gtfo-chat

[lofty grotto]

Just like how it’s too much for me to try and relearn how to hear ingame

[shut vapor]

Just listen 5head

[lofty grotto]

I just abandoned all attempts after first try on R6D1 myself

I cannot handle the ambience and horror that is being heard

[shut vapor]

I can't handle the bs that is my teammates killing me on Extract multiple times

[lofty grotto]

Oof

Used to be fun during R6. Now not so much

[shut vapor]

I'm not having a lot of fun replaying old content I've done before, r1,2,3 were fine because i started in r4

It's cool that the levels are more good now but man the wait for r8 is long

Tomorrow after i finish d2 and e1 i go back to runescape and celeste

[primal harness]

Any one getting fps drop or less fps in R4 compare to other rundown?

[pine root]

yes

issue when maps get big

[primal harness]

Yeah

[wicked solstice]

if you've dropped into several levels, try restarting GTFO

otherwise idk

[pine root]

there is some bad offenders

c2 overload secondary

[unreal crystal]

They’re just big levels with a lot of stuff going on

[pine root]

pretty bad

[primal harness]

Any good graphic settings for fps boost?

[pine root]

low

[faint pumice]

true i hate getting shot in extract!

[pine root]

@unreal crystal r u playing

[unreal crystal]

I’m going to sleep

[pine root]

sad

no worries

[topaz lichen]

did r4b1 change since old r4?

[burnt flume]

objectives are the same, tiles are different

[sullen steppe]

autopistol seems really good

great at finishing, amazing at holding waves back

really good with the burst sentry

[wicked solstice]

yeah

basically the equivalent of a handheld autosentry

[sullen steppe]

heavy assault rifle seems a bit better

[wicked solstice]

YES

[sullen steppe]

i don't know how competitive it is but its a easy to use, easy to bring weapon

[wicked solstice]

"competitive" is a relative term

but it's a lot nicer to use now

[sullen steppe]

ease of use counts for a lot

[vestal crystal]

har was useable with the shit recoil. if its back to r6 recoil then its "good" now

[sullen steppe]

other specials are better than they were in R6

hence the competitive comment

i like it though

throws out lead quick

feels beefy

arbalist seems good too

[vestal crystal]

the only special that's better than its r6 counterpart is the machinegun

[spare violet]

@hollow quarry I’ve slept now

[sullen steppe]

yeah, thats what i'm saying

[spare violet]

Heavy assault is actually useable now

Vs it is it being an actual handicap to your arms

The kick it had made it so inconsistent even if you’re used to guns with recoil

[vestal crystal]

it was useable before you just have to play it like autopistol

just 1 shot stagger things

[spare violet]

That’s fair, tbh if I wanted stagger I wouldn’t use heavy ar for it though

[vestal crystal]

30 stagger per reload is prety good in r2e1

[spare violet]

If I wanted stagger I’d use a shotgun but I can see why people would like the ar

[sharp siren]

just pull down your mouse

[lavish jay]

How about 305.37 stagger per reload with the veruta

[vestal crystal]

chargeup time makes staggering less comfortable for me, and the fact that it requires multiple shots

[lavish jay]

HAR deals 5.01 stagger per shot
Veruta deals 5.0895 per shot

[spare violet]

I do pull down sir, I’m a siege player I know how to control recoil lmao

[vestal crystal]

is this the buffed value of veruta stagger?

[lavish jay]

Yep

[spare violet]

y’all have already found the values goddamn

[lavish jay]

I have updated the wiki with them

[vestal crystal]

yeah i agree with u, if u want to spray HAR with the scufffed recoil u need to draw a pentagram with ur mouse, pulling down doesnt do enough

[spare violet]

Actual hero

[fossil rain]

god damn you work fast

[lavish jay]

Shoutouts to @gusty burrow for finding the actual funny numbers

[spare violet]

One day I’ll have those numbers memorized lmao

I just haven’t been bothered

[sharp siren]

Once the game fully releases 🙏

[lavish jay]

(all of the sentry numbers on the wiki are probably inaccurate af though)

[spare violet]

Sentry has been changed so many times over the last couple months so

[lavish jay]

(no idea where the actual numbers for them are)

[wicked solstice]

wait the veruta does 300 per reload???

jesus

[lavish jay]

Yes

[spare violet]

Surprisingly yes yeah

Shit does WORK

[wicked solstice]

what'd it do before like 200?

[lavish jay]

210.6

[spare violet]

I’m not a machine gun type of person but, it’s one hell of a buff

[wicked solstice]

O_o

[sharp siren]

The wiki should be streamline a little bit imo

[lavish jay]

(had 1x stagger)

CBA lol

[spare violet]

I’d love for that but it would require a pretty large overhaul at this point

[vestal crystal]

bd when ur r4 feedback video coming out

[spare violet]

Maybe I’ll get to it eventually as a side project

[sharp siren]

I literally just finish

the rundown

[vestal crystal]

i thoguth u were gonna say "I literally just finish recording the video"

[sharp siren]

I dont mean the whole thing, i just meant like streamlining the weapon stats

[spare violet]

Oh you do yt bd?

[lavish jay]

just don't break the maths in Template:WeaponInfo pls 😇

[sharp siren]

Most people just wanna see the damage total ammo and the stagger value and pres damage

the rest its just eye candy

[spare violet]

I’ll make sure to not touch it unless I absolutely know where things go

[pine root]

SO

like in 10

[storm quartz]

Fall off is nice too

[fossil rain]

ammo refill too

[spare violet]

Also has anyone tested high cal changes?

[storm quartz]

It's just ammo

[spare violet]

I wanna know if it’s worth putting it on

Yeah it can make a difference in that guns case though

[sharp siren]

its still the same but with more ammo

[lavish jay]

3 bullets (or it was 2 I forgor)

(wow)

[storm quartz]

you have to deal with the new 5 mag reload on empty and starting a map

[sharp siren]

in 10 what

[wicked solstice]

10

[storm quartz]

decades

[wicked solstice]

simply 10

[sharp siren]

10

[lavish jay]

The concept of 10

[fossil rain]

why do people run the high caliber pistol anyway?

[wicked solstice]

it sounds nice

[sharp siren]

good 1 shots, really nice damage

easy to use

[wicked solstice]

nice cracking noise

[lavish jay]

dual pistols

[vestal crystal]

because they want to do what revolver does but cant aim

[wicked solstice]

true

[storm quartz]

They want old BC vibes

[modern coral]

Easy to use, capable of some niche utility due to high single-shot damage.

