unless you're running experimental arch linux port for aarch64 like me
#celeste linux on nintendo switch thread
silver merlin
manic tinsel
I’m just not a fan of the whole ppa thing
I’ve got “everything must be package” mentality
mystic umbra
congrats 2k messages
manic tinsel
If you pull up with an install script from Microsoft I’ll freak out and call treason
Hi DaNike! Thanks for popping in 
napkin wants to install Everest on their modded Nintendo Switch running Ubuntu aarch64.
napkin doesn’t have much technical knowledge in this area, so we’ve been helping them along and explaining what we’re doing.
silver merlin
though in this stage even if you install it you won't have sound
manic tinsel
We’ll wait for them to wake up, and then we’ll try a dotnet build of just MonoMod
manic tinsel
though in this stage even if you install it you won't have sound
Yep, they’re aware. They’re invested now—they paid $35 to get a modchip installed on the Switch lol
silver merlin
lmfao
silver merlin
we just need a talented dev to port that over to everest
what's next, celeste for ppc64le? /j
manic tinsel
Celeste on toaster.
upper hound
ah
silver merlin
those are big endian machines
upper hound
yeah i figured now without the le suffix
silver merlin
PPC64le is POWER8+
mystic umbra
isnt ppc what the wii ran?
manic tinsel
Time to rewrite FMOD 
upper hound
i hate it when they will definitely won't have sound /lh
silver merlin
unless someone makes library emulator from amd64 to ppc64le/loongarch64/riscv64/etc
mystic umbra
i think someone ran celeste on the wii already??
upper hound
i love processor architectures
manic tinsel
i think someone ran celeste on the wii already??
Dear god
silver merlin
or somehow make that WASM version into linux shared library
upper hound
i vaguely remember though
you're confusing it with popax wanting to port .net to wii
mystic umbra
was that not 3ds
upper hound
i think
silver merlin
there's PICO-8 version for wii tho
mystic umbra
yeah i remember that
upper hound
idk i like just woke up half an hour ago
manic tinsel
going back to bed
mystic umbra
thankfully that went nowhere 
manic tinsel
me. I’m going back to bed
coincidentally we sent those two messages at the same time
bweh
upper hound
didn't expect to see danike show up tbh
silver merlin
holy 16h difference
mystic umbra
holy shit its 7am for you
mystic umbra
i meant angel
silver merlin
oof
mystic umbra
its been a while since i got up before 10am on a sunday lmao
manic tinsel
yeah I usually get up at 8 or 9
silver merlin
almost monday here
silver merlin
thankfully no lecture on mondays and fridays
mystic umbra
okay makes sense
manic tinsel
holy 16h difference
which country are you from?
silver merlin
if i were in nk i'd been executed
manic tinsel
for transness?
silver merlin
and gayness
manic tinsel
:<
I’m from China, immigrated to Canada
but you could tell from my about me
genuinely we’ve got people from around the world in this discord server trying to get Everest on this switch
truly an avengers assemble moment
silver merlin
yeah
manic tinsel
adamd I see you typing
dox yourself
upper hound
started out from one clueless person trying to run celeste on the switch to an entire group of clueless people trying to run celeste on the switch
mystic umbra
i mean we are just hanging out at this point
upper hound
yes
silver merlin
yeah lol
I did manage to run celeste on other aarch64 machine at least
my trustworthy macbook air-chan
manic tinsel
hooray
manic tinsel
oh while you’re here “both my usernames are yuri characters also I was invited to Ubuntu summit”
silver merlin
lol
manic tinsel
are there any Rosetta specific bugs on Celeste?
mystic umbra
yes
manic tinsel
awh
mystic umbra
piton dies for some users on rosetta
silver merlin
it's nested jit, what do you expect lol
manic tinsel
Recently someone had what seems like a graphics driver bug, where some decals appeared malformed when moving. This was on macOS, and I was never able to figure out why
mystic umbra
we hit this after the .net 8 upgrade, after a bunch of pain to figure out why the hell going from .net 7 to .net 8 made piton crash
silver merlin
oh while you’re here “both my usernames are yuri characters also I was invited t...
uhh acktually my display name is yaoi
mystic umbra
turns out rust is evil and trolled me hugely
manic tinsel
uhh acktually my display name is yaoi
wartori 3paul react her
mystic umbra
there you go
mystic umbra
https://github.com/dotnet/runtime/issues/115438 this was so painful
manic tinsel
turns out rust is evil and trolled me hugely
like I’m not trying to say what did you expect. But
mystic umbra
it's nested jit, what do you expect lol
surprisingly the jit part works perfectly, or i have not seen any bug reports 
silver merlin
interesting
mystic umbra
like I’m not trying to say what did you expect. But
true..
