them out today then, both hel rev and rifle

As for special, is bringing the sniper worth it?

[elfin osprey]

put machine pistol on the list

[jade iron]

as long as we brush bullpup and precision rifle under the rug over there, sure

[elfin osprey]

sniper worth it when u have a do everything main gun

[jade iron]

it's niche

[tidal jay]

Such as Carbine and Hel rev?

[elfin osprey]

does bullpup and pr exist?

[rose nova]

sniper is preatty nice as long as u have a team that supports u on smols
u know
dont let the 4 people have like, all snipers

it is a very low ammo gun but just destroys any big ones

with a headshot

[elfin osprey]

carbine, assualt rifle, so on

[jade iron]

most of the time you're better off taking choke mod shotgun over sniper if you want to take down big targets at range

[rose nova]

a flexible one

[elfin osprey]

almost every main gun is flexible

[last parrot]

carbine eats up ammo on reactor though

[elfin osprey]

its the playstyle that seperate them

[rose nova]

ikr

i tried carbine cause i wanted to do reactors and i just waste it all

[tidal jay]

Yeah I was coming to this as well, which of the special shotguns should I be bringing? I usually default to combat

[elfin osprey]

choke mod for tank and mom

combat for wave clearing+ wave control

normal for damage

[burnt flume]

combat is amazing at most things other than ranged damage output

[elfin osprey]

its a shotgun

shot range make it a shotgun

[burnt flume]

choke mod is also a shotgun

[green flume]

every main weapon is good except saw-off

[jade iron]

combat shotgun for a bias towards close-quarter waveclear
pump shotgun if you want a blend of damage and waveclear at close range (and for the love of god learn to reload cancel it)
choke if you want to trade of waveclear for range, keeping damage

[rose nova]

sawed off was pretty noice

[elfin osprey]

expect chokemod though

[rose nova]

i think

i tried it

was super fun

[elfin osprey]

chokemod is a high tech shotgun

[tidal jay]

In what sense?

[elfin osprey]

they somehow reduce the blast cone

[tidal jay]

That sounds like a buff

[jade iron]

but also of the three, combat shotgun is current the most overtuned, whereas choke just gets a little filthy when tanks are in the room, and pump shotgun is perfectly balanced

[elfin osprey]

alot

thats why choke mod only have 4 bullet

[rose nova]

choke mod its ok but the low mag its a bit of a pain in the butt, cause its 4 shots, and i love t but damn im sick of reloadin it ksdmk

[elfin osprey]

with small blast cone= consantrate fire power in 1 small place= max damage on big moving sandbag

[rose nova]

ah why u eliminated the

message

??

[green flume]

we dont talk about bullpup
SMG stats
long reload

[junior latch]

bullpup lol
hel pp is goodish if you have teammates here

[rose nova]

ah

[elfin osprey]

does bullpup exist in this game?

[rose nova]

autop is so damn noice with bots i dont even have to aim i just stagger

[elfin osprey]

i didnt know about it existance

[tidal jay]

Autop just feels so good to use Imho

[junior latch]

More like it shoots bullets the size of tree logs

[rose nova]

yeh those sounds are top notch

[jade iron]

last I heard, it had been removed from the game temporarily so that the devs could reload it

back in the next patch perhaps

[green flume]

bullpup is the worst auto-fire main

[elfin osprey]

does it exist in the game?

[junior latch]

dmr has advantages vs shooters and insane range. Otherwise it also has a longer power window (mag size) vs slightly worse reload when cancelled

[elfin osprey]

i dont see it anywhere

i though they are working on how to reload the damn gun

[tidal jay]

So I need to learn hel rev cancel?

[green flume]

the upside of bullpup:

• cool sound?
• cool sight

[rose nova]

i tried bullpup cause i was playin r1d1 for the funs but hehe i love the sight

damn it is a nice sight

[burnt flume]

you should learn to reload cancel every gun, really

[elfin osprey]

i like bullpup because it is big

[tidal jay]

Fair

[jade iron]

you should learn to reload cancel for both dmr and hel revo, they both have terrible natural reloads

[burnt flume]

gives you a lot more uptime/holding power

[jade iron]

2.3s I think

[elfin osprey]

but nah, i dont want to waste time reloading

main gun reload should be fast to back up special weapon when they are out

[tidal jay]

Anywhere where I can learn how to do that or is it as simple as just looking it up?

[elfin osprey]

its really easy

[rose nova]

um u just start the reload, see when the bullets reload in the top right corner, switch gun, go back to it

and u skip the animation

ad start shootin again

[junior latch]

Auto pp, sniper is… oof

no way of killing anything but bigs fast. You rly want teammates for that

[jade iron]

during the reload, switch to a different weapon (either directly or by pressing shove) when the numbers change

[elfin osprey]

i actually go for sound effect

[green flume]

bullpup reload cancel: non-existent

[junior latch]

Efficiency (ammo per refill)

[elfin osprey]

i use sound effect to reload cancel alot

[rose nova]

fairs

but for startin

[tidal jay]

Ah, that's simple

[burnt flume]

Reload -> magazine gets loaded -> either (use your shove button/swap gun) -> Pull the gun you were reloading back out -> that's a reload cancel

[jade iron]

shove is quicker (direct swapping takes a small amount of time that shove avoids), but my muscle memory is stuck on direct swapping, so consider learning shove cancels right away

[junior latch]

Special gun vs bigs and some „bosses“

either rly good for a level or basically a non slot if its mostly smalls or other stuff

[tidal jay]

Yeah I've been playing with a set team as of late, and I'm definitely not the best of the 4 so I often focus on supporting fire

[jade iron]

appears to be the first line under hel revo advantages?

