gtfo-chat

[wraith marsh]

giant meatball and the one schaeffer tile

I have no fucking clue which level that tile is even on out of the x's

[storm quartz]

C

[shut vapor]

Was that not DX after the genome uplink or whatever

[wraith marsh]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

ztriw says C, I have no idea

[shut vapor]

I just about remember that cx was about restoring power in the garden sewers tile

[storm quartz]

if he's talking about the locked terminal in the hidden room

[shut vapor]

Oh shit ye it had the ratman room in that tile

[storm quartz]

The unique tiles are cool

[wraith marsh]

the singular memorable thing

because giant meatball is nothing but a meme

[shut vapor]

Unique tile pros:
They are cool
They add a lot of storytelling potential
They add a lot of potential to a level scenario

Cons:
You can only realistically use them once

Except the huge tile in dx use that more please

[storm quartz]

I fine with them using them once

[shut vapor]

Oh and the tile with the huge ass hole in it

[storm quartz]

Modded has a bad habit of spamming them

[shut vapor]

Making your own tiles sucks from what I've seen

[unreal crystal]

some of the modded tiles ive seen have destroyed my fps lol

[shut vapor]

Real

[wraith marsh]

where is gardens 2

the fps fuckening

[storm quartz]

Guys look a this giant digsite tile that eats 30 fps

It's great

[shut vapor]

People who like digsite

🤡

Too many rocks

[unreal crystal]

love it when im playing samdown and my frames drop to 20 in the really cool looking tile

slideshow gaming

[sharp owl]

love to see it

[storm quartz]

When I'm stealthing on Extirpate: 50 fps
When I'm Fighting on Extirpate: 15 fps

[unreal crystal]

TRUE

[sharp owl]

is it rly that bad

[unreal crystal]

it can be yea

[sharp owl]

pain

[unreal crystal]

i like the level a lot but

floodways moment

[sharp owl]

[storm quartz]

When I think I can use the stairs to get to hub in shadow zone

Then I die

[raw shard]

How can you not like digsite bruh

[sharp owl]

R3 tomorrow guys frfr

[inland plinth]

Funny joke: gtfo optimization

[wispy bluff]

Real shit

[visual lily]

Amongus

Sus

I want an among us gamemode where i can play amongus in the complex

@ suggestion among us gamemode

[regal mauve]

and I wanna sleep through this chemistry lesson

we don't always get what we want

[last parrot]

@ suggestion ban this guy

[regal mauve]

which guy

[last parrot]

mongus guy

[regal mauve]

mongoose guy?

[visual lily]

Yes pls ban mongoose guy

[regal mauve]

mongooses are cool

[normal lake]

I mean just sleep through it, for me highschool fucking was nap time and college is the exact same

[regal mauve]

guess what, I'm in the front and I can't sleep during the day

[viscid trellis]

i slept when i was the front desk

you just have to believed

[normal lake]

I always did anyways

If they woke me up id just go back to sleep

What are they gonna do discipline me for being quiet not interipting class

[regal mauve]

but walter will catch me

[regal mauve]

I snore

and loud

[normal lake]

Oh yeah yoir fucked then

[regal mauve]

and if walter catches me, I'm double fucked

[rose nova]

walter white?

[regal mauve]

no

[rose nova]

u sure?

[regal mauve]

but he is best a chemistry

[normal lake]

Walter white on his way to ensure kids get a good education

So they can pay for his meth

[regal mauve]

He's african

cannot be walter white

[normal lake]

Walter black

[regal mauve]

don't man

you're gonna make me laugh

I'll get caught

[stuck tapir]

anybody know how the ammo pack refill mechanic works? it feels like ill sometimes get 40 percent for 1 gun but only 20 for another, why is this?

[regal mauve]

each gun has a refill count relative to its ammo and not percentage

[normal lake]

Yeah pretty much and it def does make it a pain in the ass to not over ise ammo

[stuck tapir]

thx

[regal mauve]

wrong form

[normal lake]

No problem booba

[regal mauve]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Br_2A3n3YDO1v0Kld27KCLvwRYKJqjliyhntoT2NTp4/edit#gid=1874401893 this should have all the info you need @stuck tapir

[modern coral]

Rounding is handled by an exact counter back-end afaik.

Ammo packs refill a specific amount of this value, and the cost of each bullet determines how many bullets you actually have.

Probably worth testing, but that should mean it's not RNG.

[modern coral]

Guys, R3 March 2nd, I'm really feeling it.

[brittle wolf]

alt R3 announced 🤯

[modern coral]

Huge predictions coming through rn.

Doubters BTFO'd

[hollow quarry]

Next time we'll start a betting service

[junior latch]

Im not sure

seems sus

[soft owl]

God I'm excited to see what's been done to r3c1. That expedition holds a special place in my heart.

[junior latch]

Calle didnt text me for weeks and now suddenly drops r3? Seems like calle got beardnapped and exchanged for a bear

[soft owl]

Mainly cause back then it made me shit my soul out my ass cause me and my buddy were only a duo who were meh at the game lol.

[junior latch]

also, fuck chemistry labwork

[visual lily]

are daudas voice lines fixed tho

in r3

[hollow quarry]

Would hate a bear instead of a beard in my face

[junior latch]

and why did r3 have to drop inbetween my 2 chemistry lab weeks

[visual lily]

bro i am on vacation ez

[junior latch]

i bet it would look beautiful

[soft owl]

Thematic, R3 is labs. They knew

[junior latch]

ill have to be very inactive until i can play here

[visual lily]

calle what about daudas voice lines

[junior latch]

cuz im actually not spoilered for r3 (only rundown i never played)

[soft owl]

This, is my boy Abeo "the best prisoner" Dauda fixed

[visual lily]

if they aint fixed before r3 i will legit not eat and drink till dauda has the ability to say thank you

[hollow quarry]

I did them instead

[visual lily]

brooo lets go

the rare thank you finally

[wispy bluff]

Here comes the new grind

[burnt garnet]

You were right…. This time around

March 16 2024 is r5 ALT release

[hollow quarry]

Slightly before that

[burnt garnet]

Something has to slot into March 16th 2024 for next year

R8 👀

So I can come back a year from now to mrmtnman

[hollow quarry]

Worth

[quartz cape]

always am

[vagrant veldt]

IT was confirmed for march 3rd what are you talking about?

[modern coral]

ALT://Rundown 3.0 The Vessel releases on Thursday the 2nd of March, 12:00 UTC.

[gilded sail]

Is gatebug getting fixed with rd3

[bronze cloud]

Shhh

We need it

[wispy bluff]

Bullpup buff please

[rose nova]

no?

