ember vale
I refer to the statement in the 21 CC post "easier than ever".
Kindly indicate which way of upgrade was easier?
Previous
(using metal and oil and thor)
or
Current System
(doing a 7min "holdout" type base or
10min IV base for Iridium)
In my opinion using original factories and
even hitting bases for metal and oil and thor was
much easier.
haughty silo
I prefer metal and oil cause you had production buildings that for the most part helps your base to be self sustainable without going to the map to grab res
old oak
They've made it another grind with the Iridium. This is another change nobody asked for...
remote flame
I just tried a Iridium 2 base got smashed and only did wave 1 lord only knows how many more waves there are.
fringe magnet
Chill, Iridium is a good thing. When they add any new type of base or revamp an old style base it's always hard at first. They will get easier as new units are added. The game needed a new challenge and change is good to prevent the game from getting stale.
rose thorn
Except there was zero reason to gut the base power levels with upgrade 21. So we have to upgrade the new powerplants to even have base at 100%. That change was unnecessary. Costly and time consuming.
and Kabuto has had its fire effect nerfed. so the fire units kill and its not free repair
fringe magnet
and Kabuto has had its fire effect nerfed. so the fire units kill and its not fr...
I tend to agree power is too limited now. I have all maxed power plants and I have to lower two options to minimum to max out one option, and then my power used verses power produced is right on the line. Seems like there should be more of a margin to work with there. Lose one power plant while being attacked and your base is heavily weakened. The power generator bastion will probably help a little but not enough imo. And it's a pain to maintain those weapons lab bastions all the time. Maybe they will throw us another power plant to build or allow all power plants to become advanced?
old oak
They need to put Iridium in the medals store next to the thorium. These bases are ridiculous.
elder latch
give players more busier. spent more times. .... who sitting play all days and long time per day?
little abyss
No one says you have to do the hardest base on the map.. and no one says you have to do just one at time.. the style of the lower bases you can do multiple at one time.
gilded crater
but it triples the grind, that grind that we are complaining on for years now, to fill up for example the walls, you need to do 110 base 1
old oak
This is a game killer. The most basic part of the game was easy resources to upgrade your buildings. Now you need to do these massively overpowered bases (including defensive waves that nobody wants to do but now they are forced to) just to get barely any iridium.
charred prairie
Dear friends of Kixeye, with your idea for Iridium, you've bitten off more than you can chew... a truly great idea to ruin the game. It's not easy, but now to upgrade, you have to spend more time doing it, even if it's just two days. At least make the Iridium bases less strong... at least low-level players can enjoy the game.
tight kiln
Dear friends of Kixeye, with your idea for Iridium, you've bitten off more than ...
Low level players won't have anything to do with Iridium until they reach high level buildings
ember vale
Low levels argument does not hold water, as all iri bases are currently 1 hit bases, so every one (low level, returning players and high level) has to do them as oppose to previous where metal and oil was available in base (factories etc), bases on map (not being 1 hit), and even supply and metal bases.
loud yoke
As he stated , low level upgrades are still metal oil, higher level upgrades got changed to iridium
tight kiln
Anything pre CC21 still requires metal and Oil, so until you reach CC21, you won't have a need for Iridium outside bastions
ember vale
So now a low level have no way of adding bastions for increased defense, where previously he could have farmed core,chemicals and silicon very easily (or at least it was not 1 hit)?
tight kiln
A low level should not bother with pvp as it is not a place for them, they should focus on events and strengthening their units, once they reach a high level, they can start to look at pvp, until then, bastions are a waste of time for them outside any PVE defensive content
ember vale
A low level should not bother with pvp as it is not a place for them, they shoul...
I beg to differ, but I'm gonna rest my case here regarding low level and their need for iri.
tight kiln
Say all you want, what i said is what they should be doing
bright halo
Iridium Bases need a MASSIVE Difficulty Reduction. Game is not gonna last if everything is constant Overkill or as Kixeye calls it "Challenging". Plain and Simple.
loud yoke
Difficulty reduction on what base exactly? @bright halo
gilded crater
Low level players won't have anything to do with Iridium until they reach high l...
That is bs and you know that, every player does have a lvl 20 CC, they all could upgrade CC to lvl 20 for free, so everyone will upgrade CC to lvl 21, for all levels on TC, Academy, Hangar, War Factory, Airfield, Barracks, you need iridium now (25.000) the Weapons lab does cost 50.000. Here i show you a base of one of my clan members lvl 41, his units are just low level as before all the upgrades he got for free he was limited to lvl 10 units, how can he obtain 25.000 iridium with those units?
little abyss
That is bs and you know that, every player does have a lvl 20 CC, they all coul...