[junior latch]

this is only the case for smaller targets and bbcs/snatcher and mom. Even with the slightly higher efficiency sniper is still the better choice in a team setting vs tanks

[jade iron]

this was more of a generalized comment about choices of what to bring to a level than about what you'd like to point at big strikers specifically

[junior latch]

it cuts the reload by 1.3 seconds roughly (2.3 to 1)

[jade iron]

like, of course if you're only shooting big strikers and hybrids with your special, sniper's the pick

but normally you're shooting a few bigs and then you'd love to pitch in and help with shooting smalls too

[green flume]

wait two rundowns for scattergun birther moment

[jade iron]

choke mod will outperform sniper in that regard

[junior latch]

sniper is definetly hyper specialized

the only enemy its neither insane or garbage against is mom

[green flume]

all depends on level would say

[jade iron]

oh, and I'd only preference sniper over choke mod v tanks in particular if you need quick tank kills

that's, like, maybe r6c3pe? I can't think of many other levels where the tank must die quickly

[junior latch]

a lot of levels actually
its also that you need a good team (choke player good, team not troll him good) to get choke efficiency well

sniper just hits and destroys

[elfin osprey]

r4e1?

[junior latch]

usually if its a tank thats not alone you wanna kill it quick

[jade iron]

I'll really actually need examples of those levels

[elfin osprey]

it need tank to die fast

really fast

[junior latch]

see r4e1, r7d1

r7d2

r7c3 (kinda if you were slowish)

[elfin osprey]

r7d2 really need u to kill tank fast

[junior latch]

r4c1 if you arent vets

[crimson prism]

How do i go about gouping up with 3 others? normally play with my buddies but none are online

[elfin osprey]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[thorny notch]

anyone know where the TTS voice originates from?

the one that announces bioscans and threat levels

[jade iron]

can't say on r4e1, disagree on r7d1, could go either way on r7d2 though there's so much ammo there that the gun almost turns into r6 sniper I guess

oh and terrible reason to bring sniper to r7c3

[rose nova]

just some advice!
ask to not be carried, and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur vc

[elfin osprey]

r7d1 really need tank killing fast

[green flume]

I dont actually think R6C3 required the tank to die really fast
there arent really a punishment for going pass 30 mins mark
I think its more like R6 was prime rundown for sniper

[elfin osprey]

u are doing 2 2 while having snatcher on ur butt every 4 min

[jade iron]

...why? just finish the round and take 10mins killing tank before starting the next one

[elfin osprey]

snatcher

[jade iron]

lol I'd much rather just choke mod the snatcher and then spend as long as I like killing tank

[elfin osprey]

im not spending 10 min to deal with 2 to 3 snatcher

[green flume]

would you count R5E1 tank since the giant error pile up really really fast

[elfin osprey]

snatcher waste ammo alot

[jade iron]

I'm not sure what the duos loadout for r6c3pe is going to be this time around, having the tank still alive when the next wave comes through is pretty ugly

[green flume]

for most case, if the position is not too bad the team can ignore the tank and clear the wave first
since the wave create more threat than the actual tank does

[jade iron]

oh you mean overload snatcher? they're like a once every 4 minutes thing, you don't need anywhere near that long to choke mod a tank

[elfin osprey]

but still

any time save is important

[jade iron]

and ammo's so plentiful in r7d1 baby section that you can easily afford to just wait out a snatcher between each round

[elfin osprey]

1 less snatcher to deal with

[elfin osprey]

but if u f up mom room

[green flume]

plus R6C3 has tons of resources to spare if you're willing to look of it

[elfin osprey]

it would be a good trade of

[jade iron]

like if they ever fix the snatcher spawn bug, they should set the wave size to 2 snatchers

1 snatcher just doesn't even start to tax the team very much

[green flume]

it doesnt even tax any ammo if you just hammer the one snatcher

its easy to dodge the sntach

[jade iron]

I don't know, I sweated over the duo for a long time and plotted out pretty good wave hold locations throughout the run. Tank hanging around for multiple waves was still usually run dead.

[junior latch]

hell, you can have a burst cannon and have snatchers be half a mag every 4 min

[green flume]

I would say having one sniper would still be good on R6C3 since resources are high
and there's a lot of giant, hybrid in general

[jade iron]

I am wondering how the ammo is going to go with the sniper nerf in that level, for the duo at least

like even with ahto hitting his shots he'd run low on goddamn r6 sniper, aside from the tanks they do throw a lot of giants at you in that level

and you don't always find all the res you want when you're two people

[torpid rose]

Brother you literally bring any gun in a duo

mine deployer does all the work

[jade iron]

it does a lot of work, but there aren't that many doors

[torpid rose]

enough to kill 70% of the waves

[green flume]

or sniper sentry + bio could be a play for giant clearing while dealing with tank

one with wave clearing capability hold the wave with the sniper sentry and get tank aggro when free

[jade iron]

sentry setups to buy cover from waves for tank fight come into it for sure

[junior latch]

so much more ammo usage then tho for slower wave clear?