[pale zephyr]

👉🏻👈🏻 one little leak? 🥺

[rose nova]

they announced it 5 days

[hot lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-goku-dbz-dragon-ball-super-saiyan-gif-8246706

Bruh

[rose nova]

gtfo gif attempt

[hot lynx]

What i was gonna say before seeing gifs are illegal was "me seeing alt rundown 3 is coming out march 2"

[rose nova]

well now we will never know

[hot lynx]

Its also a day right after i moved to Australia

Great fun

[rose nova]

ah nice

thats not gtfo media btw

so

might get warned

ah there better

[pale zephyr]

I just remembered we are getting to see the rifle again

After all these years, he’s finally back

[stark imp]

Played R2D2. Everything was going well, but when we got to the first scout zone, the blue security door closed behind us and we couldn't get out but enemies still poured in. Run ending bug. Fix please.

[lone kestrel]

guys I think r3 might be coming out on March 2nd, here is why. The 2nd is one day before the 3rd, so it would be fun to release on the 2nd, as 2 is before 3, so it's a surprise and makes it feel like an early release. Also note that GTFO is widely hailed as a "Destiny killer", and Destiny gets an expansion 2 days before. 2 + 2 = 4 - 4 = 0 + 3 = 3. R3 confirmed March 2nd. My logic is sound

[distant rover]

I need more information on the said “sex 2”

[lone kestrel]

it is the sequel to sex 1

[distant rover]

(overload objective activated)

[distant rover]

that is extremely helpful

[lone kestrel]

you're welcome

[thick temple]

so team, is anyone going to talk about the fact that alt r2's release and alt r3's release were both announced <= 7 days after scaler's guides for the previous alt rundown was finished uploading?

[grizzled bison]

No

[distant rover]

no

[lone kestrel]

no

[distant rover]

so what you are saying is

[lone kestrel]

clearly Scaler and Calle are the same person

[junior latch]

early R4?

[distant rover]

peer pressuring scaler’s guides

[lone kestrel]

Have you seen them in the same room at the same time?

[grizzled bison]

You're literally continuing to talk about it after you just said no

[distant rover]

will speed up updates exponentially?

*R3 guide when

[thick temple]

that certainly seems to be the case if this trend keeps up

[distant rover]

#friendlypeerpressureforR4

[molten bane]

Can this game be played on steam deck

[rose nova]

uh kinda, there is some problems and mechanics that are a bit harder or unusable
but if u got a good team to help with em, its defo posible

the game has partial support for controllers

[molten bane]

I got steam deck I am thinking download it

[rose nova]

u can if u play in a team, or, even if u play with one other person

[junior widget]

R3R3R3R3R3R3R3R3R3R3R3R3R3R3R3R3R3R3R3R3R3R3R3R3R3R3R3R3R3R3R3R3R3R3R3R3R3R3R3R3R3R3R3R3

[rose nova]

yes

[mint light]

I wouldn't you kinda need a keyboard to type out stuff

[molten bane]

Ok I download it later

[rose nova]

ok hope u enjoy the game

[eternal maple]

+1

[thick hornet]

+R3

[slim rose]

Someone knows too much @hollow quarry. I think 'we' may need to dispose of a few people.

[thick temple]

the truth is out there, scaler, you will be exposed!

[slim rose]

Silly silly Jarhead... You mess with beings that are far beyond your comprehension.

Don't make me turn up the enemy spawn rate dial next time you drop into the Complex.

[last parrot]

its too late

[thick temple]

do it, will force me to improve my aim

[rose nova]

or decrease ur artifact heat a lot

[thick temple]

D: oh no, anything but my artifact heat!

[rose nova]

:] now every aggresive boost u pick is gonna be useless!

[serene berry]

"May all your boosters be damage resistance."
- Ancient Welsh curse

[hollow quarry]

Scouts on the way

[thick temple]

hey what's that roaring sound in the distance?

[icy shuttle]

wait so why are they remaking the rundowns did something happen

[thick temple]

phase 2

[serene berry]

just a change in philosophy before they do Rundown 8

[rose nova]

yeah, when rundown 7 came out they decided to bring back old rundowns changin little details about em

the ALTs

and so we have altr1, altr2 and in five days altr3

[thick temple]

https://discordapp.com/channels/408196129470152705/408584474767523860/1013791291437502484

[rose nova]

cool

[icy shuttle]

oh

i mean at least they’re bringing them back i didnt like that whole seasonal thing esp bc the later rundowns would be harder and rely on experience from the first rundowns

[rose nova]

yeah that, went back on how it was with r6 but true r7 was a bit hard
so now we got r1 for the newies and then they gona have all the ramp up to r5

[serene berry]

yup, and R1 is a lot of practice of core mechanics, something lacking when it was just r7 when i was starting

[rose nova]

yeah the last level is just a test on how well u can sneak

[mint light]

True sadly R6 and R7 went back to easy 😔

[rose nova]

sadly
hah lmao lol even

anyways

every alt rundown released is one closer to r6

qwq

one day...

[mint light]

I honestly have not really an interest in R6. R4 and R5 is it and then R8 but I also kinda fear that R8 will be a huge let down

[rose nova]

r6 god :]

[mint light]

No

[icy shuttle]

i remember the end of r2 introduced those friggin giant invisible enemies

[crude kite]

Lets hope it won't be

[junior latch]

cmon it has some good levels
and hopefully performance will be fixed LOL

[crude kite]

How many levels do we have in R3?

And how hard compared to R2?

[rose nova]

R3 has 7 if im not wrong

and they r mostly easier except for some last ones, i think d1 was harder than the d1 of r2

[crude kite]

Seems like this rundown will be a very quick one

[mint light]

3 A, 2 B 1 C and 1D

short and easy

[mint light]

Ofc every rundown has "some good levels"

[crude kite]

We've been waiting for this 3 months...

[junior latch]

r1

[crisp terrace]

Anyone feel like joining us in channel 8? R2A1.. we are still learning the game so everyone is welcome 🙂

[mint light]

R1B1 and R1C2

[rose nova]

u can use the lfg to search for players

[junior latch]

more like mid

[rose nova]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[rose nova]

devs where in vacation if im not wrong

[mint light]

You really want me to do R1 dirty like that ?

[mint light]

yep ...

