key presses stacking up | Mt. Celeste Climbing Association | Page 1

rustic oar Sep 3, 2025, 5:31 PM

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does someone know whats happening here? it's like the keys i press are for a specific time (maybe like 5 frames or something, so when this happens i cant 1f tap) and then they stack up, i can fix the key press time with an everest option (in an everest-env.txt file i put EVEREST_NEW_KEYBOARD_INPUT=1) but they still stack up even when using that
this only happens sometimes when i launch the game and i dont know whats causing it (it happens in both vanilla and everest (even without mods, though because of the setting above i can 1f tap while using everest), this clip is in vanilla)
i dont think its the keyboard since i have a wooting 80he and the key presses look okay on the input display (i'm using NohBoard)
i'm running windows 10 version 22H2

and computer specs if you need that:
cpu: intel i9-10900k
gpu: rtx 3090
64 gb ram

marsh field Sep 3, 2025, 5:48 PM

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i would try a different keyboard regardless

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it feels like something your keyboard driver would do or fna itself

rustic oar Sep 3, 2025, 5:53 PM

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seems to still be happening with another keyboard i have

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im testing in everest with mods rn

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oh i should say i'm on this beta in steam

marsh field Sep 3, 2025, 5:56 PM

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rustic oar oh i should say i'm on this beta in steam

i would switch to opengl

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iirc theres some slight differences

rustic oar Sep 3, 2025, 5:57 PM

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i think i tried that a while ago but i'll see again

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yeah still happens

marsh field Sep 3, 2025, 5:59 PM

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is this celeste only

rustic oar Sep 3, 2025, 6:00 PM

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i think so

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it's hard to know for sure since celeste is the only game i really know with all these buttons

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i could try hollow knight

marsh field Sep 3, 2025, 6:00 PM

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do you have any of the games from this list https://www.flibitijibibo.com/index.php?page=Portfolio/Tools#01_FNA.txt

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does the same issue happen there

rustic oar Sep 3, 2025, 6:01 PM

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i have terraria

marsh field Sep 3, 2025, 6:01 PM

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try it there then

rustic oar Sep 3, 2025, 6:04 PM

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doesn't look like it happens, i'm spamming movement keys, grapple, and hotbar slots and it looks fine

marsh field Sep 3, 2025, 6:07 PM

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can you go to the game files and try to compare the fna.dll versions between terraria and celeste

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as well as fna3d.dll and sdl2.dll if they exist in both games

rustic oar Sep 3, 2025, 6:08 PM

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okay

marsh field Sep 3, 2025, 6:08 PM

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just right click the dlls, go to properties and go to details, it should be there

rustic oar Sep 3, 2025, 6:11 PM

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for some reason fna.dll only appears in tmodloader

marsh field Sep 3, 2025, 6:12 PM

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...interesting

rustic oar Sep 3, 2025, 6:12 PM

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well i'll send the versions anyway and try testing there

marsh field Sep 3, 2025, 6:12 PM

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to be fair ive never seen anything like this so im as clueless as you

rustic oar Sep 3, 2025, 6:12 PM

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sob

marsh field Sep 3, 2025, 6:13 PM

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i guess in theory(??) i could make a mod to log what happens when polling events

rustic oar Sep 3, 2025, 6:13 PM

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this is for tmod

marsh field Sep 3, 2025, 6:13 PM

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@past kindle do you think this would help

rustic oar Sep 3, 2025, 6:14 PM

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i guess i only need to send the file version

marsh field Sep 3, 2025, 6:14 PM

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ok celeste uses 24.1.0.0

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..but wait thats weird, why is the one in orig 777kb but the one in the game folder is 2mb

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ig it's some patcher weirdness

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anyways

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when you ran vanilla, was everest installed

rustic oar Sep 3, 2025, 6:16 PM

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yeah

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i just pressed celeste in olympus

marsh field Sep 3, 2025, 6:16 PM

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what if you uninstall everest and verify game files