[jade iron]

and yes mines kill a lot of the waves

[green flume]

having one sniper with 10 ammo total could bring down a tank in a minute if handles right

[jade iron]

what you're left with is still a lot of waveclear in my experience

but it'll be interesting to see again with current balance

such a fun duo

we'll try to make sniper work, we'll probably also try to make choke mod work

[green flume]

you exchange normal wave clear with giant clearing capability at certain time
as long as you are capable to solo hold a wave

[jade iron]

none of this was complaining about sniper balance or whatever btw, I probably wouldn't push its ammo any higher than the last patch did

[green flume]

or manage your resource to let sniper hold 4 uses of ammo when needed
since you would know when will giants and tank will come

[serene sable]

Moin Leute

[jade iron]

lol, ahto gets jitters if he's not holding a fat ammo pack

[green flume]

there is three set of timers after completing overload
2 for tank
1 for giant wave

[jade iron]

and he's tyically been on tank duty in our previous runs

[green flume]

but I don't remember the giant wave timer

[jade iron]

we had this all mapped out back in the day

it's the sort of level where you end up kinda having spawn events timed to reaching certain parts of the level

[green flume]

yes

after like 5 times

you could consistently get the light back on before extraction

[junior latch]

also btw. Regarding taking too long

Rising fog obviously, but some post timer waves are MASSIVE

its like 4+ min after

but 30 enemies are rough with no doors

[green flume]

and I would say R5E1 is the level where you need to kill the tank fast unless you want to kite giants

[jade iron]

there was some weirdness with the overtime waves

[green flume]

there arent really a level that you need to kill the tank very fast
for most case
within 2 minutes is fine

[jade iron]

like, I believe you got a triple hybrid wave at 0:00, then some large waves of strikers, then you'd get these weird ones where only 1 or 3 showed up, then you'd start getting dunked

[green flume]

yes

and after sometimes the spawn would become very slow and easy

[sharp siren]

I am eric chadman

[green flume]

Hello Eric Chadman The Platonic One who reset R4 stats that are from GTFO discord server with Bladerunner 2049 Avatar

[sharp siren]

I smiled at you in the cafeteria on thurday during lunch

[quartz cape]

what do the records say about you

[sharp siren]

Ive spend reading your records

im just looking for something platonic

something non-sexual

[bold falcon]

im not

[tidal jay]

How good is Machinegun Arbalist V?

[last parrot]

generally a good balanced auto special

[jade iron]

arbalist and veruta are basically interchangeable

I think veruta may have a higher theoretical ceiling and a bit more stagger potential in practice

[last parrot]

arbalist is better for smaller crowds

[storm quartz]

Skip the charge-up use HAR

[jade iron]

but arbalist has easier breakpoints to work with against smalls and is probably easier to control

so basically up to preference

[jade iron]

does seem like people are underrating that fire rate buff

and overrating the ammo the mg's get

[storm quartz]

Yea I was surprised they buff the RoF

[jade iron]

har gets something like 20% more dps than the mg's now

[storm quartz]

Kind of insane for quick killing in close range

[jade iron]

it's more dps than the pump shotty

[storm quartz]

Shotgun could use a very slight range buff and the bug fix

[jade iron]

god we're in the timeline where we entertain shotgun buffs

agree with bug fix

[sharp siren]

we went full circle

[storm quartz]

Just trying to get everything on Hel Gun levels

[sharp siren]

back to r3 range

[jade iron]

I mean you're not wrong

[storm quartz]

Was it 6 or 7 meters

I just want 5

The RoF of R3 shotgun was insane

[jade iron]

god at the start of r7 nearly every special was basically in a reasonable place

just nerf veruta

and obv. take away that har recoil

now look where we are

[brittle pasture]

ру типы есть кто нибудь?

[storm quartz]

Maybe the sway bug is just making me think Shotgun is shit rn lmao

[sharp siren]

Literally this

[jade iron]

I'm starting to think sway bug is sway feature, unfortunately

[storm quartz]

Why it only on one gun type

Bullpup literally shots sideways then straight when taking it out and ads canceling

[jade iron]

maybe we need to open a tech support ticket for it and see what happens

though I cbf finding the footage someone took of it, or taking my own footage

[ocean monolith]

why do i have R1-R4 but not R5 or R6 but also have R7

[rose nova]

#hc-europe message

[sharp siren]

theyre slowly releasing the older rundowns back

[ocean monolith]

o ok

[rose nova]

soo this game used to work like fortnite seasons
when Rundown 2 came out, it replaced Rundown 1, Rundown 3 replaced Rundown 2 and so on, everytime a new rundown came the old one got eliminated
on Rundown 7 tho, the devs decided to bring the old rundowns back, and they did it the ALT://Rundowns, the old rundowns but slightly changed and optimized
and so next up they need to release ALT://Rundown 5

theres the whole explanation

!!

[ocean monolith]

thats dope

[brittle pasture]

есть кто живой?

[analog flicker]

I despise that fortnite is used as a comparison here.

[rose nova]

is the easiet one to

use an as aexample

cause i cant think of any other game that is as popular that used the season thing

[analog flicker]

While true. That fortnite was the first to really do that.