[crude kite]

Sad

[rose nova]

meanwhile me in the corner thinkin every rundown has somethin special

and every one is nice

[junior latch]

r1 is nice

[mint light]

well I mean R3 introduces something fun at least

[crude kite]

I thought maybe they will release r3 and r4 at the same time

But hell no

Go suffer 3 months more

[rose nova]

thats so much hopin

[crude kite]

🤧

[mint light]

Nah it's boring af I was trying really hard to find kinda good levels

[rose nova]

ive always said it i prefer waitin so many months over knowin theres crunch on 10c

[crude kite]

Every rundown is good I think

[rose nova]

heyy high five

nice

[mint light]

I don't think crunch cereals have something to do with 10c

[rose nova]

ah lemme get u a mic so u can do stand up :] /lh

[junior latch]

tbf the coolest thing about r1 is its og factor and that r1b1 is cool to speedrun

[mint light]

been there, done that. not my thing

[junior latch]

._. everything is just very very basic

[unreal crystal]

r1a1 is actually a cute level

[junior latch]

r1a1 is totally fine (tho i prefered the og)

[unreal crystal]

outside of that I don’t care for r1

Actually no r1c2 isn’t bad either

[mint light]

True which I guess is normal and is not really something I hold against it

[rose nova]

i can hear is basic all the time but, well yeah the og factor just makes me think 'well its better that its like this', i wouldve not preferred that they changed it

[mint light]

But it will still be boring to play

[wraith marsh]

shooter only level is funny

[crude kite]

It was the 1st ever rundown

What did u expect?

[mint light]

I hate that level in particular

[rose nova]

i just think its not
made for pro players, cause it was when it all started so
if u dont like it well sure but it was just not made for em

[mint light]

well after playing OG R1 I vowed to never touch it again . Then the devs announced Alts .....

[rose nova]

i said the same thing, but its not about expectations, its just how it plays

i too said 'what did u think?'

but its

not really an argument cause, expect it or not, its like that for pro players

but again, its just not made for pro players, is the beginning rundown

[crude kite]

I know, I understand

It was too easy

But its best for newcomers

[rose nova]

yeah i prefer it being this way than newies havin to begin in fire and flames

[crude kite]

Yep

[rose nova]

also its a nice
challenge to solo, like w/o bots

so if a peasant like me havent tried solo before, its a place to start

[crude kite]

I still can't solo😂

[rose nova]

i think i would be able but my aim is so atrocious i just cant lmao
i just depend on the bots and if i cant take em i die

[crude kite]

I think bots are getting more stupid every update... I noticed they are trying to melee swarm of enemies even if they have a lot of ammo

[rose nova]

ah i think they arent so bad, they have their quirks, but if know how to handle em, they carry u through a class V alarm

on r2b1 i just went for scans

[crude kite]

Besides telling them what and where to put, u can't really do anything with them

During alarms I mean

[rose nova]

eh u can kinda guide em to scans, u can backtrack and make em eliminate enemies

[junior latch]

they can basically solo most alarms if you setup tools

[rose nova]

id say not better than a human naturally

but serviceable

[junior latch]

them doing the scans is the bigger issue

[rose nova]

on 4 clusters yeah but on others they are pretty good

[crude kite]

Okay but some times they are being very stupid

[rose nova]

its just a bit rng dependant

[wraith marsh]

extraction scans:

[crude kite]

Why to melee during alarm if u have ammo

[rose nova]

ah well yeah, every ai has its moments, it gets stuck or doesnt go into a scan or whatevs

but even so

also the melee they do it when u got an enemy inside u

mostly to not fill up teammates with bullets

[wraith marsh]

you can melee during alarms, just not anywhere near as much as the bots try to

[rose nova]

i prefer it over gettin 50% health gone

[crude kite]

Ik

[wraith marsh]

they definitely shouldnt default to it if you arent moving

[rose nova]

yeah u can press c kill then back to gun but they take their time

i agree it can be a bit eh but well
its still manageable

u just kinda learn to keep the distance

on r1c2 its death tho yeah

[crude kite]

Sure, I did the entire R1 and almost R2 till D2 duo with bots

[rose nova]

i did r1 and almost r2 with three bots yeah

[wraith marsh]

the bots did surprisingly well on surge alarms ngl

[noble abyss]

did r1 and r2 duo with bots as well, it's a special experience

[rose nova]

and i have traumas with r1c2 cause i had to beat it under an hour three bots and quick
so i failed so many times i just know the level by heart

[noble abyss]

i swear that hackett dumps more ammo into players than enemies

[rose nova]

d1 for me was easier than c2 by a long shot

[crude kite]

Ahahah

[noble abyss]

no because their AI puts them behind you

and they fucking strafe to aim

[crude kite]

Yeeah

[noble abyss]

so they just strafe behind you while spraying an MG

[rose nova]

ive never had problems with friendly fire, i guess i just play in the back
is me usually the one shootin the bots lmao

[crude kite]

C2 was a run n gun as I remember

[winged narwhal]

they shouldnt have bots be able to FF just because there's not much you can do to prevent it

[wraith marsh]

^

[noble abyss]

i play with the hel revolver and sometimes i shoot through the bots to kill enemies

[rose nova]

not at all, it has some alarms but mostly its just sneaking

r1c1 is the bring out guns level

[noble abyss]

n r2c2

they mean

[rose nova]

yeah but we talkin r1 sooo /j

[noble abyss]

lmaoo

[rose nova]

SAME that has happened to me

[noble abyss]

i don't remember r1c1

[crude kite]

Uh yeah, confused a bit

[rose nova]

its so funny KMSDK

[rose nova]

uh reactor level

[crude kite]

First reactor yeah

[noble abyss]

it's so annoying when they try to melee and step in front of you

so i just shoot through them

[rose nova]

also r2c2 i will say its one of the easiest c tier and even b tier level with bots

[noble abyss]

tungsten rounds go brrrrrrr

[rose nova]

no thats auto pistol :]

[noble abyss]

oh that was the easy one

[rose nova]

not machinepistol

[noble abyss]

hel revolver has tungsten rounds no?

or just crazy penetrators

[noble abyss]

i beat r2d2 last night, 2 bots, it was a special experience

[rose nova]

i dont think it has tungsten bullets, but it does stagger

[crude kite]

Which weapons we'll be getting in R3?

[rose nova]

hel gun, hel rifle, rifle

and uh burst cannon

[noble abyss]

i thought it did, most hel weapons do
why the hel shotgun, hel gun, etc pierce

[rose nova]

and maybe, other one i forgot

[crude kite]

Rifle is with a green scope yes?

[noble abyss]

yes

[crude kite]

Ooh my favorite

[noble abyss]

i think it's like a better dmr?

[rose nova]

the square one yeah

[noble abyss]

only complaint with the DMR, ammo and the weirdass scope

[rose nova]

no that was uh gas weapons

tungsten bullets stagger

[sharp siren]

no

rifle its essentially long range pistol

[noble abyss]

thought that was just the disruptors

[noble abyss]

ooo

[noble abyss]

i am confused i'll go look at the wiki lmao

[rose nova]

if i recall only the autopistol and auto sentry had tungsten rounds but i could be wrong

[noble abyss]

i was shit with the pistol until i started using it as intended

lmao

[rose nova]

i am still shit with the pistol cause i cant aim :]

but i love it

my beloved

[crude kite]

How about the auto sentry? Was it in R3?

