gtfo-chat

[untold depot]

was just double checking im not well knowledge in geography

and something else but that's personal

[coarse grail]

no you'll laugh at me when I have to put my horse back on its starting square

[tardy dawn]

When the community manager wrote about the fog in the dev-leaks channel, five days later ALT:/RUNDOWN 2 came out. An hour ago he wrote more. Does this mean we're expecting Rundown 4 this week? I'm so excited.

[regal mauve]

I'm usually the one who does that

I'll probably sacrifice my queen for no reason

[little ridge]

to make the enemy lower their guard

[regal mauve]

there's guards in chess?

[coarse grail]

yes they are burrowing units

[little ridge]

They come out of the ground but you need to unlock the ability to do so via the HQ

or was that Red Alert 3?

[coarse grail]

pretty sure its chess

[little ridge]

chess backwards is ssehc, seh-c, sex

1 king, 1 queen a coincidence? I think not

[coarse grail]

don't want to brag but I have a sex elo in the upper double digits 😉

[little ridge]

which ranked ladder? 😄

[coarse grail]

Uhhhh

Okay you got me I never played before

[little ridge]

Jokes aside, Alt R4 shouldn't release any weapon other than autopistol, right?

[regal mauve]

same

[coarse grail]

was the double tap rifle R5?

[hallow grove]

Auto Sentry?

[elfin osprey]

what is an auto pistol?

[regal mauve]

oh god

[little ridge]

it's machinepistol but it staggers a lot

[elfin osprey]

wait what

[regal mauve]

the lurkers are coming out of the ground again

[little ridge]

yes, I'm oversimplifying it

[coarse grail]

I can only think of the double tap rifle, sawn off, and autopistol not being in game atm

[elfin osprey]

does the machine pistol stagger already?

[coarse grail]

autopistol is huge staggers

[little ridge]

and scattergun (R6) but those were all R5

[elfin osprey]

then, what tha hec does machine pistol do

[coarse grail]

You can be your teams gourdian angel just shoot at the enemies trying to attack

Aaah ofc Scatter

machine pistol actually kills things

but it has shorter range than the enemy

[elfin osprey]

it is?

i dont see it kill stuff

the only time i used it is when it got release

[coarse grail]

I mean I've not played with it much but I know its got actually good dps

[junior latch]

its technically the most efficient main gun

[elfin osprey]

the best ratatatata weapon ever

[elfin osprey]

wait what

[junior latch]

but range and firerate kinda make that a thing you wont rly achieve

[elfin osprey]

how can machine pistol be ammo efficent

[junior latch]

Yeah its on the high end of dmg/refill

so per refill you can get the most (hel guns excluded) kills

[regal mauve]

and the carbine remains (one of) the best

[elfin osprey]

how even is that possivle

am i underate that gun

[hallow grove]

It's not, its just one of those if you hit 100% of the shots with a gun you might hit 30% of the shots with its the most efficient

[junior latch]

low dmg per bullet, with high end dmg/refill -> high efficiency

[wispy bluff]

Probably, It carried me through R6D2

[junior latch]

but the gun has ass range
And the firerate means even the good players will waste bullets

[elfin osprey]

i still cant understand this

[junior latch]

?

[elfin osprey]

why does low damage per bullet make it high effective

[hallow grove]

lots of ammo

[junior latch]

cuz you dont waste dmg

[elfin osprey]

wait what

[junior latch]

if you do 1 dmg per bullet with 40 bullets

then you can kill 2 enemies

[elfin osprey]

is waste damage a thing

[coarse grail]

overkill damage

[junior latch]

yea?

see dmr

[elfin osprey]

this is getting weird

[little ridge]

think like sniping smalls

[junior latch]

Dmr needs 2 shots to kill a striker

[little ridge]

now invert that shit

[junior latch]

but it leaves a striker at below 1 hp after an headshot

hel revolver overkill smalls everytime whether you headshot or not

all the dmg is smth a perfectly played machine pp could technically use to start hurting another enemy

its a simple concept

[wispy bluff]

Eva means that you don't waste ammo as much because it's a low risk low reward weapon.

[junior latch]

what

no

[wispy bluff]

Sniper is high risk high reward. Crap ton of damage if you hit, valuable resource lost of you miss.

With smgs who cares if you missed.

[coarse grail]

no

[junior latch]

thats smth completely different artek

[little ridge]

not going to lie Artek I sometimes believe you're just trolling

[wispy bluff]

You have 2000 more

[junior latch]

The thing im talking about is super simple

[elfin osprey]

the only thing that i know is dont use sniper to kill little one

i guess i may have underated machine pistol

[little ridge]

(pulling random numbers) Gun does 1 damage to head, enemy has 20 hp. hit head 20 times, enemy dies. now image the same but the gun does 3 damage

[coarse grail]

If you only had a sniper and I only had a carbine, and we each had 100% ammo, who do you think is gonna kill more strikers?

Or even better, more babies

[sharp siren]

WE SHOULD MAKE SOME NOISE TO BUFF SMG

[little ridge]

7th shot is going to do 3 damage so enemy dies with you having wasted 1 damage

[sharp siren]

Everybody spam calle

[little ridge]

Therefore, the lower the damage a weapon does, the less risk you have of wasting "damage"

[junior latch]

we need to nerf PR

[sharp siren]

nah they need to buff it so you can actually aim with it

[elfin osprey]

this is a new concept for me

[sharp siren]

ok so whats your predictions for r4 boys and gals

[junior latch]

no its not

[elfin osprey]

for me

[junior latch]

people are gonna cry that every level got nerfed. Even if they didnt

[elfin osprey]

im used to over dealing damage in other game

[wispy bluff]

It's R4.

[junior latch]

you cant deal 150 dmg to an enemy with 100 hp

so a gun that does 75 per shot will waste 50 for every enemy

simple af concept

[little ridge]

Some people are going to finish it in hours. Some are going to finish it in weeks. A month later and we'll be basically where we are now, waiting for new-old rundown

[junior latch]

so guns with lower dmg but same amount of dmg per refill (or magazine even) have theoretically higher efficiency

but since they are bound to miss bullets or overshoot thats ok

[coarse grail]

I'd hope you bear the concept Eva is talking about in mind even if you haven't discussed it w.r.t. balance

[junior latch]

w.r.t.?

[coarse grail]

with respect to

[little ridge]

World Racoon Trouble

Ehi, I tried

[junior latch]

wireless retro television?

