#gtfo-chat

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elfin osprey
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I actually find that alarm not that hard

crimson oriole
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i've met some players that aren't aware you can lower the fog for that section

pine root
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in the amount of waves that spawn

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Purely based on rng

elfin osprey
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Hmm

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I think im used to deal with alarm that i dont care how many wave spawn

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But yea, it may become a problem for new

ember quarry
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I wish you could tell the bots to only melee and conserve ammo, that’d be helpful lol

pine root
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Normally it doesn’t really matter but having an extra wave of 5 giants is nothing to scoff when it comes to new players ammo efficiency.

elfin osprey
rose nova
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they b preoccupied bout survivin

crimson oriole
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I guess they don't

pine root
elfin osprey
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I actually dont analize them

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I just do it

pine root
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Yeah game is easy.

rose nova
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so easy

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why should i see how many spawn i could get in a class 9 alarm

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psh

pine root
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But if you are making a claim to it difficulty your experience doesn’t matter

analog flicker
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game is easy yet I see people struggle with R1C1

rose nova
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game is easy once u learn how to easy
i mean how to play

elfin osprey
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R7c1 stupid part is the part when u have to run to extraction

elfin osprey
elfin osprey
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Just gun blazing

pine root
rose nova
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then u go down

analog flicker
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R1C1 imo checks if you actually hit your shots

rose nova
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me failin every shot

analog flicker
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in which is pain when it feels like you're the only one shooting and actually hitting the enemies

elfin osprey
elfin osprey
pine root
analog flicker
pine root
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It can be pretty bad sometimes

elfin osprey
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But with skill

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When u turn on manual auto clicker

rose nova
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its funny u say this when u have another player tellin u how easy r7c1 is

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:]

analog flicker
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hip fire machine guns are good still. it's just range effectiveness decreases

elfin osprey
rose nova
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invalidated /lh

elfin osprey
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Its just the last part always slap me in the face

analog flicker
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some people at first don't expect hipfire in this game to be "good" especially for certain weapons

elfin osprey
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I dont hip fire

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It doesnt look profesional

rose nova
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ik hipfire is better in some weapons but i just cant do it i feel so wrong not aimin down sights

pine root
rose nova
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hehe i play on default :3

analog flicker
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default fov

elfin osprey
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In real life, people always use their scope so

analog flicker
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what the fuck

elfin osprey
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Im not used to hip fire

analog flicker
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default fov is like 50

burnt flume
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Carbine hipfire pretty stupid

pine root
rose nova
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i never change the fov on any game

burnt flume
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👍

elfin osprey
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Im used to 70 fov

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70 or something

analog flicker
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I wanted a little higher than the norm 90

elfin osprey
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Its just make u feel like ur going fast as f

pine root
analog flicker
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Field of View

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I'd like to see if a strike is just off the side without having to turn 90 degrees

rose nova
elfin osprey
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But too much fov make it weird

analog flicker
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irl you have more than 120 fov

rose nova
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makes u feel fast but u see more
its a balance

elfin osprey
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I hate default fov, but also hate too much fov

pine root
analog flicker
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personally I feel like 120 fov is a bit too much since I've seen some people not know the distancing and they end up touching sleepers

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and well ads won't matter but it helps with visual recoil

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it's blade of fire

gray pilot
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i personally play on 35 fov so i can zoom OUT when i ads

analog flicker
pine root
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I love zoom out so much

analog flicker
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I had to aim to gain fov

gray pilot
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its pretty good u should try it guys

analog flicker
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feels like you've got binoculars stuck to your eyes

serene berry
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i moved the FOV down to a minimum and i had my flash light on a sleeper and it wasn't triggering at all because of angles, there are an uncomfortable amount of mechanics that key off FOV

analog flicker
wary tapir
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25 LOOKING FOR 2 PLAYERS

rose nova
foggy plankBOT
rose nova
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use the lfg channels pls

rose nova
# wary tapir 25 LOOKING FOR 2 PLAYERS

and also
ask to not be carried, be sure to do the tutorial first [Training] in case u havent, start on rundown 1 if ur new and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur vc

autumn bobcat
stray kindle
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Guys can somone help me out everytime i start the game it instantly crashes

flat perch
stray kindle
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great game

flat perch
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bugfree 🙂

rose nova
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can b funky

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i still like it

stray kindle
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know i can wait 12 hours :))))

flat perch
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sorry to see ppl hit weird rare stuff, like amd + r2b4 and this

stray kindle
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ah nah only 3 but still 3 hours to much

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and maybe its not even fixesd

vagrant garnet
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they hide them self among the team... so idk who to report.

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there alots of group going on yes... but some time you find modders and hackers... and bad team mate... some mission need good team work. likeR2E1

hexed veldt
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All lobbies I joined today were modded. :/

analog flicker
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Just differentiate the difference between modded and hacker

winged narwhal
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Yeah there are plenty of mods that aren't malicious

junior latch
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and the actual modding community also doesnt use it to ruin games

winged narwhal
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I will be the first to admit that I use mods but they're all clientside ones that don't actually affect gameplay like a ragdoll multiplier, because it's funny to watch a dead striker fly into the ceiling

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I'll turn them off if someone's super pissy about it for some reason but it's not like I'm actively cheating with them

serene berry
vestal crystal
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Genshin flashlight user spotted

ivory pier
sharp owl
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Ok wesley

primal osprey
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dis MERICA!!