[noble abyss]

might be??

[sharp siren]

auto sentry its r4

[rose nova]

yeah think it was r4

[noble abyss]

same but i use the high-cal as a shotgun so

[crude kite]

Additional sectors? R4 too?

Secondary/Overload

[rose nova]

i mean its kinda meant for that

[rose nova]

yeah r4

defo

[sharp siren]

@hollow quarry hopefully you guys will release those old weapons rebalance to not be supepr broken right! haha!

[rose nova]

me with a burst cannon on my backpack

[noble abyss]

i just mag-dump big bois at close range or stagger hybrids with it

[thick temple]

when r4 drops we get 5 pen hel revo

[noble abyss]

[rose nova]

i dont really use that weapon anymore, if i need somethin big i pick a shotgun cause it has a bit more dmg

[noble abyss]

so you're telling me i can shoot through my whole team and hit an enemy on the other side

[rose nova]

it was pretty
stronk

[noble abyss]

[noble abyss]

choke mod ain't got enough ammo for me tbh

combat doesn't do enough damage

normal i just kinda hate

[sharp siren]

get closer

[rose nova]

i mean normal the only issue i got is range

on close quarter levels like r7b2 i go for it

[noble abyss]

i don't want to be kissing them

it's useful holding chokes

but that's about it

[rose nova]

u sure u dont want a lil slap :]

[thick temple]

why not?

[rose nova]

just a smol touch with their hand
...
for 40 health

[noble abyss]

fair point

[hollow quarry]

They will get a balance pass, yes. As always, some will agree, others not 🙂

[rose nova]

oHhHhHh

balance~

[noble abyss]

yesterday i got double bitch-slapped into a hybrid

80% to 0

[rose nova]

i wonder if now burst cannon has 10 bullets :]

[rose nova]

well thats just kinda skill issue cause they slap pretty slowly

[sharp siren]

as long as its less and not more im good

[noble abyss]

yeah i was trying to run to punch in a code for r2d2

[rose nova]

ah fair

u just tried typin with that thing like 'HEY ITS MY TURN FOR THE PC'

'GO AWAAY'

[thick temple]

@sharp siren random question do you know if any of the devs have watched your rundown reviews

[sharp siren]

i think docred watch some of them he said he liked it

not like it will affect anything really

[storm quartz]

Tool Part 5 when auto is added back 👀

[mint light]

when can we expect Alt R3 review?

[sharp siren]

2 hours after release

kappaa

[mint light]

Thank you I did not expect anything less from you

[regal stream]

GTFO Alt://R3 Patch notes are going to be
added back all r3 levels
added hel gun
nerfed helgun (the nerf is it has less damage)

[sharp siren]

been honest if the patchnotes are good ill make sure to do a good video giving them props

if they do bad its gonna be like the previous two saying they should really do more

because they should

[mint light]

Hey I like your unsalted opinion. Don't hold back. give it how it is

[pulsar current]

R3 comes out today

[rose nova]

how do we explain this to u

[grizzled bison]

Can you do a tool part 6 when they fix cfoam

[sharp siren]

can i just get a new tool so i can continue with this inside joke

[grizzled bison]

Tool part 7 is for the shotgun sentry fix

[sharp siren]

no cap for sure

shit they fix shotgun sentry now ill skip the stealth guide and fucking go to tools

[storm quartz]

could they fix charger targeting on sentries too

[sharp siren]

just bring sniper sentry dumbo

[storm quartz]

[grizzled bison]

Sniper sentry nerf 😢

[serene berry]

make sniper target center of mass, and leave shotgun sentry on head

[grizzled bison]

Give shotgun sentry a precision multiplier

Actually make it do more back damage

Bring that back

But don't take away its no noise feature

It needs to be able to stealth the bigs

[unreal crystal]

its important

[boreal bramble]

does sentries still deal back damage?

[edgy plover]

Inb4 no new apparel and the pool runs out for those who finished everything in R6

[rose nova]

nope

[boreal bramble]

when did they change that

[rose nova]

uh not sure tbh

[ivory pier]

for R6

[storm quartz]

Bug hunter played a level with giants and the sniper sentry one shot a giant

[sharp owl]

how is r3 compared to r1/r2 ?

[modern coral]

EZ

[rose nova]

its uh a bit shorter than r2, a bit easier in some levels

but harder n longer than r1

[edgy matrix]

The meme is over, r3 has a date

[rose nova]

finally

[edgy matrix]

I still wish they gave us the old rundowns as they were with the weapons that were around at the time

[shut vapor]

Only the weapons found in that substitute

Rundown*

[rose nova]

play the mods for em

if u want the true old experience

[quartz cape]

or just download r3

not that i recommend it, cause og r3 sucks, but you could

[shut vapor]

People be like "I really liked original rundown 2" no you didnt, early rundowns sucked balls

[quartz cape]

now hold on a minute, og r2 slapped

[modern coral]

Naw, I still prefer the OGs.

[rose nova]

average r6 user

[quartz cape]

mostly cause of fun bugs

but still

[rose nova]

i say this as a r7 user

[lone kestrel]

I'm a huge r2a1 og enjoyer

Can't speak about other parts as I never made it past that level

[modern coral]

AltR2 has too many random ass nerfs.

[lone kestrel]

But original r2a1 was certified goated with the sauce]

[quartz cape]

battle revive was so goofy

[modern coral]

And also post-nerf blows.

[shut vapor]

I will say no original sacrifice kinda sad

[modern coral]

AltR3 I just like the original HEL Gun.

[shut vapor]

When are we getting difficulty buffs to r3d1

[quartz cape]

bring back the 6 birther bug

[modern coral]

R3E1 secret level!?

[unreal crystal]

its not a bug its a feature

[shut vapor]

Wait that's just that one mod that triples the enemy count per zone

[quartz cape]

all of gtfo will become trivial once i get my hands on rifle

[rose nova]

[dies on r7a1]

[unreal crystal]

long gun better tbh 💤

[shut vapor]

R7A1 is too hard for me

[sharp owl]

When R4?

[rose nova]

AAAAAAAAAAA

[sharp owl]

I got to use long gun

No double drop this is the end of gtfo

[quartz cape]

they still have a few days to announce the double

[sharp owl]

🥹

[sharp siren]

Just play evil twin lmao

[elfin osprey]

Yayyyyyy

R3 release

When im back in vietnam

[rose nova]

:D

[elfin osprey]

*alt

[distant rover]

😨

*why do I hear fortunate sons

[sharp owl]

@hollow quarry is R3 release 12 am or pm utc

[shut vapor]

Pm sadly

[sharp owl]

thank fuck

thats 10 pm my time

prime gaming hours

[distant rover]

F

8 in the morning

*proceeds to die

[sharp owl]

rip

[analog flicker]

r i p

4AM for me iirc

[shut vapor]

+10 hours moment

[vagrant veldt]

A double drop remember?