I just don't like fortnite

While the UE side of it is interesting in what people will create from it

[livid gulch]

I will shoot anyone that has played fortnite and transform their mother into a werewolf for a lustful night over and over

[analog flicker]

Technically speaking. With the UE shit going on.
(Someone creates GTFO using Fortnite UE)

[livid gulch]

lmfao

no one has done shit with UE

its too advanced for all the lustful children

cause its very close to using Unreal Engine anyway

[analog flicker]

The possibilities exist

But you aren't wrong either

I'm just gonna cry if I see games get popular and were made using that

[livid gulch]

maybe, only time will tell
Roblox on the other hand

[vestal crystal]

i pinged calle and linked him clips twice about it, once a couple months back, and the first was sometime last year, even pointed it out to d0cred before he left

either its a feature or they dont have any coders working on gtfo that can actually fix it lol

[jade iron]

they seem to be in a habit of responding to threads in #1049599987878723635

based on the few ones I looked through at least

[dark kayak]

да

[vestal crystal]

since decemeber there has been one bugfix that actually affected gameplay, which is immortal not being removed after teleport in r7e1

[jade iron]

yeah I'm not saying they'll do anything

I'm beyond that point

[vestal crystal]

just run shotguncenterfire by default now

[pine root]

Shot gun sway is intended it must be

[analog flicker]

Instructions unclear. I downed my teammate instead

[sweet fog]

hey guys its my first time playing this game

are there any groups to join as a first timer

appreciate

it**

[analog flicker]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[untold ravine]

#lfg-beginners is a great place for newer players

[sweet fog]

sweet thanks

but i have one major problem

i live in the UAE and discord voice is interrupted here!

is there a way to fix that somehow

interrupted i mean by blocked

[analog flicker]

From what I can gather on Google

The ISP there blocks it

Might have to use a VPN

[sweet fog]

which VPN do you recommend the most that also does not make my connection slow**

and thanks alot for the help

[analog flicker]

I'm not too familiar with VPNs unfortunately

[rose nova]

well with our sponsor NORDVPN U COULD GET THE FA-

[ocean wagon]

proton vpn is a good vpn that i use

[sweet fog]

which server though?

are the best*

[pastel dagger]

du vs etisalat vs discord browser version, both isps tend to work for some ppl differently or not at all, lmao

lately not at all so vpn is all you get, but which one and server nobody knows

[sweet fog]

hmm

[pastel dagger]

you could also mute your mic and speak in game maybe

[sweet fog]

thanks bro

[pastel dagger]

no worries

it wouldnt be such an issue if it werent for gtfo specifically requiring discord, like we moved on to paying for microsoft teams to play other games using voice

[frigid depot]

Ищу стак

Are there any Russians?

[rose nova]

#hc-europe message

[frigid depot]

Thanks

[livid gulch]

you need money for that

aside from that, ProtonVPN

[ebon coral]

Anyone want to join me in a cuple of runs

[wispy bluff]

Why is there a locked voice channel called "helps i has no frenz i am soloing"

[quartz cape]

its for solos

[wispy bluff]

1. Why is there a solo channel. Kinda pointless.
   2 Why is it locked.

[quartz cape]

its for solos

[wicked solstice]

yes

[livid gulch]

its for solo runs

[wispy bluff]

but why is it locked

what's the point if nobody can get in

[quartz cape]

its for solos

[wicked solstice]

yeah

[wispy bluff]

You people are driving me insane

[quartz cape]

you are clearly not a solo player

[wicked solstice]

bruh it's for solo's

[quartz cape]

solo players get it

[sullen steppe]

hey guys

quick question

my arms are broken and too far forward

can it be fixed in game?

[untold ravine]

I still remember the day I created that VC.. Ahhh memories

[livid gulch]

quick everyone run

[quartz cape]

its the torso cosmetic you're wearing

its currently bugged

[quartz cape]

why

[livid gulch]

idk

[sullen steppe]

awh really?

focki

[sharp owl]

is this game playable only with voice chat

[livid gulch]

you can be mute

just acknowledge other players talking or messages

[sharp owl]

okay, thanks

[thick temple]

one day i wanna try playing with people "as intended" and only use the voice command thing to communicate

[magic nacelle]

I just got the game today, is training basically the tutorial?

[wispy bluff]

Yes.

[thick temple]

pretty much

[magic nacelle]

alright thanks

[thick temple]

just be aware that it's not gonna teach you everything

[sharp owl]

how to join someone?

[magic nacelle]

so im guessing I will learn by experience?

[thick temple]

ye

[magic nacelle]

alright

[wispy bluff]

You need their room code

They have to share it with either via DMs or just posting in channels

[sharp owl]

how can i get the code if chanels are all voice?

[thick temple]

you use the lfg channels

#how-to-matchmake

[wispy bluff]

LFG channels, yes

The people usually just post their room code and call it a day

something like
LFG R1A1
room code
voicechat link

You just copy room code and join them. Preferably you join voice as well, to at least hear what they're saying.

[sharp owl]

ight, thanks!

[wispy bluff]

Some people might not be okay with you not having a mic, but its a rare occasion.

Frankly they should notify about it in the post to begin with.

[thick temple]

eh, i feel like people not having a mic is probably the minority so generally speaking they don't need to

[wispy bluff]

True, but i've seen a couple and it prevents unnecessary conflicts. No one wants to angrily scream at the guy to leave the room.

[wicked solstice]

you could just

[thick temple]

if they're gonna get like that, then yeah i would agree

[wicked solstice]

ask nicely

[thick temple]

dak

this is the internet

[sharp owl]

its 1 am here, i can not talk rn

[wicked solstice]

right

[thick temple]

asking everyone to be generally respectful is just

[wicked solstice]

good point

[thick temple]

a losing battle

[wicked solstice]

sda

[livid gulch]

I prefer to ask rudely

[wicked solstice]

sad

[wispy bluff]

On a side note: is something wrong with R4's Bs?

