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#Everest crashing on startup on Steam Deck
wet gust
I was wondering if anyone can help me with information on how to install Olympus on steam deck
wet gust
Please help 🥺, with the steam deck is my first time using Linux os so i don't even know how to install Olympus on it
proven garnet
I was wondering if anyone can help me with information on how to install Olympus...
Please make a separate help post rather than tagging on to someone else's
wet gust
Sorry, i didn't know that
final kestrel
I've attached the log here. The error is a "Too many open files" exception. I looked this up on the Everest resources, and the only advice for this is to make sure the mods are in zip files. All of the mods I have were installed through Olympus and are already in zip files; I have a few dozen (most of which are dependencies), but not a number that should be unreasonable (nor, I think, as many as work completely fine on my desktop PC).
Any advice here would be appreciated.
final kestrel
So I'm trying that, and as far as I can tell, it's not working. That said, the only way I can find to directly set MONO_MANAGED_WATCHER is in the terminal using export, which I don't think saves it systemwide. As I understand it, to do that, I would have to put the line in etc/environment, but as far as I can tell that's read only and I have no idea how to give myself the permissions to do that
I'm not the most experienced linux user
I've been trying for the last half hour to set that variable unsuccessfully and I can't find any direct information on the matter that isn't for much more experienced linux users
proven garnet
I am not that experienced with linux either, but if you want to edit a file you don't have permissions for, you use sudo
final kestrel
So I ran "sudo vim environment" in the folder, and it opened, but it still doesn't let me actually type or do anything in the file
proven garnet
Just to check, do you know how to use vim
final kestrel
Oop, it seems the keyboard had just locked up at an inconvenient time, which is annoyingly frequent in desktop mode. It seems to be working now
proven garnet
Awesome, hopefully this helps
final kestrel
Not really lol but for basic text editing I've done it successfully a couple times. I'll try this now!
proven garnet
Alright, was just making sure you weren't stuck in the wrong mode or something
final kestrel
Okay now it's not letting me save. "Could not write to /etc/environment.part"
proven garnet
That sounds like the same permission error, which is weird
final kestrel
Yeah, and this was opened with sudo (I switched to nano because i really dont get vim lol)
proven garnet
I would have done the same tbh
final kestrel
Wait, I just remembered. I think the Steam Deck has a lot of the system folders set to read-only by default. This can be disabled to edit them, but the changes can be reverted anytime there's an update
proven garnet
If that doesn't work out for you, I have another idea
final kestrel
What's your idea? I'd rather do the readonly stuff as a last resort because I don't want to have to do this every time there's an update
proven garnet
Could you try going to your Celeste installation folder, then setting the variable with an export command, then running Celeste from the terminal
pine lance
you could always run celeste with MONO_MANAGED_WATCHER=whatever path/to/Celeste
proven garnet
Yeah, that basically
I couldn't remember the syntax for doing that in a single line
pine lance
if the celeste folder itself is read-writable, you could add the export command to the Celeste shell script, which i'm pretty sure is what actually launches the game
final kestrel
just tried "MONO_MANAGED_WATCHER=disabled ./Celeste", no dice 😦 It still crashes right after the EXOK logo
proven garnet
Could you run ulimit -n and see what the result is
pine lance
are you sure you can't set it higher?
proven garnet
According to that issue linked earlier, you can put a number after the -n to change it
Don't know if it goes up though
final kestrel
Ohhh whoops. I missed that, sorry 😅
Trying now
Okay it looks like the number went up. Lemme try now
pine lance
yea, there's a soft limit and a hard limit (i.e. a limit for the soft limit)
you can change the hard limit by editing a config file somewhere, but you might not need to
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/34588/how-do-i-change-the-number-of-open-files-limit-in-linux/
proven garnet
Why is there a limit at all? Just to stop a bugged program from causing chaos?
pine lance
Okay it looks like the number went up. Lemme try now
if this works, you can put the ulimit -n <num> at the start of the Celeste file (just after the cd is probably a good place) to have it run for each celeste launch
final kestrel
Okay I set it once and tried it, and it wasn't enough. Now I'm trying and it's saying "bash: ulimit: open files: cannot modify limit: Operation not permitted"
pine lance
you'll have to change the hard limit then
does the file /etc/security/limits.conf exist? is it writable?
final kestrel
The issue wasn't that the hard limit was too high, it seems. I just restarted the steam deck and tried again, and it works. It looks like I can only change ulimit once per session.
The first one worked and it gives me the error every attempt after that
pine lance
hmm interesting
pine lance
if this works, you can put the `ulimit -n <num>` at the start of the `Celeste` f...
does doing this ^ work?
proven garnet
I've tested this on a laptop I have, and it seems I can raise the ulimit once, but lower it as many times as I want
final kestrel
Okay well instead of crashing now the game just freezes up on the loading screen
progress
proven garnet
Freezes completely? Or takes a very long time?
final kestrel
Granted it could take a very long time. But after a full minute of zero animation or audio whatsoever I'm concluding it's just frozen
proven garnet
Okay, yeah, zero animation sounds like it's frozen
pine lance
can you send log.txt?
final kestrel
Yep. I'm trying this one more time on a much higher ulimit, and if it doesn't work I'll send the log
Nope, it just crashed again lol
Gimme a minute to get the log sent
pine lance
still System.IO.IOException: Too many open files
maybe try with, say, only one mod enabled?
final kestrel
Okay. Lemme try clearing out the mod list
Okay clearing out like 10 mods worked
I accidentally started celeste in that interim but yeah, it worked lol
pine lance
ok i guess it was still ulimit or something. on my computer i have it at 1048576; what happens if you try to load eg. spring collab & dependencies with that ulimit?
pine lance
ah. have you tried setting it equal to the hard limit?
final kestrel
I was still getting crashes at 500000 (that was before i knew my hard limit was around 502000)
pine lance
ouch. might just be a limitation of the steam deck unless you want to raise the hard limit
pine lance
I was still getting crashes at 500000 (that was before i knew my hard limit was ...
idea: try making ulimit really big, and also setting MONO_MANAGED_WATCHER=disabled
final kestrel
Okay. I'll do the thing where I insert those at the start of the celeste script
Do I set that latter one with "export MONO_MANAGED_WATCHER=disabled"?
oki
So editing the Celeste file has turned it into a text file and it no longer executes
How can I change it back?
pine lance
chmod +x Celeste
final kestrel
That didn't seem to do anything :/
um okay
apparently nano just inserts a line
at the top of the file saying it was modified by nano
And that's messing everything up
I have no idea how to fix that
o wait
that only saved the output of the console that was visible
not the file itself
final kestrel
Alright, it appears to be working!
Setting the ulimit and using export MONO_MANAGED_WATCHER=disabled in the Celeste script file appears to have worked 😊
I have a pretty wide smattering of mods here, including the winter and spring collabs, and the game launched successfully even after installing all the dependencies
Thank you @pine lance and @proven garnet for all the help!! 😊