Rob, no one says he has to do the highest level base. He can do the lower holdout style bases. if planed right you can do multiple bases at the same time.
loud yoke
This problem is every single person in game regardless of level or skill wants the do the highest level base cause they feel they are entitled to do it.... this is why they havent brought back ultra bases... do the base that your skill level / units dictate or you will go nowhere.
gilded crater
Rob, no one says he has to do the highest level base. He can do the lower holdo...
can he do the lvl 1 base with, missionary lvl 10, pioneers lvl12, goliaths lvl 11 , bombards lvl 15? As he doesn't have purgators, That account did start early this year. He can't play Skirmish, Strike Force, he hardly can do the low level tiers in main event. He could do Shadow Ops the former round of Shadow Ops with a lot repair, but he managed to get the workshop, but with the current round he has nothing that can kill the air, even a Shadow Ops 1 a low level can't do them. That isn't quit encouraging for starting players, that they can't do anything on themself anymore, that they need help with everything. You know what those new players do, they quit after a few months. As they don't get the addiction we have after 12/13 years of playing. For new players there are better games which give more satisfaction then WC a Farmville on steroids.
loud yoke
can he do the lvl 1 base with, missionary lvl 10, pioneers lvl12, goliaths lvl 1...
He did the mission track last event and got sirens?
tight kiln
That is bs and you know that, every player does have a lvl 20 CC, they all coul...
The package did not grant you upgrades all the way to maxed cc 20 base, and if it does, that still does not hold any relevance as we are in Arc 1 still and we have a month at the least to go to Arc 2 and the current Arc 1 units can easily do any of the 3 bases free repair, and as a low level player, the weapons lab should not be on his list as PVP is only manageable with a high end base and units.
And even then, Arc 2 units can probably go to lvl 10 with the current levels he has which is more than managable.
Nothing i said is bs nor remotely close, but you need to understand that if you are not able to beat a base then you are not good enough or well equipped to take it on and should go after a lower difficulty target until you have what it takes to do it.
Git gud basically as Drake has said yesterday
tranquil junco
reward more iridium/base 
gilded crater
The package did not grant you upgrades all the way to maxed cc 20 base, and if i...
You even can't read, that it wasn't about me, i am lvl 52 with nearly all units maxed. It are the responses of you and some of the mods, that low players players don't come to discord and share their opinion as they feel not heard. Kixeye wants to attract new players, that is one of the reasons that they want to go Steam, but then they must make first the game fun and playable for low level as well as now low level do wonder if they should go on, i see that in my clan, i see that in my sector.
loud yoke
You even can't read, that it wasn't about me, i am lvl 52 with nearly all units ...
Please show me where someone says that lowers shouldn't come to discord and share their opinions... when u accuse me of something be specific, players of all levels should target what they can handle, if some at a level can do it then we shouldn't change the entire game cause some cant, you either learn cause this is a war game,u either adjust or drown Or you hit a lower target that you can handle.
tight kiln
You even can't read, that it wasn't about me, i am lvl 52 with nearly all units ...
I suggest you re-read my sentence as i never once addressed you in it.
And try to argue as an Adult and not a toddler that blames people for stuff not relevant to the discussion, when you do that, im open to replying to what you might say next time
queen crown
No one says you have to do the hardest base on the map.. and no one says you h...
Sure, refill 400k of Iridium with 2k per hit... sure, 200 bases, easy, for our good
queen crown
Please show me where someone says that lowers shouldn't come to discord and shar...
Used to be that this was a forum to give feedback, and would be met with "we will relay that for review by the development team". Now, even players that have been around for 12 to 13 years, are met with "you are all wrong, we said it was easy, so it is easy". Might be why they are reluctant to speak out? Just sayin.
loud yoke
I personally relay all feedback and offer my opinion, that opinion is blunt and always in the best interest of the games longevity. I also see no reluctance from players with voicing their opinion, but it does need to be done in an adult and professional manner per the rules.
elder latch
Sure, refill 400k of Iridium with 2k per hit... sure, 200 bases, easy, for our ...
200 bases, how much time you spent? tell me.. 1 hour or 2 hours?
sage light
Also I see the players saying 10 minutes to spend on IV base etc… I have a toon that can do 3 bases on Rubi which a slight adjustment move…. until it dies and repairs … 3 bases quickly… if you can do it with damage and get 2-3 bases that’s not bad at all… almost close to 350k iridium and just been doing that because doing it easy way took too much time for me