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🔴⚪️🔵

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peter : "whoever dont like gtfo is gay"

everyone else: "i like gtfo"

valid pewter
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OMFGGGG R4 IS COMING TOMORROW, THE DEV JUST LEAKED THRU MY DM OMGGG 😱

raw shard
primal osprey
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shawty fuckin da guys. how yu not a whore?😭✌️

sharp owl
frozen harbor
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Hi everyone o/,
Any UI/Video settings i need to tweak?

gray pilot
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Up your fov

modern coral
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^

pine root
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120 fov or bust

modern coral
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More of a 75 FoV enjoyer, here.

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Gotto get that middle-ground.

pine root
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The is no hyper high fov for gtfo

wicked solstice
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i use 85, but we can all agree default is horrible

pine root
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100%

wicked solstice
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it was fun for me the first time

gray pilot
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Turn off sprint shake too

wicked solstice
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is there a big reason for that?

gray pilot
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And turn off motion blur

gray pilot
wicked solstice
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mmm motion blur

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i hate

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ig i just like the sprint bob

gray pilot
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Not a fan 😅

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I get sea sick from that option 🤢

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There is a screen shake option too

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Turn it off

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For explosions etc

frozen harbor
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FOV, first thing i changed 😄
I also changed the way the text is displayed in game i didn't really like the weird shadowy/blurry background type thing
Got any more suggestions?

gray pilot
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You can lower the text scale if you UI aswell

pine root
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Bind melee to a button that isn’t c

gray pilot
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Warden intel, compass, weapons etc

vestal crystal
wicked solstice
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ohhhh

frozen harbor
wicked solstice
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yeah kind of annoying but without the shake it feels weeeeird man

modern coral
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You can turn off weapon idle animation (weapon relax pose?) as well for thermals.

gray pilot
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Basically: turn off all the fancy cinematic/immersive options

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And you’re fine

frozen harbor
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Any way to turn down the "shake" when you get hit?

gray pilot
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No

frozen harbor
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its kinda brutal ngl 😄

jade iron
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aim punch is part of the gameplay

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i.e. taking hits is meant to be bad and impact your ability to complete game actions

frozen harbor
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Under advanced graphics settigs, anything i should change? literally chinese to me

gray pilot
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Depends on your rig

sharp owl
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muh immersion

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real ones play at 20 fov

pine root
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If you are brand new to it I would just test out settings and see your frames

vestal crystal
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turn off sound playing while windowed so you can tab out during drop

sharp owl
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I play on low cos I'm a REAL gaymer

vestal crystal
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HUGE

sharp owl
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turn off crosshair

vestal crystal
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turn it OFF

pine root
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Massive advice

sharp owl
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use precision rifle

pine root
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Shoot your teammates

sharp owl
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god tier advice

pine root
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If someone c foams a door

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Murder them

frozen harbor
sharp owl
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if your teammates dont bring shotgun sentry they're hard throwing and you shouldnt play with them

pine root
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Rebind melee key to something you can use

frozen harbor
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And "HUD pixel effects" this saved my eyes

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i still don't understand what HUD skewing does tho

pine root
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Turn off dialogue or turn it down

gray pilot
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Huge game changer

sharp owl
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turn off your monitor

gray pilot
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Dialogue volume and subtitles off

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Game becomes really good then

pine root
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I like the men wrestling in r7a1

sharp owl
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how am I supposed to hear dauddy talk then?

jade iron
sharp owl
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true

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im sorry I'll do better next time

pine root
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Tell them to use hel shoty

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No learning curve

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What so ever

sharp owl
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the best way to use hel shotty is mag dump your teammates

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easiest way to win the game

pine root
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You can kill 2 at once

sharp owl
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huge

ivory pier
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hel shotgun is a high skill weapon because you have to learn in what way to aim to hit as few different limbs as possible so that the penetration will actually work

frozen harbor
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bhoping is not a thing in GTFO right? XD

gray pilot
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Not anymore

sharp owl
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weellllll there is a wayyy PirateSimon

frozen harbor
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Any pogU content creator to watch?

sharp owl
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mmmmm there's this cool twitch streamer called fireblade, he kinda sux tho

torpid rose
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do NOT watch AnchorageJC as he is very toxic and a bad influence on the community

frozen harbor
sharp owl
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that is so sad team

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@gray pilot lift your game

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you have new players to impress

frozen harbor
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you just gave me the wrong nickname tho

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i searched for "fireblade"

sharp owl
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idfk his twitch lol

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last time I watched twitch was beth and beep e1 no bc

autumn bobcat
gray pilot
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Fody 55

autumn bobcat
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Some good tips and tricks fr fr

sharp owl
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gerzhull best twitch streamer (real)

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@frozen harbor professor scaler has some good guides for new players

gray pilot
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Deadlythegamerttv

frozen harbor
sharp owl
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best tip I can give is look for R4E1 in your lfgs

autumn bobcat
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damn i didnt know you streamed @gray pilot

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dropped a follow for ya

jade iron
gray pilot
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But thank you 🙏

sharp owl
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u did

autumn bobcat
gray pilot
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I’d stream gtfo if there was something to stream

sharp owl
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r4 next month

vestal crystal
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KOMEJI

sharp owl
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u just have to believe

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believe its real

gray pilot
vestal crystal
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😳

sharp owl
autumn bobcat
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oh lol 10 months ago

gray pilot
primal osprey
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join chat

sharp owl
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no

elfin osprey
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R3d1 pistol only: when the pistol got too motivated

merry crypt
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John wick run

elfin osprey
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U have more gun selection

merry crypt
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True

elfin osprey
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John wick run are all shotgun+ pistol+ ar + knife

merry crypt
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That sounds fun, would definitely change up they way you play the game with no tool

elfin osprey
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U still can use tool

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It is not no tool challange because john wick use everything he has around him

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He did use a pencil to smack 3 guys

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So tools are avalable

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u can do a pistol motivated run r3d1 ( no tools, no melee, 3 guns allowed are machine pistol, normal pistol( go for this if u want to feel the power of the storm that is aproching) and high cal pistol, booster are allowed in order to reach the unlimited power of the storm that is aproching)

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when the pistol listen to bury the light more than 180 min and got too motivated by the power of vergil

merry crypt
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Huh, I guess it's the pistol motavied run I thought was the John wick run then

analog flicker
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I was John wicking sleepers earlier today

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But a newbie kept waking up rooms regardless of our tips and etc.

