Huge screen transition lag | Mt. Celeste Climbing Association | Page 1

signal veldt Oct 26, 2024, 1:32 PM

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I've recently started experiencing huge lag on every screen transition. When I updated to the latest beta branch of Everest, the issue disappeared but a few days ago it started happening again. I've tried disabling as many mods as I can but it does not make a difference. Is this a known issue? And does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this? Any help is greatly appreciated as Celeste is simply unplayable like this.

Disabling Everest does fix this but I would like to be able to use mods.

(I posted this first in #gameplay_help but someone told me I should post here instead)

frozen gulch Oct 26, 2024, 1:36 PM

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does restarting your pc help in any way?

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or try enabling frosthelper's disable gc on transition

signal veldt Oct 26, 2024, 1:37 PM

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I have already restarted multiple times, without effect

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I can try enabling the frosthelper thing

frozen gulch Oct 26, 2024, 1:37 PM

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every room transition triggers a c# garbage collection which is a primary cause for lag

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garbage collection in simple terms is "cleaning up unused objects"

signal veldt Oct 26, 2024, 1:39 PM

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This one?

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Enabling that seems to work

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Thanks!

frozen gulch Oct 26, 2024, 1:41 PM

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hmmmm

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what could cause the gc to lag so much though

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@lyric walrus resident frosthelper expert
can GC.Collect really cause such bad lagspikes???

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@signal veldt what are your specs

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also i should warn you that turning this on will make you more susceptible to mid-game lagspikes

signal veldt Oct 26, 2024, 1:48 PM

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frozen gulch <@643470516669382676> what are your specs

Windows 11, my cpu is Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-1035G1 CPU @ 1.00GHz 1.19 GHz

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I've also been experiencing gpu issues recently, wouldn't be surprised if it's somehow related to that

frozen gulch Oct 26, 2024, 1:49 PM

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1ghz seems suspiciously low

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wait that's 1035???

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did you miss a digit

signal veldt Oct 26, 2024, 1:50 PM

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I copy-pasted it from my windows settings

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I'm playing on a 3-year old laptop btw

frozen gulch Oct 26, 2024, 1:50 PM

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that's a first generation intel processor

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what the hell

signal veldt Oct 26, 2024, 1:50 PM

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The sticker on my laptop says it's 10th gen

frozen gulch Oct 26, 2024, 1:51 PM

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or nvm that's 10th gen

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wow

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intel numbering scheme make sense challenge (impossible)

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seems about right

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interesting

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is your laptop plugged in while playing

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i know some laptops deliberately throttle down while unplugged to preserve battery life

signal veldt Oct 26, 2024, 1:55 PM

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It's plugged in

lyric walrus Oct 26, 2024, 2:44 PM

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frozen gulch <@331545936591323139> resident frosthelper expert can GC.Collect really cause su...

if you ram usage is really high, sure, since it forces the gc to try to collect long-lived objects that it normally would not care about.

frozen gulch Oct 26, 2024, 2:44 PM

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should the gc generation be changed

lyric walrus Oct 26, 2024, 2:45 PM

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and if that cpu is actually running at 1GHz...

white kayak Oct 26, 2024, 2:45 PM

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also, how many mods do you have enabled trollshiro

frozen gulch Oct 26, 2024, 2:45 PM

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base frequency is 1ghz which is like suspiciously low

white kayak Oct 26, 2024, 2:45 PM

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sounds about right for laptops tbh

frozen gulch Oct 26, 2024, 2:45 PM

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white kayak also, how many mods do you have enabled <:trollshiro:902180197216956426>

I've tried disabling as many mods as I can but it does not make a difference.

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though knowing what mods are enabled in the video would help @signal veldt

white kayak Oct 26, 2024, 2:46 PM

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well, if vanilla works but everest doesnt then something is goofing around here

signal veldt Oct 26, 2024, 2:52 PM

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frozen gulch though knowing what mods are enabled in the video would help <@64347051666938267...

This plus AhornMoveRoomTool

lyric walrus Oct 26, 2024, 2:52 PM

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are you using savestates?

signal veldt Oct 26, 2024, 2:52 PM

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No

lyric walrus Oct 26, 2024, 2:52 PM

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hmm, yea idk

signal veldt Oct 26, 2024, 2:53 PM

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The lag started happening after a CelesteTAS update but disabling that mod doesn't remove the lag so I'm guessing it's just a coincidence

white kayak Oct 26, 2024, 2:56 PM

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and is it as bad with no mods enabled at all?

lyric walrus Oct 26, 2024, 2:57 PM

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inb4 one of the mods has a memory leak baddyhueh

signal veldt Oct 26, 2024, 3:07 PM

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white kayak and is it as bad with *no* mods enabled at all?

Disabling all mods does fix it

frozen gulch Oct 26, 2024, 3:08 PM

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what if you enable just celestetas?

signal veldt Oct 26, 2024, 3:14 PM

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Hmm I enabled all my mods again and the lag is gone (even after disabling No Respawn GC)... I'm guessing it's going to show up randomly after a few days/weeks but for now I can't really help investigate

frozen gulch Oct 26, 2024, 3:21 PM

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hmm

white kayak Oct 26, 2024, 3:30 PM

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probably something was running in the bg

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likely a windows update

signal veldt Oct 26, 2024, 3:43 PM

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It would have been running for multiple days in a row and stop when I enabled the frosthelper setting

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Seems weird

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Maybe changing my enabled/disabled mods fixed it somehow? I had to enable frosthelper first before I could use the setting

white kayak Oct 26, 2024, 3:45 PM

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i mean, something mustve changed, and enabling and disabling something wont have any persistent marks

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i can only say that if it happens again try disabling mods and enabling/disabling that

waxen prairie Oct 26, 2024, 4:03 PM

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signal veldt The lag started happening after a CelesteTAS update but disabling that mod doesn...

Did you maybe update everest with the celestetas update (since the min version was recently bumped)

signal veldt Oct 26, 2024, 4:03 PM

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I don't believe so but it's been quite some time so I don't really remember

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I do always keep my everest updated though

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