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this won't touch any save data

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i just want to make sure that it's not some fna thing

rustic oar Sep 3, 2025, 6:16 PM

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will my mods still be there

marsh field Sep 3, 2025, 6:16 PM

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yes

rustic oar Sep 3, 2025, 6:16 PM

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ok ill try

marsh field Sep 3, 2025, 6:17 PM

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if you're still unsure you can make a backup

rustic oar Sep 3, 2025, 6:19 PM

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huh still happens

marsh field Sep 3, 2025, 6:19 PM

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so it's not a fna version thing

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what fna version does vanilla ship with then

rustic oar Sep 3, 2025, 6:20 PM

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it shows 21.3.5.0 for FNA.dll in the celeste folder

marsh field Sep 3, 2025, 6:20 PM

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sounds about right with when 1.4.0.0 released

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what about sdl2

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everest uses 2.28.5.0

rustic oar Sep 3, 2025, 6:21 PM

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2.0.14.0

marsh field Sep 3, 2025, 6:22 PM

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well since even vanilla has this then i guess it's something related to celeste but i have no idea what could be doing that

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i would suggest driver updates but i genuinely don't know

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i guess a hook on pollevents it is

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you can reinstall everest

rustic oar Sep 3, 2025, 6:24 PM

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okay

rustic oar Sep 3, 2025, 6:24 PM

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marsh field i would suggest driver updates but i genuinely don't know

i'll see if theres any available

marsh field Sep 3, 2025, 6:35 PM

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hopefully this everest build im making to test this will work out of the box but i doubt it

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if not then ig ill make a mod

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it installed??? let me see

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ah it installed because it did nothing wholestare

rustic oar Sep 3, 2025, 6:39 PM

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idk whats going on 😭 i restarted to install a windows update and its fine
maybe?? it happens when i have my computer on for too long because i think this is how it was before

marsh field Sep 3, 2025, 6:39 PM

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weird as hell

marsh field Sep 4, 2025, 12:14 AM

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rustic oar does someone know whats happening here? it's like the keys i press are for a spe...

alright when this happens again, can you install this mod, replicate this effect while it's on and send me your log.txt?

📎 LogSdlEvents.zip

rustic oar Sep 4, 2025, 12:15 AM

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alright

marsh field Sep 4, 2025, 12:18 AM

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this probably won't tell you much but here's the code and what it does

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this will basically send a message to log.txt after sdl2 receives an event (which can be a key press/release, mouse movement, mouse button press/release, window minimize/maximize/restore etc)

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i want to see what's going on

spare ore Sep 5, 2025, 6:50 PM

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I scared to saying here with 0 knowledge but hope this helps
me and a friend had the same problem that inputs are stacking, and it fixed by disable IME when playing celeste

marsh field Sep 5, 2025, 6:51 PM

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spare ore I scared to saying here with 0 knowledge but hope this helps me and a friend had...

..i should've asked about that

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@rustic oar do you use an ime

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(chinese/japanese/korean keyboard input method)

rustic oar Sep 5, 2025, 6:53 PM

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oh wait i do sometimes

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that could totally be it

marsh field Sep 5, 2025, 6:54 PM

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yeah turn it off when using celeste

rustic oar Sep 5, 2025, 6:54 PM

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ohh ok

marsh field Sep 5, 2025, 6:54 PM

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i saw some cases of input delay when using an ime

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but i didnt expect that

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thats why i didnt ask about this at first

rustic oar Sep 5, 2025, 6:55 PM

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yeah omg that was it

marsh field Sep 5, 2025, 6:55 PM

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snip_plush

rustic oar Sep 5, 2025, 6:55 PM

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if im on the japanese keyboard thing the issue happens

spare ore Sep 5, 2025, 6:55 PM

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maddyhug

marsh field Sep 5, 2025, 6:55 PM

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yeah i never saw this before

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thank you so much

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