[wicked solstice]

that's why I ran it

:(

actually no I ran it bc I wanted to one tap chargers on R7E1

but it doesn't do that anymore

[vestal crystal]

no shotgun sway fix 😦

gotta still use r2modman then

[sharp siren]

I love shooting from the side when pulling my gun

i totally didnt get licked 3 times because of it

[wicked solstice]

reminds me of that halo mod

the one shotgun where you shooot sideways

bc the barrel is bent

[storm quartz]

Me pissing

[spare violet]

Ah so high cal is an actual nothing burger change

I’ll just keep using revolver

[vestal crystal]

[sharp siren]

[modern coral]

Real question is where HEL Gun falls next to CS and the MGs.

[ivory pier]

[wicked solstice]

honestly I think the nerf isn't that bad, just gonna take getting used to

[sharp siren]

still its own category

[modern coral]

Nawwww

[sharp siren]

its the same but slower

[modern coral]

RoF was a huge deal for it imo

[sharp siren]

you just gotta emphasize funneling a tad more

like your suppose to

[modern coral]

Every single HEL Gun weakness, you can compensate by just shooting more.

[ivory pier]

they're gonna turn it into another hel rifle

[modern coral]

But now it's capped.

[ivory pier]

where you get to wait and stare at the enemy

while your gun is loading

[spare violet]

LOL

[sharp siren]

its a charge up for a reason

[spare violet]

Tbh hel rifle I’ve enjoyed

[sharp siren]

watch your positioning

[spare violet]

Love it on reactors and such

I wanna try it out on r2e1

See how much shit I can just murder in 1 shot of a wave

[wicked solstice]

i mostly play guns for the feel and aesthetics of the gun ngl

[sharp siren]

since penetration its bugged then its gonna be a roll of the dice!

[wicked solstice]

only time I change it up is on a really difficult level

[spare violet]

Hel autopistol my beloved

[wicked solstice]

wat

[burnt flume]

uh probably 4 because pierce is broken iirc

[spare violet]

Yeah pen is broken dakstar

[wicked solstice]

💀

[spare violet]

Sometimes it just doesn’t

[wicked solstice]

since when?

[sharp siren]

forever

[ivory pier]

pull up the chart beep

[spare violet]

A while ago

[wicked solstice]

BRUH

[sharp siren]

ah hell naw bruh

[wicked solstice]

there's a chart?

[burnt flume]

I think it's kinda been broken forever

[lavish jay]

👀

[wicked solstice]

bruh watch this be the fabled hel weapon nerf

[spare violet]

Dakstar there’s a chart for everything in this fucking game LMAO

[wicked solstice]

u can just call me dak

[pine root]

WAIt

[burnt flume]

just one of those things that has never worked (looking at you, doorbug)

too many daks

[wicked solstice]

waiting

[spare violet]

alrighty, my brain just has another friend named Dak

[lavish jay]

what's the pierce chart?

[wicked solstice]

oh lol

[vestal crystal]

can it still double tap charger scouts?

[modern coral]

Good question.

[spare violet]

Dakhuza

[sharp siren]

if you you dont misclick you should be able too

[burnt flume]

I think it can, but it's more difficult

[spare violet]

Yeah just don’t fucking miss and be fast

[ivory pier]

macro to lower the entry barrier 👍

[storm quartz]

Set your fire to scroll wheel you'll make it that way

[burnt flume]

me when blackhops

[spare violet]

Wes shut up

[storm quartz]

Macros in any game

[wicked solstice]

bruh why

looking at the chart

XD

[burnt flume]

where is chart

[ivory pier]

u wanna know how i completed R4C1 secondary

[spare violet]

The gtfo community will but numbers on anything

[ivory pier]

[storm quartz]

I know

I saw B3 on kenny's stream

[wicked solstice]

wesley used the forbidden Biden Blast technique

[ivory pier]

but u agree B3 is the worst level tho

[burnt flume]

dm me if the level has changed that much

or spoiler chat

[spare violet]

I’m up to B1 and my god

[storm quartz]

I like the first S1 second could have been a cluster S1

[spare violet]

My fucking brain

[storm quartz]

Everything is just slow on B3

[burnt flume]

B3 is a mission

[storm quartz]

Budget surge scans two big S1s

[spare violet]

budget surge

mcdonalds surge scan

[storm quartz]

Mcdonalds works faster than those scans

[spare violet]

LMAO

[burnt flume]

S1 moment

[spare violet]

R7C1 S1 scan be like

R7C1 gives me ptsd on that s1 from watching new players do it

[burnt flume]

oooooh yeah that s1

watching newer/less experienced players is an experience

[spare violet]

I love new players but since they dont know things like spawn mechanics it tends to be a bloodbath on that scan

having to constantly res people up because they get overwhelmed once the hybrids show up

[leaden leaf]

sorry if it has been asked but any idea of when we can unlock cosmetics ? we'll have to redo whole R4 from A1 ?

[wicked solstice]

O_o

don't remind me

[spare violet]

Oh Dak did you have

an experience

LMAO

[wicked solstice]

took me 2 tries on my first clear and then 27 on my second

oh wait no lol

[spare violet]

OHNO LMAO

[wicked solstice]

we just didn't beat it

had like the WORST spawn rng in the zones after the scan

[spare violet]

Oh are you talking thunderdome scan

[wicked solstice]

half the time I'd run in and get meleed by a big striker thru the floor

[spare violet]

[wicked solstice]

we ended up dumping the clear and getting it for our 4th another day

after like 30 or so resets

[modern coral]

Next patch, sometime tomorrow probably.

[wicked solstice]

i stg there were so many sleepers in those last few zones

[spare violet]

mine deployer my beloved on those zones

run through close door let them eat a mine

[wicked solstice]

if you already cleared a level you won't get a drop from it

[leaden leaf]

even if i redo the lvl ?

[spare violet]

yes

you only get drip on first complete

[leaden leaf]

oh damn

[spare violet]

so if its not your first complete no drip unless 10cc decide to do something about it

which sucks ass but

[leaden leaf]

alright it does suck but thanks for answering!

