#gtfo-chat
1 messages · Page 11 of 1
I really hope we have to wait for alt r4
is there?
While the R4 with the Extended forms a whole, it would require to ship all 12 expeditions at the same time (an unprecedented amount so far)
The difference being: they were already made
!!
It's not like they need to make 12 new levels
yes
Making a false ——-> true very hard@
They will still need to be properly tested by their internal Delivery team, and considering the amount of layers and the size of the expeditions, it will take a while
Calle hinted that R4 release was already decided
So its done basically
the base is already present
I guess we will just wait and see then :)
Also again, it's not testing a new rundown
Maybe they have done most of the rework, but are hard at testing right now
So the levels are still in the game rn
It would be great, because it would mean that they would have kept a healthy amount of testing time
They are just disabled
I do agree that one intern will need time to test everything
Although so far the state we got the Alt://Rundowns is very clean compared to the initial release
The only few things that might be broken is the seeding/ and waves/chain puzzle being overwritten
In terms of "remaining issues"
and are usually fixed by a single post-delivery patch
I mean doors haven’t been solid since r2
I am very excited to try it out though ; I might join the "When R4" group...
When r4
shut up
😂
*laughs in bugs
when R4
i will defenestrate you
Pls do
R4 is never coming
Bitte Ja Treffer me
the ground does more of the hitting in this situation
this is fixed in cyberheist
cyberheist addresses this issue
cyberheist has R4?
what's cyberheist
Gtfo 2
gtfo but cyberheist and without the gt nor the fo
the reason GTFO gets almost no updates
10C's futuristic PayDay 3
oh, their upcoming game.... yeah im probably gunna pass on it, they abandoned gtfo's original vision of doing regular rundown updates
How long before they abandon cyberheist too
exactly
Ong frfr
oh ny god
cyberheist addresses these issues
Man hopping in this game for the first time today is wild
you'll do fine don't worry
Is Randoms cool to play with?
Sad thing is most of my friends don't have a PC to play on
Does anyone have any tips on how to find other gtfo players from my country? Given it doesnt have a dedicated discord server like other countries do. Im from Portugal btw
also also
some advice
ask to not be carried, be sure to do the tutorial first [Training]
make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur vc
You know what'd be funny.
If they added a gamma bar... but its max was a whopping 1% increase.
No country has a dedicated GTFO Discord. Not official ones anyway. Try Europe.
yeah not officials but welcome to highlighted communities
a ton of servers
and some of em are for
some countries
i'd forgotten portugal was in europe, for some reason i thought it was south america lol
sounds like a latin america country yeah
somethin besides brazil
besides is not the word
at the side of brazil
thats why i said it too
cause both countries speak the same lingo
should be
together
"Portugal's in South America homie." Nice one.
IT is a Wingo quote. Word for word.
whats wingo
WingsOfRedemption. Lolcow of lolcows. "I live in Virginia, I need a passport to go to Chicago."
"I eat fastfood and drink soda to lose limit my calorie intake."
i like wings that come from buffalo
speaking of buffalo, i suddenly remembered there's a sentence that can be formed using only that word
buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo
ik it probably means somethin im just not searching it
oh wait, it's 8 buffalos, not 7
4 is defo easier since bots can be funk to play with
but duo is... possible on all levels if im not wrong, or at least the big majority
yeah every level can be duo'd without cheesing
some will be hell to do though thanks to certified bot moments
R7D1 is not fun to do with bots when you're trying to close the doors behind you and they either dont enter the room with you or they phase through the door as it's closing
R2E1 for the run towards extraction is also gunna be incredibly difficult with bots
Aside from that, the bots can be better than certain players lol
they never wake up rooms, and they're basically seal team 6 when it comes to shooting assuming an enemy doesn't come within 5 meters from them, to which they'll pull out their melee weapon and stand there like idiots
their melee switching range should be reduced to 3m imo, there've been so many moments where they just swap to melee at the worst times when i need them to be shooting
"duo" means 2 players and no bots
OP didn't specify, if he's asking how important is playing as 4 im assuming he's relatively new to the game and therefore will be using bots
Tbh 400


Like I had a guy not ready up for 5 mins cause he was waiting for my duo to get on
I would not like to play any of the E1 as duo. I do not think I could pull it off.
this is exactly why i assumed bots but i guess
if you scroll all the way down, you can use the 2 person channels, that might clear up any confusion
what does this even mean
Man you don’t understand
I was in hotdog
Like he was waiting for my friend to get on he didn’t understand he was the duo
lmao
wtf
I like duo squared
4 player solo is where it's at
4 player empty lobby
4 player bots
honestly
As new players, you'll eventually get hardstuck.
i wish i could send 4 bots into a level and just watch how badly things go for them, with some small tweaks like letting them open boxes and carry objective items reliably
eh, i think the game is pretty easy to learn, i dont think they'll get stuck
They would stand still at the beginning
Nice gaslighting 😅
it's not gaslighting, it didn't take me long at all to figure out how to play the game lol, everything is pretty intuitive
even the terminal is, but for whatever reason people are afraid to look at the screen
Honestly yeah if you have played games before
it literally tells you to type HELP or COMMANDS
this is exactly what i meant actually give the bot squad a specific next step ("go to this zone for the key") and watch things fall apart from there
you never played red light green light and it shows.