silver merlin
since most of the emulation problem comes from nested jit or 16k pagesize
at least for me
manic tinsel
then again, not many Mac gamers in the world
it’s not your first choice when you’re looking for gaming performance
silver merlin
even fewer mac linux gaymers
manic tinsel
Most of the macOS usage I’ve seen is for creative work, which is why I kind of do want one
which definitely doesn’t stem from my hatred of windows. No of course not why would you
silver merlin
it does have quite good performance if you manage to run games
manic tinsel
I was booting back into my Windows partition last night to try and set up music production, because as we all know Linux audio is so ahhh and WINE will murder me
and my shell froze like 10 different times
Only times Arch Linux froze on me:
- an incorrect bottles configuration x2
- slurp and hyprpicker didn’t exit cleanly and became zombie
Windows froze 10! Times! In one session!
I feel like I’ve like. Seen the light or something and can’t go back 😭
mystic umbra
the only times arch has frozen for me was due to hardware failures lmao
manic tinsel
And this is especially true because I have a mid-tier laptop from like 2019
and it still works just fine in Arch
but Windows drags its feet like “are u sure u don’t wanna buy a shiny new computer”
silver merlin
arch's pretty solid minux arch arm
manic tinsel
Like I put my graphics settings to max while playing PEAK and it didn’t freeze the shell. Whole lotta lag but it still hung in there
silver merlin
arch arm: super slow update, partially updated packages causing problems
manic tinsel
I also hear the AUR has issues
I don’t think it’s possible to distribute multiple architectures through one AUR package?
manic tinsel
but most people don’t?
silver merlin
some aur packages are already multiarch capable
though most of the time just makepkg'ing after adding aarch64 will work
silver merlin
electron apps need manual intervention since it's output dir is different on aarch64
silver merlin
but well except that it works quite smoothly
manic tinsel
good software poorly maintained
silver merlin
that's why I'm hoping for proper arch linux ports aarch64 release
copper bane
i can't
i think
you tell me if any of those work
buh i keep forgetting i modded my switch and then its so weird waking up and turning it up to this thing 💔 💔
manic tinsel
i can't
I’m kidding lmao
Doing everything through the terminal with no GUI would be way too much for you at this stage
manic tinsel
-# but it would save storage
manic tinsel
buh i keep forgetting i modded my switch and then its so weird waking up and tur...
windows 7
how did it get wiped in the first place anyway?
copper bane
i was messing around with some homebrew, and i opened a corrupted one and it messed around with some files i think?
manic tinsel
huh.
copper bane
i tried to keep the switchroot/ubuntu-noble files but it didnt work and i got my data wiped anyway when wiping my sd card
i wiped it manually, but prayed it didn't delete my files basically
my save data and everything else is intact, i just have to redownload animal crossing
manic tinsel
well when you wipe the card you wipe the whole card
copper bane
eh whatever
it got wiped and i had to spend like 30 minutes getting back to where we were
upper hound
clone your sd card with a cloning utility imo
copper bane
noted
manic tinsel
anyways,,
open your terminal in Documents/Everest/external/MonoMod
we will try what DaNike suggested
copper bane
hold on i'm checking if celeste runs
`FULLSCREEN
GAME DISPLAYED (in 6079ms)
System.DllNotFoundException: libfmodstudio.so.10 assembly:<unknown assembly> type:<unknown type> member:(null)
at (wrapper managed-to-native) FMOD.Studio.System.FMOD_Studio_System_Create(intptr&,uint)
at FMOD.Studio.System.create (FMOD.Studio.System& studiosystem) [0x00005] in <d7b2abb405ec4c97954549f0a02e4a41>:0
at Celeste.Audio.Init () [0x00010] in <d7b2abb405ec4c97954549f0a02e4a41>:0
at Celeste.GameLoader.LoadThread () [0x0000c] in <d7b2abb405ec4c97954549f0a02e4a41>:0
at Celeste.RunThread.RunThreadWithLogging (System.Action method) [0x00000] in <d7b2abb405ec4c97954549f0a02e4a41>:0
[ERROR] FATAL UNHANDLED EXCEPTION: System.ComponentModel.Win32Exception (0x80004005): Access denied
at System.Diagnostics.Process.StartWithShellExecuteEx (System.Diagnostics.ProcessStartInfo startInfo) [0x00102] in <4deb318bb3254cab91ca66698a056198>:0
at System.Diagnostics.Process.Start () [0x00032] in <4deb318bb3254cab91ca66698a056198>:0
at (wrapper remoting-invoke-with-check) System.Diagnostics.Process.Start()
at System.Diagnostics.Process.Start (System.Diagnostics.ProcessStartInfo startInfo) [0x0001b] in <4deb318bb3254cab91ca66698a056198>:0
at System.Diagnostics.Process.Start (System.String fileName) [0x00006] in <4deb318bb3254cab91ca66698a056198>:0
at Monocle.ErrorLog.Open () [0x00014] in <d7b2abb405ec4c97954549f0a02e4a41>:0