[spare violet]

npnp

[leaden leaf]

how likely is it that they'll do something ?

cleared up to B1 so it's not that bad but still

[spare violet]

I affects like

2% of the player base... so i dont know tbh

but its the 2% of the playerbase that clearly plays the most

so its just

cmon yk

[leaden leaf]

yeah

guess we'll see

[spare violet]

Im glad for me I got stuff since I started late R6 and didnt get a full complete on R6

[storm quartz]

Just alt + F4 before completion

[spare violet]

but I missed pink so not worth :(

[wicked solstice]

XD

[iron elm]

yo if the host leaves in the expedition survived end screen, do i need to alt f4 to leave

[wicked solstice]

the ztriw incident

[iron elm]

and if i do will i get credit for completing the mission

[burnt flume]

you either lose out on your cosmetics, or your completion score/ability to host later levels

lose-lose situation

[spare violet]

you will get complete

[iron elm]

tyvm

[wicked solstice]

or u wait a day

[delicate grail]

good day gtfo chat looking to see if folks have had a similar problem, anyone get [IP address] instead of the uplink address for R4B3 after doing optionals first

[spare violet]

and yes you can alt f4

[wicked solstice]

alt r4 more like alt f4

[burnt flume]

nah no way, probably worth chucking that in #1049599987878723635

not normal behaviour

[delicate grail]

probs will wondering if anyone else has had it

[wicked solstice]

that happened to R7B2 on release of ALT R1 iirc

[storm quartz]

That's an old bug iirc, some weird shit has to happen for the IP to not load

[wicked solstice]

problem is I think we were using a different tech support channel at the time

[spare violet]

R7B2 aka the worst level of the game

hate

burning hate

[delicate grail]

only issue is i was a dumbass bitch and didnt take screenshots

[wicked solstice]

not at all bad, just borin imo

[spare violet]

thats the reason

[delicate grail]

if you want bad look at r5b2

[spare violet]

like I consider R7D1 to be a bad level for, many reasons

but its not at least BORING

[wicked solstice]

"let's be real here"

[storm quartz]

3 door terminal could be fun if it was longer and different enemies

[delicate grail]

piss easy if you do main and a pain in the ass if you even consider pe

[wicked solstice]

"the spitters make the level gay"

thanks bd

[spare violet]

I can also literally skip charger thunderdome by simply TYPING FAST

LMAO

[ivory pier]

if you return to lobby while uplinks are being generated it breaks the game and you have to restart

so maybe you did that

[spare violet]

me when the 3 snatcher spawn

[burnt flume]

r5b2
because fetch quests, uplinks, and fetch quests in infectious fog are the most engaging objectives of all time

b2, not a2

[delicate grail]

i never did return to lobby, unless it was me returning to lobby durring the first spawn cuz i didnt have c-foam

[ivory pier]

yeh

[wicked solstice]

R5A2 is a spicy one too

[ivory pier]

that would exactly be it

[spare violet]

I AM WAITING FOR R5A2

I WISH TO SCREAM AT THE BULKHEAD DOOR

[delicate grail]

well fuck

[wicked solstice]

warning threat level nym

[burnt flume]

sorry
now it's a sector door with an oled screen

[ivory pier]

you can't do a quick return to lobby if you forgot something

if its an uplink level

[delicate grail]

well never knew that before

[storm quartz]

where my pre-release R5A2 Overload with 4 BBCs in it

[delicate grail]

fuck me i guess

[spare violet]

yeah its a little fucky wucky

[burnt flume]

no shadow giants?

[spare violet]

terminal objs tend to just brick sometimes

[ivory pier]

i dont think its been reported yet

[pine root]

Don’t tell them

It is funnier this way

[ivory pier]

xd

[wicked solstice]

inb4 they somehow buff the R5A2 overload room 😳

[spare violet]

Jish (real)

[spare violet]

give pmom

[pine root]

Nymm (fake)

[spare violet]

shit you right

[pine root]

I like the real imp

[delicate grail]

the sorry saps that just installed getting pile drived by the mom

[wicked solstice]

they should just make R5 like, absolute hell. GOOD DESIGNS, but just like

go nuts

[burnt flume]

i did not know about the uplinks and returning to lobby

[wicked solstice]

live up to the rep

[pine root]

Ngl team r4 maybe has some of my least favourite maps in the game

[spare violet]

R5 WITH STAMINA WITH PMOM WITH NERFED BC GO HMMMM

[modern coral]

Tbh if they keep R5 how it was that's good enough.

[spare violet]

[modern coral]

R5 kinda nutty.

[spare violet]

R5 from what ive heard is the kinda rundown I wanna play

it just kicks you in the balls

[burnt flume]

you know, I have a link for... wait no nevermind

[pine root]

Idk if alt r5 is gonna be good

[delicate grail]

yeah its fuck you the rundown

[wicked solstice]

yeah I hope a few things are better tho

[pine root]

Just more empty rooms

Very sad

[wicked solstice]

looking at u R5B1 EX

[quick sable]

Its not too crazy after nerfs and spawn changes

On release it was like “heres a room with 50 sleepers that you have to clear 3 times”

[ivory pier]

maybe they will delete R5D1 secondary 🙏

[spare violet]

my kind of fuckin rundown

I want my GTFO to ragdoll me

[quick sable]

And “your b tier error is 2 bbcs every 15 seconds good luck”

[storm quartz]

Those rooms were easy to clear with no stam tbh

[burnt flume]

Secondary bad, bad, only extreme

[spare violet]

wes you get a bonk on the head for saying secondary

extreme

high

extreme

overload

[ivory pier]

its secondary

[spare violet]

[ivory pier]

just like its a bullrush scout

[wicked solstice]

but that's just R1D1

[storm quartz]

Damn you not using the optionals preferred pronouns

[ivory pier]

the main objective is such a good improvement

and then secondary

[spare violet]

ima get the PE logo tattooed though :3

[storm quartz]

If only it was call secondary on release then switched to extreme

[spare violet]

tbh im fine with calling high main

as tbh

[burnt flume]

change for the sake of change

[spare violet]

it is the main obj

which makes sense

[burnt flume]

yeah it makes sense, but I do feel like calling high/extreme carry more gravity

[spare violet]

but extreme to me sounds way nicer than secondary

[rough robin]

Main and secondary makes more sense imo, but now 'overload' doesn't really fit

[spare violet]

WARNING THREAT LEVEL: OVERLOAD

[burnt flume]

main
secondary
tertiary
quaternary efficiency

[quick sable]