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Guy said he didn't want to be slow and stealth

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Proceeded to request ammo and hp every few rooms

elfin osprey
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its not wrong that the guy want to go fast, its just wrong because he doesnt have experience

little ridge
tidal jay
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Anyone know how long till Alt R4?

modern coral
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June 1

tidal jay
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Sexy

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Is R4 hard

valid sigil
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Does anyone think the long range flashlight is kinda useless?

elfin osprey
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no

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dont u frecking dare doubt the power of the sun

wicked solstice
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somebody hasn’t played R2B4 yet

elfin osprey
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people dont know how op is the long range flash light

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it has the power of 1000 suns

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the power to blind every human being

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and the power to cook sleepers to absolute perfection

valid sigil
wicked solstice
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:)

valid sigil
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like, what if it was so bright it slowed down enemies

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while dealing some little damage

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like 1 damage per sec

burnt flume
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that would be silly

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you could infinitely kite enemies and safely kill them without risking HP or any other resources

wicked solstice
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It has a use already tbh

valid sigil
elfin osprey
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it already have the unlimited power of vergil

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that is more than enough to define the sun

valid sigil
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Dante's better

elfin osprey
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freck dante, he doenst have the ultimate motived move

valid sigil
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He doesn't need it

elfin osprey
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then he shall die, by tha power of the storm that is approching

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and tha power of the unlimited sun

valid sigil
analog flicker
# elfin osprey typical new players

While true. We were lenient with him for a good minute but I'm just like. A lot of this game is committing stealth. And even then his own stealth. Would be walk to enemy with spear waking them up and getting hit once then they kill it with spear

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He was also just starting doors early saying it's just a class 2 while 2 of us were far away

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Guy was either straight trolling or just treating the game like Left 4 dead

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I can get someone who doesn't know mechanics but listen to advice in what they did wrong and improve upon it

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But this guy doesn't do that and just repeats his mistake every other minute

elfin osprey
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then relise that a lot of people want to take their time

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so now, i have to go adapt style

analog flicker
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I joined mid R1A1 and he woke every room. Next to the class 4 alarm with no doors. To use.

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The first alarm door too. That door was still intact.

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The door you would normally close to defend it.

elfin osprey
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tell him to uninstall the game

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or dont give him anymore advice

analog flicker
elfin osprey
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i think this is a psycologist stuff, but usually if u dont want to learn, u wont learn and listen

analog flicker
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I told him. His version of stealth.
He was 99% before entering the room and finished clearing it with 20%

elfin osprey
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when the knife was being sad

analog flicker
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This was in R1B1

elfin osprey
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i still hate the fact that u cant headshot with knife if u stand too close to the enemy

analog flicker
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Distancing issue imo

elfin osprey
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the animation look like ur stabbing in the head but in reality, no

analog flicker
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Practice and get a feel for it

modern coral
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More jank, but it is what it is.

analog flicker
elfin osprey
analog flicker
elfin osprey
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he is still ray, but alternative ray

modern coral
analog flicker
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Either I'm dumb or never noticed it was rayaloft the whole fuckin time

elfin osprey
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the alt verson

modern coral
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For like a week.

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maybe 3 days

analog flicker
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I see

modern coral
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The only possible explanation is that you've been sucked into a new dimension where my name has always been this way.

shrewd portal
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how tf do i deal with scouts

analog flicker
elfin osprey
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welp, what else can u do with scout

analog flicker
shrewd portal
analog flicker
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Knife/bat. Full charge to the back of head

burnt flume
# shrewd portal how tf do i deal with scouts

Full charge hammer/spear to head
Full charge bat/knife to back of head

shoot back of head with hel gun/revolver
shoot head or back with high cal pistol or whatever the fuck I don't remember every fucking gun in the game

or sniper or whatever

elfin osprey
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but to be honest, hammer and spear aim for the head full charge

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other melee to the back of the head full charge

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some guns kill scout

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not all guns kill scout

elfin osprey
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also some guns need u to hit it at the back of the head

shrewd portal
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there so annoying istg

analog flicker
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Sniper while it does the job. It is very overkill on normal scouts

elfin osprey
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ray be like: where is tha scout, im gonna smack him in tha hed

analog flicker
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That's any experienced player ngl

burnt flume
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scouts are not scary

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they cannot hurt you

elfin osprey
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they will tecticle u heheee

analog flicker
elfin osprey
analog flicker
burnt flume
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charger scouts were a mistake

elfin osprey
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love the tenticle Hackett_Heart

burnt flume
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but shadow scouts rawrchLove

analog flicker
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Charger scouts are fine

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Why you hating on the black scout

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Smh

burnt flume
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oh, so the shadow scouts aren't black now? wow

elfin osprey
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hee

analog flicker
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If they were visible and could actually see them. Maybe

elfin osprey
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18+tenticle scout

analog flicker
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LF that old game suggestion about an absolute Unit that would like block an entire zone

junior latch
analog flicker
junior latch
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never

little ridge
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Hical CAN kill scouts by double shotting the back (not occiput, just back)

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There was a discussion about this some weeks ago and I remember it being proven but the time window to do it is very very very small

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When I started playing, in R4, I also remember someone mentioning it being possible with hel revo to occiput if you are fast/stagger enough, but back then I couldn't discerne trolling from actual information and I never bothered to test it or to check the numbers

little ridge
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Ah right

arctic edge
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any on?

frozen harbor
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So i'm playing solo with 3 bots, how do i tell them to stack up and melee a feeler?