Bots could clear a teir levels no issue
you're saying completely new and inexperienced players can duo D and E levels?
Absolutely
if they're just playing together, they wouldn't have unlocked D or E levels until they've played a good bit
i didn't either and i still had no trouble learning it so what's your excuse?
matter of fact I never played this game
DJ isn’t a real human didn’t have a childhood. In fact dude just came into existence in this chat
damn spambots at it again
Yes
It was pretty hype tbh
In all seriousness we all know only some people managed to duo no cheese the whole game. It's not gonna be the masses
damn, doubting them before they can even show you what they've got
maybe they'll be the next big names people talk about for duos
sparing them money before they get needlessly frustrated and ragequit
i got several friends to buy GTFO just to tell me it's "too dark" and never played again lol
its not that dark
you get used to the darkness tbh
should've carried the flashlight to help out with that
yeah
but as new players i can see where the complaint is
go for it m8. Prove me wrong. I really hope you manage. But I doubt it
understandable
we were kinda struggling with our first d level in r7
but we read up on the map and then it was quite easy
r7d1 i think it was
the hardest part when i was duoing that was to get the bots to walk through the fucking doors lol
With hel gun it is much more accessible
To duo the whole game
Got a snazzy new HDR screen few hours ago. Should see if that makes the darkness better.
you'll get an even blacker black, vantablack
the only hard part about this game feels like the stealth part and the insane alarms
the gun system and simple ai movement makes it easy to hit consistent headshots
we'll see
what gets introduced that makes the game so unbelivably difficult as i keep hearing whispers about?
the stealth just takes getting used to
i thought this would be the hardest part too, but apparently running the command on the center terminal is too confusing for some people, even after i said the exact command and to press tab to autocomplete
after three failed confirmations i was like
ok i give up, you're going to run around now instead
lmao
I tried my best to explain what they were doing wrong, but there was no hope there.
what is expected from people in pubs/lfg?
some people were not meant to be running terminals
Went on an R7E1 run, one guy had to do terminal, we were occupied, I had cfoam, and he just flat out refused. "I dont do terminal, way too hard." Dead serious. So I told him the command, he refused, I typed it and told himto just hit enter as I foamed. He refused. I had to make a move, hit enter and rushed to the door, ofc too late. Run failed.
40% of gtfo players are terminal illiterate
R2C2 hour ago, same deal. "Terminal too hard, justy search for the cell I dont wanna ping."
this stat feels too low from my experience
I swear to God, half of the R7E1 hardstuck folks are hardstuck because they are incapable of using terminal.
i remember in R4D1 i told my guy the code was TOOL, and you'd have to be a FOOL to mess it up, this was the final word we had to do too... and he types in FOOL as the password and we had to do the extra wave and die on a 1+ hour run lol
It is the single easiest thing you can learn to dramatically boost your WR.
to be fair terminals require a bachelor in computer science
also has anyone made a comphrensive weapon guide, as in what weapons excel in when and how to use them?
i got you, ill pm it to you
i saw this really cool stealth guide the other day which helped me and my friend moumentally
here's my comprehensive weapons guide:
use whatever you're good with
you have direct messages disabled from strangers
try again 😭
it's not necessarily a "guide" but it is a chart i made since i couldn't find a good one anywhere lol
too many bots trying to induct me into their onlyfans pyramid scheme on discord these days
forgive me for being a bit weary
i didn't update the chart to include the weapons that got added last week
I played with a guy brought him to 4/4
And all he needed to do was finish the reactor
And he fucked it
I thought "Oh terminal? Cool." So I went and ls -a. Yeah I use terminals irl, ofc it didnt work. It is just list, query, ping, cls, info, and the odd special command you can find by commands. What kind of Apple user you gotta be to refuse that?
Me and exp person are carrying through.
I get first code, but exp person crashes.
So, we can't get the code in, because I can't get the other two people to do the terminal.
Tbf, iirc I don't think I was prepared for them to not know what we were doing.
So I realized they weren't paying any attention way late.
I soloed the reactor map on R1 that was pretty fun
I am worried for maps that get hard though with reactors

Honestly that guy does not deserve a clear
C3 PE has left the chat
I got a guy tried to start the reactor with Uplink_Connect
edit: luckily it was R2D2 so doesnt matter much
your still in D tier 2 rundowns into the game 😔😭
D2 is fun, turn off brain, just shoot.