Extreme/overload maade more sense because one objective isnt necessarily harder

[spare violet]

I miss the constant warning noise in the sectors :(

[quick sable]

Maybe they were made with that intent, but its not always how it turned out

[ivory pier]

i think they should rename "prisoner efficiency" to "all at once"

[burnt flume]

and the proper bulkhead doors

[ivory pier]

[spare violet]

WARNING THREAT LEVEL: EXTREME

[storm quartz]

Goku enjoyer spotted

[spare violet]

I loved hearing it

[burnt flume]

like cmon give me big metal door that feels like something bad is trapped behind it

with a cornell industries™️ light fixture on the top right of the frame

[spare violet]

tbh I understand why the big doors exist

since they exist in the roll they can roll it when making a new tile

[ivory pier]

R4B3 all at once 3h completion (1h caca time)

[spare violet]

so sometimes you just get stuck with it, but as the devs you do have the ability to go an manually change it I would think

but its a lot of effort to go change it when its something that doesnt really effect the actual level too hard, minus some people being able to use the oled doors as a cheese to shoot through

[storm quartz]

Goku still holding on to the 11 minutes R3D1 time

[spare violet]

goddamn

I will say fuck R4A3s refinery tile though

shit had me screaming LMAO

[quick sable]

The one in extreme?

[spare violet]

nope just on the way to the bulkhead stuff

theres that one room that is just a complete dead end

[quick sable]

Oh okay. I dc’d this morning in my pe run and lost my shit trying to find out where I was

[spare violet]

big room that does literally nothing

LMAO

[quick sable]

Yeah that level is needleesly large

[spare violet]

the secondary tile isnt too bad

its just ehhh

[burnt flume]

That mission has always been a bit of a maze

[spare violet]

its a decent level though

[burnt flume]

Area P

[quick sable]

For an early pe it’s fine

[spare violet]

will say i wish the error wasnt like, baby

its like

"oh no, 2 strikers, whatever will I do"

and I just knife stab them

LMAO

[quick sable]

Theres one wave of like, 10+2 hybrids but thats probably part of the overlod obj

[spare violet]

A3s overload was

it existed

[quick sable]

Yup

[spare violet]

the floodgate command like

got thanos snapped

those enemies did not survive long

[carmine finch]

yo can anyone help me with r7c1 monster?

[winged narwhal]

I can in like 30-45 mins if you haven't found anyone by then

[winged narwhal]

still need a hand?

[wicked solstice]

🫱

[winged narwhal]

🫲

[sharp siren]

[dry leaf]

Anyone else enjoy soft locking themselves in R4B1?

[gray pilot]

No

[rose nova]

weird fascination for sure

[analog flicker]

I can't tell if HAR's reload is actually slower

[rose nova]

i dont think it is

[analog flicker]

or it's the fire rate making it seem even slower

[rose nova]

think its just the fire rate prob

[analog flicker]

it feels disgustingly slow

[rose nova]

is the same as ever o_o

[analog flicker]

oh well

I'll still use Arby or some other special weapon over it anyhow

[rose nova]

D:

[analog flicker]

but I will say it actually feels like a Heavy AR now

[rose nova]

:D

[analog flicker]

I'm just so used to the old fire rate

and then the reload feels like it's slowed down

this may also be habitual for me since I'm so used to Main AR reload animation being quick

but idk. feels off

[elfin osprey]

Didd anyone get to r4e1?

[wicked solstice]

yeah people full cleared like 8-10 hours after release

[hollow quarry]

This is good

[spare violet]

Now my schedules kinda fucked though LMAO

[fossil rain]

so can we get apparel from alt r4?

[sharp owl]

depends

did u clear the past 5 rundowns?

[fossil rain]

i have not

[sharp owl]

then yes u can

[mint light]

Ok I'm back, you can drop the update now so I can start R4. thanks 👍

[hollow quarry]

We were waiting for it

[mint light]

I know and I appreciate

[merry crypt]

Big thanks big man

[junior latch]

Guess what i did by accident before my first real R4A1 attempt

My friends were amused

[analog flicker]

Mine deployed the team in a team scan

[edgy matrix]

did mine deployer get shadow nerfed for blood doors?

my tripmine blew up as soon as the door was pulled, blowing up but killing nothing

[analog flicker]

Did you place it inside the little door hole?

[edgy matrix]

i placed it at my usual spot at the side

you can still clearly see the mine on the door

it's not like it's inside the door

it was on r4a3 overload, luckily i managed to still clutch it without any mines lol

[analog flicker]

Just one time? Or several tries?

[edgy matrix]

only got to one blood door so far on this patch, blood doors dont come as frequently till later on

which mission has a blood door near the start so i can test it?

[analog flicker]

Because blood door enemies sometimes spawn clipping through the door which triggers usually if you put your mine inside that little side pocket

[serene berry]

it's been happening more ever since R2 dropped or was it R1

[junior latch]

not rly

it happened back with r6 and r7 releases just as much

[pine root]

it feels like it is

tbh

maybe we just play more

[unreal crystal]

hard to say

Id assume it’s probably not changed

Cause it’s gonna be an enemy collision thing

I had big chargers clipping through normal doors and triggering mines back in r5 so

[junior latch]

thats why i personally say it isnt happening more. With all the speedruns on blood door levels weve only had this happen once

[unreal crystal]

I’ve seen it a fair few times recently but

I also barely played r6 and r7 LOL

[smoky torrent]

Hi all, has the problem with the clothing issue been fixed yet? Passed A1,A2. I still haven't seen the equipment.

[hollow quarry]

Patch is out NOW!

[meager olive]

:0

Did ya press the patch go out button

[mint light]

thx m8

Now I can put my day off to good use

[hollow quarry]

I'm not trusted with that button 🙂

[novel egret]

i have been summoned

[meager olive]

Dang

[river stump]

@hollow quarry so missed rewards cannot be given ever again?

[native zodiac]

as of rn nope

[river stump]

ahh k

[hollow quarry]

Ever is the longest word. But not right now.

The system is only coded for first clears

[river stump]

i see

and I assume reseting a player's progress is not feasiable?

can't imagine the work needed to do that just for missed cosmetics

[native zodiac]

there could potentially be added code for a dropdown that you can "claim" the cosmetics if mission clear is done and reward wasnt given

but even then idk how the bug worked as it could show as the players given the cosmetics so its harder to prove who had it and who didnt

[echo oyster]

Is there a way to reset ur rundown progress?