at Celeste.RunThread.RunThreadWithLogging (System.Action method) [0x00018] in <d7b2abb405ec4c97954549f0a02e4a41>:0
at Celeste.RunThread+<>c__DisplayClass1_0.<Start>b__0 () [0x00000] in <d7b2abb405ec4c97954549f0a02e4a41>:0
at System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart_Context (System.Object state) [0x00017] in <12b418a7818c4ca0893feeaaf67f1e7f>:0
at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.RunInternal (System.Threading.ExecutionContext executionContext, System.Threading.ContextCallback callback, System.Object state, System.Boolean preserveSyncCtx) [0x0008d] in <12b418a7818c4ca0893feeaaf67f1e7f>:0
at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run (System.Threading.ExecutionContext executionContext, System.Threading.ContextCallback callback, System.Object state, System.Boolean preserveSyncCtx) [0x00000] in <12b418a7818c4ca0893feeaaf67f1e7f>:0
at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run (System.Threading.ExecutionContext executionContext, System.Threading.ContextCallback callback, System.Object state) [0x00031] in <12b418a7818c4ca0893feeaaf67f1e7f>:0
at System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart () [0x0000b] in <12b418a7818c4ca0893feeaaf67f1e7f>:0
=================================================================
Native Crash Reporting
Got a SIGSEGV while executing native code. This usually indicates
a fatal error in the mono runtime or one of the native libraries
used by your application.
=================================================================
Native stacktrace:
napkin@napkin-piracy:~/Documents/celeste$ `
copper bane
manic tinsel
uhhh
everything’s all messed up now
I have no idea why FMOD is gone
perhaps we missed a step somewhere
copper bane
it worked before so i probably fucked up
somewhere
it was 5am so it was expected but like still bad
manic tinsel
because i don’t have a clear idea of what you did and didn’t do
copper bane
wait do i have to wipe my linux or do we continue from here
manic tinsel
so troubleshooting will be hell
you can nuke all folders in Documents
redownload Celeste from itch
and we will be once again
manic tinsel
NOOOO
manic tinsel
unzip it in documents like last time
open your terminal in documents
git clone https://github.com/pixelomer/Celeste-ARM64
cd Celeste-ARM64
./patch.sh ../celeste/Celeste.exe
(assuming the name of the Celeste folder is celeste like last time)
manic tinsel
go back into your celeste folder and open the file called Celeste in KWrite
replace its text with
#!/usr/bin/env bash
LD_LIBRARY_PATH="$(pwd)/lib-arm64" mono Celeste.exe
copy the lib-arm64 folder and back it up somewhere safe
and then use your PC to make a backup of all of this
preferably by using a cloning utility to clone the SD card but zipping and uploading to Google Drive might work too
upper hound
the cloning utility makes an image of your entire sd card to a file
which you can also use to restore from
it's like taking a snapshot of your sd card that you can revert
manic tinsel
you know how to use cd now, right?
I’ll give a formal explanation if not
~ refers to your home directory, /home/napkin
. refers to the directory you’re currently in
and .. refers to one directory up from the one you’re in
so, to go back to Documents from Documents/Celeste-ARM64, you would type cd ..
do that now
manic tinsel
yippee
we’re going to get the Everest code again now
git clone https://github.com/EverestAPI/Everest
and then cd Everest to go into the newly created folder
copper bane
manic tinsel
so DaNike said we should try building the MonoMod component of Everest on its own as a test
upper hound
mm is in external/MonoMod
manic tinsel
so type in cd external/MonoMod
upper hound
`git clone https://github.com/EverestAPI/Everest`
... --recursive.
manic tinsel
GAAAHHHHH
upper hound
or git submodule update --init --recursive atp
manic tinsel
I forgor
updated order of commands
git clone https://github.com/EverestAPI/Everest
cd Everest
then
git submodule update --init --recursive
then cd external/MonoMod
upper hound
-# or --recurse if --recursive complains that it doesn't exist
copper bane
i dont think its complaining
copper bane
then `cd external/MonoMod`
im here
upper hound
okay cus i remember one command complaining
now dotnet build if you have the .net 9 sdk installed
and mono and everything else
upper hound
i dont think they installed the sdk or mono at all
manic tinsel
no they have mono
copper bane
upper hound
oh lol
manic tinsel
I’m going to pass away
upper hound
you need a newer sdk
copper bane
no they have mono
oh i forgot my discord pronouns thing is who made my pfp (which is outdated, i made this one myself for halloween, it's not my normal pfp), i'm a male man he him btw
upper hound
alright
copper bane
anyway
manic tinsel
we will have to use the install script.
copper bane
is that bad
manic tinsel
It ticks me off is all
you’ve probably learned a lot
so can you remove dotnet-sdk-9.0 with apt?