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Second time they let me down and just watch me kill it solo

analog flicker
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They will not melee anything outright on their own in stealth

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They might melee a enemy you woke up nearby

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Otherwise killing scouts and meleeing stealth is majority yourself

serene berry
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if they are nearby, and something wakes up, they will usually start charging their melee until they get a full charge. but if they are a little too far or they aren't in the mood, they might not.

analog flicker
serene berry
frozen harbor
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So what's my best way to approach the big dude and feelers with bots? I'm def not experienced enough to solo

analog flicker
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(Bots don't make any sounds whatsoever so they would only wake up enemies if they actually accidentally hit them with bullets)

serene berry
serene berry
frozen harbor
analog flicker
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You'll probably have to full charge breaking limb at a time with each charge

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Watching your distance

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As to not get smacked

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Some variance since your bots might melee/shoot it or die to it

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Worst case. Your bots shoot you

junior latch
analog flicker
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Bots in the code sound is set to zero

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Even touching them technically

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So tendrils iirc can just go through them just fine without alerting

wicked solstice
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the pellets are really good at waking up sleepers

analog flicker
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But gun shots that make contact with a sleeping enemy will ofc 100% wake enemies up.
If they shot and didn't hit any sleeping enemies. Youre good

analog flicker
junior latch
thick temple
junior latch
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thats basically the interaction i presumed. And that goes against the "bots wake up an enemy and that enemy runs around" that some people throw around

analog flicker
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hence daky mentioned giving them shotguns

junior latch
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nah the thing is
they just wont shoot when i try to test it

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they melee if close enough

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or freeze and charge melee

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they only started shooting whenever they room was up or the enemies were suuper far way

analog flicker
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it's rare enough as is to do it intentionally ngl

little ridge
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I had that same thing happen once when they shot something I woke up (they had hel guns) and the bullet penned to a sleeping enemy and it was exactly like in that video

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I dont have video of it but it's the same

rough robin
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just stood idly, not doing the 'sleeping' animation

burnt flume
rough robin
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end result is basically the same, i waddled up to him and he just stood there

serene berry
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menacingly

analog flicker
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on average that wouldn't happen

rough robin
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yeah lot of fuckery with bots

modern coral
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Awake enemies screaming but deciding to target bots is always nice.

primal osprey
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Wake Up! time to grind! earlybird gets da worm

willow knoll
serene berry
winged narwhal
analog flicker
autumn bobcat
pine root
wicked solstice
autumn bobcat
tardy dawn
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Any information on when Rundown 4 is coming out?

rough robin
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soon™️

tardy dawn
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Where did you get this information?

pine root
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@grizzled bison

zealous aspen
pine root
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June 1

grizzled bison
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Henry didn't get the memo. It's June 1st, the date was posted awhile ago.

rough robin
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Why can't it be tomorrow

grizzled bison
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Because tomorrow isn't June 1st

eternal maple
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One of my new favorite things is asking Chatgpt to create levels for GTFO, It came up with the idea to have security cameras and motions sensors which I think would be dope af

gritty prawn
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@thick temple we did R2D2 😄

thick temple
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yo nice lol, i didn't catch the end cause i don't wanna get anything spoiled lol

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gl on e1, haven't seen it myself yet so dunno anything about it

gritty prawn
thick temple
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i agree, i had a lot of fun with it as far as we got lol

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and i'm looking forward to trying more in about an hour :p

gritty prawn
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GL with it!

sharp owl
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hi

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i'm r7 b2 and i'm unsure how to unlock the last door

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for zone 131

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im at the local terminal

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but i don't understand whats the command

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any help pelase

merry crypt
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you should be able to type "COMMANDS" into the terminal

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it'll show the list of commands and the command needed to unlock the door

sharp owl
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OH

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thanks

merry crypt
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gl

devout valve
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Ищу русскоговорящих

serene berry
amber hazel
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,

serene cove
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Does anyone know how to do R7C2 Prisoner Efficiency that can help?

merry crypt
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wdym by that? like what steps you need to do to complete it?

serene cove
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Well yeah someone who knows how to do it that can join us

wicked solstice
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there's a tutorial as well if you want it

serene cove
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We're on overload rn

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One person left cos wifi was turned off

merry crypt
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so you're looking for somone to do PE with you?

serene cove
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With us

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We're in VC 1

rose nova
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u can find people in the lfg

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.t lfg

foggy plankBOT
neon spoke
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are charger scouts bugged or something

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this guy keeps extending even though nobody is near it or moving

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he retracts and immediately extends again

sharp owl
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stop shining ur light on it

neon spoke
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flashlights aren't on

rough robin
rough robin
serene berry
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did you remember to shower?

rough robin
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Honestly with how the prisoners look i'd believe it. they smell us

hollow quarry
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That far below ground it's pretty warm as well. It will be smelly.

little ridge
burnt flume
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ah here we go, the turkish cheater is back

junior latch
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took em 1 hour to clear r3a2 with full cheats

burnt flume
#

reporting on twitch and steam out of spite

#

would be funny to see them banned

junior latch
#

unlikely

#

twitch rarely cares about pvp cheat streamers even

elfin osprey
#

even with hack cannot help the lack of skill

#

how pathetic

#

we, without hack, clear r3a2 faster than hack

floral verge
#

any tips for R2c2 without any spoilers?

analog flicker
#

1 hour

#

What the hell

analog flicker
last parrot
modern coral
#

If you're playing CS or Revo, go for one-taps on strikers from the error wave.