[native zodiac]

buying the game again

[sharp owl]

wow such a cool emote

where did u get it from?

i want to join that server and use that emote

[native zodiac]

some server idk where tho

think i should leave it

[sharp owl]

yeah it probably sucks

probably dead

the owner is a bozo

that only memes

[native zodiac]

that gets blown up by a mine

[sharp owl]

[native zodiac]

[echo oyster]

[native zodiac]

save me the bullets

[echo oyster]

I want my apparels

[native zodiac]

same

[echo oyster]

I been doin every single Rundown and all of the one time events to collect each thing

[native zodiac]

do you know if the code showed gaining the cosmetics on the accounts that did the levels early? im curious now

[native zodiac]

same

i just missed R5E1 due to being insanely busy with work school etc so ran out of time to beat it other than that every level was beaten

[hollow quarry]

Not really following

[echo oyster]

Or what if to check who had the R6 to Alt:R3 fully completed so those players could be rewarded with specific amount of how many they have lost by checking the extra amount of clears to the all added last rundown possible apparel amounts

[native zodiac]

so saying everyone who bet the levels prior and didnt recieve the rewards, would it show as the rewards already being "recieved" as its only on first time clears

[hollow quarry]

Depends if we can A) Can call that information from the player database in a satisfying way and B) that the cosmetic system having those options

[pine root]

yeah it is a flag. the game isnt built to remove the flag

[hollow quarry]

Don't have that specific insight

[native zodiac]

rip so much harder to resolve nvrmind

[wet mica]

So no rewards for missions already beaten? Oh well

[pine root]

at least for now

[native zodiac]

till patch that came out half an hour ago iirc

unless that patch was for some reason something else

[pine root]

by the end of gtfo i hope cosmetics are unlocked

[echo oyster]

Well it could be probably possible to check thr database then, as idk maybe there is also recording of when the database was updated to see which stuff updated between r4 release and patch on apparels section and use that information to give completionist the lost apparels bacl

[native zodiac]

i did A1 A2 A3 was most of the way through B1 then i realized pretty much

[echo oyster]

Or the easiest thing

Reset everyones apparel count of this rundown

And give everyone 12 apperals

As thats the amount of apparels u get

[native zodiac]

what so read the database between "release" and "patch" and everyone in that time frame gets apparel?

[echo oyster]

Yes

[native zodiac]

issue with that is it didnt effect those that started after R6

[echo oyster]

I have been working a bit on databases and I know it possible

[native zodiac]

so would have to be a reset of apparel like u said

[echo oyster]

But u need to have the time thing initialized as variable, which idk if they have done

[native zodiac]

or just somehow reset the "completion" list

[echo oyster]

Yeah or just reset for everyone

Im certain people wouldnt mind to play levels again

[native zodiac]

i wouldnt mind redoing the levels for the apparel

[echo oyster]

Anyways everyone complete everything after 1 week and then beg for more levels next 2 months

[native zodiac]

R4 and R5 are the 2 best rundowns with replayablility

R1,R2,R3 werent very special in anyway so everything was beaten pretty much in 1-2 attempts and was beaten day 1/day2

R6 and R7 were played far too much so kinda just a chore to play now

[echo oyster]

Yeah but u would only need to reset r4

[native zodiac]

yeah 100%

A tier is all of just over 2 hours to fully recomplete if u take it time

[echo oyster]

Yep

Its 40 min per mission

With P.E also

[native zodiac]

yeppers

if u know the route its all of 30 ish

[echo oyster]

Yep

[native zodiac]

i feel speed runners can maybe get that to 20-25 for pe if they plan everything right

[echo oyster]

So do u think they will try using database to try and give everyome the stuff back?

[native zodiac]

doubt

[echo oyster]

Sad

[native zodiac]

we can only hope tho

[echo oyster]

Yep

[latent turret]

is it at all possible to fix this splatter screen bug

[echo oyster]

Ill prob gonna wait for a week and see if any newer path comes out

[junior latch]

[native zodiac]

what splatter screen bug?

[junior latch]

the A level PEs will prob be done way quicker than that

[echo oyster]

I think it juts goes away after some time

[latent turret]

I get blood on the mask and the void just opens up

[echo oyster]

Yeah just wait

[latent turret]

or everything goes purple

[native zodiac]

A1 i think potential 15 mins

as its only 2 terminals and do main which is pretty quick

[junior latch]

A1 100% got done in 10 minutes
A2 PE got done in 13 in og for example
A3 PE in 15

[latent turret]

man how hasnt there been a fix or a way to disable this yet

i feel its so much more common all of a sudden

[junior latch]

i think both A1 and A3 will be quicker

A2 prob not, especially with some scans being longer

and stamina being noticeable on error alarms

[native zodiac]

mm

well ig we will see

the stamina is a huge dif from the og to this

[junior latch]

all 3 will prob be done in under 40 minutes together

[native zodiac]

just gotta manage it

[junior latch]

on the other hand. We have better strats and know where to go for stuff like OSIPs or Harddrives

[native zodiac]

facts

u can devide into 2 teams to do stuff as well

[junior latch]

Sadly due to team scans that rarely happens

[native zodiac]

yep

[junior latch]

youll mostly just rush in

A2 has some cool split up tho

in main

[native zodiac]

but thats about it

[junior latch]

theres 2 alarm doors and the 2 teamscans for the uplinks

[native zodiac]

ah facts

forgot about the spoiler stuff XD

would be handy if splitting up was an option for A1 tho

[junior latch]

will be for end of main since someone has to run to extract

[native zodiac]

yeah but thats the only time

[spare violet]

Glad the cosmetic thing has been fixed

[coarse grail]

So how is the difficulty in general compared to OG R4?

[visual lily]

easier

[sharp siren]

almost the sameish

[elfin osprey]

oh god

r4 is so scary

im not gonna do it alone

how tha fuc is just r4a1 they make it so frecking scary with really narrow corridor and stuff

[visual lily]

just wanted to say i have played till C1 nothing afterwards but so far it feels easier

[elfin osprey]

we have all of the technology so

it should feel alot easier

though, its still really scary trying to play alone

i need team motional support

[coarse grail]

Yeah its kinda hard to tell the difficulty when you played it a long time ago and improved a lot since then

[modern coral]

R4 just never been that hard.