[elfin osprey]

i understand now

[coarse grail]

explain it back

[elfin osprey]

im gonna change my mindset

[junior latch]

guns efficiency numbers wise isnt always achievable and (player skill aside) can depend on circumstances and such

burst cannon in theory has 20 kills per refill on strikers

but you wont reliably get that even if you play for that scenario

or machine guns having 20+ kills/refill. They are too high of a firerate

[quartz cape]

just burst cancel smh

[junior latch]

whats funny to me is burst cannon having shotgun efficiency as long as you kill 2 per burst 😐

[little ridge]

Yeah I used shotgun a bit lately and it felt inefficient

[junior latch]

That and lowish range are its trades offs

gun is very balanced

imo

[sharp siren]

Aim body

suddenly 1 shots

[quartz cape]

They should make it unlockable

[wispy bluff]

All pumpy needs is slightly more ammo

So that you could just use it as a fuck off close range gun. Aka melee with ammo, which it already is anyway.

[junior latch]

im not against buffing it

but unless you just wanna put it up there with the guns that are too strong, why

[quartz cape]

It’s already fine, bc and Hel gun just probably need nerfs

[junior latch]

„Probably“

[quartz cape]

Other option is to make levels harder

[hidden kernel]

Alteration rundows and harder levels? 🤡

[rose nova]

wasnt r3d1 like harder now that its got new enemies and such
along with r2e1

?

[hidden kernel]

no, they are not

especially when weapons are much much better than before

• they make easier some sectors in those levels

[analog flicker]

[rose nova]

eh fair enough

[analog flicker]

I love using a Burst cannon / sniper sentries against the hybrids that didn't appear before in R1C1

Especially hel weapons that didn't exist back then

Then again. shotgun sentries were busted back then and still had back damage

Bugged rather than busted

[hidden kernel]

That was funny bug, as far I rebember that damage scaled with number of players 😄

[analog flicker]

Yes

Stack that with back damage too

Crazy shit

[sharp owl]

r4?

[primal harness]

got new update

[rose nova]

not yet

but soon

#dev-leaks aa

[sharp owl]

r4 is gonna cure cancer

[serene berry]

we get there when we get there

also, the social media campaign is starting up, it is either this week or next week

[rough robin]

could possibly be this week, 26th ish

[wraith marsh]

R4r4r4r4r4r4r4

[pine root]

Will be a Thursday

27 or next week

[mystic moss]

can't wait to clear all the content in 7 hours instead of 4

[serene berry]

next week imo,

although the dev leak with the same format for R2 came out 4-5 days before the rundown

so i am prepared to be wrong 🤞

[amber dawn]

What gets changed going from EXT:// to ALT://?

[rose nova]

EXT is levels added to a rundown, ALT are the old rundowns remade

EXT is Extension, ALT is alternative

[serene berry]

lol if they don't put the ext levels into the initial Alt drop imma cry

[rose nova]

ill throw a box of tissues at u

:3

[wraith marsh]

Ngl if it means we get it sooner I'd be fine with that

[pine root]

June 1st

[serene berry]

you make a good point, but today i am in a complaining mood, so i disagree with you

June first

[ivory pier]

the leak is an extension level

[rose nova]

ah

[serene berry]

pog

[pine root]

Thank god we don’t have to wait 5 months

For the extensions

Holy shit

[sharp owl]

Does the game still crash on steam deck?

[muted cypress]

Why are you playing on steam deck?

[serene berry]

noone plays on Steam deck to ask lol

[sharp owl]

I just tried it

oh well

lowest 15 fps
max 30 fps
average 22 fps
All of those at 1080p with room for improvement

[livid gulch]

"gtfo is lackluster on the steam deck, must be a shit game"

[rough robin]

GTFO doesn't run on my samsung smart fridge

refunding this dogshit

[serene berry]

Doom can run on 40,000 crabs at logic gates, but this game can't?? unoptimized trash

[rough robin]

THE 40,000 CRABS

[analog flicker]

Steam deck user being the terminal person

[rough robin]

Trying to type UPLINK_VERIFY on 5fps

[analog flicker]

I hate being terminal person. Despite loving how useful it is.

Meanwhile I remember someone despising the fact I list entire zones instead of just List Res

[mint light]

you list ENTIRE zones !!!!!!

[analog flicker]

List E_69 Res

[wraith marsh]

bro at least do like

list U

[analog flicker]

Poop_Pack_420

[wraith marsh]

so you dont get boxes

or doors

[burnt flume]

if you intentionally list entire zones you're a psycopath

[mint light]

Meh people like boxes nowadays

[burnt flume]

literally worse than boxes/lockers that only have an artefact in them

[analog flicker]

Me waiting for the GTFO Cooler to be in Stock

[wraith marsh]

ive listed for boxes a grand total of 1 time in my time playing this game

[analog flicker]

[wraith marsh]

and rn I cant even remember why it was necessary

[serene berry]

🤤

[mint light]

That thing was 500 bucks no???

[analog flicker]

Smth like that

Kek

[burnt flume]

LIST STO E_XYZ

[analog flicker]

I want the GTFO Diapers the HardHat guy is wearing

[burnt flume]

to try and find some damn fog repellers

unfortunately, you still cannot find the fog repellers

[analog flicker]

Propellers*

[mint light]

Ngl my wife would jump me in those beauties

[analog flicker]

Marry her again

[mint light]

Alrighty 👍

[serene berry]

divorce just to get remarried is messy, but worth it

trust

[analog flicker]

I'm divorcing you so I can marry you again because I want to experience our wedding a second time.

[mint light]

🧐 we have no vegas here. it ain't that easy

[analog flicker]

What happens in Vegas. Stays in Vegas

[serene berry]

"i never said it would be easy, only that it would be worth it."

• What Throne

[mint light]

Also that kind of spending ........... 😭

[mint light]

I saw what you did 🧐

[serene berry]

did what?

[analog flicker]

🫴🥛

I present. DakyMilkshake

I take my leave now

[serene berry]

good luck out there

[wicked solstice]

sir that was for you

[rough robin]

Terminal person is fun until you realize you're the only one in your group who will ever bother to learn it

[serene berry]

my only problem with being terminal person is my wpm

[rough robin]

tab autofills shit

makes terminals way too easy lol there's no panic

[serene berry]

not the log name for reactors 😭 but ya even duo corrupted uplinks are not too bad once everyone know what they are doing

[analog flicker]

Me when I query/ping stuff but no one gets it

Me: Pinging Ammopack

gets no response and then 5minutes later I ping it again to grab it myself.

Give or take some pubs are like that.