#

If you miss the one-tap, finish with your Main to conserve ammo.

#

I'd recommend against setting up on closed doors, as that tends to require more setup time and planning things around error wave spawns.

#

It's easier to just have sentries set up, and then pull alarms whenever you're good to go.

floral verge
#

do you think trading hp to save ammo against the error sleepers is worth it?

modern coral
#

I tend to prefer spending ammo over health, but that's because I'm usually not struggling with ammo.

#

Spending health also means you can take more time if your group is slower or having trouble finding where things are.

#

Since you can survive at 20 and just hold medipacks until you're about to start something.

floral verge
#

is there a lot of giants in R2C2? or not that much?

modern coral
#

There are a moderate number that you have to deal with.

floral verge
#

alright, thank you, very helpful

modern coral
#

npnp

elfin osprey
#

hacker always suffer that

elfin osprey
#

also right is always right

sand meadow
#

where is R4

elfin osprey
#

better question: when r4

analog flicker
#

Re-releasing the rundowns as ALTs. And they are not being removed as the next comes anymore

#

I still remember new players back then being extremely upset about rundowns being removed despite it being a normal thing to the community.

wispy bluff
#

Removing content is generally considered not a great move.

#

The only exceptions are when it literally doesn't work or too outdated.

#

There's gotta be a good excuse for making the game less.

silk spear
#

does any1 have a clip of the r7e1 bug where pablo spawns after the teleportation back?

burnt flume
ivory pier
#

incorrect if you were told that it would be removed

eternal maple
#

How would you guys rank the rundowns on difficulty (Not including the alts)

wicked solstice
#

oh boy

coarse grail
wicked solstice
#

iirc OG R2/4/5 have always been considered on the harder side, while R3/6 were considered easier

#

wait ur putting 7 above 2? damn

#

i can't judge tho

#

never played og R2

eternal maple
#

Honestly I still really enjoy R7

wicked solstice
#

I enjoy (most) of R7

eternal maple
#

Even though its been out for so long

coarse grail
#

R2E1 was harder than anything in R7 but I think there were a good number of hard levels in R7 compared to the others in R2

eternal maple
#

E1 still sucks tho

wicked solstice
#

so kinda like the R4 to 5 relation

coarse grail
#

Exactly

wicked solstice
#

kk gotchu

#

i hope R6 gets buffed a bit ._.

junior latch
# wicked solstice iirc OG R2/4/5 have always been considered on the harder side, while R3/6 were c...

R2 was never close to 4 and 5
OG R2 was probably the hardest in relation to community skill i guess (1 aside since people were dead ass new)

6 being easy was overblown af. The rundown obviously lacks the E1 spike. But C2, C3, D2, D3, D4 and even DX are all comparable or harder than D1/D2. And thats ignoring their sheer volume

For 2 vs 6, 2 starts harder but doesnt ramp as much. It has the higher peek with r2e1 but R6 overall is more difficult on level to level basis

7 is a very similar case. B3, C2, C3, D1 (bugs aside), D2 and E1 are all around or higher than D and E of R2 imo

Altho theres also the pre nerf R2 which has stuff buffed like B1 being a class 9

junior latch
coarse grail
#

I was thinking that perhaps the optionals diff might make 2/6 closer

eternal maple
#

Yeah I honestly can't wait for R5. Never got past b1 back when it came out

coarse grail
#

R5 is the rundown I've got the most stuff I didn't beat the first time through too

eternal maple
#

You lnow what heres another question. Whats the hardest E-Tier?

coarse grail
#

From what I've heard, R4E1

wicked solstice
#

i think that one is pretty unanimous

quartz cape
#

i feel like its easier to save a failing r4e1 than it is to save a failing r7e1, but its pretty close

little ridge
#

Anything prior to R5 also didnt have boosters

#

And anything prior to R6 didn't have checkpoint

#

I feel like it's hard to make a comparison without considering at least the fact that R6-7 have checkpoints

#

That being said, it also shows how hard R5 was even if it had boosters

wicked solstice
#

iirc didn't a lot of veteran players just ignore checkpoints bc of how buggy they were

little ridge
#

Personally I cant answer since the question specifically ruled out Alt and I started on R4

junior latch
fair escarp
#

Funny enough r5 is around the same difficulty of r4. The only real difference between the 2 is that r5 was more punishing for mistakes made by players

#

See OG r5D1 extreme before all the nerfs

junior latch
fair escarp
#

If you both compare them in light of no mistakes made than they are the same difficulty

rose nova
#

if no mistakes r made all the levels are kinda the same

fair escarp
#

Not really

little ridge
#

Isn't error margin a considerable value added to how easy something is?

junior latch
#

if you make no mistakes stuff is all easy to do

rose nova
#

i do not get this point at all

fair escarp
#

The most punishing level is still in r4 though being 4 mom room

#

Every level in r5 allows a couple of mistakes and still be fine

junior latch
#

Ressources and ability to pick people up are both ways where mistakes (using too many ressources/going down) change the difficulty

give r7e1 more ressources and its more lenient on players. Suddenly the level is easier

junior latch
fair escarp
#

If you make 1 mistake in r4e1 reactor that cause moms up. 99% of the time it is game over

#

That is 1 mistake. R5 doesn't jave that. It did in the on release r5d1 extreme but that's it. After the nerf it wasn't the case

rose nova
#

its just weird cause
a1 gives u more room to make mistakes, but e1 doesnt
so its easier
but this is also the point u denied
cause u said r5 is same as r4 but r5 is more punishing

#

so this is all like circling back to 'more punishing mistakes makes the level harder'

fair escarp
#

The layout of A1 are a lot easier then the one you see in e1

little ridge
#

It's not like R4 and R5 only had Es...