[sharp siren]

if your asking if i personally found r4 hard then thats a no

if your asking comparing to the og on what the levels offer then readmy previous answer

simple

[wicked solstice]

pog glad it’s close to the og

time for my friends and I to die

[little ridge]

Not going to lie I'm going to say something controversial

[wicked solstice]

do it

[little ridge]

I think most of you are spoiled from playing with the same vet group and zoom zooming through stuff

It's a ME issue that I dont have a group but whatever

[wicked solstice]

i mean most of them have played the levels before

[celest egret]

Tbh I don't think that's that controversial of a statement. 👀

[sharp owl]

Like..i understand it's a game but one thing i simply can't understand...when you have a weapon with 60 rounds in magazine and 200 in your pockets, why the hell would you load 3 magazines into full capacity - 60 rounds, and only 20 rounds in the last one? That simply don't have any sense

[coarse grail]

I will always ask for relative difficulty on this server as all of the content is actually too easy(tm) 🙂

[junior latch]

its mostly that optionals make the missions harder than say other A tiers

[meager olive]

Sniper seems kinda useless idk

[analog flicker]

Me who carried my group. And when I went afk.

[wicked solstice]

O_O

[analog flicker]

I came back to the lobby screen

Was tragic

[wicked solstice]

are you mayhaps, not hitting the head

flashbacks to Woops doing R7C1

[wispy bluff]

Giant killer.

[analog flicker]

Sniper is probably the 3rd/2nd best teammate killer

[wicked solstice]

And boss killer too

[analog flicker]

R6D1

And no one has sniper

[wicked solstice]

yeah that too

[analog flicker]

[celest egret]

R6D1 Shotguns only when.

[wicked solstice]

if i bring scattergun some of the pellets have to hit, ok?

[wispy bluff]

Soon

[analog flicker]

I mean it's mainly the fact the || Kraken || is so far away nearly all weapons lose any significant damage outside of Sniper

[sharp siren]

i pub for 300 hours before making friends here

it is a ME issue

[analog flicker]

You got friends?

Iirc blk Dragon has a gf and can time travel

Shits crazy

[little ridge]

I still dont really have any fixed people I play with

And I've 1.4k

[wispy bluff]

Guys.
Windows 10 or 11.

[sharp siren]

10

[analog flicker]

9

[wicked solstice]

XP

[sharp siren]

Wait for win 1q to be updated

Shits wack

[wicked solstice]

for the sound effects

me when I choose my OS version for the OST

[analog flicker]

Return to PS2 Mini

[junior latch]

Sentry… or the gun?

[celest egret]

Sounds like gun to me.

[analog flicker]

Buckland sucks

Everyone: which buckland??

[junior latch]

[analog flicker]

Achtualllly I use the Drekker

[junior latch]

banned

[wicked solstice]

lol how did drekker make such a wack variety of guns tho

[celest egret]

I just read "Sniper sucks" and get flashbacks to my mates using it and complaining about it and I'm over here like, no shit, you're like a 50/50 At best whether you can hit the sleeping giant in the head.

[wicked solstice]

Rifle, thermal high power rifle, and then they fucking taped 5 shotguns together and were like “yeah that works”

[analog flicker]

Mastaba fans Tho

[wicked solstice]

Based revolver users

[junior latch]

the tankier the boss, the better sniper

it actually kinda sucks vs mom

[analog flicker]

Knife/Revolver

Mastaba Fixed Blade iirc

[wicked solstice]

Isn’t it ok if you aren’t host?

[junior latch]

hm? Nah sniper can only hit 1 tumor per shot

otherwise a client would 3 shot mom
(1k hp, 40 x 2 x 5 = 400 dmg per shot)

[wicked solstice]

Huh i thought non hosts had some sort of damage carry over

[analog flicker]

Tumor hp x6-8 (idk how many) = Mom hp

[wicked solstice]

yeah I seem to remember somebody saying non hosts could kill a birther popping one less tumor

idk could be smoking

[fair escarp]

That is the truth yes

[analog flicker]

Iirc overkill damage on tumors is just scrapped

(Then again this was regarding using special damage boosters way back when I heard it)

[fair escarp]

It's mainly due to the small desync between clients and host

[wicked solstice]

ok so i was kind of right

[fair escarp]

That small desync lets client over dmg tumor and it sustract it to the total hp

[analog flicker]

So basically host is fucked in terms of how many tumors they'd need to shoot if they were to be the main damage to tumors

[fair escarp]

Also some other funky stuff like host will have mom respond faster a little to their shots while client will have her stay still longer

That last one was a lot more apparent in r6 but still is there

[analog flicker]

Back in R6D2 when only host could see the real objective count

[wicked solstice]

Bruh I remember that

i don’t think I ever ended that level without tripping the scout zone

[fair escarp]

If you shot a mom as host with scattergun she would stop birthing and run away instantly while client she would just stay there leaving the client to easily take her down

[analog flicker]

Reminds me I should be foam if I played later today

[analog flicker]

Skill issue

[wicked solstice]

Bro I remember that

[analog flicker]

R6D4 insta kill the mom blood door

[wicked solstice]

i was always host and had an obsession with scattergun

[fair escarp]

That was the easiest way to make people understand how different host vs client was back in r6

Before sniper melee

[meager olive]

Gun

[wicked solstice]

._.

[analog flicker]

R6 was a trip with the desync bs

[fair escarp]

Cause sniper melee was introduced in a patch during r6

🙂

[analog flicker]

Sniper is very strong but it changes how efficient you have to be with melee/main weapon

As others have stated it's mainly a Giant/boss killer

Giants will be a 1 shot headshot with sniper

Take note. Neck shots on giant strikers can destroy the head but not count as headshot damage

[muted cypress]

Hey guys,
I think Arbalist might be better than Veruta

[wicked solstice]

y’all remember when woops was complaining that guns did no damage when he was hipfiring 3 sniper rounds into giants chests to kill them?

[junior latch]

woops?

[wicked solstice]

FFXIV streamer who occasionally played gtfo

[analog flicker]

Pain

[little ridge]

I want civvie11 to play gtfo with bots

[wicked solstice]

It was painful to watch

[meager olive]

Oh I c

[wicked solstice]

yeah

[meager olive]

Just I shot 3 bullets into a scout didn’t do shit

😭

Scammed

[wicked solstice]

did you hit the head?