[rough robin]

I have never once played this game with a pub

it sounds like hell

[burnt flume]

something something just type in READ REACTOR_VER immediately after putting in LOGS

corrupted uplinks you just READ UPLINK_CODES01.LOG and then replace the 1 with the 2 immediately after

wait no hang on

[analog flicker]

When I get on a terminal to see someone type a sus message

Or a (LFG Terminal Communication Only)

[pine root]

I type funny shit in all terminals yet none of my pubs notice

[sharp owl]

how do you pass R1C2

[mystic moss]

use helgun on chargers 😎

[burnt flume]

make sure you're going into the correct side zones, getting all the PIDs, and other than that it's just alarms/stealth

not sure what I can really suggest that's more in depth

[mystic moss]

well he didnt specify what hes struggling with

[burnt flume]

not wrong

[sharp owl]

is the helgun that good

[sharp siren]

braindead weapon

[sharp owl]

how

[sharp siren]

just spam it

no tought just shoot

[sharp owl]

[rose nova]

i use shotguns for levels with chargers cause its a oneshot

[sharp siren]

most retar ded weapon in game

[storm quartz]

Why would R5 do this

[mystic moss]

no!!! you have to position yourself to get lines! it's very skill intensive

[sharp owl]

its so hard to play this game, when you dont have friends

[sharp siren]

make some

[rose nova]

even more with bots i would suggest shotguns ksmdkmsd

[sharp owl]

trying to

[sharp siren]

I pub for 300 hours to find my homies

now i got many homies

[rose nova]

i got many homes

like cardboard houses

[pine root]

Episkin you must join vox and stick to him until he gets you friends

[burnt flume]

I played with like 3 people and their social circle has now kinda become my social circle

doing nothing for years pays off

[pine root]

That is what me and bread did

[sharp owl]

looking for homies
hook up my DMs for homie approval

[burnt flume]

but yeah playing solo is a bit rough, especially given the skill floor

[pine root]

There is no skill floor in gtfo you can come into the game completely useless

[rose nova]

ill use a fishin rod :D
get it?

[wraith marsh]

so true

[burnt flume]

yes but you need skill to get to a baseline level of useful

[wraith marsh]

I pubbed like 3 times and found homies

👍

[rose nova]

i just talked to people and after two three months ive found people ksdmk

[pine root]

It does help you are normal not a lot of gtfo players have this going for them

[wraith marsh]

true

and I talk

[burnt flume]

oh my god you talk with a microphone?

[sharp owl]

[pine root]

Mute player with bio trackers I don’t need a personality

[sharp siren]

click on my pfp

[sharp owl]

omg you have a mouth?

[wraith marsh]

I love the ppl that arent mutes and just

dont talk

open mic and NOTHING

[pine root]

Still not the most insane player I met

[sharp siren]

nah that would be the delusional people who think their good but arent

[burnt flume]

is that better or worse than someone who would not shut up

[wraith marsh]

hmmm

good question

[sharp owl]

I hate hackers
Me and my homies all hate hackers

[wraith marsh]

depends on what they arent shutting up about

I hate ppl who just say the most random shit with no context constantly

especially if its not even funny

[pine root]

Welp

[sharp owl]

but thats funny!

[pine root]

It was fun chill dude

[wraith marsh]

not like you jish

like

COMPLETELY random

[pine root]

But I guess this is where we part roads

[sharp owl]

I like to talk, I hate people who cant talk

[wraith marsh]

like 0 social awareness random

[rose nova]

im the kind of person that does bad jokes but i know im bein awful and im laughin about it and this whole cycle keeps shovin it inside of its own ass idk what my humor is

and its beautiful

[pine root]

I like the players that agree with everything I say and worship my thought about gtfo

[rose nova]

fuck ur thoughts :]

[pine root]

Hey

Blocked

[burnt flume]

well if you're speaking factually then yeah why not

[pine root]

No you don’t understand there have been a few

I have tested

[wraith marsh]

did you gaslight them

[burnt flume]

maybe they want to test if you have a praise kink

[pine root]

They agree with me about fucking random shit

[burnt flume]

ok maybe not

they're probably just clingy

[analog flicker]

MP

[pine root]

Yeah I have told them to think that sleepers are either a 1 or a 2

Sleepers that have the value 1 will long range alert

[analog flicker]

Machine pistol

[pine root]

Sleepers with the value 2 won’t

[wraith marsh]

damn

[burnt flume]

well then

[wraith marsh]

this guy lookin like a 2 smh

[pine root]

Wow they were all 1s

[burnt flume]

they trust you, Jish

[pine root]

Must have been unlucky

They do but at the same time

I be wrong

[burnt flume]

I mean tbh what's the point of pubs if you're not giving people trust issues

[pine root]

I need to be called on my bullshit

[burnt flume]

"oh you're this far in the reactor huh" and proceeds to throw the run giving everyone trust issues

[pine root]

Hahaha

Stop stop

I can’t

[burnt flume]

I simply pretend these people do not exist

[pine root]

I am the least trustworthy person here

100%

I will teach brand new players to run and gun

[burnt flume]

good, test them with fire

force them to improe

if they do not improve they will die

you will make them a god by the time they reach the 20 hour mark

[pine root]

don’t worry you have 1 hour let’s duo r3d1

Very fun gameplay

But they ruin pubs for quite a while

Pretty funny

[burnt flume]

well at least you're showing them a good time with the actually cool missions

[pine root]

Yeah gtfo is a fun game.

People play levels for to long gets insane at a point

1.5 hour runs on one level is just to long

[rough robin]

me and my two buds took 3 hours and 20 minutes to PE sublimation our first run

[pine root]

Is that r7c2

[rough robin]

yeah

[pine root]

yeah

That happens

The level is only like 45 mins

If you don’t mess up

For pe

[rough robin]

it was our first ever run of it and once we hit the checkpoint we were like. Well. no turning back now

[pine root]

Yup it happens all good but

If you had the knowledge the level doesn’t take that long

[rough robin]

but we didn't

[pine root]

The only confusing part is doing overload on cell 5/6 instead of 3/4

It is just werid

Not intuitive

Tbh

[pine root]

But pe runs take a while. Honestly the pe or bust gtfo movement

Sucks

[sharp siren]

6 hour R4C2 PE once alt r4 releases

im calling it

[pine root]

I will cry

[sharp siren]

remember my gospel

[pine root]

12 hours r7b3

[sharp siren]

it will happen again

[pine root]

Overload

I joined a 14 hour r7b3

And it was hell

There was a reason they were hard stuck

They were all running some insane shit like smg rev

Or something

We’re teaching me the level

[sharp siren]

I mean thats not a bad loadout

i think its just their game knwoledge that missing

[pine root]

Yeah probs

But I just couldn’t black dragon I just couldn’t

[sharp siren]

I mean of course its a 14 hour match

i would become a dictator at that point

[pine root]

I joined at hour 13

And left at hour 13:30

[sharp owl]

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-happy-celebration-joy-confetti-gif-25557730

just finished all of R1

bruh no gif

all thanks to vex

[rose nova]

noice :]

[sharp owl]

feels good

R2 it is now

[burnt flume]

boy are you in for a treat

[sharp owl]

a fun treat?