#

R4C1 Extreme was a breeze compared to R5C1's

#

And that's also because you could do way more mistakes in R4's

fair escarp
#

You can judge and compare difficulty based on their alarms/layout/enemies.

Punishment is just added afterward

junior latch
#

waking up the gigantic Scout giant rooms in C1 musicmommyDed

fair escarp
#

So if you compare it with the bases of the difficulty. They are the same

rose nova
#

i think it all adds up

#

i think those r all part of 'difficulty'

#

as a whole

junior latch
#

yep

punishment has lots of layers

little ridge
fair escarp
#

R5's design is all around punishing mistake harshly

sharp owl
#

wth is up with the bots

#

we had an S class I alarm they just wouldn't enter the scan

#

we fought until we lost all our ammo man

#

WTH

fair escarp
#

R4's design is design into pushing the players to move forward constantly

rose nova
sharp owl
#

it happens randomly?

rose nova
#

also happens when a player just runs away from the scan with the bots followin em, but i guess u were playin 3 bots so

sharp owl
#

i had my bioscan boosters prepped for it

#

no

#

duo with two bots

#

my friend and i were in the scan

#

the bots were just shooting

#

staying outside of it

coarse grail
#

You can remove the bots and then add them back after

#

Its not ideal but you can progress the scan that way

sharp owl
#

well

#

can i remove them mid combat?

#

incase it happens again

coarse grail
#

Yeah

sharp owl
#

how

rose nova
#

u can remove em at any point

coarse grail
#

You press escape and change the lobby slot from "Players/bots" to " closed" or "players only"

sharp owl
#

bots are somewhat useful since they don't account for visibility like us in foggy or dark areas

#

oh

#

i will do it

coarse grail
#

then you can change it back to bring them back in afterwards

sharp owl
#

yeah

#

bots are buggy as hell man

#

tho

rose nova
#

i think it does happens randomly sometimes, its not often, but r7c2 just doesnt like bots i think and it doesnt let em scan

sharp owl
#

we're clearing 4 sleepers at once and they start shooting

rose nova
#

i mean they dont go for it

last parrot
#

the only two times ive encountered this bug was in error alarms

coarse grail
#

even if they shoot they haven't woken the room

sharp owl
#

fr
?

coarse grail
#

bots cannot wake sleepers like that

rose nova
#

thats not as a bug

#

as much as it is a mechanic

#

they play defensively

sharp owl
#

only if the room wakes uP?

#

i had times where i was finishing 3 sleepers

#

and the last sleepers woke up

rose nova
#

yes, or if u got enemies behind i think

sharp owl
#

they started shooting

#

the rest of the room was fine

little ridge
#

Point is they have loud silencers and actually make no noise

#

They can shoot and not wake stuff up, human players do not have that privilege

rose nova
sharp owl
#

yeahh

#

playing with bots might prove difficult at some point in the run

rose nova
#

for example, area A and B from a zone can b connected, if A wakes up, they shoot, but B can b quiet even if its the same room

sharp owl
#

such as mine placement or c foam launcher usage

rose nova
#

give em a bio n sentries, they work better with it, if u can, u should use the mines and the foam

sharp owl
#

yeah

#

i mea

rose nova
#

specially if u r doin duos

sharp owl
#

i was thinking of letting one of us having a sentry

#

since sometimes i don't do the chokepoints well

#

so i use the player for sentry flexibility

#

but i guess it doesn't really matter

#

since its the same thing pretty much

#

i always pack 2 sentries one mine deployer + c foam

rose nova
#

yeah, preps before alarms doesnt really change at all
i mean if u wake a big room u might have some problems cause u cant put it down as fast but, bots excel at shootin too so

sharp owl
#

so

#

i should leave the sentries for bots?

rose nova
#

probs
and u could benefit from a biotracker in a bot too

#

always nice to have one

sharp owl
#

i haven't used a bio tracker in the entire game

rose nova
#

even on a 4 people group, but bots just b nice with it

sharp owl
#

not even in shadow situations

rose nova
#

u should

#

u really should

sharp owl
#

instead of what

#

?

#

sentry?

rose nova
#

depends on the level, if u see foam not being great in a level u could swap it

#

other than that the usual is mines foam a sentry n bio

#

but of course u can change it in base of the level

sharp owl
#

yh im doing c1 right now

rose nova
#

i think ur doin r7c1

#

yeah

sharp owl
#

lol

rose nova
#

i had mines 2 sentries and a bio for that

sharp owl
#

yeah i noticed c foam

#

i mean the weren't any doors

#

and the foam makes it hard

#

to see

junior latch
#

Biotracker be absolutely goated

rose nova
#

thank u bio

#

but yeah foam isnt gonna get u a lot in c1

#

so u can swap it

sharp owl
#

do bots use bio tracker automatically?

rose nova
#

yeah

sharp owl
#

man

#

thats actually great

rose nova
#

its the only tool they use by emselves

sharp owl
#

i might swap bio for sentry permanently

#

and leave a burst for stun

#

are there any levels in which u prefer shotgun or sniper over the balanced burst?

rose nova
#

mh
shotgun no, never

junior latch
#

its nearly always the best choice to have a bio

rose nova
#

well
maybe r1c2 but only in some parts but even then it isnt worth

junior latch
#

no

#

no shotgun sentry

rose nova
#

sniper tho, in levels with long corridors or lots of bigs works nice

junior latch
#

bad slendo

rose nova
sharp owl
#

do snipers one shot giants?