[sharp owl]

No double drop

[distant rover]

its ok

I’ve gotten too used to waiting for games at this point (

silksong oof

[sharp owl]

Now we wait 6 months for r4

[shut vapor]

Can you believe it guys? R4, just a year away!

[distant rover]

niceeeee

at least it will come out before silksong

[serene jewel]

does anyone know if i have to beat r2 to play r3

[shut vapor]

You do not

[serene jewel]

nice

I do not wanna continue doing R2D2 🙏

[shut vapor]

Truer words have never been spoken

Powerless moment

[celest egret]

My team has been stuck on R2D2 But honestly I actually have a blast replaying it so I don't mind redoing it repeatedly. They do though.

[serene jewel]

oh i have fun with gtfo but it does suck to restart a lot lol

[distant rover]

r2d2?

[serene jewel]

• half my team is bots lol

r2d2 powerless yes

i also havent done r2c2 cause i dont really see a point to do it as it doesnt unlock a level

[distant rover]

oh!

its the fun reactors

funactor

[last parrot]

i 2bot'd r2d2

[serene jewel]

I like reactor levels

the noise is cool

[last parrot]

it took 30 or so attempts i wanna say

[serene jewel]

im just not very good at the game

[last parrot]

clearly seeing as you skipped c2

[distant rover]

I hate the blaring

[serene jewel]

• i havent played since jan but r3 announcement got me hyped

[serene jewel]

🤫

[distant rover]

I have to turn the sound up for listening to the clicking

[shut vapor]

Ok but r5 best rundown when

[distant rover]

but the blaring is just destroying my ears

[last parrot]

personally

[shut vapor]

R5b2 will never be quite the same again

[last parrot]

i dont know why

but the most fun i have in this game is in the brutally difficult levels

[celest egret]

Personal take but getting stuck on a level and redoing it a bunch is probably the best place to learn what you're weak at and improve it IMHO.

But that's me.

[serene jewel]

oh i agree

[distant rover]

yeah

[serene jewel]

im usually fine by myself, ive only had to call for my friends for help on levels cause bots just dont like to do scans sometimes

[distant rover]

I remember the first run of r2d2 was hectic

[celest egret]

Bots do be like that.

[serene jewel]

trial and error

[last parrot]

i remember the first time we saw them running from behind us

[serene jewel]

learn the level, its nice getting past a part you were stuck on with ease after multiple attempts

[distant rover]

but like after 3 times it was really easy

[serene jewel]

a full team on r2d2 sounds like it would be good

[distant rover]

only fear is the last verification key

[celest egret]

The funny thing is it's the exact opposite reason as to why my team has been stuck on it.

[distant rover]

yeah its really easy

[serene jewel]

but i usually play by myself and rarely with 2 other people i know

[distant rover]

with a full team

[serene jewel]

understandable, it can suck to realize that if you fail youll have to do this scan, or room, or whatever all over again

[shut vapor]

When are we getting r2d2 extended

Longer reactor

[last parrot]

r2e1 is the only expedition besides r1a1 that ive played with a full team

[serene jewel]

r2d2 endless

[celest egret]

We made it to the last code on our first attempt but didn't know where terminal was, and then most other failed runs was fucking up on the easier codes (mostly the scout rooms). We did finally make it to final code again but my game had started to die after entering Code 8 (or 7?) and that cost us the run because I couldn't control my mates anymore and they rushed things so we didn't get enough ammo.

[last parrot]

because bots really suck at those surges

and it hinders my skill

but i cant do anything about it

[serene jewel]

my first issue with bots was the first level with the rammers

[last parrot]

rammers

[celest egret]

Chargers?

[serene jewel]

whatever theyre called

[shut vapor]

Surge alarms hard :(

[celest egret]

The black spiky guys I'm guessing.

[serene jewel]

i didnt know what they were at first so i used the sniper on them lmao

yes

[last parrot]

r1c2 is such an experience

seeing chargers for the first time

[serene jewel]

thats what the people i played with called them

[shut vapor]

Rammers ey? 👀

[serene jewel]

what does r3 add?

wasnt there a thing with enemy respawn before i think?

[last parrot]

shouldn't you see for yourself

[shut vapor]

||the mother||

[serene jewel]

time travel to Thursday

[shut vapor]

That's what it adds

[serene jewel]

neat

I 100% know exactly what that is

[shut vapor]

I wonder if i can spoon the Mother

[serene jewel]

spoon every gtfo enemy speedrun

[shut vapor]

Very fast

[sharp owl]

THE R3 IS REAL

[distant rover]

clear every rundown using only spoon any%

[mint light]

You need all previous mains to unlock R2E1.

so technically it does unlock a level

[grave junco]

random thought, but what if instead of being "alt rundowns" they were called "re-runs"?

[gray pilot]

[sharp owl]

[hollow quarry]

That name was one of the suggestions 🙂

[hazy coyote]

Give me the Runup

[mint light]

So real question here: How far is R8 in development?

[covert gale]

calle when's rundown 8. its been over 7 months

[wispy bluff]

With this speed? 2024

[covert gale]

will there be something after rundown 8? or is that it for the games lifespan?

[wispy bluff]

December if we're lucky, but I highly doubt it

R3 took way too long and as rundowns get more complex - so do their face-lifts.

We'll slow down to a crawl by R5

[hazy coyote]

Hard hitter.
At this point Im fairly certain alts are being spaced out for something, hopefully R8 development.
An interesting question is will R6-R8 take longer than the current time spaces?

[covert gale]

"complex" yeah i love reskins

[mint light]

That's why I asked

[covert gale]

i love control c + control v

[hazy coyote]

Second game I assume. They teased a coop heist game.

[covert gale]

yeah pay day like but then there is payday 3 now

[hazy coyote]

I'd be very careful around Payday 3 given starbreeze/over kills recent track record. I hope it's good but I will wait for opinions after release

[covert gale]

either way ten chambers slacking on their work

[hollow quarry]

We've been clear about that R8 will come after the alt releases

[covert gale]

can we copy n paste with haste then? kinda getting stale on the old content ya know

[hollow quarry]

We have not announced our plans post R8. And if it would be the last, a game with no DLC, microtransactions or other would have a good run with two years of support post 1.0. Pretty good in my (slightly biased book). At that point there will be 80+ expeditions available.