[meager olive]

Yeah

[analog flicker]

Once the scout turns blue. It is immune to all damage for awhile

[wicked solstice]

uhhh

oh yeah that lol

[meager olive]

Oh

That’d be good to know

[analog flicker]

Also . Go for headshots

Sniper can't body a scout from the front

[wicked solstice]

it's like a tiny bit after the tentacles make that snap noise

[fair escarp]

If you see white hitmarkers that means you aint doing shit for dmg

[wicked solstice]

or no hit markers :3

[meager olive]

The forbidden spaghetti is scary

[wicked solstice]

not me whiffing half my shots

[analog flicker]

Just note. Sniper gets essentially 2x damage on headshots ontop of headshot body multipliers

[wicked solstice]

(and tumors)

[analog flicker]

Weakpoint but yeah

[wicked solstice]

sorry just had to throw that in there, yeah precision weakpoints

[analog flicker]

It's just because most weakpoints are heads

[lavish jay]

(2.0025x 😤)

[wicked solstice]

or whatever the fuck the flyer weakpoint is

[analog flicker]

Hence I stated essentially 2x

[analog flicker]

Never cared to actually look

[wicked solstice]

i see it as an eye

ik other people call it dumb shit

[lavish jay]

Can't forget that extra super important 0.100025 damage 😤

[analog flicker]

Well more like the hp/weakpoint multi

[analog flicker]

Imo those extra numbers are more for kill confirms because dmg rounding bug exists

[wicked solstice]

yeah

[analog flicker]

As rare as that bug is

[wicked solstice]

floating point errors

[analog flicker]

I've only encountered it once with melee

[fair escarp]

It was not rare back in og r4

Sniper wouldnt 1 shot giant

[analog flicker]

Full hammered a striker to the front body and he lived.

I then tapped him and he just keeled over

[wicked solstice]

reminds me of, I think it was Scaler's R6D3 clear

blew the head right off a shadow scout and it went immune and screamed

[fair escarp]

That is not the head. Was a neck shot

Neck kinda blow the head off but doesn't count as headshot

Top of torso does the same

[wicked solstice]

lmao

[desert frigate]

it's hilarious when i take the head off something with the bat but it was actually the neck and it's now a headless shadow scout

i don't think it transfers through text correctly so i'll explicitly say i'm being sarcastic

[analog flicker]

Take note. Shadow scouts have the model of a striker

[wicked solstice]

yeah ik ._.

[little ridge]

striker with bigger head iirc

[analog flicker]

[desert frigate]

big brain striker

[meager olive]

Darktide

😳

[analog flicker]

[meager olive]

Worse Vermintide

😭

[analog flicker]

Based

[meager olive]

Ikr

[analog flicker]

Vermintide is miles easier

[eternal maple]

Lmao it’s so cursed

[meager olive]

Try modded difficulties :0

[eternal maple]

I remember looking at it through thermals and just laughing

[analog flicker]

The thing is. That's modded

[meager olive]

True

Twitch mode

👀

200% Twitch mode with deeds 👍

[umbral idol]

easier than gtfo?

[true socket]

Hi anyone else isnt getting rewards ? herpess me pls

[sick zodiac]

RU have?

[wispy bluff]

Yes, there was an issue and it was supposedly fixed in last patch. Check #game-announcements

[copper tiger]

@hollow quarry is there any solution for people who may have completed any levels yesterday considering the apparel bug and no rewards?

[hollow quarry]

Not currently

[true socket]

Thanks , should have checked the announcement cheers! Lucky ppl that didnt play much

[visual lily]

10 cambers

what was the choice that made you nerf the burst cannon

[copper tiger]

@visual lily the reason behind any nerf, too stronk

[visual lily]

but it wasnt

[wispy bluff]

It was good. That simple, really.

[shut vapor]

People really thinking burst cannon wasn't strong

[wispy bluff]

Even an idiot like me loved it. And we have people here who could reliably delete 3+ strikers.

[visual lily]

it still can

[copper tiger]

May i suggest sending out some free apparel/color palettes if possible? Or maybe can obtainable by completing missions like the onyx palette

[visual lily]

it was decent thats about it

nothing too overpowered

[stray raft]

It was strong but plenty of other guns are too tbh so I don't think it needed a nerf

But I can see why it got nerfed

[visual lily]

i dont

[stray raft]

Put it this way, I can see the reasoning but don't agree with it

[torpid rose]

let's just make every gun like the pistol instead of making difficult maps

[stray raft]

Especially since they (slightly) buffed sniper which was it's main competition for killing bigs and bosses

[shut vapor]

All weapons do need nerfs

Including bullpup

Increase that reload timer

3 second to 5

[stray raft]

Bullpup reloads too fast

[copper tiger]

Burst cannon does 20 damage per bullet and is the highest damage / magazine weapon in out of all the special guns @visual lily

[stray raft]

Same for precision rifle

[shut vapor]

I think reloading should take a minute for every weapon

[sharp siren]

If you think burst canon didnt need a nerf

your delusional

sorry

[stray raft]

Agreed, need enough time for a piss break between reloads

[sharp siren]

[visual lily]

clown moment

[burnt flume]

burst cannon was blatantly too good

[mint light]

its fixed we waited for this patch before starting

[burnt flume]

but hey you know, it was a funny gun

[mint light]

now we get our shinies

[shut vapor]

It was busted before burst cancel fix, and it was still strong

[mint light]

soon: "when R5"

[shut vapor]

Afterwards

[shut vapor]

I'm thinking mid June tbh

[mint light]

I'll dissappear back into the depths until then

[stray raft]

My bet is on late august

[sharp siren]

june 1

[coarse grail]

A Thursday in August for sure

[mint light]

🧐

[sharp siren]

trust trust

[shut vapor]

Ain't no way its gonna take them longer to remake r5 than r4

[coarse grail]

they had borrowed time from R3 for this one

[sharp siren]

I mean most levels apparently are inside the datablock already

[mint light]

yeah just like R3 did not take longer than R2 😏

[sharp siren]

last time i check

so it should be quick enough

[shut vapor]

If you ignore vacation time, r4 took just under 2 months

R3 had vacation time

So we don't know

[wicked solstice]

we all know it's only coming out when Scaler does his R4E1 guide

[mint light]

oh mighty black one (/j) did they f up Alt R4E1?