Obv, that's not the point. the point is people just not learning basic mechanics
oh, got it. They should make it at the start of every run to open a door with terminal I swear lol
bro not learning the terminals is pretty much the equivalent of not using melee because its to "hard" when in reality they just dont wanna take a few minutes to figure it out
Less than 1000 players
just need to use a tiny bit of brainpower
bro the hardest part of terminals is trying to not hit the up arrow instead of shift on my 60% keyboard when i type a _
Pussy got me

bro left the server after saying this 
normal mccad behavior
Average gtfo discord moment
🇸🇬
Man, I forgot how short R3 was, 1 day to beat it all XD
can you share that with me aswell mate?
gonna master the terminals in GTFO and then gonna learn Python to use in real life
stonks
true tactics
Carry me
r3a3 is the impossible level
DESIGNED to not be beatable
Fellas, how feasible is it to complete R1 and 2 with mostly bots on your team? Wanna try going solo but not literally(since i just started and i am thrash lmao). any tips on how to use the bots in the best way possible?
feel free to
well i'll put it much more brief then
fortunately i am literate
Give them assault Rifle + veruta machine gun, Bishop is ethernal biotracker carrier.
It's possible, but C and D will be very problematic.
if you adapt to how bots play, you can reasonably clear all of R1 (C1 might be a little difficult with them) and all of R2 except for D2 and E1 (C2 might be stressful)
Bots can't perform a lot of advanced team maneuvers that help a lot.
burst rifle is better, apparently. i've been told they burst cancel it and it does more damage per shot
yeah i usually just say any automatic weapons work great for them
You don't want to see them missing sniper shots or hitting you with them
I've been cursed with an imagine forever burned in my brain of Hackett missing a Choke Mod shot from 5 meters
Absolute ingrade
so rundown 1 is completely possible with bots, r2 is partially possible, but way harder since some levels require some teamwork, but i think that they all can be done
the best ways to use bots is with, with their equipment, long range automatic guns, dont give em sniper cause they can miss some shots, and dont give em short range weapons cause they shoot from afar, so with that yeah things like heavy assault rifle, assault rifle, machineguns, all those type of things. the meele doesnt matter cause they act the same for all of em, just leave em with hammer but dont give em spear since that makes it that they dont run
with tools, cfoam is usable most times but u gotta make sure the bot isnt behind a wall so they shoot it at ur target, with mines they can do lowr and mium height mines but cant do tall mines, and if u r sneakin it can b hard to deal with em, sentries and bio are the best options for em since they do it nicely. i normally have mines or foam
and then with gameplay, they dont kill sleeper at all, but if u wake somethin up they will rush to kill it, so trust em, go for double kills and just the bots will help u.
on combat, dont let enemies get too close, cause bots will melee em and thats a problem, try keepin the wave away and go back if necessary
other nitpicks include them goin to scans automatically, so u dont have to worry about it, them fazin through closed doors, in that case try to stay away from the door, or if a bot gets stuck, just go away and itll go through the wall to get to u
:]
aiiight
hope u enjoy ur time with this funky fellas :]
When r4 ???????
Personally I have found out that the bat works the best for bots due to its stagger and shorter charge time. Once had Dauda manage three consecutive melee hits on a giant without getting hit himself.
All melee are the same
For bots
Yeah
Huh.
yeah
16 dmg
Another reason spear is the worst
Well, that's a bit weird but okay.
Yeah mr black dragon has a vid on it
Is there any difference in reach or stagger?
dont think so
either way stagger in hammer and bat is the same full charge
and they full charge
hammer has more stagger full charge
Bots be strong charging hammer in the same time as a bat :D
ah
Hammer is x5 on charged hits
wickedly BONKers
still
bat supremacy
Bat is x5 on all hits, charged and uncharged.
I used to be a zealous worshipper of the hammer once, but I tried out the bat for fun once and have stuck with it since. Weirdly enough my successful scout bonking ratio is higher with the bat than the hammer.
cause fuck hammer! :D
All the melee weapons have their uses, and personally I do like at least one person in the team bringing a spear or a hammer along.
base dmg of hammer is higher so the multi of x5 on both makes hammer stagger way easier/more
I have been playing the game for a long time, I know. But I'd rather have that less skilled person manage to solo giants and kill scouts 100% of the time than occasionally fail. I convinced him to use the hammer for a while, but despite its benefits he prefers the spear and I am not going to prevent him from being a more efficient member of the team by running it instead of the hammer.
i mean its moreso them using a crutch which due to way less uses holds them back
obviously still a choice and fine
well if its their decision
The peak potential is limited compared to the hammer, but he has played two rundowns through with the spear and has learnt to work around its weak points even on levels that the spear is less than optimal for.