[hollow quarry]

Not that much copy and pasting going on, as the expeditions are recreated in the newer code base.

[covert gale]

what if as an idea, take some time off after r8. but try to re-itterate a new chapter into the game, bringing actual new assets. a larger lore, an expanded list of enemies with actually intriguing counterplay. new scans and in general new strategies. if you did that and then re-used your original markering avenues or anything you'll not only bring in new players but as you can imagine, re-bring old. MC shouldn't be a goal but i understand the thought. although wouldn't keeping a very passionate community relevant and loved be good for the company image and future?

also new tiles for maps and rooms would be a cool idea <3

[hollow quarry]

As you can imagine, GTFO has a very special place in the hearts of the founders. Without it's success, there would be no 10 Chambers in the form it is today. I personally believe that your suggestion is a solid one. Let's see what the future holds. We for sure want to leave GTFO in the best possible state when support actually ends.

[hazy coyote]

an expanded list of enemies with actually intriguing counterplay
Do you really hate all the current enemies?
I'd prefer a new project tbh.

[white palm]

a new project as in a new game???

[hazy coyote]

Yeah, after a while some little issues in GTFO can get on the nerves, and I got fairly comfortable in how I approach expeditions. I trust in 10CC to make something enjoyable, and I'd appreciate their take on a new game.
I'm still here for the reruns and R8 of course.

[modern coral]

That very much depends on what the new game is going to be like.

For people that really love GTFO, there are no horde shooters that are like GTFO other than GTFO.

R6E tried, at least.

[white palm]

facts

[hazy coyote]

They have proven themselves with a weird and difficult coop shooter, I highly doubt they'll transition into left 4 dead copycats similar to most other coop shooters.
That would be terrible

[white palm]

they have proven themselves but recently they have fell off on proving that they are the people that made GTFO

[covert gale]

"waaa mommy im bored of this game, it does something weird and difficult well but its not to my liking. make them do a new game that i like. waaa 😭 😭 😭 "

[modern coral]

My main concern is less that it will be a Payday clone and more that it won't fill the void GTFO leaves behind.

[wispy bluff]

GTFO 2: Get Out Harder

[modern coral]

It could be its own thing without having much if any of the same appeal as GTFO.

And then what's left, DRG?

[white palm]

at that point why are they even trying to simulate GTFO they should go off with their new game and or keep gtfo in gtfo

[hazy coyote]

I'm saying I like weird and I like GTFO. I don't like common coop shooters like back 4 blood or vermintide

[sharp owl]

@modern coral hey how do I kill scout?

[wispy bluff]

L4D2 still alive and kicking with all the insane mods it has

[sharp owl]

L4D2 is actually super fucking boring lolol

[modern coral]

That too, they probably don't want to and shouldn't make a "GTFO clone," so we'll surely lose at least something along the way here.

[sharp owl]

CALLE

[modern coral]

Hit head big damage

[sharp owl]

R3 is 12 pm not 12 am right?

[hollow quarry]

13:00 CET if that helps

(changing that to Discord time-thingie)

[sharp owl]

Yes perfect ty

[modern coral]

7AM EST for me.

[sharp owl]

Thats 10pm for me

Prime gaymer hours

[modern coral]

Smh, Aussies.

[sharp owl]

I’m gonna one shot it with the boys

Try for 2 hrs

[hollow quarry]

<t:1677758400:f>

[sharp owl]

Thanks

[hollow quarry]

Updated the announcement as well, thanks for reminding me

[hollow quarry]

"GTFO but with unicorns"

[hazy coyote]

GTFO but this time it's just zombies

[hollow quarry]

NightZ

[white palm]

it'd be something new

[covert gale]

it'd be new content

which'd be nice :)

[hollow quarry]

MLP crossover

[covert gale]

not human

[wispy bluff]

.t ...

[foggy plank]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/548486572811747328/747581149034840074/umm_wait_meme.jpeg

[covert gale]

@hollow quarry may i ask who runs the tiktok?

[viscid trellis]

i can't believe R6E die before GTFO

[mint light]

I can.

that game was soooooo bad. But I mean ubisoft lately is dropping every ball

[wispy bluff]

Fitting that their logo is a steal ball.

[mint light]

Now that you say so

[modern coral]

Tbh I'm not even sure what I don't like about R6E.

Too roguelike, I guess?

Say what you want about GTFO level design, that shit is way more hand-crafted than any R6E encounter.

[wispy bluff]

Too ADHD and too much yellow.

[coarse grail]

this almost sounds like an endorsement to me, enjoying roguelikes so much 😅

[modern coral]

Weird thing is, DRG feels a lot better to me.

Some of that might be my own bias, though.

[wispy bluff]

Is it because it got charm and charisma

[coarse grail]

I couldn't get on with the aesthetic and theme of DRG

[modern coral]

I don't play R6 at all, and have no interest in picking it up.

[coarse grail]

After the cold seriousness of GTFO

[modern coral]

DRG movement is fun as fuck.

[wispy bluff]

With manly dwarves drinking bear before going to bug hell

[modern coral]

I just don't view it as like GTFO, personally, it scratches a different itch.

That was my main takeaway from my first 100ish hours, really.

Shocking to learn that Steam Forums users haver lower than average IQs, I know, but it's true.

[covert gale]

same as gtfo general chat on most given times

just drg talks mainly about dwarves

[mint light]

Those are special breeds man

[modern coral]

At least the DRG comparison makes some vague amount of sense, even if it's just wrong.

Hunt: Showdown comparisons are completely lost.

The connection between Hunt and GTFO is ???

Might as well compare it to Dark Souls at that point.

[vestal crystal]

how does gtfo compare to darktide, ive never played it

[viscid trellis]

darktide are in a dark era right now

they did drop a big patch last week

[wispy bluff]

Darktide is literally just vermintide just in 40k instead of rats of ultramar

Initial impression were good, but I heard people bashing the shit out of progression system

[mint light]

People just want to compare games based on the fact they are co op 🤪

[wispy bluff]

Very predatory and microtransactions encouraging

[viscid trellis]

you can't really defend when the first thing that complete is the microtransaction store

[wispy bluff]

200 hours of gameplay to unlock the smallest customisation pieces.

[mint light]

Well I saw the hype for it, then remembered it took the devs a year to make vermintide good and decided to wait for a deep sale

[viscid trellis]

tbh, just wait for all the game

unless they showed us something stupidly good

[mint light]

Nowadays yes

The only game I bought on release was elden ring

in the last 2 years

[viscid trellis]

i bought son of the forest

i like building

and the building in that game was top notch

[mint light]

Haven't played the forest so that hype was lost on me

Apparently it's pretty good.

[viscid trellis]

after years of EA, ye

[mint light]

My survival game was Ark so I know what that feels like.