[mint light]

yeah that seems pretty clear now

[shut vapor]

D tiers are pretty fun now and mr black has assured me that e1 is fun too

[sharp siren]

Nah its pretty good actually

really good changes

[mint light]

why you looking weird @coarse grail

[sharp siren]

like actual improvements

[mint light]

in that case I look forward to it

[coarse grail]

nothing nothing

[shut vapor]

Rare spawn

Ellda smh

[coarse grail]

I'm gonna see what I can clear as a duo tonight now

Not having enough people for a full team gonna help me savour the content

[shut vapor]

R4B1 is literally impossible duo 🤯

[coarse grail]

🤔

[shut vapor]

I couldn't do it 😔

@sharp siren is the r4e1 solo dream possible now

[sharp siren]

I can see it happening been honest

not extreme tho

thats gonna be hella door bug

[shut vapor]

Lol

[sharp siren]

wave enemies actually come to you fast in this r4e1

before they would kinda just skip to you in line

[shut vapor]

If people weren't door bugging for main already i would have been surprised

[sharp siren]

also pro tip bring shotgun sentry

youll thank me later

[shut vapor]

Do people actually have to shoot now 🤯

[wicked solstice]

can't tell if you're being serious

[sharp siren]

you could always shoot it just that it was more care free to kite

[junior latch]

gotta wait for prof scalers last guide to drop. 12 levels will take longer than 7

[sharp siren]

I am

shotgun sentry based

[wicked solstice]

ok nice, I had been using it for solo play bc I find it a lot better in a biotrackerless run

[sharp owl]

i think ima pistolmain now tbh

[shut vapor]

The real question now is does the fog rise faster in d2 ovl

Or is there another incentive to use the turbine

[wicked solstice]

iirc mr dragon said there was more incentive to use turbine

[shut vapor]

Dead content back in original r4 after all

[hollow quarry]

The system we have doesn’t support sendouts like that

[wispy bluff]

Maybe a "sorry" event with free apparel?

Like you did those camo sets etc

Only this time give it an extra 1-2 random drops

[sharp owl]

just mod in the cosmetics

[sharp siren]

^ at this point yeah

[hollow quarry]

There are some options

[modern coral]

This is probably the best solution tbh, but the bester solution is to just not care, lol.

Back in my day, we made number go up, and that was that.

[torpid rose]

fix high cal reload bug

thx

[wicked solstice]

based

[mystic moss]

5 bullets is the default now for hi cal, the 6th bullet is a good luck charm

[wicked solstice]

bruh bots dumping Cfoam nades and mines for lock melters still

[sharp siren]

I was happy playing c3 with bot bishop and he had a fog repeller (we needed that)

homey ditch the repeller for the melter

i controlled myself to not mag dump the chokemod into him

[wicked solstice]

BRUH i know

i don't remember them ditching foam for melters thoughb

that one feels new

i seem to remember them prioritizing cfoam/mines > melters > fogs > glowies

but now they ditching even foam for melters

like bro I don't need 12 melter charges

[sharp siren]

well melters are the most harmless on them

[wicked solstice]

i'd rather they take anything else tbh

[sharp siren]

and arguably the most "useful" specially in stealth heavy sections

[wicked solstice]

even glowsticks are nice bc I can use them to reposition a bot

[sharp siren]

had bot bishop save me from a padlock box with a key inside of it right next to a big charger once

was pretty cool

dude just came in lock melt the padlock and left

my hero

[wicked solstice]

i agree that melters can be useful

but like make it so that the bots can only collectively have 1 please

[dusk wren]

hi guys i just dl the game is there any french people up to play ? we are already 2

[wicked solstice]

bro where'd homie go

I had a fix for him

oh tengu's still here, try typing the first 3-4 letters of the command and hitting tab

[stark imp]

Shush, let me think

[wicked solstice]

;-; ok bro, was just trying to help

[stark imp]

It is possible to give out cosmetics on any level completion, as done with FOMO cosmetic drops in the past. What if the same mechanic was used to hand out missing cosmetics to people who already have a certain amount of cosmetics, which would indicate that they are eligible for those cosmetic drops?

The number of cosmetic drops given could be adjusted based on the exact number of apparel items the player already has.

[desert frigate]

that doesn't account for how many a player should have depending on completed levels and rundowns

[wicked solstice]

also special event cosmetics

[desert frigate]

i don't know what systems they have, what they keep track of, but this is just a general shit show

[wicked solstice]

and people also missed out on different numbers of cosmetics

[stark imp]

It does, because 10C has the apparel of any given player saved to their database, which means they can query the amount a player has, which is an indicator of how many cosmetics that player is missing, therefore level completions.

[stark imp]

Exceptions would need to be made to take into account FOMO apparel, so if the query returns any of those, they wouldn't be counted towards the owned apparel amount.

[desert frigate]

the quarry would return the amount of levels the player has completed which have given them an apparel reward, it level completions is not accurate as some drops were locked behind completing optional objectives

[wicked solstice]

i've said this a lot but I'll say it again - if it were that easy I'm sure they would have done it by now. I don't think they have a way to fix this that doesn't involve something either super complicated or tedious

[sharp siren]

theres a reason why they where lacking cosmetics

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[wicked solstice]

like yesterday people were talking ab resetting the rundown

[stark imp]

That wouldn't work if people have played through levels and already earned any cosmetics, then they could just reset the rundown and get more cosmetic drops.

[desert frigate]

unless the data base keeps track of which apparel drop was received from which level of which rundown and whichever difficulty goal reward, there isn't a clean answer

[wicked solstice]

exactly

[stark imp]

As far as I am aware, it only tracks which apparel, therefore also the amount of apparel.

[wicked solstice]

it has other consequences and not to mention, it also fucks over anyone who played the rundown yesterday and didn't care about apparel

[desert frigate]

i played, i don't care about apparels, i run full basic set 99% of the time

i'm curious about the solutions

[stark imp]

I am curious how a mishap of this scale was allowed to happen. Though knowing the track record of 10C...

[wicked solstice]

i am going to be completely honest, as much as it is a pretty big mishap, i doubt they were testing or thinking ab apparel drops when they were remaking R4

[winged narwhal]

I think the scale of the mishap is greatly overexaggerated

[sharp siren]

its called, GTFO its not our priority until our 2 employess working on the part time finish re-releasing the old content until rundown 8

[wicked solstice]

exactly