As long as he's not trying to kite w/ spear...
kite with spear gang on top 💪
Personally I think all melee weapons are viable in the right hands. Some just require more skill in certain areas, have weaknesses in some and excel in others.
then theres spear, the wrong choice
spear actually works well in cases
its like hammer but you can keep your distance
you can run with hammer...
past learning it belongs in one place. the trash
if people were then open to learn the new melee yes
but they use it as a crutch. And you wouldnt believe how many beginners dont think to sprint with other melees while charging
running wont save you from a big bear hug by the giant striker
nah Spear is just handicapoing yourself at this point
It is also excellent at scanning for shadows, as the extended reach allows a longer safe scanning radius where you see if the circle goes small or not.
the range only matters vs giant strikers, everything else you rly dont care
and then hammer just insta staggers them
yes it can, go around the corner 
It will and you know it
u have a bio for that which just
works better
and flashlights
incredible that some dare to defend Spear still
bring out ur gun flash it quick
everything else is covered by the knifer
and guns pointing at them from calm position
true
its a good choice for beginners
but once you learn the enemies you realize that knife is just better
yes past that it's useless, like I said above
u realize the BAT IS THE BEST MELEE WEAPO-
Only one person in the team runs bio, and flashlights don't always reveal the shadow to be visible enough in some conditions, risking waking up the room. Thermals are an option yes, but also not suitable for everyone. For example, I just can't land my shots with them, so I don't use them despite the utility.
its pretty simple
Hammer is incredibly strong and viable vs everything. The stagger buff made it a monster
Knife is better vs smalls (and so is bat, but its more middling between knife and hammer)
spears only advantage is the range. Which is already made worse by not being able to run
It legit has like 5+ other points where its just straight up the worst
then like eva said u can use the guns
wait till the gun goes down and then see around the room
if it goes up again
enemy
knife is better against smalls scouts and big shooters and hybrids and mothers and chargers et cetera
knife b doin tanks
wat
compared to what?
I know of that, but it is faster to do with melees because you don't have to wait. Convenience. And it also lets you to judge the range, guns jerk up despite the enemy being outside melee range.
the other 3
to the hackin tool :D
wha no LOL
hammer is best vs all of them (well unless you mean knifing the babies)
they jokin
its ok
it's a terrible choice cause nothing translates to the other weapons
obv
Knife is best at gaints
you open the door
Tbh
blink once and the rooms clear
it just crutches them into bad habits
thank the knife user
drop the scouts and we good
yeah kinda
not in that aspect
DJ he is right tho
its pretty consistent personally
Knife very good against charger scouts
but harder cause back of the head
!!!!!!
ah yes I forgot
if the scouts being a bugger you always have a gun
Against Cscouts they OP
How's the nerfed SR btw? 🤔 I saw it got touched
trash
sericion rifle?
The fabled 4 charge all back hit with 1 yellow syringe knife moment
wahst sr?
on par with shotgun sentry in the never touch cat
sniper... rentry?
Sniper turret
Honestly my favourite melee weapon is the shotgun
Altho Shotgun sentry got buffed. haven't tested yet
The silencer on it is insane
The sniper sentry got so shafted??
they dunno what to do when you shank their ankles
go from usain bolt to ronald mc donald
its ok, but still worse than the other two
burst n sniper are now kinda back to back arent they?
Brother
sentry viability is all on a matter of how much you want to depend on tools versus ammo
Yea I thought Sniper a
rifle
From what I have heard, the shotgun sentry is still pretty bad, but works well enough for solo plays due to excess tool supply and increased firepower output compared to other sentries.
But turret
will keep my misinformation up. cause it's what we do here
It's tired, I'm late
Going off of Mountains stats for sniper sentry
Its definetly heavily nerfed. Still good to help with giants and on reactors if you got bio
depending on level (r7b1 for example lacks tool for number of alarms)
Based
Finally someone else playing gtfo as a macro game about misinformation
Oh well you know. I try my best
Also you can run with the spear guys
Assume you use a macro
So it actually is the best melee
u use a bug known as mod
Idk what to tell you
"run"
more like be part of the triple jump world championship
You can solo the whole game guys. Just need to door cheese. this game is easy AF
Based I am modding !!!
So nice of 10 chambers to add door bug
Else r7e1 is impossible
D4 so gross ikr
D4 is very cool level
"guys we're about to teleport, dont move"
Crouch crouch crouch
I like R6D4 actually
If you don’t crouch I am turning this lobby around
you're sweaty, you don't count
its the level i wanna play the most in all of gtfo, that and r5d1
ITS A CONDITION!
really R5D1???
Dj is a verified elitist 😄
ik it isnt a super level, but the idea of revisitin r1d1 but different
is a super incredible idea
Professional Sweater
And he still doesn’t join my pub duos
Resident Frenchman
Revisiting for 2-3hrs, really ups the immersion.
cant believe that Dj is a elitist
i believed in them
Was there another type of people playing this game?
spear users
thanks my latvian friend
honestly just seems like a super
tense level and
mh
ah well r6c3 too
PE
naturally
to the Woods!