No one is playing them

[wicked solstice]

i mean some people hate R4B3 for no reason

[wispy bluff]

I see As, i see Cs, i even see the goddamn E... But no Bs.

[wicked solstice]

idk I think they're generally pretty cool

[analog flicker]

Level2hard

Igiveupwithouttrying

Orgetskillissued

[wicked solstice]

cope

[analog flicker]

Well

Outside of the softlocks

[unreal crystal]

i hate b3 cause secondary and main are boring

[analog flicker]

Becausegamedevhard

[unreal crystal]

i like b1 and b2 tho

[analog flicker]

R4boring

It just ain't the same

[unreal crystal]

a lot of r4 is very boring anyway yes

[analog flicker]

Jish

I dare you be loud after 10

[sharp owl]

where do i put the copied code in game?

[wispy bluff]

in the Main Menu (rundown tab) a little red button should pop on the left

There's a screenshot with example in #how-to-matchmake

[analog flicker]

Note. It should be the 2nd red button at the bottom of the list to the left.

I've had some guys thinking the tutorial button is it.

[sharp owl]

looks like it's not showing

do i need to enable it somehow?

[wispy bluff]

i don't think so, it should just work

[signal plaza]

b3 so good though

apart from main

[modern coral]

B3 is the peak of GTFO's level design

[unreal crystal]

ok ray lets get you to bed

[signal plaza]

uhhh I’d argue R6D4 was better

just too buggy

ahead of its time

[modern coral]

Hopefully they'll remaster it in Cyberheist.

[pine root]

I LOVE

B3

[formal ember]

does an alarm start when i scan the overload hsu objective in r4c3?

[burnt flume]

yep

should be 4 chargers every 45 seconds

[formal ember]

ok

guess ill save it for last then

[mint light]

last last? or after sec ?

[burnt flume]

there's no bulkhead key in main, so if you're going to do prisoner efficiency you'll need to do overload before main

[mint light]

👆

[formal ember]

wait that bulkhead key room doesnt open unless i scan the hsu?

[burnt flume]

yea, its under lockdown

[formal ember]

o no

[mint light]

yep

I think you locked yourself

did you do sec already ?

[formal ember]

no we did overload first

[mint light]

thats gon be a long error

[formal ember]

but he says i have to do it for pe?

[mint light]

yeah obv

[burnt flume]

you can go extreme -> overload -> main

as long as you have a bulkhead key to open each objective

[mint light]

theres a bulk in sec

[formal ember]

ok.. so gotta do secondary first

[burnt flume]

ah right it's called secondary now

[mint light]

so you go sec, ovl, main

[mint light]

you CAN do both

ovl, sec, main can be done

[formal ember]

but its hard. yeah lmao

SIGH

[mint light]

but it means charger error through sec and main

gl !

[formal ember]

do you think its doable or should i restart

[mint light]

full team ?

[formal ember]

yes

[tardy marsh]

why cant i find a team for the first mission

[mint light]

good coordination?

[formal ember]

yes

[tardy marsh]

literlaly matchmaking for over 5 min

nobody

[mint light]

use lfg channels, no one uses ingame MM. so its ded

#how-to-matchmake

#lfg-beginners

[mint light]

then you COULD do it.

[formal ember]

k:)

[mint light]

it has been done, but you are in for a ride

[rose nova]

just some advice for when u go to lfg channels
ask to not be carried, be sure to do the tutorial first [Training] in case u havent, start on rundown 1 and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur vc

[serene tinsel]

yo all the voice chanals are gone

[pine root]

Gtfo is over didn’t you know

[serene tinsel]

lmao

but acually

where are they?

[pine root]

Go to the top of the discord

There is a channel and roles button

You can enable them there

[serene tinsel]

ok

did that but still no chanls

[pine root]

Oh

You have NMMA

You need to contact mod contact

[serene tinsel]

what does nmma mean

[pine root]

No match making access

I think

[serene tinsel]

alight then ill fix this

[haughty heath]

damn sauce got his freedom of speech revoked

[pine root]

Yup wonder what happened

[eternal onyx]

So if I'm a beginner player do I go to lfg beginners and just jump into some random channel or do I post here first?

[rose nova]

hello, um if u wanna create a lobby yes join any GTFO VC and post ur invite in #lfg-beginners followin the #how-to-matchmake instructions

if u wanna join a lobby, join their vc invite in their LFG message

and then copy the lobby code, go into gtfo, and a button on the left should appear sayin 'join lobby from code' or somethin

and u join

[eternal onyx]

Okay just trying to wrap my head around this

[rose nova]

its oke

yeah gtfo chats arent really needed for LFG

only the, LFG channels and the VC

[elfin osprey]

yay

MET A FUKING HACKER THAT WAS STREAMING

OH YES, WHEN U HAC AND U FRECKING STREAM

[rose nova]

um yeah there was one on twitch

but well if u found em here its

7 times easier to report it

[elfin osprey]

the guy gtfo name is N

A FUCING HACKER THAT STREAM

AND PEOPLE FRECKING ENJOY THAT STUFF

yay, twitch has a frecking problem

[modern coral]

Not necessarily their responsibility to my knowledge.

Not sure it would even be against the rules to cheat in CS:GO on-stream.