[burnt flume]

up to you to decide

[sharp owl]

what does that mean

[burnt flume]

it depends on your definition of fun

it's a large step up from r1

[rose nova]

very hard :D

[sharp owl]

as long as I get kinda smart teammates

[rose nova]

smart? gtfo? boring :3

[sharp owl]

make it as terrifying as possible

R2A1 lessgooo

[rose nova]

wake up every room :D

[sharp owl]

but like, sneaky is funny

[rose nova]

ok ok fair enough :^

but remember these b easy lvls too so pick the guns u use the least just cause :D

[swift wyvern]

Ok serious question: Do glowsticks have an actual useful use case?

I have never used them 😩

[rose nova]

when its dark and u dont wanna use ur flashlight

they arent bad, they help if theres like 700 enemies in a very small room or somethin but ah

usually they arent necessary either

its usually the consumable i have when i dont have anythin else :]

i mean- when i dont have a cfoam nade or a tripmine

[sharp siren]

mutiple uses such as marking where shadow is if your biotracker in hard rooms, using it for alarms in dark rooms to iluminate the funnels and enemy pathing, some boosters require been near a glowstick

i use them when i can since they're pretty disposable

[analog flicker]

old boosters*

[sharp siren]

[swift wyvern]

Man I don't even bother picking 'em up lol

If they made the glowsticks flash RGB like a gamer's keyboard I'd use them

[rose nova]

if they did that i would stop usin em

unless they gay

[swift wyvern]

For shadows I just open my eyes

Yeah, I said it

[sharp siren]

thats the biotracker meme tho

[swift wyvern]

I've used biotracker once lol

[pine root]

Glow sticks have a small use case

[rose nova]

illuminate

[last parrot]

i tried using glow sticks in r2e1 shadow room to highlight the shadow

it didn't work

[rose nova]

shouldve used the ping everything mod

/j

[pine root]

Shadows don’t interact with glow sticks unfortunately

[rose nova]

would b funny fi they looked at em then just go away walkin

not like sleepers just like normal humans

[dry leaf]

I like glow sticks because my preferred kit is revolver, burst cannon or sniper, and many times I don’t get the bio tracker. So it’s something that helps me navigate the dark better than just my ears.

[rose nova]

tbf sniper has the best flashlight in the game

[dry leaf]

Seems pretty natural being a long range weapon

The sniper rifle is the best gun when going solo. It has saved me a few times when I fuck up a room or sneak into a giant only room.

[rose nova]

yes but the sniper with that flashlight u dont need glowies

[modern coral]

???

I hope you mean w/ bots.

[rose nova]

with the revo i get it more

[rose nova]

obvs

they joined mar 10

what do u expect

[modern coral]

shrug

[dry leaf]

One man cannot shoot enough bullets nor carry enough bullets to solo with out bots

[modern coral]

You absolutely can.

Not as much on harder levels, but most easier and mid-difficulty levels you can clear waves by yourself.

[rose nova]

try soloin r2d2 then we talk

:D

[rough robin]

ez pz. give me 10 minutes itll be done

[rose nova]

no yeah its substantially hard

not for grongus

they too cool

but for the rest of us mortals yeah

[rough robin]

Already beat it

PE'd it too. Doesn't even have secondary objectives. did it anyways

[modern coral]

I'm pretty sure people have done that, although w/ giant kiting iirc.

But you can solo R3A3 w/out giant kiting

It's just very hard.

[rose nova]

i get ur point but that wasnt really the point of the convo- uh lets shift back shall we

sniper with bots is a nice weapon

i just prefer more um useful for smols guns

since i need to do some wave clearin too

[modern coral]

Actually, they don't giant kite until wave 8.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeu98_WdQW4

It looks like they just shoot through the entirety of everything before that

They being T-nenpi

[rose nova]

ok

also i cant aim with sniper

skill issue

[rough robin]

sniper heatseeking ammo when

[winged narwhal]

only if it prioritizes shooting teammates

[rose nova]

always goin for the grind we need a pvp

[winged narwhal]

I live to cause problems for my allies

[near cloud]

Is there a video somewhere explaining the GTFO lore?

[waxen solstice]

Professor Scaler has some, although I don't know how up-to-date it is

[near cloud]

Thank you!

[junior latch]

If it isnt just tag him and ask him when the new lore video comes out

[livid gulch]

TBF the lore when the alt rundowns came out is just "this is an alternative universe that does the exact same thing as yours"

[analog flicker]

No

[livid gulch]

but Hackett drank tea one point

[analog flicker]

Glowstick lore changed entirely

[junior latch]

not quite

The alt rundowns bring some interesting implications

[livid gulch]

name one

[coarse grail]

for a dollar

[livid gulch]

dude really monetized GTFO lore

[little ridge]

Now I'm worried we'll get more Schaeffer audiologging shit in Alt R4

With him talking on and on and on and on while we do error alarms

[coarse grail]

rather that than the 30 second Rebecca Stokes scans

[little ridge]

You just open a sec door and Schaeffer goes on and on about how it used to be a cool spot to hang out for smoke breaks

[livid gulch]

audio logs in alt rundowns?

[little ridge]

It's my way of calling everything that includes a voice narrating stuff while the player does whatever else

[junior latch]

the file describing all the different versions of dozens of characters (super log in r2b2) itself shows that at least some people knew about it in the world

lore behind why enemies dissappear like they do

im not deep in the lore at all, but theres new stuff with the lore through the ALTs

[analog flicker]

Glow sticks Green > Glow sticks Yellow

Very Lore heavy change

[junior latch]

true

[jagged trail]

when r4

[eternal maple]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[hallow grove]

broooooooo

[eternal maple]

THE 27TH

[hallow grove]

2 DAYS

[finite saffron]

quite amazing

[eternal maple]

HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE

[feral vessel]

Well, that was faster than expected.

[hollow quarry]

(sorry)

[upper dagger]

oh christ, r4 already?

[burnt flume]

@grizzled bison june 1st???

[feral vessel]

[unreal crystal]

cant believe it wasnt june 1st

actually heartbroken

[sharp owl]

THE R4 IS REAL

[unreal crystal]

do better devs

[feral vessel]

They just don't want people's prediction to be real

[burnt flume]

time to get 1 completion on every mission (apart from e1)

[hollow quarry]

R4 delayed to June 1st

[burnt flume]

maybe I solo r4e1 for first clear

[junior latch]

@hollow quarry cant believe you waited until the exact minute we stopped speedrunning (and set it for our meetup time on thursday)
very sus if i say so

[unreal crystal]

LETS GOOOO

[modern coral]

Holy, based?