junior latch
#

2 shots (sniper sentry)

#

sniper (gun) 1 shots

rose nova
#

no, but does some dmg

sharp owl
#

i don't encounter problems with them since i just stun them from burst or choke mode shotgun

#

whats the down time for sniper sentry between shots

junior latch
#

ass without biotracker

#

decent with it

sharp owl
#

hmm

junior latch
#

it recently got a hefty nerf

sharp owl
#

i'm unsure if i should take burst or sentry

junior latch
#

since it was absolutely not balanced

sharp owl
#

balanced

#

i mean burst

#

or sniper

junior latch
#

burst is the easy choice

sharp owl
#

damn

rose nova
#

ok its 3 sec between shots 2 with bio
i mean
2.3 but u know

junior latch
#

sniper is situational. Youll know when it might be a decent choice later on

rose nova
#

yeah sniper isnt out of the question, just needs the right place to work

sharp owl
#

long corridors

#

well

#

as for weapons

#

which do you reccomend?

rose nova
#

i recommend u try em all

junior latch
rose nova
#

tbh

junior latch
#

try em all

afterwards avoid bullpup and precision rifle (also spear)

rose nova
#

u can like or dislike some weapons but at the end, they r all usable

sharp owl
#

why not spear?

rose nova
#

u can tell the use of a gun if its short range long range dmg values ammo mag size all that stuff

sharp owl
#

i find it good for scouts

rose nova
#

and u should work around it

#

also spear cause u cant run with it

#

and does less base dmg than hammer

#

it does more precision dmg but u gotta hit heatshots

#

and it also uses stamina shoving

sharp owl
#

yeah i don't have an aim problem

rose nova
#

[right click]

sharp owl
#

but i'll use the hammer then

rose nova
#

the knife can b nice if its a level full of smalls too

sharp owl
#

actually

rose nova
#

cause needs headshots but its much faster

#

even tho it doesnt touch big ones at all

sharp owl
#

whats the better weapon for crowd control

#

for giants as well

#

hammer

#

or the bat

rose nova
#

for bigs, hammer

#

has more dmg

#

for smalls knife cause is fast as fuck

elfin osprey
#

Hammer is the all mighty god tier

rose nova
#

and bat if ur bad at aiming cause it staggers with one click

sharp owl
#

i think hammer is pretty good

rose nova
#

thats why i use it

elfin osprey
#

U cant never doubt the hammer

rose nova
#

long live the bat aaa

sharp owl
#

does the knife one head?

elfin osprey
rose nova
#

yeah oneshots in the head of smols enemies

elfin osprey
rose nova
#

but its very bad on bigs

sharp owl
#

whats level should i use it

#

i mean i encounter sleeping bigs most of the time

rose nova
#

u shall see
levels that arent big intensive

elfin osprey
rose nova
#

yeah

sharp owl
#

fr?

elfin osprey
#

1 knife 3 hammer always work

sharp owl
#

yeah but i'm playing with bots

#

i need to stagger

rose nova
#

if ur runnin duos u can just
have one person hammer and let the bots help em when killin big ones asleep

sharp owl
#

or else it'll wake up the room

elfin osprey
#

Hanmer then

coarse grail
#

🔨

sharp owl
#

yeah i will do that

#

i'll take knife

elfin osprey
#

Best do everything in 1 thing melee

#

Hammer

rose nova
#

i use bat n 3 bots and the bots help a lot when takin down bigs

sharp owl
#

i mean hammer sounds rlly good

rose nova
sharp owl
#

but knife sounds even better

rose nova
elfin osprey
junior latch
little ridge
#

Get the hammer dude

elfin osprey
#

I will have fun with big boiii

rose nova
#

i stagger full charge

little ridge
#

Knife has things it's just not good at dealing with imho

sharp owl
#

well

#

whats imho

junior latch
#

in my honest opinion

rose nova
#

knife 3 hammers should be enough for most levels, u have bots to back u up

little ridge
#

In My Humble Opinion

rose nova
#

and u can have fun with it

rose nova
#

but why

#

thats boring

#

i dont like the hammer

#

fuck the hammer

#

i only use it when its necessary

coarse grail
#

boos

wicked solstice
#

ehhh a bat can be nice

rose nova
#

thank u

little ridge
rose nova
#

praise the bat bat is nice thank u kovak peacekepeer bat

junior latch
#

i mean
Liking/using smth is fine

sharp owl
#

i really don't know

little ridge
#

I've enough checkpoints and vaes to make it

sharp owl
#

if i should go for 1 knife 3 hammers

#

or 4 hammers

junior latch
#

but hammer is just gonna be the choice 9/10 times

rose nova
#

doesnt hurt to do couple runs with it

little ridge
rose nova
#

see if u like it

#

and then go

little ridge
#

they just always have the same melee

junior latch
sharp owl
#

yeah i will

wicked solstice
#

bot melee is cosmetic

sharp owl
#

whats afaik bot melee

rose nova
#

also just dont equip the bots with spear, cause they dont run with it

sharp owl
#

i never will

rose nova
#

put hammers on em doesnt matter

#

they act the same

rose nova
#

yeah

coarse grail
rose nova
#

they dont run chargin with spear

wicked solstice
#

ur joking

rose nova
#

no im pretty sure i think

wicked solstice
#

._.