Actually its offensive to people to call spear users people /j
that edit 😂
actually offensive to call people people
just IN CASE
gtfo-chat tries not to shit on spear, bullpup or precision rifle challenge
now u get why i do it :]
hey
high cal is nice
Very difficult harder than r3
wait
(impossible)
that wasnt art of the list
bruh HOW
I use bullpup and PR on R1C1
my precious and beautiful precision rifle, so shit since its nerf 😢
And only R1C1 tbh
Damn Voxy is reaction farming with that message
Always
Everything he types
i hope r6c1 has charger scouts like r5 i dont remember what level
bullpup shines in everything but stats
Good take
'spear is better at anything but bein better than the rest'
R5C1 had no charger scouts? 🤔 or am I losing memory
Haha, laser beam go brrrrrrrr
no r5[level]
i dont recall which one
in the same tile
think R5B1 was the first
Change my mind
yes R5B1 ovl
R3A3 was the level I wiped on most when duoing R3
but that was like two scouts
im talkin of the same room as r6c1 5 scouts, but they were chargers
I'm tempted to agree just on the basis that D1 gives you 2 million ammo uses.
R6D2
actually true
R3a3 duo fucking sucks on 5 and 6
R6D2 Crossways second zone on the right had 5 charger scouts or something like that
r3a3 sucks on bots
mh maybe, i thougt it was r5 but maybe i was wrong
yeah that was R6D2, LATV is right
we were dicking around a bit but in the end we held inside the first western side zone
the room itself appeared in R5B4. but empty
Incidentally shadow scouts first appeared on my favourite level ever, R4C2 IIRC
I've no idea why I liked it so much, it really felt like going in a complex and not through a glorified corridor
maybe it's just because R4 was my first rundown
Lots of options for directions to go in, all the zones had different vibes... it had a lot of variety for one level
All 3 environments used, sprawling map, variable pathing, huge mix of mechanics...
does a3 have ammo struggle 
Naw, but the content more-so threatens to kill you upfront, or if you destabilize too much.
Admittedly, tho, pmom alone probably makes D1 harder.
We held North bride but on 6/6 we put code in and one died and had to quickly kite the giants
And charger zones are pretty gnarly if you can't sneak the scouts.
Just use a silencer
So I could comfily run GTFO at 60Hz on 4K (5600/3060, mix med high). Got a new screen (3440×1440, I liked a little higher Hz) and that means around 25% less pixels so I figured ±25% more fps. Not so much. Then toning down settings got me very little extra frames. I am hovering 86-95. Does anyone have similar gear and what do you get?
hi

try to not use bullets
if u can
theres not a lof of enemies per wave
so u can run with a knife or a bat or whatevs
bonk
Will I need them later
then keep runnin
Right after opening 114 getting the power cell and the fog turbine
Explored a bit
Only found 1 ID
well, u saw the alarm, bullets are for that
but if u r just explorin n stuff
u can try to knife or whatevs em
and if ur in deep fog
...
yeah then u can shoot if u wanna b safe
otherwise, well what tools u usin
are you playing solo, with bots or with a team?
I don't think Mine deployer will be of any use here
Which means I'm off Mine deployer and Cfoam
mine deplyer is rly good on r2c2
Id take mines, skip foam.,
Is it? Sleepers are constantly breaking every door
Save doors when needed, mine em when needed, mine blood doors.
safe doors by opening the ones you actually need (which is like 6 total at absolute worst)
then close the doors before doing the alarm
Huh
also again
you playing solo, with bots or with a team
As always, its recommended to play with at least 1 other actual player. Some missions legit are not doable without cheese (or in some cases ungodly rng)
If you know they take down a certain door that will be handyt for an alarm, open it up and make sure they do not break it down when you are doing your thing, then wehn startign alarm close the door and mine it.
Save the doors.
r2c2 is doable. So as an advice
2 burst sentries, biotracker and mines (take mines yourself)
Will do
Any suggestions for special weapons?
just dont take precision rifle 
Bots are Heavy assault, and 2 Machineguns
Whatever works for you. Id skip sniper rifles personally, no time to line up the shots. Some insist on it though.
I'm a sniper player in every shooter so it's been so fucking hard passing on it despite how good it feels
I'm taking Shelding or the revolver atm
everthing can work for r2c2. Precision rifle being the worst one overall and not helping on that mission much
I am fond of the combat shotgun or the choke mod. Excellent for R2C2
sniper can deal with some stuff later in the mission (but so can other guns)
i think i did combat shotfun or heavy assault rifle
but yeah give bots long range not precision weapons
Good range, limited RoF (relative to the ammo pool), and not too specialized.
Id take a full team though honestly. Just post up in LFG. Much easier.
Bots are so so.
if u do play lfg
ask to not be carried
make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur vc
woops
dont mind that part that got eliminated
didnt exist
carrying?
wdym
The ultimate carry strat is to not die.
never carry anyone
I got kinda carried in R2C2 once. They went hard and fast could barely keep up. All done in 16:02. I ddi it slower a few times before though.
Best before that was 23:08 and I thought that was obscenely fast.
bad carryin people
well true
I can't help it.
I don't understand
Sometimes my teammates die to things that I don't die to.