[hollow quarry]

I know everything

[eternal maple]

R4 is real!

[modern coral]

Blasphemers in shambles.

[hollow quarry]

Hope so!

[stark imp]

The real question is if R4 ALT includes the extension right off the bat

[eternal maple]

It will

hopefully

probably

most likely

[hollow quarry]

It will

[burnt flume]

it makes sense to

and dev leak is literally r4b3 ovl

[little ridge]

It's R4A1

[stark imp]

Perfect. My appreciation is immeasurable, and my weekend is saved.

[spark vapor]

I hope they will put more lore and QoL changes

[little ridge]

I'm pretty sure it's the crossways between high and extreme

is it?

[hollow quarry]

Will it last the whole weekend?

[little ridge]

Now I have doubts

[modern coral]

That tile looks like the bridge tile to me, not a random datacenter tile.

[burnt flume]

it's b3

zone numbers line up with b3, so does tile

[little ridge]

I stand corrected then I guess

[elfin osprey]

wait

what the heck

[stark imp]

Probably will, the group I play with have lives 🥲

[elfin osprey]

do we not get dellay?

[hollow quarry]

Haha!

[burnt flume]

i wonder how long it'll take to run through it all

[hollow quarry]

Expecting "when R5" the same day

[junior latch]

when R5?

[elfin osprey]

@hollow quarry is this a april 1st babuso but not on the correct day?

[little ridge]

24 hours (as in, a day, not actual 24h of playtime) for most premade groups imho

[hollow quarry]

Yes

[elfin osprey]

how long was it when alt r3 got release

1 month?

[burnt flume]

first week of march I think

[junior latch]

its been a bit less than 2 months total now

[burnt flume]

or you can just

[hallow grove]

2 months since alt r3 release

[burnt flume]

check patchnotes channel for the dates

[junior latch]

so as expected

[eternal maple]

Rare 10cc W

[elfin osprey]

oh ok, now im not suprise

[stark imp]

This means that I am one rundown away from the rundown I started this game with. And one rundown away from my beloved double tap rifle.

[elfin osprey]

but a little bit earlyer than i expect

scatter gun when?

[unreal crystal]

so hyped to get to the cheese spot when mom ups 🥰

[elfin osprey]

saw off shotty when

[hallow grove]

heavy smg when

[eternal maple]

I feel like it took longer for R3 to come out

[modern coral]

DTR is kinda hype, though.

[elfin osprey]

i need more destruction

more power

[modern coral]

I can't wait to throw all of my pub runs trying to optimize my DTR gameplay.

[hollow quarry]

Christmas takes a good 3 weeks with all the holiday

[coarse grail]

I can't wait to get back on the E1 grind (If I can muster 4 players 😦 )

[wicked solstice]

excited to see what E1 looks like

[eternal maple]

DTR is new carbine im calling it

[elfin osprey]

is christmas really long in europe and america?

[burnt flume]

question now, do we get a 2nd heavy assault rifle

[hallow grove]

Considering Christmas break and New Years, r3 still only took 2 months

[modern coral]

Ngl, that'll take some mega buffs.

[stark imp]

Oh no, content drought for the entirety of summer confirmed.

[elfin osprey]

we dont have christmas here, we only have flip flop to our butt everyday

[little ridge]

DTR, HSMG and Sawn off where all R5 IIRC

Sawn off was R5 Ext

[elfin osprey]

how long would it take to speed run alt r4

[wicked solstice]

Oh we’re getting auto sentry and autopistol

[elfin osprey]

and who will get to it first

[hollow quarry]

Often people go on holiday around the 20th of December, and are back after New Year, but then there is some overlap so studio isn't really up and running until like a week after new year

[eternal maple]

Honestly I never used the DTR so idk if its actually good

[modern coral]

It's very bad.

[little ridge]

IT'S SOUL

It's a soul-weapon

dont listen to Rayaloft

[modern coral]

but it's also big time a skill weapon, so it's fun.

[eternal maple]

im gonna use it

Even though I can't aim for shit

[junior latch]

even with prior knowledge its gonna take the better players quite some hours

[stark imp]

The only thing I am sad about in regards to DTR is that I'll have to say goodbye to HEL revolver. And there aren't any pistol sized weapons in the special weapons category that have blue or white sights, so I don't really know what I'll have in the special slot :(

[junior latch]

not like r1 or r3 thats doable chill in 3 hours

[modern coral]

R4 might actually take an entire day.

[hollow quarry]

Haha

[stark imp]

How many levels is R4 again?

[wicked solstice]

12

[hollow quarry]

12 with extension

[coarse grail]

my estimate: around 3.5-4 hours (sum of optimised times)

[stark imp]

Noice

[hallow grove]

12

[eternal maple]

Nah imma take my time with it, especially with finals

[wicked solstice]

7 prisoner efficiency

5 extreme

[hollow quarry]

Yea, it's layers time

[elfin osprey]

oh yes, more 1 hours run

[stark imp]

Oh right, additional objectives

[hallow grove]

Are the unlock requirements staying the same?

[eternal maple]

Will there be any new apparel?

[wicked solstice]

It is quite the chonky rundown

[hollow quarry]

More on that on Thursday

[elfin osprey]

its a long time sinse the last time i have a long run

[hollow quarry]

Almost as chonky as R5

[wicked solstice]

Probably bigger tbh

[stark imp]

Any info on if/when there will be pistol sized weapons in the special weapons category that have blue or white sights?

[modern coral]

Bigger but a bit easier, I think.

[eternal maple]

Yeah cause like every level has an optional

[wicked solstice]

R5 had 13 levels but less side objectives

[hollow quarry]

Noe

[stark imp]

sadness

[wicked solstice]

I mean burst cannon has a blue sight :3

It isn’t pistol sized

[stark imp]

It isn't a pistol sized weapon :D

[wicked solstice]

but it close :3

[eternal maple]

Burst cannon is definitely a pistol

[wicked solstice]

Burst pistol

[eternal maple]

I know my guns quite well

[stark imp]

Thought: what if DTR got the HAR treatment and got moved to special weapons category? It is a more specialized DMR and quite powerful.

And if it did, I would be able to use HEL revolver as my mandatory pistol sized weapon with blue/white sights.

[coral perch]

whyyyyyy Its exam season for me right now

[modern coral]

No, lmao.

[stray raft]

will nobody think of the poor precision rifle

[modern coral]

I'm not even sure how you'd rebalance it without it either being a different weapon or bad.

[stark imp]

Honestly I'd just give it more mag size and ammo. It would probably feel a bit like the revolver, just with a very large magazine.

[modern coral]

A worse revo, you mean.