copper bane
sudo apt-get remove dotnet-sdk-9.0?
copper bane
IM SMART
manic tinsel
Go to your downloads or wherever you see fit
upper hound
i think you can just apt without apt-get but shh
manic tinsel
and then curl -F https://dot.net/v1/dotnet-install.sh --output dotnet-install.sh
copper bane
whats curl
copper bane
nice
upper hound
see URL
copper bane
and then `curl -F https://dot.net/v1/dotnet-install.sh --output dotnet-install.s...
illegal computer runes 💔
manic tinsel
is -F not follow redirects
upper hound
mmm delicious discord
upper hound
is -F not follow redirects
you mean -L
upper hound
also imo
||```bash
curl -Lo dotnet-install.sh https://dot.net/v1/dotnet-install.sh
shhhhhhh
upper hound
id probably put this in ~
copper bane
-# 
im so hungry rn im starving
manic tinsel
but if not maybe listen to snip 😭
copper bane
-# also it's done
upper hound
id --help first if that works
copper bane
fancy
manic tinsel
where +x means add execute permission
upper hound
744 my beloved
manic tinsel
id --help first if that works
i read the microsoft article 
upper hound
i read the microsoft article <:3dgrineline:926270016301707364>
i didn't
manic tinsel
-# 
copper bane
is this good
manic tinsel
wait one second
upper hound
is this good
yeah
manic tinsel
it says you can ./dotnet-install.sh --channel LTS so I'm assuming all args are optional
upper hound
yeah
if you ls -l dotnet-install.sh the beginning of the line should have -rwxr--r--
or at least start with -rwx
copper bane
so i run that?
manic tinsel
the first - means no special permissions
the next three mean your permissions: rwx means you can read, write and execute
the next three mean permissions in your user group: rwx means everyone else in your user group can also read write and execute
the next three mean permissions for everyone else: r-x means everyone else in your user group can read and execute, but they can't edit the file
upper hound
the permissions in octal are 775
copper bane
well
some of it atleast
manic tinsel
anyways you can ./dotnet-install.sh now i think
manic tinsel
what version does it install? does it say?
copper bane
copper bane
what do i run then
manic tinsel
./dotnet-install.sh --version 9.0.300
or something
busy applying for college today, please ping + expect slow responses
manic tinsel
well, you have said you're a teenager
manic tinsel
anyways, try that command
copper bane
upper hound
you'll need to add the dotnet executable to PATH
manic tinsel
doe sit not do that automatically
upper hound
here it says its only in the current process path if we're sourcing the script, which we're not
copper bane
manic tinsel
balls
copper bane
manic tinsel
to list the files within a directory use ls
upper hound
whenever we ask you to see what's inside a directory we imply that you run ls on it
copper bane
gotcha
copper bane
upper hound
and -l will show extra info like permissions
ok so the sdks are there
uhh
export DOTNET_HOME=$HOME/.dotnet i think
then try dotnet --info again
you're on kde right
isnt there a screenshot tool
no wait you're on gnome because ubuntu
copper bane
isnt there a screenshot tool
yeah but i have to pull up the keyboard then press print screen and i'd rather use the camera
i don't even have print screen on this keyboard i think
copper bane
what
copper bane
then try dotnet --info again
upper hound
its xubuntu nvm
ok dont mind me https://aka.ms/dotnet/sdk-not-found
ok this is kinda useless
ah i got the envvar wrong
export DOTNET_ROOT=$DOTNET_HOME
export DOTNET_HOME=
this will rename the DOTNET_HOME envvar to DOTNET_ROOT
@copper bane
copper bane
i run those 2 commands?
copper bane
it is
upper hound
what if export DOTNET_ROOT="$DOTNET_ROOT/" and then the list-sdks command
you can up arrow to rerun commands in your history
copper bane
copper bane
whar
upper hound
if you echo $PATH do you see dotnet in here
copper bane
yes
upper hound
what is in there
copper bane
upper hound
oh lmao
it included the tools folder but not $DOTNET_HOME
so
export DOTNET_ROOT="$HOME/.dotnet"
export PATH="$PATH:$DOTNET_ROOT"
upper hound
ok now dotnet --list-sdks
upper hound
what is in ls $DOTNET_ROOT
copper bane
copper bane
mystic umbra
what does which dotnet output
copper bane
upper hound
ok close enough i think
mystic umbra
do /home/napkin/.dotnet/dotnet --list-sdks
copper bane
mystic umbra
well there we go
upper hound
ok so it's using the wrong dotnet 
i had a feeling
why wouldn't it be reading the $DOTNET_ROOT tho
mystic umbra
your dotnet setup is immensely cursed and messed up so i dont think i would even try to fix it at this point lmao
mystic umbra
why wouldn't it be reading the $DOTNET_ROOT tho
that only matters for the default apphost i believe
dotnet just does not care about that env var
upper hound
d
mystic umbra
(/usr/share/d does not exist on my filesystem)
upper hound
ik
mystic umbra
so yeah probably just use /home/napkin/.dotnet/dotnet from now on
mystic umbra
yeah but if they ever restart the terminal session that will be gone and the next person helping will be incredibly confused
copper bane
upper hound
bashrc
anyways uh yeah
i installed it from scratch and it works
oh it actually shows the env var when running --info
til
upper hound
yeah but if they ever restart the terminal session that will be gone and the nex...