How do you carry people?
when i play pubs i usually just stay alive and give out advice if missinfo is happening or im specifically asked
Depends. If I finished the level I do not bother. I might suggest things. But if they wanna go another way fine by me. You need a clear not me.\
R2C2 is a mission where the speed of it really hangs on whether you need to go into 116 or not
if not a sub 10 isnt rly "hard". But obviouslly needs you to want to go fast
116 terminal is such a bs spot
i hate that zone
legit its faster to restart than to go there
It's just like the OG.

two or three just, kill everythin
dont say anythin
complete the mission
and the newies stand there like 'what'
or they just explain every single lil thing in the entire code of gtfo
tbf even a single player can do that in a lot of missions
the only thing i rly cant stop myself from (unless asked) is to hug scouts
hog the 4 use kiting med
114 is actually crazy now that I know that tile.
What does this mean 
you will understand soon
The OG legit felt like a huge void with 2-3 disjointed routes and that was all you'd ever see.
Is taking all 3 boosters for main damage worth it, and if so which weapon benefits the most for it? Or are there any specific breakpoints for any of the guns, I know that DMR needs around +9% main damage to be able to one shot headshot strikers and shooters consistently
9% is massively overkill p sure, and shooters it has by default.
dmr already 1 taps shooters and needs the smallest value to 1 tap strikers (so any main dmg booster should do afaik)
Even for damage fall-off, you'd need to shoot across literally a full tile.
not sure about this
because for pistol, hitting the weak spot with +9% will deal 12.489 dmg
without it, it'd be 11.458
no yeah its true
dmr oneshots everythin with any main dmg booster
which still gets you to 3 shot with pistol, doesn't change it to 2 shot
yeah ik about dmr
but is there any other weapon that has any breakpoints for +main dmg?
+5.1%, Carbine body-shot two-burst
Can anyone explain to my why the Hel Rifle is being drooled over by everyone?
I haven't tried it, but my mates say the thing is fucking broken
line up enemies. shoot
since it 1 shots all small enemies anywhere this can be quite strong
but then theres also hel gun
which is actually stupidly good
What's hel gun
theres a "hel rifle" and a "hel gun"
Oh
Is Hel gun the new one
The one that looks like some sort of sniper rifle, but not?
"new" (both got re-released this last patch)
both are "old"
Ah

You'd think I'd know this having bought the game early 2022
I just never got around playing until recently
I did get the tiger year mask though
hel gun is less damage and less penetration but it shoots way faster
performs better in nearly every situation
So Hel gun > Hel rifle?
Can't have more penetration if the penetration is bugged 🤓
yes because the hel gun is still good at the things the hel rifle does
but the hel rifle is doodoo at single target swarm
which do happen quite often in this game
and is usually something that will kill you
The smg arbalist gamer doing virtually nothing but being rewarded with pity killmarkers
Hel revolver needs +13% to 1-shot headshot strikers up to 10m away. Any main damage booster is enough to let it 1-headshot shooters up to 10m away, the more damage boost the further the range.
Rifle needs +10% to 2-shot strikers (one in head, one in body)
Burst rifle needs +24% to 2-burst strikers with bodyshots
not a main weapon but hel gun needs +24% to 1-shot bodyshot strikers (15m range).
Are the guns actually that situational?
I've found myself rotation from Sniper, to the Revolver to the Shelding
why would you call me out like this
But I've cleared every level so far with Van Auken Carbine
sheldin idk what it is but
some guns are more specialized
also thats shelling, and theres two shellings
normal main pistol and high cal
Yeah, I've been rotation from the Revolver to the High cal pistol
smg is supposed to be a jack of all trades for example, but for individuals pistol is better, swarms machineguns or hel shottie is better
and u can go on and on and on
Basically doing Carbine + Revolver, High cal or Sniper depending
Gun specialization is proportional to enemy variety
sniper is very situational, if a level doesnt have enough bigs then its, there and stays with ammo
high cal is ok but if u cant aim at shooters well, its gonna be very awkward
I personally like the high cal pistol with either the carbine or bullpup
cause it doesnt oneshot shooters like other guns
bullpup 💀
High cal doesn't one-shot smalls?
only strikers
yeah bullpup for reactor
not shooters w/o headshot
Bullpup is good if there are other people to compensate for you 💀
HUH?
Thanks a lot
bullpup only have cons
Wait but It has more damage than the revolver
And revolver kills everything with a headshot
Or im using the machine pistol
How does that work?
It's the kiting weapon
bullpup its a "skilled" weapon just like bat
Is the tr22 dmr any good? I currently run it as my primary
no listen, it oneshot shooters with a headshot, not with a bodyshot
the dmr is nice but doesnt work for swarms cause the moment u get overwhelmed its a bit awkward, but its a very nice gun if u aim it well
and keep the distance
highest precision multi on main weapons = highest skill weapon
What's the point of High Cal ( Other than how nice it looks ) when the revolver does the same the High cal does, but it has more ammo?