Just give it those buffs but keep it a Main.

It's already fun to play sometimes.

Just, more as a challenge weapon.

[eternal maple]

Is it atleast rewarding to use?

[stark imp]

I need to find a vanilla way of equipping two main weapons so I can have my mandatory pistol with blue sights as well as the DTR

[eternal maple]

Thought: Carbine HEL shotgun

[jade iron]

maybe instead of rebalancing DTR, rebalance carbine so that each round in a burst is a DTR round

feels like carbine could use the help

[modern coral]

Depends on what you mean by "rewarding"

[little ridge]

Carbine should shoot allied hybrids

[stark imp]

Isn't carbine insanely powerful already though? I don't use it because it doesn't have a blue or white sight, so I don't know for sure.

[modern coral]

The main issue with DTR is it takes a significant amount of skill to make it good, and "good" is "on-par with other Mains."

[little ridge]

it's sarcasm

[eternal maple]

If you get good with it can it be as efficient as other weapons or even better

[stray raft]

personally I think Carbine needs to be better at killing big guys

that or make it into a hel weapon

[stark imp]

I have no sense of sarcasm.

[eternal maple]

CARBINE SHOULD HAVE UNLIMITED AMMO!

[modern coral]

FAX

[stark imp]

Hmmmm... Belt fed machine gun, where the "magazine" is the same size as the max ammo cap 🤔

[jade iron]

sorry, next time I'll recommend that carbine fire bursts of high cal rounds or something

[coarse grail]

imagine the recoil

[jade iron]

what recoil? carbine doesn't have recoil

[eternal maple]

I just realized the carbine reminds me of the vector

Which explains the goated recoil

[forest lance]

Will R6 alt have checkpoints?

[stray raft]

yes

checkpoints were added in r6 so they'll be there

[regal mauve]

Ah, but it's alt

[forest lance]

Can't wait to see every new player brute force c1 with a million restarts

[eternal maple]

Hopefully they make alt R6 harder than the original

[eternal maple]

Literally me

[forest lance]

4 sentries and chill

[junior latch]

so the same as before?
10 hour c1 attempts still goated

[grizzled bison]

The devs misspelled June 1st

[jade iron]

I'm not sure where you'd start with buffing R6

[modern coral]

D-tier, really.

And also just less ammo.

[jade iron]

I doubt they'd meaningfully buff the story levels

D3 is fine, you could cut ammo but it's a reactor level

[modern coral]

D2, D3, and D4 could all be improved with minor tweaks, imo. Non-R6 Sniper alone is massive.

Having ammo on reactors is fine, but having that much is excessive.

[jade iron]

yeah D4 I've thought they could buff substantially

I think with the D3 ammo, maybe the main thing is cutting the ammo in overload

god that key room is gratuitous

I think it'd be cool if they did a twist where D4 disappeared and re-emerged as R6E1

remove checkpoints, add a pmom to the first dark zone, more surges, etc

[modern coral]

Only if they have good ideas for it tbh, and every good idea = -10 whole FPS

[burnt flume]

what are people referring to when they say DTR

[modern coral]

Double-tap Rifle

[burnt flume]

which damn gun was ever referred to as DTR in the history of this game

ah, double tap

that was r5, why are people talking about it already

[modern coral]

It's a hype gun, ngl.

[compact apex]

More releases and here I am unable to play the current rundown cause of the heavy item checkpoint bug. Ffs.

[modern coral]

Same as HEL Gun and BC.

[floral verge]

just dont die

[jade iron]

true, there were some nasty performance issues in D4

[burnt flume]

the missions aren't going anywhere, although I can understand wanting to clear stuff as soon as it releases

[compact apex]

Would love not too but there's a swarm every time. Its hard not to

[floral verge]

logically you shouldn't need more than 1 checkpoint per level

welp, good luck

[quartz cape]

have you tried hel gun

[open wedge]

Hey I wanted to ask has anybody had a bug where naturally spawned enemies don’t spawn. It happened on R7C3 my friend joins me while we were experiencing some internet issues and no enmities spawned in. However enemies spawned by alarms or blood doors still spawned. I am just wondering if anybody else had experienced this?

[burnt flume]

not much to suggest other than either improve at the game so you don't use checkpoints as much

or pray to whatever god you believe in that the checkpoints don't bug out

[compact apex]

At this point its not even weapon choice. There's three of us with turrets. We should be able to finish C-fcking-1. And we could if we could restart it and retry other ideas but the bug ruins the run so we have to restart the game and spend all that time getting back

[serene cove]

Got any random tips to start practicing to get better at the game

[modern coral]

P sure you can fix heavy item issues by having people leave and rejoin.

I've heard of both resetting to checkpoint before rejoining and having a bot in the slot and resetting to checkpoint.

[compact apex]

We're not great but we're not bad either. If it was a map OTHER than a *1, I'd move on but its locking us out from the rest of the game

[ebon gale]

iirc heavy item checkpoint bug can be avoided by putting the items down for a minute before hitting the checkpoint. Might work on a shorter interval but I've never tried.

[compact apex]

We're tried both having people leave and putting stuff down before checkpoint

[burnt flume]

understanding enemy AI is a big one, if you understand them you can hold waves better, avoid taking as much damage, etc etc

[ebon gale]

Hmm interesting. Never had it happen when doing that. How bad is everyone's ping?

[compact apex]

People leaving doesn't fix host having the issue though and the wierd door issue where the monsters can see and run at us thro the.door

[modern coral]

Again, have the bugged person leave, wipe and return to CP, have them rejoin.

[burnt flume]

you can look at better players gameplay to see where some of your gaps are/realise what they do, or grind

[modern coral]

Fixes it fairly consistency.

[compact apex]

Excellent. We're on gigabit net speeds

[modern coral]

Monsters running through doors just sounds like latency tbh

[compact apex]

2 of us in the same apartment

[compact apex]

We're all bugged

[modern coral]

Ngl, this is starting to sound more and more like a 1% of 1% issue.

[compact apex]

And we've gone so far as reinstalling Windows and the game with a data wipe to be sure and it still happens

[open wedge]

Hey I wanted to ask has anybody had a bug where naturally spawned enemies don’t spawn. It happened on R7C3 my friend joins me while we were experiencing some internet issues and no enmities spawned in. However enemies spawned by alarms or blood doors still spawned. I am just wondering if anybody else had experienced this?

[modern coral]

Nope, and kind of sounds like kill all. A bit sussy.

[compact apex]

And yet its still prominent enough to get a mention

[tawdry lintel]

If you do a rundown after completing it does it get harder?