[pine root]

People are allowed to stream themselves cheating

Just bad manners LOL

[rose nova]

yeah its just the audience usually
rip em apart
think of that girl that had wall hacks on csgo

[pine root]

it depends on the audience. But if you cultivate one around your skill at a game

It will effect you

[elfin osprey]

how tha hec is hacker allow to stream?

[pine root]

Anyone is allowed to stream

[elfin osprey]

hacking to ruined someone day dont allowed

[pine root]

Cheating in lfg isn’t allowed but other than that

Idk if anyone would really care

[elfin osprey]

no like

why do hackers are allowed to stream

they are basiclly making the game down

[pine root]

?? I don’t see how

[elfin osprey]

they make people think that hack is fun and make everything easy

[rose nova]

if their own group like knows it doesnt really matter, if they r hackin like lfg w/o tellin anyone sure its bad then

[pine root]

I mean that is a pretty confident answer about what people think

[elfin osprey]

if hack dont get ban, they would think that no one care about hack

[pine root]

No one’s really does care about hacks

It is a pve game

[elfin osprey]

but they ruined other people day by hacking and thought it was funny

[pine root]

That is the part that is annoying.

But I think it is more about the ruining peoples day thing rather than the hacking thing

[elfin osprey]

maybe

idk

they can just run up to every scout, wake them all up, wake 5 room up and ruined everyone day

[pine root]

Yup but this just be game you will survive

Go on a nice walk come back and go crazy

[elfin osprey]

im gonna go get a coffee

[gray root]

anyone need 1?

[elfin osprey]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[mystic bane]

yoo im new i got a headset but no mic rn im looking to play a game with people

havent had any luck yet

[rose nova]

dont use ingame matchmakin if u have been tryin there, it sucks

use the lfg channels up here

[sharp owl]

R4E1? i just wanna say

crap

what the hell was that lv

but funny tho

[rose nova]

hilarious :]

[normal lake]

if your new i recommend looking for new players and avoid getting carried, its more fun that way, but just a word of warning, this game is damn near impossible to play without a mic

[rose nova]

i woukdnt agree that is impossible, but a mic its useful

[normal lake]

yeah not impossible just "damn near"

most people dont wanna play with someone who dont have a mic for starters, and even if you got a group who didnt mind it makes it harder to communicate by quite a large margin

[mystic moss]

nah comms are overrated, the only thing you need to communicate is where the 4 use tool is

[normal lake]

man i sure do love when my one buddy goes down at any point, and then when revived no matter the situation is afk for atleast 30 seconds

i remember my friend reviving him while being the last one alive trying to prevent a wipe and friend just sits there and then dies again

bro never says when hes alt tabbing

[mystic moss]

that's your issue, you have expectations and trust in your partner

[normal lake]

one of the goofiest wipes ive ever had admittedly pretty funny

[hollow valley]

Hello there

[pine root]

Voxy the man who runs away the second anything goes bad

[normal lake]

if other buddy revived anyone else we prob would have been good is the funniest part

[hollow valley]

is someone want to play now?

[normal lake]

check the lfg channels

[hollow valley]

im on channel 26

[normal lake]

this @hollow valley

[mystic moss]

duo is literally solo for me but I have an extra guy to buy me extra time while I grab the 4 use kiting med

[normal lake]

you sound like a fun person to do a duo with

[hollow valley]

sure, i posted a link on that channel

but no one entered u,u

[normal lake]

idk how long it usually takes since i dont use lfg

may be the map your playing

[mystic moss]

I will abandon you the moment I see more than 6 strikers

[hollow valley]

the first one R1A1

[pine root]

He is

[normal lake]

also could be time of day, idk what percentage of players are in the u.s

[hollow valley]

im new at this game

[pine root]

You always win

But you have to kiss the ground for 15 minutes

[normal lake]

you should be good to play with bots for the first few levels

but def want some players later on

[mystic moss]

be sure to watch the 40 minute guide videos

[hollow valley]

mmm how i can put bots to try

oh i found the way

thanks

[normal lake]

@hollow valleyi def recommend looking at some short guides online on how to control the bots otherwise they can definitly be a pain in the ass

its not to complicated but the game doesnt give much of a tutorial

then again this game doesnt teach you anything

it just throws you into the cross fire

[hollow valley]

thanks

[desert badger]

hi guys im new here

[mint light]

#how-to-matchmake

[desert badger]

thanks

[mint light]

#lfg-beginners

[mint light]

I know what you were looking for 😏

[desert badger]

ahahaa

thanks

[mint light]

Post for R1A1 and peeps should join ya

[livid gulch]

dw all he needs is a pencil to win a level

[mint light]

Indeed he does

[desert badger]

thanks

[mint light]

👍

[vague kernel]

есть кто из русских кто хочет поиграть в gtfo на пиратке

[little iron]

я хочу но не на пиратке, ия школота)

[vague kernel]

по факту если адекватно ведешь себя всем будет без разницы сколько тебе лет

харош

[little iron]

у тебя пиратка, у меня ориг, мы вообще сможем поиграть?

[vague kernel]

неа

у меня стим не казахский купить игру никак не могу

да и деньги тратить

распродажу ждать

надо

[little iron]

понял

кстати сейчас скидка 30%, но все равно дороговато

[vague kernel]

приемлемо но суть в том что если даже купишь играть то с кем

[little iron]

в этом главная проблема, поиск русских мне кажется вообще такая себе идея, проще уже на англе разговаривать

[vague kernel]

ну хз хз

[little iron]

А тут же можно по идее просто залетать в каналы голосовые?