also does export envvar= remove the envvar
or do i have to unset
copper bane
manic tinsel
what the fuck
well.
/home/napkin/.dotnet/dotnet build then
jank
ping @copper bane?
copper bane
sorry for the wait i almost made my air fryer explode
i also showered
my air fryer is literally melting pls help
copper bane
please don’t set your house on fire
aside from the potential fire threat against my house, the command worked
manic tinsel
waoh
let's wait
yellow is warning, so its OK
red is error, which means something went wrong
upper hound
you can ignore yellows since you're just a user
upper hound
send the error
copper bane
copper bane
manic tinsel
@muted egret help...
copper bane
how do that
muted egret
easiest would probably be to rsync it off the device then upload
but pick any method
manic tinsel
where is it generated?
upper hound
this server supports up to 100 mb file uploads btw
muted egret
where is it generated?
root monomod source dir
manic tinsel
so just in whatever/MonoMod
muted egret
ye
manic tinsel
@copper bane open up your file browser to Documents/Everest/external/MonoMod
and find a file named msbuild.binlog
manic tinsel
I don't do these kinda things with dotnet either so this is a learning experience for me as well
muted egret
alright gimme a mo to look at it
copper bane
me?
upper hound
no, i'm asking danike
copper bane
oh sorry
muted egret
nah msbuildlog.com
manic tinsel
we're getting into territory where this is starting to become magical runes for me
danike the higher power has come to aid us in our time of need
upper hound
nah msbuildlog.com
interesting
copper bane
we're getting into territory where this is starting to become magical runes for ...
this has always been magical runes for me this entire time 💔
but like extremely shocking how so many people have come to help with this
this is starting to become a fully fledged project atp
manic tinsel
this has always been magical runes for me this entire time 💔
not exactly
after we finish this you'll be able to use linux on your own
you could install linux on your main computer and you'd understand how to do several things
manic tinsel
we'll get there when we finish these shenanigans
copper bane
gotcha
upper hound
hm
copper bane
oh god i have school tomorrow it wil be 10x harder to be here to run commands on the funny console
unless i don't go
somehow
manic tinsel
do not skip school for the nintendo switch modding session.
I also have school so I won't be around
upper hound
so this command is failing
/home/napkin/.nuget/packages/vezel.zig.toolsets.linux-arm64/0.14.1.1/tools/zig cc -target aarch64-linux-none -c -o /home/napkin/Documents/Everest/external/MonoMod/artifacts/obj/MonoMod.Core/debug_net5.0/arm64/linux/exhelper_linux_macos_arm64.S.o /home/napkin/Documents/Everest/external/MonoMod/src/MonoMod.Core/Platforms/Architectures/arm64/exhelper_linux_macos_arm64.S -g -O1
muted egret
yep
the question is why
seems like the build for net5 is failing with an exec error first, that's corrupting the zig cache, and that's causing all the others to fail
upper hound
is aarch64-linux-none a valid compilation target
muted egret
so this command is failing
`/home/napkin/.nuget/packages/vezel.zig.toolsets.lin...
@copper bane can you try running this command manually
copper bane
in a bit
copper bane
auusahghgrahg i have way too many downloads my internet is dying
upper hound
why does everest build monomod itself
i think we just never switched to the nuget package but im not sure @mystic umbra
muted egret
is there anything actually new in patcher
mystic umbra
there was a bugfix from popax that we rely on
muted egret
i see
mystic umbra
the latest nuget pkg is too old for us
i havent checked if any releases were made in a while, but that used to be the case at least
muted egret
i mean i don't push nuget packages for patcher ever, so i'm not surprised
mystic umbra
yeah
manic tinsel
LMAO
upper hound
so just rm -r that folder
copper bane
rm -r ~/.cache/zig?
muted egret
rm doesn't give output except in error cases
manic tinsel
yeah press up arrow twice
copper bane
same
manic tinsel
still says CacheCheckFailed?
muted egret
export ZIG_GLOBAL_CACHE_DIR="$(pwd)/artifacts/zig-cache"
export ZIG_LOCAL_CACHE_DIR="$ZIG_GLOBAL_CACHE_DIR"
and try again
manic tinsel
this is so jank 😭
muted egret
does artifacts/zig-cache exist?