Oh okay, thank you very much, I'm on the first rundown and it seems to be working really nice
Revolver one-shot giant limbs, one-shot scouts and anything else, aside from the fact it has more ammo
well the revolver doesnt have the same dmg
oneshots scouts from the back of the head
and high cal has more dmg and can oneshot scouts in the head, thats it
Where does this damage difference come into play?
revolver doesnt 1 shot body shot strikers
cant one shot scouts from the front
needs more than 1 mag from the front for a giant
yeah u can try many guns and see whats sticks and what doesnt
mainly big enemies and bodyshots on smols
So high skill ceiling revolver works better?
vs smalls yea
the revolver works if u aim it well
but for bigs high cal has more dmg
vs bigger enemies youd usually get cover by team. Otherwise high cal is better there (both suck vs chargers)
The issue with Revolver is against anything bigger than strikers and shooters
If I want to focus special weapon to scouts and giants, then High cal?
hel gun is a revolver but with pen
oh an it has better base dmg so it wrecks chargers
maybe a shotgun would work better, the pump shottie or the chokemod
theres also choke mod, burst cannon, hel rifle
yeah
Revolver has a very decent rate of fire, but the recoil is through the roof ^^
Any reason for Hel rifle mentioned and Hel gun not?
Oh dear oh no the enemies have low limb health
hel rifle has more dmg
it isnt?
No
I'll send you a diagram 🤓
I'd like to have it too If you can
but well in short terms, hel rifle is super nice with big ones in lines
hel gun for everything in the game
hel guns a bit wonky vs scouts for beginners and worse vs giants
imagine not using machine pistol
hel gun is way better overall tho
yeah u can oneshot scouts but from the back of head
but since you wanted vs giants/scouts hel rifle is better than it
i like hel rifle, it has a super nice feel and im usually the one dealin with giants
but its more situational
defo
hel gun better against giants if they aren't lined up
needs long corridors n stuff to work
cuz u can actually shoot and stagger all of them
instead of standing there waiting for ur hel rifle cooldown
yeah, one of the other weapons could work better for u, u dont have to use hel weapons either
I don't want my boy Dauda getting his life rocked by a stretchy tongue
maybe a bursy cannon
but well if u wanna deal with em theres other weapons
i only really choose hel weaponry if ik theres corridors on the level
but thats just me
ik i should b usin it a bit more often
yeah, i should only use hel precision rifle
That's a good idea
Gave hel shotgun another try, it’s pretty good
Because currently at R2C2, out of all of these
What would be the best special to bring?
Also Knife or Sledge?
well i would say knife cause of stamina but everyone would disagree with me
The sledgehammer
Its what all the Chads use
I agree
maybe a heavy assault rifle if u can control recoil on weapons
i agree
knife based
it should for sure
b but less giants the bullet hits!!!!
One of the bots already brings it
D: /j
so hel rifle only shine for overpenetration
doesnt mean u cant
and the levels you make use of that on
range tbf
have enough ammo that you can just fire twice with hel gun
Wouldn't more diversity be better though?
I'd have 2 heavy and 2 machineguns
mh for that level...
well u could try a combat shotgun too, great for waves
a hel gun cause haha funny red sight goes wow
any other
Diversity doesn't matter on bots
Combat shotgun is hel shotgun but wasting special slot, fight me
fights u
Wrong
its a pretty good special :I
combat is way better at single shots
Penetration does not function properly 🤓
Combat kills very quickly
u can kill one pretty easily and unlike hel shottie u dont need two or three shots
I can show you the diagram
also i just remembered the normal shotgun could b ok too even if less ammo

(but yeah range still stands vs stuff like chargers "technically")
also id actually be interested in the diagram
Another question
question
pretty huge diff between oneshot and slightly below oneshot
How can I install mods in steam? I want the Scout playground to practice scouts
.t modding
GTFO doesn't officially support mods and we don't allow them to be played in public lobbies or voice channels on this server, and lengthy discussions should also be avoided (mentioning them is perfectly fine). However, we do recognize that a GTFO modding community exist and if you are interested in them, you are welcome to join the independent modding community Discord server. https://discord.gg/rRMPtv4FAh (If you have any more questions, please read rule #12 in the rules channel for more information.)
but they add boosters so yeh u could just boost the hel-shotgun
u cant in steam
Two shots at most on hel shotty, and you make up for colateral into horde. If it’s a single sleeper just hammer/special/leave to team
Thanks
need to do certain things
What other launchers are there other than Steam for GTFO?
yes so six with hel shottie, six individuals, and 12 with the combat
ok
only steam has gtfo
:]
Oh
Is it complicated
No
I'm not good with touching files
safe 1 taps are rly rly good (combat shotty is used a lot in solo speeds for that on lower levels)
ah u dont need to, one install and thats about it
and two or three settings
and u can ask there
Alright, I'll look into it
if u need help
Also, I'm getting from 70 to 90 fps with an RTX 2060
LOWER SETTINGS
Is that performance below average or good for the graphics card?