rose nova
#

i tried it, they dont run

#

its kinda funny

sharp owl
#

so knife is good for smalls hammer is the best overall

#

since its balanced

rose nova
#

pretty much

sharp owl
#

bat is good for stun

#

spear in very rare ocassions

#

but mostly no

coarse grail
#

spear is long

rose nova
#

i dont like sayin this but hammer n bat have about the same
stagger

#

bat just does it quicker

coarse grail
#

but its so long its dangerous to run with it or you might trip

sharp owl
#

i liked spear for the spartan drop on scouts

rose nova
#

cause it has less charge

little ridge
#

And so we used hammer.

wicked solstice
#

spear long

rose nova
#

hammer is like 1 sec of charge bat is 0.5 or so, but they stagger the same

sharp owl
#

wow

rose nova
#

i just use it cause its quick mostly

sharp owl
#

thanks for the insight guys

#

i was playing the game somewhat wrong

rose nova
#

its aight

junior latch
#

@sharp owl knife is good for quick small killing

Bat is good for smash locks

Hammer is good for all (somewhat worse than the 2 above at their mentions)

Spear is bad. It only has minor extra range in exchange for shit ass downsides

wicked solstice
coarse grail
#

most important is for you to follow your own path

rose nova
#

we all do, and no u arent all guns n stuff r usable

sharp owl
#

no wonder i had melee problems on 3+ sleepers at once

rose nova
#

they r there for a reason

wicked solstice
#

just learning to play better

coarse grail
#

You have the information but follow your own vibe

rose nova
#

spear is fkin great for learning, ive always said it, its nice for sneakin n stuff

junior latch
rose nova
#

ah there

coarse grail
#

Slendi knows in his heart the hammer is best but he still uses his baton

rose nova
#

yes

#

bat is just nice

#

thank u bat

junior latch
#

i mean its fine to use it

rose nova
#

faltaria mas

#

would b awful if it was wrong to use it

wicked solstice
#

bat is, in my opinion, the most viable out of the not-hammers

rose nova
#

:]c

sharp owl
#

so

#

i'll just test the knife and hammer

#

see what happens

#

doesn't hurt

#

btw

rose nova
#

yeah u go in n have fun

sharp owl
#

one more question

#

are the lower levels doable with bots?

wicked solstice
#

technically

rose nova
#

with duo, yes but will b hard

#

3 bots some r impossible tho

coarse grail
#

With 2 people and 2 bots you should get by but it is difficult

wicked solstice
#

but for you, probably not

#

no offese

#

offnense\

junior latch
#

well they could improve

#

but ye

wicked solstice
#

just being realiztic

sharp owl
#

hey man

rose nova
#

i mean they just need some skill but they r all possible with duo

sharp owl
#

i finished r3

#

back in my day

#

!

wicked solstice
#

there are people who have done all levels with bots

rose nova
#

back in my days we completed r3 solo no bots!
sorry
had to

wicked solstice
sharp owl
#

lol

#

r3 solo

rose nova
#

i dont think thats true buuuuuuuuut who am i to say otherwise

coarse grail
#

solo (with bots)?

junior latch
serene cove
#

Me Before I Started Playing: Ooo I really want the Convex Scorpian Mark I
Me 57 Apparel Later: Ooo I really want the Convex Scorpian Mark I

sharp owl
#

i never finished 43

#

r3 solo

wicked solstice
#

i think Tnenpi wa the closest

sharp owl
#

how many hours do you have in the game?

junior latch
#

and well, r7d1 needs godly luck and or cheese/glitching

junior latch
sharp owl
#

i'm really curious about the skill difference

serene cove
rose nova
#

200 or so hahaha haha
ha

#

i started on r7

coarse grail
#

1300 or thereabout

wicked solstice
#

i have like 875

sharp owl
#

well

#

i only haev 70

#

have 70

#

since i only played r3 picked it back up on 47

rose nova
#

hey by the 100 u r more than capable

wicked solstice
#

hours don't really matter

#

imo

rose nova
sharp owl
#

well

#

dakstar

#

i'll finish r7

junior latch
#

100 is when you stop being a newbie usually

wicked solstice
#

there are people with thousands of hours who cheat

rose nova
#

daks

sharp owl
#

i'll rpove u wrong

rose nova
#

WOOOOO

#

:D

coarse grail
#

R7 with 2 bots will be challenging, good luck

sharp owl
#

lemme friend request u

#

so

#

challenge me a level

wicked solstice
#

no i believe u

rose nova
#

thats kinda funny lmao

sharp owl
#

in two days i'll send you

wicked solstice
#

kk

sharp owl
#

screenshot

coarse grail
#

E1 😂

sharp owl
#

with it finished

rose nova
#

jesus

sharp owl
#

no dakstar must tell me

wicked solstice
#

oh wait do you know whats in E1?

sharp owl
#

what level

rose nova
#

just make em do c3 thats hard enough

little ridge
#

😄

sharp owl
#

i have no idea whats in E1

rose nova
#

oh this is gonna end up bad

wicked solstice
sharp owl
#

i'm currently c1 just finished b3 overdrive and secondary

junior latch
#

yeah if you only have 2 days

#

you wont get E1 done with 2 players 2 bots

sharp owl
#

yeahhh

rose nova
#

2 days for e1 thats fkin nuts

sharp owl
#

well

wicked solstice
#

e1 is a little

#

sus

sharp owl
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so

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dakstar

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tell me

rose nova
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u could do it in a week of just pure grind

junior latch
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maybe if you grind most of the days away and get advice/spoil yourself

wicked solstice
sharp owl
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the level

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ur telling me to do

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in 2 days i'll send u a pic

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i don't manage to do it

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it means i played until i offed myself

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and stillf ailed

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and still failed

junior latch
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R7D1 would also be crazy with overload for that

wicked solstice
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i mean I'm not telling u to do it