manic tinsel
(MonoMod/artifacts/zig-cache)
muted egret
all is relative to cwd, which is the monomod source root
copper bane
does `artifacts/zig-cache` exist?
yurs
muted egret
what's in it?
muted egret
and to be clear, you're seeing CacheCheckFailed, not an EXEC error?
copper bane
muted egret
very cool names zig
copper bane
and to be clear, you're seeing `CacheCheckFailed`, not an `EXEC` error?
error: CacheCheckFailed
manic tinsel
me on a saturday afternoon
upper hound
`error: CacheCheckFailed`
well they said "same thing"
muted egret
and if you delete that new zig-cache, then retry, you still get the same thing?
copper bane
oh
manic tinsel
theory: this error is hiding another much more sinister error!!
uh
yeah genuinely what is going on
copper bane
upper hound
manic tinsel
copper bane
chat are we cooked
muted egret
i mean it can clearly write to the cache dir now though
muted egret
possibly silly idea
what does /home/napkin/.nuget/packages/vezel.zig.toolsets.linux-arm64/0.14.1.1/tools/zig cc --help give you
copper bane
oh that is way too long
muted egret
ok that's expected
manic tinsel
zig arch is correct then
muted egret
echo "#include<stdio.h>\nint main(){printf(\"test\\n\");return 0;}" > test.c
/home/napkin/.nuget/packages/vezel.zig.toolsets.linux-arm64/0.14.1.1/tools/zig cc test.c -o ./test
./test
lmao
upper hound
this should output test
manic tinsel
cd to a different place before you try this ^^
upper hound
also might be worth it to check if ~/.local/share/zig exists
copper bane
```sh
echo "#include<stdio.h>\nint main(){printf(\"test\\n\");return 0;}" > test...
is this whole command a single line or are they separated
upper hound
it's 3 lines
muted egret
you can put && between them if you like
upper hound
they don't know what && does
copper bane
upper hound
so just run them line by line
copper bane
manic tinsel
what!!
upper hound
muted egret
that's something at least
manic tinsel
in general? probably
idk if we can use it as a drop-in replacement here though
muted egret
we cannot
cross-compilation with gcc is kinda hell
@copper bane what does sudo coredumpctl list give you
manic tinsel
-# here we go!!
manic tinsel
😭 ubuntu
copper bane
was i supposed to run it in monomod folder?
muted egret
isn't ubuntu a full systemd distro?
muted egret
`sudo: coredumpctl: command not found`
what does sudo sysctl kernel.core_pattern give
muted egret
https://github.com/ziglang/zig/issues/16585 related?
we're on (and targeting) arm64 though, not arm32
upper hound
ah
muted egret
i believe arm64 mandates hardware float
manic tinsel
this is so far out of my league
upper hound
oh wait the invalid instruction is in the executable, not zig cc
manic tinsel
I don't know if I have anything to contribute here unfortunately
copper bane
muted egret
oh wait the invalid instruction is in the executable, not zig cc
no its in zig cc
muted egret
ubuntuuuuuu
upper hound
the issue says it's in the target exec
muted egret
what the fuck is apport
manic tinsel
kde moment
manic tinsel
I remember this
upper hound
set ulimit -c unlimited
then run the compiler again and get the error again
the core dump should be in /var/lib/apport/coredump/...
muted egret
while you're at it do sudo sysctl -w kernel.core_pattern=core
way easier to work with that way
I hate that everything tries to jack coredumps
upper hound
i think you can just disable apport
not sure if this'll undo the core pattern change
copper bane
then run the compiler again and get the error again
what command is that again
upper hound
/home/napkin/.nuget/packages/vezel.zig.toolsets.linux-arm64/0.14.1.1/tools/zig cc test.c -o ./test
copper bane
muted egret
now is there a core file in your current directory
upper hound
i think you can just send that here?
muted egret
send it here
copper bane
muted egret
yes
that's what we do during build
works on macos-arm64, and windows- and linux- x64
muted egret
i mean, can hack the build system a touch to use a prebuilt one
but i would like to know why this is failing
upper hound
yeah obviously
muted egret
it's probably an issue in zig
upper hound
think so too
muted egret
might just patch everest to pull mm.core/mm.runtimedetour from nuget as a real solution here
argh is the coredump not a full memory dump
manic tinsel
@copper bane translation: there is likely a bug in zig that prevents it from building exhelper on your system. snip will build it for you and send it over discord
what does exhelper even do though
muted egret
how in the weeds do you want for an answer
copper bane
<@1158399272178425908> translation: there is likely a bug in zig that prevents i...
tyty lmfao
angel my goat translator 💛
upper hound
well tbh id like to know what mm does behind the scenes too
manic tinsel
I'm not sure what your answer would constitute so give it your best shot lol
oh that's readable
cool 👍
upper hound
so it lets unmanaged exceptions be handled in .net?