[vague kernel]

наверное

недавно зашел

по ссылке внутри игры

[little iron]

понял

[modern verge]

What

[last parrot]

the invasion

[rapid fog]

Does hacking ability influence the creation of uplinks at terminals`?

[sudden mortar]

italiani?

[visual lily]

you guys think with the fact of bots being present there is less people lfging ?

[grizzled bison]

There's less people lfging because they're waiting for me to post a lobby code 💅💅💅

[wispy bluff]

No, it only affects the hacking minigame (makes the blue areas that you need to hit larger).

[dark temple]

Ребят кто только начал играть недавно? нужны + 2 человека

[wispy bluff]

What happened to highlighted communities?

[mint light]

they still there ?

[wispy bluff]

i cant find it, at least the hashtag cant

[mint light]

#hc-europe

[muted panther]

Hey guys

[mint light]

hello m8

[muted panther]

I just bought this game

[mint light]

I see: #how-to-matchmake and #lfg-beginners

[muted panther]

Ok thx

[elfin osprey]

also, do the tranning first

[magic nacelle]

tranning

[vague kernel]

на пиратке? лицухе?

[full roost]

Mfw you can’t make the bots pick up med/ammo kits

Just died during my first game

[little creek]

I beat R2C1 yesterday finally!

[full roost]

I don’t know what that means yet but congratulations anyway

[little creek]

Thank you! It's Rundown #2 and the first C level.

Also I believe the bots can pick up meds and ammo. If you ping the cabinet but dont pick it up they should pick them up.

Someone more experienced could prove me wrong though

[full roost]

Oooh I get you. And oh if that’s the case then I’m dumb because I was trying to ping the item itself

[wet mica]

Just walk near the item then walk away

[little creek]

Yeah you can only ping the box / locker.

[wet mica]

they'll usually grab it then

[full roost]

Ah

[wet mica]

If you're too close to the item they won't bother

[full roost]

Maybe they were then and I just wasn’t noticing. I died and that cannot possibly be my fault. /s

Huh, the more I know ty

[untold ravine]

The bots will pickup resource packs so long as you aren't near the resource pack

[thick temple]

but you can't tell them which you want them to carry between a few different ones

or when to use them

[sharp siren]

Please read my feeback section on bots ty very much

[modern verge]

They like using the medipacks the most, since they tend to strafe in front of your gunfire

[untold ravine]

kindly direct that to Calle

[fair escarp]

would it be possible to add a command like "carry the objective" but be like "carry the resources" when close to a locker? that overwrite whatever they are carrying so they switch out

[sharp siren]

They just need lower the treshhold of giving out resources 😔

[thick temple]

what if there's multiple packs in the locker

[sharp siren]

Theyll pick medi

[fair escarp]

medi is the least important when playing with bots yeah

[sharp siren]

its better

i cringe when i see people micromanage the resources

in the sense of literally jumping of cliffs to get fall damage

so a bot can use the medi

ammo usage its the least of your worries with bots

because their so efficient at shooting

[eternal maple]

Which isn't always good

Sometimes you just gotta magdump

[livid gulch]

the people hated Jesus cause he told the truth

more people probably waiting for a specific lobby rather than posting it themselves

[sharp siren]

They do magdump

[elfin osprey]

techniclly, i wait for bread, u, dj, nik, eva, jish, ray,... to post a code

but usually i would be 5 second late

[full roost]

I’ve failed the first mission twice

Enjoying it though

[elfin osprey]

did u learn anything from it?

[full roost]

I’ve learned that you can sort of cheat their detection stuff you don’t need to stop immediately when they perk up, and I understand the whole searching idea a bit more

So a little

[elfin osprey]

go back there and learn more

but yes, u dont need to stop immediately

they have 4 stage

[full roost]

I’ve been stopping at the point where they’re pulsing

[elfin osprey]

sleeping, streching they body because of the over sleeping, yawning and then punch u in the face because u wake them up

[elfin osprey]

very noice

now go back there and learn more

[full roost]

I’d never be rude enough to wake em up

Yessir

[silent grotto]

If a player with “N” as their username joins ur lobby, kick or leave. He’s hacking

[thick temple]

report them to @foggy plank

[static schooner]

hey im new here how tf do i join a game. like i know how just no ones joining?? is match making just ass??

[haughty raptor]

anybody encountered cell in a wall in R4C3? if so, was it invalid ping or just scuffed item spawn?

[pine root]

Scuffed item

You can get it tho

The bot can pick it up through the wall

just have a player leave and get them to grab it for ya

[haughty raptor]

will ping of the cell be enough, or do I need to command him too? (not playing with bots much)

[pine root]

Press q

Go to objective

Then tell them to pick up the objective item when your close enough

You have to be in overload zone else cell isn’t loaded

[haughty raptor]

thanks man, wouldn't guessed it could work like that, you deserve a GTFO medal

[pine root]

#gtfo-media message

This is what happened when we ran into it

[pine root]

Dw there are other soft locks in the game some have ways out I have been in most of them

Ping me if you get into one lol

[haughty raptor]

then I consider myself a lucky person, that in 1k hours I only lost sentries couple of times, when they fell through the floor et cetera

[full roost]

3rd fail

It’s after collecting the final sample and they just start flooding you, can’t seem to make it past that