[viscid trellis]

unfortunately for them, back then, they didn't have that much feedback

they only have steam discussion

[mint light]

ugh

[sharp owl]

THE R3 IS REAL

[viscid trellis]

they can also focus on youtuber

[mint light]

So when will you be asking for R4?

[sharp owl]

When R4?

[viscid trellis]

are we doing the meme

the funny?

[mint light]

I mean creative assembly listened to a letter signed by their youtubers and patched the suggestion in

[viscid trellis]

yup

[distant rover]

We have a theory…

[mint light]

do tell

[viscid trellis]

there are a bunch of youtuber who sent letter (email) directly to Endnight (the devs)

[distant rover]

I quote

“so team, is anyone going to talk about the fact that alt r2's release and alt r3's release were both announced <= 7 days after scaler's guides for the previous alt rundown was finished uploading?”

[modern coral]

What was it about, why did they send it?

[distant rover]

Hence if we peer pressure Dr Scaler

R4 has to be dropped early

That’s just how it works

right?

[coarse grail]

It shouldn't take him so long to make a guide for R3 so we might get R4 sooner

[modern coral]

R4 in one month!? 👀 👀

[viscid trellis]

game suggestion

since steam suggestion was a cluster fuck

[mint light]

Ah yes I saw that theory

[viscid trellis]

those youtuber are now good enough to even get to play test Son of the forest and can directly tell the devs what to do

they are still now sending email for game suggestion

[modern coral]

I'm 50/50 on that model.

[viscid trellis]

well, when your whole community suggestion is just

[modern coral]

Having good avenues for feedback is good, but you don't want to follow player suggestions 100%.

[viscid trellis]

"S3x mod when?"

[sharp owl]

Guys we’re gonna get the r4/r5/r6 triple drop trust

[hollow quarry]

My awesome colleague @obsidian light

[obsidian light]

Yah it’s me

[mint light]

You can stop now. it ain't happening 😔

[wispy bluff]

Facelifting takes time, apparently.

[mint light]

Bruh don't put salt in the wound

we hurtin out here

[wispy bluff]

So when alt 2 was released?

[jaunty pollen]

i hate this time

no mnay human

many

[wispy bluff]

Early December, if announcements are good for reference...

Hm. Yeah, alt 3 basically took almost 4 months.
~3,5 to be precise.

[mint light]

I know ! but why you add to the pain. We already know R4 will come like early july😭

[wispy bluff]

If we are to assume that bigger and more diverse rundowns will require more time in the oven... Oof. R5 will be cooking for like 4 months probably.

[coarse grail]

But R2 took less time than R3 right?

[mint light]

Yeah true

but still

I think R4 will be the one just before their summer holidays to keep people busy during summer

[coarse grail]

I just hope they are taking a bit longer on this one to space things out evenly

because they know how impatient people get

[viscid trellis]

the dev did R2 dirty back in the day

so now they want to redeem and give people more time to beat Alt:R2

[tropic pendant]

How can you just assume reasonable dates based on their past release pattern?????!!!

[mint light]

Juli is not a REASONABLE date

[tropic pendant]

I meant reasonable in terms of actually being possible instead of "Probably 2024" ^^

[wispy bluff]

Duck barging in hot and heavy

[tropic pendant]

Hey im not that heavy 😦

[coarse grail]

He hot tho

[regal mauve]

I',m heavy

110 kg

[serene jewel]

r2c2 doesn't seem that bad at least, I'm sure I could do it with bots before r2d2

[mint light]

R2C2 is very easy. R2D2 will be more of a challenge. R2E1 you won't do with bots if you are a new player. Or at least very unlikely

[wispy bluff]

Highly unlikely. Bots will get eaten in first 30 seconds on any of the surges.

[mint light]

That's not really a problem they do better than expected on surges apparently

[winged narwhal]

30 seconds? You seem to believe in them a lot....

[mint light]

But the cell+ fog turbine + neonate will be hell

[wispy bluff]

I mostly believe in my ability to protect them for 30 seconds

[winged narwhal]

I can protect them until I need to reload

[wicked solstice]

Bots were fine on the first E1 surge for me, does it get worse for them?

For reference it’s the only part I’ve played bc my crew is going in blind

[winged narwhal]

Yes, because of bugged bots

[mint light]

Ah well so no spoilers?

[winged narwhal]

I won't say any more than that to avoid spoiling

[wicked solstice]

oh

[mint light]

In that case: it gets worse

[wicked solstice]

K ty!

All I know is it has like 5-6 surges

[winged narwhal]

That surge is basically you getting permission to play the level after all

[coarse grail]

The first surge is a vibe check

[wicked solstice]

Yeah we just haven’t had time/motivation to play recently

[coarse grail]

Here be ||dragons||

oops spoiler

[wicked solstice]

Ayo Scaler in level confirmed?

[mint light]

Nah but with bots it's the last part that's gonna be hell

[wicked solstice]

Oh fuck they can’t pick up items in combat rn I forgot

[winged narwhal]

They had to bug that because we were having too much fun with bots once they fixed bot going up/down ladders with items

[mint light]

there ya go

[wicked solstice]

._. Me just wanting to try and clear R7C2 with bots

[winged narwhal]

Enjoy the 100% infection

Tbh the only part I would say that actually makes much worse is the second set of batteries

[wicked solstice]

Yeah

But that one part will be hell

[digital zephyr]

Is there usually not a lot of people in soloq or are my research parameters too specific? I've been looking for about 15m and haven't found anyone

[modern coral]

MM or LFG?

[digital zephyr]

Mm

[modern coral]

MM is very underused, and not in an amazing state either way.

[digital zephyr]

Oh okay

[modern verge]

Especially when considering the teamplay the game encourages mm is inherently flawed

[digital zephyr]

Yeah it makes sense, but I still wanted to try

[modern verge]

Yea I get that

Lfg's usually more active later in the day

I'd say in about 2-4 hours from now it begins getting more active

[coarse grail]

When the Europes get off work

[digital zephyr]

Ook thanks !

We just got the game recently with a friend and tried r1a1 with 2 bots and got destroyed ahah

[rose nova]

just some funky funky advice with lfg!
ask to not be carried and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur vc

[wispy bluff]

I'll be back home in 3 hours lul

9:PM shift is my duty

[digital zephyr]

I'll keep that in mind

[mint light]

Just hit the #lfg-beginners you'll be fine

[rose nova]

no one has done it right

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[rose nova]

boop

[coarse grail]

Idk, I think what Slendi says has some merit

even in beginners you're gonna get rushers

[rose nova]

always ask and if they dont say
anythin or just
ignore u

run away disconnect

throw ur computer

:D

refund gtfo

/j

[wispy bluff]

Dafaq are you talking about

[mint light]

There have been some twats around lately

[mint light]

Imagine is special

[rose nova]

:3

[digital zephyr]

Well I'll be sure to try it soon enough

I don't have much time rn so I'll just jump in a game with bots to get more of the feeling of the game and I'll come back tonight

[rose nova]

yeah u can just do funky experimentation n the meantime :]

[coarse grail]

Where were you losing on your runs before @digital zephyr ?

one of the alarms?