GARDENS ENVIRONMEMT
I think I am on the lowest
idk tech stuff sorry
Know anyone who can help me in that regard?
That’s fine
70 to 90 is okay for RTX2060?
Yes? My perspective might be screwed by 1440 res use though.
Fullsreen is better than fullscreen-windowed
Oh rly? How much of a diff does that make normally?
I get 78-90 5600/3060, I only changed colour depth from 8 bit to 10 bit, and get 90-100. Not sure what the deal is there.
not much tbh, unless you're REALLY grasping at straws lol
ok so whats the problem why it doesnt let u
do u tried it through steam or by the lobby code
when i try with steam it dont show me any friends
when i tried lobby code it says failed to join
that sounds more like a steam or connection issue
maybe try restartin or reinstallin the game
.tfix2
woops
.t fix2
If the steps in ?t fix didn't work, try the following:
- Make sure your computer has the latest Windows Updates.
- Make sure your Video Card drivers are up to date.
- Restart your Modem, Router, and PC.
- Make sure your computer is clear of dust, good airflow, and not overheating.
or maybe one of this options
hahahhahhaha
what o_o|||
Make sure it’s not steam maintenance. Don’t remember when they do maintenance
think its tomorrow
tuesday evenings usually, or was it thursday? i know it started with a T
Tuesdays
anyone ever had a glitch where r2B4 where the extraction scan just doesnt exist
Which fog turbine did you take 
There are two fog turbines in R2B4, and if you bring the wrong one to the Extraction Zone, there is no scan.
(You were supposed to bring the Chosen One)
yah we realized lol
I kept restarting cuz i thought it was broken for R2B4 when I played it
bots being able to friendly fire is actually the worst thing in the fucking world
stay behin em if u can
i was hammering something and bro hel rifled me in the back
ah yeah give em long range not precision weapons if u can too
:]
they better with em
burst rifle and machine gun veruta
dont give any other weapon
HEL shotgun and sniper, they dont need anything else
menace
burst rifle, machineguns, heavy and normal assault riflr
they work well with em
if they have precision weapons they might miss
HEL shotgun will never miss
and short range powerful weapons can loose a lot of dmg shootin from afar
the pellets fly everywhere on the screen
so thats why
i know but most meta ish its br and veruta
they all work
most meta-ish is no bots at all
its not like it matter since they gonna suicide into a surge wave 
conscript everyone you can until you eventually get a full consistent team
it will only take you like 38 copies of the game
is burst cannon actually viable for them or is that just a meme cuz burst cancel
meme
i dunno it's definitely viable for fastest way to die from friendly fire
i mean you could place a mine and shoot that but that's not the same as a bot shooting you
hi anyone wants to play one or two missions now?
.t lfg
Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.
If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.
put in a lfg entry in one of these channels and you'll have a team in minutes to seconds
Bro every time i cfoam a door, the cfoam just goes through the door, and then the door loses collision
and enemies can just walk right through it
it's a bug.... it happens sometimes, but idk how you're getting it every time
i've seen it consistently on one door in R1B2
uhh ya those guns still have bullets, they should be pretty good for that level with enemies on it
Guys is it true that R7B1 and D1 are notorious for crashing the game when loading?
yes, the environment they are in is super unoptimized. if you can, turn your settings all the way down when playing them
if you're skilled enough any weapon works
the guns are actually rather "balanced"
burst cannon go brrr
it does damage but you lose all your ammunition
if it had burst cancel, sure, but it's kinda balanced due to eating all the ammo
I spent almost 2 hours soloing a stage, getting to the exit elevator, but deciding to place one more mine to be sure, blew myself up with the team, wasted 2 hours, fuckin love this game
you play solo in a team?
yeah what?
can you teach me this tech please
I really struggle with solo but if I had a team maybe I'd be able to solo a level
yeah see guys you can solo R7E1 

'bots still counts as solo' - 🤓
One week in, how are we feeling about ALTR3?
It was alright. A little bit on shorter side. Basically beaten the whole thing in 2 sessions.
Og r3 wasnt much different
Dauda still doesnt say thank you 0/10
The 3 memorable moments was the react shenanigans, and both mommy encounters. As well as D1 finale. Brutal.
Maybe its due to player growth but it feels quite easy. Probably mainly due to stronger weapons and tools, R3D1 was fun before and its fun again. R3A3 was considerably harder due to back waves
Real talk tho its alright dont have much to complain about
ILL HAVE YOU KNOW
i don't think discord would allow me to type that many characters to list everything 
nice changes to A3, but having difficulty of R3 with guns and tools from R6+ means there is not too much challenge being left. Double burst sentry makes every alarm a breeze, the chargers room (supposed to be stealthed?) from R3D1 is just easily being shot on sight with the amount of power that has been given to players.
why fix burst cannon 😠
Can't burst cancel in real life
At least I think so...
You could try but I doubt it'll be healthy for neither you or the gun
overall good update 
^^^