[quartz cape]

no

[coarse grail]

nope

[tawdry lintel]

Hmm ok

[quartz cape]

unfortunately, my best advice at this point is to just not wipe

[ivory pier]

running through door is 100% consistent for R7C1

it happens everytime

the game doesn't have bug hunters anymore

[modern coral]

I don't think most people experiencing the issue are getting it with literally everyone

[ivory pier]

and no one cares

[little ridge]

Is checkpoint bug even THAT common?

[modern coral]

And it was already rare.

[modern coral]

No, lmao.

[acoustic nest]

will you maintain gaining cosmetics after completing secondary or overload in r4 alt? i feel like i have most of the stuff already

[modern coral]

P sure most people are just resigned.

[little ridge]

R4 had no cosmetics

neither did R5

[modern coral]

It's very clear the company doesn't give a damn, nothing to be done of it.

[acoustic nest]

but obviously now its differnt since they already introduced it

[sharp owl]

Guys I have stage 4 cancer, will r4 cure me?

[modern coral]

Presumably it'll be just the Mains, since that's how they made the system work iirc.

[little ridge]

AFAIK you only get stuff for high/main completions

so sectors are purely cosmetical I believe

[ivory pier]

yes (not a doctor)

[coarse grail]

Hard to say, this is the first one they are reintroducing with sectors. I'd probably put my money on Ray's suggestion though

[acoustic nest]

i just wanna be dripped out i look like a hobo in gtfo

[serene cove]

Is R4 difficult compared to the others?

[ivory pier]

no

[coarse grail]

R4 is 2nd hardest rundown to R5

[sharp owl]

No its the easiest rundown

Stop lying ellda smh

[acoustic nest]

how does r4 compare to r7?

[sharp owl]

Way easier

[ebon gale]

I would get the checkpoint bug maybe 1/3 of the time until I started playing around it, so not that uncommon from my experience.

[modern coral]

Around the same, but R4 has harder D and E-tiers.

[visual lily]

Bro why?

2 days bevore release you make an annoucement?

Isnt that a bit too late

[ivory pier]

rip your planned furry con

[visual lily]

It is indeed rip

[compact apex]

Yeah the checkpoint is common enough that it's an entry, so. Shrug I'd love to have a employee watch us play so they could see but not much help in that. Probably better to have the live code read out when it botches.

[quartz cape]

they know its broken, they just dont give a shit

[vagrant veldt]

Maybe the fix is too hard for easy implementation. They did not start the game out with checkpoints in mind. Host transfer sometimes also just fails.

[modern coral]

They've had more than a year to get an actual coder on it.

[quartz cape]

but there are simple workarounds that while not perfect, would at least make the game more playable, such as forcing all large items to drop after reloading

[modern coral]

There are no programmers working on GTFO.

[vagrant veldt]

Probably. The host transfer and item holding make me think save states are bored.

[shut vapor]

@coarse grail it's finally time to return to our roots

[coarse grail]

Do you think I started in R4?

[vagrant veldt]

Also as I understood it they switched to C# some way along the line while that is not what they started out with.

I have switched languages halfway through and it is not a great idea in general unless it brings a big benefit.

[shut vapor]

Did you not

[coarse grail]

Nah mate R1

[shut vapor]

Damn I'm griefing

[coarse grail]

you wouldn't be able to tell watching me play

[shut vapor]

True

[quartz cape]

their game has always been in unity, so I don't think this is true, much less possible

[shut vapor]

It's time to return to the second best rundown (i corrected my message)

[coarse grail]

idk this one might be my favourite, at the time anyway 🙌

[thick hornet]

R4 so soon? damn

I was expecting a much longer wait

[coarse grail]

It was just the right difficulty level for my team at the time

[distant adder]

whats the deal with R2D1 Stat?

[shut vapor]

Can't wait to grief the tank

[quartz cape]

R2D1: Statistics

[little ridge]

Cybernetical Burglary will atone for those mistakes

[coarse grail]

explode the tank

[compact apex]

Starting to feel this way. I was super patient for a year but now I'm just.. miffed to put it nicely.

[shut vapor]

True

Burst cannon exists

Challenge: find an r4 lobby that doesn't take burst cannon

[modern coral]

First time?

[quartz cape]

Ray wasn't lying when he said there are no programmers currently working on the game

there havent been for a long while

[last parrot]

i was off by a day

[vagrant veldt]

The programmers are all hard at work on Payday in space I presume?

[last parrot]

better than you june 1sters

[shut vapor]

They are all mining the rocks in space

[compact apex]

No just super patient and hard to peeve off

[pine root]

Just you wait

[quartz cape]

@modern coral smite him

[pine root]

June 1sters stay winning

[modern coral]

Fool, you're an entire month off.

Soon, the day of reckoning will come.

[little ridge]

Will it give a new cosmetic?

[last parrot]

i said april 28th since day 1

i am practically the oracle

you'll probably get the reckoning date wrong

[vagrant veldt]

R5 June 1st. Double drop withR6.

[pine root]

No r4 delay

[shut vapor]

R6 is actually coming with r7

[pine root]

June. 1

[modern coral]

"For I will pass through the land of #gtfo-chat that night, and I will strike all the firstborn in the land of #gtfo-chat, both man and furry; and on all the false release dates I will execute judgments: I am the June 1."

[little ridge]

So anime PFP are safe?

[last parrot]

you're gonna be wrong again

[compact juniper]

ok can anyone explain the gun terms? like over pen means multible target, but high power? thought it ment damage but i see high damage

[pine root]

You are already dead

[vagrant veldt]

They never were.

[mint light]

No, smite times 2

[little ridge]

Fuck

Hivemind 😦

[modern coral]

The scriptures are ambiguous on this matter.

[sharp owl]

i'm with you fellow anime pfp

[modern coral]

Wrong reply

[pine root]

Answer the text lies to you

[last parrot]

the scriptures are going to feel so dumb

[compact juniper]

oh?

[modern coral]

Overpen means hits stuff behind your first target.

[pine root]

Yeah the text doesn’t tell you much about anything

[vagrant veldt]

At least anime pfp is not furry pfp. Be happy about that.

[little ridge]

😆

[compact apex]

Wait wtf. You can say that but I couldn't say the variant of pee

[vestal crystal]

HOLLOW POINT ROUNDS

Oops caps

[pine root]

Stop

I am going to cry

Does pr have the high dmg tag

[quartz cape]

tungsten rounds

[pine root]

I feel like it might

[mint light]

He pays the devs

[compact apex]

Lel

[mint light]

NOT with money

[vagrant veldt]

Intimate services? I can support that.

[compact apex]

Sorry, not all furries are sluts. I reserve myself unlike those unholy abominations.

Lel

[livid gulch]

you're probably a furfag

and a nazi

[rose nova]

what did i walked into

um

[modern coral]

Go off, king.