muted egret
it lets them be propagated
upper hound
right
it says that
so this means we can get a AccessViolationException from unmanaged code, right
if we get a segfault
muted egret
we need it for the jit hooks, because the jit uses native exceptions to tell the vm about some compilation errors
upper hound
ah
muted egret
and, as described, normally the unwinder can't unwind through managed code, so we use the exception helper to let us do that manually
for macos-arm64, the shared library also implements the core memory protection bullshit necessary for MAP_JIT handling
upper hound
we need it for the jit hooks, because the jit uses native exceptions to tell the...
oh wait so that's for recompiling the methods?
i don't fully understand what mm does behind the scenes other than the fact it hooks the jit to do its magic
muted egret
its so we know when the runtime recompiles methods so we can keep hooks on them
upper hound
i see
manic tinsel
DaNike are you going to report this to the zig people?
if it turns out to be a zig bug as inferred
muted egret
DaNike are you going to report this to the zig people?
once i figure out what's actually happening, yes
@copper bane can you do echo 0x1f > /proc/self/coredump_filter, run the compiler again, then send the new coredump
copper bane
what was the compiler
manic tinsel
big zig command
/home/napkin/.nuget/packages/vezel.zig.toolsets.linux-arm64/0.14.1.1/tools/zig cc test.c -o ./test
zig can act as a drop-in compiler for C, where compiler basically means "translator to machine code"
compile is also synonymous with build in this context
copper bane
muted egret
that's more the size i was expecting
also i have no idea if this is actually the same issue as seen trying to compile exhelper
just that it is an issue
@manic tinsel think you can get everest to use packages for runtimedetour and co?
manic tinsel
what is a co
and you should be asking snip that question, they're an actual dev, while I just have Linux and C# experience
muted egret
fair enough
upper hound
uhh let me see
do we need anything from the submodule, i'm not that experienced with mm stuff
muted egret
well you said you need up-to-date patcher ye?
upper hound
wartori did
muted egret
ah
well presumably that is necessary then
but utils+core+runtimedetour should probably come through packages
upper hound
okay seems like this is just a bunch of refs
mystic umbra
yes you could use the nuget pkgs for anything other than patcher and hookgen
mystic umbra
which patch
upper hound
popax' one
mystic umbra
yeah it was merged on 2022 or something
upper hound
okay so we're up to date with the mm repo? no divergent commits?
mystic umbra
yeah
muted egret
@copper bane can you give me a xxd /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/regs/identification/*
muted egret
latest ver will work right
should do
copper bane
<@1158399272178425908> can you give me a `xxd /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/regs/...
xxd: /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/regs/identification/revidr_el1: Permission denied
muted egret
slap a sudo out front then
copper bane
muted egret
really??
copper bane
why sudo no work
upper hound
i'll try installing to make sure it runs
seems to patch
aaaand it dies
Ver 1.4.0.0-fna [Everest: 0-dev]
11/02/2025 23:13:54
System.IO.FileNotFoundException: Could not load file or assembly 'MonoMod.Core, Version=1.3.2.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null'. The system cannot find the file specified.
File name: 'MonoMod.Core, Version=1.3.2.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null'
at MonoMod.RuntimeDetour.Hook..ctor(MethodBase source, MethodInfo target, DetourConfig config, Boolean applyByDefault)
at MonoMod.RuntimeDetour.Hook..ctor(MethodBase source, MethodInfo target, DetourConfig config)
at MonoMod.RuntimeDetour.Hook..ctor(MethodBase source, MethodInfo target)
at Celeste.Mod.Helpers.LegacyMonoMod.LegacyDynamicDataCompatHooks.InstallHook() in Celeste.Mod.mm/Mod/Helpers/LegacyMonoMod/DynamicData.cs:line 18
at Celeste.Mod.Helpers.LegacyMonoMod.LegacyMonoModCompatLayer.Initialize() in Celeste.Mod.mm/Mod/Helpers/LegacyMonoMod/Misc.cs:line 19
at Celeste.Mod.Everest.Boot() in Celeste.Mod.mm/Mod/Everest/Everest.cs:line 426
at Celeste.Celeste..ctor() in Celeste.Mod.mm/Patches/Celeste.cs:line 312
at Celeste.Celeste.orig_Main(String[] args)
:(
manic tinsel
dear god
upper hound
hold on it didn't copy the core dll i think
muted egret
why sudo no work
because i'm a bit stupid
try find /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/regs/identification -type f -print -exec sudo xxd {} \;
upper hound
fixed it
copper bane
upper hound
ok so i got it to compile, patch and run
but it still compiles core i noticed
should i be worried
muted egret
yes i think so
upper hound
i guess i could make the submodule reuse latest mm packages?