[digital zephyr]

Last question, do sleepers react to ig vc ?

[rose nova]

ah nope!

only in game sounds

[digital zephyr]

Yup, the one with giant sleepers

[rose nova]

ohh yeah i think its the first one
well luckily is very early in the level

so u can try a lot of stuff!

:3

[mint light]

te hnically both have a chance of spawning them

[rose nova]

uh well but more the first one right

[mint light]

So the real question is class II or class IV

[mint light]

Not necessarily. you could even say that with improper preparation you'll fight more waves on the class IV and thus have more chance of more giants spawning

[digital zephyr]

Yeah I just got it on the first alarm ahah, so I was loosing at the second one

[mint light]

Class IV it is

[rose nova]

ohh

[unreal crystal]

Thanks I guess

[rose nova]

great gtfo info

[unreal crystal]

huge

[viscid trellis]

<@&408548765599793173>

imagine having a stable internet

can't be me

[exotic oar]

im really struggling to find any players with matchmaking for first mission, or should i find people here?

[vestal kernel]

thanks alpha

[rose nova]

dont use the ingame matchmakin, it doesnt really work

use the lfg!

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[rose nova]

just some advice!
ask to not be carried, be sure to do the tutorial first [Training]
make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur vc

[exotic oar]

i already played in last patches so im familiar with a game

i just really dont want to play and talk, i just need fellow players(

[rose nova]

u dont need to have ur mic unmuted, u can specify u just use the ingame chat

or the ingame Q menu

[exotic oar]

ok thx

[rose nova]

okii good luck

[sharp owl]

is there a reason why this game still doesn't have any progression system after being out for over 2 years at this point

i keep coming back to this game every 5 or so months and no progress has been made on that front

roadmap says it's not even in development

just possibly planned

[rose nova]

this game isnt really about levels or experience points or anythin

the only progress here is u learn, u unlock harder levels

and u unlock cool clothes

and thats, really what we need

[sharp owl]

yeah idk about that

ive fully completed every single rundown and its just getting tedious at this point

i don't like the fact that my experience allows me to just steamroll through rundowns

and that loadout variety is still nonexistent for the most part

meta loadouts havent changed

like, at all

[thick temple]

since when is there a meta loadout in this game

[rose nova]

i mean idk what thing u could have apart from that
guns? they r all unlocked and its better like that, we have like 25, and if u dont wanna use meta weapons u dont need to
levels? the hardest ones are blocked by completion

i applaud u completin every level

[wraith marsh]

since always lol

[rose nova]

is a great accomplishment

[thick temple]

tools kinda but like i feel like i never see everyone running the same guns

[sharp owl]

fr

[rose nova]

but if u want an extra challenge, theres no way to really make one, the hardest levels are there already

u could try to duo em or solo some

[rose nova]

tbh yes there r some

[wraith marsh]

you arent really pushed to use meta in this game which is pretty nice

but its DEFINITELY there

[rose nova]

u can use every gun

which is great

[sharp owl]

like just adding weapon attachments would do so much for me

[rose nova]

but there is

some cool

[sharp owl]

some of the sights on these guns are just

[coarse grail]

you want to have to grind for gear that is good enough instead of winning based on the merit of your skill?

[thick temple]

then it sounds like that's on you for choosing to use the same guns

[sharp owl]

horrendous

[sharp owl]

no

lmao

[wraith marsh]

completely misses the point like a boss

[rose nova]

yeah but this game is very fined tuned with balance, they already kinda fuck up sometimes
addin somwthin like that would be MONUMENTAL

[sharp owl]

new sights would fuck up the balance?

[wraith marsh]

imagine how do you talk here so often

[thick temple]

a meta doesn't matter if you don't use it bro

[turbid fable]

That was a dev problem, its suppose to get harder and harder with each rundown but in the End they decided for a More public approch with checkpoints and "not that hard levels"

[wraith marsh]

I feel like leaving after 2 seconds of talking everytime

[coarse grail]

What sort of progression system do you mean then? Not something that makes the player stronger?

[thick temple]

that's not very chill dude of you

[wicked solstice]

Yeah adding a progression system in rn would entirely change the game

[rose nova]

ah sights
mh i guess it could be cool but
not very
different from apparel

[sharp owl]

even just like

weapon cosmetics

[rose nova]

YEAH

[sharp owl]

new sights

[rose nova]

that would be awesome

weapon skins tbh

[sharp owl]

shit like that

[rose nova]

unlocked by achievements

[sharp owl]

that would do so much

[coarse grail]

so, like the cosmetics that are already in the game?

[rose nova]

achievements r in the roadmap since ages ago

[coarse grail]

Why are weapon cosmetics so different from that

[rose nova]

so why not add em too

[modern verge]

Melee weapon like a wooden bat instead of the bat

[rose nova]

they could be unlocked differently! like apparel in the beginning

:D

[wraith marsh]

can I get stickers for my guns

[grizzled bison]

That's crazy how adding new content would improve the game

[turbid fable]

I live for modded weapons, like you unlock sights, barrels, underbarrel attachment, magazines, ammo type

[wraith marsh]

🥺

[grizzled bison]

Very outlandish theory

[modern verge]

Like the bonk

[sharp owl]

just make reskins of certain guns that are achievement locked and you've successfully tricked me into thinking im playing with new content while retaining balance

but i would like full weapon modding

[grizzled bison]

They aren't going to do that

[turbid fable]

I know 🥹

[coarse grail]

I'm curious how you think weapon modding would work while retaining balance

[lunar island]

thats not possible currently with how the datablocks are built.

[rose nova]

ah full weapon moddin would be yeah super hard to do cause mag sizes are reload are just the product from 3 years

i would love skins

[coarse grail]

scopes and weapon skins sure, thats fun, why not

[rose nova]

but general stats of weapons would be so

hard

[sharp owl]

look at the end of the day if the dev team can't balance basic weapon modding for the same 20 or so guns that have been in since launch then idk what to say

tradeoff-based modding is easy to balance

[rose nova]

easy to balance

mh

[coarse grail]

They can't balance the same 20 guns without modding...

[rose nova]

idk about that

[modern verge]

Some simple magnifying options as modification to guns would be cool

But you keep one for the entire mission