[mint light]

lfg channels. ingame MM is not being used by the community

[static schooner]

yeah i saw that after i posted that reading it now

[mint light]

👍

[junior latch]

i dont think ive ever posted a lobby code for lfg on this server in my life

[pine root]

I hide my codes in riddles

Every message I send has a code in it

[ashen ether]

Hi! Here I am, very late to the train evidently. Just went through the tutorial, twice

[pine root]

Nice

[ashen ether]

thrice, almost. It wasn't a very bright idea to play this game on a (slightly) weaker laptop, pc fares a bit better

[burnt flume]

Yeah unfortunately the game isn't the greatest for framerates

[ashen ether]

third time's the charm. Managed to squeeze out stable 60+, that's a win for me

I wonder what's this game's community compared to DRG. I just hope that I won't get assaulted due to "incorrect loadouts")

[elfin osprey]

No u dont, but i still wait for it

[elfin osprey]

Im bad at solving riddle

[pine root]

Depends on what your doing

And who you are playing with

For a- e tier there are things that are nice to have but nothing is required

[elfin osprey]

I play with 40 fps, package loss, fps drop, desycn

And on a laptop and with wifi, somehow i still complete almost all of yhe level

[burnt flume]

For the most part nobody will yell at you for loadouts, but people will plead with you not to take certain weapons because they don't do much

Or rather they're entirely outclassed and don't really have a place

[ashen ether]

That sounds harsh, but I guess if you're here, then I won't have any problems. I have around 40 fps on my laptop too

[pine root]

yup besides some of the funny maps you will be fine

[ashen ether]

thanks for the advice. Well, mostly I'd like to just test everything out and I'll probably arrive to my optimum on my own. Most likely it won't be trash) I do haz5 solo in drg from time to time, if that means anything

[elfin osprey]

Oh, and also hackers too

So yea, unless u somehow got a worst laptop than me, 40fps is enough

[burnt flume]

I have not yet had a hacker in any pub I've done

[pine root]

Yup I am sure you will get far

Gl gl

[burnt flume]

However there is always room for man-made skill issues beyond human comprehensive

[elfin osprey]

My 5th time maybe

[ashen ether]

thanks mate, same to you too!

[elfin osprey]

R3d1, r7d1, r4a3

Thats where i met hacker

[ashen ether]

damn, bots are so unwieldy

[winged narwhal]

Bots take some getting used to

You need to adapt to how bots play

For example I recommend giving them decent range automatics, because they tend to fire from too far for most shotguns to work (and they also tend to friendly fire, so automatics won't hurt you that much)

[honest pewter]

I just wish I could tell the bots to pick up specific supplies/consumables

Otherwise my experience with them has been alright

[winged narwhal]

Yeah I would like a bit more control over what they do with resources

But if I'm playing with bots and I have more than just sentries, say a mine deployer and 2 sentries, I will always try to carry the tool refills myself just because otherwise they'd fill the mines as much as they can before the sentries are picked up

[full roost]

Finally did R1A1

Took 4 attempts lmao

[little ridge]

Barring the "doesn't enter the scan" stuff, I feel like they already have enough bonuses to balance what they lack tbh

Sure some things are plain stupid like them trying to heal the player during a wave instead of shooting

[winged narwhal]

I won't argue that they're powerful

I just want a little more control

[little ridge]

I'd just add a "stay in this room" command and call it a day

[winged narwhal]

Yeah that would be nice too

[daring flax]

Bots are nice until you want them to do anything but shoot lmao

[wispy bluff]

pretty much, yeah

[ashen ether]

that's exactly my problem with them

[wispy bluff]

they are turrets that follow you

[ashen ether]

like, a couple times I'd like to have some melee coordination, but alas

[wispy bluff]

To be fair devs that tried. It was kinda broken - the game basically played itself.

[ashen ether]

i take spear for nearly guaranteed one-shot, and all the rest take cudgels for making quick work of accidental alerted enemies, or just those too close to my target

[wispy bluff]

No game developer wants that.

[ashen ether]

yup, coop is almost always better than bots I guess

[wispy bluff]

It doesnt matter which melee bots use, btw

For them its just skins, basically

they all operate like its still a hammer

Programming different melee behaviors was too much i guess

[wild galleon]

yo guys, short question.

Do sentrys also do bonus damage on weak points??

[pine root]

Back no

Headshot yes

[wild galleon]

and occiput?

[pine root]

Occiput is just back dmg and head dmg combined

If the back is no then you only get value from the head

[wicked solstice]

YO

wait Schaeffer actually said he's getting the fuck out

no shot

[pine root]

He said the thing

[wicked solstice]

I'm DYING

[modern coral]

RESIST

[wicked solstice]

nOOO

[wild galleon]

And what about weapons?
Do they also have only multipliers on head and tumor?

[wispy bluff]

Everything deals extra damage on headshots.
Turrets are the only damage sources excluded from flanking damage (to remove the "turrets shooting enemies from the back" meta and encourage putting turrets in the face of incoming waves).
Everything else still deals extra from the back.
Different weapons have different headshot multipliers. For example weapons like Pistol, Bullpup and Precision rifle deal a lot more extra damage on headshots.
Chargers (big black variants of enemies) do not have a headshot multiplier. Their heads are just props and shooting them brings no obvious tactical utility (i think they staggered when their head pops or something like that, but that's it).

[coarse grail]

Tumours also count as weakpoints. And different enemies have different damage multipliers on their weakpoints