niiiiiiiiiice
ok lets patch
works and runs it seems
you have git there right
manic tinsel
yes he has git
banger
snip you're our saviour
thank you danike as well for diving into the kernel mines
muted egret
ok this might be a bit much, but i want to know anyway
down at the bottom, there's a little c program
i want you to compile it with the system compuler and run it
manic tinsel
hm.
here is the code packaged into a neat little c file
download this, and in the same folder, run the terminal command gcc test-feature-registers.c -o test-feature-registers
this will make the code into system code for your cpu to read
next you'll type ./test-feature-registers to test it out
@copper bane this is your task
upper hound
here's the patch files; put the everest one in ~/Documents/Everest and the monomod one in ~/Documents/Everest/external/MonoMod
then to apply the patches
cd ~/Documents/Everest
git am everest-packagereference.patch
cd external/MonoMod
git am monomod-packagereference.patch
manic tinsel
copper bane
is that good or bad
manic tinsel
this program is intended to help uncover the mysteries of your cpu
the switch said "no"
copper bane
nintendo doesnt want us to dwelve in
muted egret
that's actually what i expected tbh
copper bane
😔
muted egret
this is good though
this is an actionable issue in zig
@copper bane what's your kernel version (run uname -a)
copper bane
Linux napkin-piracy 4.9.140-l4t #5 SMP PREEMPT Thu Sep 26 11:18:43 EDT 2024 aarch64 aarch64 aarch64 GNU/Linux
manic tinsel
@copper bane how did you install Linux again?
copper bane
<@1158399272178425908> how did you install Linux again?
switchroot
muted egret
per https://github.com/ziglang/zig/issues/21097#issuecomment-2302207949 zig only tries to support 4.19+
manic tinsel
ah.
manic tinsel
`Linux napkin-piracy 4.9.140-l4t #5 SMP PREEMPT Thu Sep 26 11:18:43 EDT 2024 aar...
ts does not say 5.1.2
copper bane
💔
manic tinsel
I mean theoretically you can just apt dist upgrade
upper hound
we can just apt dist-upgrade right
manic tinsel
..right?
copper bane
oh wait is that why it sometimes says to reset the system to update???
manic tinsel
no
KDE wants you to reboot every time you run apt-get upgrade iirc
but that's not completely necessary
copper bane
permission denied, sudo?
copper bane
so sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
manic tinsel
yes
copper bane
gotcha
manic tinsel
per https://github.com/ziglang/zig/issues/21097#issuecomment-2302207949 zig only...
that was a very very long goose chase
I'm sorry for putting you through all that 😭
copper bane
then to apply the patches
```sh
cd ~/Documents/Everest
git am everest-packageref...
quick access
upper hound
ah
upper hound
did you run sudo apt update first
muted egret
does ubuntu let you compile and use your own kernel
manic tinsel
did you run `sudo apt update` first
I think it runs apt-get update automatically beforehand??
muted egret
it does not
copper bane
did you run `sudo apt update` first
no
upper hound
id do that
muted egret
that would be useful behavior
manic tinsel
apt-get update right
upper hound
also yeah what danike said, it does not run update first
muted egret
and thus is antithetical to apt
manic tinsel
-# 😭
copper bane
so, sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
manic tinsel
yes
copper bane
upper hound
what does which dotnet show
copper bane
nothing
upper hound
what if
export DOTNET_ROOT=$HOME/.dotnet
export PATH="$PATH:$DOTNET_ROOT:$DOTNET_ROOT/tools"
and then which dotnet
copper bane
/home/napkin/.dotnet/dotnet
manic tinsel
but no kernel upgrade
upper hound
yeah
mystic umbra
<@542000557443776523> fixed the dotnet situation
awesome
mystic umbra
ive been ftl-ing really hard
upper hound
have you been swimming in bytes
mystic umbra
this pr will be quite silly
upper hound
i saw
copper bane
copper bane
i'll put my email just to be safe
uuuhhh how do i do that again
upper hound
the command tells you
copper bane
oh
muted egret
could also use git apply instead of am
copper bane
upper hound
no errors though, right
upper hound
fuck yes
copper bane
manic tinsel
now you dotnet run Celeste.dll
-# and we see the one thousand libs we're missing
upper hound
ok so
cp -r MiniInstaller/bin/Release/net8.0/publish/ ~/Documents/celeste
cp -r Celeste.Mod.mm/bin/Release/net8.0/publish/ ~/Documents/celeste
assuming thats where your celeste is
manic tinsel
yes that is correct
these commands copy MiniInstaller and the other mod libs to your celeste folder
upper hound
then
cd ~/Documents/celeste
dotnet run MiniInstaller.dll
first
you need the files to be in the celeste folder, right
manic tinsel
just follow Snip's lead
copper bane
copper bane