[rose nova]

i'm just gonna backtrack real quick

[livid gulch]

average GTFO discussion

[junior latch]

take it another way,
checkpoints can be nice, but they were never the intended way to play the game. You said you are locked from all the content in r7, does that mean youve done everything in ALT R1-R3?

If not, obviously do those. A lot of these missions are easier, some similar and some harder than R7C1 (which tbf isnt that long of a mission).
Checkpoint bugs suck, but its been pretty obviousy that they are hard to fix considering that theres no 100% reproduction currently

[jade iron]

probably, strictly better sniper after all

[pine root]

Yeah it had this cool thermal scope

[quartz cape]

i wonder what its damage per refill is

i bet its really high

[jade iron]

also bigger clip size, more ammo

both 1shot scouts, which is the primary role of a sniper in gtfo

[modern coral]

You can kill more than twice as many scouts without reloading.

[jade iron]

you can kill way more than twice as many enemies in general off a refil too

honestly sniper is ass, I don't know why 10cc thought 3.6 strikers per refill was an okay rate

[junior latch]

now hear the even worse stat

[quartz cape]

really makes you think

[junior latch]

3.6 babys per refill

[pine root]

Sniper is good on babies

[quartz cape]

how many immortals per refill

[pine root]

0.00000000000000000001

Pretty good

[quartz cape]

hey thats pretty good

[mystic moss]

4 with "special damage booster"

[vagrant veldt]

Some sweat by the sniper rifle but I never got the appeal. Precision rifle all the way. Though I usually take any shotgun.

[unique comet]

I wonder if Alt R4 will have 4 extended expeditions included too

[junior latch]

[rose nova]

i think so, the teaser they showed was one

according to a funky person in here

[weary grove]

how do you play ??

invitte me

[rose nova]

um u can do a tutorial first, 'training', then hop onto the first mission of the first rundown, A1

theres a server in spanish too

if ur

interested

[hallow grove]

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[rose nova]

ah :3

[unique comet]

[rose nova]

im copyin that too

[weary grove]

hi

hi

[rose nova]

hey

hay un server en español carnal no se si quieras el link

[weary grove]

dale

ok enviame el link

[rose nova]

#hc-latin-america message sale

aca ta

nomai le dai a unirte :]

[compact apex]

I am a furry, but not a nazi lmao

[compact apex]

Haven't done the Alts yet cause we were trying to focus on getting done what we could on the current release. Just irritating to have a bug for over a year and not have some work around code thrown in for the issue to fix it like someone else mentioned earlier that had the same idea I've bad before (auto drop items, etc). We'd just like to be able to finish the playthroughs.

[rose nova]

but the gayness yeh >:D
we should all b gay, i am gay lets b gayer
idk whats this joke anymore

:]

ive gone off the rails

stop me ksmdkmd

[rose nova]

i mean it isnt as easy as coding 'ah well dont grab the item[0][fix]'
they need to work on the alts as they work on this but
tbh i would suggest go for the alts cause they dont have what r7 has, and if u just complete r7 fully, r1 r2 r3 might seem a bit boring
and r3 is the current release

[compact apex]

But we also at this rate don't care to try the alts cause if there's a bug in the main, what's to prevent there from being other issues on these side quest bs they're re-releasing? Why try to play something that's going to be broken elsewhere too

[minor ginkgo]

I’m trying to complete R2C2 currently and I’ve had several runs ended because the bots refuse to do the blood door bio scan in Zone 115 for some reason

Anybody know why this might be happening?

[rose nova]

sometimes bots bug on the scans, if u like disconnect em and reconnect em it should b fixed

like press esc, put in the box under their name 'none' or 'players' and then change it back and they should b scannin

i had it sometimes for r3c1 but also usually a restart should fix it too for future runs

[jade iron]

[minor ginkgo]

ty 🙏

[rose nova]

its oki

good luck!

[mint light]

there's no checkpoints and thus those bugs don't exist

Also you can finish R7 just fine.

[junior latch]

1st
None of that is „side quest“
Its litteraly just a updated version of the original rundowns. Which are the build up to R7

2nd
Checkpoints are the reasons for basically all (some exceptions) game breaking bugs. And voila, ALTs dont have checkpoints

[primal harness]

@junior latch get ready for speedrun in R4😂 , will wait for your video

[junior latch]

ALTs are definetly gonna fit your level better and give you a more smooth learning curve. R7 throws a lot of things at you.

Especially if you feel like checkpoints breaking are making levels impossible. Again, checkpoints werent the intended way to clear. They are to help if needed.

Regarding the „just throw in code“
Maybe, but who knows if that wont bug out smth. And theres no real fix to stop checkpoint bugs since they are usually not reproduceable. Smth thats pretty important to fix things (its also why them reading the logs that show what happened wont magically fix the issue)

[junior latch]

weve been quite excited, r4 has a ton of cool levels to run through

Will take a bit though id guess? We gotta see if levels/strats are changed and get the spawn maps done

[rose nova]

just go through walls :3

[junior latch]

If only

id love to find reliable out of bound usecases

r3a1 be kinda funny when you move the neonate through a wall

[latent palm]

Ah yes community calle my beloved

[thick temple]

And so the trend I noticed continues...

[rose nova]

yeah whats up with this colors? the clothes trending are so weird

[edgy matrix]

R4 a lot sooner than i thought, i wasnt expecting anything until june

[rose nova]

:]

[normal lake]

yeah i still havent even gotten around to doing r3 all the way yet

[edgy matrix]

r3 was by far my fastest rundown completion lol, did it in a day

[normal lake]

my team did the a tier in 2 hours then just never continued no clue why kek

[little ridge]

R3C1 and R3D1 I like but the others feel meh

[rose nova]

r3 is harder than r1 so ksks it fine

[last parrot]

b2 was pretty cool

[normal lake]

i think we ended up getting addicted top sons of the forest and because of that completely forgot about gtfo

[last parrot]

and a3

[rose nova]

fair enough ive seen lots about that game too

[last parrot]

the others felt formulaic

[rose nova]

but well now the levels arent movin so u can come back to em and complete em when u so desire

:]

[normal lake]

we put like 70 hours into it before the first patch came out a week later

[edgy matrix]

eh, i wanted to try sotf but i heard people beat it in just 10 hours playing leisurely

[rose nova]

whatcha mean try soft
like
with plushies?

ah i get it nevermind

[edgy matrix]

i got wartales instead and im having a blast with that, 24 hours already and im still only in the 2nd region

[normal lake]

if you enjoy building its pretty fun but rn its not a game i can recommend if you wanna explore and fight

[normal lake]

been wanting that game but cant get past the pricetag